DJI Mavic Pro Charging Hub Teardown - What's The Difference Between Them?

[@Dronevalley]

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[@123Conker123]

Hi Sir. Very good video. You cleared a lot of my questions. Thanks for posting this video. I will use your provided link to purchased an Advance Hub

[@Decco10000]

Appreciate your intelligent and cogent posting

[@Decco10000]

Have you an opinion re it worth waiting for Magic 2?

[@darrelloldmanoftechhook540]

Wonderful job Rick. I picked up a Mavic Pro charger from a third party because I got tired of waiting the hours necessary for my batteries (6) to charge. However, I do run them through the standard cycle equipment every 3rd or 4th cycle just so it all talks to each other. I did not realize though the level of sophistication that DJI put into their hubs. It amazes me that they do this at the price points they hit. Again, great job on this video clip.

[@floorpizza8074]

This video appeared randomly as a "suggested video" for me, and I'm really glad it did! This video was incredibly informative, and didn't feel like an extended advertisement for your company. I believed I just about have my wife worn down, and will be purchasing a Mavic Pro Fly More package soon. Prior to watching this video, I was just going to order it off of Amazon and call it good. Now you can bet I'll be buying it from Drone Valley. Really enjoying your videos. Your ability to teach things in an entertaining way is fantastic. Not to mention that the production quality of your videos is top notch. Thumbs up and subscribed.

[@Photoma]

Product code explanation: M1CH-S S for "Standard version" M1CH-P P for "Pro version"

[@antebellum45]

LOVE your logic and following your reasoning makes a lot of sense! "Nuances that no one cares about" are the difference between ho-hum and diving in and finding out!

[@blb86]

I love the advance charging hub it saved me from having to buy a second car charger for my mavic since I already own a phantom 4 car charger. Love your channel and I recommend it all my friends in my drone group. Keep up the good work I truly enjoy how detailed and full of information your videos are.

[@ml66b]

Wow. I'm new to drone ownership and I've been doing a lot of research. I could tell within the first 2 minutes that I was watching and learning from a pro. Thank your spending the time to do this Sir. Kind regards from Scotland.

[@mr.tuckers2848]

Thanks again for a great video Rick!! Spoken and described like a true EE Engineer. I bet EE Tech's have great joy working with and supporting you. =)

[@MrHammer102]

This was some great information as usually Rick. It was actually more information than I needed, but I still watched the entire 18:51 minutes of it, it held my attention, and I found it fascinating. I will be purchasing a Mavic Pro as I already have a P4P, so the information about using the P4P charger was great. Thanks again Rick and when I do buy my Mavic Pro I will indeed purchase the Advance Hub from your site. Love the information you put out. Keep up the great work.

[@nelversonng]

your blog on dji was very detail on this topic. i had this question when i noted that dji got 2 different hub. thanks very much for the sharing.

[@raykeogh1972]

I don't have a mavic or a phantom pro but that was a great in dept video and having suffered a stroke I could take in all of what you said with ease . Thanks Ray K.

[@DennisLovelady]

Very detailed and useful analysis. Great job, Rick.

[@mistercapitale]

You're awesome. Very informative. Thank you for doing this video.

[@peterhughes2091]

Thanks Rick, very enjoyable and informative as usual. Really like the tear down.....I'm afraid my curiosity would have gotten the better of me eventually and I would have had to have looked so now I'm saved from that. Take care and safe flying Peter.

[@rcOhio]

Drone Valley I've seen a lot of the other third party chargers you just mentioned. As enticing as they sound, I always like to stick to the proprietary products when it comes to electronics. The other chargers always seem bigger and harder to pack as well. However, I will certainly watch your videos on these products!

[@wfose1]

Nice job Rick, you sold me.

[@tswitz65]

Love your videos Rick! You're by far my favorite channel on drones. Your thorough analysis, explanations and most of all - maturity as a responsible adult in your appearance and decorum are much appreciated. You set the standard for video production as well as how to be a responsible owner of a very sophisticated and powerful aircraft. As a fellow engineer I have found a kindred spirit here on KZbin. Thank you for all of your forethought and hard work in making these videos!

