Drinker's Chasers - UNBELIEVABLE Barbie Oscars Insult; World In Shock

[@Randomcorpse]

Feminists: "It's just a silly film, I can't believe men are threatened by this." Also Feminists: "HOW DID BARBIE NOT WIN BEST DOCUMENTARY?!?"

[@JoeyM10]

😂

[@ArcaneAnouki]

Schroedinger's feminist 😂

[@tjjordan4207]

They always out themselves.

[@seamusoneill5765]

I have honestly essentially had this conversation with feminists recently 😂

[@happybirthdaypaulie8584]

I’ve seen so many posts saying “No Oscar Nomination for Greta Gerwig. No Oscar Nomination for Margo Robbie. Ryan Gosling gets an Oscar Nomination. This is actually the whole plot of Barbie.” which conveniently omits the nominated supporting actress the same way the film conveniently omitted the female Mattel board members.

[@funkydiscogod]

It's like life imitates the art that imitates life.

[@Dc-alpha]

Here's the thing, that may be the intended plot of Barbie, it's not where it ended up. It's anti male and anti feminist at war. Neither is executed well.

[@titanicpat1275]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: The 'Feminist Lens' is really an Eye-Patch.

[@Pitazboras]

By the way, both Greta Gerwig and Margot Robbie _did_ get nominated. Robbie is a co-producer, so is nominated for Best Picture; and Gerwig is a co-writer, so is nominated for Best Adapted Screenplay.

[@venanziadorromatagni1641]

Neither does it seem to realise that the 5 people who WERE nominated for best actress were all - wait for it - women! Women, BTW, whose achievements are now somewhat ignored because movie journalists everywhere are too busy creating this nonsense disenfranchisement narrative to actually go and review their work! The same of course also goes for the 5 directors who were actually nominated. Also: Margo Robbie and Greta Gerwig were was not ‘snubbed’. Not getting an Oscar nomination is not a snub, it’s the default status for everyone who works in the movie industry. I’m really disappointed neither of them has come out yet to tell people to stop this discussion, and firmly point the spotlight at their nominated colleagues.

[@yung_wise5861]

She was so focused on making sure that Ken had his "patriarchy" arc that Ken ended up the only one with any arc at all. She literally caused this herself. She took an Oscar away from herself AND Margot for being a propagandist

[@patrickn.4113]

It is honestly very satisfying.

[@chrishernandez3699]

They're all up for Oscars, idk what you're talking about

[@yung_wise5861]

@@chrishernandez3699 the movie ITSELF is up for Oscars. Margot and Greta aren't. Look up "Barbie nominations" it says Ryan is the only individual actor being nominated for Barbie. Everyone else got skipped over

[@eggshelf]

So true, honestly would’ve thought that would be the point of the movie. Play Ken as a man living in a woman's world like the women in the men's world, use the reverse genders to prove a point about how one sided societies don't work. Then you're not directly calling out men and it can be subversive. Less backlash and more people understand the point.

[@8ligh7]

​@@chrishernandez3699It's good to pay attention before commenting

[@GeoffryGifari]

If there was a nomination for Barbie it should be "best marketing"

[@Lonovavir]

That marketing team worked like legends. I could sell ice to Eskimos if they were working for me.

[@OilFreeFeathers]

Marketing? It's Barbie. The brand already had draw power.

[@frankgesuele6298]

@@OilFreeFeathers So did GI Joe. But no Oscars or $1B.

[@penguinatedthings305]

Amen to that.

[@colin5577]

100% - Ive never seen anything like it. I'm delighted to say that I haven't seen it, but I went to the cinema whilst it was on (Mission Impossible) and the entire cinema looked like the epicentre of a pink bomb. Even the shops next door had Ken and Barbie themed cocktails, pizzas, pink foods etc and hundreds of pre teen girls and their Mums - many in cosplay (including the Mums) - were queueing to have their photos taken with a life-sized Barbie and Ken or against Barbie bluescreen. It was like an oestrogen apocalypse.

[@spacebase00]

ANATOMY OF A FALL is directed by, written by, and starring a woman. If these Barbie fans want to praise a film on THAT alone, they should do so with this. It's a masterpiece

[@metalsasquatch3410]

word

[@jdogg448]

Too many white people in it thats why.

[@jiggycalzone8585]

anatomy of a fall isnt cute pink and like omg. and they didnt see it

[@tylerjames805]

@@jiggycalzone8585Yeah might actually have to make them think for a couple of seconds can’t have that

[@zeked4200]

Yes, but does it blame men for all the problems of women? Is the female lead expected to take accountability for her actions? Is she expected to grow into her role as she learns about herself as a person...or is she an unstoppable girl boss right off the bat? If not, ewww! No thanks! More sparkles and pink please!

