Drum Teacher Reacts: ANTHONY BARONE | Beneath the Massacre 'Rise of the Fearmonger' (2021 Reaction)

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[@MrFloppyHare]

Barone is an absolute beast on the drums. He's the current "God of Drums" for BABYMETAL.

[@BlueGlimpser]

yes, checkout the new version of Babymetal Death, called "Babymetal Death Shin ver", his double drum technique in unbelievable!

[@stomper2139]

Whoever requested this is a legend.

[@AlexTechNicol]

The blast to gravity transitions are so fucking clean. If I remember correctly Anthony said it was something he had to practice endlessly. Worth the practice.

[@shinokk]

Little blastbeat lesson: The "standard" blastbeat is the one where bassdrum and snaredrum are being played alternatingly, with a cymbal or hihat in unison with the bassdrum strokes. The "hammerblast" is the one where bassdrum, snaredrum and a cymbal or hihat are all being played in unison. The "bombblast" is almost the same as the hammerblast, just with the bassdrum at double speed. And the gravity blast is the one where the snare is being played with the drumstick rolling over the rim (often referred to as "single-handed roll"), usually in unison with lightning fast doublebass. Does that all make sense? Thanks for the great videos by the way - I've been a fan of your channel for quite a while now. Keep up the great work. Greetings from Germany! Cheers

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Wow! That's awesome Benny! Thank you

[@mineworldgamesbr6179]

I don't know why ....... but I feel calm, and at peace, listening to these kinds of music .... I even want to sleep ..... I don't know why

[@Lateralus1007]

American blast beat All at once European blast alternates foot & hand

[@Nathan-dn4zl]

@@mineworldgamesbr6179 this guy gets it

[@toivo.u]

@@Lateralus1007 no bro, what??

[@nathanmcintyre694]

"I can do that".. famous last words 😂

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Famous last words for many Dads pre Breakdancing attempt

[@grayjack5021]

He also plays with Baby Metal in Kami band West!

[@mineworldgamesbr6179]

I don't know why ....... but I feel calm, and at peace, listening to these kinds of music .... I even want to sleep ..... I don't know why

[@willpellerin413]

Same

[@MetalNick]

BTM is especially smooth and melodic..like classical music. It feels really pleasant to sync your mind to and get lost in it. 🤘

[@mineworldgamesbr6179]

@@MetalNick now that you said ... I realized, that you are misica, you have guitars, in the style of lyric music, the difference is the speed of the rhythm, 10x higher

[@MrHoliday2usir]

I watch before bed

[@nguyencaotri3879]

Well, this is not white noise, although it does act like white noise. It's like rain, it's a wall of sound, mostly meaningless, that is overwhelmingly thick, that your mind just goes blank. That's why people fall asleep faster, deeper and longer and feel restful when it's raining outside. I guess metal is somewhat the same, a wall of sound, relaxing.

[@adamlowry7901]

You being so enthused to find this world I've lived in my whole life is probably the biggest reason I enjoy all of your videos. I've always hated that most people can't get past the vocals to see the skill going into this music because it's just mind blowing. Thank for another rooney tunes adventure, you are the first person to put a smile on my face this morning, Yee haw from texas brother.\m/😎\m/

[@mikeyem1562]

It's easy to get past the vocals once you accept nobody else knows what he's saying either

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Happy to try out new things Adam! Not everything will stick of course

[@tortillasarenotbiceps7622]

I've never cared for this style. I'm more Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Queensryche, Zeppelin, Van Halen, old school metal style, but I never knock other people's tastes. We all have our own style, and that's the beauty of music. It affords everyone the personal satisfaction of many styles to choose from. Rock on...

[@ContaminatedBeef]

@derp derpin Definitely depends on the band. Go listen to Cryptopsy's None so Vile with a lyrics sheet and try to pick out a single word on the whole album lol

[@MetalNick]

@@ContaminatedBeef Yeah same with Broken Hope - Loathing. Or Carcass - Reek of Putrefaction. I love that about those albums. Lord Worm of Cryptopsy did it "rather well.. don't you think.." (if you know you know) 🤘

[@mikeyem1562]

Can you imagine the hours spent practicing to go that fast for that long!