[@tamasvarga67]

Awesome review just what I needed to help me decide. Nice to see that DJI doesn't cheap out on these things and building quality stuff.

[@Don-kh3ll]

Thanks Rick, another great video. Glad you're having fun making them as they are really useful.

[@dragonz83088]

Thank you for educating me.

[@om1882]

Very nice comparison. I like it. And appreciate the time you spent for this review. Only one thing I'm worried about is battery's life. What I understand between changing time and battery life is : The quicker the charging time, The hotter the batteries and The shorter the batteries life. What about that concept and do you think it's gonna affect battery's life?

[@druesteele]

great video - very thorough.. i like it when people really ask why things are done :)

[@thataussiebastard8665]

I think that the plastic guide #1 was probably first designed for the standard hub (like a universal hub ) ..but found in the testing process that the phantom 4 charging unit was burning the hubs out ..so they made the plastic guide #2 so only the mavic charger would fit ..until the they could find solutions required to create the Gen2 hub or advanced hub as we know it

[@Scott-px7jj]

Hey Rick thanks for your great reviews. I have purchased several items from your webpage because of the trust I have in your reviews. I would however like to ask you to review the DJI Propeller Cage for Mavic Pro. I got mine today and had a very bad experience with it. At first I really liked it because it allowed me to travel in tight spaces with out the worry of running a prop through a bush or tree. But then I had to climb to get over a house and things went bad really bad. Now keep in mind I was not racing the drone around. I was moving very slow. I stopped and hovered over the house about 50' above it to get a pan of the area and then started back down. As the drone started to descend I saw it start to yaw left and right. I stopped the decent but the yawning continued, I then tried to climb in hopes of leveling the drone but again no luck. I tried to return to a hover but the drone started yawning violently and began to just fall out of the sky. When I recovered the Mavic I noticed that the cages 2 and 3 had broken props. During the violent yawning the props got caught in the wire mesh and then were ripped of the prop mounts by the motors. I also noticed that the cage lock that held cage 2 and 3 together was missing and was unable to be found. The cage lock for cages 1 and 4 was laying on the ground near by were the drone had crashed. When I put the cage locks on I made sure to follow the directions (I read the directions completely). I made sure that the lock was properly seated and I heard the clicks when the lock latched on to each cage. I doubled checked the lock to make sure it was seated correctly and was locked into place. At some point during the flight the cage lock must have broke because cages 2 and 3 could be seen moving independently from one another and this motion caused the violent yawning that brought the drone down. I would like you to review this item to make sure this was a freak event because if not DJI has a flaw in there design that could result in a serious injury or sever damage while using this product. This product is great for getting into tight spaces and for use inside. I will be calling DJI tomorrow to see if they are going to replace my drone and the cage system for free or whether I have to use my DJI refresh Inc. I bought with the drone. Sorry to be long winded. If you want to contact me my email is [e-mail]

[@fj1100mark]

Brilliant video absolutely loved it and understood every word I guess physics A-levels and being a Radio ham comes in handy sometimes so tell me all these years later have there actually been any updates for the hub firmware

[@Josho4]

Very informative! Thanks for the breakdown, Rick!

[@gregupton6188]

Thanks Rick, great coverage as always. Wow. I never knew until now about that USB port on my mavic hub! Well I'll be darned!

[@616Drones]

Thanks for the review, I do have both and notice the differences in charging time.

[@robertworsena9080]

Very nice intelligent comments on these chargers. Thanks for the info. Robert / Delray Bch Florida

[@SeanOzz]

have you torn apart one of the aftermarket 5-1 chargers to compare? would love to hear your take on one of those compared to the standard and advanced hub.

[@mogulsmoke2428]

This is a fantastic explanation of the chargers. Thank you... Item of note: my Mavic Pro Platinum is less than a month old from sale new at BestBuy. I bought the fly-more version and very glad that I did. Interesting fact is they put the Standard hub in a new fly-more kit. I would have paid $25 more for the P version in the kit. I really enjoy the educational aspect of your videos. I just bought a iPad Mini 2 (refurbished) just to fly my Mavic Pro and it looks like new. Before I upgrade from IOS 11. will the current IOS 12. version run on the min 2 with go DJI GO 4 app? Thanks for all your help.

