How To Clean an EGR Valve Without Removing It

[@MrYoubrian]

As an older fella, here is one of my best pieces of advice- The skin is actually the largest organ in the human body and absorbs tons of nasty things in your lifetime. This is the reason that topical cremes, skin cremes, arthritis pain cremes, etc., etc. work so well. They are easily absorbed by the body through the skin. Wear gloves for everything! Brake fluid, motor oil, transmission fluid and radiator fluid are highly toxic (like poison). Also your lungs are your air filter for your body. They are not easily replaced. Wear a mask, wear a mask, wear a mask! From ANYTHING in a spray can to stains, household cleaners, etc. You will give yourself a much happier life.

[@yensabi]

I'm a diesel mechanic and can tell you now that your wasting your money trying to clean the valve with that stuff....!!! The only way to clean correctly is to remove the valve and clean it by hand , soak it in paraffin overnight and then dry it off and then get a tin of spray on oven cleaner and thoroughly coat the valve , leave it to work in for a couple of hours and then get a toothbrush and give it a good scrub and it will look like new.....👍

[@DrivewayDudes]

Yes, we did that also kzbin.info/www/bejne/fonUe2OPmLSkhas

[@MrBaskr5]

Bro,whts the cleaning interval of this eye in ford figo 1.4 tdci?

[@gary9432]

These guys are Irish ! , what do you expect ! :P

[@muzguz7276]

Thankyou

[@liamjohnhawkins4212]

@@gary9432 they didnt invent the product. They are just showing how to use it based on the manufacturers instructions.

[@fivestar2227]

Engineers should start adding a small access port to the egr system for preventative maintenance.

[@rafezetter8003]

Should it be right below the main port?

[@fivestar2227]

I would put them on the top of problem areas where carbon is most likely to build up and clog allowing you to inject solvent to dissolve the buildup@@rafezetter8003

[@fortitudevalance8424]

On my car (Volkswagen 1.4TDi) the engine oil breather is placed on top of the engine. Oil vapour blowing out during process but get to clean the intercooler, EGR and throttle body. Easy access.

[@joshfoley5205]

I’m quite convinced they’re engineered to need unnecessary maintenance with poor ergonomic design to ensure consistent cash flow for dealership service departments.

[@fivestar2227]

@@fortitudevalance8424 Most vehicles have a small passage casted into the intake manifold that connects the throttle body to the egr valve that gets clogged and requires direct physical access to clean it out. A crankcase breather on top of the valve cover would not help give access.

[@IrishChef85]

Thanks for the tip lads, I tried this but it didn't work well at all. I had to take the valve off and soak it in petrol and scrub it. But I shot that stuff into it after cleaning and it's working like new again. Cheers lads.

[@viorelcraiu895]

The valve is not in tbe oposite side? There is not the turbo? Where u spray it? How do you clean egr when spray the cleaner into turbo?

[@michaellast1385]

How would this spray have made it to the egr valve? The spray would need to go out the exhaust, past the cooler then get to the egr? Even then that is only if the computer had the egr valve open

[@PankajThakur9700]

Really amazing, Respect from India. And the old man is amazing. The way he is supporting the boy is like a pure father son relationship.

[@alespretor27]

How is that spray going to enter EGR valve? This is intake and goes directly to the intake valves. EGR valve and pipe are not on its pathway.

[@bacsecure5451]

please delete your video from youtube.. this make no sense

[@dawggonevidz9140]

Two things. One, as soon as you get your intake reassembled, go for a drive, it's best to do a decent 15 minutes at highway speeds to burn up any of the EGR cleaning fluid that's left as residue. Two, those cleaning sprays work best preventively. That means if you want your diesel engine to last for ages, start doing this every 20 to 30 thousand km from new. If you've bought a second hand diesel, pay to have the intake and EGR valve cleaned, then use this spray to keep it from clogging back up. Or don't, it's your car. I would hve also cleaned the MAP sensor.

[@DrivewayDudes]

Good advice. Prior to using the spray the engine management light was lit on the dash. After spraying and reassembly it was driven and the light went out. We eventually removed the egr valve and cleaned it. See link below. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fonUe2OPmLSkhas

[@volvman9856]

After such cleaning, it was good to show what egr looks like, whether it was washed or just splashed

[@robertvanruyssevelt7159]

Another video showed that it was pretty useless.

[@asscracbelfrage]

Ha ha

[@johnroo9647]

Sorry, but that is not how you clean an EGR system on a diesel engine. Ask yourself where is all the fouling going? There are no short cuts as you really have to pull the EGR system a part for cleaning. There is a chemical reaction that happens to the fouling or carbon. It goes rock hard and if you do this it becomes a nightmare to clean the system after you do this. There are no short cuts in life. At least on cleaning EGR systems on diesel engines. I know, I am in the trade in Australia. Diesel fitter.

[@litbasegaming3465]

He’s mad the videos got 3.9m views and the cars going up in revs while he sprays egr cleaner in it 😂

[@equilibrium8545]

Have to agree with you here. Had to clean my sister's egr valve, and it took several sprays and brushing rounds before it started to look better.

[@shannaidoo130]

Thanks gentlemen. Will I require a new gasket when reinstalling EGR after cleaning?

[@jack765ful]

I do not know anything about Diesel engines. I have very small amount of amateur knowledge on gasoline engine. Silly question: from this video, it appears the spray is introduced at the turbo’s fresh air intake. This means the spray would travel through turbo, gets with compressed fresh air, thru inter cooler, into the fresh sore intake valves on the engine’s intake manifold, and into the cylinders to get burnt. On its way out, when already as soot and CO2, some of it (no more spray) might get into the EGR valve when the valve actuated. In other words, probably less than 1% of the spray would get onto the gunk at the EGR valve? Am I not understanding something correctly?

