A Conversation with Cynthia Thurlow | Jason Fung

[@Kyarrix]

I love listening to her. As a professional woman I appreciate her use of language. She doesn't sugarcoat things, she lets her vocabulary flow and she states things emphatically and clearly. I do have a question though, more of a concern. Why would I want to eat carbohydrates at all? There is no physical need for carbohydrates. Our bodies make the glucose we need through a process called gluconeogenesis. We are, most of us, healthier not eating any carbohydrates and certainly not processed ones, ever. The issue with most plant food, fruit, vegetables grains, any of that, is that it is now grown in depleted soil. We don't rotate crops as we used to, we don't have animals grazing in the fields and fertilizing them. We do it now with chemical fertilizers and we use pesticides and glyphosate, we pick crops before they are ripe, resulting in more oxalates. All of this adds up to a burden that we do not need. If you can get seasonal, locally grown, organic produce from a farm that practices sustainable agriculture and if you are not already sensitive to those foods from a lifetime of eating them with pesticides, then have some. When I can find seasonal organic blackberries or blueberries I'll eat some. But if they're imported, if picked before they're ripe, if they are grown in soil that is depleted, the benefit does not outweigh the detriment to our health. Most people would consider blackberries and blueberries to be whole foods but not the way we grow them today. Comparative analysis shows that fruits and vegetables grown today have a fraction of the nutrients they used to have. There is significantly more downside as a result of the depleted soil, the chemical fertilizers, the pesticides, the oxalates and naturally occurring anti-nutrients in these foods. The nutrients naturally occurring are less biologically available to us. The fact that these foods no longer contain much in the way of nutrients and significant anti-nutrients renders them a bad choice. Eat grass-fed and grass-finished meat. If you can't afford it any meat is better than processed foods. Eat eggs from pasture raised chickens. Some butter is fine for most, some full fat dairy and generally stop there. You can have fish or poultry but primarily eat meat, fatty meat. For the ethical people out there, I care very much about the well-being of animals. I used to be close to vegetarian because of that. I have learned though that our planet and the animals are better off when we practice sustainable agriculture. Mass agriculture as it is practiced today results in far more death to animals than the older cow eaten by a carnivore over the course of 6 months. Combines in fields kill tens of thousands of animals everyday. Mass agriculture results in the destruction of habitats. Glyphosate and other pesticides destroy millions of animals every year poisoning them and us. There are a number of good books on this topic from people who started out vegetarian or vegan. The Vegetarian Myth: Food, Justice, and Sustainability by Lierre Keith is a good example, I highly recommend it.

[@noconspiracytheoriesplease.745]

Everyone is entitled to her own opinion, but I think your comment would be more broadly appreciated if you focused on a compliment of the guest, and your initial question. The rest of your comment comes across as judgemental, unqualified, self-assuring and unhelpful. Your comments infer that anyone who doesn't share your views is unethical. Any doctor or commenter in this space who myopically advocates the benefits of organic foods or grassfed beef, for examples, or who hates on all conventional agriculture, loses credibility. It is a much more nuanced subject.

[@jimk59]

@@noconspiracytheoriesplease.745 I disagree completely. She simply presents the other side of some common misconceptions and provides a reference for people to do their own research. Most watching this channel agree with the low carb diet and all it's benefits.

[@Kyarrix]

@@jimk59 That person has stalked my comments. I'm not sure why he's doing it. When I respond he reports the response and makes complaints that are not valid. It's odd behavior. He either questions my background or makes comments in my direction and suggests that I shouldn't offer information. I'm not sure what to do.

[@MsDeeVee]

I credit Cynthia Thurlow’s Ted Talk for my discovery of IF, which led me to you Dr Fung and to Dr Mindy Pelz. I lost 60 pounds doing IF and changing my diet and am stable since end of last year. I am so grateful!!!

[@Jacquie_Kirk_111]

Dr Fung is the GOAT!

[@01spiropent]

Dr. Fung you are killing-it with the content, can barely keep up. I love it! Thank you so much for your time and contributions.

[@perserverance333]

First. IF with low carbs, I've lost about 20 lbs in 8 months, down to 172 from 192. My face is thinner and I look younger. I also eliminated processed foods and added sugars. Meat and eggs baby!

[@ginalee7704]

❤ Doctor Jason Fong ❤He is the best 👍

[@markwhite6782]

4 years ago I clicked on the Ted X video she put out. I was over weight and on 7 daily meds. What she had to say was unbelievable so I perused it much deeper and found out she was on to something. Here I am 4 years later 52 pounds lighter on no medications but that's not the best part. The best part is knowing I'll never go back to eating the way I used to.

[@mcdade7489]

This was so informative!! Dr Fung is my absolute fav!!

[@kaymorris39]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge Dr. Fung

[@judyfreeman5193]

I agree about menopause. Unfortunately I was raised on the SAD diet. I can't eat anything i used to eat. Thanks to both of you for helping me navigate through this challenging time. I would be miserable without this valuable help. The keto IF lifestyle is saving my life and sanity.

[@downhill64]

Good on you, I have been very strict carnivore for over 17 months, It gets better and better, and you will too

[@westcoastswingmusic]

Thank you Dr. Fung! 🎉

[@sherrischwartz6844]

Thank you, thank you. I don't do the things I should for my health but that's on me. I appreciate your advice and what you are trying to do.

[@damienlucas1]

Thanks

[@LinditaPedersen]

Thank you Dr Fung 🙏 you make so much sense. Keep up the good work

[@holymolar]

Dr. Jason is da Boss of all bosses. I got Funged about 8 years ago. Now at 70 y.o. my only medications are B,B,B, and eggs.

[@mikeycici]

Bbb?