[@pm29040]

Thanks Rick. Great review. I'll just stick to the standard hub I've already got. Would be nice to charge simultaneously though. Maybe in a future update hopefully. Just curious, did you happen to notice the manufacture of the PCB power connector to the board? Were the leads soldered and then coated or is it a different type of power connection to the boards?

[@cython5150]

Thanks for the review Rick, very useful info! Have a quick question about the higher voltage/amperage (double the wattage as you explained) of the Advanced Hub --- will that lead to reduce battery lifespan through faster charging? This seems to be a characteristic of most Lithium Ion batteries as far as I understand.

[@paulkazjack]

Yes it WILL reduce the cycle life of your cells!!

[@cython5150]

Ah okay, thanks for the confirmation! Unfortunate there are always tradeoffs between recharge speed and long-term durability.

[@gravitymediapro]

Great and interesting video - I was curious about the difference too. I appreciate your work and dedication to teaching us more about our quads. Thank you!

[@Dygear]

Excellent breakdown!

[@mariusuys2693]

Hi Rick great show please keep it coming. Do you have any news or updates if fixed wing mode will come to the inspire 1 series as this is an excellent mode for flying and having some fun. Once more big fan and great job.

[@terryandteresa]

Doesn't fast charging Lipo batteries harm them? I thought a slow charge was far better for lipo's??

[@paulolobo837]

I dont know your name, and yes i can search for it, but for now i just want to tell you that you have a good knowdlege of electronics ! Congrats and keep your brain in action ! Best Regards !

[@seriallikeer5956]

So that's what the small USB is for I thought it might be for charging the controller good job i watched this thanks

[@BartHuzaimi]

Excellent video.... Thanks for sharing

[@harvey19750]

Hi Rick Fantastic video. Would there still an advantage using the advanced hub with a phantom

[@907nvl]

One of your best videos. Please keep them coming👍

[@MoiraOBrien]

Very comprehensive Rick

[@aboveusimage]

hi! It work with the 160W phantom 4 charger? tks

[@enriquefuentesc]

Hey Rick, quick question. Does the advanced charging hub require a 100w brick? Meaning if I use the regular (50w) brick that came with my original charging hub on the advanced charging hub will I be able to take advantage of the faster charging time?

[@Hidden_Destinations]

Rick, is the Phantom 4 CAR CHARGER compatible with the advanced hub to use with the Mavic. I bet everyone wants to know.... thanks!

[@sparkyondub2z]

Great video as usual thank you for the info. Witch would be faster the advanced hub with phantom 4 charger or the 5to 1 (blue) charger ?

[@sp4859]

On my Mavic Pro Advanced Charging Hub, it charges 2 batteries at the same time (I have 3 batteries in it, and 2 of the batteries both have their lights flashing at the same time). I'm using the regular charger and 3 regular batteries that comes with the Mavic Pro Plat. Now I'm wondering if that's a good thing, that it charges 2 at a time, or is that a defect that's making it do that?

[@andymeyer2127]

Thank you for the fantastic work. Do you think, if I order a new mavic, will they deliver the standard or the advanced charging hub?

[@DavidJames-uv7yc]

Very informative. I appreciate the engineering point of view. Keep em coming.

[@kengardner2087]

What do you think of the DJI digital quad charger? Ken

[@71cbon]

Good job, only thing I tore apart was the Mavic controller and that was just to get the new antennas on. Otherwise thanks for doing the work for all of us so we don't have too.

[@ElectricalDynamo]

very professional job what great great help full video i will check more in to this thanks

[@choyjungwearn]

Can I use the micro USB to charge the batteries with a computer or phone charger if i forget the adapter?

[@ferik.-aerodron1854]

nice video Rick

[@nephroghost1912]

Yet another great informative video!👍🏽

[@Dronevalley]

Thanks for the post and I'm glad that you enjoyed the clip. I'll have more content posting this week so be sure to stop back soon. Rick

[@nephroghost1912]

Thanks again Rick!