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Yup Mike!

[@HeAD-CRuMBs]

No.

[@myotheraccount17]

Yeah! It's crazy. If you check out Anthony's channel, his earliest video is 11 years ago. And he was already a sick drummer then!

[@jordanowens6253]

Imagine doing a 30 minute to an hour set of this every day for months 🥲

[@mikeyem1562]

@@jordanowens6253 If i had the time and more then a tiny ass closet to play i would certainly try.

[@HummmyXIII]

Hi Andrew! Thanks for choosing my recommendation! Much love, and keep up the good work!! To everyone else: I understand the overall music or genre might not be to everyone's taste, but at the end of the day - Andrew is here reacting to drummers. Anthony has proved numerous times through his other bands that he can hold down beats, groove, and odd timings with no issues, I just figured this one in particular is a great display of raw technical ability and stamina obtained through years and years of practice. Hopefully most of you found something to enjoy from it.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Well said! Thank you!!!!

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Try and please everyone... you'll please no one.

[@HummmyXIII]

No, thankyou!​! One last thing; Don't stress about the delay, it was probably better you worked your way up to something like this. lol

[@larrymartin8737]

I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO REACT FORMALLY TO THIS. BENEATH THE MASSACRE IS F*CKING OBSCENELY AND TECHNICALLY PRECISE

[@Inosuke_Hashibira75]

I thinks he’s the drummer for BabyMetal Kami band west. Crazy blast beats

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Thanks Inosuke!

[@roscoepcoltrane23]

Yes he was and he did a great job with them.

[@richardbiondo239]

Yes he is . Once they start touring he should be back with Kami West

[@TheBongReyes]

As many of the Kami Band (East) has Kami nicknames. Barone should get one too. And yes, I fully expect the Kami Band of the West to re-enjoy BabyMetal once a World Tour is feasible. I’m sure BabyMetal, all the band members & fans are just waiting for the world to return to some form of past normalcy.

[@guillaumeaudet3139]

I opened once for Beneath the Massacre with my band, and I can tell you they can keep this up for looooong. I also shared a bottle of Jagermeister with Elliot (the signer) and my drummer, 3 shooters (1 each), and the bottle was empty 😂 These guys are a powerhouse!!

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Oh that's awesome! What's your band called!?

[@guillaumeaudet3139]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums Seismic, the band is not active anymore, but me and 2 ex-members are working on a 4 track EP (when we can thanks to convid). Here's the only song we ever recorded. kzbin.info/www/bejne/epnVnIiLrdtrbdU

[@joelbennett9014]

that's why they're all jacked, they don't even work out

[@twelvemonkeys8786]

This is unreal. I didn't even blink once.. Gobsmacked

[@cyril6510]

One of my favorite bands. I'm not a fan of the massive use of triggers but let's face it they are looking for this clinical and clear sound, which given the speed it is played at is probably a necessity. I think the people commenting negatively on the music fail to see that this is a niche genre which you usually can't get in one take. I've listened to metal basically since i was 10, starting with metallica, then slayer, then cradle of filth, then morbid angel, then behemoth etc. etc. and basically when you get to Beneath the massacre (i mean you could always say like Psyopus is crazier, or cephalic carnage or whatever) it's as extreme as it gets and it requires some "ear training", the same way you would think about some pretty insane jazz. this is not pop which is meant to be consumed right away. But hey, people have different tastes :)

[@Virvum_Juggernaut]

Agreed Cyril. I too cultivated my metal ‘ear’ over time, progressing from Motley Crüe as a child to Metallica, Slayer, Death, Morbid Angel and Deeds of Flesh (with a myriad of other sick bands in between). One must accustom themselves to musicians of this caliber (sans the first 2 lol) by understanding that the skill levels demonstrated are the epitome of instrumentalism. Going from mainstream ‘pop’ 🤮 straight to the top shelf of extreme metal’s elite most def would sound like meaningless noise to the uninformed. Appreciation is helped greatly if you play an instrument yourself, regardless of musical preference. Think I’ll choose Whitechapel’s Somatic Defilement to fall asleep to. Another album that never gets old! The list is gloriously long and only getting longer.