[@DrivewayDudes]

The turbo function is forced induction. A % of the egr cleaner spray would not pass through the egr valve though some may. To say you know nothing of diesel engines then to say probably less than 1% would is quite a strange statement. We cannot say for certain what percentage does get to the EGR valve but we can say for certain that it does indeed work when applied with this car

[@jack765ful]

Driveway Dudes Thank you for your reply, although it is not answering the root of my question. I understand turbo charger is compressing air; that part is same as in a turbocharged gasoline engine. The difference is Diesel engine must have one, whereas gasoline engine could work naturally aspirated. My question is: the post-turbo air need to enter the cylinder first, get combusted (so the cleaner is now mostly burned up, becomes CO2 and H2O and whatever other incomplete combustion compounds), go out the exhaust valve into the exhaust manifold. At this point, there is very little “cleaner” left; most if not all should have being burnt. Now: the EGR isn’t always on. I don’t know what % of time an EGR valve would be on. But when the EGR is on, then a fraction of the exhaust gas gets recirc’ed. So we’re talking about fraction (after burning) of fraction (if EGR is on) of fraction (not all exhaust gas is recirc’ed even if EGR is on) of the cleaner spray would route through the EGR valve. And we haven’t even got started on exhaust temperature being higher, so any lucky residual cleaner should be in gas phase not liquid phase, and doesn’t “clean” as well when in gas phase... So back to my question: this method of cleaning EGR doesn’t seem to make sense. Am I missing something here? Or is there some keyboard hero who self-appoints as driveway/car expert can help enlighten us all?

[@NINJA2da]

I have a Toyota 3rd gen Prius and it's Impossible to remove the EGR valve only. What worked was using an extra reach 12 mm racheting wrench for the three Nuts in the back and I had a hard time reaching the 4th HIDDEN 12 mm nut underneath the EGR cooler. Used a Torx E8 socket for the two Bolts ( in the back of EGR cooler) and we finally freed the EGR assembly. Now I can clean the valve and EGR cooler easily. Good video

[@label1877]

In your opinion can you avoid cleaning the EGR if you run Chevron or Shell gasoline and only and use Valvoline Clean and Protect engine oil. Both of these do well cleaning/preventing carbon buildup.

[@paulkazjack]

I'm a mechanical engineer and doing this achieves nothing. You have to take the egr off and do a proper job.

[@criartoros]

But this method works, I know because I tried it with Mr muscle on my picasso.

[@robertopinna220]

And most of the mess goes inside the intake manifold

[@kanyeedigum182]

It does work done it myself, had no issues or fault codes since, but I did use EGR cleaner not Mr Muscle lol.

[@erikvadasz7435]

You cannot clean the EGR valve without hydrogen carbon cleaning it. The mechanic that says he will do it is full of it. Trust me. That black coal like gunk won't come out.

[@R87_W]

Definitely works, I used a mix of mould remover and fly spray on my Ferrari 355

[@legasatlometsane3248]

What about the cleaners that are added into the fuel system through the fuel tank? Are they as equally effective?

[@panspermiahunter7597]

Surely the intake is the throttle body and throttle valve while EGR is exhaust gas recirculation which is outlet?

[@jovanzacevski]

How to clean EGR without removing it ? Let someone else remove it for you and then clean it!

[@hally12hally]

Hahahaha brilliant 👍

[@MsLincos]

:-)))

[@lildevil32304]

😆🤣🤣🤣

[@inaindok8156]

EGR cleaner is a flamable fluid. So if you can spray into the turbo intake, the highest part of the cleaner fluid will burn in the cylinders. Maybe a little can go out to the exhaust system, but the huge part of them will go into the catalysator, and not into the EGR tube. And i think, that very small burned cleaning fluid will not remove that lots of carbon dust from the EGR valve.

[@DrivewayDudes]

It worked for us and we believe for many more people that have used it. We didn't manufacture it nor can we say how much will be burned in the cylinders or how much will recirculate. We made a video to see how effective it was. We followed manufacturers directions of this brand and the result was in our opinion that it did indeed do what it was designed and marketed for. Our EML was on before we started and afterwards it was not. If just a tiny percentage got through then apparently it was enough to make a difference.

[@alessandrodicesare8374]

Absolutely! Then consider that only a small percentage of the exhaust fumes get fed back to the egr. Anyone who has ever cleaned an egr valve after stripping it knows how much effort it takes to scrub it clean. There are no short cuts. Strip and scrub! You may want to look inside your inlet manifold while you're busy because i just finished removing about 350 gr of gunk with oven cleaner. Enjoy!

[@jojonono204]

The EGR gasses come from the exhaust manifold to the EGR valve, back to the intake manifold, into the engine. Remember "EXHAUST Gas Recirculation".

[@conorf8091]

So…. It works right ? Is that the point or ?

[@No-timeforimbeciles]

Exactly, where they spray will do nothing for egr valve !

[@No-timeforimbeciles]

​@@conorf8091No, it does not work, only way to clean properly is remove EGR valve, these sprays are just temporary fix

[@conorf8091]

@@No-timeforimbeciles yes I found that out the hard way. I over heated the catalyst. I fixed the egr code by fitting an new one properly like you said at least ..

[@kurien737]

Absolutely true... Am an engineer myself... Fail to understand how this method will help to clean an EGR valve after the cleaner has passed thro the engine , burnt, passed thro catalytic converter, and a small % of those fumes will be routed thro EGR valve , and clean it...!! Pretty optimistic...!!

[@maksymleontiev5038]

Hello) It turns out that you did the dismantling of the air sensor and poured the spray directly into the turbine and all this went through the air cooler and through the damper and into the motor?

[@1960ARC]

Having taken my EGR valve out to clean it, I find it hard to believe a bit of spray will get an EGR restricted with gunk clean. I scraped gunk off my EGR and soaked it in white spirit. When I put it back there was an increase in power. Also is it a good idea to have the at least two desert spoons of gunk that were in my EGR to be sucked into the engine?

[@DrivewayDudes]

The chemical composition of the EGR cleaning spray is such that it is capable of breaking down the deposits, ignites with the air fuel mixture and is expelled through the exhaust. Is Gunk ignitible ? If not then be careful as fluids do not compress well and could possibly harm your engine. In the very near future we will be making an engine cleaning video, We may use a car or a motorbike, e.g. one of our cars or maybe a Px Arcobaleno that is to be restored.