[@Trewq79]

In the sea of people upset that Barbie didn't get best director, I saw one person comment "I should watch the other current nominations and see. Maybe those films are really good". It was a refreshing half a second seeing such a fair and balanced take. Then the ocean of ragers took over again.

[@Erasureeraser]

I'm definitely one of those people. Yeah, I'm also a bit dissapointed by some snubs including Greta's Best Director nomination but I can't be angry at the Oscars until I see the other nominations that I haven't heard off yet. I still need to see Jonathan Glazer's The Zone Of Interest, I've only heard it weeks ago during the award season.

[@mojebi3804]

@@Erasureeraser Imagine still talking about and paying attention to the Oscars.

[@Matthew10950]

​@@ErasureeraserYou believe she deserves to be nominated for best director? I am not raging or judging, I am genuinely interested. I'm not picking a fight

[@Erasureeraser]

@@mojebi3804 So? Its that a problem? I don't always agree with the winners but nevertheless, it's just a lot of fun judging the award shows and do some predictions, because why the hell not? I'll still watch the Oscars whenever I liked, I don't give a shit if other people still care about the Oscars or not, that's your choice, not mine 🤷

[@Erasureeraser]

@@Matthew10950 Well duhh, with the beautiful world that she has created and a creative storytelling that she made, I think she deserves to be nominated for Best Director 🤷

[@julianne_warren]

I'm not invested enough in Barbie or Oscars, but the hysterical entitlement is funny.

[@derkeheath5172]

Both extremes are funny: the men who got upset about the movie AND the women who thought it was brave cinema. All of them manipulated by social media into thinking any of it ultimately mattered.

[@tkps]

What's also typical is Gosling bleating the other 2 should've got recognition too but no suggestion of refusing the nomination like some have suggested if he feels so strongly about it.

[@l_a_n_k_y]

Just wondering where all the nominations for Godzilla minus one were…

[@cokemaster3710]

well japan is only allowed to submit one movie for most categories and they chose to nominate the more safe oscary movie Perfect Days. Great movie btw, honestly a bit better than Godzilla, watch it if you get a chance

[@nont18411]

It got transferred to Napoleon and Indiana Jones Dial of Destiny

[@chasehedges6775]

@@nont18411 Screw those movies

[@richardspencer4328]

The woscars

[@l_a_n_k_y]

@@nont18411 you mean the dial of density?… or the dial of dysentery?… whatever you wanna call it lol.

[@adamheywood113]

I'd argue it's a snub that Gosling was nominated for Best _Supporting_ Actor when he's the male lead

[@chasehedges6775]

He should have won Best Actor in a leading role

[@Olebull93]

I remember Liam Neeson never got a Oscar for the lead role in Schindlers List. It was quite the outrage back in the day's. You know back when movies where actually good.

[@sooperd00p]

yea, I don't think the academy knows what a supporting actor actually is. I saw that when Denzel Washington won for Best Actor in Training Day. Obviously he was good in that movie and deserved an oscar, but he was not the main actor. Denzel's character was supporting the change that Ethan Hawk's character went trough from start to finish. The supporting actor doesn't go through a change or hero's journey.

[@emsnewssupkis6453]

You are correct, Adam. Yes, he was relegated to minor character when he is in nearly every scene and was a very active character upon whom the plot hinged entirely! The entire point was, Barbie would not love him he was forced to love her and she didn't care and was even repulsed by all this.

[@kdizzle901]

@@chasehedges6775no he should not have won over Paul Giamatti and Cillian Murphy

[@TheTraveler33]

The fact that barbie and an oscar are being spoken of seriously is enough to tell me just how bad the industry is.

[@tommyjames2448]

Agreed. Barbie is one of the 5 worst films I've ever seen in my life. My 6 year old daughter has created more coherent story boards for horror films she wants to make when she's older than the creators of the Barbie movie came up with.

[@TheTraveler33]

@@tommyjames2448 I wouldn't admit I watched if I were you. Lol. Peace!

[@lostalone9320]

Ironically, Barbie would not even be in the worst five movies to have won an oscar. Say what you will about Barbie, it was at least a successful film.

[@tommyjames2448]

@@TheTraveler33 I'm married and have a daughter. Of course I watched it...

[@peterc3262]

​@tommyjames2448 haha said as if all women had to watch it.

[@Draconisrex1]

Weirdly, the screaming hordes ignore that there are five women who were nominated that put in amazing performances, one of which massively elevated an otherwise mid-tier script. The movies that did get nods were amazing, not a watch-and-forget movie. They also ingore that there are a lot far better male directors who've been shut out of the Oscars for far better movies than the fluff Barbie Nostalgia Bait blockbuster.

[@bencarlson4300]

Which is the mid tier script?

