Husband Discovers His Wife Is A Mass Killer

[@jenniferburgess3109]

He told them, no one listened, and now every single one of them is dead.

[@rvouella4165]

This sounds like a line from a movie.

[@katelyn5614]

It's truly tragic that nobody took his concerns seriously. Rest in peace Charles.

[@Meme-uz5yy]

Most if not all law enforcement in Arizona is like that.

[@Greenwitch_Garden]

She was a good liar and had those cops fooled. Sucks he wasn’t believed.

[@bmbrowns1778]

@@Greenwitch_Garden She was an awful liar. She said "whatever" every sentence. any seasoned detective should immediately realize something is off

[@Lissa.]

It was so sad and unacceptable that no one would listen to her husband’s concerns and take them seriously.

[@DraxXThanos]

yeah and see how they fell for that self defense story?

[@seanbutler8818]

Welcome to a man’s world.

[@ethanogle9088]

I agree COMPLETELY! :/ it really is sad..

[@Pablo-pr4vg]

@@seanbutler8818Yep, Ironic they’re the ones who need “equal rights” though…Would’ve never got this far if it were a wife saying this about their husband.

[@seanbutler8818]

@@Pablo-pr4vg oh hell no, he would’ve been kicked out, restraining order issued, job lost, kids lost, forced to pay child support, ostracized by his peers, etc. The list goes on. All of it can be done with the snap of a finger, but to get protection from a woman you’d have a better chance pulling teeth from an alligators mouth with your bare hands.

[@PickleAllergy]

when that cop said "how does she pose a threat to the children" , I hope he remembers those words forever, especially since he didn't support the father's concern.

[@mimimomo4902]

He asked it AFTER Charles already told him that she had lost her mind.

[@foreverblessed3511]

@@mimimomo4902 why put after in capitals? your statement makes what @pickleAllergy says even more valid? ??? ??????? seems like you didnt understand the comment (even tho its simple) and then wanted to correct someone? even tho your confused? just tired of shit like this

[@mimimomo4902]

@foreverblessed3511 are you ok? The reason why I put "after" in capital is to highlight that the officer had the audacity to ask him about what threat she poses despite Charles telling him that she had lost her mind. You clearly didn't understand my comment. Next time, just ask politely

[@rockyBalboa6699]

Either that cop is laughing or crying for the rest of his miserable life! These people are paid to ignore threats to human life yet you are forbidden to even defend yourself!

[@Pandapanda004]

@@mimimomo4902pls are you Nigerian 😂. The are you ok part is to familiar

[@havyn88]

The detectives that reported it as self defence should also be charged as accessories to the children's murder.

[@t-mac1236]

People make mistakes. That’s a little extreme you think? You watched the video right. She’s a psycho but very charismatic. Had many people backing her up. If they need to lock someone up it should be someone in her family or that cult

[@WhosierDaddy]

Tell me exactly how are you going to blame someone else for that person actions?

[@havyn88]

@@WhosierDaddy If a murderer killed your family member in cold blood, then the cops ruled it self defence, then that same person came back and killed your children. Do you think the cops have nothing to do with the outcome? If they did their jobs and locked her up in the first place, wouldn't your kids still be alive?

[@WhosierDaddy]

@ Dude everyone is responsible for their own actions. So don’t try and twist the narrative and this her doing not her family.

[@havyn88]

@@WhosierDaddy Who's blaming her family, dude learn to read.

[@jj_swift2t]

Took 3 years and like 4 deaths. For justice upon something that her husband directly told law enforcement was happening

[@shaggysmokes5193]

@@waaaah5305 it’s really come to this. Women’s stories are always valued and taken into consideration more than the man’s. It’s crazy how easily women can manipulate law enforcement to take their side even when they are the shit stirrer. Through my parents divorce I learned that pretty quick

[@stevenfoster4066]

Our system of governing is ASANINE

[@Josh_you_uh]

Women get even lighter sentences in every situation…even the pedo ones.

[@jarlwhiterun7478]

The public wanted an investigation when they first heard about the husbands death and the dudes ex wife dead with "natural causes"

[@rayelee1301]

but, the patriarchy, amirite?

[@PapaJeff58]

As an ex police officer, her interview threw up red flag after red flag. Laughing and joking when your husband just got shot dead in your home. The use of “whatever” instead of actually explaining something, and no follow up by the questioner. 🚩🚩🚩

[@newsflash2691]

"Fucking excuse right" 😮

[@FreedomFighter215]

Why did they not even bring this up? That was sinister as fuck. Thank you for your service 🫡

[@Wapicker]

She doesn’t even seem traumatized by any of it during the interview. Red flag

[@aboyd1988]

Her answers, particularly her behavior, were triggering...

[@bobsbigboys]

Enough with the "blah, blah, blahs"....can the investigator get her to explain those please!!!!!

[@bonD6002]

If a woman told the police her husband was acting delusional and took the kids, they'd have arrested him the same night. This is shameful.

[@MyStupidYoutubeHandle]

This is why women are no longer going to have there word taken and it’s why the law is changing, about time. Men get lied on like it’s a game.

[@johnyepthomi892]

“Say no more” American Hero is on it

[@libangpertin161]

Can’t imagine how clowns are controlling citizens safety

[@geordiejones5618]

That's how it is as a guy. When it comes to the law, all a woman has to do is cry, so long as there isn't an immediate probable cause like them being intoxicated, and they'll get what they want. Doesn't make all women evil or any bullshit like that, it's just a clear advantage that a criminal who is a female can use.

[@Manwhocares4u]

This is America men are always guilty until proven innocent

[@Orestes728]

"My wife said she's a God and she can kill me with her powers." "So how is she a threat to your children?" Jesus Christ...

[@iNCoMpeTeNtplAyS]

Technically Jesus fault

[@steveb1972]

Wow! The legal system completely failed the husband and kids! Ffs!

[@Btobebone]

that's what happens a lot of the time when the wife goes crazy. everything is so tilted in the woman's favor, cops could stop her from trying to throw her kids I to a woodchipper, arrest her, and the next court date would be like "OK, we can move to 50/50 custody"

[@meghancass3187]

@@Btobebone Yep. Tragic but true.

[@TowGunner]

The legal system consistently fails those it’s supposed to protect.

[@rockyBalboa6699]

The funny thing is the DA only wanted to prosecute when the kids went missing not when the husband was killed! The justice system is neglecting innocent men!

[@jamesethan3749]

US legal system has only one rule: ALWAYS BELIEVE THE MOM!

[@sandcat731]

The husband tried so hard to get this sorted out. Good father, RIP

[@zivi2493]

🙏

[@christinegarcia3586]

Her giggling during interview room. Like he wasn't just killed. No remorse.

[@latonyalee7821]

If that isn't some Psycho Sh*t, I don't know what is.

[@MartoMomchilov]

in fact that she smiled when talked about charles death, speaks that she was glad to say it and feels happy from it

[@llcooljay520]

Right. I don’t know how anyone didn’t see that and immediately suspect something was up.

[@jaimhaas5170]

Pure evil psycho.

[@RyanKarolak]

Yeah, she is way too nonchalant talking about that situation. Major red flag to me

[@sling7289]

Genuinely hope no officer involved in the events leading to Charles' demise get a single solid night of sleep.

[@budoshi-f2l]

they most likey would reply : charles who ?

[@fgdj2000]

I hope more that they have learned from it and never take something like this not seriously again.

[@anthonymorales5765]

That person who assessed her mental health should have some type of accountability.

[@OkayJournayDay]

I feel like it should be possible to “remember” or know what a sane person would answer. “Did you have depressed thoughts lately?” “No” “ok”

[@stevensung7696]

No, not true the mind of humans either sane or insane can still be a murderer.

[@SeanTxty]

In these interviews she really didn't present any signs of psychosis or anything, she seemed extremely convincing and sane.

