Droplets Interactions, Misplays, Trap Monsters META Rulings, Remote Duel Invitational + ROTD

[@AdamissZERO]

Congratulations man on the wedding!!!!!!

[@solomonher6098]

0:13 I thought you was going to make a heart with your hands for some reason. Lol.

[@LowellLucasJr.]

I'm a married now and now I gotta school u in the ways of Tripple T & Droplets! * But Daddy Tombox...? That's MR. TOMBOX TO YOU!

[@dpham8907]

Congrats on getting married! Here's to a fusion that won't get negated!

[@holierthanu1]

they have to overlay to make the fusion though ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@MohIdrisSumantri]

Anyway paleozoic uneffected by card eff, so Konami really big brain lmao

[@SahnigReingeloetet]

Sending activated cards with Droplets always feels nutty

[@nark0303ONC]

So we are applying in the TCG all the Rulings the OCG got with MR2020 or just the Trap Monster one? I really need to know if we can attempt to summon OPT "Special Summon" monsters like Dingirsu more than once if the first summon attempt gets negated by a Solemn

[@marcoortiz6616]

Felicidades ! Congratulations !

[@triixx575]

Always with the big brain interactions! 10/10! 10000 IQ

[@LE-1]

Very interesting rulings as always, and best wishes for your wedding!

[@rexamai4982]

Best wishes for you marriage, congrats!

[@jefreestyles]

Congratulations on your wedding and I hope there are some Yugioh themes. Like a Millennium puzzle gift box to hold your wedding cards.

[@spieralala6818]

Congratulations! And have a nice honeymoon!

[@blind0wl123]

Congrats on the wedding. I like droplets for the situational interactions that can come up. For example if your opponent is playing invoked dogmatika and they have eldlich traps and a mechaba with a trap in hand and you have droplets and evenly matched then you can go into battlephase and activate evenly to have it negated by mechaba then you can chain droplets by sending evenly to negate mechaba and since you Sent a trap they can't chain their backrow to the resolution of evenly.

[@campa20cm96]

Also your opponent should remove the entire field, because on resolution as evenly is no longer face up on the field, you have 0 cards

[@topsycho4451]

@@campa20cm96 Droplets is on the field

[@88cturner]

@@topsycho4451 droplet is cl3 so it should resolve first and be off field by the time evenly cl1 resolves

[@topsycho4451]

@@88cturner Spells/Traps do not go to the graveyard until after the Entire Chain resolves. Droplets would stay on the field until another card removed it, or the chain is over and Spell/Traps that would normally be sent to grave after activation are sent there

[@88cturner]

@@topsycho4451 oh wow I thought they go to grave after they resolved thanks for the correction

[@analoghabits9217]

If after droplet is activated, enough selectable monsters get their effects negated before droplet resolves, can droplet be unable to resolve its effects since the 'also their effects are negated' can't resolve?

[@nickching3128]

Congratulations 🎊 on the wedding!! Hope the day bis perfect!

[@RJP0PE1]

@7:12 would that mean that if macro cosmos/dimensional fissure/banisher of the radiance are on the field, droplet cannot use monsters as well because they wouldn't go to the graveyard?

[@MSTTV]

If you have macro up.. droplet can't be activated. d fissure, just prevents monster from being used as cost.

[@JABRIEL251]

The only thing I understood here was you're getting married, CONGRATULATION!

[@Kasakage100]

Is that a tonberry in the background?

AH yes.. true Love, it really does wonders. Congrats MST.TV. i wish you luck my guy, and hope yall bond is unbreakable

[@matrixsean]

Congrats!! Thanks so much for the content!

[@Nickscarangella]

For dogmatika punishment you still send from extra deck even if the target leaves the field. The target requirements are met and sending from extra is the initial effect. The latter effect doesnt need to be met for the initial to resolve

[@MSTTV]

You do not send anything.... there is target stat is missing... You cannot match the ATK of a non-existing monster. If the monster is flipped face down again, you do NOT send. www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=5&fid=8230&request_locale=ja yugipedia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Dogmatika_Punishment

[@monster25cr]

My boy tombox coming in with the spice as always! thank you good sir, also congratulations on the wedding!! Hope nishi is your best man!

