Drinker's Chasers - Witcher Season 3 Trailer Gets Utterly Destroyed

[@TheWarmachine375]

Netflix really prefers to double down than admit they were wrong to alienate Henry Cavill who just wanted Witcher show to be faithful to the source material.

[@kiki_de]

That’s the majority problem in our society. People rather double down on a mistake instead of admitting that they was wrong. See Disney, Netflix, Politics and Bud Light.

[@DamienDarkside]

​@@kiki_de Also goes for the right wing too, Election Denial weakening democracy, Stripping rights from Americans*, and completely destroying the trust of the public in SCOTUS. Seriously, if you're going to go one way, go the other too. "People" encompass both sides of the politcal spectrum and double down just as much. Watch in the comments as people react to us. Half the population isn't as intelligent as the other half, and the bar isn't set high. You know just as many dumbass lefties as you do right. Disney we can all agree, needs to stop fucking doubling down on making LIVE ACTION MOVIES OF THEIR OLD ANIMATED MOVIES THEY ADD NOTHING GODDAMMIT STOP IT. *(believe it or not, LGBT+ and LGBT+ youth are American Citizens and Republicans are denying medical rights. Way to go party of "Stop the government from interfering with your life")

[@mikeemmons1079]

Have you met a lefty? There is a reason "That wasnt real communism" is a stand alone punch line.

[@Peteruspl]

I wonder if they fired some writers, admitted failure and actually tried to weave it back on track exactly to the books, could this still work? Henry might go back and that would already improve it a lot. I stopped watching early into 2nd season but I would give it a try if they admitted they screwed it and try to fix it now.

[@chrissymc886]

They need their own Terry Matalas.

[@HeisenbergFam]

Netflix getting rid of Henry Cavill and not listening to him about being lore accurate was a huge mistake

[@Kernwadi]

I'm telling you, the real reason Walter broke bad was because he received the world's shittiest handjob which made him reconsider his entire existence. Your wife yanking around your 50 year old half chub with 10% of her attention while simultaneously borderline orgasming at selling a girthy 8,5 inch vase on eBay for 56 dollars is an experience that people in the darkest bdsm dungeons would be shivering at. I swear to god Walter Jr. is probably having a wilder sex life on the other side of the wall with his sock than these two have had in the past five years. So when he received his cancer diagnosis the prolonged silence was not due to shock but because of pure bliss and relief because he knew that in a few years he'll likely be dead and won't have to live like that. That's why when he received the news of remission he was so goddamn angry. And I don't know why people see the Salamanca twins as villains, they were clearly just tryna help a homie out and spare him from this existence. Oh, but why did they go after Hank then, you might ask? Well, then you clearly don't remember Hank's handjob scene from season 4, they were trying to save him from that. Really they were the true heroes of this show trying to save people from fucking miserable, dick shriveling handjobs. And then, of course, shit starts happening, Skyler fucks Ted and Walt goes off the chain prolly thinking stuff like "bet she didn't give just a shitty handjob to Ted, oh no! My god, I wouldn't even be surprised if she agreed to do anal with him! While I've been pleading for years!". That right there's a thought progression enough to start a man crashing plants in random office buildings. And the way it can mess with your sexual thinking, Lord only knows what kind of cataclysmic insanities Walt was busting nuts to while living alone. But then Walt has a romantic dinner with Gus, realises there's at least someone who'd probably agree to have anal with him, meanwhile Ted gets paralyzed, no more anal for him, Walt calls up Skyler "I won". Now Walt can be smug for the entirety of season 5, he's back on top of the sex chain. So Breaking Bad is really about Walt's sexual transformation from a submissive forced-into-humiliation-kink middle aged man to a borderline sex offender to an off the rails cuck to a pure alpha male who's ascended past sex and at the end of season 5 we can see him die with bliss on his face because he's redeemed himself.

[@Kernwadi]

You're not a real person.

[@gorgit]

They didnt get rid of him, he left after having told them he would if they didnt stick to the source material.

[@JesusChrist2000BC]

Not just a huge mistake one of the biggest mistakes they've ever made as a company. You think about how much money this series would have made them had they turned it into a Game of Thrones like series coming out yearly. If I was the Netflix CEO I'd fire the entire staff for ruining this as it basically will cost them tens of millions in losses.

[@Kernwadi]

@@JesusChrist2000BC Hello, Jesus. I'm a big fan.

[@bjmar13]

"Hey, here's a book millions love. Here's an actor who matches the videogame rendition, has spent HOURS making his voice match, and also respected the source material SO WELL he read all the books and played every game. All you have to do, is follow the book and make it look sexy as hell." Netflix: "So that sounds great, but I think we're going to change everything because we can."

[@joshuadejesus9861]

“Also let’s fire him when he gets mad where not following the source”

[@doublep1980]

It's absolutely baffling the level of incompetence & fail that Netflix has shown in handling The Witcher IP. You have a popular fantasy IP, with enough material for several seasons. A lead actor, who is very popular among the fans and also a massive fan of the material himself. Cavill literally busted his arse, getting ready for the part, training, reading the books & promoting season 1 like crazy during the promo-interviews. A huge potential fanbase, who hungers for well written, fantasy. All they had to do was: get some competent writers, give them a decent budget and let them adapt the source material PROPERLY. Instead, netflix did what netflix always does. They hired some activist hacks, who never cared about properly adapting this source material and were more concerned with pushing their agenda. The fact, that Cavill just said: ''I got enough of this BS, I'm outta here!'' speaks volumes!

