DT1990 MK2...is Beyer better?

[@iridescentgherkin]

It's as if Beyerdynamic has the same head engineer since the 1980's but now he's 98 years old and his hearing is totally missing anything over 5KHz.

[@shaggings]

Maybe they are targetting that age group?! I FIGURED IT OUT!

[@CHRISZIOMusic]

exactly what I was thinking xD

[@mastroitek]

1y ago I bought the MK1 and genuinely thought they were broken because in my mind there was no way that such a famous headphone was so damn bright. I returned them as "defective" and the new model was just as peaky as the first one. What a nice pair of "studio" headphones 😂💀

[@NyteStalker89]

@@mastroitekif you buy beyer without research which tells you that you need to EQ their headphones heavily, you went about it wrong lol

[@arrowzen7433]

That would be very German.

[@zephrizi9034]

Wish more headphone company's would make their headphones this easy to work on if repairs are needed.

[@JeffreyPanza]

Speaking of studio headphones, are you going to review the Sony MDR-M1?

[@xentiment6581]

MV1 as well. They rock

[@mahouaniki4043]

DT2000 almost there

[@shaggings]

Imagine how great (Or awful) the DT-2020 would sound!

[@mccririck01]

Maybe the DT2025 will hit the mark?

[@taaviv4185]

Ok, so they are still bright. Graphs and all, what about rest of the sound? How are the transients, stereo separation, quality of bass etc? I have the MK1, and for studo work (and for musical enjoyment) 1990 are way better than HD490. Sure the latter has a more natural graph, but soft transients of HD490 made everything sound too damn polite. The drum sounds of smooth jazz vs distorted to oblivion breakcore should have different impact. Together with the build quality + considering all you get from the package, DT-1990 are still one of the best deals in below 500 price category. This graph pondering while discarding other aspects is getting a bit ridiculous.

[@markshenefelt7611]

I find them more comfortable and less bright than the OG. Vocals also seem to be a touch either louder or brought forward more. Bass still sounds good.

[@Ton-uy1xd]

I'm with you 100%. This reviewer seems to be super sensitive to treble sibilance. I've had many Senns and Beyers over the years and I like both brands. But as someone who primarily enjoys electronic music, I usually choose my DT1990s.

[@sjoggy]

When I first listened to dt 1990 pro mk1, I felt it was so bright to an almost faulty sound. I really hated them, then I eq them and the things sounded more rounded... But as time have passed I started to 'understand' them as they (with no eq) easily show imperfections on even damn good productions and that's their purpose. They do sound harsh with no eq but things sound pretty informative both sound stage wize and content wize on them. Don't get me wrong, I'll take hd 600 8 out of 10 times vs 1990 pro to chill and listen to the music as they are much more smooth, still pretty tight headphones... But for critical reference (for modern genres at least) I'll take Beyers 7 out of ten times over hd 600 (I also own them besides dt 1990pro and bunch of other ones)... For some reason I never had great success with mixes on hd 600, while with beyers I can manage in that translating to other systems department.... I also own NS-10s, and dude, no disrespect but you have missed an ocean from a free throw line in a few words about them... This explains again how audiophiles and studio heads have different sound approach...

[@visi3910]

Honestly I know most people don't like it, but I really like bright headphones like this. To each their own, our hearing is all different.

[@oktober-r8i]

I see it the same way as you, but according to them you must have tinnitus or some other hearing damage and that is firstly an unprovable allegation and secondly it is a matter of taste. People here are also constantly saying that analytical listening is no fun and is fatiguing. Maybe for these gentlemen, because they don't hear like that, but not for everyone.

[@Decenium]

yep thats the thing, ears are subjective, and then what you actually like to hear is even more subjective

[@jeremymanton5320]

I always enjoyed the dt1990 despite the peak. I actually bought the DCA E3 on DMS’s glowing recommendation, and I find that tuning to be much harder to listen to than the dt1990. The shoutyness in the upper mids have me turning down E3 volume all the time. Just shows how subjective this hobby is.

[@oktober-r8i]

Exactly! Different people...different ears...different preferences.

[@ToysForTheGods]

I pulled all of my Beyerdynamcs off my shelf last night with this feeling of nostalgia that I was looking for, what I got instead was so dissapointing, headphones that i own that are 1/4 of the price sound better and stage better, back on the top shelf they went, just to sit there and look pretty. I however decided to pull down my AKG K7xx that I had pad swapped way back in the day with some hybrid Dekonis, and damn could not believe how these have held up over time. I have not taken them off my head since I put them on (aside from sleep). I have them plugged into the Xduo ta-66 and I really forgot how much I enjoyed these. Granted My headband failed early on and I had to modify it for them to fit as the elastic just gave up after 6 months. I don't have the DT 900 Pro X but I am am so burnt on my old beyers I just can't see reaching for a pair at this point.

[@Jezza-m5k]

The complete BS people say about Beyer 'phones is ridiculous. They say the DT 990 is a treble canon, for example. Yes, it is if you use third-rate over-priced modern no-name Chi-fi... I listen to a lot of these reviewers on You Tube and they haven't got a clue... I have all of the classic Beyers and Sennheisers and AKGs et al. Beyer phones sound excellent - not bright! - using valve amplification and British hi-fi equipment... I have the original mk1 DT990 and that is far from a bright sounding headphone... I have the MK2 from the early Nineties and the Premium 600 ohm edition. Both of these sound excellent and punch well above their weight, sonically speaking. I own the original DT1990... it is a very analytical headphone with detail retrieval that rivals that of phones costing far more. There are many overpriced, no-name makes of 'phones that emerged when headphones suddenly became a "cash cow" in the early 2000s iPod era. Brands like, say, Hifiman are junk, in my opinion, but they are not the only ones! And DMS mentions the Sennheiser HD490 Pro... talk about mediocre. A DT990 never mind DT1990 will sonically outperform the aforementioned Sennheiser, and by a considerable margin!

[@timpecker2527]

​​@@Jezza-m5k "no name chifi" no actually I'd like you to provide examples.

[@timpecker2527]

​@@Jezza-m5k don't want to be spreading DIP now do we?

[@Jezza-m5k]

You are very demanding, and DIP? Difficult Individual Perplexes...Nosce te ipsum...

[@Kalanxe]

​@@Jezza-m5k what chifi model has a 15db treble spike? Please do tell.