[@Marshmallow_Trees]

Not good enough. It’s never good enough.

[@kytheres379]

@@Marshmallow_Treesyour username threw me off

[@gabrielchin4161]

​@@Marshmallow_Treesusername checks out👌

[@marychocolatefairy]

Yeah, both Ridley Scott and Ron Howard weren't nommed even though their films were- Gladiator and Apollo 13. I never heard any whining from them, and there was no uproar. And that was when just 5 films could be nominated. Now that there's 10, 5 directors HAVE to be "snubbed". Says a lot that Gerwig and her fans think it's all about her.

[@Guigley]

The funniest part of all this is that people still think the Oscars matter.

[@trentwilliams1941]

Nobody thinks the Oscar's matter like that. But money does talk, and barbies billion and a half dollar take shows a lot of people are lying about their take on this film. I refuse to believe all the girls paid to see this 5 times.......

[@uniquerebeljaney3639]

The Return of the King was the last Oscar winning movie I watched. They always pick the most pretentious and boring movies and I'm not interested.

[@finkamain1621]

@@uniquerebeljaney3639 It's quite literally about diversity hires now. If a movie isn't diverse enough or doesn't fill their quota, it won't be qualified for an Oscar

[@newtpondskipper]

When everyone who watched the movie talked about Ken. When no one talked about how amazing barbie was. When almost everyone I talked to said Ken was the hero of the story... maybe there's a reason he was nominated and she wasn't?

[@fredfredburger5150]

That and Margo Robbie being an absolutely mid actress.

[@newtpondskipper]

@@fredfredburger5150 that goes without saying.

[@TheScarletSlayer]

Wait....margo robbie was in this? I just remember Ken being Kenough.

[@newtpondskipper]

@@TheScarletSlayer she was the villain.

[@risinbison1106]

Barbie being in the same category as Oppenheimer should tell you what the Oscars have become.

[@kirigi100]

Well said.

[@adrianapostol126]

I couldn't finish Barbie, that good of a movie I think it is.. and I've watched until the end frickin Twilight 🙄

[@risinbison1106]

@@adrianapostol126 hahahaha….i didn’t make it all the way through Twilight. Only reason I sat through Barbie was because I took my niece and her friends, I was in my phone most of it.

[@noremorse4379]

Oppenheimer was more fictional than Barbie lol, no mention of anything to do with the British research that was stolen

[@lance134679]

"Godzilla is a better supporting actress than America Ferrera" - Little Platoon.

[@deltavagen9796]

Barbie even nominated at the Oscars is the saddest Thing about this

[@maxsommers6843]

I feel the same. I even disagree with some of the "panel" here re. the production/set/costume design was worthy - it just looked like a less visually interesting version of Fergie's 'M.I.L.F. $' video from a few years ago.

[@laurenelizabeth2505]

Truth.

[@ephraimwinslow]

Every year I have the same moment. Someone mentions the Oscars (as though they matter) and I go: "WHO still cares about the Oscars??? The academy is an industry insiders club in the SLIMIEST industry on this planet. The academy's members *freely* admit to not watching the movies they vote on. That bald statue neeever meant a whole lot."

[@glitterkitty1979]

This!!! 😂

[@krissteel4074]

Its just the people who make drama for a living creating more drama for themselves as a way of slapping each other on the back or sometimes their face, dramatically

[@TheOneAndOnlyLUUUU]

It sadly matters when it comes to funding. Some new obscure director who suddenly wins best director or even best picture can suddenly get millions of dollars of funding for their next movie.

[@Luminousreign]

@@TheOneAndOnlyLUUUU it is an industry driven award. If they think you are good enough to throw money at, the award doesn’t change that.

[@zombifiedpariah7392]

It's so weird watching anyone care about a bunch of self obsessed, delusional, ass kissing narcissists rate movies. Who gives a shit? And why? It's such an anomalous phenomenon.

[@keiichi8191]

I love the arguments that this somehow proves that misogyny is "still a problem." If woke liberal Hollywood can't even find some justification to nominate you, then you really must not have been deserving of the nomination. Probably had too many DEI nominations already and couldn't find a way to squeeze her in.

[@jacobhouck1182]

And it shows that the presumed patriarchy is in the group of people relentlessly trying to message us about how bad we are

[@lostalone9320]

Even if you just want to look in DEI terms, it shows that being a white chick has become white noise to the academy.

[@Falconlibrary]

I used to teach in a private school that had children of Academy members as students. It was typical for the parents to hand their ballots to their teenaged children to complete, because the parents hadn't seen most (sometimes none) of the nominated films. A son of an Oscar-winning actor told me he'd been filling out his dad's ballot for years, and asked me if I'd seen this film or that one, because he hadn't. So yeah, I voted in the Academy Awards that year, or at least advised a sixteen year old who did. tldr; The Oscars are a joke and no one should take them seriously.