[@filmandfirearms]

This really applies to most modern adaptations. Rings of Power had enough material to work with for at least a dozen seasons of pretty high quality stuff, if they only gave a shit about making quality content rather than pushing a message

[@Zehive]

Its not incompetence, its pure malice. They know they stand to gain investor dollars for having the right political opinions if they hire certain talent to create certain content. The only hope against this all, is that the economy slowly failing will slowly dry up the pool of money that seems to be "magically" getting created to fund this nonsense.

[@MrLookatmyhat]

I really think they're doing it on purpose to undermine anything and everything that can be considered a Western cultural touchstone.

[@mosshivenetwork117]

And the thing is they can still promote a shitty message through a well-written and well-made show.

[@josephfisher426]

@@Zehive But how long will they get investor dollars? Investors want a return. Cue someone commenting about the ethnic heritage of many of those investors... but stereotypically people of that heritage REALLY want that return.

[@MinersLoveGames]

Critical Doggo's nuanced, respectful yet honest, patient, and eloquent contributions to this discussion have truly elevated this podcast to new levels.

[@TimPortantno]

He says what we're all thinking

[@waynemcleod6767]

Critical Doggo is on point as always.

[@sergiogonzalesYT]

Critical Doggo is the heart of whole company!

[@sabatheus]

@@sergiogonzalesYT Critial Doggo's enthusiasm reflects the post-Henry Cavil Witcher audience excitement.

[@MrLookatmyhat]

Truly the wordsmith of our age

[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

Given Cavill's exit, they might as well call the show The Switcher. 😉

[@Kernwadi]

Examiner notes: It is 10:09 AM EST and pre-examination procedures are being conducted. The specimen has rinsed its rectum with a sanitizing agent in preparation for the procedure. Upon insertion of the distal phalange with sterile medical examination gloves, the specimen’s mucosa were substantially hemorrhaged from prior penetration by the examiner. Upon insertion of the middle phalange, it was noted that the specimen’s transitional zone was inflamed. Redness and swelling were observed. During insertion of the proximal phalange, the specimen performed thrusting motions and verbally communicated indications of pleasure. The specimen’s sphincter muscles were tender. Upon contact between the examiner’s distal phalange and the specimen’s prostate gland, the specimen began to experience convulsions. Upon penile penetration, the examiner noted immense friction and premature ejaculation into the specimen’s rectum. Findings: Despite subsequent minor injuries from prior penetration by the examiner, both the examiner and the specimen indicated pleasure. It is noted that the specimen does not require resting intervals between penile penetrative activity.

[@Banedraven]

Beat me to it 😂✌🏻

[@ferdycuy]

The Witch/Her

[@chrissymc886]

Or The Ditcher.

[@tnh723]

You dropped this 👑

[@bobsmith5185]

The Critical Doggo cam is much more exciting than most modern content, with better characterization, acting, plotting, production values, etc.

[@sergiogonzalesYT]

True words!

[@sigmacademy]

Critical Doggo: I'm standing my own genres in the KZbin space: sleeping dog ASMR and dog mukbang. :P

[@blackdragoncyrus]

The Critical Doggo is more engaging to watch than The Witcher show now.

[@Kernwadi]

Yes.

[@leslieleslie6590]

@@Kernwadi Yes

[@sleepalaska]

yes

[@tygressblade]

Can confirm.

[@waynemcleod6767]

Can't get enough. Hoping to see more of the Critical Doggo in future.

[@Erasureeraser]

Netflix and The Witcher writers doesn't deserve Henry Cavill at all. It's good that Henry resign from the role rather than making himself and Geralt look stupid because of the shitty writers

[@tygressblade]

Netflix has a writer and management issue politics aside. Look at how well Wednesday did when you let Jenna Ortega and Tim Burton do their jobs.

[@declanjones8888]

​@@tygressblade Indeed, they keep employing weird SJW Hacktivist writers who enjoy throwing Tokenism in our face and call it "Diversity".

[@LouisNothing]

Yeah... It probably was for the best. If Blood Origins is the direction they are headed in then they would have dragged him right down into the sewer with them.

[@tygressblade]

@@LouisNothing Bad writers and the executives who enable them are why we can’t have nice things.

[@nadilenebudski]

"Don't have such an open mind that your brains fall on the floor." -Abraham Lincoln

[@macmcleod1188]

"I never trusted internet quotes... I changed the conditions of the quote.", James T. Kirk.

[@michaelkriston2516]

Ironic

[@prestigemultimediagroup6436]

He literally never said that

[@macmcleod1188]

Per quote investigator... "[We] credit Walter Kotschnig with the saying because his speeches in 1939 and 1940 employed a close match. Certainly, he was a locus for its popularization. Yet, the 1937 citation indicated that the trope was already in circulation." Variations of the phrase on record go back to the House of Commons in 1880.

[@AxenfonKlatismrek]

These people are the opposite of open minded, they refuse to see world from any perspective other than their own.

[@incurableromantic4006]

I applaud the Critical Doggo getting her own slot on Open Bar.