[@GeorgeAmodei21]

Thx for making this Vid. I just bought over the Holidays the dt 900 Pro X & dt 700 Pro X … was hoping to buy & compare the mk2 1990 to the 900 Pro X like you just did. So now I’m kind of happy yet wondering if I should grab a Sennheiser ? Thx again, George

[@how_ard_kao]

Hey DMS, first of all, thanks for the video and I do love the show you guys did. I respect your takes on the 1990 MK II but I just can’t agree with some points you said in the video. For your takes on NS10, yes, they are definitely very consistent and that’s one of the reasons that most of the studios bought them. But that is not the only reason why NS10s are so popular. “If you can make music sound good on those, they they’ll sound good everywhere”- this is somehow an accurate description of those speakers, cuz they are so mid forward, they do help engineers to focus on the mids and that is where most music lives in. The stiff paper material of the woofer is so fast and stops right the notes end and the closed design eliminates the “dragged” low end that is an issue of the ported design cabinets. The fast speed of the NS10s makes them sound so bad but also so easy to dial in the compressor settings. The bad low end extension eliminates some of the not perfect acoustics issues in the low frequencies that allows working engineers to work fast from studio to studio without having to get so used to the room. Those aspects makes those bad sounding speakers translate so well to the consumer devices most ppl are listening to music rn. Lastly, just don’t blame the bad mixes you heard on gears or even the engineers. Those aren’t the reasons that you’re hearing some bad mixes, it’s because of the bad working conditions in the music industry rn that producers and artists don’t want to pay for professional engineers and decides to do the mixes and recording themselves and they don’t even fully understand that they’re not really qualified for putting out good mixes. The low barrier of producing music these days is the main reason that we all got bad mixes to listen now and you’ll never know how much works engineers put in to fix the problem when they receive all those bad sources. As a working engineer I learnt recently not every mix have to sound technically correct, some of the great mixes done by great engineers have some unbalanced level, some peaky frequencies, even some bad takes. But they just sound right and if they are done in the “technical” or “scientific” accurate way then the song won’t be that emotionally impactful. “Balanced mixes are boring” that is something really important that I learnt, maybe the similar concept can be applied on some particular headphones.

[@tweed0929]

How dare you using logic and actually making sense in the Internet?

[@how_ard_kao]

@ just trying my best helping the lost bros out here

[@listener-reviews]

> they do help engineers to focus on the mids and that is where most music lives in True! If you specifically want to ignore the bass and treble and just focus on balance of a narrow band, the NS10 does do that... but so would a bandpass filter on another set of speakers (and importantly, the NS10's band-limited sound notwithstanding, its frequency response inside that narrow bandwidth isn't especially linear). > The stiff paper material of the woofer is so fast and stops right the notes end and the closed design eliminates the “dragged” low end that is an issue of the ported design cabinets. This is largely to do with the frequency response/band-limiting. A speaker that has no bass will generally sound faster because it's not reproducing the low frequencies which indeed are literally slower, however this doesn't mean that it's necessarily better. Ideally you'd be able to actually hear the low end you're affecting/changing and how it relates to the other regions when making decisions. Additionally, it's important to note that the NS10 really came to prominence in an era when low frequency reproduction was meaningfully harder to get in consumer listening setups than it is today. > The fast speed of the NS10s makes them sound so bad but also so easy to dial in the compressor settings. I used to think this as well, but the fact is when it comes to the envelope/transient response, a linear full-bandwidth speaker is always going to give you the most honest representation of the dynamic envelope, as well as of course the changes a mixer would be making with compressors/gates/limiters. > The bad low end extension eliminates some of the not perfect acoustics issues in the low frequencies that allows working engineers to work fast from studio to studio without having to get so used to the room. This is actually an interesting take. I'm not sure I agree, but having a speaker with such bad low end that you know its not even worth paying attention to the low end might indeed make decision making faster hahaha. The more I think about this one the more I'm surprised I hadn't heard it before LOL I don't think balanced mixes are bereft the ability to be emotional, but I also don't think a mix has to be perfectly balanced to elicit that positive emotional response. It's art, after all! :D

[@how_ard_kao]

@@listener-reviews Yeah the popularity of NS10s really lean heavily on its era of production. But I still think the points I mentioned above really proves that NS10s could be extremely useful as an ALTERNATIVE pair of reference. Back then there were very limited use of DSP on audio gears, especially speakers, the most viable way to switch in between references is hard switch to different sets of speakers with totally different sound signatures. You’re definitely right about less bass is not necessarily better. Again, back in its era, producing sealed box design speakers with great low end extensions could be extremely hard, even now in 2024, good closed design speakers generally lives in the higher-end professional use market. Indeed as audio engineers we love to have speakers with great transient response across the frequencies. We just have to wait til the speaker designers eventually breaks the law of physics to make the perfect pair of monitors. I learnt this the hard way, couldn’t tell how many times NS10s saved my ass when I arrived in a studio with a set of monitors that are extremely hard for me to get used to (eg. small room with a pair of 8-inches hooked on a sub). Just a quick switch to the good old NS10s allows me to quickly dial in the vocal setting and get the session up and running with confidence. That is extremely valuable. Most studios, even the larger ones generally have their own issue acoustically speaking. Generally in the low end. Sometimes it’s just the speakers you can’t get used to (relatively big punch and low end of barefoot for example). Just don’t get me started on how fast and easy you can balance out the drum kit while tracking. After all, monitors are just tools for getting the work done. I don’t really use NS10 while I’m mixing. Growing and learning in a large recording facility built in the 90s, we have NS10s in every room, learnt a lot working with those old speakers and kinda found them useful (again, as secondary reference) even in modern day production. Just that engineers and producers coming up lately appreciate those white cones less and haven’t had the luxury to work with a pair of NS10s pushing with great amps. Great discussion!

[@how_ard_kao]

@@listener-reviews also the point of “balanced mixes are boring” is to encourage engineers thinking out of the box. Instead of always making things sound ”right”, experimenting with unorthodox tones and balance could lead the way to a more musical final outcome. But all those experiments should based on experience and understanding how to create balanced sound in the first place.

[@FabioGrenkh]

Still looking forward to your FiiO FT1 Pro review DMS 🙏

[@TheHEADPHONEShow]

Coming soon!

[@FabioGrenkh]

@@TheHEADPHONEShow Let’s gooo! Appreciate the reply! :D

[@Uchebuike]

I use a passive filter for the 8 khz area of the original 1990, problem solved, great headphone.

[@Mishael_Agyei-Boamah]

Studio headphones are meant to be accurate not bright. People conflate the two

[@metal571]

It was so common for "pro" or "studio" labeled headphones to clearly measure bright that I used to call this a "studio" sounding type of headphone tuning lmao, we know better now

[@FenrirAlter]

dunno most actual audio engineers i know use bright headphones like the ananda nano or the beyers

[@keremkesici4244]

@@FenrirAlter This is the internet after all. Everybody is a sound engineer on here and knows better. Producer "OZ" has been using his 1990s for over 5 years as seen in a recent Instagram story. He made multiple Platinum tracks, so there´s that.