[@colincopland3665]

It’s an amazing plot twist when the Oscars are unmasked as the actual Teen Choice Awards!

[@BertoxolusThePuzzled]

It certainly explains all the Barbies hype, if nothing else...

[@Wired4Life2]

Do aloof Oscars voters even KNOW what any film buff worth their salt would give to get to vote for the Oscars??

[@Deadgod91]

Yeh these things happen a lot. I remember there was a story many years back where an Academy member admitted that he never watched the animation movie category and yet voted for the movie that most popular.

[@DanCro-gk4he]

I imagine that happens an awful lot.​@@Deadgod91

[@billcc7704]

I know he said "Live action remake number 18" as a sarcastic jab at Little Mermaid...but it is #21. Let that sink in. 🙂

[@brandonm4550]

The fact this dumpster fire got any nominations is a feat in itself. That being said Gosling was by far the best thing in the film.

[@GIBBO4182]

If the main criteria for nominations is box office success, why has there never been this kind of uproar before!? Plenty of money making movies don’t get nominated…Fast & Furious has made tonnes of cash, for example

[@Luminousreign]

The celebrities campaign for it. There is no actual metric so when they get snubbed it is actually pretty personal.

[@lostalone9320]

I actually welcome the return of financial success as a criteria for the oscars. Way back when the awards went to the big studio blockbusters, largely due to corruption rather than merit, but at least there was some sense of competition. When they started allowing for movies that had never seen a general release, everything went mad. You could win an oscar before anyone had seen the film. Theoretically you could win an oscar and never let anyone see the film!

[@derkeheath5172]

Nerds have gotten upset when their favorite trash cinema hasn't been nominated for decades.

[@michaelplowman8674]

Never forget that Black Panther was nominated for Best Picture for this reason in the same year Infinity War came out.

[@marychocolatefairy]

@@lostalone9320 That would be nice, but they're only using Barbie's success as an excuse to justify their rage, lol. I mean, they don't care that the #2 movie, Super Mario Bros got 0 noms. The category it had the best chance for (and could have been in, over Elemental at least), has some obscure movies in it. But I'm not hearing any uproar over that. Also, at the time the blockbusters were winning, Hollywood was very different, as they were making lots of high quality movies that many different demos could enjoy, and which became enduring hits. Like Forrest Gump and Titanic. But those kinds of films became increasingly rare through the 2000s, for various reasons.

[@milanloranger8372]

People who don't watch movies because of subtitles are missing out on the best movies ever made.

[@aszechy]

Totally agree. It's great to watch films that are different from the usual Hollywood fare. If you're an adult, reading should hardly require a prohibitive level of effort...

[@profesa-rsk]

I love that he said "the way they resolved the issues was bizarre"! My thoughts exactly. They had plenty of build up for great story arcs, which not only fell flat but made NO sense smh this movie was a HUGE opportunity wasted. The only reason why it made #1 was because it was one of the biggest brands in one of the worst years for movies

[@Moyeeshen2304]

Is like they sacrifice story arc for an easy solution (third act writing). Especially Barbie and Oppenheimer release in the same day and many people including myself watch it in the same day. One offer uncontrolable problem with no solution and another one give an ideal solution with weird entry. I really thought Barbie want to address some real life issues to balance out ther 'toy brand' but unfortunately i think no one really have any deep thought on our society after the watch.

[@phaeded0ut]

On a slight tangent, I rather liked Toho’s humble response to their Oscars nod in a technical category. I do feel like “Godzilla Minus One” got snubbed for Best Foreign Film, but hey, it is the Oscars. On a happier note, Godzilla Minus One black and white is a very real thing and the rumor mill is saying the Blu Ray will be getting both versions when it is finally released. $13.3 million?!? I can’t get over that tiny number.

[@Splitter4416]

Academy rules on the foreign film category require each country to pick the movie they want to put up for nomination. Japan didn’t choose to represent itself with Minus One same way France did not represent itself with Anatomy of a Fall, which was also not nominated for foreign film.

[@dee-taylor]

The fact that a Barbie movie was even mentioned in the same breath as the Oscars shows how far we've fallen as a culture and how close we are to full-on Idiocracy.

[@stratocactus]

That's such an elitist take on cinema, and culture in general. You can absolutely create a masterpiece about a rather trivial subject. Not saying Barbie is a masterpiece here. Just pointing at the absurdity of your comment.

[@funkydiscogod]

Greatness can come from anywhere.

[@Erasureeraser]

And yet you do know a good storytelling can comes from anywhere right?

[@stratocactus]

@@schmiggidyit's not. OP mentioned "A Barbie Movie". Not this movie in particular. The way he phrased it, it looks like making a movie about Barbie is not worth an Oscar. Disqualifying the subject rather than the actual quality.