[@williambarr7408]

100%

[@valiantthorr7577]

Came here for this

[@ChrisR395]

She's carrying the show

[@sergiogonzalesYT]

+1

[@harbl99]

Every local needs a resident dog.

[@ulrohermit1369]

As a hardCore TW fan i knew when they announced an "American" studio gonna make it into a show , what kinda show it would be going to be , and when they said "neftlix" I was sure , none of this was a surprise even a few years back

[@ulrohermit1369]

​@@AxenfonKlatismrek Lauren is a full-fledged crazy male-hating feminazi, I didn't even have to read about her, I could tell by just watching some of the interviews, the hate and resentment she had for Henry, it was oozing from her, as much as she tried to hide it, it was apparent, needless to say these kinds of hateful and biased ideologies on part of the writers and directs are never a good omen, everything was pointing towards a specific conclusion, this show was going to be a SJW propaganda Garbage unlike the shows of it's era and Suprize Suprize ....

[@John-kc4cg]

Critical doggo's insight is unparalleled, best guest.

[@lodrezzon]

Seeing Echo Chamberlain join you guys made my morning! Now, if I could just lock all you guys in a writers room for 6 months, I wonder what kind of stories we'd get.

[@Kyntteri]

Even in the Season 2, I noticed how the show was seemingly about anyone else BUT the Witcher named Geralt. He became a side character in his own show already. S3 will most likely continue on that.

[@justlivin2499]

Well if at least they're staying consistent with the books on that front lol. But seriously, in the later books Geralt is hardly even in it, in Tower of Swallows he is only in the first half and then the rest of the book is about Ciri and Yennefer, same goes for Lady of the Lake.

[@HerculesBallsInc]

Honestly I'm surprised they bothered re-casting Geralt instead of just writing him out.

[@alexfriedman918]

I feel for the showrunners - Blood Origins is a hard act to follow!

[@bartoszkrawczyk5921]

True. It's like being the next singer in a contest, but the previous contestant cursed out the audience, told them you hate them, and then vomited all over the stage - and there is no janitor in sight that could clean that up before your performance.

[@TheWarmachine375]

The Mandalorian Season 3: "I am the worst show ever!" Witcher Season 3: "Hold my beer."

[@alexfriedman918]

I think the exact quote is: “Hold my Bud Light!”

[@scott8448]

@Alex Friedman nah that’s when rings of power comes into the chat

[@BrandonGavin_EDC]

Don’t worry next season the will find a way to bring baby Grogu back again so it’s totally cool guys.

[@BrandonGavin_EDC]

@@scott8448 😂

[@BigRedSpot]

Mando S03 was perfectly watchable. Have you seen some of the tween oriented shows out there? They come with a disclaimer that you will need a barf bucket while viewing. It's just the in thing now for Star Wars geeks to shit on everything. Something not living up to your standards does not mean it is the worst ever. Some of the complaining people made about Mando this season was obviously grasping, they needed clicks so they went full negative. The fandom is officially jaded. Both sides are bad guys now.

[@PeakDennisReynolds]

Literally everything is being ruined these days. Why didn't they just respect and follow the phenomenal source material that was put on a plate for them. Liam Hemsworth has the acting ability and charisma of a goldfish.

[@jer1515]

Let's take a moment to appreciate the Last of Us actually sticking to and in some places improving the original story. What a fantastic anomaly

[@cal2127]

because they hate you. its not idiocy its intentional

[@PeakDennisReynolds]

@@cal2127 Yes I'm hated for something I have no control over. I didn't choose to be a tall, straight, white male. Hollywood now act as if every man is a secret harvey weinstein who shouldn't be allowed to enjoy anything. In 10 years there will literally be no franchises with a white guy as a protagonist. Every film will have a transgender overweight black lesbian leading it.

[@PeakDennisReynolds]

@@jer1515 Wasn't a fan of it personally. Had much less action than the games, wasted an episode on a gay love story to pander to today's generation of idiots rather than carrying out efficient storytelling for what is supposed to be a post apocalyptic tv show not broke back mountain, and hated how Joel is nothing like he was in the game for the majority of the show in order to not offend the pathetic people that get up in arms about stoic, brutal, no fucks given men being on their screens.

[@blaze4metal]

Because evil cannot create anything, it can only subvert and corrupt existing things. The left cannot meme nor create anything of value, but they need a host for their parasitic views to be pushed. They "subvert expectations" which really translates to "tricking the audience into another marxist lecture while we have them captive".

[@JerkyMurky]

It's honestly surprising the amount of people who loved season 1 of this show and most of those people I have spoken to at least enjoyed season 2... But most of them liked it because cavil is a perfect geralt and I believe that comes through because he actually cares about the product. Season 3 will probably be hated by the general audience not necessarily because of its quality. Half of us will hate it for that, but the other half will hate it because of the cavil firing news.

[@TheFourthWinchester]

Season 2 had 3 good episodes and the rest were garbage. And its true, only enjoyed it for Cavill. Disappointed that Chalotra became a background character in her own show in S2.