[@ifuckdasquirrel6420]

@@SeanTxty bro...she is laughing during the interviews...

[@WTF198]

​@ifuckdasquirrel6420 that's not how you diagnose psychosis

[@BoddaBingBoddaBoom]

It's chilling listening to Charles literally detail how he would be murdered to a cop who could care less. Wow

[@Ausgar-yc1yl]

Unfortunately it is not the job of the police to protect citizens from harm.

[@Urasiansuprise]

@@Ausgar-yc1yl im sorry WHAT

[@johntitorii6676]

@@Ausgar-yc1yl cop lady should be working at a coffee shop even there she would be evil

[@Ausgar-yc1yl]

@@Urasiansuprise Police are NOT obligated protect citizens from harm, that is NOT their job, and NOT what protect and serve meant.

[@Ausgar-yc1yl]

@@johntitorii6676 Agree!

[@marialanagoldsworthy8670]

This case has always frustrated me. They always believe the “pretty blonde bubbly lady” if she’s charming enough and this cost 3 people’s lives. It’s disgusting. People need to start listening to sincere cries for help. The scariest part is this brother person was brainwashed as well. Chad Daybell was one hell of a predator on weak minded people.

[@HumanityInCrisis]

She wanted famé and pomp he wanted à blonde but not the dead weight. They both were not brain washed just pure evil and selfish, using religion as a should for their corruption

[@bernieheartdragon1888]

That’s why Karens are dangerous.

[@davidu01]

​@@bernieheartdragon1888- that has nothing to do with any named "Karen".. don't adulterize a decent name.

[@maplejakee]

@@davidu01 it's a horrible name

[@Alexfrfr]

@@davidu01Karen is a horrible name lmao

[@Ristofec]

This is some of the worst police work I have ever seen. Like… shockingly bad. This entire police force needs to be under federal investigation

[@joseCalderon1976]

The husband clearly said that this woman was CRAZY, but the cops just ignored him pretty much 🤦

[@randallsmerna384]

Fathers and husbands are universally disregarded and demonized!

[@hr-hq8ji]

Being crazy isn’t a crime. But it does call for intervention and they failed that family !

[@bamboakinropo4261]

@@hr-hq8ji Well look what happened

[@TheBlazersfan22]

Well if you are black it is. White women being crazy can get away with anything.

[@TekkLuthor]

Because she's attractive to them

[@homonaledi640]

That's why men don't report cases of abuse/threats because everyone thinks its a joke

[@flower_topia]

because of how people see men and women- stereotypes are a two sided blade, this whole mindset of women being innocent and unable while men being strong and powerful has done more bad than good, and poor guys like this dont get taken seriously

[@esmeraldaweatherwaxe970]

I hear you, we have been fighting this for 100 years and we are still being told we only report abuse because we want the money... noting changes until we raise our kids better, and avoid dating monsters.

[@Doodoohead725]

Men for need to start taking each other seriously and stop undermining feelings 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@ariz7493]

You can't always tell how someone will end up. Maybe she didn't display any of these symptoms earlier in their relationships and just snapped. Some women suffer from PPD for example, and you can't necessarily "vet" that​@@esmeraldaweatherwaxe970

[@tehMaloWalo]

@@Doodoohead725we just need to all go gay and let the women fend for themselves

[@matthewscott7433]

Wait so the police don’t like that he took her purse but ignored the fact that she admitted to taking his car? Double standards, no?

[@azzajohnson2123]

Loved how the friend tapped her on the hand to sort of queue her to shut the fuck up about that.

[@arcadymorel7565]

@@azzajohnson2123 i think it was her daughter

[@azzajohnson2123]

@@arcadymorel7565 doubt it as she was open face in the video. They covered her face as they didn't want to identity that individual.

[@Fogwarrior1223]

I know I feel so bad for the dad, I hope all those cops regret this for the rest of their life

[@derp8575]

Women are treated very well for being an oppressed minority.

[@PictureHouseCinema]

How on earth did the police believe this woman? She's far too gleeful talking about domestic abuse.

[@ladysaffire4006]

Probably because she’s a nice looking blonde 🤷‍♀️

[@johnwtomkinson]

“Me too” created believe all women. Children and fathers pay the price and have no choice but live with the abuse.

[@Dis2good]

And his murder! She decided to leave the house BEFORE calling 911????

[@rottierumbles9451]

Poor guy he literally told EVERYONE that she'd threatened to murder him and they ignored him and she did it , just because she's a woman doesn't mean the threat is any less, those cops should be sued , the guy paid with his life for their apathy and indifference.

[@Hollow-ys6wj]

It’s not like they could do anything tho they took her to a psych ward and she manipulated her way out by lying truly nothing they could have done

[@tigerlancer]

On top of jj, Charles was trying to protect tylee too. tylee is such a tragic character. brainwashed since she was 3. Did her mother's bidding without question, partially responsible for at least 1 murder, maybe 2. It's hard to garner sympathy for her, yet I can't condemn her either. It just makes charles' death all the more tragic.

[@andrewmattox1233]

@@Hollow-ys6wj, The exemplifies how worthless psychology actually is. Lol.

[@dvb8637]

​@@emmelinezwollo2148she fabricated and played along with the story of the mother about the death step father in the living room. Smh. Did you even watched the vid or what?? Smh. So yes she is responsable for atleast one of the murders as well.

[@miskittt]

No. She’s a pretty blonde woman. They always get a pass.

[@TheNamsorg]

disgusting, everyone failed this man, Rest in peace Charles.

[@Queenofthegingers]

Everyone failed this man and his children.

[@nTrubl3]

Peace*

[@ronny2shoes]

He seemed like a good man who wanted his boys back. 😔 Rest in peace, Charles.

[@metamorphicme9378]

Heartbreakingly so! Men are so rarely believed, it's a shame.

[@Sun--]

Rest in peace charles

[@ArtByMeganB]

It’s so tragic seeing her daughter vouch for her, not knowing that she was the next victim

[@camron8839]

Sheep

[@johntitorii6676]

I can see the evil in her eye

[@johntitorii6676]

I'm also very successful poker player, I can read very well when ppl trying to take me for a ride

[@arrivagabry]

If she had only told the truth at police instead of covering up for her mother, that same day she signed hers and JJ's death sentence.

[@georgehill3087]

The way she lied so naturally led me to think that she's in on it as well. She had a hand in her step-dad's murder. If so, then I don't feel bad for her. But JJ definitely didn't deserve this.

[@NickSchneids]

Hearing my name as the name of the demon that possessed him was a rollercoaster of emotions

[@ByronStanley-xo9ep]

Suuuuure😅

[@mgroat7319]

Who are you possessing nowadays?

[@Euphrodyne]

BRUH 😆

[@OldSchoolDetective444]

Would the real Nick Schneider please stand up

[@skisonic]

Omg its you

[@dylanhicks8895]

Her giggling and laughing during the interview should’ve given it away

[@jacquesschrap8932]

Not to mention the amount of times she'd says "& whatever"

[@Rishi-hv4qp]

if only cops were that smart

[@Rishi-hv4qp]

cops are only smart in movies they r a joke in real life

[@heartshapeddreams4844]

It's because she knows if she remains calm it makes her look less guilty

[@waldoherrera7425]

Not just that they need evidence because how jury works is if they have any clue of who the defendant is (or else they address them a different case) and is played out by just evidence provided and if they have enough to convict her..that’s why lady justice is a thing(the saying “justice is blind”) srry I don’t make the rules..they do

[@koutsion]

I FEEL SO ANGRY WITH THIS CASE! SO ANGRY AND SAD. POOR CHARLES. THEY COMPLETELY IGNORED HIM

[@thealmightyz73]

Same 😭

[@tigerpop9850]

Real. So annoying-1

[@KLRN-qc7jp]

Use this anger and forge it into something positive. Don't get married. Go your own way. Live a long and happy, productive life. If enough of us men stop getting married, avoid relationships and cohabitation, it will have a tremendous toll on the economy and society alltogether. This is the only way that we as men can enforce anykind of change in treatment of domestic disputes by the authorities and reduce or even erase bias againts men in such cases. As it stands for now the "divorce business" is a huge economy set on draining men of their entire life-blood. Lawyers, judges, court psychologists, they all benefit from mistreatment of men. That is why the wife was not diagnosed with any disorders by the psychologist. It's not profitable. Men can be drained from their entire life savings having to pay for their own lawyers and their wife's lawyers. Women are basically encouraged to divorce their husbands, getting basically a golden parachutes, cash and prises. The only winning move in this case is not to play. Never get married.