[@ivoduartenogueira]

Him and Dave Diepold are out of this world.

[@houseofshadow6380]

We've finally gotten there. Your reaction video to Alex 'Grind' Pelletier would eventually lead us to Beneath The Massace. And that Infant Annihilator reaction led us to that Despised Icon gem. So glad to see these Canadian extreme metallers getting some love. I've been a fan of Despised Icon and Beneath The Massacre for around 15 years. While both bands had taken hiatuses, they've come back swinging. Montreal is obviously great grounds for this type of music.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Are they all Canadian!?

[@houseofshadow6380]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums Infant Annihilator isn't, no. But Beneath The Massacre and Despised Icon are Montreal boys, and Archspire are from the west of Canada, Vancouver.

[@CH-ml4rz]

Throw in Ion Dissonance on the Canadian Comebacks!

[@houseofshadow6380]

@@CH-ml4rz I personally don't think Ion D has had a good release since Solace, but if Gab.357 is back in the fold, let me know!

[@CH-ml4rz]

@@houseofshadow6380 I was extremely let down by Minus the Herd, but Cursed and the latest one is fully on par with the Gabriel albums imo. Especially Cursed.

[@edmuenster2436]

His work on "underneath a sullen moon" is beautiful and so technical. In this video he was blistering fast. But in underneath a sullen moon he is just an octopus hyped on caffeine.

[@glenkelley6799]

That was???? Never listened to "extreme drumming" before, but initial take is, how? I first heard about Anthony when he became the drummer for Babymetal in Sept. 2019 that toured in the US and from the videos I've seen he really plays in the Babymetal style, except when he has a solo during the band solos and was really impressed with his talent.

[@pigdestroyer1019]

Most musicians in this type of music wear earpieces that help them keep the proper time

[@SauceBoss69]

I guess Shadow of Intent’s music was too slow for Anthony lol

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

HAHA!

[@xTylerxCx]

HOLY shit man.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Yup. I know...

[@jamieplatt1243]

Smooth jazz, you know it!!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@lukasmisanthrop8557]

Favourite band They are finally back

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Excellent Lukas!

[@dcfromthev]

You are hilarious, and I don't say that lightly. Subbed just because I like your style!

[@ramtinson]

Thank you for not stopping to talk so much :)

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Any time!

[@TheBongReyes]

Barone is a fuckin BEAST!!!! Kami Band West!!! BabyMetal!!!! 🤘🦊🤘

[@user-bd8id3ti2q]

IReakkt Luke the drums

[@user-bd8id3ti2q]

Best drums

[@jaysheeler2179]

"I can do that" hahahaha me to man..... me to

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

That's us Jay. We're awesome! haha

[@donerickson8956]

WOW ! thanks bro ... let's continue to learn about this style of drumming and drummers .. you should try and get a hold of some of these drummers through their record labels ant and tell them about your channel for some special interviews with the drummers!

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I'm hoping for some interviews soon!

[@user-nc6qh1my5b]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums who will be the first? or is it a secret.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

@@user-nc6qh1my5b Just a time thing at the moment. I'm insanely busy as we are allowed to gig here in NZ. KZbin/Teaching/Gigs. It's busy

[@user-nc6qh1my5b]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums concerts are good. great when you do what you love. good performances to you

[@kyletroeger5189]

Yessssssss i recommended underneath a sullEn moon on paypal but im just happy to see anthony barone. Dude is NUTS.

[@KansaSCaymanS]

Yeah, smooth jazz played back at 12x speed. 😄

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

HAHA!

[@jamesgoodin1518]

Idk if theres a name for what he does at 3:09 but for the last three years its made rewatch anthonys actual original vid. Absolutely insane.

[@jamesgoodin1518]

Or more like 3:07 to 3:10

[@RobKumar]

Great video. He is also a stellar guitarist, or at least he used to play!