[@paulgalbraith3671]

Season one was ok it was different to slot of other generic fantasy shows but it did have some plot holes and didn't make alot of sense at times season 2 even more so turned into a different show ... Girl power

[@apolloisnotashirt]

I enjoyed it despite not understanding a single half of Season 1 and 2 because as a kid I was "YAY! Fantasy Medieval show!" Then at some point I stumbled onto Merlin and just binged that instead.

[@davidbuller9696]

I enjoyed season 1 and Cavil is most of the reason why. I had also read The Last Wish so I knew the stories they were using and could usually keep up with the time jumps. Season 2 was a big disappointment.

[@jacobhollback2879]

Season 1 was a mess and some of the casting choices really didn't resonate with me but it was enjoyable overall. As many are saying the main reason for the was Cavill. He was perfect as Geralt. I never watched season 2 but without him there is literally no reason to watch the show.

[@Kernwadi]

“I'd rather be handicapped than a communist.” -Bilbo Baggins

[@ab-gail]

What’s the difference?

[@Kernwadi]

​@@ab-gail Well, when you're handicapped you're probably smarter than a communist.

[@alexfriedman918]

@@ab-gail The first handicap might be purely physical, while the second is all cognitive!

[@DougDimmaDingus]

I’d rather cut my arm off than be a communist

[@Kernwadi]

@@ab-gail One is not evil, probably. The other one is.

[@engared]

Has Kathleen Kennedy been fired yet?

[@razorback9999able]

She's not fired. Not yet.

[@hapablap2088]

Never will be. Hollywood isnt a meritocracy.

[@pedrokantor3997]

She'll be fired when we get there kids!

[@blaze4metal]

Nope. They are already doubling down with another SW trilogy starring their Mary Sue, Rey.

[@heraldofwar]

If these people writing and making the show had 1% of the passion for the source material that Cavill did we might have got a half decent show!

[@blaze4metal]

It's Netflix. They've long ago fired everyone that would have done a good job in terms of writing.

[@CrisistentialXS]

The end of S1 I was still feeling like it had a lot of potential. lots of shows have a shaky first go and then figure it out after that. I was excited to see what S2 would be like and then i didn't even finish.

[@James_Bee]

I love how season ones main character, Yennifer, spends the season obsessing over becoming powerful and then, being told exactly what the cost of that power will be, no longer being able to become pregnant", spends all of season two saying she was never told that and trying to reverse that so she can have her own child. It's like the writers wanted to force a pro-choice message, forgetting that their main character, Yennifer, already made her choice. Season two wasn't good, but that absolutely destroyed any positives it may have had.

[@doomedrpgproject4473]

I strongly agree there. Season 1 had plenty of issues, but it did some things well and the potential was there. Season 2 was a complete waste of time apart from episode 1. I won't be watching season 3.

[@ElGrabnar]

​@@doomedrpgproject4473 Its absolutely wild that somehow we got one of the best episodes of dark fantasy tv ever and then absolute dogshit.

[@doomedrpgproject4473]

@@ElGrabnar Yes, it was so disappointing. It shows what the series could have been with a coherent creative vision behind it.

[@alexfriedman918]

Doggo’s reaction is very apt - anyone who tries watching Season 3 will have a similar response!

[@dronesclubhighjinks]

Witcher Blood Origin can't have done much to boost anybody's confidence in this franchise. Letting Henry Cavill go from Witcher - especially since we know the reason why - may be the last straw.

[@anthonyfava9367]

The sad part is they were able to make good episodes when they followed the books. Apart from the Ciri and Sodden plots, it was a decent season that Cavill carried. Even season 2 opens with a plot from the book. Its just the things they added eventually overtook that which was based on the source material and Ciri became Danaerys Targaryen 2.0.

[@farharbor3178]

The studios awareness of the ratio question (and they absolutely are) makes me curious ..... I'm curious because we've entered a twilight zone era in which studios are willingly (almost eagerly) producing things that they know fans are going to hate, well ahead of time. It seems like studios are happy being the person who ruins the wedding by barfing on the dance floor and knocking the bride down on the basis of: "A lot of people are talking about it". And on the same note though -- the trailer is out and being destroyed -- I doubt very much that they could meaningfully alter a season of television (in the can so to speak) in a way that would act as a constructive response.

[@bopapa_1979]

It is impossible to overstate how much the critical doggo adds to this show.

[@Spacenugget9]

Well, based on season 2, it follows that in season 3 a) Yennefer's storyline is massively changed (again), b) Francesca Findebair's storyline is changed, c) the Lodge's purpose has been subverted, and d) the interactions between Ciri and the Rats will be changed (actually this one could be okay). It's completely untrue to the lore, and that doesn't even get to my utter disgust at revealing who Emhyr var Emreis is before said reveal occurs in the books (I'm up to book 4 in the saga and it still hasn't been revealed).

[@justlivin2499]

They also completely destroyed my boi Cahir's character arc before it even began

[@SheldonAdama17]

Netflix: “It’s an ultimatum. Get it?” Cavill: “F***”

[@ВіталійКовач-г8ч]

We will consider this a karmic retribution for the fact that he did not care about the exact image of Superman.

[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

Which will be the superior Netflix show? The Witcher, or Cleopatra. Dont worry, both will definitely be 100% accurate to their respective sources.🙃

[@Kernwadi]

Yes.

[@jsmith8255]

Deffo

[@mosshivenetwork117]

Very silly.