[@russquattlebaum1122]

Is there a difference with the car charging?

[@kiler3572]

i have a12volt charger for in the car what is the charging difference between the (m1ch-s ) & (M1ch-p )

[@DialGEE]

Hi, Great Video. Do you know if it’s possible to use a 160W Phantom 4 Charger with DJI Mavic Pro batteries with an Advance Hub?

[@seq2albert]

G Leslie, yes. It’s compatible

[@BIGDRONEFLYER77RC]

hi rick thanks for the video.

[@hubadonga]

Howdy Rick. Could you please 1) Take the plastic guide labeled 1 from the advanced hub and put it in the standard hub. 2) Connect the Phantom charger to the standard hub and try to charge 4 batteries. Please make a video and show us how that goes? Cheers.

[@CarolienSalari]

Naseem Mansoor yes i waant to see that to.

[@Dronevalley]

Naseem, that seems like a good idea but the circuitry needed to regulate the higher voltage of the Phantom 4 charger isn't in the Standard version of the hub. I wish it was that simple but I expect the outcome of the experiment would be a puff of smoke :) I will be giving both of these hubs away on one of my future blogs so be sure to stay tuned and subscribe to the channel. Rick

[@tomtrotter8222]

Great info. Wish I had found this before buying the Inspire 2 charger to charge the Crystal Sky batteries. That thing is a huge brick. Now I am going to go with the Phantom 4 160w charger,and the Mavic advanced hub so that I can carry one charger to charge my Mavic Pro batteries, the Mavic controller off the crystal sky battery hub USB port, and the Crystal Sky batteries and leave the original mavic charger and the Inspire charger at home. wish DJI allowed for returns 30 days out and not just 14 days as now I will have to eat the cost of the Inspire charger. But thank you for good info.

[@MrGtino74]

Can you leave the batteries to charge overnight is it ok ?

[@ChadJay]

M1CH-S = mavic standard (tbr). M1CH-P = mavic pro. Due to issues with the P hub they released the S version with mavic pro. Just my opinion.

[@EmanuelPontes1983]

Amazing how deep you go into this subject. Very interesting indeed. Keep up the good work.

[@kawarthaleather6659]

great video Rick.... Steve

[@matteo92065]

great detailed video

[@captainrick9379]

Great Info! Thanks Rick! ...... Oh, By the way Rick, NASA is looking for a few guys like you!

[@orcalator]

Real advanced version will be when thay make simultaneously battery charging possible. Now i wonder what kind of hub they ship with Mavic Pro Platinum.

[@The10thManRules]

Please compare and contrast the DJI advanced charger with the FSLabs DJI Mavic Pro 5 In 1 Rapid Battery Charger.

[@Dronevalley]

Thanks for the post. I use the 5-in-1 charger to charge my cells. The main advantage over the hubs is that it charges all 3 cells, the controller and my tablet at the same time, which is much faster. There are a few versions of the 5-in-1 out there and the one we offer on the site has all of the Gen 2 safety upgrades installed. Here's a link if you want to check it out - tinyurl.com/y986ly2g

[@K8URChannel]

I need to tap into the Mavic Pro battery to power some add-ons via a regulator good for up to 5 amps. Ideas?

[@AmauryJacquot]

is collar #1 used in the phantom charging hub by chance ?

[@emack524]

Great Video as Usual!!!

[@yuzual9506]

I love u, thx a lot, from france and new dji customer, with the mavic pro

[@pauliedriver4127]

Wow another great 👍🏽 batch of info! What’s tour opinion on the “Thor” charger sold by Drone World ? I’m really impressed at there carbon fiber skins & the Thor charger for $99 caught my eye. Thanks for all your amazing videos & dedication your a real professional

[@cnyphotovideo]

Well I'm glad that DJI engineered a great hub. And they make terrific drones. Now if they could just teach the people at customer service some communication skills things would be great!