[@GHROCKON]

atk modifier doubt: (please I need a clarification on this scenario) I have black garden on field, a lv3 token and a coral dragon, and 1 card in hand I synchro summon into crocodragon, cl1 garden cl2 croco cl3 coral at cl1 when garden halve croco atk, croco was gaining 1500 boost, so he was 2500atk, then halve into 1250. now what happen if I set my 3 cards in hand? does he goes to 0 atk? what if I draw 3 cards after? does he return to 1250? or goes into 1500? or what happen if I simply draw a card and have 4 in hand now, does he goes from 1250 to 1750? how to calculate his atk in general? when his atk was modified by black garden

[@michaeldimisa5707]

once his attack is halved, it will remained at that atk until the additional attack modifier is removed. In the case of Black Garden, the modifier will stay so long as its on the field, so its atk will always be at 1250 for this scenario

[@GrammarPrince1992]

Congratulations, best wishes, and good luck!

[@ahmedjiman]

I have a question, if imperial order is on the field and i activated lightening storm then chained droplet by sending lightening to the graveyard as a cost to negate a monster , would lightening resolve ? just like Access effect under Skill drain ( obviously droplets won’t resolve )

[@jcjr2869]

Hey Tom can u rule this- I activated miscellaneous from hand and special a lv1 dino Opponent activated world legacy secrets and a mekknights is on the same colum as the dino does the dinos effect gets negated?

[@MSTTV]

Well, if same phase, you control the dino then no. As your dinos in your control in that main phase are unaffected by all card fx.

[@jcjr2869]

@@MSTTV my friends still says" it's still negated because it's the same as a skill drain" would my lv1 dino still resolve on Field? Appreciate you Tom! Reason y I wanna be sure is because this keeps happening and it causes a whole argument like no joke🤦‍♂️

[@topsycho4451]

@@jcjr2869 World Legacy Secrets has a Continuous Effect to negate any activated monster effect that resolves in the same column as a Mekk Knight you control. Miscellaneousaurus only makes Dinosaurs unaffected by ACTIVATED effects of your cards, not all effects. Continuous and lingering effects, like True King of All Calamities, World Legacy Secret, and Skill Drain, will STILL AFFECT Dinosaurs while Miscellaneousaurus is applying.

[@MSTTV]

@@jcjr2869 ur friend is correct I misread the card. Miscellaneous does not protect vs continuous effects. They are still affects my continuous

[@MSTTV]

Correctuon: because miscellaneous doesn't protect vs continuous effects... It will be negated and not activate. The wording is important.

[@orcustdashti2280]

@15:35 what about if the targeted monster increased its atk like aliester increasing mechaba and the opponent doesnt have any extra deck monster that has equal / higher atk than its current atk? it shouldn't send anything

[@ramaroy2408]

Yeah it won't send anything and punishment fizzle. To make it worse the one who used punishment can't use their ED.

[@sgxcgtkzuaxe4053]

@@ramaroy2408 he said the f-word monkaW

[@23jewfan]

About the Mystic Mine/Punishment issue, can you pop the Mine with N'st if both players have the same number of monsters after Punishment resolves?

[@ramaroy2408]

Yes

[@peterburke7812]

question if a card has an effect when sent to graveyard while in your possession can it activate after being sent from extra deck by an effect like dogmatika maximus?

[@MSTTV]

Yes, if u are thinking cyber dragon Nova. This was discussed in the previous ruling vid.

[@Osindileyo]

I wonder if we’ll get the rest of the ruling changes the OCG got

[@ivan-pk1wq]

I see you evrevhere mister tsuchinoko

[@Osindileyo]

ivan 1007 I am everywhere

[@Lionthehawaiian]

If you forbidden droplets target abc buster and send a monster to negate him, after resolution of droplets if you activate abc buster tributing him to special union pieces does it resolve? Or does droplets follow to the grave?

[@dancemademyday3686]

Can i send „generaider Tokens“ or any token to activate droplet ?

[@luckyilagged2424]

No

[@PiantaBroker]

11:27 So when is this ruling released in TCG?

[@topsycho4451]

Not until Konami TCG makes an official statement about the rulings carrying over.

[@sepra7262]

If you have shenshen on your side of the field, can you use forbidden droplet to send shenshen and few others from field to the graveyard? Or just shenshen?

[@captaincheeseforrest898]

Hello Tombox, Can you explain how droplet would half the attack of a card like gren AND negate its effects but the gren wouldn't be at 0..when the conjunction used on droplet is "also". Meaning, the negation and the attack half happen at the same time? I am really not understanding this one. Thanks.

[@MSTTV]

Halfing the attack is equivalent to atk becomes half and negates. Although the effects are considered simultaneously, the execution is still one after another. Since the attack becomes half it freezes the atk at the moment of half, then the effect becomes negates. Since the atk is frozen while droplet is applied it won't go to 0.