[@christopheroreilly9400]

Using flammable liquid. Do you think after it detonated there's any product left to do anything or has it added a biproduct to your egr. deisel itself is a pretty good lubricant to clean parts with. Yet its biproduct leaves a black chalk like substance called carbon you used a products biproduct am just wondering if you thought about that

[@jozefbubez6116]

Would this procedure apply to a petrol car? I am thinking in particular of a 2009 Chevrolet Matiz. Good work, many thanks!

[@salimmetin]

In case of your car, it is petrol car with no turbo I guess. I that case, the inlet manifold of petrol car does not get much dirty.

[@jozefbubez6116]

I had the problem a couple of months ago when engine running when very lumpy and yellow engine management light came on. I gapped plugs, changed coil-pack but no good. I later replaced spark plugs but though running a little better, that was not full answer. I cleaned PCV which seemed to be working OK then reoved air-hose and squirted cleaner into air-intake. Within a couple of squirts, engine came back to running normally. For good measure, I fitted new air-filter as this was noticeably nearly black and likely overdue. Finally, yellow engine management light went out without having to cancel anything and everything still works just fine having passed annual technical test with no problem! Have a good day!@@salimmetin

[@Parknest]

I've done this job on my C4GP. I used the Wynns EGR valve cleaner which is about a tenner from Halfords in the UK. With the Wynns you have to use the entire can. I sprayed mine just after the air filter because the Wynns won't harm the MAF or the turbo (my C4GP has the 2.0 HDi engine). I let the car idle and gave it 1 second bursts of spray. The engine note will change and as soon as it recovers give it the next spray and repeat until the can has been used up.

[@DrivewayDudes]

Hi Parknest, The instructions and application of EGR valve cleaners may differ from brand to brand. They claim they can clean effectively. We haven't tried Wynns product but If it worked for you then that's all that matters. Well done. Driveway Dudes - Paul

[@achromats4107]

Parknest yy

[@jamietalbot7254]

I used it today but nothing came out of the exhaust and my eml light is still on?

[@georgemccabe3522]

That's daft, unless you're driving a very old car. The EGR in most modern vehicles won't open unless the engine is under load (revs above 2000). This is because generally engine temps will be relatively low and the risk of valve clatter is minimal. In diesels this is especially true as Diesel engines run colder at idle than petrol ones. I find it pretty unlikely that your issue was the EGR. It's possible that it may have been the throttle body and you were just lucky enough to have managed to free up the valve without having to rev it.

[@user-mg6rf8yz1s]

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[@slips-gta9149]

Well, you did it, but did it work and did the engine lamp go away?

[@TheRosePedals]

EGR spray cleaner for gasoline cars isn't available in the United States. What sort of substitute cleaner can I use? Does the product you are using feel very oily if you rub it in between your fingers? Does it evaporate quickly? Does it have the smell of acetone? I've read that adding 2 oz. of automatic transmission fluid per gallon of gas will clean the EGR valve, since it doesn't burn completely and the vapor works its way into the exhaust.

[@salimmetin]

Does this spray have any side effects that might damage any parts?

[@youngstayoung6633]

Thought you sprayed it through the maf sensors end air filter pipe?

[@justsomedude1488]

My citreon dispatch 1.6 2008 engine light has come on, won't go past 40mph.. diagnostic says egr valve, will it be as easy for me to do like you did here? I need my van for work and no garage can change my valve until next week 😫

[@marqn4154]

What's the best thing that cleans out the carbon because I'm tired of Chrysler Dodge hinting at me that they're the only ones that can do it?

[@droge192]

Did it work then? Did it fix the engine light coming on with the EGR fault code? I reckon you'd have a very slim chance of a spray into the intake actually removing enough carbon to resolve the engine light.

[@DrivewayDudes]

Yes, it worked. It temporarily cleaned enough for the warning light to go out for a few weeks. Eventually the egr valve was replaced.

[@Gstick10]

Did the eml light go out after doing this or did u need to clear the error code manually

[@robru]

Hi guys, my wife’s C4 GP 1.6 hdi is showing an engine management light and an ‘anti pollution faulty’ message. The car is driving ok up to 80 kph /50 mph but after that it can slow down going up hill, can hold back in traffic or even stall when going around a corner. Is it worth trying this treatment or is it altogether more serious? I’ve also thought about changing the fuel filter and air filter but then I’m stuck for ideas after that. Thanks for the great videos, they’re really inspirational.

[@DrivewayDudes]

Hi robru, It could be a partially clogged EGR valve or it could be a clogged DPF. If the fuel filter was bad, the car may have starting and acceleration issues at all speeds including stalling as well as pushing out excessive exhaust smoke. Cleaning the EGR valve with the spray would be the first and least expensive step in a process of elimination. Hope this helps.

[@robru]

Driveway Dudes many thanks for replying. I will give the spray a try first.

[@W42PZ]

Maybe a daft question, but I have a can of EGR cleaner for a petrol engine, can this also be used with a diesel engine? Thanks. 🙋🏻‍♂️

[@DrivewayDudes]

That would depend on what it says on the can

[@kwempe]

I think you are too far away from the EGR for that to be much use, you could however make a fortune as a Robert De Niro double!

[@DrivewayDudes]

Hi kwempe, With the pipe from the air box to the turbo disconnected there is no restricted airflow. The turbo would then be quite capable of passing the spray towards the EGR valve. We understand it may not be quite as effective as spraying directly into the EGR valve but the valve accessibility is very difficult without removing parts from the engine. This procedure has been proven to work for us on this particular car. Thanks for the info. If Robert De Niro ever decides to come to our area to make a movie then Driveway Dudes would be happy to work with him particularly if it involves cars or other diy related content. 😉

[@DulceSeeker]

If its one degreaser basis I would be scared as fuck to blow it through turbo. Just remove the EGR instead and clean the whole intake...

[@DrivewayDudes]

EGR spray is not a degreasing agent. It's a solvent designed to breakdown mainly carbon, gum and varnish deposits that's accumulated over time. Removing the EGR valve on this particular car is not straightforward and may be beyond the capabilities of your everyday diy enthusiast

[@MrDelvey]

@@DrivewayDudes EGR valve is next to the fuel filter. At 3:33 when the air intake pipe is off you can see the fuel filter. Remove this and the air filter housing and the EGR is easily accessible

[@RogerPack]

@@DrivewayDudes Does it work for other cars?