[@jespestana]

He is probably talking about BBBE from Dr Ken Berry, that is, Beef Butter Bacon and Eggs.​@@mikeycici

[@annelouise-qz9vx]

​@@mikeyciciBeef, butter, bacon.

[@anaalanis1043]

Thank you for your help .🙏

[@mazstreats7955]

Another great interview with amazing information.

[@substantialopinion1055]

thank you very much for your works and Happy new year doctors!

[@ruthdella37]

Happy New Year, Dr. Fung!

[@anette5468]

Thank you so much Dr Fung happy new year 🎉

[@JohnsonNestorFamily]

I'm loving these!! Thank you so much! 🎉🎉

[@LEDewey_MD]

I enjoyed hearing Dr. Thurlow very much. With her cardiology expertise, I wonder if she has seen a relationship between hyperinsulinemia and heart arrhythmias, such as re-entry DVT? Thanks!

[@francesgraham5411]

Dr Fung, aha a light bulb moment. You are so right about seeking dopamine from food. I find that as well as eating properly and IF, I will eat chocolate for example, till it’s ALL gone. I have a sweet food addiction so have to avoid all sweet food. Might I suggest doing tai chi for example can become an excellent addiction in stead. It’s ok to have a healthy addiction. And stop that feeling of loss from whatever cause.

[@jamescalifornia2964]

Buddhist ☸️ meditation 🙏

[@mariaa8224]

The processed meat issue...😮‍💨 Dr. Berry recommends hot dogs and spam on a carnivore diet for those who can not afford less processed meats. He says people still get healthier eating that way. 🤷‍♀️

[@raeb5525]

Nutrition density is important.

[@iss8504]

Spam is still better than donuts is the point.

[@mariaa8224]

@iss8504 yes, however, if they are as bad as Dr. Fung says, I don't think Dr. Berry would say it's ok to eat them. I picture him saying something along the lines of "try finding non processed meat on sale." I get the impression that Dr. Berry doesn't think they're bad.

[@cassieoz1702]

One of my greatest disappointments is the majority of ENDOCRINOLOGISTS don't get this stuff

[@iss8504]

The gynecologists not understanding pcos...not a surprise. The same gynecologists treated my hormonal acne with spironolactone, and 20 yeara later i learn the acne =insulin resistance.

[@colleenanderson223]

No one ever talks about we women who no longer have a uteras but have one or two overies. We don't have the marker of bleeding to know where we are in a cycle. Menopause hit me !one a bus because I had no idea where I was without bleeding.

[@cassieoz1702]

The role of carbs depends on what your specific health needs are. CGMs are helping to bust many of the 'good carbs' myths and showing that complex Vs simple carbs, resistant starch, glycaemic index, just DONT work for everyone. In some individuals, continuing to follow the 'good carbs' advice results in unacceptable BGL excursions

[@sharonmagdalenebooysen2874]

I would like know about 60years and over 60.years program to intermitting fasting I am not lean ,weight is 75kg,but would like to loose 10kg ..only arthritis,and cholesterol that's high

[@celinesadananda1256]

Is increased LDL ok in keto.....?

[@downhill64]

Really depends how long you were eating the crappie very damaging plant base diet, seed oils grains etc will produce small damage LDL and that will be a much higher heart risk, if on a animal base diet with zero carbs so not producing much insulin your LDL particle size will be large buoyant LDL which is good for you, Latest 60 thousand person 20 year gold standard study released last year showed people with low LDL had a higher mortality rate.

[@georgeforeman7121]

I didn't think Jason was ever going to stop belaboring the point about calorie counting...

[@LizzieSutton]

my kids all in their 20’s still think calories in calories out. so this old debunked theory has still brainwashed most

[@canonen100]

I have to disagree with you on the carbs. If someone is an alcoholic you wouldn’t recommend them having a drink every Saturday.

[@jamescalifornia2964]

• NO🚫STARCH •

[@carlton7015]

How old are you?

[@ginalee7704]

I'm 70

[@Babs-29]

Can you comment on post menopausal fasting and any recommendations? Also farting while taking 20.mg of Prednisone daily..... any suggestions. I've tapered from 60 mg daily but will stay on 20 mg due to EGPA. I've gained 25 pounds in 5 months due to Prednisone. Also now on a CGM because basically I have a steroid induced diabetes. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated

[@colleenmatulickclarke2059]

Thirty plus years of life for women after menopause wasn't addressed.

[@StarvingMyselfToLIFE]

There's no such thing as an expert in Fasting. We are all unique. Fasting is prolonged abstinence. Why does one need an "expert"? How come we don't have an expert on sleeping, breathing, walking etc. What we need to find out, is eating every day required, or can we achieve optimal nourishment every 2-3 days? People need to be encouraged to discover what works fpr them, not what worked on hundreds of lab rats, or even human subjects after an,2-7 day fast....I value personal testimonies as much as anyone, but I also know, the results had by others will most likely NOT be my experience, precisely.....

[@ScienceAppliedForGood]

It is correct that people are different and have different responses to the same treatment, but research in medicine, physiology and nutrition is based on average results from a number of people in a trial. This is what mentioned in textbooks on physiology and in science papers. So the research provides a baseline that works that we can have as a reference point.

[@StarvingMyselfToLIFE]

@ScienceAppliedForGood Yes I understand... And all the while, General health condition of the population (America) is getting progressively worse....Obvious, this is not working. Perhaps the time for a shift in approach is now?🤔

[@GaretCrossman]

We do have experts on sleeping, breathing, and walking. Obviously we do. Tell me about your time on Mars.

[@StarvingMyselfToLIFE]

@GaretCrossman No we don't. We have people who call themselves experts and millions who blindly believe them...which one are you?

[@holymolar]

Wait just a gosh darn minute. I am an expert on fasting, now you can please send me fifty bucks!!