[@stratocactus]

@@schmiggidy OK what about you come back with actual arguments next time? Stop wasting my time.

[@georgeedward1226]

The women of Afghanistan will certainly be horrified to learn of Hollywood's latest display of sexism.

[@TheJeremyKentBGross]

Not to mention North Korea.

[@alex1vid]

I think it's absolutely hilarious that Gosling (Ken) got nominated but Barbie didn't. I bet that's totally gotten delusional people going bonkers...

[@RJALEXANDER777]

That has to be intentional by the Oscar folk. Anyone with half a brain would know how the press would spin that fact. They're trying to make the ceremony relevant.

[@laurenelizabeth2505]

VALID!!!! That makes sense.@@RJALEXANDER777

[@Auburn_Zero]

My wife and I finally saw the Barbie movie because it was free on a streaming service (I'll be damned if I'm spending any money on it). Our summary was, "It starts off insulting and ends up stupid." It was a total waste of time.

[@gabrieldjatienza6971]

Hilarious.... Ken stole Barbie's thunder in her own movie!

[@lesbo37]

I watched Barbie, I'm more surprised it got any nominations than that it didn't get some for certain categories. I could see it being fun for the target audience but it really wasn't a very good movie overall, very generic. I could totally buy it getting nominated for costumes to be fair, it was a colourful mess. Ryan Gosling absolutely was the star of the move as well so it makes sense for him to get a nomination if it's going to get one. Barbie winning awards would be like Dodgeball or The Hangover winning awards. It's fun (as evidenced by its success, I didn't enjoy it) but it's hardly some critical masterpiece that should be winning awards.

[@LastBastian]

Dodgeball and Hangover were at least funny, and not actively pushing a message of hate for half the population. Barbie was complete garbage pretty much all the way around. Litteraly one of the worst movies I've ever sat through.

[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

I think the actor playing Barbie's gynecologist should have been nominated for best supporting. 😉

[@chasehedges6775]

Along with Ryan Gosling and the child actress playing The teen girl.

[@owen1079]

C#@t of a role tho

[@optimalkfrt]

Drinker, that Back to the Future idea hit the spot. Just write a screenplay for a comedy based on that!

[@strambino1]

I think Godzilla got snubbed.

[@havocstormbringer1503]

Barbie made me embrace the idea that there should be a patriarchy

[@andyt2979]

Godzilla Minus One was never going to donwell at the oscars; it exposed the immense waste of Hollywood budgets. It prioritised good storytelling and effects over diversity, so they had to acknowledge it, but not have it do TOO well.

[@killzoneisa]

Do every day working people care about the Oscars anymore ?

[@LapisPebble]

No

[@ministerofdarkness]

Who works anymore besides the Drinker?

[@elathiaskade7311]

Not I nor anyone I know.

[@Fe7Ace]

The value of awards are based upon the respect we have for the people giving them out, hell if I know how anyone has any respect left for the Oscars. If it's not the attending celebrities making fools of themselves then it's the organizers using their position to try and manipulate and profit. The beating heart of everything wrong with Hollywood.

[@L1VE3V1L]

Nope

[@reginaphalange9417]

I love Robbie but she didn't deserve to be nominated for this role, even Ryan Gosling didn't. The only Oscar this movie deserves is production design or costume design

[@chrisgoodier6825]

Lord and Miller directing/writing this movie would have been brilliant. Imagine these actors with this asthetic but with Jump Street/Lego movie humour, meta references and story.

[@thatonea-hole]

The story would be better, the humor would be great, and the overall film would actually be enjoyable!

[@TheMasterQuests]

There humor is always too meta for my taste but I would’ve gladly taken it over the garbage that released

[@johnsinglet575]

My god, I want to see this lol. Lorde and Miller are great

[@jeremyk9000]

This was such a good open bar team. I love all the creators here. Great stuff lads.

[@chasehedges6775]

Great panel

[@spyroluver0951]

Is it true that Ryan Gosling has to sing "I'm just Ken" at the next big award show because of his win?😂

[@SaintGerbilUK]

Unstoppable kenergy!

[@Lonovavir]

The mokentum can't be stopped.

[@insulttothehumanrace3807]

That will be very kentertaining.

[@zacharymcmillan2788]

Tell me more;you've caught my kenterest.

[@spyroluver0951]

oh my goodness, you all are funny 😂😂😂

[@marychocolatefairy]

Considering that Gosling was Barbie's MVP, he absolutely should have been nominated. The rest of the cast aren't anywhere in the same league. I'll also give them costuming, art direction, and song. Nothing else. Also, since Gerwig fans are using Barbie being the #1 film to justify their rage- let's point out the #2 film, Super Mario, got NO noms. Not even best animation, which imo is a far bigger "snub" than Gerwig's. I'm not familiar with some of the noms, but it should've beat out Elemental.