[@twotoneandy73]

Top and bottom of it is the EGR valve needs removing to clean it . That stuff won’t move the soot or tar like gunk that clogs the valve and parts up

[@mikmik4205]

Excellent video can we do the same in petrol 1NRFE toyota

[@joseolivo9169]

Hi guys. Does that alternative works with normal (gas) cars? Since yours is Diesel. I have a Chevrolet Lumina 98.

[@jeffreyjones6416]

Thanks lads . Saved me loads of money

[@RJ-jh9fs]

Was this maintenance being done prior to putting 200,000km on the car and tripping a check engine light?

[@DrivewayDudes]

A high mileage car can still work 100% if well looked after.

[@garyhelton7]

Do you know how I can clean the EGR on a Toyota Prius? I don't see a turbo on it. The best way to clean it with minimal tools.

[@davidf4723]

Just wondering where you think all the soot is going? 🤔

[@consaka1]

It's going through the engine like a fuel substitute. Lol that's what it's doing. However you have no idea whether or not it did anything. Considering how much work it actually is to scrub those clean by hand I seriously doubt any spray is going to do much of anything.

[@lewisb2337]

Hi, Can i do this to my VW Transporter van 2.0 Diesel? Had a diagnostics which has come back with EGR Fault, engine management light is on. I also heard that you can put a certain EGR cleaner direct into the fuel tank when half full?

[@DrivewayDudes]

Is it a T5 or 5.1?

[@DrivewayDudes]

Usually injector cleaner is added to fuel in tank. It's not uncommon for the T5 and 5.1 to have egr issues. You can try cleaning it yourself or removing the egr to clean it. That way you can give it a thorough clean whilst checking the vacuum actuator and connecting pipes and hoses. If the van is not too old then in some cases as a gesture of 'Good Will' VW will replace the egr free of charge but you may have to pay labour costs

[@michaelbrown9031]

Been having troubles with my 1.3cdti Vauxhall Meriva of late... laggy turbo, sometimes not boosting at all. Looking into using this style of EGR cleaning (as a recent repair meant I saw a very clogged and grotty EGR system) as well as the turbo cleaner as they seem to be the best tries before drastic action is needed. Vids like this are a great help, appreciate people like yourselves putting them up 👍

[@DrivewayDudes]

Hi Michael. Thanks for the compliment and happy you found this video useful. We try to be as straight forward and helpful as possible in our videos. We recommend periodic checks and basic preventative maintenance rather than wait for something to go wrong or become faulty. if you find the content of our videos useful then feel free to share our channel with your family, friends and contacts. Driveway Dudes - Paul

[@sashatiwana1]

Lag is usually due to dirty air mass flow sensor . Buy a cleaner and its an easy clean

[@mukhongolawrence5003]

Hi Driveway Dudes. I have a peugeot 307 SW HDI 1.6, it is a 2004 model. My car has started bunrning the engine oil and it is producing a lot o smoke. Everybody wonders when I drive a round because of smoke. Can thing be solved by cleaning the EGR Valve, Inlet Manifold and Inlet Valves using the EGR cleaner?

[@DrivewayDudes]

It's probably the cheapest first step to try. If it works then you've solved it. If not, then you have gotten one step closer to finding the issue by ruling that out

[@robbyalmendrez1750]

I'm confused about the title, with the video shown you are cleaning the egr thru the turbo charger itself is that right? So basically the 2 component's will be cleaned eventually?

[@DrivewayDudes]

The turbo may benefit somewhat from the egr valve cleaning spray

[@donj.giovanni7551]

Where to purchase the JLM Diesel Air Intake & EGR Cleaner in Chicago area or in US?

[@abukatada5997]

So you didn’t clean the EGR! Just sprayed a cleaner fluid into the turbo

[@edyy1662]

Hello ! What kind of spray did you used in this video?

[@jimbuckingham4718]

My vw golf has limp mode sometimes what's the best solution clean EGR valve and hopefully ready to go 👍

[@DrivewayDudes]

If you have access to a car scanner then try that and see what faults are showing up before attempting anything further

[@p.munster9209]

Very good en helpfull video. Thank you.

[@mehmetaras3731]

Do display fault lights turn on after egr cleaning for Volvo s 40 2008 model vehicle? with which liquid it makes more sense to clean? Thank you.

[@olenduschannel7714]

Nice tutorial EGR System service 🎉

[@trevorjenkins1976]

I wonder if the Wynn's catalytic converter and lambda oxygen cleaner would work on a EGR valve If addid to the petrol tank. Just a thought.

[@droge192]

Nothing added to the fuel tank will have any effect on the EGR. It needs to be though the air intake system.

[@donner101]

How does spraying into the turbo clean the EGR valve. The EGR valve is on the other side of the pipe your removed after the MAF sensor, you didn't even spray the right end.

[@vistron888]

Got a 2.0 HDi Peugeot Expert. Starts fine (cept when very cold) and drives well but sometimes as I come to brake on an upward incline the engine stalls. It happens at one particular road almost all the time. Rest of the time fine. Any ideas? Thanks!

[@DrivewayDudes]

Hi V T, Very cold/freezing weather can affect the performance of the battery and heater plugs. It can also affect the viscosity of oils including diesel especially if the engine has not been started for several hours. Does it stall as you're braking or when you try to accelerate after braking and is the engine still cold when this happens? Are there any warning lights on the dash prior or after? What's the mileage on it? When was it serviced last? Have you had a diagnostics scan carried out? Did you try cleaning the egr valve as shown in our video?

[@vistron888]

I service it myself. Oil and filters all changed regularly. Changed fuel filter recently. No warning lights and nothing on code scanner. 100k on the clock. It stalls as I brake and come to a stop. The engine has been running for 20 minutes at least so not cold as such. I'll try the EGR cleaning and see if that helps. If it stops raining! Cheers.