[@catmonarchist8920]

The latter will probably inspire race riots in North Africa so that'll at least be entertaining!

[@KorraPokeReactions]

I wish they turned the Cleopatra comments back on. I never got to see them 😢

[@beanwithbaconmegarocket]

6:10 Tom hit the nail on the head. Three seasons has always been your window for getting a fanbase, even pre-streaming days. After that, you're just making shows for the existing audience. For networks, it was fine to continue beyond this because they'd have a solid viewer-base for advertising. But for streaming services, they are based on subscriber growth for their revenue and unless they think they will *lose* subscribers by stopping the series, they don't have the financial incentive to keep the shows going. Sidebar: This is also why shows tend to drop in quality after the third season--they start making episodes designed to keep the fans around, rather than writing the best material--filling the scripts with obvious fan service (e.g., having two characters get into a romance even if it doesn't make sense from a storytelling perspective).

[@marbellaotaiza801]

_Firefly has entered the chat_

[@marbellaotaiza801]

_Firefly has entered the chat_

[@Kernwadi]

I kinda love the fact that the curse of being Polish haunts me even in the things I watch on TV, things that are supposed to take my away from the problems of this world... I'll never escape my true nature.

[@peterquinn7878]

If you’re Polish, at least you’ve got Piroggi. 😼

[@Kernwadi]

@@peterquinn7878 That's basically the only positive.

[@apolloisnotashirt]

wait what's wrong with being Polish?

[@ericvulgate]

They're great scientists, I'm told. They made a submarine with a screen door and shot a manned rocket into the sun.

[@Kernwadi]

@@apolloisnotashirt 90% of politicians in my country are worthless thieves, this results in a lot of stupid laws and stupid people in positions of power... Not to mention that majority of the world hates us for one reason or another.

[@VideaVice25]

Everybody is diverse in every realm, under every latitude, always. Genius!

[@hemaccabe4292]

I'm an amateur writer. I can imagine being hired to write for something like the Witcher. Not my favorite thing ever, but I have bills to pay. (I actually did really like Season 1 of the show though.) However, if I took the job, first thing I would do is sit down and read the stories and watch the games being played. I'd also read a good bit of the fan commentary to see what they liked, felt was important, didn't like, etc. Only then would I start to write and try to write in a way that would please the fans. That's respect for the fans. If I screwed up anyway, I'd be able to say honestly, "I thought you would like it because of this and this." I think the fans would be patient under those circumstances and we could always get better as ST: TNG did after the first season.

[@konstantine8054]

Why would anyone bother with Witcher anymore is beyond anyone's understanding at this point.

[@sergiogonzalesYT]

There still are Witcher games :) Much better than all of Netflix-crap.

[@Cormano980]

Fanboys they're called, the show was garbage from the get go but no one has the balls to call it out

[@notKevinFeige]

At this point just be glad Netflix haven't gender/raceswapped him

[@mosshivenetwork117]

I thought it was going to be like that. Something like that happenjng.

[@blaze4metal]

Looks like they've done that with just about every other character, though.

[@ivanstrydom8417]

Yay! I did my part! Even before this video dropped.

[@smolkafilip]

Funny thing. There is a youtube channel dedicated to the Witcher 3 game called Xletalis, who gets about 2.25 million views per month on videos that are gameplay clips with commentary. So some random guy making videos in his spare time from his desktop gets about as many monthly views playing an 8 years old Witcher game, as these people get releasing a trailer to brand new Witcher content.

[@LouisNothing]

THE WITCHER Me: Season 1: 😃 Season 2: 🤔 Season 3: 🤨

[@TheClintonio]

I liked S1 of the Witcher well enough since I didn't read the books or play the games so I didn't see the issues with it, once I HAD played the games I realised how much they fucked it up.

[@PowerLord83]

Same, I didnt hear anything about the series before i watched the show. And now mad how much they changed and better it could have beeen

[@justlivin2499]

I mean the games are set after the books which the show is “adapting” so I can see why you’d say that, I’ve read the books so I agree with you either way

[@pauldacon828]

The first season of Westworld created a similar timeline with their narrative as The Witcher, the difference is they actually did it well and when you realized what was going on you were impressed and not confused or angry.

[@davidlacoste]

@@bwhere45 Yeah. That bugged me so much. Calanthe and her husband look exactly the same when her daughter marries and when the city is taken fifteen years later. Yaskier doesn't age over 20 years. And they are all normal humans. Even Roach seems to remain the same for several decades.

[@Azmodian]

I wonder if Cavil made the decision to leave before or after seeing season 3's script

[@PeakDennisReynolds]

I honestly reckon before. Season 2 was absolutely diabolical and made it clear they gave zero fucks about the source material.

[@italianspiderman5012]

@@PeakDennisReynoldsagree, he would know Lauren for a while and knew how full of s*it she is.

[@tagus100]

I think during. He probably wasn't happy and would raise concerns. He would've gotten ignored and ignored at every turn. That's when he made the decision to leave but waited until S3 had finished filming to bounce.

[@Fepanther6774]

The episode that was a near shot for shot adaptation of “a grain of truth” was the best episode Netflix produced and they didn’t write that story. All the evidence we need.