[@ericnordean88]

I've got an off base question for ya Rick: has your Mavic gotten slower? I've noticed breaking 20mph has become near impossible, where I once could get near 40. Just thought I'd run it by you as another Mavic pilot. Thanks- Eric

[@DieselBlack]

#EVTV __ I've been flying my Mavic for a week now, and I'm really interested in this answer-if only to know that I should/shouldn't/might expect performance changes.

[@juliopuga1208]

#EVTV __ I had my Mavic for months and I really haven't noticed a difference. But then again didn't take any before and after test...

[@gravitymediapro]

#EVTV __ It seems like the difference between Sport Mode and GPS Mode. I know that seems basic, but has the switch in your controller changed?

[@ericnordean88]

Unfortunately, I've only ever been in sport mode. As I've had quite a while to fly my Mavic and I feel the connection between my drone and I. I always fly a controlled flight path to be sure my drone isn't having any malfunctions for about 5 minutes. Averaging a 20 minute flight time; I make sure to gather my footage that I intend to with precision and accuracy. This why I've been able to see a difference in my speed. I'm extremely curious if I'm alone in the issue or not and I know I can trust ricks experience as well as weighing in the input from other viewers. Thanks guys. Sorry to depreciate anyone's confidence in their Mavic if I have.

[@ericnordean88]

Daytona 6263 I appreciate the gain on perspective. I can't help but to get the sense that it has something to do with the updates... as it wasn't until the update before last that this problem has come up. In all honesty; I didn't think about running in nothing but sport mode as being a problem until long after I said it on here, it doesn't seem like a good idea. I am only going onto my 10th hour of flight time with the quad and would be really disappointed if it's the motors already.

[@corpablo]

In short words which is better?

[@francescov.6886]

hello, but the two versions have the exact same measures ??? it is true that the advanced Hub balances the battery cells ??? which recommended version to buy ??? thank you all!

[@Dronevalley]

The big difference is the charging process for the advanced model. They are close on price so I always recommend the Advanced version because it will charge the cells faster to allow you to get back out and flying! Thanks for the post and be sure an sub the channel. Rick

[@rekunta]

Are the any official DJI chargers that charge all at the same time? I’ve seen unofficial ones but hear they’re risky. Anyone know?

[@CX15000]

Has anyone compared the two different Phantom 4 chargers with the Mavic hub? One is 100W and one is 160W. Any difference in charging times?

[@drummerdonniedotcom]

Good review. Good production value. Subscribed.

[@Dronevalley]

Donnie, thanks for the post and be stop back soon for more clips! Rick

[@skipfoto]

My Bad! I watched and listened to your video and was impressed about how the M1CH-P would charge 4 DJI Phantom 4 batteries. I purchased the M1CH-P thinking it would be an advantage since I have DJI Product, but I did not realize that the design of the batteries from the DJI Phantom 4 changed when they brought out the Phantom 4 Pro much to my surprise. I know now that the DJI Phantom 4 Pro batteries do not fit the 4 station charger. My Bad. You made the M1CH-P sound so good I failed to see that this video was made in 2017 and was completely out of date as the newer Phantom 4 Pro batteries are completely unusable as they must have completely redesigned the batteries. I really liked the idea you could charge 4 batteries all at once as I have 4 batteries. The newer version of the charging station only has 3 stations.

[@Dronevalley]

Roy, sorry for the confusion. As you said, I did this clip a long while back and the P4P cells are slightly different. If you are looking for a quicker way of charging your Phantom 4 cells, we do sell a 4 battery charger that will charge all 4 cells at the same time safely to get you back out and flying quickly. Here's a link if you want to check it out - tinyurl.com/y4thnzph. I have plenty of them in stock and can ship one out in the morning. Rick

[@JohnyMoSwag]

Great Video!