[@jeremyg8286]

The wonderful world of being a man.

[@heaven-is-real]

thanks feminism

[@davewilson9738]

That poor husband, firstly for marrying her and secondly for no police officer believing the real danger he informed them of. Its disgusting really.

[@Isaaaa_Belle]

that's how women feel constantly

[@DarianEX]

@@Isaaaa_Belle WOW. This is about a WOMAN killing a man, and having no one believe him. Which happens often, this is not about your insecurities.

[@justadildeau]

Get help​@@Isaaaa_Belle

[@WyattOShea]

@@Isaaaa_Belle Don't you mean this is how men feel constantly instead? seeing as the law (and society) is almost always against the man in every circumstance and can be proven with statistics very easily.

[@Youknow6969able]

​@@Isaaaa_Bellethat's crazy cuz that's how you "feel" but it was his actual reality. Get a grip.

[@foreverwander0320]

A few additions-Chad’s wife Tammy was also murd€red in 2019. In June 2023 Chad was convicted and sentenced to d€ath for the murd€rs of Tylee, JJ and Tammy. Lori is scheduled to go on trial for the murd€r of Charles and the attempted murd€r of her niece’s husband Brandon (Lori’s niece joined the cu£t). In all there were 5 d€aths and 1 attempted murd€r. There are at least 2 more suspicious d€aths connected to the case. I know this story really well and it still makes me angry every time. Great job summing up a complicated case!

[@BM-dr4eu]

It really upset me that the police could have helped prevent this but they didn’t 💔

[@wickedhouston5538]

@@BM-dr4eu cops are good for nothing

[@tenenbaummark]

"She told me she would murder me" "okay how is she a threat to you?" Insanity

[@DataBattlesZ2087]

He’s asking what could she be capable of. Try and relax a little.

[@megalines8888]

​@@DataBattlesZ2087 no one truly knows what anyone is capable of so bit of a silly question then

[@JetpacksWasYes2]

​@@DataBattlesZ2087and you are a delusional tard

[@G45H3R]

She's just awful. If I ever hear "or whatever" again.....I mean how old is this woman? 14? or whatever......

[@houstoniii6841]

As a man, he should have left. That's what women do when they want to leave a relationship but not feel the guilt of being the cause of the relationship ending so they do stuff to make you leave them and if you don't this is a possibility. Never stay in a relationship for your children that's selfish and it never works

[@JStryker7]

“How does she pose a threat to your children” did you not just hear what he said?

[@bekabeka71]

90% of people don’t listen

[@Fat12219]

State lock 🔒 up 😂

[@aliciamartinez3838]

I literally thought the same thing!!!

[@kristiemiller8590]

Right?!

[@LordChromeGaming]

That is not enough reason, sadly has Lori demonstrated, people lie. Police can't just go off what one person says without seeing the other person. Otherwise, we'd be back to Salim times. It didn't help that Charles stole her purse which didn't look good on him. Then somehow, she passed the mental eval (The fuck!?). Now I wanna know why they didn't investigate why he was shot on the ground, fucking crazy. And after the autopsy, why did nobody ask why it took them 45 minutes to call 911?

[@JabsGirl]

These cops are ALWAYS REACTIVE instead of PROACTIVE! Ughhh

[@DraxXThanos]

The problem about society will just label a woman as a victim automatically, and the man as an aggressor/suspect, You could tell that man was distraught during his first and second questioning with the police.

[@JohnnyBoyBlues]

Exactly!

[@Benji-zv5ev]

Facts!

[@Devil-Made]

I hate this happened. It breaks my heart. No one is perfect, but he seemed genuinely concerned and, well, terrified. But no one took him seriously. Not one. Sure, some of the police were probably sympathetic, but had the roles been reversed you can imagine the lengths police would’ve gone to. Here there was none of that. At most it was an attitude of, “that sucks man, good luck.” Men are disposable these days. We’ve always been disposable, but it’s getting worse. This isn’t equality. This is shameful.

[@maryjane4432]

@@agentrex_adventuresthey found her competent to stand trial they didn’t say nothing was wrong with her

[@MiketheNerdRanger]

Because it's unfortunately true most of the time. But then what do you do when it's the other way around?

[@NoahW-g1y]

She saw her ex husband on the floor dead after getting shot and her first reaction was I gotta get JJ to school? like cmon this detective should’ve seen the lies from a mile away

[@Dislob]

But she's an attractive woman. She gets a free pass right?

[@bernelrichardson1752]

He is a male...aint no way a woman capable of doing wrong

[@will-zj5gq]

they just don’t make detectives like they use to.

[@CultofThings]

They overrely on their “gut” instinct.

[@jeffpenney6489]

They all failed this man. Terrible.

[@TheJonesChannel11]

Idahoan here. I cannot explain to you properly how much this woman was despised in Idaho. Talked about this incident for months after.

[@billwilson5341]

I'm guessing she's despised far beyond Idaho. Satan loves her though so... there's that.

[@thatdamhorserescue]

There's a person in these comments I've seen a few times defending her, saying they're her penpal and that she's a blessed sweet woman and innocent of any wrong doing. Blew my mind seeing that

[@TheJonesChannel11]

Based on how many murder investigations that I have read, and listen to, that's either a friend or someone who encouraged her behavior.

[@thatdamhorserescue]

@@TheJonesChannel11 I basically said the same thing to them. Telling them they're automatically suspect af. I'm a Jesus believer but never a Christian. True believers knew Jesus didn't want religion. This is part of why. That's why he spoke of false prophets. That's why he said the mass majority of his "followers" would never make into the kingdom. And ironically Roman Emporers insured that truth, by creating Christianity. The person defending her seems to legitimately believe she's in the right. Roman Empire would be so proud. Their search history is probably sickening.

[@swampraider3488]

​@@thatdamhorserescue I'm not even a Christian, I follow a different religion, but even in my religion it has been said to not get involved with frauds, weirdos and scammers. People use religion as a tool to control others, where as you said, the Kingdom is already inside everyone of us. We need to help people, to listen to people (unlike the cops in this sad case), we need to protect others. May you be blessed

[@BlakersReacts]

Something interesting I’ve noticed - when the killers are telling their side of the story, they always make little light-hearted comments in the middle of their story. For example, lorie saying “f*cking excuses, right hehe” when referring to Charles traveling for work. and her brother referring to Charles as a big dude, which seemed to take pressure off his story by making comments without any weight. I witnessed my cousin accidentally shooting him self in the face many years ago. Initially, the police had a hard time believing our stories because how could someone accidentally shoot themselves? The interrogation was protocol and they did the right thing by talking with us. I can tell you one thing, when you’re being interrogated about a death, you don’t make little giggly jokes and random comments. You say exactly what happened and you get straight to the point. The only reason one wouldn’t do that, is because they’re guilty.

[@cherry661]

You're right, my abuser ex would often laugh with cops and joke around man to man. He'd flirt and compliment with the lady cops. Usually saying something like "oh she's just on her period that's why she called" and they'd always side with him and just give him a safety order , which after he a few days He'd be back to abuse me again

[@sheli4795]

​@@cherry661This reminds me of the cops who pulled Brian Laundrie and Gabby Petito over. He joked with the cops while they held Gabby in their car and talked about charging her.