[@tallerwarrior1256]

Netflix has always been like this. The Witcher is disliked by the original creator and it’s main star who is a huge fan of the original books, Cowboy Bebop was disowned and publicly shamed by its original creator, The producers of Avatar The Last Airbender had their heads so far up their own asses that they made the original creators of the original series who were the showrunners on the live action adaptation quit because of “creative differences”. Like how can someone have “creative differences” with the creator of their work?!

[@chasehedges6775]

True

[@willaumep]

What baffles me is using a univers/franchise and then go out of your way to go away from the said source material.

[@AxenfonKlatismrek]

What I hate about the show is that how many writers would kill to have honor of writing the Witcher, how many writers, who are talented get overshadowed by these ungrateful, arrogant assholes, who's only skill is leeching from far better writers and vandalising their legacy. Why do writers like these get these opportunities?

[@GjVj]

The people behind this shit are motivated by hatred. They hate the audience, they hate the material, and they hate YOU. They get off on ruining the things that you once enjoyed. Understand that, accept it, and many things start to make sense.

[@kaj7135]

Classic bait and switch. Attract fans of an established franchise, shoehorn shitty woke and “girlboss” propaganda into the script, brainwash their viewers, then crash the entire show/movie and move onto the next franchise.

[@graydonrobson7471]

Went and read the comments on the trailer and they are golden 😂😂

[@dwavenminer]

The Critical Doggo has the perfect response to this season of Witcher...

[@madmarduk1936]

The Witcher without Henry Cavill is like Project Veritas without James O’KEEFE or Fox without Tucker Carlson… oh, wait..

[@jiggycalzone8585]

If he hadnt left he had a metoo target on his back most certainly

[@asdergold1]

Yep, dodged a bullet there.

[@VolvoImpala]

RIP Critical Doggo. Death by test screening. The Little Mermaid has taken too many lives.

[@asdf51501]

I watched episode one of season one, and absolutely noticed that it made no sense that there was a diverse mixture of different kinds of people in some nowhere town. Like... How did that happen? It took me right out of the story immersion and I never continued watching the show. Now I'm glad I never bothered.

[@PeakDennisReynolds]

Rings of power was exactly the same. Pandering to pathetic people that get offended over too many white people on their screen and in the process making a show full of unbelievable, unrealistic stupid bullshit. Rings of power was the biggest culprit of it.

[@xitaris5981]

Eh.. I don't think the diversity really ruins season 1. It doesn't feel that forced because they're not trying to represent a medieval Europe parallel universe and there's not really enough info about the continent for use to know what's a likely dispersion of demographics.

[@oXRaptorzXo]

So your logic is that the show sucks cause there’s other races?

[@LamiNalchor]

The first one was bearable. The second one was already damn weird. So, now without the main actor, no surprise.

[@langdalepaul]

Everyone is just so utterly fed up with “The Message”

[@MsSharondenadel]

"You can't tell a story to save your life" I'll print that on a tee-shirt.

[@italianspiderman5012]

Why is it “tee-shirt” btw?

[@jonathanbaker4361]

And the Critical Doggo just couldn't be bothered.

[@davebowman9000]

A thing that I feel doesn't get mentioned much is that the writers also were sexualizing Cavill, giving him naked scenes for the purpose of showing him bare chested and sweaty, to which he objected along with everything else they were doing

[@S1ipperyJim]

Since yotube doesn't show downvotes it's quite possible Netflix don't pay attention to it

[@peterquinn7878]

Saw the trailer for the reboot of Cronenberg’s Dead Ringers. At first, I laughed out loud, and then wondered why Cronenberg would allow it.

[@Glenuig]

It's actually good tho, Rachel weisz is amazing in it

[@rvfiasco]

Money is my first guess. It might actually have potential though. Mainly because of the lead. Well, we see how far THAT goes tho...😂

[@Mytro8533]

It's mind blowing that all streaming services keep doing this. The incompetence and hubris is off the charts. Total lack of QC.

[@KillerFusion17]

It truly was a sad show to sit through

[@nathanddrews]

Looking forward to Cavill's W40K series, but still worried about Amazon's interference.

[@headlibrarian1996]

I’m not sure why Cavill is courting Ana de Armas for WH40k. That isn’t a universe that’s likely to attract many female viewers no matter how bankable a female star you hire.

[@danieln6700]

Kinda wearly on that. I'd love it to be good but I don't have to many hopes for it

[@danieln6700]

​@@headlibrarian1996 it's mostly male yea. Sisters of battle would work if u want women. But yes the main audience is easily guys and driving them away isn't going to get u views.

[@headlibrarian1996]

@@danieln6700 A Sister of Battle, Sister of Silence, or perhaps a female Inquisitor. She could be a villain, like a Chaos Champion of some sort, or the voice of a daemon. We have no idea yet what Henry’s show concept is yet.

[@vjbd2757]

After kicking Cavill and showing the shitty Blood Origin, it's no surprise here.

[@JustTooDamnHonest]

The Critical Doggo speaks for everyone.

[@princeprocrastinate6485]

Season 1 was a rocky start but it had some decent episodes, there was potential for it to grow into something better. Season 2 dashed any hope of that, I barely remember anything from that season except for its first episode. I don't expect season 3 to be any better, but I'll watch it for Henry, he's the main draw and I want to see him in the role one last time. But I'm done after that.