[@jason11286]

yes, gravity blast. dude is a MONSTER

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Technique out the wazoo

[@ryanwatkins2089]

Anthony Barone is the Master Yoda of drums

[@LOLMAN9538]

Or more like the "GOD OF DRUMS", as his work with BABYMETAL has shown

[@Adrianiq1551]

3:04 I'm laughing when i see your reactions when you drink the coffee 😂😭

[@drumSick66]

There's also bomb blast included, where the snare starts on the 1.

[@user-bd8id3ti2q]

Best at the time Drummer....The besr

[@panopticum6656]

DT is NIKOLAY DOLZHANSKY from DOM2

[@Lateralus1007]

Watch some of the bass covers for this band Just as sick

[@S4MBONE]

yup thats a gravity blast bro. very fun not as difficult as you think rim based technique. theres tutorials on youtube

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Cheers!

[@Mutagen215]

Barone is a unnatural inhuman entity on drums but i think his literal senior project video for highschool showcases alot more of his abilities then just his insane speed and power.

[@moribundcrux]

I've never played drums, but I'm with you. I can do that, as well.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Sooooo easy

[@patrickbrennan2864]

Smooth jazz! Ha. That feeling when you anticipate one thing, and get something quite different Research volunteers were handed waffle cones (or sugar cones) filled with a creamy white swirled “food” and were asked to taste it, and identify it. They could not, although everyone had previously listed that food as something they enjoyed. Mashed potatoes So.......what WAS that? (It was great, obviously, but I can’t quite identify it)

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Hey Patrick! HAHA Love it man

[@MrHoliday2usir]

The veins in his arm lol

[@CH-ml4rz]

YEEEEESSSSSS

[@laurentc5453]

1:58 Look at the veins on his forearm. That guy developed armwrestler muscles. You should check Gravesinger from the same drummer. It's more melodic but he is still killing it.

[@mattthefuneraldirector6089]

Would love it if you did his melancholy drum cam, same guy different style of metal but fantastic

[@Crypt135]

Props to reacting to Technical Death Metal. Very few people do this shit.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Bit out of my league! LOL

[@Crypt135]

I'm somewhat new to this channel but Cryptopsy's Flo Mounier is another good drummer to check out. from this genre. He's been around for decades.

[@donerickson8956]

YOU CAN DO IT N ROONEY 💪!

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Thanks Don! (cue Rocky training montage)

[@donerickson8956]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums 😅

[@killjoysmakesomenoise668]

Andrew:so help me out you extreme people out there The extreme people while watching this:no sir,you're on your own.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

LOL

[@moribundcrux]

Lord Marco plays similarly to this.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Oh right!

[@estelombo]

lord marco is unbelievable!!! the video he put out where he plays the song blindfolded is insane!!, the speed is just unbelievable. i find a lot of the time, the focus is on the hands with these drummers, but the foot work is just next level

[@Jamie6029]

You should check out Kevin Paradis if you want to see some extreme drumming. Start with 50 shades of blast beats and go from there

[@estelombo]

samus 666 did a similar video, transitioning between different blast beats effortlessly

[@bucwah7875]

Checkout Chason Westmoreland's DEMON KING Drum Playthroughs

[@SethchristianBand]

I see you

[@clintonnichols2242]

I know it's blasphemy but, thank goodness for EZDrummer. I get to jam with the greats of this style. No one is ever late or off time!

[@AirwavesEnglish]

That technique is called the Gravity blast. He does it well but can he play a slow groove, I wonder? Awesome drumming though; I don't know whether I need a shit or a haircut.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

HAHA!

[@krokodilejaw5431]

He certainly can, just listen to Aegaeon - Neural Union. Barone grooves and does a lot of interesting stuff.

[@waynelynch9557]

The videos To cut up for me .I would like to watch him play the hole peice through one take from a few angles .🤯 thanks for the show and comments Andrew stay safe.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Fair enough Wayne! Yes doing good here man :)

[@ricky2420]

Check out his channel, he posts a lot of live go pro videos that are 1 take

[@waynelynch9557]

@@ricky2420 thanks.

[@wesborlandfan9453]

his playthroughs are actually exactly what you're asking for. 😅 a one-take performance filmed from a couple of different camera perspectives.....

[@waynelynch9557]

@@wesborlandfan9453 all veiws at ones.