[@cherry661]

@@sheli4795 I was just thinking about this case recently. Unfortunately, charisma goes a long way - if they don't see the abuser as abusive then they don't believe you.. on the other hand, the victim could come off as defensive, aggressive, and seem rude and impolite (they probably just been battered verbally or physically and feeling a lot in the moment)... worst are female cops, they get flattered by compliments and never protect the victim!

[@cherry661]

@@sheli4795 I was just thinking about this case recently. Unfortunately, charisma goes a long way - if they don't see the abuser as abusive then they don't believe you.. on the other hand, the victim could come off as defensive, aggressive, and seem rude and impolite (they probably just been battered verbally or physically and feeling a lot in the moment)... worst are female cops, they get flattered by compliments and never protect the victim!

[@tracilovescox]

The best thing is that Charles changed his life insurance policy so she wasn’t the beneficiary. He knew he was a dead man walking😢

[@olliwest7341]

That is ABSOLUTELY weak.... You protect yourself and kids at ALL COSTS. You don't just accept that fate. That's WEAK.

[@umeriu-b1m]

@@olliwest7341 the fact you thought it was ok to comment that shows how weak you are.

[@tomasg2939]

@@olliwest7341Sounds weak as hell from you 😅

[@bryggsniccolaipegarido2446]

​@@olliwest7341what!

[@919MIG0]

@@olliwest7341 you the weakest mofo ive ever come across not even joking .. you should be embarrassed just delete that comment 😂😂😂😂😂

[@raidenpz]

She changed the locks, took the cars, money and kids - no problem. He took her purse - ya can't do that, get murdered 6 months later bozo.

[@aisthpaoitht]

The world is so messed up man. There will only be justice in heaven.

[@nostracobb4814]

then she told him shes not allowed to come to the house to see his kids in a house he bought for them

[@justincarpenter-p7i]

@@aisthpaoithtand if there’s not?

[@aisthpaoitht]

@@justincarpenter-p7i if, somehow, God did not exist, then nothing would matter anyways. Live, die, it's all the same.

[@jeremyhubert7328]

@@aisthpaoitht You don't need a "god" to have things that matter to you, who care about "afterlife" when it's the actions you take when you're alive that are important. We are biological creatures dude

[@michellekeith5602]

Police dropped the ball BIG TIME on this

[@D0-vid]

Like usual

[@olliwest7341]

They usually do. She had the gender and complexion for the protection.

[@BraveNewWorld76]

@@olliwest7341or she could have just been a master manipulator. Don’t understand why some of you have such a knee jerk reaction when it comes to someone’s gender and race. Where is she now? In prison serving 5 consecutive life sentences. Her complexion really helped her out in the end, didn’t it? 🤦‍♂️

[@JustinCredible31]

@@BraveNewWorld76 Swing and miss with this comment. The point being, this was ALL preventable if authorities took the threats seriously. Sure she's serving time now, AFTER the fact. She had the luxury of being a female and falsely claiming DV to discredit her husbands concerns. I guess it took 3 years and 4 people to dead before someone considered her a real threat.

[@tymondcrawford6967]

Spot on dude ​@@JustinCredible31

[@IPoopNaked]

Having the ability to laugh and light heartedly make fun of your now dead husband is PYSCHOTIC!

[@skywalk3x]

Those detectives were gullible. The woman kept laughing as she described how her husband was killed. He grabbed a bat from his stepdaughter to stop her from hitting him, and then he’s grabbed from behind from an uncle who is fighting him. Then uncle gets a gun from upstairs, comes downstairs and kills him and it’s selfdefense.

[@reapertypemoon8464]

Yeah and the uncle even told a different story. He said he walked in and saw Charles with the bat and didn’t do anything and went to go get his gun... Yet the girls said he came in and put him in a chokehold

[@Techuser704]

I dont know but I felt something off about all this. Like weird and illogical ,the women also belonged to a cult didnt she? It was like everything had some type of interference. I mean what if all the cops and the people in that town were actually cult members? The husband used to go for long business trips so he didnot got affected.

[@jurj97]

​@@Techuser704this isn't a creepypasta, homie

[@Techuser704]

@@jurj97 idk this stuff happens in irl creepypasta are inspired from real life afterall

[@jenniferpierce8087]

The doctor who passed her on a mental evaluation should be held accountable too.

[@lanceandrew1319]

kids: *got kidnapped cop: "Where's the threat tho????"

[@scottporter4524]

Shocker

[@Grace-bk2nz]

that’s phoenix police for ya

[@MikeWallace-r3x]

"she thinks she's the second coming of Christ" "Ok so what makes her psychotic?"

[@Editnamehere]

@@Grace-bk2nzGilbert

[@shakespeareaholic]

Cop just doesn't know about her super powers

[@tikka300wsm5]

Husband: She threatened to murder me. Cop: How is she a threat to your kids?

[@Moofie-rc5dd]

its a valid question. maybe guy was lying and he was the one making threat. cops can't take chances

[@insaneyogurt4993]

@@Moofie-rc5ddnot really valid tho that’s contradictory, if you can’t trust the first reason why tf would naming more mean anything? It could all be chalked up to a possible lie, and what how many does he need to say? 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@TheMonsterguy411]

@@Moofie-rc5ddreally, they seem to always take a chance on the murderers part and victims seem to always end up paying with their lives… cops are utterly (for the most part) useless!

[@NavyCobain]

@Moofie-rc5dd it obviously wasn't valid because they didn't do doodoo

[@echopeakbicycling85]

As if women couldn't be a threat to their children. I know.

[@SuperTurbocoupe]

"I don't want to put words into your mouth..." then proceeds to put words into her mouth. What horrible police work.

[@kdfulton3152]

Those AZ Cops have Charles and the kids blood on their hands! If they had believed him or tried to help him, maybe those kids and Tammy and Charles would still be alive. Men need domestic protection too. In fact Charles family should sue the department. Absolutely.

[@reginagilby1101]

And the doctor who released her in two hours

[@ACVRG1]

Chandler and Mesa PD are notorious for being some of the shittiest departments in Arizona

[@PickleAllergy]

they have a small part in it not preventing it, yes. But in reality, that female and her psychopathic friends are responsible.

[@patmurdie]

I don’t think the cops are the problem. Lori and her convincing lies were the problem. My heart goes out to Charles, those beautiful kids and much later, to Tammy.

[@yhonleilukyemyhonleilukyem2328]

It's the duty of cops to investigate who's telling the truth and who's lying. Not just to Randomly pull over people on the STREETS in the name of traffic stopped or FALSE over speeding and make false accusations and Harrassed the innocent civilians. A HUGE FUC*K FOR THE AZ POLICE. LOL...😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😊😊😊😊😊😊😢😢😢😢😢😂😂😂😂

[@africa_everyday]

Shame on the detectives. They are a disgrace to America

[@KrisPBacon-ts6vp]

Imagine how many murderers have gotten away

[@BlaqueHaze]

Disgrace to the human race.

[@tiswhatitis137]

​@@KrisPBacon-ts6vpMany. Imagine how many there were before the technology to catch them.

[@ghazi6140]

America is a disgrace to the world.

[@Moofie-rc5dd]

lol

[@AnnaWhite-l2x]

That poor husband . I feel so bad he lost his life trying to save his kids. This is so sick.

[@BlackSheep_216]

Cops see a halfway decent looking woman and get tunnel vision. Men get screwed. Not believed and stalked by police over false accusations. They don't care. Cops are evil.

[@danielwalker7269]

She’s awfully light hearted and laughing during that interview after he got killed

[@alexdaman.]

14 year marriage and this woman is smiling and acting giddy after dude is killed. Zero remorse, zero empathy for the kids. Psycho.

[@KenKaniff-dw4jw]

And cops don't see she lying

[@ProbablyTooLoud]

If you know, you know.

