Differences between the Sonic Movies and Games

[@carleeelders875]

It was revealed by writers that in a deleted scene for Sonic 3, Gerald actually stayed alive with the help of Shadow's quill. While in jail, Gerald would do the weird shock thing like Eggman, except his wrinkles recede, giving a brief explanation as to why he lived for so long. It makes sense since Shadow is immortal.

[@kellentaylor7315]

That’s very interesting I wonder does Sonic’s quill have any effect on eggman.

[@kellentaylor7315]

That’s very interesting I wonder does Sonic’s quill have any effect on eggman.

[@JustAguy006]

⁠@@kellentaylor7315i’m assuming Sonic’s quill just gives Eggman just a surge of energy, it stimulates his brain. Nothing more, nothing less

[@StevenJones851]

Is this shown in post credits??

[@carleeelders875]

@@StevenJones851 No, I read it in an article

[@OfficialChipsGang]

In the movie to shows when all seven chaos emeralds are combined it makes the master emerald , but in the games the chaos emeralds are clearly different from the master emerald

[@Peasham]

I love how the movie forgets about its own chaos/master emerald lore within the same movie lol

[@dshaynietheawesome]

i guess they wanted to do something different because let me tell you movie 2 takes game stuff and does em different

[@FNDD22]

Actually having the Chaos Emeralds on hand as the Master Emerald makes sense for a film. They’d be looking for them every single movie for half of it.

[@Peasham]

@FNDD22 Considering they went away in the second movie after being used, that's moot.

[@dynamicyouthtube]

@@FNDD22Spoilers My theory is that after they used the emerald again in Sonic 3 to make sure nobody would ever use it again if they get angry or sad they asked some sort of agent to hide it in a place nobody knows not even knuckles so then in Sonic 4 metal sonic might be able to transform into neo metal sonic but he needs the master emerald to turn into super Neo metal sonic or the metal overlord so Sonic 4 can be inspired by cd but also take small things from heroes but please no heroes movie

[@PlaylistsStation1]

Woah you can see the differences in Sonic 3 in the CGI. The 3rd movie is so polished and flawless. Every character got an upgrade.

[@marbleracergirl]

metal looks kinda game-y tho

[@PlaylistsStation1]

@marbleracergirl Metal does look gamey I wish they used the Sonic and Knuckles design of Mecha Metal Sonic.

[@dshaynietheawesome]

@PlaylistsStation1 i dunno about that, metal’s design is iconic

[@andraw4002]

I don't believe that Gun was only formed between Sonic movies 1 and 2, because Shadow recognised Gun in Sonic movie 3, and lived in a Gun base 50 years before the events of the movie.

[@dshaynietheawesome]

because in the second movie the commander said it was formed right after the first movie

[@andraw4002]

@dshaynietheawesome Maybe it was reformed? Or maybe it's just a continuity error?

[@dshaynietheawesome]

@ in movie 2 gun was created specifically because of both sonic and robotnik I haven’t had a chance to see movie 3 yet but it’s safe to say prior to the teaser scene shadow had gotten familiar with gun since being freed

[@andraw4002]

@dshaynietheawesome I've watched the movie, and I don't want to spoil, but Shadow was already very familiar with Gun prior to his 50 year cryogenic sleep. I do agree that that seems to contradict the information we got from Sonic 2. Even if it is a continuity error, I don't mind considering that Gun should have always been a thing in the movie universe, instead of "generic American government."

[@0kdevv_]

@@dshaynietheawesomemust’ve been a retcon cuz shadow knew about gun

[@XaraHollowKnight]

In the games, Shadow's design was based off of Sonic in the mural in Hidden Palace. The mural in Hidden Palace was showcasing the upcoming events of the final boss. Sonic was originally born on Christmas Island and anyone and anything can use Chaos Control.

[@rickyronny4019]

That’s not true. Shadow’s defiant is not explicitly based on the mural from Hidden Palace. That’s just an unconfirmed theory y’all have been running with for years

[@XaraHollowKnight]

@ it WOULD make sense though as Gerald went to Angel Island for research. and all of my other original points still stand

[@rickyronny4019]

@@XaraHollowKnight its still not confirmed. Hell I’m sure Izukia said there was no real reason why Shadow was made a hedgehog

[@SuperSonicbros4]

That hasn't been confirmed for the based off thingy, in fact the gerald diary from shadow gens debunks it. Gerald only went to angle island once and went to sa1 emerald chamber, not s&k one (i think)

[@rickyronny4019]

@ exactly what I’ve been saying. This is just a random unconfirmed theory people been running around with for years and mfs wanna spread misinformation and pass it off as real 😂

[@RM2011ish]

I see a few similarities with Sonic X. The heroes are all depicted as Aliens from another world sent to Earth and both befriend a Human protagonist. Chris in the anime and Tom in the movies.

[@MetalMedallion24]

It's also pretty interesting that G.U.N is established on Earth in the movies like X, as well.

[@X3nophiliac]

I wonder if a lot of the staff and Jeff Fowler might have been influenced by Sonic X, it was a popular weekend cartoon.

[@MetalMedallion24]

@@X3nophiliac Maybe. I love Sonic X, especially its 3rd season. :)

[@valentinkambushev4968]

Biggest difference: Movie Sonic is allowed to be sad and angry, unlike his game counterpart.