[@MSTTV]

It's like when 2 continuous effects clash which one happens first? Utopia double vs sky striker shizuku. Well something is there to determine which is first, in 1 case the turn players effects would apply first in that specific case.

[@giantkillerreplays7817]

I don't understand the interaction with gren majuu. Can someone explain it to me?

[@arzeenine]

Droplet halves ATK before it negates, so Maju gets frozen at whatever ATK.

[@orelvesbello8987]

very interesting thanks for the explanation greetings from Cuba

[@nicholasmathison3651]

Amazing content as always brother!

[@PunkerMarth]

i've been trying to find this answer. if your opponent droll & lock birds you. can you still draw 2 off of triple tactics talent? or can you only forceful sentry from there?

[@SoraNeku]

Congrats!

[@rm25365]

MST.TV With the trap monster if my golden land trap cards if my opponent uses ulti conductor or book of eclipse and all my traps go back to the spell and trap zone, are they considered set that turn and cannot be used? Or can you go ahead and activate them?

[@rm25365]

Cards like subterror final battle specifically say “set” -“Activate 1 of these effects, also, after that, Set this card face-down instead of sending it to the Graveyard.”

[@topsycho4451]

If a Trap monster is flipped face-down, it is Set to the Spell/Trap Zone. Since it is Set, it cannot be activated until the next turn, basically like Setting a Trap normally

[@demetriusforbesiii9705]

Does droplets target?

[@randomguy6932]

Congrats on getting married fam

[@cybergogeta0433]

Congrats to you

[@abelahmad8629]

so if zoodiac xyz have atk total 2k.if get droplet, atk will down to 1k and eff negate like gren maju interaction you mention?

[@husseinmoussa2947]

forbidden droplet on abc dragon buster in another chain I activate to banish and tribute would both effects resolve because he is no longer on the field?

[@MSTTV]

If the effects of droplet is already applied. You resolve with no effect for both effects.

[@MSTTV]

Given that it is still the same turn that droplet had applied.

[@husseinmoussa2947]

@@MSTTV hmmm but shouldn‘t the monster effect resolve even when already applied because the card isn‘t on the field anymore or would that just be the case if the text on droplet said “negate the effect of the card(s) on the field“ But thxxx :)

[@HiMarioLopez]

Congrats on getting married soon!! 🎉 🎊

[@felixboulnot6258]

Hi @MST.TV i've question about ruling. If my opponent uses ash or any handtrap monsters and i response with called by the grave. After that can i use TTT effect cause it says that it could be activated if my opponent has activated a monster effect during my main phase. Called by negate the effect but not the activation of the card. Thanks

[@jofx4051]

Yes, it is

[@aboutmychime5001]

Hey on the trap card monsters going to grave are they destroyed or sent by game mechanic? hope y'all understand what I am trying to say.

[@QuyenTran-wj7fm]

Hi Tom, i wanna ask if there were any updates on the ruling that Trap Monsters will no longer occupy S/T zone.

[@ramaroy2408]

OCG already use that rules few months ago(posted in Konami website). I guess TCG finaly use it as well.

[@topsycho4451]

There is still no official remark that those rulings are transferred to the TCG. Even though the Remote Duel was an official event, they are still saying that any rulings made there should be treated as exclusive to that event.

[@QuyenTran-wj7fm]

@@topsycho4451 thank you

[@steveromo2434]

Does shaddoll schism leave the field when the monster leaves?

[@ramaroy2408]

Why would it leave the field?

[@MSTTV]

No

[@steveromo2434]

Was just curious about it

[@afteralec]

does conquistador summons back as the effect of imperm wears off?

[@sirernest546]

No it doesn't.

[@izzy_rael]

I know you somewhat touched on this in video, but I was hoping to get more clarity on the interaction btwn forbidden droplets and apollousa, bow of the goddess.

[@josephmclaughlin5688]

Droplet is spell speed '4' so droplet negates appolusa since it can't be responded to after activation and in activation.

[@yugimoto2976]

This vid isnt present in the uploads section of your channel, weird

[@MSTTV]

How the hell did you find this?? This isn't scheduled until like... Tomorrow.

[@ThaddeusTM]

LOL

[@yugiohfanatics4183]

Yeah why isn’t this on your channel? Tombox have you been hacked?

[@casualduelist854]

It is on uploads now

[@krisalvarez3809]

This isn't where I parked my car... Updated: congrats on the wedding!

[@ImReclusive]

congrats on getting married hope you get some nice rarity MST's for a wedding gift

[@andrewyue5531]

@mst.tv if I activate lighting storm and my opponent responds to negate with savage , can I chain droplet to send the storm as a card on field to negate the savage and still have storm resolve ?