[@noname-ve7wo]

She could've left and found another man to take care of her and the kids wouldn't need that feeling of hope everytime they see her. Just friggin leave and don't look back

[@ncdozer3103]

@@KenKaniff-dw4jwThat’s cause the cops were getting head from her

[@HISIAM888RUHIS888]

She’s a Psychopath!!!

[@mrhamzah18]

I can’t believe this is true! Crazy lady! No one listened to the poor husband and now he and his children are dead!

[@SRose-vp6ew]

She was crazy that she was listening to demons. Her husband said she was constantly talking to an angel. There are fallen angels. If the spirit you’re talking to is telling you to murder, lie, or that Jesus isn’t God or self harm is how you get to God your the one listening to demons and it’s literally the anti-Christ spirit that’s got you, but the person doesn’t need to die to have a demon cast out of them. But people absolutely can be demonized. The fruit of lies and murder show she was demonized and lacked faith that Jesus (Mark 16) would be enough.

[@jamielehman4934]

I can't feel sorry for Tylee because you can tell she was initially in on Charles murder. But I do for JJ

[@mrhamzah18]

Yes I see your point but she was only young and probably believed all the lies her mother had filled her head with. She managed to convince the police and a psychiatrist she was absolutely fine, no mention of her thinking she was a goddess and all the other crazy stuff! She didn’t deserve to be killed by her own mother. The whole story is just crazy!

[@lauren88michelle]

@@jamielehman4934are you really victim blaming?? 😢

[@heidismith3112]

My goodness what terrible replies . Lori and Chad are responsible for the deaths of two innocent children, her husband, Chad's wife, and her brother Alex Cox turned up dead as well when they didn't need him anymore. Saying you don't feel sorry for a murdered girl? What a worthless comment. Nobody needs your nonexistent sympathy. You should feel sorry for your empty self.

[@jordonlebrun4501]

If the roles were reversed and the wife was expressing her concerns to the police about the husband, this whole situation would have gone differently. The wife is clearly a complete psychopath. How can you believe someone who uses the word "Whatever" to describe everything?

[@meghancass3187]

Thank you. Finally.

[@mikewhite3123]

Facts... As many times as he had to call them to enforce court orders,she should have been arrested every time she didn't comply with the order... Then they extort the man about her purse and then they'll enforce the 5150,just ridiculous... He's the only one with court evidence to back up what he says,and her having zero calls to police about him supposedly being violent .. women who have violent husbands always call the cops at least once,even if they're dumb enough to stay...

[@CounterSniper67]

@@mikewhite3123 Yup, weird how the cops tell him he can't take her purse yet she openly bragged about locking him out of his own home and taking all of his stuff, including his car. wtf.

[@hucklebuckchuck7218]

Literally, everybody involved in this case could still be alive, but due to negligence stupid people who work for the police and the courts three people are already dead. The brother killed himself, because he knew that he was going to jail for life and Laurie and that guy are going to go to jail for life like it’s very obvious that the shooting wasn’t in self-defense as far as the brother goes. He literally ran into a room, then ran back out and then shot Charles, that’s not self-defense

[@2011blueman]

And she was giggling throughout the interview. Remember the context, her husband had just been murdered in front of her by her brother, after which she just takes the kids to school. She's so nonchalant in telling the story and casually giggling throughout the interview thati's supper creepy and abnormal behavior for that situation. She has no signs of shock, or grief, or any emotion really. It's a true textbook example of a psychopath and instead of recognizing the behavior as strange the detective was charmed by her.

[@zoraplays1009]

The system failed that man

[@bigj1905]

Her entire interview with the detective was so eye raising to me. How much she comments on how bad of a husband he was. The constant attacks on his character. How her kids can’t stand him. How she seems almost happy that he’s gone. So many red flags, so little time.

[@swdutch]

That female COP doing the interview is Horrible !!!! She needs to be back on patrol - she is leading the conversation & guiding it in the direction of innocence and knows nothing of reading body language

[@goromarimba]

I thought the same. Her entire demeanor and narration of events is terrifyingly cold, as if Charles' death wasn't even an inconvenience.

[@GeraldofRiverdale]

Nah. If she can't handle a police interview without being biased then she doesn't have the mindset to wield any power at all.

[@aaa-hs3it]

You people do realize acting like this makes the suspect more comfortable and open to talking about subjects they normally wouldn't? It gets them to lie and deceive and opens the case up more to the jury keep trying to assume things about random people you don't know when clearly you know nothing about it yourself

[@robcall5182]

Yep, " Not to put words in your mouth" then proceeds to constantly put words in her mouth. Terrible

[@gregshell8570]

Is the "doctor" going to be evaluated for his incompetence?

[@Urasiansuprise]

i didnt think about that

[@matfax]

Of course not. They never are.

[@justsaying4313]

22:51 to 22:54 vibrations. They use gaateewaay process. *It is very dangerous, so do not try it even if you can*

[@justsaying4313]

They are not crazy. Evil spirit deceive them

[@pick2206]

she can act normal if she wants, the doctor saw what she wanted him to see, not the doctors fault she's a good liar

[@billbill6094]

She had her daughter Tylee lie so that the death of her father who was trying to keep Tylee alive would go unpunished and his name would be sullied forever. Then she killed that same daughter exactly as the dad feared, but in an exceedingly cruel and sadistic way. Twisted.

[@thisismyinferno]

Charles deserves justice. He fought so hard and was failed.

[@JayKayHere64]

Having an ex wife that is currently in a state psychiatric forensics hospital after pleading insanity for beating up her 5 year old son and throwing him outside naked in January when it was 7 degrees outside (her first 3 felony child abuse charges that were dropped were with my children), this story does not surprise me all that much. Fortunately, I finally received custody of our children a few years before when she was arrested over 1000 miles and 5 states away with our children. Yeah, I feared for my life at times (bring over 250 straight text messages from her without a response from myself along with many social media posts about me to the Sheriff's Dept and they do nothing) and the wellbeing of our children, but you can only do so much when all the agents of the state favor the mother until it gets so bad they cannot ignore it.

[@Wazooka]

So sorry to read that! I hope you can all heal from this and live a good life without her. ❤

[@kingcosworth2643]

Yeah, the system is a damn mess when it comes to family and custody matters

[@SaintShion]

Its sad to see, real fathers who want to protect their children are just tossed aside to run in circles in the justice system. Even though someone is a technically a mother doesnt mean they care about their child sadly. DCS/CPS are extremely incompetent and lazy imo. Sometimes it feels like they want abusers to win.

[@DataBattlesZ2087]

Make a video, no one is reading your life story here…

[@Wazooka]

@DataBattlesZ2087 i did

[@andrew2388]

"she's threatening to murder us!" .... cop: "uhhhhh so how does she pose a threat to your children?"

[@Moofie-rc5dd]

its a valid question. maybe guy was lying and he was the one making threat. cops can't take chances

[@1dan349]

​@Moofie-rc5dd how is that a valid question smh people like u become cops

[@Moofie-rc5dd]

@@1dan349 you clearly don't see the whole picture

[@Partart3160]

@@Moofie-rc5ddshut up. Your 2 brain cells are fighting for third place.

[@Moofie-rc5dd]

@@Partart3160 be careful wat u say or bad happen

[@clay3205]

Those cops have Charles Vallow's blood on their hands. 100%.

[@ofthemoon.]

Yes, they do :(

[@saturninesmile9580]

No it's the hospitals. The cops took her after the commitment papers and she was in the station. The hospital let her go in 2 hrs. And custody is with the courts but dunno if he went there at all, even to petition for emergency custody. To everyone talking to her she seemed normal. We have hindsite. until she let her beliefs became known to those not in a close circle, she was a women going through a divorce with a man trying to make her look nuts. Esp since the daughter backed her. Words are words they don't have authority to do anything unless followed with actions. Which is unfortunate.