[@denniskirkegaardjensen3597]

Tjek him out playing Shadow of Intent - Gravesinger.

[@Virvum_Juggernaut]

Glad to have you on board Andrew re: extreme metal drumming. Primarily I subscribed due to the fact that you appreciated the skills/talent of these dudes without it being your musical preference. Great analytical insight also. P.S. Aussies are still better at cricket though lol.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

They're good at sanding. HAHA

[@Virvum_Juggernaut]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums Haha! Touché!

[@lestoth3599]

I am into some fairly extreme and technical bands (stay Tec yall), i couldn't appreciate this one outside of the physical achievement of accuracy,, stamina and flawlessly efficient technique. To make this rate-able for me i needed there to be some better backing or somethign different in the structure, i liked the entry of the solo though, that could have been a feature! Was imagining extreme drumming behind animals as leaders when i heard that. Thanks for review!

[@silentvalue]

George kollias playing jazz

[@aldrinxchuaexecratedph2116]

Sick!please do react to Chason Westmoreland Drum Playthrough from the band Equipoise - Sigil Insidous (technical death) ty

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I hope to!

[@heidia7832]

Please react to Legend of The Seagullmen- Shipswreck. Danny Carey on drums for the band

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Right on! Thanks Sarah

[@ChurchOfTheHolyMho]

There must be a conservation of movement to play so quickly. That might be a useful takeaway.

[@jakeloranger1419]

I guess I'm too old for this music. This guy's technique is amazing, with the one handed rolls, incredibly fast double bass and machine like precision. My hat's off to him. But would I listen to this music? I don't think so. Maybe the fault is in my ears but all I hear is a continuous barrage of rolls. I'm not hearing interesting rhythmic patterns or any dynamics. I'm willing to admit that there may be a lot that is beyond my capacity of hearing or even grasping of the intent here. Is this music a response to the fast paced technology and machinery of today much like the jazz of the swing era evoked the industrialization and proliferation of train travel of that period? Or is it just a case of let's see how fast we can play, a drumnastics event? Because if it is the former, or some other philosophical motif I'm unaware of, well good, more power to it, even if it isn't my cup of tea. But if it is the latter, then I'm not really interested. I believe that technique should serve the music and not be an end in of itself. I realize that many of your audience will be angry with my comments. They may say that I'm just envious of his ability; There is probably some truth in that. Or they may say that I'm just biased in my musical tastes; Also true to some extent. Again they may say that I just can't hear the nuances going on; Definitely true. Anyway, that's my take. Thanks Andrew, as always, for providing good content.

[@Quake18]

im hearing what youre saying, not unreasonable. But I would STRONGLY disagree that a single note of this band is for speed's sake. Its the same dynamic of old Hard-bop like you kinda mentioned where it can be completely indecipherable to a casual listener and not only "not sound good" but sound bad and jarring. If you did consume their discography, which im def not asking you to do, I think you'd see that youre kinda on the right track. Extremely dense, mostly up-and-down patterns, no real "color" in the rhythm. But its something visceral when a song like this can put you in a place where you're following that virtuostic(yet 280bpm) guitar sweeping, AND noth losing track of the blast rhythm. Idk I definitely can level with your perspective because I really WANTED to love this stuff after I saw them live, so I began to love it : )

[@jakeloranger1419]

@@Quake18 Thanks for your input. I really do appreciate it. Your comparison to bebop seems to me to be apt. Another example could be free jazz, which most definitely goes over my head. And I'm glad to know that the music featured in the video is not just about speed. Also, I do appreciate how difficult it must be to play this music, beyond the technical aspect. It must require a lot of mental discipline to maintain focus and awareness of where one is in the piece.