[@akhyarrayhka4048]

bright means detailed, smh

[@olamstaden]

I love the build, but the treble hurt my ears after 30 min listening so much that I had to return it after 2 hours again...

[@oktober-r8i]

f you can't handle the highs, then you'll just have to look at another manufacturer. That´s not the problem. But what is being completely denied to the DT1990 pro(MK2) here is its right to exist. That would be the same as only allowing cars with turbos on the road and banning those without. There are people who don't want or need a turbo. Live and let live.

[@olamstaden]

@ Exactly, its just not for me. It might be ok for others...

[@jefryions5657]

​@@oktober-r8i what a completely and utter overreaction.

[@jefryions5657]

@@oktober-r8i please go back to the unemployment office because you are way too comfortable with your free time.

[@oktober-r8i]

@@jefryions5657 What`s your problem?

[@asukayanami7159]

1:10 You can actually exchange the mounting rings so that 1990pro can use the 900prox's earpads or vice versa

[@jrenova]

Wait, how can you please tell us more about this?

[@kylehowdy]

8:34 to 8:38 is all I watched, guess I'll buy the headphones!

[@VeitLehmann]

Oh man, it's a pity... I really like the company for building long-lasting and easy to repair headphones. I recently watched a video review of the DT 1990 MK2 with audio samples, and even though there are many limiting factors and sources of errors with this approach, I could still clearly hear the peaks and dips that your frequency response chart shows. I also have the DT 770 Pro 80 Ohms and the DT 880 Edition 600 Ohms. Both sound great! I use the DT 880 Edition for ages now, the DT 770 Pro is the one I just bought. I compared it to the DT 770 Pro X LE and the DT 700 Pro X, both of which couldn't keep up with the classic DT 770 Pro at all. Looks like Beyerdynamic has had better times in the past when it comes to measuring and tuning. I hope they will get back to the golden years.

[@rudlzavedno7279]

I have their "gaming" headset Tygr 300R and must say I'm pretty impressed by it after applying EQ to bring it's curve somewhat more into the neutral range. It's soundstage is enourmous for 150 bucks headset, hell it's wider than most $500 headsets. Midrange vocals are so so, but then again I have narrow HD600 and Arya stealth to enjoy classic music.

[@bad_metaphor]

I think they (Beyer) consider this part of their "house sound" and their interpretation of the highs indicates "detail" in the listening experience. I've owned DT990 250ohm's version for 11 years and I'm not sure if it's damaged but now I think it's just their house sound. Shouty highs and garbled mids but decent bass.

[@DRUMURDBEATS]

Bro, i’ve bought DT 1990 Pro MKII couple days ago and its waaay better and detailed (not bright) than my DT 900 Pro that I was happy to work with for the last 3 year straight mixing & mastering my music and projects for clients. 1990 MKII opened the sound perspective a lot for me after DT 900. I felt lack of 3D dimensional sound feeling & depth when mixing in DT 900, with 1990 I can hear all the nuances of my mixes with an ease and precision. I think it really depends on which interface you use 1990, on my 2023 macbook pro they sound a bit bright yeah, but with Audient interface it sound full and nice, nothing annoying me at highs honestly. I’ve compared my mixes made with DT 900 vs how I’ve tweaked them with new 1990 - night & day difference for real! I can hear EQ, Comp and other stuff way faster and clearly with 1990 MKII when using it with Audeint interface. DT 900 is good headphones for sure, but at the end of 2024 I felt like I grew out of DT 900 sound signature - I really wanted something more deep and dimensional so I got me new DT 1990 MKII and so happy with em - the most expensive headphones I've ever had lol. PS: I’ve also started to use UAD plugins for the first time after buying 1990, so this means a lot for me and now I feel and hear how 1990 leveled up my workflow and overall quality of my mixes. I really feel and hear the investment in sound with my new 1990 MKII

[@oktober-r8i]

You like the new DT1990 pro mk2? That`s not allowed here. Be careful, you'll probably be accused of hearing damage/hearing problems.

[@DenofLeos]

Are they slower, faster , same as the previous in decay??

[@xeroeddie]

Great video! I really want an open back headphone for general use, mixing videos, gaming, music, podcast listening etc. I already have a DT700 32 ohms and I like them, but the earpads are just a little bit too small (I'm thinking of getting the velour pads instead of the pleather ones). Would love a pair that gives just a little more room for my ears in all directions. I've heard good things about both the Tygr 300R and the DT900, but I'm afraid that the DT900 is identical to the DT700 in terms of size. From what I've heard the Tygr gives a bit more room to the ears and the clamp force is allegedly a bit more comfortable. It doesn't necessarily need to be Beyerdynamics, but I would like a pair that can be run directily into my PC.

[@KostooR]

Beyer sometimes makes very strange decisions considering their product line-up. For instance I cannot fathom why they discontinued the Custom Studio headphones which are incredible in terms of durability (replacable cable, pads and headband cover) and sound noticeably better than the DT770 Pro, they're more resolving and less fatiguing, with great bass (with some EQ). Also, the DT770 Pro and the DT880 Pro probably still blow all of their newer and more expensive models out of the water sonically. DMS is so right about Beyer being blind to scientific advancements and (I would also add) user comments.

[@VeitLehmann]

I have exactly the same experience. My DT 880 Edition are still better than most other headphones in this price category. And my DT 770 Pro is also better than its newer brothers (compared it against the DT 700 Pro X, DT 770 Pro X LE, and some other brands in the same price range). I never listened to the Custom Studio, but it seems awesome on paper.

[@metal571]

Pretty sure the Custom Studio is the same as the 770 80 ohm driver in my experience with them, except they've got that adjustable bass port and the removable cable. It's amazing that Beyer still hasn't been able to surpass their oldest models, and when given the opportunity, tame the exaggerated treble in the process

[@oktober-r8i]

@@metal571 Here again, and if I have to write it for the hundredth time, there are plenty of people who love these heights and don't "suffer" from them. Simply accepting and respecting them would be appropriate. Anyone who "suffers" from them has not informed himself in advance if highs bother him. There are countless other options out there. And all this is possible without labeling the other as "bad, very bad".

[@xeroeddie]

Is the DT900 more "open backed" than the DT1990?

[@johnellison3173]

Yes we get it. You like the 490 pro. Even though you all admited the sound wasnt great which was odd considering how much this channel hypes it 😅

[@AnDr3w066]

Its not that it wasnt great but just lacking considering the 560s existence and the price. 490 has the price and comfort

[@timkelmer1268]

It's better than this.