[@ZeranZeran]

@@saturninesmile9580 It's definitely the cops too

[@fareemvenosa3774]

​@saturninesmile9580 I'm guessing the fact she giggled all the way through the interview (after her husbands death) - I guess that went right over your head,,huh ?

[@cobaltjay9862]

@@saturninesmile9580the cops didn’t even want to entertain the possibility that she was in the wrong, watch the initial interrogation of her brother, herself, and the daughter, the story was so inconsistent and they just wrote it off as self defense

[@averagebeastt3606]

I want every Father out there watching this to know that this is the system for you. It's built and designed to give women every chance they can get with parental needs. Soon as she decides she wants to leave with the kids, there's nothing you can legally do about it.

[@papadhmitrioy8070]

Guy: "She threatens to kill me with her powers thinking im not Charles" Police: "So how does she pose a threat to your children?"

[@nguyenjohnny9423]

The most braindead cop ever

[@blackstar-fh1ck]

Heard joke once: Man goes to doctor. Says he's depressed. Says life seems harsh and cruel. Says he feels all alone in a threatening world where what lies ahead is vague and uncertain. Doctor says, "Treatment is simple. Great clown Pagliacci is in town tonight. Go and see him. That should pick you up." Man bursts into tears. Says, "But doctor...I am Pagliacci.

[@blackstar-fh1ck]

Welcome to a man life where everything is a joke

[@duaneayers6117]

Charles with his two kids would be alive today if the police would of taken his words seriously. A normal person would of looked into it.

[@andy.hello.6602]

The psychiatrist who diagnosed her as ok was an epic failure.

[@justarandomname420]

They all are epic failures.

[@mufasta9699]

Unfortunately she’s psychotic, but she also had a thing where she was very manipulative, and her words without proper context kinda made it seem like she was normal. A Psychiatrist can only do so much and isn’t going to force treatment on someone who appears lucid, and potentially could come after his license for kidnapping for keeping a lucid individual in his care (of course she was psychotic but still)

[@promotechs2540]

@@mufasta9699 so a psychiatrist does not have the skills to tell if someone is a potential psycho?

[@LilyR-sd1lt]

Probably an indictment of the American condition, the average American is on some kind of prescribed drug , the psychiatrists can' no more tell the subtle differences. @@promotechs2540

[@mufasta9699]

@ a psychiatrist is human, they aren’t going to see inside our minds to tell us our deepest darkest mental secrets. Keeping someone against their wishes that doesn’t pose an obvious threat at the specific moment can’t be institutionalized or hospitalized by anyone, be it a physical nor a mental hospital. Heck you could have delusions but if you say that you don’t want to kill or hurt yourself or anyone, and you seem lucid enough to follow through with that statement, you as a doctor, especially in America have an obligation to let them go. Keeping them otherwise will get you accused of medical kidnapping. It’s the same way I can’t force a hospital to keep my mum who’s going to drink herself to death, she poses a danger to herself, but she voices no intent of harm on herself and other, and she is able to think enough that she says she doesn’t need treatment.

[@profan10]

She was smiling and smirking during the interview. It was obvious she wanted it to happen.

[@gibbyjibby0]

There are FAR too many cases of police not taking someone’s concerns seriously and it ending in tragedy.

[@joshbannink1312]

To be fair, I’ve seen plenty of cases where criminals claim such stupid stuff to attempt to get to police to do something in their favor, not to mention the amount of people they probably come across that simply are not of sound mind, you can’t believe everything someone tells you, there wold be a ton more wrongful arrests more than then there already are

[@casandrala8370]

And way too many stories of someone calling for help and the police show up and kill the person that called for help

[@LilacMoon-s5d]

@@casandrala8370 that hardly ever happens if you’d actually do some research and didn’t just listen to what every other idiot tells you. what are you even yapping about 😂

[@fmrscout33]

monsters come in all forms. This is a sad example of that... He TRIED to raise the alarm, but was ignored because of preconceived notions of who the monster usually is.

[@vincenthammons-kd9du]

women are just as prone to being monsters but everyone underestimates them so they get away with a lot more

[@josephbickerton1506]

It's usually women

[@susanrodriquez3757]

@@josephbickerton1506Men are much more likely to be violent offenders overall. When Vvomen abuse it’s often covert or violence by proxy. Both sexes can be monsters but men tend to be more direct. In a sense this can make vvomen more dangerous under western laws especially where vvomen are believed more than men when it comes to violence like in this case here when the cops failed this poor man and his children. Make no mistake though it’s simply not true that only one sex is the monster. We simply should take men more seriously when they complain about the dangers a Vvoman might be to them or their children. That is the major problem. The justice system failed this man and his kids for very obvious reasons.

[@MASTERninja23z]

It can be anyone. ​@@josephbickerton1506

[@smitty347]

@@josephbickerton1506 No it's not dude. In this case it was, but violent crime is mostly done by men. Not average men obviously, but men all the same.

[@OMGPWNTATOECHIPZ]

Men in the US are second class citizens when it comes to family matters. RIP Charles, you tried to save everyone the best you could.

[@williejcullen]

The system is designed that way if men won who would pay. The war on men is being won because a tiny minority of violent cowards get away with beating their partners and the rest of us are deemed like them.

[@JBJHonez]

You got that right. Flip the script and he would have been arrested years ago.

[@abesview5855]

At the end of the day this is the price we pay as men that are TO NICE. He wanted to help her to much and support her to much! Instead of kicking her to the curb and letting her be crazy on her own. She clearly already convinced the kids to hate the husband as well. The father should’ve just left and never came back this women is bat shit crazy and she ruined his life. If you have a son make sure he is not attracted to CRAZY women.

[@JULi3T16]

@@abesview5855 This didn't happen because he was too nice. This happened because she was evil. There's never a reason to NOT be nice. EVER.

[@JULi3T16]

Not only men, also women & children. The US is a third world country. None of its citizens are actually taken care off.

[@darinroberts]

The family should be puttin out some lawsuits because there’s alot of neglected duty going on here…

[@deannag48]

Charles in that video totally breaks my heart. He knew what was going on. The authorities appeared to NOT TAKE CHARLES SERIOUSLY.... God bless Charles RIP🙏

[@FilmSpook]

🙏🏾 Indeed. Thank you for your compassion.

[@patienced4320]

This has to be the sloppiest police work omg 😳 Hit in the head with a bat?? Where’s the bruise??! This is crazy lol

[@TheGrmany69]

That's what I say. These women can lie and they believe them.

[@SO-xi6vm]

@@TheGrmany69facts 😢

[@naejaihjeanbaptiste7639]

@@TheGrmany69 I just said that women definitely get off easier than men that’s sad

[@TheodoreBakes]

My first thought!!

[@mrgraham5521]

I think she left so she could coach her daughter on what to tell the police. Not to drop JJ off at school. They set the step-dad in for sure.

[@HandsomeManNamedTony]

I fucking hate the double standards in this country. Fuck the system.

[@shawndashno6022]

Which system? There's a lot of little systems that run through, and make up, the entire system. In this case, for example, the investigative system, completely failed them. Had they dug deeper, they would have seen the reality of her mental state. The police just didn't care enough to take Charles seriously. Damn shame.

[@TheotherLumbergh]

It will never be fixed brother. We are the bottom of the barrel and are still being told we are too much in control. It relates to race as well. We are always walking on eggshells and must remain civilized.

[@deidrejames2515]

As a white woman in the US, you're given the benefit of doubt, but just imagine all these circumstances with the characters being black. Police would've reacted differently from the beginning. This is how bias and racism can affect the outcomes.

[@RestWell1]

The system yt people created, you hate it? Say it ain’t so 😂😂😂

[@bdbyt6835]

​@@RestWell1 are they a hive mind? Do all people of the same race think the same? Get Canadian Healthcare loser.

[@VillaSpark_grower]

It’s crazy how the police treated Charles like he was a criminal all along while it was him trying to make sure his kids were ok. Just brilliant police work 🤦‍♂️

[@jord_e_96]

Her laughing throughout the entire questioning is so telling. Her body language says it all.