[@kendraroth1276]

Unlike his game counterpart? He literally does this in Colors and Lost World. What that mandate means is that he is the role model and Tails’s mentor figure, not the other way around and therefore he should be written as such.

[@Super70000]

bro in sonic frontiers he was clearly sad about his friends being in this cyber state and he has been angry multiple times before

[@SuperiorNas]

Tradeoff: he becomes a generic marvel superhero constantly saying quips every 5 seconds, unlike his game counterpart.

[@SonicTheBlueFastBoi]

Frontiers:

[@Raincloud5137]

​@@kendraroth1276 Meta Era sonic isn't a good example, he is a Mary sue in those games, and his personality is annoying.

[@SonicLegendPlus]

For the Sonic not having a home: Shuffle is just a game mechanic and Secret Rings… Sonic could be by Tails’s place

[@dshaynietheawesome]

@SonicandMarioYT regardless if i didn’t say it id get tons of comments about it

[@officialvtuberrobijet]

I find it actually cool that they are Aliens makes more sense to me

[@Murillos1]

That’s always been the case.

[@sh1myuu]

​@@Murillos1 ?

[@thetruenoobgod]

​@@Murillos1Yeah this video confused me I was like "the hell?!?! Forgot mobius??"

[@anomaly395]

@thetruenoobgod Mobius isn't a thing in the games.

[@thetruenoobgod]

@@anomaly395 sonic cd

[@CatThatIsHere]

You are a great inspiration to me mainly because of the australian bit as there are so many americans that are on here that make me feel like my australianisms stop me from starting creating content

[@dshaynietheawesome]

@CatThatIsHere make content have fun with it and sound as australian as possible and if you get comments from people complaining you’re not spelling the word “colour” correctly then you know you’re doing something right

[@CatThatIsHere]

@@dshaynietheawesome Thank you.

[@TheLunarBobaCat]

As an American, I didn’t even know there were different versions of the word “Colour/color” until you pointed it out. lol.

[@CatThatIsHere]

@@dshaynietheawesome just published my first proper video

[@BrandonScott-mi5pz]

GREAT VIDEO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SONIC GAMES AND MOVIES.

[@joekool0078]

*Spoliers* Shadow instead of being created by Gerald he was found in a black asteroid Definitely hinting at the black arms and black doom

[@xnortheast1106]

What

[@joekool0078]

@@xnortheast1106 if you didn’t know then why did you click

[@SonicTheBlueFastBoi]

What’s a Spolier?

[@AbdullahMIQ]

​@@SonicTheBlueFastBoi Movie Shadow's origin

[@AbdullahMIQ]

I hope they make Shadow a natual Hedgehog like Sonic but with Black Doom genetics(blood) after he did some tests on Shadow then he didn't need him so becasue he was too kind so wiped his memories then threw him out of his world, but Shadow saves himself at last second before he loses his memory using Black Doom's power to put himself in shell then Sonic Movie 3 events happen.

[@EternalRoman]

The Sonic Lore was changed with the "Adventure" game series forward. The original games were clear that Sonic and in the sequels lived on the Planet Mobious. The Islands were the different continents of the planet, and Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik was the only (so far known) human character that wanted to use animals to power up his machines and of course the Chaos Emeralds. This was even used on the original animated series, but with the making of the Sonic Adventure games, somehow the story was set on a weird alternate Earth. The live action Trilogy films use a mix of the original games origins and the Adventure games and forward. It's the perfect balance that clearly shows a believable and yet solid version of Sonic's origins. This is the reason Sonic and Co are referred to as aliens. Shadow on the other hand and on the games was created from the Sonic's and alien's DNA the mentioned Alien species due to a Prophecy painting and them possibly going through time and obtaining Sonic's DNA. In the movie Shadow landed inside a meteor, essentially also making him an Alien, but it is unknown why he looks like Sonic and has the same powers. His 50yrs is him locked in cryostasis for that time.

[@dshaynietheawesome]

@@EternalRoman the lore was not changed in adventure, it simply built onto what was already established in sonic cd and sonic 3 & knuckles, which itself was building off sonic 2 which was building off sonic 1 but to be fair 1 & 2 had very little to begin with and there is no mention of a planet mobius in any of the Japanese manuals, the only real thing that was changed in the lore was adapting eggman’s localized name dr robotnik from the american marketing media as his real name while turning his original name eggman into a nickname

[@shellder_gaming]

biggest difference: sonic has 2 eyes in the movie and 1 in the games

[@dshaynietheawesome]

the conjoined eye is really a stylistic choice since game sonic isn't really supposed to have one singular eyeball

[@Supermariorpg6]

This a great video! Although you did missed a couple of information tho. Like you forgotten to mention that Eggman Memos in Frontiers going into lol details of his childhood. And GUN was around according to the Knuckles Series they just went by a different name.

[@dshaynietheawesome]

@@Supermariorpg6 the egg memos didn’t really give us anything other than he knew of maria but never met her

[@jackkemp7256]

Oh! Thanks for explaining the G.U.N. situation. I was confused why Shadow was familiar with them.

[@theonlineninja7596]

In the second movie when Eggman first returned to Earth, movie Sonic shows ZERO hesitation in attacking Eggman, it's literally on sight. And Sonic would've killed him if Knuckles didn't come in.