[@Towner101]

Y’all should do your own award show. Like a legitimate award show that’s taken seriously.

[@Wired4Life2]

I volunteer to handle the categories and all the rules involved.

[@nealm6764]

Oh noes! How can any grown adult get out of bed in the morning knowing such an injustice against "Barbie" has been committed!!!!

[@rigell2764]

The comment about the smartphone is very on point. Self-indulgent women living in a western nation complaining about how oppressed they are using a device that was manufactured using slave labor with materials harvested using slave labor.

[@peterlynley]

I have personally boycotted the oscars (small "o" intended) since 1979 when they refused to give Apocalypse Now the best picture award.....I have less reason than ever to start.

[@generalgrevous2458]

Ricky Gervais hosting 2020 Golden Globes pretty well sums up PEDO-WOOD.

[@giulizpaviz6381]

The fact that Ryan Gosling, the one who plays Ken, the main antagonist, got nominated for the Oscars feels like a little karma to that movie

[@Winterascent]

I'll always remember where I was, and what I was doing, when I heard The Barbie Movie was passed over for Oscar Nominations.

[@Chertoff88]

No one was very upset when Michael Bay wasn't nominated for an Oscar for Transformers. It's the same thing.

[@JJNubbins]

i’m pissing and crying and screaming

[@moseshorowitz4345]

This is Ryan Gosling's _Simple Jack_ , and as we know you never go full Ken.

[@daviddrabick9018]

Nominating unworthy films doesn't elevate them to worthiness, it devalues the nominations...

[@TheEvertw]

I am disgusted by people being disappointed that Barby is not nominated for specific categories. The Oscars are NOT a popularity contest, but are to reward professional achievements in the many aspects of movie creation. And there is no category for "Best Political Message".

[@grimmriffer]

Give it time.

[@_Just_John]

"reward professional achievements in the many aspects of movie creation" but only if you follow their inclusivity quotas and other criteria created as embodiment of virtue signaling and western brain rot. Oscars are a joke compared to what it was a decade or two ago.

[@TheEvertw]

@@_Just_John I wrote what it was intended for, not what it has become ;-) And instead of "reward" I should have used "recognize", but felt it wasn't worth the edit.

[@tylergoodman3560]

The big takeaway from this is that you can't win em all. Sometimes the best isn't good Kenough. 🎉

[@BleachDemon707]

Dumb. 🙄

[@chasehedges6775]

Ryan Gosling and Arianna Greenblatt, the actress who played the teen grl gave the best performances in the mediocre Barbie movie. I feel bad for the girl because she was Young Gamora in Infinity War

[@madcapmakov2]

Yeah I wondered why she looked familiar

[@chasehedges6775]

@@madcapmakov2 True. She was also in Ashoka and she was great there with Hayden Christensen.

[@liamphibia]

Did you know Ariana *and* Jenna Ortega were both in a Disney Channel show called Stuck in the Middle? Yeah, and look at them now.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@liamphibia Awesome how far they've come. Well, maybe not considering how bad movies and shows are now

[@Fe7Ace]

I never watched Barbie but I am amused with the idea that if Robbie was playing her role really well it was probably a rather wooden performance because she was literally acting a doll. She was great casting for that role, has a great "barbie smile", and I can imagine her spending a lot of time being rather mono-expressive with that smile in the role. Just doesn't seem like a good recipe to show off acting chops, it's impressive Gosling got nominated at all for playing the Ken doll.

[@dococ3272]

The DESPOT!!! You brought on the Despot!!! Now I gotta see despot and disparu. Btw his camera was perfectly lined up with maulers avatar in the background! Now you can’t unsee it.

[@alexkaen1701]

You guys got it just right, Barbie is a lot less important than it's been made out to be It is not in the running for best of anything, with the exception of pure politics

[@TexasTimeLord]

The sense of entitlement in certain types of individuals is staggering

[@RogueKT21]

Solution: have a Barbie’s Oscar show where they give out little pink Oscarettes and Barbie wins everything!

[@BillPeschel]

Echo Chamberlain's video describing the other director / actress nominees and asking "who would you boot to put them in" is an effective counterargument.

[@evilsimeon]

It’s amazing, simply because someone turned Barbie into a movie worth watching.

[@diogogomes3238]

The fact a movie like barbie got so many "oscars" nominations is insane.

[@Jessie_James850]

Braveheart(C. Drinker) you are killing me with your accent. I was like,who or wtf is "metal board' in Barbie movie,but eventualy I decoded what are you talking about -Mattel board. 😂

[@jaysdood]

You know how far Hollywood has fallen when Barbie gets 8 nominations. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@carlrood4457]

You could literally SEE the sarcasm in this title.