[@dansw58]

Duping delight it's called. Guilty suspects often laugh or smile a lot in interviews.

[@randall5166]

Reminds me of kamala Harris. Always laughing and lying

[@jkryanspark]

@@randall5166 I take it you're a MAGA shitgibbon? Just asking.

[@hitleradolf7635]

@@randall5166she actually looks like a white kamala harris

[@gabriellef]

@@randall5166reminds me of all politicians lol. All of them lie, not just the ones you don’t like

[@Gary-And-His-Demons]

Wow the cops really fkd this one up! They weren't even trying to take the husband seriously.

[@Fonzi0]

"he didnt want to divorce" as hes the one who filed for it 🤥

[@ProblemFreePhilosophy]

You’re just not all there…

[@Fonzi0]

@@ProblemFreePhilosophy I guess🤷🏽‍♂️

[@ProblemFreePhilosophy]

@@Fonzi0 she went nuts, what choice did he have other than divorce. He still could love the person he married not the person she became. Your just not smart enough to understand that.🤔

[@IncreasedIQ]

THE DOCTOR LET HER OUT AFTER AN EVALUATION, wtf kinda evaluation was that

[@SoHappy1215]

Suburban mom eval. In my experience they are usually the most vile

[@carmenm.478]

Evaluation from hell!! Everyone failed Charles and the children. Because of shits and giggles.

[@ronny2shoes]

@SoHappy1215 No they’re not. The dark ones are usually the worst ones.

[@dundergud9341]

She was surely interviewed by a doctor, and if she didn't show signs of acute psychosis requiring immediate hospitalisation, then the only option would be to release her. Maybe they did find something but only wanted to follow up and treat, because she managed to hid the acute and extreme severity of it. Look at that first interview with the police when she has her daughter with her. She seems pretty normal there, doesn't she? If she was like that with the doctor, then that would be the answer why she wasn't forcibly hospitalised.

[@meganod279]

The thing is, we expect doctors to be able to understand someone who is a psychopath but the issue is, psychopaths are smart and manipulative. They can adjust in any situation and make it seem like they are the best and most innocent people.

[@lane2376]

So wild they didn't keep her for a full 72-hour hold. You can't always determine someone's mental state that quickly.

[@randomflagg7331]

i use to respect psychiatrists for the length of school they went through. but damn if they aren't bending over backwards to appease their female clients. i still remember amber heard abusing johnny in that session and the female marriage counselor that she selected came to the conclusion that the abuse had to be mutual because johnny wasn't participating.

[@elithasim]

I told my mom “i wish i was never born” and stuck me in the hospital. They MADE me stay for 15 days. I had no say. I lost all respect for my mom that day and was frustrated with the staff because they treated me like I was an actual suicidal threat but i had no choice but to spend all 15 days. Yes, I was a minor, but my aunt did the same with my cousin weeks back. Shes 25 with 3 kids. She had her taken in and they MADE her stay a minimum of 5 days.

[@JimboBillyBob]

@@randomflagg7331 Psychiatrists still have to obey the law, if they hold that person for no reason they face consequences, and the lady clearly puts up an excellent front, don't be so obtuse and stupid because you all of a sudden believe you're smarter than you are.

[@amell.5461]

She's a "pretty" woman and the psychiatrist was a man. That's also why the police didn't suspect her either. Her ex looked like the crazy one trying to cause her custody issues after she left him. It's sad but many women use their looks to get away with anything and it works.

[@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070]

@@amell.5461That's absolutely why the police ignored all those signs, however she does seem sane and normal in her interviews other than the religious stuff so it would make sense for a psych to say she's not insane. Regardless, they only had a couple hours and you don't know what went down in that room. Stop making assumptions, it very well could've happened to you if you were the psych as well.

[@mikewhite3123]

She is literwlly making up the entire story in the interrogation room,and these cops just go "ok" lol

[@kevinklassen4328]

None of the stories of those 3 lined up. And why was her brother not charged with murder?

[@Keeshiepooo]

And the lady that comes in later tells them what the husband said and now it makes sense

[@zanza3762]

@@kevinklassen4328she killed him too dummy

[@mumo9413]

I had a very similar situation UK 25yrs ago! Threatened with murder by newly extremist cult evangelical husband who thought he was a prophet, the kids(3 & 4yrs old) & I were apparently demons! No time to wait for the courts, I packed what I could & ran with my kids to safety, 5hrs drive away! Got us safe, courts came later! In police interview he only said "I do not recall!" As, soon as police were getting too close, exposing him, he withdrew the contact application! 3wks later he tried but, failed to abduct the children from their new school! In the UK absent parents are allowed school & medical reports! This vial excuse for a woman is like his clone! I'm sitting here feeling re-traumatised yet grateful that I ran! This is a repeat of history! Terrible, beyond abhorrent!

[@xen0bia]

This story should be updated, because, as of pretty recently, Chad Daybell was sentenced to death for the murder of his first wife Tammy Daybell, which was another victim of this sordid plot (she was killed just a few weeks before he and Lori got married...), and Lori's two children, JJ and Tylee.

[@geezjunior]

Thanks for the update

[@keithrickson8522]

One thing I've discovered is that it's very hard, if not impossible, for psycopathic people to fake empathy. They can cry, but ONLY for themselves, never for others. When someone like this is in good spirits directly after the death of someone close to them, it's only because they are not caught yet. Once they are caught, the tears will come, but never before.

[@Al-Wala_Wal-Bara]

facts even if you really really hated your husband if they died and you had kids with them you'd at least feel SOMETHING along the lines of sadness since its someone you loved and had kids with

[@FriscoLexusBabe415]

Men are abused and everyone turns a blind eye. This is heart wrenching, I can’t even finish it. I hope the sweet ladies in prison show her how evil she is.

[@rcdudes3475]

Trust me ik they believe anything they say. Had to move out

[@Al-Wala_Wal-Bara]

the ladies prison wont let her go thats for sure. Most are mothers who miss their kids. It's nice to know prisons men and women dont fuck about when it comes to kids

[@bjfontana5760]

@@Al-Wala_Wal-Bara She's likely in solitary confinement. For her own 'protection' [Serious eye roll!] :(

[@jordancardenas8555]

“He offered to buy me a house near my family”… and in the same 10 sec frame “ he’s always working and traveling but it’s just an excuse that gives him freedom”… how tf he supposed to pay for sh*t

[@laylaistheonlyone]

When the brother said, “He hit me in the head with the bat.” They should have asked for an x-ray. Also, the lady in the interview room was acting like her friend, not a detective. ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?

[@trillianca5666]

Not sure what an X-ray would have proved there. They checked him out while interviewing him and saw markings on his neck that corroborated his statement. I do agree with the interview opinion though. She kept affirming to the interviewer while she was taking which is a good sign to show she wasn’t telling the truth but wanted to make sure the cop was buying it.

[@myrastevens7098]

You get hit in the head with a bat; it's gonna leave a mark. All he had was a tiny scratch, and nobody questioned it?! Unbelievable.

[@EricHessler1]

"AN X-RAY" you're supposed to add a N when it's followed by a consenent. "a x-ray" is improper language and poor grammar 😢

[@lordrao1793]

@EricHesslee-mm9lm 😂😂😂 You’re the “me” that I don’t have time for.

[@shootaboy61]

@@EricHessler1 Nobody fucking cares. Stop being an weirdo loser over internet grammer.

[@Fun.Guy.Forager]

She laughed when she said her daughter hates him like she is proud of the monster she created.

[@spyder2374]

Taylee was the dumbest of all ...🙌

[@Theegoaat]

@@spyder2374she was definitely groomed by that evil witch mother. So is her brother also in jail?

[@bmario7832]

​@@Theegoaather brother got killed by her as well.