[@SuperSonicWarrior93]

@6:35 Hopefully someday, we get a Sonic game that delves into his backstory. And yes, let said game be called "Sonic The Hedgehog". Cause this time, we’d have such a 3D Sonic game deserving of that title. And it should also tell Eggman’s backstory as well.

[@miniluv7330]

What about “Sonic Beginnings” as a title? I’m not sure about it sharing the same title as the first game, Sonic 06, the original cartoon etc. as it could cause some confusion

[@Abner-gu3ve]

Ima have to say no. Game Sonic is meant to have a flat character arc, we’re not supposed to know how he came to be or what influences him. He’s always worked without a backstory and certainly doesn’t need one now

[@yvng_hero305]

@@Abner-gu3veglad u actually get the character. Not too many of people like this

[@Abner-gu3ve]

@@yvng_hero305 yeah. I’m fine with Movie Sonic having a character arc and an origin story since he’s a different adaptation and he’s younger than his game counterpart, but keep Game Sonic simple. He don’t need an arc or an origin story to work. He’s been established from the jump as a confident adventurous hero

[@lemon5000-tj6nv]

All you need to know about Sonic’s backstory is that he was born on Christmas Island and left at a young age because of his call for adventure

[@alu_sonic]

Everything is different. It is a completly different univers

[@TheZetoBlade]

I will always appreciate the Sonic games for getting me into this franchise, but there's just so many aspects of the movie universe that I prefer over the games that I can't help but enjoy them more. Don't get me wrong though, I'm always down to play whatever game Sonic has come up with next. The games will always be that bread and butter for me, but the movies are like that favorite meal that never gets old.

[@rickyronny4019]

Agreed

[@therandomvideochannel8589]

which aspects of the movie universe do you prefer to the games?

[@rickyronny4019]

@ I wouldn’t say I prefer but I really do like how the Movies give Sonic an actual backstory and character arc, whereas Game Sonic has a mostly flat character. I also appreciate them for fleshing out Shadow’s relationship with Maria so we knew how much she meant to him. SA2 left their relationship pretty vague before 2005 Shadow the Hedgehog and Shadow Generations developed their relationship further

[@TheZetoBlade]

@@therandomvideochannel8589 The family dynamic that Sonic has with Tails, Knuckles, and the Wachowskis is my favorite part of the movies. It resonates with me specifically for personal reasons I won't go into. Game Sonic's relationships with anyone beyond Tails felt like a slight step above aquantices, especially in the early 2000s. It's not really in issue since that's the character they wanted at the time, but Game Sonic's aloof personality never appealed to me since it felt like he didn't really appreciate the connections he made with others. The free as the wind mentality just meant leaving people behind to me.

[@therandomvideochannel8589]

all valid points. i enjoy game sonic more pretty much for all the reasons both of you mentioned. the sonic i grew up with was independent, introverted and his actions always spoke louder than his words. these traits were grounded and relatable. he did value his friends but never had a ‘family’ relationship with them, nor did he want a family to belong in. the fact that he was a static character and inspired others made him a really good role model. i liked that he didn’t have a traumatic origin story - he didn’t need one. sonic was just effortlessly cool. despite CD and unleashed’s intro being over 15 years apart, sonic still felt like the same character. i feel like game sonic could easily work in a movie too (i’m thinking an animated movie in the style of the spider verse films) but i don’t think hollywood is ready to take that risk yet. i will say movie sonic’s character does fit the overall theme of the movie series, but it doesn’t strike me as a faithful adaption of the character. i suppose i’m just hyper critical of it as for many people, this IS sonic as it’s the most popular iteration of the character. but i’m glad you guys enjoy movie sonic

[@Opdudall]

Movie sonic has a design that you can never really see how different it is from the source UNLESS you seen them side by side

[@dshaynietheawesome]

so now the third movie has been out for a bit and this video did so well, do you guys have any topic and discussion ideas for more sonic movie themed videos?

[@BlueJack222]

Predictions for Movie 4

[@dshaynietheawesome]

@ i have a few but i don’t want to speculate just yet

[@VargasDaniel-x5z]

At least Tails’s backstory stayed the same, except that in the movie he doesn’t explain what happened to his family, compare to how the comics do show what happened to them.

[@Peasham]

Tails' backstory is that he was bullied for having two tails only for Sonic to save him from said bullying, after which Tails started following him around. In the movie, Tails is a weirdo stalker who has a parasocial relationship with Sonic because he saw him beating Eggman in a video he took. These ain't the same, my guy.

[@dshaynietheawesome]

@Peasham i mean he was bullied in the movie too just offscreen

[@Peasham]

@dshaynietheawesome The point moreso is that Sonic was physically there to help him whereas in the movie Tails basically just sees some dude beat up another dude from an aerial pov and decides to like the blue one. There's no personal connection in the movie, all Tails saw is a random powerful person, but the movie never really does anything with the fact that their relationship is parasocial, there's like one line about it and they act like best buds regardless, there's also the fact that, if I remember correctly, Tails uses his tails to fly before seeing Sonic on his screen, whereas in the games Tails was inspired by Sonic's kindness and decided to turn what he was mocked for into his strength, which is also lost in the movie.

[@ECartmanist]

00:20 I know 2000's nostalgia is in right now but are we really pretending that Forces was a bigger low point than 06 now?