[@markshenefelt7611]

490 was way too boring for me.

[@keremkesici4244]

@@timkelmer1268 It may be for listening to music, for mixing the DT1990 easily beats the 490 Pro using the analytical pads.

[@clickbaitpro]

​@@timkelmer1268490 is much worse than this in sound. 490 is more comfortable though and that's it. 1990 is more spacious and refined, more resolving

[@tv_Florimer]

Fun fact, until i put on my headphones, i didn't even know there was a background audio track through the video.

[@zanychelly]

Are you guys going to check the new Aventho 300 ? i don’t understand the argument that it is bright because it a “studio” headphone for mixing… If you mix with it you would need to force correct the brightness in your head, because what you hear, is not what is there in reality…

[@S7ORM3X]

came from the twitter thumbnail stayed for the review

[@STEELFOX2000]

TBH Im just going to AUNE Headphones , Verum 1/2 , Hifiman old top models that are cheap now and an eye observing some Sigva products, if my budget increase i Will do straight to ZMF! THATS THE WAY!!!

[@rustydog2112]

the best "beyerdynamic" out there right now is the Meze 109 pro.

[@markshenefelt7611]

I’m currently auditioning the meze vs the mk2 right now lol

[@MoonshineBeforeSunshine]

​@@markshenefelt7611 which one did you end up with? I'm also contemplating about the two.

[@markshenefelt7611]

@@MoonshineBeforeSunshineI returned the meze. It didn’t soundstage as well as I hoped but sounded more open and cleaner.

[@harvelein]

I got the 1770 Pro MK2, which they released alongside the 1990 and I can reassure you, at least the closed backs version is very well made and fun to listen to.

[@frankhu8692]

After giving by numerous try, i would say totally no

[@Jcrash1]

Just returned the 1770 pro MK2 due to peaks still being present. Wasn’t a huge fan of the sound, also didn’t like the way it felt on the head. Focal lensys professional sounded much better to me and much more comfortable. I now have the hd620s and honestly for how much cheaper the 620s is when it’s on sale I prefer the 620s. Less than half of the price of the focals but 90% of the quality.

[@harvelein]

@@Jcrash1 really? I experienced the peaks on the 770X LE and they let my ears bleed but I find they tamed them a lot on the 1770. How is the bass on the 620s compared to the 1770 MK2?

[@harvelein]

@@frankhu8692 what would you say is wrong with the sound?

[@Jcrash1]

@ bass is less on 620s. I’m buying closed backs for bass response but the bass when eqd right sounds the same. The treble is much more relaxed, and I don’t get any silence on them either. My other open backs are 660s2s and I mained those for a while and I tried tons of open backs and they just sounded so natural. That’s one thing I also didn’t like on the 1770s is that stuff just didn’t sound natural to me. Treble can overwhelm bass easily, especially with those peaks. I like to jam out once in a while and listen to music loudly and I simply couldn’t on the 1770 mk2s. Whenever I got up to my higher listening level it was unbearable even with the treble turned down. It’s just the peaks that killed it for my ear at least. The 620s is not perfect by any means but for 250$ on sale I think it’s a steal. Great isolation and comfort too. I just needed headphones to give me more bass than my open backs, not be fatiguing, comfortable and isolating noise well and 620s fit the bill. Next headphones I’d like to try is the Dan Clarke E2 or norie x

[@rafasanos]

I'm a 'studio' guy with several headphones for my music production, in addition to my studio monitors, and I hate bright headphones. I have tried different Beyerdynamic headphones several times and never understood how people can buy them. Actually, I have always thought that the only reason people buy them is because they are German products, assuming that if it's German, it's good.

[@oktober-r8i]

The second reason: There are people outside who are not so sensitive to the highs...halleluja!

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

@@oktober-r8i not 15db so.

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

@@oktober-r8i purchase validation addiction, hallelujah!

[@clickbaitpro]

buys it and after pad wear/compression, it sound so much better, the harsh treble goes away. In contrast to HD 650, they sounds great when they're new but becomes too muddy after the pad wear

[@jamesstevens968]

i was going to order the beyerdynamic dt 1770 mk2 for gaming and movies i heard there awesome for that. WHAT'S YOUR OPINION.

[@znoozaros]

Get Sennheiser HD620S they are great for gaming and movies. If you want maximum movie experience get Sony MDR-M1 but they're not so good for gaming

[@hartyewh1]

Beyers need EQ and DT1770 does very little worth the price even with EQ. DT770 250ohm has a place in it's price class, but for a closed back gaming headphone Maxwell slaps Beyers so hard that it's not even funny.

[@znoozaros]

@@hartyewh1 maxwell is way heavier, less comfortable and worse in audio for gaming than the hd 620s though. I've had both

[@harvelein]

I got them for gaming and music and I think they're great. They fixed the treble problem for these and I think even out of the box, the sound profile is quite "fun" for a studio headphone.

[@hartyewh1]

@@znoozaros True. How much it matters is subjective.

[@blankcheckguy69]

ok if this sucks then what’s the best closed back studio headphone for monitoring under $600?

[@VolodymyrTorkalo]

Just apply +6-8 db in bass region and all points from video will become not actual. This review is valid only if user is not allowed to use EQ

[@Apenoot696]

Dude you should not EQ headphones ever. Next thing we know people will start adjusting the seats in their cars, madness!

[@FenrirAlter]

@@Apenoot696 especially considering they react really well to eq and you dont need a highend amp like the mk I needed

[@stef-h2r]

that is any headphone review. why wouldn't they be talking about the stock fr? that's how most people are gonna use it to begin with

[@Apenoot696]

@@stef-h2r you can talk about both, taking EQ well makes headphones more versatile which is what you want in expensive gear. It is a strenght of the 1990's, it makes no sense to gimp your purchases by not allowing EQ. You adjust the fit and sometimes pads/headband if required and people raise and lower volume so why not tune it to your liking?

[@schellstede]

Thank you !!! Finally a channel that does not praise whatever is reviewed. Can you also start reviewing other hifi gear. The community needs some counterweight to the rigged reviews of most hifi channels. Did you try the Sony MDR-MV1? Really nice Studio Headphones that work perfectly for Hifi as well.

[@KingdomKey57]

Where have you been? He has been doing reviews since 2016?

[@schellstede]

@@KingdomKey57 yepp, clearly missed something here.

[@Mishael_Agyei-Boamah]

@@schellstede well they have already reviewed the MV1

[@schellstede]

@@Mishael_Agyei-Boamah uuuuh, great, will have a look right now, thanks for the info

[@metal571]

Yep they've been doing that for years now so you're in the right place now!

