BTS solo promotions: favoritism or proper strategy? (REACTION)

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DT Parker

DT Parker

Күн бұрын

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@cherylloper7320
@cherylloper7320 Жыл бұрын
As an older BTS fan, thank you for reacting to this explanation! It was so on point!!! I do realize there is a much younger generation of fans that are all about the numbers! I admire the awards and their global success, but I'm here for the feel goods from their music and performances! Your point about "the right amount of fan" hits the nail on the head! We are all diverse people and we need to respect each member for being individually diverse. I've always been gob smacked seeing all that talent combined! GREAT REACTION!!!💜💜💜💜💜
@nikaywright
@nikaywright Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@paulagrave9516
@paulagrave9516 Жыл бұрын
Strategy of course. Each one has different type of listeners even inside of the fandom.
@Soysandylu
@Soysandylu Жыл бұрын
Hay Armys que no aceptan que ya crecieron, deben dejarlos experimentar ya que es algo que ellos querían hacer hace tanto tiempo libertad en sus proyectos, ya vendrá nuevamente BTS para regalarnos esas canciones que también amamos, ahora hay que disfrutar esta etapa de madurez, la música es para disfrutar no para estar pendientes en números, ellos nos están regalando su escencia!! 😊💜🫶🫰
@conniespurlock5870
@conniespurlock5870 Жыл бұрын
BINGO DT! Every member is special in their own way, their own style of music aside from being BTS. Whenever each member promotes an album or single I always pre-order them whether it`s 1 02 or 3 different styles. It`s my way of supporting them and letting them know I appreciate them for who they are and their artistry. They still have so much to give us and it`s only fair we give them the space to mature and grow as adults as well as artists. I can only wish each and every one of them health, happiness and blessings in whatever they do in their lives.
@moonchildx389
@moonchildx389 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying that the solo projects are separate from BTS's work! I see this come up so much with Jungkook lately. They say the music JK has been putting out isn't him or that it's not the message BTS has put out. That annoys me so much because it feels like a lot of fans want to keep the guys in this box which is so unfair because they deserve to have the liberty to express themselves. BTS is made up of 7 members so it's obvious they have to compromise when it comes to songs and not everyone's ideas will be put in. I remember on Station head someone told Taehyung they wished he had done a more upbeat song and his response was 'wait for 2025 when bts comes back' and I thought that was the perfect response. Fans really need to learn to appreciate their individuality and stop being so selfish. BTS will always be BTS so just let the guys have a chance to do their own thing. Sorry for going on a little rant lol this has been annoying me since this has been a reoccurring discourse on twitter and reddit.
@teasersmuchee
@teasersmuchee 9 ай бұрын
Omg I am happy that you did this video. People faIL TO REALIZE THAT THESE GUYS GO UNDER THE GROUP BTS BUT THEY ARE INDIVIDUALS FIRST, THEY STAY TRUE TO THEMSELVES. THEIR MUSIC IS THEIR PASSION IT IS WHY THEY AGREE TO DO THEIR THING OUTSIDE BTS. RESPECT THEM FOR THAT. THEY ARE ALL TOTALLY AWESOME IN THEIR OWN WAY AND MOST OF ALL VERY HUMBLE AND THEIR TOGETHERNESS IS SO ADMIRABLE.
@krystynawasilewska1209
@krystynawasilewska1209 Жыл бұрын
Dla mnie najbardziej oryginalna i ciekawa jest promocja V.... On wiedział, że muzyka którą zaproponował nie jest tak popularna jak pop, ale to co zrobił to mistrzostwo😁 jego występy na żywo to coś wspaniałego, na żywo brzmi lepiej niż z płyty😁🙂 Bts to zdolni ludzie, każdy z chłopaków zrobił dobrą robotę...
@ewastawarska6351
@ewastawarska6351 Жыл бұрын
Zgoda,tylko dlaczego tylko jeden z nich jest promowany a inni są pomijani?O Taehyungu nie mówi się,bo BigHit oficjalnie go hejtuje. Hybe amerykańskie i koreanskie wydają masę pieniędzy na promocję dwoch członków BTS.