[@Utkarsh_A]

Great Video, getting a Mavic Pro Platinum soon and this is very interesting. Subbed :D

[@Dronevalley]

Good luck with that drone. It's an amazing quad and you're going to love flying it. One of my favorites by far! In fact, I'm charging my Mavic Pro batteries right now and am heading out to fly. Have fun and stop back soon! Rick

[@Utkarsh_A]

Have fun I can't wait :D best part about previously working at DJI, I'm getting the combo at Staff price

[@alfred-ix8pg]

I m so glad to have discovered your channel! Hhh

[@DanielWPrado]

HI! I put my batteries to discharge in 1 day if I don´t use it. After some days I charged the batteries and put in my Mavic and it shows Battery error. Do you know any case like this?

[@Dronevalley]

You might try "resetting" the battery by draining it until the lights go out. Even though it appears dead at this point, there is still about 10% of the charge left in the cell. By doing this, you'll reset the metrics in the battery and start fresh when you charge it back up. Once you've depleted it, charge it and you should be fine.

[@TKO593]

I need to have a short discussion with you Rick privately. Any way to contact you? Please help. Thanks in advance.

[@paulkazjack]

I really wish I could choose my own input current to the cells so as to extend the cycle life of the batteries. 300mah overnight would do nicely, instead of the ridiculous 3amps or so we're stuck with.

[@Dronevalley]

Thanks for the post but the DJI batteries have a controller built into them to do that for you. The difference between these cells and the more common LiPo ones used in RC was that with RC the cells are "dumb" and you need a smart operator with a charger you can control how they are charged. With the DJI batteries, the charger is "dumb" and the cells are smart and can regulate themselves through the charging (and discharging) cycle to provide the optimum current needed. I appreciate the post and hope that helps. Rick

[@BrixsDNAfortnite]

Great video! You rock sir!

[@ClareGPhotos]

I don't own the phantom 4, but I have the advanced hub with 3 mavic batteries. Is it worth it to buy the phantom charger for the faster charging? It's 55 dollars, so idk if I should spend it for the faster charging. But if it is worth it, I will :D

[@Dronevalley]

If you're not planning on buying the Phantom series, adding a Phantom power supply to the hub is expensive and will still only charge them one at a time. A better option would be an aftermarket charger like this one - tinyurl.com/y986ly2g - that will charge 3 cells at the same time as well as the controller and your phone. It's the one I use at home and it works great for getting you out the door and flying quickly. Thanks for posting, Rick

[@Bobster986]

Speed isn't always better when it cones to lithium ion batteries. Fast charger equals shorter battery lifespan..

[@cython5150]

That's exactly what I was wondering... wonder how much it reduces the lifespan...

[@cython5150]

Interesting way to frame it! I think that makes sense. These new batteries are extremely intelligent an powerful for their compact size

[@ivanwong8361]

Fast charging does shorten Lipo (or lithium-based) battery life in long term. This is battery charging 101 if you are into the RC hobby. Every consumer grade Lithunium battery has a recommended charging rating, I have yet to see any exception. Tesla does have a patent about minimizing damage caused by fast charging (1), but they still apply throttle to charging rate if you use supercharge too often (2). 1. www.patentsencyclopedia.com/app/20130221928 2. teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/if-you-fast-charge-tesla-will-permanently-throttle-charging.90230/

[@dereksmith7770]

Great video

[@juanbernal2976]

Super video. The best

[@Ecohen52784]

Missed you, great clip!!! Thank You As Always For Great Information

[@RoamingCam]

I was looking at the DJI store and noticed that the new 160w phantom charger is compatible with the Mavic pro advanced hub. Do you think the 160w would be safe to charge the Mavic batteries? How would it compare with 100w charger?

[@CX15000]

Jay Bikas I also want to know this

[@seq2albert]

Yes. It’s compatible

[@CX15000]

But would it be even faster than the 100W?

[@seq2albert]

CX15000, yes it does

[@hungryhippo2]

It is quite strange that DJI decided to ship a charger that will spend more than 5 hours to charge the 4 batteries, when a 100 w charger can at least cut that in half. This is not a cheap drone.

[@LJvelardi]

Rick have you tried plugging a power bank into the Mavic Pro Standard Charging Hub though the USB port to see if it could power up the batteries?

[@whitescroll]

Mate, you should work there .

[@radialblue4492]

The P probably stands for Pro, like S for Standard, P for Pro