[@TwinklesTheChinchilla]

Critical Doggo's silence is deafening. Such disappointment.

[@GhostOfSnuffles]

I *was* shaking when Hennery Cavil picked up the lightsaber and yelled "it's Morbin time". That battle with Picard on the deathstar was the season finale the Witcher deserved.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

I think Picard using kryptonite was below the belt though. And not as stunning and brave as the better ending to Fleabag Ravenwood and the Empty Egg Carton.The original ending involved Indiana waking up in his New York apartment, putting on the Fedora, and reflecting "this hat is perfection" to which fleabag responded "it will be once it fits a woman" and then she took the hat and put it on. Indy tried to protest so she aimed a machine gun at him, pointed to her eyes and said "look at me, look at me, I'm Indiana now" and then with she put the dial in the hat and became Ms. Retcon, and with the machine gun went to kill all the nazis in the multiverse, and to collect every relic that Indiana discovered, plus the mummy of Imhotep and the Dragon Emperor, the triangle of Light, the Golden Cat from that movie with Stifler and The Rock, and onto discover the cradle of life, and even King Solomon's Mines...

[@NhBleker]

Companies are aware of the like/dislike button on KZbin, which is why they tried to get rid of it by having KZbin eliminate it. Sadly for them, we can still have it by third party ways.

[@sterling7]

I will go as far as to say that there was some worthwhile stuff in season 1. Season 2 had its moments, but mostly it felt like it had respect for neither its source nor its audience. And the sheer amount of screen time it felt compelled to spend trying to "humanize" mass-murderers was the kind of thing that just made you want to shake the show runners, saying, "No. No. And hell no. I will not follow where you want to take me."

[@jarchack]

Seeing Heel and Echo Chamberlain next each other is like Mötley Crüe and Bach being on the same stage.

[@razorback9999able]

It's so bad that it made Game of Thrones Season 8 a masterpiece by comparison.

[@justlivin2499]

Wouldn’t go that far, s8 managed to do the impossible and turn a global phenomenon into a joke, this was a joke from the moment it was announced, with Henry being the only redeeming factor

[@fabienglasse]

The opening cinematic for the Witcher 3 Wild Hunt is 8 years old now. Seems that VFX has regressed since then, looking at that trailer Wild Hunt shot.

[@undead9999]

Netflix had the goose with the golden eggs, and they strangled it for they hubrys.... Hilarious, yet tragic

[@chasehedges6775]

Soooo true.

[@albatross8361]

A very good and insightful discussion ! In art and in life, we need to feel that we are on a journey, that we are going somewhere with some purpose, seeing signs and changes along the way. The feeling of going nowhere is soul-destroying, like living surrounded by Brutalist architecture, all concrete and no colour. And as I am one of those wilting violets who don't really enjoy a lot of bad language, I really appreciated the relative lack of it. Perhaps the calming presence of The Critical Doggo was at work...

[@TheWarmachine375]

To be honest, I'm more excited for "Voltes V Legacy" than this atrocity Netflix called Witcher Season 3.

[@razorback9999able]

Voltes V is an underrated classic.

[@Bossman207-g7x]

Did the first sonic the hedgehog trailer with the ugly sonic get ratioed? Wasn’t that part of the reason behind the redesign?

[@michaellee8815]

I’m just sitting here waiting for the critical doggo’s take… sure to be profound!

[@newwavepop]

well that explanation of how Netflix works makes so much sense now of why they are always cancelling show even hit ones. their entire strategy is bringing in new subscribers, but not in keeping the subscribers they already have by giving them the shows they want more of. i have seriously been thinking of getting rid of Netflix after the next Cobra Kai and last season of Stranger Things, solely because i have been getting irritated that i watch show after show on there that are clearly set in some sort of medieval to Victorian Britain or Scandinavia and there are all these divers ethnicities just walking around that make absolutely no sense in the time or place. as a history nut that grew up addictively watching docs about cultures and antiquity these shows whether factual or fantasy, i feel like im being lied to

[@ronsmith8424]

Do you think when these “characters” are telling bedtime stories to their children at night and the kids don’t get, would they scream at them that they are too stupid to understand their artistic genius and storm off leaving the little ones in tears ? I THINK YES !!

[@hemaccabe4292]

Once upon a time, being the IP holder gave absolute power over a franchise. That day is done. If the IP holder insists on not bringing out new content or bringing out garbage content, we can now make our own. I invite all my fellow Trekkers to enjoy another unauthorized novel completely free. Just google Star Trek Lost Destiny Race.

[@panpiper]

I enjoyed the first season of Witcher. I've not however bothered to watch the trailer, which might say something about my degree of interest at this point. Losing Cavill was the death knell for me.

[@italianspiderman5012]

I think the season 2 being still quite popular shows how popular the ip is rather then the quality of the show itself, also popularity of Cavill.

[@dimebag505]

That's why they got rid of the dislike count 😅

[@Samurai-Inferno]

It did absolutely nothing lol

[@lilg-star4408]

Most people like to make a huge fuss over how badly they screwed up. Fair enough, but for the writers it's all just about the quick money 💰 they should never let unknown writers near source material that has a firm fan base, books, games and past series.