[@dshaynietheawesome]

@@ECartmanist ill take a buggy over ambitious game thats true to its world and characters over a super boring game thats true doesn’t even try and insults the intelligence of it’s players where most of the story happens off screen and characters and continuity are wrong and the game as a whole is suffering from an identity crisis of misunderstanding it’s own brand which i see as more damaging but more importantly if we got to the point where they thought it was ok to make you pay actual money just to unlock super sonic and super sonic adds essentially nothing, you know its a new low

[@Kevin-tv3vp]

@@dshaynietheawesomevery well said

[@ECartmanist]

@@dshaynietheawesome I won't defend paid Super Sonic, you're right that's bullshit. Be honest 06 wasn't just buggy; it doesn't work. There's a difference, on several fundamental levels the game doesn't work. ''True too the characters and world'' ? Horse shit. ''True too the characters and world'' what like retconning Blazes backstory and the blue Chaos Emerald paradox they put into the game which literally contradicts every prior game.

[@mechalincoln6933]

​@@ECartmanist sonic 06 was meant to be a reboot of Sonic. It is going to contradict the existing story. It bombed so bad due to its technical flaws and other reasons that Sega would just rather act like it never, thus why it was delisted. Still, with all that, sonic forces is bad for the reasons 06 isn't and some of the same reasons why it's bad. It is lazy story telling with no identity and a poor story. Just a cash grab for the fans out there who love to make their own sonic OC.

[@HdNinjaMsBrickStudio]

@@mechalincoln6933I doubt O6 was ever meant to be a reboot it relies to much on past info from past games

[@danielcena2483]

Well the Sonic's house thing had to be real until recently. I still couldn't believe it till the last Twitter Takeover. Charii5 definitely called it when he did "Everything Wrong With 'Sonic Shuffle'". And I would like to talk about a detail you missed about Eggman's game origin, but that would go into movie spoilers. Also it in a way would be more of a similarity and this is a DIFFERENCE video so...yeah. Also supposedly Game Sonic was born on the real life location of Kirimati AKA Christmas Island. So there's that, too.

[@IsaiahSalvagno]

I’m so happy Sonic is main stream now

[@BlueJack222]

Movie 3 is completely different to the games can't wait for that video to come out

[@coypandora0795]

It’s more like the Sonic Adventure games so not necessarily that different

[@officialvtuberrobijet]

? No, just the aliens black doom aren’t there jet but maby in Sonic 4

[@MadChristoph]

It was similar to Sonic X

[@malachinsimbi]

It’s the most similar to the games out of the three

[@youssefhussein1615]

Well there are couple of differences I find for Sonic and his friends, between how they are in the games compared to the movies, like Sonic gets to meet Eggman on Earth instead of his world, and not a guy who wants to steal animals to power up robots, how he meets Tails on Earth and not someone who gets picked on in his world, how Green Hills gets to be a town in the movies while in his games it's the name of a place in his world as Green Hill, Sonic doesn't have a home in his games and gets to sleep in whatever place he's in and is always on adventures and running around nonstop while in his movies he gets to have a home which is a house with two human adults and their golden retriever dog, how Gerald Robotnik in the games is supposed to be dead already when Eggman who is Dr. Robotnik discovers him and since Professor Gerald Robotnik created Shadow just to help people before GUN arrested him and took his granddaughter Maria from him and Shadow, while in the movies Gerald Robotnik gets to be with his grandson and wants to annihilate Earth and with Space Colony ARK and the eclipse can as something he allowed GUN to invent over the years and showing that Shadow was an alien who came to Earth in a meteor before Professor Gerald Robotnik created Shadow to be who he is, and there are a lot of changes that are in the movies of Sonic that's different from how things are in Sonic's games, and there are things in the movies that are sometimes better than how things and stories of people are in the games of Sonic the hedgehog, in my opinion.

[@Cod_entertainment]

"Sonic dosent have a home"... got me dying 💀😭😂

[@marcushamner5994]

At 6:25 In the Archie comics, Sonic had a mother and father before the Genesis Wave happened. As far as I know currently, Sonic’s parents haven’t been mentioned since.🤓💙

[@SeanWheeler100]

All because of Ken Penders claiming ownership of characters he created for the Sonic comics, which includes Sonic's family. He tried to sue Paramount for giving Knuckles a father.

[@SapphireKnight675]

he also had a Uncle with Chuck who appeared multiple times in different mediums and another Mother with Underground, so the idea ain't new, just not in the games

[@JarenJohnson-rb4dt]

In the Japanese manual for Sonic 1 its said that Sonic is from Christmas Island and that his shoes are inspired by Santa Clause

[@liamphibia]

This is a neat breakdown and comparison between the games to normies who don't have the time and energy to play the games themselves.

