Drinker's Chasers - The Rachel Zegler Apology Tour Has Begun

Its no secret that Rachel Zegler hasn't exactly endeared herself to the fans, so what do you do if you're a major studio with hundreds of millions of dollars invested in her movie? You stage a puff piece "interview" with another Disney princess and try to shift the blame away from her.

[@random_eskimo_in_the_rockies]

It’s not that she went on an apology tour, it’s that she went on a SCRIPTED apology tour. People recognize falsity, and we despise it.

[@blablableep6811]

Tbh all apology tours are scripted, but generally not so blatant especially for an actress

[@user-pm7pw1tl3t]

If people recognized "falsity" we wouldn't need judges and jury's.

[@shinian6523]

Did she actually apologize or even acknowledge that she did anything wrong?

[@azargX]

It's not an apology tour without an apology.

[@baxter1252]

​@@shinian6523She seems to just expect everyone to forget what she said before.

[@omniominous4534]

_"The biggest mistake a young actor can make, is to believe their own hype."_ -Christopher Lee

[@vladlenaschabrina1701]

Sir Christopher Lee. It's just like Jack Sparrow thing, you know

[@samaritan_sys]

@@vladlenaschabrina1701Captain. *Captain* Jack Sparrow.

[@vladlenaschabrina1701]

@@samaritan_sys yeah THAT is what I mean.

[@TheTurnipKing]

The biggest mistake ANYONE can make is to believe their own hype

[@DamienDarkside]

"Don't get lost in the sauce" - Sauce Boss, Epic Meal Time before they got lost in the sauce

[@GigglingStoners]

She came off as so genuine... said nobody ever.

[@criticalcommenter]

Great haiku

[@zibbitybibbitybop]

Zegler backtracks hard Not that she really buys it Disney forced her to There. Have a haiku lol

[@irishbob26]

Damn. That is a hiaku. I just came for the hate. Stayed for the poetry.

[@portland-182]

What acting skills has this unconvincing liar demonstrated?

[@irishbob26]

​@@portland-182hey. It almost convincingly acts like a human being!

[@tylergoodman3560]

Zegler should get an Oscar for this performance; it's her best work yet. 😂🎉

[@sergiogonzalesYT]

+1

[@muhdiversity7409]

Oscar for worst acting? TBH, that sounds about right for this dystopian hellscape.

[@sergiogonzalesYT]

@@muhdiversity7409 Oscar is a woke clown show now.

[@johnwolf2829]

Always remember, never forgive.

[@sergiogonzalesYT]

@@johnwolf2829 True words!

[@vortex_1336]

The funniest part is that none of that stuff she said was actually in the movie. The dwarves beat the villain. The Prince didn't arrive until after she "died". The only reason the Prince went looking for her was because he was told she was dead and he didn't believe it. So, yeah. She never actually saw the movie in the first place.

[@bruhdon4748]

Good point

[@hermask815]

Yeah. A stalker is always somewhere around. The prince only arrives only 5 minutes before the end.

[@nmr7203]

I feel like she saw the movie but it's been a long time since then, and she was likely told to say those specific things and just didn't rewatch the movie to correct any of it.

[@RocafellaPlaza82]

Very Evidently So.... 😅

[@TNTITAN]

I don’t know if you can say the dwarfs beat the villain it’s a little more Dues Ex (lighting strike causes the evil queen to fall).

[@undead9999]

She is the least convincing liar I've ever seen

[@Mereologist]

Someone was forced to apologize to me once, and his apology was, "I'm sorry you're so sensitive." He always takes the cake for me. But I do find it hilarious that for someone who in her own mind is a great actress, that Zegler can't even manage to act sorry for a couple minutes.

[@DMichaelAtLarge]

The current presidential administration's spokesperson wins that award.

[@jlev1028]

Even more than George Santos?

[@SchmokinJoe]

Let's not forget Amber Heard's testimony.

[@hawkeye5955]

​@@jlev1028: George Santos never apologized. He is in fact the greatest Olympic swimmer that hit 500 home runs for the New York Jets.

[@christophercatiller2422]

Keep moving that furniture around, Disney. The ship is still sinking.

[@DMichaelAtLarge]

Good one.

[@tlk4554]

Now that is a creative insult. Take my like!

[@amit_patel654]

🤣🤣🤣

[@TrailblazerProductionsLLC]

Notice how when Zegler mentions Snow White, she is only mentioning the impersonal statistics of what the movie achieved. She makes no correction on her previous statements of the story being obsolete. She does not say the movie was good or bad. She said the movie was successful. That success is the only important factor because it is the foundation she now stands on. In short, she believes profit and success are more important than quality.