[@stiffmata]

Actually called it on Ryan Gosling"s nomination when I first watched the movie I think he deserves it as he did a good job in service of the movie and the story in general. Wished i could say the same about De Niro these days, who seems to be nominated for being alive.

[@rammisalami]

It’s almost like these stans just float from fandom to fandom front running for the property until their inevitable psychopathy shines through and destroys it, making everyone that was already present look like crazy people.

[@ifu138]

If they didn't want this to happen then maybe they shouldn't have given Ryan Gosling the only entertaining parts of the movie...

[@t.k.1319]

Everyone crying about no nominations for Greta Gerwig and Margot Robbie doesn’t realize *they were both Producers* - the Best Picture nomination applies to all Producers.

[@mastercylinder1939]

You watched Barbie, so we don’t have too.

[@simondancaster8334]

Top-class panel! Great points and perspectives 😄

[@radical8382]

Meme-able should absolutely be a category for the Oscars.

[@anthonymcgrath]

the best bit of all these vids is when Drinker states something and you can hear Mauler take this deflated and destroyed sigh just before quipping up 😂

[@tomjames9681]

No nominations for Spider Verse’s score. That’s probably my biggest snub, aside from all the nominations Godzilla should’ve got.

[@Dragon123Slayer]

It's ridiculous that some people just DEMAND that the movie they like should get all the nominations possible. Even a masterpiece like Jurassic Park was nominated for just three Oscars... I mean, come on......

[@beastiebear7231]

8 nominations for a toy commercial it ridiculous enough. Also, there are 5 other women who weren't in a toy commercial nominated. The category is happening... with better actresses being nominated

[@beastiebear7231]

They are talking about a Mettel universe (even a Uno movie..). Just as we got rid of marvel and co., hoping better movies will have room again, they want a toy universe..

[@JoeyM10]

I hate using the word “privileged” because ‘they’ over use it. But…. What a privileged point of view to have that we live in the most wealthy and free country in the world and people spend their energies on weather their person isn’t winning a statue for saying words on camera?

[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

Come on Barbie, let's go party.

[@theelvis654]

Oh oh oh oh

[@Fundelstein]

Ah ah ah yeah!

[@Сайтамен]

You should brush my hair, undress me everywhere...

[@kingleech16]

Nooooooooooooooo!!!! You monster.

[@drumsandroses22]

Tokenism at its finest

[@christophertaylor9100]

What confuses me is how Ken, who clearly was the male lead, is being called a supporting actor.

[@scratch90]

That ending quote was hilarious. You are not allowed to stay in the past.

[@gustavmetal]

Director didnt mean Ken to be relatable/likeable, but he was (so I've read, Idc about this movie); it reminds me of The Boys' Soldier Boy, showrunner wanted him to be seen as everything that is wrong with toxic masculinity and hands down he was the best thing out of the 3rd season.

[@valenciasainz]

This is the most ironic thing in 2024 and it's not been even a month so far. Amazing. 😂

[@laganas2008]

She's everything, he's just an oscar nominee.

[@laurast.martin]

The Despot and The Little Platoon are two of my favorite movie reviewers!! When does this full episode come out?!

[@noelburland7169]

The movie was seemingly celebrated as the Matriarchy taking down the Patriarchy and putting them in their place, yet the male lead gets an Oscar nomination while the female lead got snubbed, leading to an online feminist meltdown. You couldn't make this stuff up if you tried!

[@Shelleybean008]

Why do women have to lift themselves up by putting men down? As a person with a teaching degree, the best way to teach an idea is with positivity not with negativity.

[@aluncurtis6124]

Illustrates that the Oscars mean sweet fuck all.

[@Z00111111]

I went and saw Godzilla Minus One at the cinema because you recommended it, and it's the best movie I've seen in years. Some of the graphics were terrible, but 90% of it was stunning. The script makes it not an issue though, the movie isn't about CGI monsters, it's about humans. What really makes it worth watching is the acting. The characters sell the movie. There are real stakes because you really care about the outcomes for the small number of main characters. Favourite scene for me was Noriko and Koichi in Ginza.

[@Erasureeraser]

Funny that some people say the movie for being "anti-men" when Ryan Gosling's performance was one of the most acclaimed part of the movie and "I'm Just Ken" song was a huge hit 😂

[@chasehedges6775]

Ryan Gosling is a legend

[@jodi2847]

It's not totally misandrist, just 95%. That the small bit of sympathy he gets was unintentional, is beside the point.