[@Gershy13]

How do they compare to the tygr 300? Is thr tygr less bright?

[@andreasels779]

In this video: DMS hating on Beyerdynamic, because he is treble sensitive. More news at 11.

[@JohnClarkW]

DMS is not treble sensitive. He tends to like lots of gear that is bright gear. Beyer just loves excessive treble

[@humanbass]

Anyone who isnt sensitive to those peaks has actual hearing loss.

[@Apenoot696]

@@humanbass hearing damage like hyperacusis can also cause sensitivity to treble and peaks. There is no need to talk down people and assume they must somehow be defective for liking something you don't.

[@killerbsting1621]

He said he loved the mk1 but not the mk2, which has less treble! 😂😂😂 not making much sense

[@JohnClarkW]

@@killerbsting1621 almost except ranks the mk2 as the worst of the three.

[@ConsecDesign]

ayyo D, what watch is that?

[@kailisse3267]

Thanks for the honest review DMS. If you wanted to pronounce the name of the brand „beyerdynamic“ correctly, it should sound more like „buyer“ rather than „bear“. Greetings from Germany 👋

[@KostooR]

Are you sure? It's spelled Beyer-, not Beier- after all.

[@Prxyshj]

I don’t think this is correct. It is two syllables, that part is true. But the Be- isn’t the same as Bu- in Buyer

[@kailisse3267]

## Phonetic Transcription: Beyer In the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA), the pronunciation of "Beyer" is [ˈbaɪər]. ### Detailed Breakdown: - The stress falls on the first syllable - "Be-" is pronounced like the word "buy" - The "-er" ending is a schwa-like sound, similar to the "er" in "water" ### Pronunciation Guide: - First syllable: sounds like "bye" - Second syllable: soft "er" sound - Approximate phonetic spelling for English speakers: "BAI-er" The name has a German origin and maintains its original Germanic pronunciation when spoken in English.

[@KostooR]

@@kailisse3267 OK, so I can agree with you that the first part of the name should be pronounced "Baya", but if we were consistent we should also pronounce the second part "Dynamik" not "Deinamik". I don't understand why the first part is pronounced in a German way, but the second part is basically pronounced like the English word "dynamic". ???

[@kailisse3267]

@@KostooR You are right. The naming of "beyerdynamic" may be perceived as inconsistent, as it combines the German surname "Beyer" with the English adjective "dynamic." This mixture of languages reflects the international orientation of the company while still preserving its German roots. In German pronunciation, the company name is typically pronounced consistently in German, with "dynamic" sounding like the German noun "Dynamik." This means it is not pronounced as an English word but rather in a way that feels natural for German speakers. The correct pronunciation would be "Beyer-dynamik" rather than "Beyer-dynamic."

[@oktober-r8i]

Dear Beyerdynamic team, please don't listen to his "advice". You don't need to. You've been doing this fantastically for decades and a BD has to sound like a BD and not like a Sennheiser...Thank you!

[@Apenoot696]

Beyerdynamic is a staple in the professional audio world, so they're not interesting to the more snobbish part of the audiophile community. Gotta be exclusive! That's also why some of them are against EQ, it kills the need to keep buying new stuff and it shits on their 'this cable adds a touch of bass' crap. I'm sure Beyer knows all about audiophile elitism and has learned a long time ago to ignore them.

[@reasons4171]

He is right though. It is objectively a bright headphone, barely tolerable. The spaciousness of the sound is great, but that’s only because it’s too bright.. I don’t think he is dunking on Breyerdynamic just because… I think we just want them to release something better

[@oktober-r8i]

@@reasons4171 Barely bearable...for YOU and HIM and OTHERS. I don't even deny that BUT there are still thousands who love and like this bright HP and don't want anything else. BD has its own fan base with its house sound. You don't have to love/like it, but you have to accept and respect it. For example, I can't do anything with the sound of Sennheiser. I don't go and tell Sennheiser to please change their HD 600 because its sound signature doesn't suit my ears. I find that presumptuous. Joshua Valour also had to endure a lecture in the comments after his video about the DT1990 pro. Oh yes, DMS makes BD bad. All the comments about tinnitus, hearing damage or hearing loss are aimed at that. So you want BD to come out with something "better"? Why this arrogance, according to the motto: We are "right" and everyone else who likes it is "wrong", so we have to "help" them to find the "right" tuning. It's not about "better" or "right", it's about "different". And if you can't stand/like/love this "different" sound then you just look somewhere else. It is and remains a matter of taste.

[@Apenoot696]

@@reasons4171 it's bright compared to the majority of other headphones, but it's not 'objectively' barely tolerable. That's his and your OPINION and SUBJECTIVE. I've been repeating in the comments here for a while now and it's what the guy I responded to also says... I think it's very tolerable and I like the Beyer sound a lot (based on the two I have) and so do MANY others. Even DMS liked the mk1's in the past, but over time his hearing apparently got significantly altered by magical unicorns and now he pretends they're torture devices. He doesn't want Beyer to do 'better', he's been telling them THEY WRONG!! A company with almost a century of experience... He wants them to become a copy of companies with a sound signature he prefers and I also suspect he just wants to be edgy. He also seemed very bitter in the video but we're landing in speculation land now. One thing is for sure though. If a reviewer can't fathom that people have different tastes and preferences and presents their own opinion as infallible truth (especially if that opinion is 180° from a few years ago...) then they probably aren't a very good reviewer.

[@oktober-r8i]

@@reasons4171 How about just accepting and respecting a sound signature that doesn't match your preferences. I'm now wondering what's so difficult about it. BD(especially the 1990pro) has a fan base out there, whether you like it or not. Joshua Valour also had to endure a small shitstorm when it came to the 1990 pro and whether it would still be worth it in 2024. There is a difference between saying "It's bad for me" and "it's bad". Articulating criticism correctly is also an art and not spitting it out as if it were a law. I can't stand up and present something to the general public as a fact that another part doesn't feel that way at all. That borders on a certain arrogance. It's not about "better" or "we want to put BD on the right track". It's about "different" and a lot of people here can't handle that in their supposed omnipotence.

[@Cooker98]

About NS10, when googles soundandsound has a very good review released in 2008. I had good experience with it and can say yeah the magic wasn't in the brightness, in-fact many placed a tissue on the tweeter to smooth the harshness. It has a very dry, unforgiving and fast sound+ despite having almost zero sub. freq.s when carrying the mix to a bigger monitoring system, adjustment in lower freq. elements usually needing minimal tweeking. So mixes done with these would translate well on any consumer level product. By the way; I have the DT 900 Pro X and recommend it. While wished sometimes it had a bit more detail to it (I trust my HD 400 more when I need more detail), that sharpness on the DT1990 MK2 doesn't look good considering it will probably be much more expensive.