[@Mereologist]

"I tried to see what others did and now I understand how inspiring the movie is," is exactly what she didn't say. She has not been humbled. Her version is more, "The movie won awards and I want to win awards so I'm glad I'm in the remake." She wants to be worshipped.

[@sianais]

She also uses the word "cartoon" to describe it still. Most people when speaking about an animated film they adore say animated, traditionally animated, 2D, or just don't specify as a way of distancing it from a "cartoon" like Sponge Bob. She used the word before to talk down to the film and the medium as a whole. She has no respect for this film and even while pretending she can't even force herself to just call it a film. I have never heard anyone call a Disney animated movie a cartoon as a compliment, hell, people don't even call them cartoons. "Lion King is a cartoon I watched as a child," doesn't even sound like normal phrase. So its weird how it seems a part of her mind thinks of that flagship film as some old cartoon while her movie is the real "film."

[@gloweye]

It's because if she remains fully factual, then nobody can come up to her and ask her why she changed her mind. She can then just deflect without having to "take back" her previous words.

[@hope-cat4894]

​@siana3405 I didn't notice that at first, but you're onto something there! 🤔

[@jakecollin5499]

Flawed

[@wesleyhill7721]

One thing that never made sense to me from Ziegler’s perspective, how was the 37 version behind women’s role in power? The evil queen was a woman, quite clearly in charge, giving orders to the hunter (a man), and no hint of a king anywhere. Just because a woman was the bad guy doesn’t invalidate that she was the head honcho.

[@spm36]

Because people like her can't think for themselves and are used to everyone agreeing with her online

[@reikun86]

Also can't deny that the Queen was a go-getter. When the huntsman failed to kill Snow White, she went through extreme lengths to do the job herself. She was not afraid to get her hands dirty.

[@jice7074]

The queen is literally a Bossbabe, just an evil one.

[@EvilDoresh]

Your given it more thought that these people ever do. The movie is _old_ , that means it _has_ to be outdated _somehow_

[@angel_of_rust]

modern boneless feminists wish they had the fraction of the strong independent backbone of the Queen@@reikun86

[@LockedDownSpectator]

Rachel Zegler must have been a dream come true for the ideologists at Disney! A self-aware mouthpiece for their ideological schlock. This was not an act. It is who she is. We believed her the first time she showed us who she is.

[@vidmasterK1]

Did you forget what South Park taught you? Your anti woke tirades are just lame, lazy and boring. Grow up

[@RoddHarding]

Absolutely. The contempt for the legacy movies can be felt in all the current entertainment they put out. She's one of them and I appreciated her honesty.

[@LockedDownSpectator]

@@RoddHarding it's the result of living inside a feedback loop, inside a bubble inside an echo chamber that leads to this cultural vandalism. It achieves nothing. Nothing whatsoever.

[@angel_of_rust]

a self UNaware

[@scionofdorn9101]

Let us never forget that shortly after that first interview, she was out in the strike line preaching that she deserved riches for every minute she wore the costume. That moment was a clear indication that the young woman we saw in the first interview was 100% her true self. This latest interview is naught but an act of damage control.

[@PatricksCrazyPlace]

The part where she said "All of his scenes could get cut" was one of the most shockingly callous things I have ever heard.

[@nightfall902]

Well, realistically, In the original story the prince actually only shows up for the last 5 minutes or so. He wasn't in love with her, he was trying to find her because she was supposedly dead. It wasn't even a kiss that awakens her, they stumbled while carrying the glass casket and it dislodged the apple from her throat. It's really not a love story to begin with and the prince has such a small part in it. That said, you support the project, the team and especially those in your own profession, and show some gratitude to the people that provided you the opportunity in the first place. Just do the job you're paid (overpaid) to do. I don't hire a plumber to hear his thoughts on world politics. I don't care about what he thinks. I care about how well he does the job he's overcharging me to do.

[@TheEudaemonicPlague]

I just heard that Disney has removed the seven creatures and replaced them with CGI. What she doesn't understand, is that her scenes could all be cut and replaced with CGI...which would improve the film a great deal. I have trouble believing Zegler can actually act--she's too full of herself.

[@MarceloVeronezzi]

Rachel then: ( speech of women empowerment without men ) Rachel now: ( doing everything a man from Disney is telling her to do, without questions, complaints and with the tail between her legs ). The hypocrisy, backboneless and humiliation is strong here. I must concede that Disney from today, despite its flaws, is still able to awe the public: the major tweak of the new Snow White isn't having diverse and not vertically challenged people playing dwarves, but instead having no princess and two witches. Now I'm 100% sold about this movie, anxiously waiting to see what is coming next.

[@TheQuickSilver101]

Zegler's approach with this reminds me of what most toxic people do when they're called out - they make a non-apology apology. Long ago I dated a gal who did that. Most of hers included the word "but", the difference is that this is a corporate organized non-apology apology. Screw Zegler and screw Disney.