[@Super70000]

tbh we should get a back story for Sonic he is such a mysterious character i really want to know his origins

[@thatterrariaguidenpc8054]

Longclaw is built different She got jumped and injured yet was still able to wipe out an entire Echidna tribe before dying herself

[@Theia_sb]

Congrats on 46.7k subs

[@yvng_hero305]

Game sonic vs movie sonic Movie sonic: makes jokes then fights (prob might lose) Game sonic: fights enemy then wins (makes a single one liner) Movie sonic when angry: no more mister nice guy (still might lose but can probably make up for it later Game sonic: grits teeth and does what he has to do. No monologue. Movie sonic:Watches movies, makes tik toks, fortnite dances, and is always energetic Game sonic: usually laying down by a tree taking a nap, eating food at different countries, smelling the flowers, or hanging with tails Final comparison Movie sonic: loses every fight with knuckles and only beat shadow once after losing the whole movie and getting tired in super form Game sonic: beats/ties with knuckles and only loses to shadow once in a non canon spinoff timeline

[@blockwearingman]

i love how the first 2 movies are so accurate i hope the 3rd one is too

[@jwall2235]

Paramount needs to make a prequel spinoff on the owl tribe/Echidna tribe war

[@yvng_hero305]

The first movie to sell zero tickets

[@claireaquos6532]

I agree! Considering the owl tribe are a completly original element, they really need to dive more into them in a future movie. Also, how were all the echidna killed that same day? As far we know, Longclaw was the last of her kind. Did she killed them all by herself? Etheir that's a plot hole or there's a bigger story going on.

[@Personalquestion]

They made Ugly Sonic lovable in Chip n’ Dale

[@danielrodriguez197]

This video would of been 10 times longer if we compared the sonic comic lore.

[@dshaynietheawesome]

well it's a good thing I know so little about sonic comic lore

[@SpiffyMario55]

dude! there was never a true low point for the series! there were a few games that failed over the years...Sonic Labyrinth, Sonic Blast (not 3D Blast) Sonic Shuffle, Shadow the Hedgehog, (honestly a pretty fun game despite the critics) Sonic Boom, Sonic. Forces (again mid but not as terrible as people made it out to be)....but the series bounced back each time!

[@dshaynietheawesome]

@@SpiffyMario55 by sonic forces the series had lost its identity, we hadn’t had a proper game in years until mania which was made alongside sonic team making forces and they had clearly forgotten everything that made the games so appealing or fun or even how to depict it’s own world or characters, and when i show you there was a point in time where they thought making people pay money to play as super sonic in forces was a good idea the fact that something so stupid could exist is proof it was a low point

[@rando6677]

U gonna make a post Movie 3 version of this once it officially get released on digital?

[@peterrealar2.067]

Well, after what we know from Sonic 3, they could use a time travel story to fill in the holes from the first 3 films that have been left dangling. Question is, HOW?

[@CarbonAnimationProductions]

kinda wish they stayed consistent with the games story but we cant have it all i guess

[@lilkalebmck9941]

2:22am video I was just doing a all nighter and saw this

[@WhyAreWeStilllHereJustToSuffer]

Bro the vid says 2 hours ago and this comment says 3 hours ago. Also when this vid released it was 4:30 pm for me

[@lilkalebmck9941]

That is because you probably slept

[@lilkalebmck9941]

Have you ever considered the fact that we are from different countries

[@WhyAreWeStilllHereJustToSuffer]

@lilkalebmck9941 yes i know that i was just pointing out how different it is. I still dont ubderstand how it says you commented one hour before the video even released

[@lilkalebmck9941]

Well if that’s the case then that’s alright

[@Grim528]

Awesome thumbnail

[@alexisislas-gonzalez5991]

5:59 also in frontiers the chaos emeralds are from space while the master emerald is from earth

[@dshaynietheawesome]

@@alexisislas-gonzalez5991 and yet they all connected and also for some reason the black arms seem to have some form of connection to them and even weirder in sonic unleashed since all the gaia temples use the chaos emeralds to restore the planet and that they have the ability to restore power to the chaos emeralds implies the emeralds have had a connection with earth since the early days and yet they ended up in the home world of the ancients, but unlike every other being and civilization to to use the emeralds the ancients don’t seem to have a biological connection to chaos energy. so in other words the mystery of the emeralds thickens

[@blockwearingman]

my problem with video game movies is that they don't really use the source material and the fact the sonic movies use so much from the history of sonic make them my favourite video game movies

[@rickyronny4019]

The movies do take inspiration from the source material it’s just they’re not the exact same thing. Changes are obviously going to be made and that’s fine

[@blockwearingman]

@ yes its fine

[@Videospiel-Man5730]

​@@rickyronny4019except turning gerald into eggman 2!

[@rickyronny4019]

@@Videospiel-Man5730 yeah I do not see Gerald as Eggman 2.0

[@KtotheJ524]

Also in the first movie SEGA was being very difficult apparently. Paramount sent the script to Sega and they didn’t like Sonic asking for help.

[@CrophopperGamer]

I like the game version of him alot more.

[@lucasthegamemasterporterfi84]

What about Tom and Maddie’s daughter who gave sonic the red shoes? It’s like she was just erased from existence

[@johnnygallagher5718]

That was actually their niece

[@morisumxd3396]

Yeah that was her niece, remember the lady who was tied up that was her mom and Maddie's sister.

[@claireaquos6532]

Jojo was in the second movie! She was thr one in charges of the rings during the weeding. Considering that that her mom wasn't in the third movie (Not physicly), it makes sence Jojo wouldn't etheir.