[@hartyewh1]

I expect DMS could notably improve the treble with a day or two's work on the headphone which makes this a bewildering result.

[@MrSmitheroons]

I wonder if people learn to ignore/tolerate all the high end intensity. How I listen can *almost* redeem any FR curve, but it's still effort, and IMO not having to make that effort makes the headphone/EQ easier to use and more relaxing to use. More of my focus is left for the content if I'm not fighting the gear to listen to what sounds like a "normal" sound presentation. And if people are lucky most of what they listen to doesn't have a ton of energy in those frequencies... But for gaming I'm concerned for all the gameplay noises that probably would have a lot of high treble... Hmmmm. And if you could have a headphone without excessive peaks in any FR, that's just a more versatile headphone. I am truly sad they seem to have such a tanky build that I want, and convenient/affordable/user-serviceable replacement parts that I super want (!!!!!) (Genuinely awesome of them to do this!! Props to Beyerdynamic!!), with a FR I *don't* want.

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

Your brains ability to cope with trauma and discomfort is immense.

[@TheJohnniegolden]

You seem to know what you are talking about Sir. You also seem to only base your words on the personal measurements using the equipment that you own. Your understanding of "science" and "measurements" is limited to the accuracy of your likely limited equipment and your very over-trusted eardrums. Do you consider yourself the godly authority of audiobiologicalreference? I should certainly hope not. Viewers beware: Just like any comely talker or suave orator may speak well on a subject very matter-of-factly, doesn't mean your trust is owed. Buyer beware and use your own brain. Use your own ears. Audio and it's industry are wonderfully subjective. My room/eardrums/tastes/guitar tone will never be the same as any other human's will. But I still love my Beyer DT1990Pros. Best headphone investment ever made in my subjective experience.

[@TonkyTronicus]

A Beyerdynamic x DMS collab would sell like the SA6 Ultra.

[@NoHairMan]

Please Beyer, I really want to like your headphones! Stop this treble madness, I beg of you ;-; Thanks for the honest review.

[@oktober-r8i]

So you can buy another one. Why should they change their soundsignature? There are many who have no problems with their highs. So why?

[@NoHairMan]

@oktober-r8i maybe because there are many who have problems with their extremely coloured signature? I feel like you've kinda answered your question yourself.

[@tweed0929]

@@NoHairMan yet people have no problems byuing Fiio FT1 or Meze 99 Neo and Classics with their extremely coloured signature. By listening to elevated bass, they lose their hearing and after 5 years of punching their eardrums with POWAH OF DA BASS they write crying pamphlets "I have lost my hearing and all I hear now is constant tinnitus". Go figure...

[@NoHairMan]

@@tweed0929 it's not the bass that's damaging your hearing, it's the dB you're listening at. It's not the fault of the headphone or its FR. Also why bring up other colored headphones? I don't get what point you're trying to make sorry. Edit: typo

[@tweed0929]

@@NoHairMan maybe you're not aware yet of what kind of trickery the famous Harman curve is doing to one's hearing, but that is fine. Look: cans adhering to Harman curve have scooped mids. Bass-head cans have extremely scooped mids - even more so than in Harman-ish cans. I will set aside that this is generally bad taste this time and will focus on psychoacoustic effect from now on. When our brain senses that mids are scooped, we want to crank up the volume because all the "life" and "soul" of the music is there: guitars, drums, vocals, cellos, altos, wind instruments, etc. Remember, bass is already elevated. And when we crank up the volume knob, elevated bass shelf starts pounding our eardrums with enormous force. The volume scale is not linear but a logarithmic one. So every significant volume rise results not in percents of previous setting, but double of what you had before. As low frequencies have pretty significant penetrating power, they propagate farther and hit harder with all the sound pressure they carry. This results into significant troubles long-term and may result into hearing loss. You don't notice that at first, cause everyone hates treble frequencies and LOVES bass. Herein lies the danger of bass-heavy cans: you don't notice when the sound level crosses the dangerous line.

[@scanspeak00]

Very easy to EQ with a passive filter then it's superb.

[@juanmillaruelo7647]

Would like the "EQed" assessment.

[@rudlzavedno7279]

Please, please review Meze 105 AER. I'd love to hear how it compares to HD600/650, Sundara, edition XS.

[@thelastrhino2581]

Ah, so this doesn't change everything.

[@PaulsLittleRoom]

The problem here, is you are saying it is a bad headphone, based on your measurements, but not telling us what types of music you listen to.

[@Mishael_Agyei-Boamah]

I listened to this with every genre imaginable except most Metal at CANJAM Dallas and they're terrible. DMS was holding back on how bad they're. Tin can headphones

[@foldspacenavigator6011]

That is one of the things I so appreciate about some of the best hi-fi reviewers that are not in the headphone centric space. They disclose the music they use for reviews and some also share on their genre groove favorites. Some even share their playlists. I have experienced that this can help better inform me as to what I might audition or purchase.

[@renerebe]

maybe made for old folks?

[@KristianDowling]

The answer in this segment: Neumann NDH-30

[@MechFrankaTLieu]

well , good old Beyer treble , loads of them , and not consistent ... Hmmm ... well all I can say is I will stick with the 880 PRO and the 880 600 ohm , and yeah the 900 PRO-X too

[@1337wafflezz]

Wow. pfft what’s so weird is that the solution was so simple from the start. The OG 990 Pro peakiness would be subdued with worn in pads and filter mods like toilet paper or something in the cups.

[@aleksandrpotylko]

Because it is hard to make good sound stage and quality when headphones are about linear. 650 is a rear masterpiece. Others like Beyerdynamic can compete only by boosting highs

[@ilpreterosso]

Try 1990 mk1 with base shelf: 95hz, 2.5db, Q=0.7; 220hz, -3.5db, Q=0.6; 1.25khz, 2db, Q=1; 2khz, -2db, Q=2; 5.5khz, -3.5db, Q=5; 8khz, -6db, Q=4; Treble shelf: 9.5khz, -3.5db, Q=0.7;

[@ilpreterosso]

ideally with Dekoni Elite Velours Earpads

[@frankhu8692]

Really hope you guys will sell 490pro one day😭

[@killerbsting1621]

Mkii is amazing. Why do you say you love the mk1 but dont like these?? Im very confused

[@DMS3TV]

I addressed that in the video

[@killerbsting1621]

​@DMS3TV You also said they still better than the mk1s lol...graphs are not everything

[@DMS3TV]

@@killerbsting1621 the mk1 wasn't good. When I favored it I hadn't heard nearly as many headphones. Hindsight is 20/20.