[@2100Rose]

Seems like this it worth a try . My old Astra van is on 188000 miles

[@kbullock1994]

Thanks for the taking the time to shoot & post the video. I have a 207 1.6 HDi 2011reg. Its the first time I have ever owned a Diesel. I bought it 14months ago and it has 58000. is it worth doing this to my car, it seems to be running fine. Just had a major service on it yesterday by a Peugeot garage! I also only use Shell V-Power and BP Ultimate, alternating between each fill up.

[@DrivewayDudes]

Hi rush man1uk. Thanks for the comment. We like to think that this periodic preventative maintenance can help so that you may avoid having EGR issues. Spending £10 - £15 and an hour of your time could potentially save you £hundreds in garage bills. if you do decide to do it then just be careful that you spray it after the MAF as it is sensitive to the EGR cleaner. Please feel free to share this channel with your Family, Friends and Contacts :) Driveway Dudes - Paul

[@petethompson1282]

services are a con. Find out what yourcar needs and just do what's needed. Anyone can top up their fluids!

[@elizabethmcgovern9731]

Hi again i am again looking for your advice please cleaning the berlingo cloth seats which are badly stained and a very dirty engine bay full of dust its filthy but no oil leaks TG Thank you,Paul.

[@DrivewayDudes]

We have used upholstery spray foam cleaner. Very inexpensive and quite effective. Purchased in the £ shop or for the millenials, € shop

[@DrivewayDudes]

The engine bay is a trickier decision. Option 1. Power wash it but make sure the engine is not running or too hot and avoid spraying directly on electrics. Option 2. Hand clean with degreaser and hand wash off. Option 3. Do nothing

[@LLuE88]

Question on this insertion location, how can this work when the EGR valve is not in the air intake flow? It is only in the Exhaust gas flow, EGR valve, then to the "intake manifold"? For this to work it must go through the engine fuel burning process then a rather small percent of the "cleaner" to do what you want it to do. Seems rather chancy for it to work at all? regards

[@DrivewayDudes]

Hi LLuE88, It does seem a bit of a waste alright. Maybe only a small % is actually needed. As we understand, all egr cleaning sprays have similar application instruction. We followed the printed instructions on this particular brand and it appears to work. This is preventative maintenance and it works on this car. Rather pay €10 or €15 for a can that is effective than risk trying some other method that may or may not work and could end up being costly. No doubt some time in the future the egr valve may have to be replaced (€200-€300+) but for the moment this is an inexpensive solution, if only temporary Paul

[@LLuE88]

That's fine, my main concern was the amount of time and knuckle busting it takes to remove only to clean the EGR valve, it's very close to having to partially lift out engine to get at the EGR valve. I will do as you have indicated, also have a syringe that's 1" in diameter, works great to pump the diaphragm up and down, regards thanks, regards

[@DrivewayDudes]

Some claim that they can remove the egr valve without too much difficulty. For them it may very well be located in a more accessible place on their cars, vans, trucks, etc. This works for us and as you mentioned it would need a partial lift of the engine to access it directly. In our case, an M6 type bolt and 2 jubilee clips will give us the access we need to enable us to carry out this simple straight-forward cleaning operation. If an engine lift even partially was required then it wouldn't be considered a preventative maintenance operation that could be easily carried out by a diy enthusiast/s Paul

[@christyparkins7760]

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[@l9jjp]

How do you think your cleaning the egr by spraying in the inlet side of the turbo ??

[@MRTIBURONTIBURON]

I have a 2004 ford mustang and have replaced the valve, the two sensors have been checked and the egr connections are not dirty but the check engine light keeps coming on. Any suggestions as to what to do?

[@DrivewayDudes]

Hi MRTIBURONTIBURON, Is the car running fine when the light is on? Have you had it on a diagnostic scanner? If so, did you have the system reset? Have you had any parts replaced? Some aftermarket parts can cause this. Did you do the "disconnect battery for 15 minutes" simple reset? On that car the most common issues that throw up check engine light would be the o2 sensors. Removal and a thorough clean, apply an electrical contact solution and replacing has in some cases rectified this. Others include mass air flow sensor, faulty gas cap, egr, faulty or damaged wiring (open circuit, shorting, grounding), cracked/gasket leak at header and then there's the cat

[@MRTIBURONTIBURON]

Driveway Dudes most of them except for the 15 min reset.

[@lioemelio6213]

I have a 2003 Mitsubishi eclipse I'm also getting the p0401 code I replaced my egr twice located In the back of my engine and replaced the solenoid and the hoses. Still my light stays on. Would this work for my vehicle and also any other suggestions would help. Thank you.

[@DrivewayDudes]

Hi Lio, P0401 is a generic code. The OBD detected an insufficient exhaust gas recirculation flow. There are 3 parts to the EGR - 1. EGR valve. 2. Actuator solenoid. 3. Differential pressure sensor egr (DPFE). I see you mentioned the first 2. Have you checked number 3 on the list? Have you reset the trouble code/s with the necessary equipment as with some vehicles this may be necessary. You may get build up in the EGR pipe/tube so spraying is an option and in some cases a solution. If the car is acting/driving normal then it may be just a case of a code reset.

[@lioemelio6213]

Driveway Dudes - I'll check number three and also try the cleaning today thanks for the reply.

[@DrivewayDudes]

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[@faclonfree8928]

Is it normal for the car temperature gauge to go really high When spraying this ???

[@elizabethmcgovern9731]

Hi Will and Paul a question from my son whose is not on line he has a 2011 multispace 1.6 hdi 90 mileage is 137000,it was a import 26 months ago this has now developed a wine in his gearbox can you recommend a company or a person who can sort his gearbox please ,Paul.