[@Sketch_Sesh]

This was Zegler’s “I’m sorry you feel that way” narcissistic non-apology

[@Mereologist]

This isn't even an apology. At no point does she express sorrow for the things she said. This is a pretense that she never said those things. It's smearing a thick layer of jam over a piece of moldy bread and hoping someone eats it.

[@leandrocastello309]

"My brother once told me that nothig that you say before the world _but_ really counts" - GoT when it was good.

[@lumskull1084]

It’s ironic to me that a movie from 1937 will be more fondly remembered then you’re modern travisty. And I agree. It’s completely PR generated because she’s done so much damage to the movie and her career before it’s even slated for release. Congratulations Rachel, you’ve played yourself

[@MB-ig6gl]

The real money is in the new special re-release of the "Original Classic", with the original negatives re-digitized and enhanced for IMAX with a follow-on special Blu-ray release. Of course for a limited time then it goes into that empty vault. Maybe even go full George Lucas and add in deleted scenes or "enhanced" background.

[@TheLanceUppercut]

All of the original movies are still more fondly remembered than these live action remakes.

[@reikun86]

@@TheLanceUppercut I actually thought to celebrate Disney's 100th anniversary, they would release more of the classics. I got to see the animated Lion King this year, but I was hoping they would re-release Sleeping Beauty.

[@syler100]

They even have to go so far to replace their diverse magical creatures to CGI pedo dwarves.

[@syler100]

​​@@TheLanceUppercutand if we think about it they could make a good movie from books or past cartoons like in the case of the LOTR. So the problem is definately with the people who do it.

[@bkblair71]

Baggage Claim said what I was thinking where Bailey seemed so genuine and thankful and then came the snapping the fingers and sashaying her head a bit when Rachel mentioned that they’re making a movie. I was like THERE IT IS. It’s like , you’re not fooling nobody. 😆

[@justinbentley567]

There’s also the prior Actor on Actor interview with Andrew Garfield that cemented her as absolutely unapologetic. She tripled down on her disdain for the audience and suggested they needed to be re-educated. Kinda kills any possibility that she genuinely feels differently now.

[@VolvoImpala]

"All of Andrew's scenes could get cut and his career could be screwed. It's Hollywood, baby. Hrr hurr hrrr!" Zegler is anything but a Hollywood star but she sure as hell has the attitude of one. What she actually is is the world' most expensive charity case ever. And that's just a fact.

[@Sandlund93]

I mean, it's Hollywood for her too. And reality has a way of crashing down sooner or later, especially on those who deserve it. Nobody wants to work with someone who disrespects her co-stars in this way. To do it privately is one thing but not publicly. She might have to fight for her career sooner than she realizes, this is a personality trait that you can't just wash away overnight. It may cause further problems down the line. You don't have anything other than your reputation in Hollywood and hers is at the bottom right now.

[@cortholiopezorama8879]

“What she actually is is the world' most expensive charity case ever.” Dylan, destroyer of Corpos, has probably been me expensive.

[@VolvoImpala]

@@cortholiopezorama8879 The question becomes is Zegler going to keep getting starring roles and is Dylan Mulvaney going to keep getting endorsements?

[@FoxtrotFleet]

I'm capable of forgiveness, but people like her are incapable of sincere remorse or change. It probably wounded her ego greatly to have to do this to attempt to save her trash career.

[@Mereologist]

Forgiveness has PREREQUISITES. You MUST admit you did wrong. You MUST stop the offending behaviour. And you MUST try to repair the damage you did. Zegler hasn't even done the first. She's pretending she never said the things she said, and now she's pretending to be a person who really loves the movie. And we can see she's pretending. And because she hasn't even acknowledged her insensitivity and misandry, and can't possibly repair the damage she done. She COULD insist that her male co-star appears. She COULD direct everyone to see the old movie first because it is a classic. But she doesn't want any of those things. She wants to be the princess and to have everyone watch her always. She's pretending to be Snow White, but she really IS the Evil Queen.

[@FoxtrotFleet]

@@Mereologist Well said.

[@SylverWWA]

Mauler's sinister laugh is pure gold! 😂

[@The_Truth_Logic]

Even while putting on the facade, a bit of who she truly is bled through in the interview. Truly representing Hollywood in its current state. The mask will never truly stay on.

[@elcambiollego]

It's so creepy, I do not understand how anyone in the PR thougth this was a good idea. Unless they want them destroyed and the most satisfactory way is to let them be.

[@johnwolf2829]

When the Ho's step out too far, the Pimp Daddy has to slap them back into line. THIS is what that looks like.

[@vidmasterK1]

Dude you have learned NOTHING from that South Park special episode last month! Hahahaha

[@vidmasterK1]

Remember South park made fun of you for acting like this and saying these things every time!