[@killerbsting1621]

@DMS3TV Thank you for clearing that up! What do you think about the 1990s for strictly gaming?

[@Apenoot696]

The mk1's are very highly regarded, made by an equally highly regarded manufacturer. I would personally ignore anything a guy who went over to Beyer reps to 'inform' them they don't know what they're doing says, but you do you ;) To answer your question for him: yes they are very good for audio cues and I have zero issues with directionality in gaming.

[@informedchoice2249]

Somebody I watch consistently mentions the fact that the nine nineties and the 1990s require worn and softened ear pads before they sound as they should because once this once the ear pads have softened and worn in they're much more of a neutral sound I don't know if you've done a test in that scenario but it'd be interesting to see if your results match the other reviewer that I've watched.

[@studynowPH]

I think the better question is....DMS with mustache better???

[@pulpe7187]

Comment à l'heure de fiio ft1 etc est il possible de faire des aigus aussi tranchant ? Je suis vraiment circonspect.

[@znoozaros]

I love the dt 900 pro x for fps gaming. That's the only thing I use it for

[@HoveKB]

But I like treble lol

[@DMS3TV]

There's a ton of treble focused headphones that are well tuned and not a spikey mess 😄

[@HoveKB]

@@DMS3TVany specific recommendation? My buddies are trying to steer me towards the Arya Organic. I’m using the FiiO K9 Pro ESS.

[@DMS3TV]

@@HoveKB Your friends are steering you in a good direction. Arya organic is a great headphone for people who want some extra treble.

[@marcosvictor4935]

So the dt880 pro continues to be the best Beyer?

[@AliArghavan]

Too bright. DT 900 Pro X is the best Beyer to my ears.

[@bstar777777]

I prefer the dt770, but it's going to be subjective

[@KanyeWestFan69]

how the hell is dt900 less bright than dt880 ​@@AliArghavan

[@KostooR]

Indeed the DT880 Pro are pretty great. The DT880 (without "Pro") is a different headphone. Sometimes their nomenclature is so confusing. I used to have the DT880 Chrome Limited Edition and they were so bad (dark, bloated bass etc.) and the DT880 Pro sound nothing like them. They sound more like the HD600 or the HD560S.

[@Mishael_Agyei-Boamah]

​@@AliArghavanlol what?

[@thinkbeforeyoupost9766]

Saved me a lot of money was about to pull the trigger and purchase the 1990 mk2 before watching your review

[@artureff3046]

And I will after.....they use poor amps, with Leben 600 they will be great.

[@KamilsView]

Mate, it's headphones (a pair), not a headphone. Unless you mean the left headphone and the right headphone, which together consitute a pair of headphones. Please, get it right next time.

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

@@KamilsView your videos are repugnant

[@One-Two_swift-kickbox]

You're pretty angry for someone named Kamila

[@KamilsView]

@@One-Two_swift-kickbox I'm not angry - just exasperated by the lack of basic knowledge by "the experts". And my name is Kamil.

[@Togoths]

Ur channel content is slop trite. U provide no use to this world.

[@KamilsView]

@Togoths 🙂Thank you.

[@SireEvalish]

What is this stache?

[@NCR_trooper-69]

Love the Mustache!

[@gutaninblanco]

how that compare to neumann ndh30 ?

[@oktober-r8i]

It's always better to do it yourself, with your own ears and preferences, than to ask someone else. I'll never understand that.

[@gutaninblanco]

@oktober-r8i of course but is called gathering information, if you ask 10 people you got some knowledge

[@oktober-r8i]

@@gutaninblanco And yet you still can't avoid hearing it yourself when five people say they are better and five say they are worse.😉

[@reckulurn3038]

​@oktober-r8i a lot of people don't have $1300 to buy both headphones and do their own comparison. Nothing wrong asking for advice and trying to do research before spending that kind of money.

[@oktober-r8i]

@@reckulurn3038 You don't have to buy them straight away. You can have both sent to you, test them for a few days and then send back the one you don't like, or both.

[@tweed0929]

Missed opportunity to write "Subscribe))))" at the end of the video :)

[@RX-rd4sc]

Please review sony mdr z1r and denon d7200

[@vcavallo9213]

Not everyone has delicate 20 year old ears or likes their music on the muffled side. These are studio cans that tell the truth. Disappointed that there's a dip around 2k 3k. That's a departure from Harman.

[@DMS3TV]

These are definitely not studio cans. Things that are "bright" still have notably less treble than these.

[@emeerhakeem9549]

ayy yo you moustache gang now? looks good man ngl

[@DMS3TV]

Figured I would give it a try 😄 I was about 5-days in when I filmed this vid (and my next vid), hoping it'll fill out after 3-4 weeks.

[@metal571]

@@DMS3TV 🥵

[@stuartgreenaway8999]

Are you joining the Village People?

[@jacobs687]

900 pro x still the king

[@One-Two_swift-kickbox]

Are you living the Dirk Diggler lifestyle now with that moustache?

[@ZandoNoid]

Well let's be honest, it's a little bit of a theme going on with beyer making a more expensive, worse sounding headphone than what they made several years ago AND was cheaper.

[@jamesstevens968]

@ZandoNoid how do you know if it sounds bad you cant go by what dms saids you might love it beyerdynamic they been around for decades and they fixed the treble problem and im currently using the mmx 330 semi open back for gaming and there good i want to try the beyerdynamic dt 1770 pro mk2 because there more premium and I heard they have awesome bass hits hard and that's what you want for gaming movies makes it fun you don't want nothing boring stay safe and happy gaming to all

[@Mishael_Agyei-Boamah]

@@jamesstevens968 I have actually heard these new Beyerdynamic headphones at CANJAM Dallas... DMS was even holding back... they're treble death that don't have any redeeming sonic qualities

[@timpecker2527]

@jamesstevens968 how do you he hasn't head it? This is despite.

[@timpecker2527]

@@jamesstevens968 please accept that beyer makes subpar quality products and touch grass.

[@imaqt3.14]

Nice Christopher Ward watch

[@LaidbackSounds]

I make music and mix music, and even for us in the studio beyer is too bright in general ...

[@ConsecDesign]

my first time using beyers was in a recording studio in the early 2000s and they hurt my ears so bad i started bringing my own headphones to sessions. they truly make some baffling tuning decsions.

[@Elrics_Allenn]

1999, bizzare summer...