[@DrivewayDudes]

It could be low on oil in the gearbox (gearbox oil is meant to be changed about every 20k) or it could be the clutch thrust bearing. If it's a manual gearbox, start it, listen, then press and keep depressed the clutch pedal but do not engage gear, listen, any difference in sound? If so it's probably the thrust bearing and if not then it could be the gearbox. If it's automatic then you would need to bring it to a Citroen Peugeot approved garage to diagnose it for certain. Based on the information provided, we can offer suggestions and possible issue/fault. We however cannot say for certain that 'this is what is wrong'

[@DaveGreeneramblingcarpenter]

Ive used the weee of a maiden to clean mine,, was a little difficult to aim her, but well worth it,,

[@Eoghanlynch1985]

Hi, I tried this but as soon as I remove pipe, and start the car the engine shudders to a halt. When I replaced the pipe the engine ticks over again. Is this a sign of something worse? Great video btw

[@DrivewayDudes]

Hi Eoghanlynch1985. What engine do you have? Is the engine warm or cold when you try it? After removing the pipe, attempt to bring the revs up a little to prevent the engine from stalling. Hold the increased revs for 30 - 60 seconds and release the accelerator to allow the engine to idle. This should resolve your stalling issue.

[@Eoghanlynch1985]

It's a Citroen 1.6 hdi. I think the engine was cold actually. I'll try doing it again with warm engine, and report back. Thanks for advice lads, you're bloody great

[@DrivewayDudes]

Hi Eoghanlynch1985. Thanks for the kind words. Please do let us know how you get on :)

[@Eoghanlynch1985]

Driveway Dudes, just letting ye know that it worked perfectly with engine hot. I did need to clear fault codes with OBD2 reader though, but sure I picked one up on Amazon for €30, and it's always handy to have one of those

[@DrivewayDudes]

Glad to hear you were successful. Hope the video helped.

[@brianpite0893]

Do you think this method can be used to clean the EGR cooler on my 2009 Duramax in my GMC?

[@DrivewayDudes]

If the pipework layout is similar them we don't see why not

[@elizabethmcgovern9731]

Hi yet again, how important is it to clean out the small bore metal pipe on the left side of the ERG valve held in place with a alan screw i think it feeds oil to the turbo on my 1.6 HDi 90 Berlingo 2012 version Thank you ,Regards Paul.

[@DrivewayDudes]

Hi Paul. Is it leaking where the Allen Screw attaches the pipe to the turbo? If not, it would probably be best to leave it alone.

[@elizabethmcgovern9731]

no but my garage man feels with 128000 miles on the clock it should be cleaned out ??Thank you Paul.

[@elizabethmcgovern9731]

Im sorry if i put you on the spot this was NOT my intention but if this is important and will help to extend the turbo life then i will go for it ,Sincerely Paul Djerassi.

[@DrivewayDudes]

Hi Paul, You are not putting us on the spot. You are asking for our advice and views and we can offer that. We would never say - you must do this or you must do that. The 2007 Citroën C4 1.6hdi that Will owns is his daily driver. It has to date over 135k miles, is reliable, pulls strong and can still exceed 55+ mpg. To his knowledge the turbo has never been replaced. He is meticulous in his maintenance and servicing of the car i.e. He carries out weekly checks and services the car within the service schedule. He uses the oils, lubricants and service parts that Citroën recommends. He will cross reference with other makes and brands to make sure he uses nothing but the best. He uses Total Quartz oil, Mann filters, Michelin tyres, etc. The car responds well and it drives and handles like it should. From what we have researched, it appears possible that a well looked after 1.6hdi engine can last 200k miles and beyond. Look for yourself, there are many examples for sale with mileage way in excess of that. Hope this helps. Driveway Dudes Paul

[@elizabethmcgovern9731]

Thank you i value all that you have told me im using the same oil and filter thank you tyres will come later on ,Paul.

[@martystevens3969]

On a Ford, if you get codes about EGR Pos. Sensors, replace the charcoal canister purge valve if it has one. If you get codes about Ox.sensor running rich, replace the MAP sensor.

[@DrivewayDudes]

Hi Marty. Good to know and noted :) Thanks

[@elizabethmcgovern9731]

Good afternoon Gentlemen my mechanic showed me a wobble in the turbo shaft suggests i buy a repair kit on line and we can rebuild it can you suggest where i look for such a kit as there is no damage to the fan as yet but needs bearings,Thank you both,Paul.

[@DrivewayDudes]

Your mechanic may very well be correct but we would suggest you take your car to a Citroën approved garage to confirm (if its the Berlingo you are referring to). Turbo rebuilds should only be carried out by those specialised in that field. Blades spinning at up to 250,000rpm can disintegrate due to the smallest imbalance. If it's not done exactly right it could lead to catastrophic consequences to not only the turbo but the entire engine as well. The final decision is entirely yours of course

[@elizabethmcgovern9731]

Thank you hence i asked your advice first ,ill do as you say ,how many rounds do i owe you now ?.Paul

[@DrivewayDudes]

We are happy to offer advice and suggestions. If we're ever in your area i'm sure a cuppa would be grand :)

[@DrivewayDudes]

Please don't put up your personal details for all to see. i saved it and deleted it here

[@elizabethmcgovern9731]

ok thank you paul

[@TheBenzer9]

Hi guys having problems with a 06 transit connect failing the DOE on the emissions now it was lying up for a while just wondering would cleaning the egr valve help to get this passed obviously with the other bits you have to do..ie filter changes diptane ect?

[@alangreensmith7887]

I have a307 Peugeot diesel anti pollution message comes up would try this but cannot see same pipe on mine ?

[@ktopoglidis]

Great job guys, indeed useful. The JLM instructional video (today at least that I checked) is saying to not spray it on the turbo as other people are saying, but to the inlet and not on the mass air flow sensor (MAF). On good trick on this car would be to remove the MAP sensor and spray to the hole.

[@DrivewayDudes]

Hi ktopoglidis, Thanks for the comment. Instructions and directions released by different brands are usually generalised and not model specific. It is possible to spray directly through the turbo provided it's not hot. The spray canister being highly pressurised would be very cold and spraying it into a hot turbo could possibly cause micro fracturing of the vanes. If as you suggested that removing the MAF and spraying in that way, we would reckon the majority of the spray would hit the inside of the pipe before a very little would eventually find it's way to the EGR valve

[@ktopoglidis]

indeed they are not model specific the instructions from the manufacturers, but they do say in their video to do not spray in the turbo. There are several reasons, but I don't go into that. For many european models (Citroen, Mazda, Peugeot, Volvo, Mini and possibly more) the engine is the same (or similar). So taking one bolt that keeps the MAP is as easy as taking out the intake pipe. I will agree that you may have issues of hitting the pipe and run down a bit, but still might be better option. The JLM video is here also: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHfSi2l8ZrB4idk Since I wanted to clean and the pipes etc I sprayed also on the turbo a bit.