[@cortholiopezorama8879]

“When the Ho's step out too far, the Pimp Daddy has to slap them back into line.” “Oh boy. Now get out there and make me some GD money. Haha. “ ~Mickey Mouse

[@mrliteral9347]

Whatever else happens I will never get tired of "Weird! Weird..."

[@angel_of_rust]

her stupid words are ironically iconic, though it's a lot more fun when used in any context against her

[@smith1958b]

Or "That's Hollywood, baby."

[@adrianrammirez]

Rachel and Halle: “we ignore the hate!” *proceeds to discuss how they handle the hate

[@confusedashell020]

Halle is competent and got forced to tarnish her own reputation by being compared with a moronic child. Hope she got paid well.

[@Nousos]

But she never actually apologizes

[@franknilop]

OMG she can't even let Gal Gadot give a little quip, "She's not going to be save by the pri-" "*SHE'SNOTGOINGTOBESAVEDBYTHEPRINCE!!!*"

[@angel_of_rust]

Disney: ok now that's *too* redarted...

[@PsychonunBO2]

I don’t understand how we get no comments on the opening of the dialogue where zegler starts of with : ” you have the most intriguing eyes in Hollywood.” It comes out of such a left field I can’t help but to roll over laughing.

[@leonardodavi2695]

Baggage Claim makes a great point as usual. It's so nice to see such a level headed and intelectually honest woman talk about this. The whole interview reeked. There was so much deception and self aggrandizing that I couldn't notice that split second in wich Zegler's mask dropped until she pointed it out.

[@Thirteen31Music]

It’s actually amazing she hasn’t just been fired. Im not saying that out of meanness or spite but the reality is her actions/comments in those interviews have cost Disney millions of $ and they’re desperately trying to salvage this project that she has pretty much tanked all by her self. Makes you think actors should keep their personal opinions to themselves and just promote the project they’re working and follow the approved script.

[@rooramblingon895]

Except, she was likely encouraged in this terrible attitude by the very people who make the decisions on hiring and firing. They will have fed her arrogance and self-importance whilst spouting the same idiotic attitudes towards the original film. Zegler is just too self-absorbed and thick to understand she's a bit-player and being used by others. She'll have likely thought that her "opinions" were good and backed up by the executives.

[@Valen-mh9fh]

I don't think an actor that young and new will be saying those things of her own volition. She'll have been told what to say by Disney. Star power rises with popularity and experience giving some degree of independence. Might be why Tom Cruise content is quite different these days (has his own production studio too).

[@Thirteen31Music]

On the strong independent female lead stuff - yes I agree. But do you really think Disney would coach her to talk down on their legacy? To make disparaging remarks about the film that their entire business was built on? I find that highly doubtful.

[@Valen-mh9fh]

@@Thirteen31Music why do you find that doubtful? You've seen their share price, and declining box office and park receipts. I think it's more like the Joker in the Bale Batman series. It's not about the money, it's about sending a (the) message. 😂

[@rosieinwonderland8132]

I wonder what she would do if they cast her as the evil queen. I think it would be the best choice. Lol

[@Medaumplay3]

The annoying thing is that I can foresee the media and shills will refer us to that interview and say things like "Whatever do you mean? Zegler is a humble actress who is very grateful for the opportunity, and clearly loves the old cartoon", pretending that everything before this week never happened.

[@Mrcharrio]

I don't think Disney can do anything at this point that will bring my interest back.

[@aa-ze5cz]

I have zero clue why anyone is paying for anything on that dumpster fire of a Company (haven't watched a Disney show since Endgame, which I think was when all the 'women' showed up as some big statement that I was done). Not only are they overpriced, but their content absolutely sucks, and they've turned towards their Company into a political instead of an entertainment platform. Even kids are wising up to it. They are falling asleep to their content. I do very much appreciate my short position on Disney though. Thanks for making me money (directed at the morons that bought into that crap).

[@tannerhuskins330]

Yet, all we can do is watch in astonishment. Actually no, it’s not even surprising us anymore

[@Jennifer-dk1ni]

If they find a way to resurrect Walt Disney himself and put him back in charge of the company he built i may be willing to give them another chance 😂

[@Peeps7468]

I’ll be back if they start making good movies and tv shows again. I love the original Star Wars trilogy, I love the old Indiana Jones movies, I enjoyed MCU phases 1-3, and Gravity Falls and new Duck Tales are great. I’m not going to spite myself if they fire a bunch of people and return to excellence.

[@aa-ze5cz]

@@Peeps7468 I'm with ya, but given they have nothing to do with the original SW/Indian Jones and have just completely F'd them up since they bought it from Lucas, I have zero faith...