[@MSTTV]

Yes you can if your droplet doesn't get negated then it is exactly as you say.

[@MSTTV]

That's a good play

[@andrewyue5531]

@@MSTTV To your point made in the vid in a common scenario there would be maybe a herald or Appolousa on board as well where you -1 from hand (preferably a monster) so its an equal amount and your droplet is monster and spell proof as the storm blows up the board. I was toying around with the idea is what is the best spells to combo Droplet with.

[@ceasebenjaminbeast3947]

So does that mean you cannot send for cost more cards from your hand/field than monsters your opponent controls to activate droplets?

[@christophertomes6777]

yupyup

[@quatre5555]

the trap monster not also using a s/t space, is that an official ruling or just for that tournament?

[@MSTTV]

My guess is it will be soon official for all.

[@quatre5555]

@@MSTTV as far as i can research, continuous trap monsters still use both a s/t zone and monster zone unlike non continuous like paleo. seems more like an incorrect ruling of the tournament, which happens, for now unless the official rules get changed.

[@FisherTchannel]

if i punishment and my opp actived in chain book of moon on the target, the restriction on punishment for not SS from extra deck keep going? or lost my target dont resolves the card and the restriction dont aplly?

[@ramaroy2408]

You still can't summon from ED as punishment still resolve but with no effect (fizzle). That's from what i see happened on dueling book.

[@topsycho4451]

It resolves without effect, so the restriction does not apply

[@palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046]

@@topsycho4451 You are wrong It resolved without effect. So it's restricition still applies

[@DarkaHollow]

wait trap monsters are now following the OCG rule changes??? does that mean that the other rule changes announced on the OCG a couple of months ago are also applying in the TCG?

[@MSTTV]

Only the trap one has applied so far, I cannot confirm other ones

[@jungjun7829]

Say, opp has Borrelload Savage. You activate a spell card, opp tries to negate it's activation with Savage. Can you send the said spell card with Droplet as a cost? Cause it's technically still not on the field yet right?

[@topsycho4451]

Spells/Traps are on the field as soon as they are played, until their activation is negated. Even if Savage has activated its effect to negate your Spell, it is still on the field until Savage resolves and actually negates it

[@christophertomes6777]

If you send a trap monster to grave to activate forbidden droplet, can my opponent not respond with traps or monsters? Likewise if i have an infernoble knight equipped as a spell, and i send the equipped card to the graveyard, is it considered a spell or monster for droplet?

[@ramaroy2408]

Droplet said original type. So if you send trap monsters it still count as trap and infernoble still count as Monsters.

[@christophertomes6777]

Rama Roy ty

[@steveromo2434]

Congratulations on the wedding

[@UltraRareONE]

Do Borreload savage dragon still have its counter even though his effect got negated? Does the equip goes to grave also if Borreload savage effect is negated?

[@Butternutsquash3]

1. No 2. Yes

[@MSTTV]

No. It's gone.

[@rosum]

I dont believe you touched on if something legally responds to droplet, then can you chain another card which would not be able to respond to droplet? For example, cl1 droplet discard 1 monster, cl2 trap card, cl3 monster effect?

[@ramaroy2408]

It didn't respond to droplet then, the monster activated in response of the trap activation. So yeah technically you can "respond" to droplet.

[@rosum]

Ok in this case if herald or savage tried to use their effect they would negate the trap card correct? since they say "when"@@ramaroy2408

[@ramaroy2408]

@@rosum yes, you need something like red hot dragon archfiend abyss or DDD siegfried if you want negate the droplet.

[@ImHim_BelieveIt]

If El shaddoll construct gets forbidden droplet and it goes to the GY in the same turn, does it get its GY effect?

[@MSTTV]

Yes it does. GY triggers.

[@ImHim_BelieveIt]

@@MSTTV thanks this was much needed

[@austinstockman8400]

Congratulations

[@nistrosempai5285]

droplet vs zero atk?

[@liamoppress3740]

I have a ruling question about zefra path vs someone trying to activate a trap monster can they activate the trap monster under zefra path??

[@ramaroy2408]

The trap are flipped face up and stuck in S/T zones.