[@DrivewayDudes]

We did indeed try it through the MAF/MAP on a Citroen C5 1.6hdi and it didn't work so well for us. We found this way better but we would recommend caution as described above

[@a.spaintingcontractorsa.sp7064]

I have just got some that you put in the tank is this any good

[@jeffm7375]

Hi guys, I have a fiat scudo 2.0l multijet 2009 and my fault codes are coming up egr problem, i was was wondering if you could tell me where to locate my egr valve please?

[@thespiritualwayofallthings]

Can you use this method to clean dpf on my Peugeot 407 hdi 2.0 ?

[@DrivewayDudes]

A clogged or jammed egr valve can affect the dpf. Cleaning the egr may help

[@AtemsGal]

Hello Driveway Dudes :) Some advice would be lovely! I was driving my Peugeot 208 today, as I left a roundabout the car shuddered and the check engine light came on. Now having trouble accelerating at low gears. The car will start easily, but when I put it in first gear, it has trouble actually pulling the car. If I move to second gear at 10 miles per hour it has trouble gaining speed again. Similar changing to third gear at appx 20 miles per hour, trouble gaining speed. It's like it doesn't have enough power. We have disconnected the battery and let the car reset. It will run fine for a few minutes, but when I reach appx 20-25 mph the issue occurs again. Another strange thing that happened at the same time is that when I turn off the engine, the fan continues to run until we disconnect the battery. It is a Peugeot 208, petrol, 1.4, 2013 plate. Thanks xxx

[@DrivewayDudes]

Hi AtemsGal, The 208 is a good car but like most cars can be prone to faults, be they minor or more serious. Ideally you would need to get it checked and scanned by an approved garage so that any faults that are recorded on the cars ECU will show up. We have heard of various reports of issues with 207 and 208 models similar to your issue. The most common reports are - slipping clutch, coil pack, a fuel injector, dirty fuel, overdue service, failing alternator, etc A replacement clutch or coil pack is expensive, an injector or alternator less. Dirty fuel can be drained. Service costs would depend on where you were to bring it. Very seldom will a scan not locate the issue. I would repeat above, Please have it checked by an approved garage. Hope this helps. Paul

[@AtemsGal]

Driveway Dudes Hi Paul thanks for the advice :) Took it to the garage today. They said the coil pack was damaged and it had, in turn, damaged the spark plugs. £180, not too bad. Thought it would be much more with how the car was reacting! Thanks again :) xxx

[@haeshsheli1]

Hi, is it good for kia ceed JD 2016 diesel too?

[@rantzzzrantzzz2568]

Would I spray the same place with fiesta 2006 tdci?

[@elizabethmcgovern9731]

Good evening Gents great weather at last .a friend gave me a brand new turbo cassette which i could do with in the long term however when we fitted it ,it fitted beautifully until we fitted the large circlip and then it wont turn ? its exactly as my one in every detail but must be 2 / 3 thou longer any ideas please ,i had bought a kit to restore my turbo bigger job i know Sincerely Paul D.

[@DrivewayDudes]

Hi Paul, You must mean a turbo cartridge. Is it OEM or aftermarket? Is your friend a turbo specialist? It may look the same but there are several different genuine Garrett turbo cartridges for the Berlingo as there are aftermarket ones. Did you get the replacement cartridge based on the model number embossed on the turbo housing that's in your vehicle?

[@elizabethmcgovern9731]

Sorry you are correct Cartridge,no pats multispace was a write off he purchased his as a aftermarket unit from some English company HJ is on it his citroen was as ours HDi 1.6 90 2012 he never got to fit it before his brother totaled there multispace ,there are only a few numbers on pats and lots on ours ,we purchases a kit to refurb ours but haven''t done a thing since we tried to fit pats and failed Paul

[@elizabethmcgovern9731]

Hi based on your sound information i gave the Cartridge back to Pat ,maybe you can suggest some one to rebuild my turbo or an exchange new for old situation please Paul

[@DrivewayDudes]

Hi Paul, The link below is for a company in Mullingar. Click on the link or copy and paste in your browser. We would suggest you have a talk with them before you commit. We have not dealt with them so cannot comment on them. www.mullingarturbos.ie/

[@elizabethmcgovern9731]

Thank you will do ,i appreciate all the help you give me ,Paul

[@meatloafhead]

Will this cause my engine to overheat, which then kicks in my high fan to cool? I just did thermo housing, water pipe and turbo coolant aux pump, no leaks anymore YET IT NOW OVERHEATS 😮 and I have a fault code p2418 EVAP… so I’m not sure if it’s this EGR or my EVAP???? Please help me!!!!!!

[@DrivewayDudes]

Code P2418 is for EVAP and not EGR. Hint, EVAP is short for evaporation and would be fuel related as opposed to EGR exhaust gas recirculation. Try trouble-shooting and below may help correct this error: Faulty wiring repair or replacement. EVAP pressure sensor repair or replacement. Fuel cap replacement. Faulty EVAP valves replacement. EVAP pump circuit and connections corrections. Purge solenoid replacement. Hope this helps

[@eamonmoore5062]

Did this and engine management light came on... any ideas...

[@user-ju3od5gy5q]

Clear explanation of getting this done. Good Visuals (Lighting, etc.) Very Helpful (especially when i am learning how to do this stuff so i will not get over charged by a local repair shop. Man, so many of local shops are questionable (overcharge, misdiagnose problem, misleading info about repairs, etc, etc). Thanks for video (USA).