@krystynawasilewska1209
@krystynawasilewska1209 Жыл бұрын
@@ewastawarska6351 powiem Ci tak... Nie chcę nikogo hejtować tu, bo mogłabym napisać dużo...(wiele razy o tym pisałam na innych stronkach) Oczywiście niektórzy są bardzo.... Ale to bardzo faworyzowani!! I wiemy o kim mówimy,... To że Tae jest przez firmę hejtowany, saborowany(w różny sposób) to też wiemy a Ci co zaprzeczają są jego przeciwnikami.. Nie umnieszam wszystkim chłopakom talentu...
@silvanapeixoto1862
@silvanapeixoto1862 Жыл бұрын
O Álbum do V está impecável.
@krystynawasilewska1209
@krystynawasilewska1209 Жыл бұрын
@@ewastawarska6351 Ewa myślimy tak samo...
@Forever-dw1ng
@Forever-dw1ng Жыл бұрын
​@@ewastawarska6351this is the problem with army ,all of them where promoted with different strategies,jhope was on many shows he went to lallopoloza and was a headliner there,he threw a listening party with many famous celebs and had a coloboration with jcole which is the most expensive Collab than all members Collab,Rm promoted on this one show and mentioned that he did not want to be on many shows,v as u say has been on a lot of k shows including the ones Jimin did and also promoted in Japan,Jimin has a had a lot of promotional areas including the Jimmy Fallon show,suga was on a lot of k shows and in the us also he released his documentary on Disney plus,jin was only on kshows bcz he had to get ready for the military,and here u are worried Abt jks promotion which was in the us and UK with lyk 3min interviews while others were on interviews that were 1hr or more, honestly l understand u have favourites but u should not try to force the members to have the same promotions others enjoy talk shows and others don't
@mawbast1
@mawbast1 Жыл бұрын
When J Hope was on the show with Suga he said HE was the one that didn’t want to make a physical album of Jack in the Box and Suga basically did an I told you so, Army wants stuff to collect.
@nikaywright
@nikaywright Жыл бұрын
They won't listen 😂😂
@ryioelaine
@ryioelaine Жыл бұрын
Reading the comments from most solo stans in this thread just make me want to say boooo freakin’ hoooo. 😅
@jhlee8121
@jhlee8121 Жыл бұрын
bts는 진정한 아티스트입니다! 각자 자신만의 스타일과 음악성이 있습니다 비교하는거 자체가 어불성설. 그중 나의 음악 취향은 태형💜 bts🫅
@ジジ-v1x
@ジジ-v1x Жыл бұрын
様々なMVがありますが、私の一番のお気に入りはティヒョンです。ティヒョンなら壮大な曲やポップな曲でも歌いこなせますが、あえて、R&Bの曲調に挑戦し私達にも聞かせたいと思う心が届いたように思います。私はティヒョンの声に惹かれました。また、奥深い愛情、優しさなもふれました。言葉巧みに話をする人もいますが、私は言葉少なく奥深い愛情が見られるVがますます好きになりました。
@sony67100
@sony67100 Жыл бұрын
She is absolutely right, and also I love how RM has introduced us incredible artists from Korea that I would have never discovered if it was not because of him, because they are not main streamers but they are soooo good!