[@liamoppress3740]

Rama Roy okay that’s what I thought thanks

[@topsycho4451]

@@ramaroy2408 Activating a Trap monster would be illegal. If you cannot legally Special Summon the Trap as a monster (due to Zefra Path, in this case), you cannot resolve the effect, so you are not allowed to attempt its activation

[@joshuagreenough1954]

Hello Tombox or anyone else that can answer my query!, I have a pleb question for a scenario me and a friend ran into earlier. Let's say I activate Forbidden Droplet pitching 2 cards, a spell and trap card to target 2 of my friends monsters and negate their effects. Can he then chain his set Solemn Judgement because it is a counter trap rather than a regular one to my activated FB? And would this occur on activation or after I would pitch 2 cards for cost? Thank you in advance and congrats on your marriage :)

[@nahumromero7826]

No. He can't respond.

[@sunberk3034]

Wait so why does Savage dragon go back to 4000 after forbidden droplets wears off?

[@MSTTV]

In the case it has a buster dragon equip. It will goto 4k. If it doesn't have the buster equiped via union carrier. Then 3k

[@kaelingates1207]

If diamond dude hits triple T, does the condition still have to be met?

[@ceasebenjaminbeast3947]

Also can droplet affect tokens?

[@livingstone1084]

no, it specifically says to target effect monsters

[@MSTTV]

Effect monsters only

[@eggsack]

Gratz mai gai!!!

[@wa1922]

So Forbidden Droplet first halve attack and then negeates effects? Dude, Dueling Nexus first negated my borreloas savage an then halved it attack

[@stevenboucher433]

Thanks TOM BOX. I want both of the matts

[@plotwiist6817]

how do you make that dino misplay... it legit is the easiest text? come on Sam, you tried to be slick with that one lol

[@sebastianwilkins5329]

Lit lit congratulations

[@MrShorttj]

Is choose the same as taget in Yugioh?

[@ramaroy2408]

Not in this case(or at least in modern cards after PSCT). After PSCT released target always said target.

[@MSTTV]

No

[@xatuyou8045]

Also you didn’t mention if you send a trap monster with droplet, your opponent will still be able to respond with monster effects.

[@melvinbrookins6313]

Why would he have to mention that?

[@ramaroy2408]

Droplet said ORIGINAL type. Trap monsters is still originaly trap, so it should be obvious.

[@xatuyou8045]

Rama Roy it should be but remember yugioh players can’t read.

[@nolanb9466]

thats kinda busted that if you use cards that tribute monsters for cost, then forbidden droplets fizzles lol

[@Skasaha_]

Konami's problem with not announcing the rule changes like the continious trap monsters is rather irresponsible. I presume it's a corporate thing, but it's incredibly silly that they essentially have major rule changes without making any sort of public record of it. Players essentially have to find out about it by rumour and ask the head judge about it on the day. I suppose this is an extension of the issue where we don't even have a ruling database and bizarre regional differences.

[@Hex9876yugioh]

Sam and His DinoDNA :/ SAM WE NEEDED THE WIN FOR INZEKTOR’s

[@MrDryVice]

Why does Konami make rulings that make absolutely no sense?

[@mathunit1]

Because you guys don't punish them enough for doing so. :P

[@CannibalCliqueEnt]

If you both control no monster ntss can out the mine

[@martinc512]

If you forbidden Droplet a Pankratops can Pankratops still activate its effect, tribute itself as cost and use its effect because its not on the field?

[@EpicGamers007]

You can still activate Pankratops effect to tribute itself. However, it will resolve negated.

[@ramaroy2408]

If droplet send monster then no, Pankratops can't activated it's effect.

[@martinc512]

@@ramaroy2408 I'm not saying in response to droplets just after droplets resolves.

[@martinc512]

@@EpicGamers007 ok so it still wouldn't resolve even if it leaves the field because its still considered activating on field?

[@ramaroy2408]

@@martinc512 well sure as it tribute as a cost. Same thing even with DRNM. Edit: forgot to add it, the effect still got negated though.

[@DiablesRyan]

if shaddoll construct is flipped And i attack with UCT to attempt to detroy contruct by battle, what will happen with construct effect since it s "at the start of the damage step" and why

[@MSTTV]

Flipping only occurs during damage calc...so it's pass construct's timing for destruction

[@jkrulz77]

Sucks your wedding is during a pandemic but congrats nonetheless!!!

[@knightmare686]

Droplets can't activate against "dark law" as well.

[@livingstone1084]

why

[@ramaroy2408]

@@livingstone1084 droplet send cards to GY as a cost to activated it's effect and while darklaw on the field all cards send to GY are banished instead.

[@bobjones4469]

Getting married? My condolences.

[@sermonking]

you keep saying droplets..when in fact the name is droplet... error ... wrong

[@omeezy21]

Wut?

[@AllPureSkill]

I hate the wording on Droplets

[@SlavkosTell]

Congratulations