[@DrivewayDudes]

Hi K, Good on ya. No better way to learn than to try it for yourself. Sometimes DIY can stand for Destroy It Yourself but not so in this video. You will not damage anything as long as you do not spray any sensors i.e. Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor being very sensitive. If after using the can of EGR valve cleaner the EGR valve is still choked up then it would have just cost you the price of a can to find out. We have another video of cleaning one when it's out of the car kzbin.info/www/bejne/fonUe2OPmLSkhas With experience we can relate to different garages and workshops diagnosis and billing methods so we make every effort to do it ourselves and share it with our viewers

[@stephenswallow7654]

Great video Did our light turn its self off after you sprayed or did you still have to get computer to knock it off ????

[@Carlos.Rivera]

It should disappear. However, if the valve is still stuck you should buy a new one

[@DrivewayDudes]

Light will automatically go out when it's clean

[@elizabethmcgovern9731]

Back again Sorry, in the book i got with the car Berlingo multispace plus 2012 it shows rear parking sensors my dont bleep thats if my model has them maybe you would advise me please,paul.

[@DrivewayDudes]

Hi Paul. No need to be sorry. Can you see any round sensors on your back bumper? Driveway Dudes - Will

[@philipevans9188]

i have a 2007 2ltr vtr deisel with a different engine layout how and where do i put the spray in this model

[@elizabethmcgovern9731]

Good afternoon i am hoping you can help me the clock on our multispace + is stuck on march 3rd and i have held in the left hand black pin to change the time but nothing happens went to Citroen mullingar to busy to help ,Paul

[@DrivewayDudes]

Hi Paul. It should be the same process as on my C4 to change the date. Here is a link to our video on how to do so: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ol7Zo42IfJ6iiMU

[@elizabethmcgovern9731]

Once again a big thank you paul.

[@elizabethmcgovern9731]

Thank you it worked .citroen mullingar service could learn a lot from you guys .i buy spares from them but never another thing ,spares dept nice guys the rest xxxxxxxx, S xx t, paul.

[@elizabethmcgovern9731]

Hi i hope you are both keeping well ,some advice please on our Multispace Berlingo 1.6 HDi when i lock the steering to reverse right or the same forward i can feel a vibration coming back through the steering ,what do i need to get fixed please this started after we hit a huge pothole filled with rain ,thank you paul D.

[@DrivewayDudes]

Hi, Hitting potholes can indeed cause steering issues, e.g. damage to tyre, damage to wheel, steering mis-alignment, suspension, etc. We would recommend you bring it to a reputable tyre garage to have the tyre, wheel and tracking/wheel alignment checked. If you decide to have it tracked/aligned you may find it has resolved the issue. If not, then you may need to further investigate.

[@elizabethmcgovern9731]

Thank you yet again we did as you have suggest but tyres and tracking were all ok he could not find a problem ? hence im annoying you Gentlemen once again Sorry paul

[@DrivewayDudes]

No need to be sorry and you're not annoying us. We're happy to help :) It could be a drop link, tie rod end, balljoint, wishbone bushing, suspension top mount, damaged spring, leaking damper/shock, engine mount, etc on either or both sides. It would be best to bring it to a mechanic or garage that is familiar with the brand

[@elizabethmcgovern9731]

Thank you will Do Happy weekend Gents paul.

[@DrivewayDudes]

Thanks and you too.

[@peterscally3159]

Can you tell me how to do this on a 2008 vauxhall combo van 1.3

[@MrPippo2012]

On this car the EGR valve is situated near the bulkhead. Air comes from there and then passing through the turbo. Your spray will never reach the EGR valve here because it is situated before the turbo inlet

[@elizabethmcgovern9731]

Thank you yet again i owe you both a pint ,i really am grateful ,paul.

[@joelinden1579]

Can you send the pint in the post mate?

[@paulwood6912]

Can u tell me did this work it would save 200 pound ive put egr value cleaner in fuel tank light stayed out only 3 days i been running it with this fault for 8 months

[@DrivewayDudes]

It worked for us. Used it several times over the space of a year whenever light returned

[@paulwood6912]

I read few comments it won't damage the turbo will it

[@DrivewayDudes]

@@paulwood6912 Didn't damage our turbo

[@paulwood6912]

@@DrivewayDudes thanks ill see what my mechanic thinks thanks for posting video

[@Abibas2040]

Where does the dirt go??. Can it choke the injectors...

[@katothompson3064]

Do I gotta disconnect the battery?

[@steventhornton4716]

Does egr cleaner make a petrol engine smoke as its burning off?

[@DrivewayDudes]

Not all petrol engines have egr valves. If yours does and you spray cleaned it then possibly expect a small amount of smoke initially as its recirculating and burning off. Hope this helps

[@steventhornton4716]

@@DrivewayDudes it's all good I don't think it ever had been cleaned in 117k so was burning all the nasty crud off from the intake it's cleared now though

[@steventhornton4716]

And thank you for your reply

[@elizabethmcgovern9731]

please which oil for the gearbox in a Multispace 1.6 HDi 90 2011 135000 miles it is manual 5 speed a bit of a whine when you let it coast in gear less so when you are accelerating thank you paul.

[@DrivewayDudes]

www.total.co.uk/lub-advisor

[@elizabethmcgovern9731]

Thank you very much Paul.

[@pauldjerassi620]

Good morning Gentlemen how are you after a long and wet winter ?, my 2012 Berlingo Multispace has 137000, miles on it would you think i could change the PCV my self ,to small a job to bother my Auto mechanic with ,keep safe Paul. PS.when are you going to put out some new Citroen quick fixes ideas please

[@DrivewayDudes]

The pcv is inexpensive and not difficult to replace. We are working on some more Citroen videos and will upload in the near future. 👍

[@pauldjerassi620]

Thank you ,keep safe ,Paul D

[@hermanmunster3358]

Where's the before and after comparison? How do we know that this method has worked to clean all the carbon build up??

[@Surfer7901]

Exactly so. If the EGR valve warning was on, did this treatment actually work and the code/warning not come back on again? Skeptic - but hopeful!

[@sharpsconsultancy2342]

did it work i.e remove the error codes?

[@DrivewayDudes]

It worked as a temporary measure. Eventually the egr valve had to be removed a few months later for a intensive clean (see link) kzbin.info/www/bejne/fonUe2OPmLSkhas