[@gavinclark9130]

Even if she was smart enough to apologize, it would be fake AF. Everyone knows her true colors now.

[@ArmyWolves]

I remember a time when businesses and public figures had the wisdom to have PR experts make statements on their behalf or guide/script responses for various situations...to avoid such issues

[@mikepostalakis]

The Mouse told her to shut her trap

[@Riskiest_Biscuit]

Baggage Claim never misses. Have her come back all the time. She's hysterical 😂😂😂

[@rooramblingon895]

💯 Just so very articulate. I wish I could express myself so well and as clearly!

[@jmoney4708]

Nah she was annoying shouldn’t be any woman on here

[@RecluseBootsy]

I hear the apology and i respectfully refute it. Eat the whole humble pie. If Carano is still problematic, so is Zegler.

[@TheEvertw]

Disney would do well to cancel all ongoing projects, fire the whole board of directors, all executives, all producers and directors, all script writers and editors, the whole HR department, then beg people who walked away ten or twenty years ago to come back to form a core company. Even if Zegler actually did apologize for disparaging the old classic, it would not cause people to go watch that new train wreck. They would literally generate more views if they just took the old Classic, do some digital restoration on it, perhaps re-record the soundtrack, some improved special effects, and show it in theaters.

[@mxvega1097]

"dripping with insincerity"- yes, Baggage Claim, totally. And the set-up, make-up, lighting, wardrobe, right down to the frkn white stockings and Audrey Hepburn styling are also comprehensive artifice. It got ratioed 2:1 on the Variety site.

[@sylance777]

So Disney releases a new Dr. Who where we're told over and over how beautiful the 'daughter' is, and now Disney is telling us now awesome and wonderful Rachel Zegler is. I said it before and I'll say it again. There. Are. Four. Lights.

[@NewCanada]

Doesn't really matter since the BBC would have done that with or without Disney. People give Disney way too much credit for modern DW. The BBC has the same politics as Disney. They don't need Disney's input on anything. They just want their money.

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

Four lights? I don't get it, sorry for my dumbness regarding this social media nonsense. What is the meaning?

[@TheMilitaryMan623]

I still think it's funny that Halle Bailey blasted a nail salon online because she was 30 minutes late to the appointment so they cancelled it. She then went online and posted she was only 5 minutes late when they cancelled and almost got the place closed down because of her tantrum xD.

[@peteinthedesert7082]

Halle and Rachel... in this "interview", best acting either girl has done! And Rachel, incredible memory of the lines that Disney forced her to say. YOU GO, GIRLS! So genuine, honest, open-minded, even a little emotional. Such bravery... 🤮🤮🤮

[@nightfall902]

What's up with Bailey? She just get out of the bath? What's with the towel? No wardrobe consultants for the interview? Wrapping herself in a bed sheet with a pretty pattern would have been more stylish. Kids :(

[@XXXX-yc6wv]

If Hollywood put half the effort into the narrative creation in their films that they put into their PR narrative creation, then they'd only have to put a fraction of the effort into the PR.

[@david_walker_esq]

When Rachel Zegler said, "we absolutely wrote a Snow White that is not going to be saved by a prince," is she suggesting that she was involved in the writing of the script? Do actors normally have such control of the movie scripts for which they're hired to perform?

[@Account.for.Comment]

It depends but for many great films and actors yes, it is not uncommon. It is a feature not a bug. Tom Cruise and Will Smith had personal writers, who are part of their contract to make changes to the scripts. Their jobs are to write the characters to show off their actors' skills, and a large part of their successes. Art films and comedy films especially, need the actors involvement. That's where improvisation in Scorsese films came from. Acting is a skill and need collaboration, can't be treated like an assembly line workers doing as their manager told. Regardless, of what you think of Ziegler, she's being involved in crafting the role made sense if she was hired on as a lead. It is not a role I'd care to see, but that's not a problem.

[@InfamyOrDeath-__-]

The most shocking thing was they actually made this movie with magical people instead of the seven dwarfs, and no one there had any idea that people would have such a bad reaction to it. The people in Hollywood actually live in a parallel universe, they’re completely detached from the rest of the world.

[@caldwellkelley3084]

The Great Actor Christopher Lee made a great speech about how Hollywood executives fail upward. George Lucas could be added to the synopsis in the fact that he explained that executives don't like movies, don't watch them, and do not understand they are an artform!

[@CleverGirlAAH]

Don't forget it's their job to re-educate us. "management is never wrong".

[@shawndixon4536]

But then there are also actors like Peter Dinklage who has been outspoken about how little people get typecast in stereotypical roles as dwarves, elves, etc., and have trouble getting regular roles.