[@OG.PoshCat]

I'll have to echo the fellow before me, your "first impression" is right on the money in a sense.. I've been a drummer in this genre longer than a decade now and bands like Beneath The Massacre can be borderline nonsense for someone not used to even something like the PACING of these songs, let alone all of the musical choices they make at that pace. This album in particular took about 3 or 4 full listens before I reeeally caught on to what they were doing on each instrument (vocals included) and that sort of "emergent complexity" became evident You're also right that this genre can dip into playing notes for the sake of playing notes, it's been my experience that the bands who execute this music at a high level (such as BTM) are not involved in that gimmick but are instead walking a fine line between olympic-level speed/endurance/chops required simply to enter this genre, and the musicianship and wherewithal it takes to master arranging/composing in such a genre. Bands of lesser ability attempting to make this music would be a good target for the criticisms you have, but I believe that the few bands at the top of their game in this genre are really pushing the boundaries of modern drumming/music in a very cool way

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Yes certainly not gonna be for everyone!

[@deuces_shoeless]

@@jakeloranger1419 If you've ever seen it live you would probably get it. It's an intense experience even if you aren't in the pit. It's like they're driving a car at 150mph and dragging you behind them the entire time. It honestly feels like you went through some training or some shit after their set. The technicality leaves you exhausted

[@tortillasarenotbiceps7622]

Not my style of music, and I deplore blast, BUT these drummers are still ridiculously talented, as are the entire bands.

[@seancarroll8103]

Well? How was the Hellraiser coffee?

[@mr.hellscream4996]

Can u react on Frost from band Satyricon ?

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Thanks for the tip!

[@danielradke7119]

Not bad, not bad. But for the extrem metal drummers Jaime Saint Merat has an unbeatable amount of musicianship. And never forget about Paul Seidel.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Jaime is awesome!

[@Kerosian1]

This is what you use for workout music when you want to die.

[@imawormbeforeiamman6052]

Eargasm material

[@IMN602]

The only time where a look of complete and utter DISGUST is good sign!

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Yes Sir!

[@Dec4ption]

Hey I’m not a patron but I really think you should react to Alex camerana from silent planet. He is a straight up insane drummer from a lot of aspects.

[@ricky2420]

Backed. Alex has the most groove and perfect chops out of all the heavy drummers at the moment

[@jfgoodysr]

Now play it again at 1x speed....😳

[@Sir_Robocop_jr]

What would you say if I told you he can play this on guitar also?

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

No. Just 'no' John

[@Jamie6029]

This guy is pretty amazing at the gravity blasts. Although triggers help alot. They make the rim shots sound like actual drum hits. I can play gravity blasts but they don't sound like that. And I have been playing for 37 years

[@wesborlandfan9453]

he doesn't trigger his drums for his playthroughs except for the kick. 😉 check out some of his live drum cams on his yt or ig, where you have nothing but the camera audio. his gravitiy blast actually are almost as loud as his regular strokes.....

[@quantum_beeb]

What is embarrassing is that he knows how to play the BTM catalog on guitar too lol

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Stop it

[@musictwithwes_9358]

Name drop, Tim yeung and Dino Cazares demo tapes for Divine heresy the drumming is ok

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Thank you!

[@Virvum_Juggernaut]

Tim’s drumming in D.H.’s ‘Jam Session’ vids is killer. ‘Face breaker’ is sick! Much prefer them sans vocals.

[@eeeyy33tt75]

react to matt kilner

[@douglascoss3702]

Not really my cup of tea, but he is talented.

[@romanrain4818]

I asked for a review on this dude - but not on this video

[@MrDick-kz8qc]

Cool story

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Here we are!

[@tomassvitorka]

I think it went a bit too soft in the chorus...

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

HAHA

[@Rob_0_Pierce]

His playthrough’s of shadow of intent songs are a lot more entertaining.

[@ralphmunn1685]

As much as I'm blown away by the extreme speed and machine-like precision of some modern metal drummers, I miss the modulation and musicality of the greats. Contrast this with Matt Garstka or Mike Portnoy if an example would make my point more clearly.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Nice one Ralph!

[@MacAudio74]

Andrew :-) please check the comment I left on the Mike Portnoy vid.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Oh... which one Sean!?

[@MortPure]

I might be getting older. But even with all that talent, this music feels extremely soul-less.... Extreme Metal in the 90's had that atmosphere where a lot of bands had their own sound. Now everything sounds the same. I can always go back to Morbid Angel, Death, Entombed, Gorguts and the likes... So yeah, these guys have talent, but talent is best when being in company with soul, insteasd of "Lets make a song where we just go fast and technical"

[@houseofshadow6380]

Name another band that is this fast and technical with this sound.