[@alexman378]

That was unintentional. Ken was supposed to be a bit of a laughing stock and male parody, but due to the fact that feminists don’t consider men to be human beings with struggles, he resonated with many men who are unseen, unrecognised, unappreciated, consistently told they don’t matter, but should worship women and be grateful for whatever little attention they even get. They genuinely don’t understand that this is the reality for most men, and think women are the ones who actually have it hard (even though they have a whole monologue listing problems only women will direct to other women, not men). It’s the same with the character of Walker in Falcon and the Winter Soldier. They wanted to craft a villain and he turned out to be the most unintentionally heroic one.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@alexman378 💯

[@Mouse_Metal]

@@alexman378 The narcissists from Hollyweird are so morally bankrupt they write villains as heroes and her-oes as villains and are unable to see it.

[@johnmcnamara8741]

I’m insulted that America Ferrera got nominated. She was dreadful in that movie.

[@wrymehexin3885]

Barbie shouldn’t be nominated for anything easily the worst movie of the year and one of the worst films of the century thus far

[@brick6347]

I didn't see it because I'm not a little girl... Isn't it for little girls? Why are we talking about dollies?!

[@mattthespyd3r969]

Because this is a film and TV channel. So they discuss film and TV

[@usmcsaxoki]

I agree that Barbie was NOT a good movie. My wife and I watched it until they got to the board scene and we stopped it, went to bed, and the next day agreed not to finish it because we both had no interest. It's seems the director didn't know how to direct Will Ferrell and just said, "Just be Will Ferrell." I also can not believe it got any Oscar nominations let alone 8!

[@chasehedges6775]

💯💯👍

[@chasehedges6775]

Will Farrell has definitely worn out his welcome

[@bradwolf07]

Godzilla for best supporting Actress...I could get behind that, hahahaha

[@kevgamble]

The last time the #1 box-office movie of the year got a Best Director nomination was 15 years ago (Avatar). The last time it won the category was 26 years ago (Titanic). With the expanded Best Picture nominee group that's been in place since 2009, half the Best Picture nominees every year don't also get a Best Director nomination. Which means Gerwig very well may have come in #6 in the voting. It happens. The same thing has happened in recent years to big names like Spielberg, Villeneuve, Branagh & Luhrmann. And of course, DiCaprio missed out on an acting nom this year too. The shared characteristic of people criticizing this seem to be: 1) Not having seen the other nominees' performances; 2) Not being willing to name which other nominees don't deserve their nomination; 3) Not being aware of the context described above. (And a bonus #4, erasing America Fererra's accomplishment from any celebration whatsoever.) But still willing to cry sexism, unfairness, and to want something to be different without actually saying how it should be different and why. We have grown adults saying things like, "there's no Ken without Barbie". Alarming blurring of reality & fantasy.

[@Jessica_Jones]

💯

[@Wired4Life2]

@@Jessica_Jones Yuck, America Ferrera only got that nom because of that eye-rolling monologue and her recent special achievement award at the Critics Choice Awards.

[@Jessica_Jones]

@@Wired4Life2 agreed, but the folks complaining are making it all about who didn't get nominated and completely ignoring how excited they should be for America (who is actually the person who said all the "powerful" words anyway). It's all quite hypocritical and silly.

[@Wired4Life2]

​@@Jessica_Jones I suppose that's the normies for ya. As an Oscars follower, I was ready for Gerwig and Robbie snubs whilst dreading a Ferrera nomination, and here we are.

[@Jessica_Jones]

@@Wired4Life2 well I'm admittedly pretty excited by how many great performances are in the running, and as a result feeling quite hopeful that we'll see someone *else* get to win 🤞🏼

[@lindseycaldwell9559]

I think it's funny that everyone's like, "Why is I'm Just Ken the thing that's getting an oscar nomination?" Well, uh, I didn't go see the movie despite being the exact demographic it was aimed at, and the only song from it that I heard was, in fact, I'm Just Ken. I don't even know what other music is in the movie

[@jeffisgay4eva]

Barbie is a great example of a popular movie that isn't particularly exceptional, the success is on name recognition.

[@SolarDragon007]

Drinker and co. should check out "Drive" from 2011. Great film with stunning cinematography, a killer soundtrack, and one of Ryan Gosling's most iconic performances. Also gave rise to the "Literally me" meme lol.

[@chasehedges6775]

Also Fracture from 2007.

[@SolarDragon007]

@anthaleus3154 Very true. It's gained a strong cult following in some online circles as well as through the memes, but I don't see it talked about much outside of that.

[@TheMasterQuests]

It’s a pretty eh movie

[@wagner5424]

It’s one of my favorite movies, I love Drive.

[@IcyWun]

Boring uneventful film but good soundtrack

[@PatricksCrazyPlace]

The real snub was Godzilla: Minus One. Didn't even get a nomination for best international film.

[@kuddenchristo]

Even the crappy 1998 version of Godzilla is a masterpiece compared to the Barbie movie that came out last year.