[@BrakSplash]

The first thirty seconds literally start off differently

[@zekromfan1]

So you got some information incorrect. We do know some information regarding Sonic’s past, namely that he was born on Christmas Island (it’s why his shoes are red and white) he left his parents there and hasn’t gone back as far as we know since he was 16 at the earliest. Sonic has also had some run-Ins with Eggman prior to the events of Sonic the Hedgehog. Never on the scale of the South Island Incident, but some smaller scale conflicts. It wasn’t until the Chaos Emeralds came into play that Eggman became a bigger threat, which is when we first see their battles. All of this comes from the Japanese manuals for Sonic the Hedgehog. The South Island Incident is really just the first notable encounter between the two. They’ve known each other for a bit before that event transpired. It’s why Sonic is so quick to act, and why Eggman has machines that seem too well prepared to combat Sonic in particular. Some of it is repurposed construction machines, but others are genuine weapons. It’s all last minute on his part so he scrambled to get whatever would work onto the island. A lot of this stuff is lost in translation since it’s all relegated to the Japanese manuals. But there is way more to Eggman’s vendetta against Sonic than just what happens in Sonic the Hedgehog, at least wherein in pertains to that game in particular. It was all building to a head at that point.

[@king_kai28]

I gotta say, I think the movie designs are way better than the games. Sonic and friends have actual fur, instead of looking like plastic. Their eyes are also so much more consistent with real animals instead of being one giant eyeball. Being a cyclops is fine, but he has two pupils. I get he’s an alien but I just don’t like it

[@KHID-JR]

THE MOVIE SONIC IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE SOME SIMILARITIES.🤔.

[@dshaynietheawesome]

@KHID-JR why all caps

[@KHID-JR]

I ALWAYS LIKE TO TALK IN CAPS LOCK.😎.

[@rickyronny4019]

Personally I think both the movies and the games have their own fair share of strengths and advantages

[@dshaynietheawesome]

absolutely, i know we were all worried about the first movie outside of references they added in post but i like how they went from there, i absolutely adore how the second movie stayed true to the first but still brought in elements from game sonic 2, game sonic 3&K and sonic adventure while still feeling cohesive in one movie and how creative they were combining elements like labyrinth zone and hidden palace of instance and still being respectful to the source material

[@rickyronny4019]

@ agreed

[@civilbeast165]

The only problem I had with Sonic’s third movie is how they changed the chao garden. Instead of being faithful to the source material, they made it into a Japan Chuck E Cheese wannabe. They should have made it accurate to the lore and made it an ancient hidden place on earth for Sonic to find like in the second movie when he found the compass and ruins that held the master emerald

[@BlueNinja-pw1yt]

Okay so?

[@SapphireKnight675]

then they have to take away from the plot to explain that when they already had limited time

[@Peasham]

In terms of accuracy ain't faithfulness that's the least of the movie's problems imma be real.

[@BlueNinja-pw1yt]

@@Peasham imo it’s better that it’s not accurate to the games, cuz I don’t like the normal franchise at all.

[@Srb2Nika20]

Bru today I just watched the sonamy video and now this released :0

[@8vt7v7t6f]

ok

[@RubenPlaysYT123]

Still praying for that superstars video

[@jadethehedgehogYT]

I really wish game sonic had the power of electricity

[@rando6677]

Funny you say that Sonic fans on twitter would end u for saying smth like that

[@jadethehedgehogYT]

Wait WHAT?! Also I don’t use Twitter

[@lemon5000-tj6nv]

Sonic is associated with the wind which suites his more carefree personality

[@knuckt.k.9456]

that was confirmed to be chaos energy in the novelization

[@55twintv39]

2:07 Am pretty sure it was Sonic’s power.

[@dshaynietheawesome]

@@55twintv39 but why was knuckles talking about it as if they were going after the master emerald

[@55twintv39]

@ Maybe the others at the time didn’t had powers so they wanted to use Sonic’s power.

[@malachinsimbi]

According to the way they made the CGI in the movie, and what Sonic says in the first movie (and a deleted scene), Sonic was unaware of his electric powers up until the baseball night. That probably means that Sonic’s powers developed as he grew up, rendering him only as useful as speed when he was younger

[@6blo6od]

unpopular opinion movie sonics design is waaaay better than the game but if they merged it together sonic would actually be able to express himself

[@doubleflores8350]

1:18 I don’t know why but it’s so adorable seeing Amy walking home with groceries. Which game is the at from, Sonic adventure?

[@dshaynietheawesome]

@@doubleflores8350 it literally the first moment you see her in her sonic adventure story

[@doubleflores8350]

@@dshaynietheawesomedude, I never played a sonic game. I never even watched the cartoons. I only saw the movies and SatAm.

[@The-Dragon-guy]

5:36 what do you mean when the years wnet by, sonic cd is like one month later and sonic can time travel

[@hiEste]

stay awesome

[@finbarrsworld]

Hot take: Jim Carrey isn’t a good eggman but not a bad one it’s just makes too many jokes than his game counterpart that was a threat

[@ashesGeek]

He's just the most annoying portrayal of the character and he felt wasted for me since the second movie.

[@KarwynSparks]

Actually sonic 3D blast little birds had these rings that they used to telaport

[@LazzieMazzie]

i feel like the movies and games are two different like universes

[@bohemianharpsicord4294]

Shadow looks like sonic because gerald saw the prophetic mural of sonic going super and based shadow off the powerful creature (sonic) Also the 3rd movie seems to have retconned gun formering between the first 2 movies as shadow is in a GUN base

[@Eniggma39]

Movie Sonic: Hyperactive kid Game Sonic: Big Bro Tan arms just look weird to me now

[@JesusKristov]

I enjoyed this video. Sonic is very silly. I love Sonic.