[@user-cw3wm9lx7w]

@@shawndixon4536 but wasn’t there like no acting jobs for people like him

[@valentinlageot4101]

@@shawndixon4536 you've ever seen a t=dwarves play an elf? inclusivity in that sense is great caus ethey can't grow more and there was 7 actors which would have been the best for this role (anthropologicaly and in acting as well) to play The seven dwarves. but no instead don't give them to those men who have very few opportunities were not chosen. one time they could do discrimination without anyone getting their feathers ruffled they don't. fuck disney and their inclusive policy that is more cariable than x in an equation.

[@WesleyNiman]

"Snow White is a film. That Disney is making." That sums up the excitement I think 😂

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

And it is such a easy layup, you have nostalgia at your side, the scripts are already done... you just have to adapt to live-action and resell the same stories over and over. And Disney is screwing things up, they made a lot of money on nostalgia alone, but if the movies were actually good, they could spam sequels, like Aladdin 2 featuring the live-action cast and so on. Snow White will be a huge flop that will maybe stop these live-action adaptaitons altogether

[@WesleyNiman]

@RRRRRRRRR33 I doubt they will stop altogether.. but hopefully, their continued failure puts a damper on their future development. You're right as well.. they would have such an easy lay-up if they just copy and pasted the animated movies over to live-action. Instead, they try to recreate the stories to match their own ideals. Then it's no longer the original story that actually resognated with people.. these "filmmakers" genuinely do not understand what made the originals so great because they don't have the same fundamental morals that the movies are predicated on. As a matter of fact.. these postmodernists would rather teach you to have little, to no morals at all! That good and evil don't even exist! This is, unfortunately, what lies at the root of Disney's failure. That is also why they will more than likely never be as successful as they once were again. Daily Wire, here we come...

[@danielhaynes2373]

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[@youwebz]

Were you trying to lift Zegler’s career when you got the hernia? 😅 Hope for a quick recovery for you

[@danielhaynes2373]

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[@danielhaynes2373]

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[@joefeeney5497]

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[@nerva-]

Wow, Baggage Claim's observation about how Zegler dropped the facade at the very end and bragged that her critics are just haters while she's here as an actor promoting her movie, was new to me and says a lot about how Zegler actually learned nothing from all of this controversy.

[@hopehoping]

The script for the Zegler-Bailey act is hilarious - try counting the knee-jerk words that are scattered throughout - "gospel", "peace", "little Rachel" "baby Rachel" "that little girl" "blessings" "thanking" "my community" "crying" "burst into tears"

[@brando3342]

WAY too late for Disney lol BYE FELICIA!

[@XiaoFury]

Zegler's acting skills couldn't hide how she really felt in that haughty interview. Both of them.

[@grimcarnage4309]

Bud light can apologize all day, my hard heart will never forgive them.

[@user-nj2wp1gc3l]

One of the strangest aspects of the Rachel Zegler and Brie Larsen controversies is that neither of them even feigned interest or affection for their projects. Yet they expected the world to greet them with interest and affection. Zegler even griped about the dress she had to wear.

[@user-nj2wp1gc3l]

One of the things I was looking forward to in retirement was seeing movies and the activity was good for awhile. Then the product became so rancid and woke most of the time that I could not take it. I enjoy your commentaries. You have a following here (Southern Cal). I recently was in a healthcare facility due to an accident and one of the therapists mentioned your work!

[@creepycassette]

The problem with being “for modern audiences” is you plant your flag in a time period and when looked back on it will show its age, rather than making something universal which can stand the test of time and resonate to human spirit rather than a shifting ideology for the time it was made

[@SheldonAdama17]

Disney comes across as a needy ex girlfriend begging her ex BF to take her back after he’s found someone better

[@bryansammis998]

“ it the world wide apology tour”

[@adipauleng]

"It's like the mask slips for a moment and she's like YEAH AND I'M A MOVIE STAR" - Not for much longer, that's Hollywood baby!!

[@macmcleod1188]

Rachel Ziegler is in the same box that Amber Heard is now. I will never watch a product with her in it again.

[@giulizpaviz6381]

It remain stupid that Disney casted a non-white actress to play a character named "Snow White" and expect the audience to take this seriously (it's like they took the memes seriously). Also, Disney already has done too many fucked up things that it will take God knows how many years to gain the trust of the audience back.

[@TheKpa11]

The brand name no. But the movie titles, sure. They are truly immortal

[@EliasFinch]

You can’t be sincere in an apology when you don’t feel like you’ve done anything wrong. Ziegler doesn’t think she did anything wrong, but she’s still on the hook until the movie comes out, so she’s gonna dance Disney’s dance.

[@ythandlename]

Working in HR for Disney must be living the dream to be paid for doing nothing. No way they put this little effort into recruiting and maintaining PR. It's astounding to see the lack of professionalism and obvious holes in their attempt to damage control.

[@michaelp5476]

Please, south park do a "apology tour" episode.