[@girumzemichael704]

@@spyder2374She was a CHILD who lived all her life with this crazy woman who was able to fool lots of adults including law enforcement.

[@nemesisbreakz]

There's a bunch of weirdos out there. Be safe y'all.

[@jedimindtrick-pi8xe]

Yep and never ignore the red flags.

[@Hoodicaat]

“Weirdo” is a heavy understatement

[@bordstif84]

Especially those democrats.

[@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman]

especially when you add religion into the mix

[@rookere1604]

Especially in America with your religious freaks

[@jeffreydoherty844]

Another successful police investigation. Great job guys.

[@EE33339]

Cops treated him like he was crazy I blame law enforcement for his death and the children they were given multiple chances to intervene and did NOTHING. Just because you’re Incapable of understanding doesn’t mean it’s not to be taken seriously. Gilbert Police department should be held accountable 👍.

[@braxtonvestal777]

End qualified immunity this has been happening for years nothing ever changes thats the only chance for change.

[@EE33339]

@@braxtonvestal777 haven’t heard about that will definitely look into it!

[@Al-Wala_Wal-Bara]

not both children only Tylee, JJ wasnt interviewed. Tylee legit aided and abetted the murder of her own father and covered it up

[@EE33339]

@@Al-Wala_Wal-Bara she was an innocent child in fear of her own survival what’s your point

[@zanza3762]

@@EE33339his point is that at 16 you aren’t completely stupid. She decided to lie for her mother. She knew what she was doing probably

[@caniborrowapencil5160]

I can’t help but feeling that competent detectives would have picked apart her story in seconds.

[@aledhughes3609]

The police didn't have the luxury of the title to this video. Think about it.

[@bigboy5978]

@@aledhughes3609but there’s like a bajillion red flags in her story. There’s a comment from a former police officer in the comments who explains just how many red flags there are. She was LAUGHING after her ex husband died.

[@HispanicInches]

@@aledhughes3609they had all the foreshadows

[@ACoKyo]

@@aledhughes3609 they didn't need it....The holes in her story are rampant. Police incompetence was a major factor

[@Pr3nom3rcy]

Tired of society thinking women can’t be monsters smh

[@rogeliogonzalez2958]

White women

[@allaboutuful]

yeah, but really it because of records. most criminals are men. Much. At least in Southeast Asia. May be western countries have diffrnt statistic? idk

[@Senorzilchnzero]

Ofcourse they are. Look at divorce cases. HOW the fux is alminony still a thing in 2024? How the fux is child support still a thing in 2024? Women are taking 50k a month payments on their husbands and using that money all on themselves and the government turns thier head the other way. The whole system is broken. You're all living in a synthetic world thats made to look like something it aint.

[@Philosophised]

@@allaboutuful you literally proved his statement

[@jxmar_]

@@rogeliogonzalez2958this isn’t about race…🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@knicole1213]

3:25 who else thought the narrator was going to say “The everlasting gobstopper” 😂

[@CV47Deagle]

What a joke of a system we have 🤦‍♂️

[@macdonaldibe4667]

Towards men only.

[@LilacMoon-s5d]

@@macdonaldibe4667 unless you’re an elite. Then you don’t have to be responsible for anything. It makes no sense that the government is still primarily men, yet men are treated lower in many aspects. What happened there??

[@alexxisdanyale2179]

Its so sad that he warned the police that she was going to kill him and that she was a threat to their kids too, and they didn't listen. He tried to get their help 3 times and all that was done was the mental health evaluation from lori.

[@farzana6676]

The problem is this women is so smart. She even tricked the interrogators into thinking her husband was killed in self defense. 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫 She was super manipulative and even the psychiatrist didn't find anything wrong.

[@Basbhat]

@@farzana6676Cops are supposed to be taught techniques to not fall for that type of manipulation. They should be held to a higher standard, especially when someone is murdered. They botched this big time.

[@farzana6676]

@Basbhat Trained professional psychiatrist are also trained but they also judged nothing wrong with her mental state. 😂

[@Basbhat]

@@farzana6676 😂😂 You’re right lol That’s even more pathetic lol

[@vmb371]

Her ex-husband has just been shot dead in front of her a coouple hours ago and she's making jokes? The feminist interrogator pretty much discarded the possibility of a woman being guilty of anything and was looking for ways to blame the man. I don't see any other possible reason as to why she didn't see the red flags. 1. A guy says that his wife is member of a cult and threatened to kill him. 2. He gets killed in front of his wife, and his wife takes her kids to school normally and makes funny jokes during the interrogation that same day. 3. She says he was very violent with his ex girlfriends. 4. Her ex girlfriends say that's a lie. 5. It's insanely easy to find out that she's a member of a cult. She literally had a f*cking podcast about it. Nothing makes sense, a lot of people should be fired, starting by the "psychologist" and the "interrogator".

[@corbinnoble5469]

White peopling. It’s an actual thing. There’s so many videos showing how racial biased cops are to white Mexican Asian vs black people. They even get to go home and sleep.

[@Abilich822]

every woman when they have to redirect blame: he was cheating on me

[@tammymileski3874]

If a woman came to the authorities with the same concerns as Charles they would have listened 🙏

[@texasfuneral4787]

Cause most men are simps

[@kacklina]

I'm so tired of this showing up. I doubt that's true, I watch enough channels about this type of topic to have seen them making the same mistake with women. Recently I saw one of a poor lady who couldn't move from her bed because her health, telling them her partner was going to exit her from life, begging them not to leave, the guy making jokes with them that he would do it and being an absolute hole to her in front of them, heck the guy even bragged about how many weapons he had and they left the house as if nothing had happened. The guy did it sometime after they left.

[@drugsmadilla]

​@@kacklinawomen have it on easy mode in the justice system in America and the west for that matter

[@MeBihhhh]

@@drugsmadillathat’s not true

[@drugsmadilla]

@@MeBihhhh it's facts

[@bluefishjoe]

Those cops put a lot of words in their mouths.

[@Johnsmith-rj5gt]

The cops due that to mentally disabled too

[@bluefishjoe]

@@Johnsmith-rj5gt That’s just wrong.

[@Noah-z8s7k]

@@bluefishjoe not in “making a murderer” if you got a 65 IQ you’re easy to manipulate

[@gabbiiee1898]

If you actually listen to all three interviews, their stories are the same but occurred differently which means everybody is lying.

[@MemphisMo]

That's what I was saying... like clearly they collaborated on a story and stuck with it, how does everybody have different versions of something that literally had just happened within hours

[@burchellproductions]

To play devil's advocate, eyewitness testimonies, even if they were telling the truth, are notoriously unreliable to begin with. The chaos and the emotions of each individual play a big role on their own perception of events.

[@justice_1337]

And 2 of the 3 ended up dead for it.

[@reclaimerbear6760]

Eyewitness accounts are often different. For example, one person could remember the shirt colour, another could be completely unable to remember what the person was wearing. Because they were focused on the gun being pointed at them.

[@TaytayteamTaytay]

@@burchellproductions You can trust them once you catch the Killer in a lie. The amount of red flags in the Interviews would've all been Evidence to Corroborate any Witnesses Testimony. Plus the only stories that were different in Charles's Murder were the 3 that were interviewed and their accounts of it were slightly different with Major clues like how Alex changed his fucking story many times. Like how they didn't call 911 until 45 minutes after shooting and killing Charles's instead Lori fled the scene which is a felony to leave a crime scene and none of them were Hysterical or Crying about their Dad being dead which is another Huge Red flag and should've resulted in a polygraph test which would've stopped Lori from killing her kids later.

[@D1sturb3d.gh0u1]

Saying ‘How does she pose a threat’ AFTER charles explained that she would kill him is absurd. He warned them and nobody listened, now they’re all dead. This could’ve been prevented

[@Lyra_dragonal]

This is absolutely terrible. The police were no help until served multiple dishes of cold dead evidence...