[@justingarrett2239]

I haven't watched the video yet, but I'm hoping the creator talks about how much dumber movie Knuckles is than video game Knuckles and how much different their voices are

[@Peasham]

I'd have been fine with him being so dumb if everyone wasn't glazing the movie for doing Knuckles "right" and not making him dumb. Bro literally SEES that Eggman's a dishonorable liar and is shocked when he turns out to be a dishonorable liar lmao

[@GTCrunch]

I want a Sonic game based on the movies..

[@TheLegendaryMovieCritic]

Movie Sonic is so powerful along with Shadow!

[@tonyajennings6885]

Why does Eggman have a government name even though he tries to destroy the government?

[@jeuxsansfrontieres6525]

Regarding Gun's origin in the films.... there's a bit of a glaring plot hole. The second film states that GUN was created because of Sonic's arrival in the first film... Yet in the third film, GUN already existed 50 years ago. I really wish they had actually addressed this in the film. Maybe Commander Walter's lied to the Sonic family in the second... idk. Just shows they weren't planning on making these too connected.

[@dshaynietheawesome]

@@jeuxsansfrontieres6525 i agree, that and the chaos emeralds being in the master emerald again after flying off in the last movie

[@jeuxsansfrontieres6525]

@dshaynietheawesome If I remember correctly, they do show Knuckles putting the Madter Emerald back together at the end of the movie. Which that alone could have been the plot for the Knuckles show... finding the pieces of the Master Emerald and putting it back together... oh the wasted potential 😢

[@dshaynietheawesome]

@ like the chaos emeralds fly off into the sky like they do in numerous games and knuckles doesn’t put the master emerald back together until afterwards and theres no implication that the chaos emeralds were part of it again and theres no explanation in the third movie

[@Spore_z]

In the games sonic was brown but went inside a machine that eggman built before he was evil, sonic came out blue (im not sure if he went in with a chaos emerald) eggman then fell in with a rotten egg and became evil

[@dshaynietheawesome]

no, that is not from the games

[@WitchHunterSiegfried88]

3:52 cue Ken threatening to sue Paramount for stealing Enerjak (no really)

[@MattWeaver-bc9dr]

Sonic 3 was actually pretty entertaining.

[@dr.ivorobotnik8910]

8:54 and 9:46 where did you find those scenes ? I would like the source please

[@dshaynietheawesome]

@@dr.ivorobotnik8910 reused from right here kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJCoiZxjgsaUjacsi=_C9viUxuuNKnPciO

[@dr.ivorobotnik8910]

@dshaynietheawesome thank you

[@fulcrumusprime5782]

Well if you take in consideration the sonic IDW and Archie comics are somewhat canon with the games and explains that sonic and his friends are from the planet mobius and just came to earth at different points in time due to humanity and mobians having a peace treaty and encountering each other many years ago and began co existing and working together

[@dshaynietheawesome]

@@fulcrumusprime5782 no the archie comics are not canon 😑

[@jjb1908]

Sonic fans may hate me for saying this, but I think the movies explained some things better than the games and have characters be better developed. Also Sonic is a stronger character in the movies than the games

[@DERRELL-qw8kw]

That's make sense, but I will say this, there is no power scaling in Sonic, everyone in the movies and games have been proven to be on par or been able to find ways to best Sonic in a one on one fight, plus in the movies we clearly see Knuckles and Shadow be on par or beat him as well, it's all about skill and reflexes when it comes to combat in Sonic, power is rarely a thing.

[@jjb1908]

@@DERRELL-qw8kw What does that have to do with what I was talking about? I wasn't talking about power scaling. That's not what I meant when I said "stronger character"

[@Peasham]

On top of Sonic being extraordinarily generic in all movies so far, they constantly contradict his development. Case in point, his development in movie 2 was him proving himself as a capable hero, only for him to completely reject being a hero in the epilogue because in his own words, he's just a kid and he's not ready for that responsibility, as though he didn't prove otherwise throughout the movie, but then in the sequel the second GUN shows up and tells him they need him he's instantly fine with being a hero like he didn't explicitly reject it in movie 2. Which is to say, nah, this is absolute amateur hour.

[@jjb1908]

@@Peasham whatever

[@JakeThehedgehog-m1x]

9:41 untillll G.U.N get obliterated by eggman in forces.

[@Eniggma39]

Game Sonic: No Agent Stone 😭

[@AnimationSonicPlushChannel]

2:01 i think they would've enslaved sonic for his power to get through all of the obstacles in labryinth

[@EiForgor]

I loved when Sonic crashed the absolute fuck out and went band for band with shadow 1:50 I think they were just planning on taking the emerald via longclaw, and planned on taking Sonic to make it easier for them. Knux has the same powers as him, so i doubt they’d really need Sonic’s.