[@itiswhatitis141]

where she runs from door to door with a gift basket lol

[@Guigley]

I think it is so funny how it's being called an "apology tour." The whole idea of that is hilarious.

[@cortholiopezorama8879]

“funny how it's being called an "apology tour." The whole idea of that is hilarious.” That’s one of Justin Trudeaus favourite activities. But never for things he did.

[@luigouvea]

Well, she’s an actress reading an script!

[@timwhite5562]

"she's not going to be saved by the prince, and she's not going to be dreaming of true love. If you think she's going to be likeable, you're going to have to temper your expectations because she's going to be a Hollywood's conception of a strong modern woman: absolutely insufferable. She's going to be focused on what SHE wants and what she's believes is owed to her…"

[@mrgraham5521]

I said it before..... I'll bet Rachel Zegler has no clue that Snow White was adapted from a Brothers Grimm poem written over 100 years before the cartoon.

[@tomcatbeer]

Mauler ominously giggle/laughing at Zegler during the first part of the “Snow White is now wonderful” interview is hilarious.

[@eanderson9599]

we really gonna have to go though over a year of Disney trying to repair Rachel zegler’s image Just release the movie, let it bomb, and move on

[@mitchellalexander9162]

We DO NOT FORGIVE. We DO NOT FORGET. THAT is the root problem at the Heart of this stupid decision. And far too often have we seen SJW Creatives LIE about changes they would make only push their bullshit anyway.

[@alex_linhares]

No Bud Light; No Disney. Make them pay!

[@BillThomasGuitars]

Will any reporter ever ask her about her interviews & her polar opposite comments?

[@GregTurismo]

I bet you anything she has never and will never say “I’m sorry or I apologize.”

[@theveryworstluck1894]

I hate when women try to act like men never get criticized.

[@leedesigner1977]

Love to see Baggage Claim on here, a real nice person with valid opinions like all you guys. Love watching this channel, have done for years. Cheers Will.

[@christophertaylor9100]

Always great to see Baggage Claim on the panel, she's brilliant and insightful

[@maxkozlov3901]

Drinker getting in the Christmas spirit

[@weswolever7477]

And that spirit being a fine single malt scotch

[@maxkozlov3901]

Thats the only true spirit of Christmas

[@weswolever7477]

Merry Christmas 🥃🥃

[@ClaMaRo]

Baggage Claim hits the nail on the head 👏

[@eq1373]

All Hally Barry did during that entire thing was say "yeah" like she's a member of James Brown's backup band.

[@DarkAngel459]

Drinker has too high an opinion of Halle Bailey. She may be more skilled at hiding what she thinks about old-school Disney films and fans, but she still despises everything about them, and would absolutely be against everything the Drinker stands for.

[@amandawilkinsontarot7096]

We are not buying it, Rachel. We saw what you said, how you said it, and what you wrote on X. Can somebody count the # of times she said "I, me, little me, my community". She went to the MegaLiar Markle school of speech-writing.

[@Jizzlewobbwtfcus]

If anyone didn't see how A) Disney delaying the movie for a year has NOTHING to do with reshoots and EVERYTHING to do with the hopes nobody will remember in a year and B) Doing damage control over Zegeler's mouth then people are blind. It's about as obvious as things can get. But all credit to Zegler for remaining consistent as she has transferable skills from flipping stances to flipping burgers in her next job.

[@RichtorLazlo]

Disney just used the pander stone to try and fix the pandering to all marginalized groups and realized that they do not normally need to pander to normal audiences, only the modern audiences and so now they’re trying to pander to normal audiences and try to fix the pandering that they did and using the pander to fix the pandering.

[@JoeMercersWay]

Hallee "why are my eyes so far apart" whoever she is sounds like a cat when she's saying "yeah".

[@patrickdepoortere6830]

The story is LITERALLY an instructional fable about finding the right person to fall in love with.

[@TheTurnipKing]

You can't tell me that's not relevant in 2023

[@valentinlageot4101]

I mean that's not a bad moral

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

The original fable is kinda nasty, the dwarfs raped snow white, she had a sister named "rose red" if I'm not mistaken, etc... well, "original" with quotations, these folklore are all over the place. From my perspective, the sanitized Disney version tells a story about compassion (the dwarfs didn't really need to help, but they helped anyway), the evil queen was envious, then snow white is saved by her true love (because magic)... it's a basic "love" story if you will, honestly not harmful at all. I don't remember if the prince "stalked" her or not tbh, if that's the case, well... it's weird indeed

[@SergioArellano-yd7ik]

AND Snow White was 8 years old. She slept for 10 years, she was 18 but the prince fell in love with an 18 year old in the body of a 8 year old

[@dinosaurwoman]

@BaggageClaim, THANK YOU. Every time you talk in these videos, you express exactly what I'm thinking as a geek/nerd woman. It's so nice to hear someone else is seeing what I'm seeing: this really ridiculous use of women in media and treating us as stereotypes while making us look like idiots.