[@trancephile2412]

i had original Dt990 25ohm , and it sounds so bright that i couldn't listen even for short times , so sold it and bought Custom one pro plus and they sound dull 🤕 i don't recommend beyer to anyone , i think from bench results you can see HD490s sounds Balancing , so i'll recommend them instead

[@oktober-r8i]

Why did you buy the Custom One Pro Plus if it sounded dull? I don't have to understand that.😄

[@trancephile2412]

@@oktober-r8i honestly i ordered it online and there was no place to test it before buy , i just read reviews and reviews are actually not exactly the same as testing headphones physically .

[@VredesbyrdNoir]

Maybe they're good for hearing distant footsteps in games? Lol.

[@Ryu_Yin]

"Blame most of the bad mixes in the world on Beyerdynamic Headphones". Now THAT is funny!

[@Apenoot696]

That remark is a smokescreen to cover the fact that he's just a random dude whose opinion is worth nothing compared to the many sound engineers and professionals who happily work with Beyerdynamics.

[@cargath]

I will never understand how mixing something on inaccurate equipment is supposed to help. If you would create a mix that sounds good on the DT1990, wouldn't it sound dark und muffled on other headphones? There is an argument to be made for mixing on the average equipment of your audience, which might coincidentally be bad. But "if it sounds good on bad equipment it's going to sound good anywhere" is probably an urban legend.

[@Mishael_Agyei-Boamah]

People seem not to grasp this obvious common sense conclusion

[@clickbaitpro]

lol. You just can't mix in midiocre equipment, you just can't? It'll always sound very bad everywhere. You can't eq the tracks properly, can't compress them properly and can't master them, there's a reason people invest in expensive stuff in the studios. Sennheiser HD 650 is really bad for anything which has bass and energy like EDM, Hip Hop, RnB, DrumnBass etc. DMS have no clue how important brightness is to pinpoint the mistakes and fix them though these days use of correction software is very common but the reference curve is still bright.

[@damon2755]

DT 1990 and the whole DT lineup have always been made as tools for pro use, they are never meant for music enjoyment primarily.... an audiophile's perspective is simple not fair to this headphone. get an experienced music producer or audio engineer to do the review for the pro tools is more proper and unbiased. Beyer is known for making trustworthy pro products in the industry and it is a really good thing.

[@Mishael_Agyei-Boamah]

Tools for music production shouldn't have excess treble so much that you end up over cutting upper mids and treble. Please be serious

[@damon2755]

@ are you an experienced producer/audio engineer? This is exactly why having their perspectives are important. Pros are after different things for a headphone. We are all biased as a consumer as we think we know the best. I trust In The Mix’s review as he has years of experience in mixing and mastering. He also did music work for artists. A professional’s review on professional tools is definitely more proper and accurate.

[@KostooR]

Pro users usually stick to the good old DT770 Pro or Sony MDR-7506, for open they usually use the Sennheiser HD600. They are not easily convinced of switching to anything new, that involves a degree of uncertainty. As DMS stated consistency is a valued feature in professional applications.

[@taaviv4185]

@@KostooR I know that many pro's successfully use MDR-7506, but imo these Sony's have even hotter treble than Beyers. One reason why harsh sounding headphones can be useful when mixing a song, is that they accentuate sound and bad frequencies. With headphones like the Sennheiser HD-490 it can be hard to pinpoint the problematic area as these make everything sound polite.

[@damon2755]

⁠@@KostooR again. General perceptions. Who told you pros would use these 3? Google? Or you actually visited a studio? Btw. Hd 600 is made by Senheiser Consumers for music enjoyment 😂 pros might use it for mixing part of the track but it doesn’t mean they only use 600 for everything. Pros perspectives matter in pro tools. And we rarely see any. That’s my point.

[@KamilsView]

Otherwise, great review.

[@Lucaat]

Looks great! airy! I need to give these a shot.

[@BreathOfDust]

Did you watch the review?

[@dylon4906]

yep, it sounds great ​@@BreathOfDust

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

Beyer is so bad that people have to troll in the comments.

[@dylon4906]

@@En_Joshi-Godrez I like how it's unfathomable to most of the people in this comment section that some people actually do like treble and would find these enjoyable. Maybe grow a brain instead of blindly swallowing every opinion you hear from an influencer

[@tednicholson9225]

​@@dylon4906 it's called purchase addiction. They defend the 1990 because for most who buy it, it's a proportionally large investment as most people who rep it are no audio influencers.

[@giedmich]

I have been a fan of baeyrs for many ears, bus seriously do they tune their headphones for people with hearing disability? It is not irony or insult, but i honestly think this is the case.

[@Lunaq]

Some people dont mind more treble believe it or not.

[@oktober-r8i]

@@Lunaq Do you really think they'll understand that one day? I'm slowly but surely beginning to doubt it😄

[@Togoths]

Both of you just proved who the disabled ones are...

[@artureff3046]

Beyers like good source (E.g. Luxman).....

[@h-dawg6462]

Beyer miss the mark a lot of the time and i won't bother with them anymore. Bought the 770 32ohm and the tygr300 which are both meh! I also have the 880pro which is sort of ok..... but easily over-shadowed by many other headphones i own! Anyway, thanks for the review Ron Jeremy Jr. !! 😁

[@soulfulfool]

best is 880 600ohm that sucker stay with me forever, wonderful headphones on tubes

[@retrofizz727]

​@@soulfulfool isn't it like crazy hard to drive the 600ohm 880?

[@oktober-r8i]

Great, you blame BD for having a sound signature that you don't like and that doesn't suit you, but you bought it anyway. I don't have to understand that.

[@h-dawg6462]

@@oktober-r8i how else is anyone supposed to hear them until physically you try them? understand that?!

[@oktober-r8i]

@@h-dawg6462 I understand that. But if I don't like it, I would send ithem back. Missed doing this?

[@ius1023]

OMG Está en español!!! 🤯🤯🤯🤯

[@craigjoe8691]

TLDW: friends don't let friends use DT anything. There's much better options in any of the price brackets where they reside.

[@flame.8308]

Yeah if they really want beyer tygr 300r or mayyyybe dt880 600 ohm

[@tseivan3624]

I thought that was mr beast in the thumbnail

[@Mr.Deeds.]

One of the world's top DJ (Ben Böhmer) uses the DT 1990 PRO... enough said. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKe1mYh-ibuSbs0

[@Mishael_Agyei-Boamah]

Well DJs are deaf

[@Apenoot696]

So they use headphones that help to bring out stuff in mixes, almost as if they are good at the thing they were made to do! And it's not just DJ's that use them but sound professionals the world over. Go back to your Beats mr. Hyperacusis.

[@AnotherWhoHitTheDust]

700 pro x sound way better if thats true

[@TheJediJoker]

I'm begging you: *please* stop mispronouncing "Beyer." It should sound like the English word "buyer," *not* "bayer."