[@Peasham]

Imma be real they just forgot about the power thing

[@thedman1754]

I mean, we don't have any proof that Movie Tails, Sonic and Knuckles are all from different planets. we know that both Sonic and Knuckles are from the same world, since Knuckles describes the day his father left him to battle "the last of the Owl tribe" as the same day Sonic had Longclaw taken from him. sure, they could have travelled to Sonic's home via Warp Ring, but both Sonic and Knuckles have such similar body shapes and features that I find it much easier to believe they're from the same world. Additionally, when describing his home, Sonic says "the island where I'm from." not "the world where I'm from." Tails could very easily be from an entirely separate town, and it would make sense since, again, their anatomy looks very similar.

[@dshaynietheawesome]

@@thedman1754 maybe i should of elaborated since i was wrapping up, the video already covers sonic & knuckles are from the same islands but tails did make it seem like he was from somewhere else but point stands it seems the animal civilizations jump from world to world with more out there, we know from the prequel comic that knuckles has spent the past 10 years traveling from different planets training as a warrior and searching for leads on the the master emerald

[@dshaynietheawesome]

@@thedman1754 even so the whole aspect of them being aliens is born from the first movie’s script being that comes to the real world movie concept and that at that point in time of it’s production sonic team didn’t have their own story straight on the two worlds thing before re clarifying it with tailstube a couple years later now that they have a dedicated lore team

[@eonnexus]

Eggman's logs in forces DO tell us that his family basically neglected him because they were so caught up in mourning Maria's death, the reason he turned to villainy was because of that, his resentment turning his admiration and goal to be like Gerald into SURPASSING him. Also, just got out the movie so SPOILER ALERT (This is PURELY in regards to GUN's formation, but just in case) GUN has been a thing since before Shadow's creation in the movies, I WOULD say that maybe they went by a different name or disbanded, but they even had the logo back then and has apparently been monitering Shadow the whole 50 years, contradicting both GUN's formation in the 2nd movie AND the post credit reveal that they only just (re)discovered him. The old man that TOLD US of GUN's formation in the 2nd movie even worked for them DIRECTLY 50 years ago and was involved with improsoning Shadow. So yeah, it's just straight up a continuity error.

[@dshaynietheawesome]

in terms of eggman thats a bit of a reach because the egg memo says everyone loved maria and he didn’t understand what was so special and then demands that he should of had all that attention which is a very eggman thing to do

[@LoginJ]

I wanna eat the master emerald.

[@iamjaboba]

After every movie/spinoff announcement, we all ask a collective, "imagine if they kept this franchise going with the ugly sonic design"

[@MexicanDragon2000]

09:26 [SPOILERS] . . . . Apparently there's a deleted scene from the third movie that reveals Gerald used the energy of Shadow's quills to extend his lifespan.

[@BrucePillay-x5o]

7:45 skip spoilers

[@JokeJunction_haha]

The sonic x show is more similar to the movies in terms of how they got there

[@clarenceandgennymcneil251]

No offense, and I mean this politely but I think we get the whole old design point, I personally like the old design Sonic, and I don't mean the chip and Dale thing. Once again, Not being rude, but I get it.

[@dshaynietheawesome]

@@clarenceandgennymcneil251 how else do i make my point that nobody could of seen how well this series could of developed when we first saw….that….thing…..

[@clarenceandgennymcneil251]

@@dshaynietheawesome My mom died this day last year, I'm upset, I'm trying to respect your opinion, Please don't push me. And that deleted scene when Longclaw died and OLD DESIGN sonic took care of her reminds me of how my .... You know never mind, keep doing what your doing, weither you guys on you tube disrespect me or not. Seriously Happy new year. Although I feel worse now so... bye.

[@SamLegendaryRESET]

No instead of killing him they gave his cgi a plastic surgery. In the 2nd movie the stand a plastic surgery too.

[@mateenfrds2519]

Hey 17 hours can i be in a video?

[@bobtom1495]

Ok.... what about Sonic X?....

[@dshaynietheawesome]

what about sonic x

[@bobtom1495]

@@dshaynietheawesome Sonic is basically an alien in that show and is not from Earth....

[@dshaynietheawesome]

@bobtom1495 yeah well he’s not an alien and he is from earth in the games so what’s sonic X got to do with this?

[@bobtom1495]

@@dshaynietheawesome I'm just saying in Sonic X he was an alien which is something to compare to the movies....

[@dshaynietheawesome]

@@bobtom1495 again this isn’t about sonic X, this video is about comparing the movies to the games

[@valmid5069]

[@ViktorSkipina]

1:13 not true! Theyre from mobius and not earthlings! 😊

[@BWeller-Fahy]

I believe that’s only in older games. I believe all the games since Sonic Adventure 2 take place in the same timeline, where humans and humanoid animals coexist on the same world, with different territories and such. I could be wrong though.

[@fawkesthefox912]

That's Sonic X canon.

[@dshaynietheawesome]

@@ViktorSkipina whats a mobius

[@animegirl7277]

It's only happens in the comics while in the games, the humans and anthropomorphic animals coexist in the same world.

[@ViktorSkipina]

@animegirl7277 not true classic games exist and sonic x and I know there will be people saying "but they aren't in the same timeline" again I have to say it NOT TRUE! In sonic frontiers knuckles gets a flashback from sonic 3 and that's the reason they're on mobius ok I will give you sonic unleashed calls it earth but that doesn't stop mobius from being a second name for earth becose in sonic unleashed the planet structure looks nothing like earth

[@jcasali3391]

7:46

[@nkechieze8905]

Patcha what ?