[@Peeps7468]

Yessss!!! Baggage Claim is back. She’s so great and rounds out the discussion. Thanks!!

[@ggt47]

Also she never said she was wrong or apologised she just said the film was important.

[@NathanCassidy721]

Actions speak louder than words. If she is TRULY sorry for what she said, her actions going forward will shine through. Problem is Racheal is about as authentic as “food” served at Taco Bell.

[@Peeps7468]

Anyone who won’t shut up about being “authentic” is likely the last person to understand or embrace that quality.

[@NathanCassidy721]

@@Peeps7468 So you.

[@Peeps7468]

@@NathanCassidy721 no no. I didn’t mean you. I meant Rachel. Sorry I wasn’t clear

[@NathanCassidy721]

@@Peeps7468 Ah I see. My bad.

[@HowToChangeName]

This is probably the first time a movie got delayed mostly to recover the main actor public image

[@swordguy1243]

The meaning of : "getting caught in 4k" She thinks people will just forget

[@ricklugo9121]

Today's Disney is down right disgusting.

[@MaximumDiver]

Bagage Claim is an awesome addition to this podcast formula. Please bring her back again!

[@Ravensgale]

Rachel came off like Daniela Pinhead-a, and the rest of the cast came off when Netflix's Cowboy Bebop adaptation came out in that she came off as having the utmost contempt for the source material.

[@Hypershell]

The only joy I take from this is imagining how aggressive Zegler's PR re-education was. I imagine it involved a straight jacket and eyedrops.

[@Philip220]

Rachel Zeigler can get her much deserved criticism but why won’t anyone address Gal Gadot? She’s literally standing right there.

[@fobinc]

We can only roast her so much before getting bored. Like that atrocious cover of Imagine. I mostly like Gadot in F&F. Says a lot about her acting.

[@jiggycalzone8585]

Gadot had similar rhetoric but I guess she was much more graceful in her tact. And she probably knew when to shut up Meanwhile Zegler shoved herself into the spotlight and made it a defining part of the marketing

[@Sketch_Sesh]

True.. Gadot was there egging her on.. you can tell they’re both raging Fnists

[@Mereologist]

Gadot backs up Zegler, to be sure, but it does look just like backup. What would she have said if Zegler wasn't there? I criticize her for lacking the integrity to have her own voice, but I'm not sure she means it. I'm not sure she means anything. Zegler, on the other hand, was clearly speaking from the cuff and let her darkness show.

[@jaco3394]

Probably because Gal Gadot didn't trash talk the original movie. There are clips of her talking about how she watched it with the children she babysat and how much everyone loved it. The only thing she backed Zegler up in was the love story part, which is an expected Disney talking point anyway, other than that she never said anything bad about the original cartoon.

[@leebishop7591]

RZ isn't genuinely apologizing. She's protecting her wallet. I would say she's more upset that Holy-wood didn't support her arrogance.

[@CleverGirlAAH]

Her and her message is more important than anything else. It's like with the recent Jonathan Majors revelations, where he's saying His image is more important than anything for 'their people' and such... Zegler is the same kind of plant.

[@reapersaurus]

Great breakdown and points by Baggage Claim. Welcome addition to the panel.

[@eidolusgad3818]

I just watched the VHS of Snow White yesterday. Such a great watch on a VHS player with an HDMI output.

[@joebeast15]

She definitely got a talking to by some exec at Disney. She’s as genuine as black girls hair.

[@danjonmills]

Weave not seen her real hair?

[@alexedwards6509]

Disney probably said "All that stuff we told you to say, It's backfired so start using this new script" Just think of the Disney board as disgusting people and everything makes sense

[@LockedDownSpectator]

*** black girl’s non-natural hair

[@crazyralph6386]

Un-be-weavable 😂

[@bbkangs]

As a black man, this comment was hilarious 😂😂😂

[@jallison5639]

Doesn’t an apology need to contain the words “I am sorry “ or “I apologize“? Didn’t hear that

[@lordkrauser]

They never do anymore. It's never about admitting you screwed up or are deeply sorry; its about asking the people you've wronged to forgive and forget as if the responsibility is now on them.

[@seaniethemick]

always love the takes from Baggage Claim. good insight into motives.

[@davidrichardson1636]

She was sent to a Disney re-education camp, which is somewhere in China, and she graduated with acceptable grades. Not impressed.

[@MrClarkeGaber]

Not accepted. These people have told and shown us who they are, and we should all believe them. Don't give them a penny or expose your kids to product made by people that despise their fan base.