[@AZRAEL-hu9ci]

Keep up the good work fella’s 👍🏽

[@matthewschwoebel8247]

Look at the Rotten Tomatoes scores for Witcher season 1 vs. 2. Season 1 has a high audience score (90%), lower critics' score (68%). Season 2 had a much lower audience score (58%), much higher critic's score (95%). The usual critics rallying around poor writing. I liked Season 1 better on re-watch. Agree the world building is poor.

[@FlamingoSandwich]

They wanted to be the next Game Of Thrones but they got their insperation from GOT season 8

[@AxenfonKlatismrek]

If you want something better, go watch Spartacus: Blood and Sand(+ GODS OF THE ARENA prequel.) ITS 1000 times better than Witcher and 10 times better than GOT, if you ask me

[@FlamingoSandwich]

@Filip Rebro it's good gets sad when you think about Andy Whitfield thought taken too soon

[@justlivin2499]

@@AxenfonKlatismrek The Last Kingdom is also an excellent show

[@Spurkadurka]

The Witcher season 1 got me into the books which then in turn made me turn away from the show seeing how much they'd changed. Watched season 2 out of curiosity and was disappointed to say the least. I don't think 'modern' writers understand that introducing these series to new audiences that may then go out and read the books will make them irritated with how they butcher the source material. Your comments comparing this to GoT are spot on, the world building is just horrible.

[@Kernwadi]

Let's say, hypothetically, I am a barbie girl. Okay let's even say I'm in a barbie world. Right so, in this scenario, I would obviously know from personal experience that life in plastic is fantastic. Wouldn't it be reasonable to assume you could brush my hair and undress me literally everywhere? Imagination; you can derive from the fundamentals of basic logic that life is your creation.

[@piotrswat169]

Klaus Barbie?

[@Kernwadi]

@@piotrswat169 Barbie Shapiro.

[@GjVj]

But the question remains - should we, or should we not, go party?

[@Kernwadi]

@@GjVj Oh yes, we should.

[@rvfiasco]

Makes sense to me.

[@silverscorpio24]

At this moment I care about The Witcher as much as The Critical Doggo

[@Brian_Boru]

Having Echo Chamberlain appearing here regularly would add a lot to the broadcast. Smart and cool.

[@eban907]

Drinker, why is the full show only put online on Sundays and these clips today and Saturday??? Wanna watch the full show now mate :(

[@booneshow1863]

Season 1 was alright. I was excited for season 2 because I assumed they would fix a few things and improve.

[@AxenfonKlatismrek]

Go watch Spartacus: Blood and Sand. Its better show than this

[@NhBleker]

Season 1 was good in catching you up on what The Witcher actually was, but that's about it. It did great in revitalizing the games though for a time.

[@booneshow1863]

@@NhBleker Yeah. It was the framing of season 1 that was rough. But it showed a lot of potential. Then they made Cavil quit.

[@NhBleker]

@@booneshow1863 Toss a Coin to your Witcher was an absolute banger.

[@GeoffryGifari]

guys you need to ask more input from critical doggo... its not fair

[@leosouza1508]

As a hardcore TW fan, who has played all games and read all the books, i tell you, i didnt even watch season 1 after i saw the casting actors. Not even the first episode. And i have no intention of watching, cause i know it will only stain the beautifull memory i have of the books / games. I also keep hearing of netflix changing the story, and that only reinforces my decision.

[@chasehedges6775]

Not a Witcher fan or even a hardcore fan and same, really

[@chasehedges6775]

At least Freya Allen, who plays the Circi girl, is getting put in better stuff like Kingdom Of The Planet Of The Apes, at least. I’m more of a Planet Of The Apes fan anyway

[@MrPHILLCROW]

There was still a lot of goodwill for the show going into S2, a lot of fans were hoping it would be an improvement on S1. S2 seriously damaged that goodwill due to unnecessary departures from source material and poor writing and then Henry Cavill's departure turned what little was left into ashes and Blood Origins pissed on the ashes

[@Mlai00]

S1E1 was jaw-droppingly good (the street fight, omg), good enough to make me power through the rest of the season which tbh wasn't bad. S2E2 (the vampire lady) was also extremely good. After finishing that I immediately powered on to the next episode. A few episodes in I stopped watching, and years later still hasn't gone back. I didn't hate anything in particular... it's just that the segments without Geralt were interminable. I don't watch generic Diversity Fantasy shows, and yet those segments turned into that 100%.

[@davidbonar5190]

to be fair, the 5-book-series by sapkowski without his 3 standalone anthologies are pretty ciri-focussed, to the extent that the witcher over vast amounts of pages does not feel like a protagonist at all. but we DO have the 3 the witcher anthologies, and we DO have the 3 games based on the witcher's adventures, which have cemented geralt of rivia as an iconic and beloved anti-hero character. and casting henry cavill was spot-on. instead of putting the focus on THE WITCHER, the character the actual fanbase is fixated on, they bloated ciri's backstory, they bloated yennefer's hogwarts back story, they bloated calanthe's (ciri's soldier queen general grandma) downfall, they bloated dandelion's role as comic relief... netflix disney-fied the witcher into a stereotypical princess fairy-tale

[@itsmeliska1186]

Will modern adaptation screenwriters ever realize that people are not turning up for their ideas but for the ideas of the originals author?

[@chasehedges6775]

EXACTLY.