[@iwatchyoutube9610]

I have to agree. And yes, my age is probably showing but...while it's entertaining and very impressive to see such technical prowess for a few minutes here and there it almost always leaves me feeling empty. This "song" sounds like a motherboard burning up. But, as I said, it might be my age. When I as a kid played Iron Maiden to my grandfather he said it sounded like a factory so...I guess I'm him now. This music seems like more sport(speed) than groove, soul.

[@Puffmutter_Teresa]

@@houseofshadow6380 The Faceless

[@houseofshadow6380]

@@Puffmutter_Teresa they suck tho.

[@houseofshadow6380]

@@Puffmutter_Teresa The Faceless also have a symphonic black metal twinge, and are definitely not as fast.

[@blainemono3544]

I often watch these new super-fast musicians, and I wonder if it is still music what they do, or rather circus performances.

[@blainemono3544]

@derp derpin Maybe for you it is "of course music", but I have some doubts and as a boomer and listener of metal and other genres of music since the time when "Master of puppets" was a new release, I have the right to have such a doubts. Mad speed and technique means nothing when there is no soul and depth in music, it's just empty shell - a super fast bonobo could do it just as well. Rather your comment not mine seams to be disrespectful.

[@houseofshadow6380]

@@blainemono3544 sure boomer, you have the right to your doubts, but no one else has to respect your garbage opinions. If its too loud, you're too old.

[@blainemono3544]

@@houseofshadow6380 It seems that you don't understand nothing from my boomer opinion. It's not a problem of loudness, but the problem of lack of music in such fast and mechanical playing. More notes doesn't mean better music, while more notes per second it's a main goal for musicians like the one from this video. If it is okay for you, then all right, but for me it's shitty stuff of that kind. Sorry for that opinion.

[@houseofshadow6380]

@@blainemono3544 you're right. I don't understand nothing from your boomer opinion. Which, as any educated person would know, is a double negative. Therefore, I understand your boomer opinion just fine. DAGTFOOTW.

[@blainemono3544]

@@houseofshadow6380 Don't bother about my education - it's quite high, but English it is not my native language. Your way of winning is a good way for little boys. We could do great net struggle, but slurs in English tire me so I give up. But before I go, you can ask yourself: do you admire the dexterity of such musicians, right? Isn't that exactly what you do with circus artists? The music for exaple in this video - it is as simple as a hammer's design, but it's packed with lots of sounds, so it so it pretends to be advanced and high quality. Have a good day.

[@ReICARDuH]

Fast as hell! But ... where is the sweetness of GoOD music?? It seems that are styles 4 everything ... In a show of that band ... i, speaking 4rom iself ... i was interestd in a DRUMcam :D Cheers ***

[@user-nc6qh1my5b]

Well, no ... this is too much)) but where is the musicality? just crazy pounding

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

'That's what she....'

[@estelombo]

to some people, there is no musicality in jazz, to some there is no musicality in extreme metal. but in the overall scheme of things....

[@user-nc6qh1my5b]

@@estelombo I'm a fan myself, Nile. Belphegor. Marduk ... I develop speed, but I try to dilute with at least some colors so as not to turn into a drum machine. No criticism, He is an artist, paints interfere exclusively with him, but there must be some kind of soul, shouldn't it?

[@estelombo]

@@user-nc6qh1my5b the music doesn't call for soul, it's about being as accurate to the metronome as possible, almost like a sport actually. It's like motor racing I guess, you use different disciplines to achieve the same end....serving the song. Having said that, when you listen to it a lot, you begin to recognise that this music is also written like a computer programmer would write rather than a musical melodic song. It's just patterns stitched together

[@user-nc6qh1my5b]

@@estelombo as? does not require a soul? !! what's the point then? if music is soulless, it does not evoke emotions, and there is no desire to listen to it .. music is not a set of sounds, but a POETRY of sounds .. that's the essence.

[@ambassadortourettes753]

Actually 🤔 Beneath the Massacre's songs are LITERALLY ALL this speed and percussion demanding... Yup... Every single song is this basic tempo so Anthony is pretty much required to play an entire set of these songs.... Pretty much might as well play this song back to back for 30-45 minutes... Definitely got to condition yourself to play at least an hour of just this stuff if not longer to manage to get through a normal average length set list right?🤷🏻‍♂️🙄

[@mfr58]

This cocktail bar style really bores me....

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

HAHA!

[@AnimalHippy143]

He really can only play the same sh** over n over. Yeah he is awesome but not all that original. His blast beats are unreal but compare him to Alex Rudinger and Alex would eat him alive with his versatility and tastefulness, and notice how the foot cam never shows much to see how authentic his feet are .Yes I could be wrong about his feet, but everything he plays sounds the same and that would usually mean he is not as well rounded. George KOLIAS, Alex Rudinger, Steve Lang would and could do what he does along with so much more. Hands are authentic but his feet hasn't been proven yet

[@SaltyDogPerformance]

This should be illegal

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

It is... in my practice room...

[@SaltyDogPerformance]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums This guy has to be breaking some kind of COVID lockdown rule with playing like that. He should be locked up so we never have to feel this level of inferiority ever again.

[@HeAD-CRuMBs]

Be careful man... Trying to play like that will make your hair fall out at an early age. 👴😬

[@tim_from_braid]

This is one of the reasons why metal is dead

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Oh really Marko!? Please elaborate

[@tim_from_braid]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums well, there is no music in this, at least in my opinion, and i bet most people tuned out subconciously for the same reason. It is like a competition of speed and technique while the musical part is there somewhere in the background. Also i would argue that one of the reasons is flattening out the dynamics of the songs to make it sound "perfect", while at the same time making it artificial. Dont get me wrong, i respect the drummers and their skill, thats why i tune in, but it should be something composed into the music, not the main part of it

[@gSWG3R]

Stupid opinion. This is like looking at one person and generalising about an entire race of people. You're just wrong, plain and simply.

[@tim_from_braid]

@@gSWG3R fair enough

[@krenwregget7667]

no thanks.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Fair enough!

[@N8oRMusic]

All that skill for boring af metal.

[@JonnySublime]

Too noisy

[@julianomedina]

Great technique, the music sucks. But you guys are not ready for this conversation. :)

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Juliano is goin' in!

[@julianomedina]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums Those ADHD tech math djent compositions with 278 different riffs may suit the youngsters but, for me, it's just an amalgam of different ideas that weren't fully developed. Yeah. I'm old and grumpy. Sorry.

[@Dibulok]

Most boring f-ing thing I have ever heard

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Not for everyone Simon!

[@Dibulok]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums Sure Andy. Thats true. I'm in to extrem metal as many other. But this is just noice to me. No musicality at all. You might as well listen to a heavy guitar acompanied by a machinegun.

[@gSWG3R]

Meh, quantised to hell. This guys obviously brilliant, but nobody plays this fast without sacrificing quality (stick heights will be tiny for this speed, but the recording sounds so even and consistent, despite his stick heights not being reflective of that).

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Few people commenting along the same lines. Thanks for the input

[@wesborlandfan9453]

oh boy, how wrong you are..... exept for the kick, the drums in his playthroughs aren't triggered and they're certainly not quantized! 🤣 wanna know how how triggered and quantized drums sound like? listen to the actual release of the song! 😅 when it comes to the playthrough though, the dude simply is THAT good. don't believe me? check out some of the drum live cams on his yt or ig, where there's nothing but the camera audio. 😉

[@gSWG3R]

@@wesborlandfan9453 nope. Quantised. Look at his stick heights for his blast beats. You're telling me he gets rimshots out of every blast beat with the exact same level of volume, yet his stick heights are inconsistent? Lol.

[@wesborlandfan9453]

@@gSWG3R what does quantization have to do with the strength of his hits? quantization is a tool to manipulate timing! 😂 and stick height is far from being the only factor that determines hit strengh. like i said: if you don’t believe me, check out some of his live drum cams and see for yourself. 😉

[@gSWG3R]

@@wesborlandfan9453 It doesnt just manipulate timing, it also helps to correct discrepancies in volume.