@olgasantos6175
@olgasantos6175 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic explanation, it was missing for many, All the boys have done great jobs They are all masterpieces, in their personal style And as you say, there are 7 incredible and authentic ARTISTS I have also seen horrible comments, saying that they would not support them because they were sabotaging each other.It's ridiculous, because they have always supported each other and we see it in the documentaries and programs in which who have been present, keeping their mouths shut!!I am totally unconditional of BTS and totally a fan of the 7 Individual, I have a record for each day of the week, I love each one of them!!! Greetings from Spanish army mom 💜🫶
@PeaceNLoveSoCal
@PeaceNLoveSoCal Жыл бұрын
Well said DT. The voice of sanity. I love the individuality of the solo projects and promotional events. I feel like I’m getting to know each member better 💜
@НатальяМитряева-т6о
@НатальяМитряева-т6о Жыл бұрын
Почитав комментарии под вашим видео сделала для себя вывод: Не пытайся просить осла двигаться вперёд, ведь по природе своей он осёл (упрямый). Так и ваши комментаторы, хоть вы и показали замечательное видео с разбором всех сольных проектов ребят, концепцию которых они сами хотели донести до арми, так вот, бесполезное это занятие, доказывать "фанатикам", что нет никакого ущемления компанией кого либо из мемберов. Таким людям хочется видеть в одном из ребят жертву, которую все страются обидеть и которую надо защищать, жалеть, оберегать. Хочется спросить таких фанатов: Уважаемые, а вы не хотите узнать у самого мембера, нужна ли ему ваша фанатичная жалость, которая только унижает артиста. Каждый из мемберов это сформировавшаяся личность, причем личность с большой буквы. Каждый попытался донести до нас свою индивидуальность. Кому-то понравилось, кому-то нет. И это нормально. Мы люди и вкусы у нас разные. И это должны научиться принимать те, кто хочет заставить любить лишь их фаворита
@nikaywright
@nikaywright Жыл бұрын
I love your comment @user-jy7ss2it5g
@nettie623
@nettie623 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on this, as usual you are on point and saying what so many of us feel. I wish more reactors would so it can be seen by as many as possible simply because this topic has been discussed and has gotten so out of control to the point of being ridiculous. The members have each said they are in control of the type of music and the direction for it, so I don’t understand why so many are going overboard with threats, crazy theories, protest trucks, etc. I love her vids because she’s not biased and uses facts to back up what she’s saying, now we just need video or a way to weed out the stupid cringey interview questions.
@Me-jk2sq
@Me-jk2sq Жыл бұрын
So many solo stans in this space💀
@charestriart
@charestriart Жыл бұрын
RM doesn't want to be interviewed by shallow MC hahahahhahahahha. how savage of him. i luv it
@peacheditsz
@peacheditsz Жыл бұрын
Understandable
@altarehkugler4675
@altarehkugler4675 Жыл бұрын
YES!!! Just Love💜Equally✌
@Kodamakitty
@Kodamakitty 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for reacting to this and boosting the signal of both the BTS members and Boracity Magazine. She's been called ARMY's reporter and I totally agree. She calls out the industry and keeps us honest. Also, love your shirt - PH represent! ^_^
@thefff6688
@thefff6688 Жыл бұрын
i will always trust bts and bts only... all the members always respectfully mention how they always thanks to the staff and company.. i dont trust anything outside that.. i will always support all the members.. and i will never be immatured ppl who want bts to do like what they want. let them be! u will miss them for 2 years😢
@Forever-dw1ng
@Forever-dw1ng Жыл бұрын
Don worry jin will be here soon
@nikaywright
@nikaywright Жыл бұрын
Yes we must
@forg_tful.
@forg_tful. Жыл бұрын
oh, most armys understand all of the differences and shift in numbers perfectly. solo stans are the ones who don't.
@elsaholdiem8616
@elsaholdiem8616 Жыл бұрын
Attention DTPARKER! I love you tshirt with the Philippine flag! I am a very nationalistic Filipino. LOVE YOU FOR THAT!❤
@Vikta-k1d
@Vikta-k1d Жыл бұрын
Привет с любовью и уважением из России!!! Спасибо Вам большое за видео и прекрасные слова,полностью согласна-столько неприятных коментариев в сторону каждого мембера! Какая-то непонятная и даже глупая «ревность»,а местами враждебная перепалка между АРМИ….. Парни показали всю свою индивидуальность и действительно,как сказал Ким Намджун-верьте в НАС!!! DT Parker СПАСИБО ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤!!!!!!!
@helenismael1440
@helenismael1440 Жыл бұрын
Yes DT i agree its not the number or popularity all BTS member want to show each there talent who they are there song to show us or army what they are and what they want as a singer there kind of music there is no competition there is no counting of sale there is no jealousy who is popular all they want is to give army or not army the good music of there own so thank you for the good words so the fan realize there are no competion between the member of BTS all they want to prove there self as individual they love army or fans all over the world more power toyour channel thank you
@cassaundra8161
@cassaundra8161 Жыл бұрын
BTS is that rare group where all the members could have successful solo careers. Very different but successful! Great reaction. Boracity has done amazing videos.
@moongoddessjikook
@moongoddessjikook Жыл бұрын
I don't think that some fans understand what kind of power BTS have. Remember that they own shares in HYBE and practically built the new HYBE buildings with their earnings/revenues. Remember that some members said that even if they don't gel with certain BTS songs, they give it their all for the group. Each member followed their preferred genre of music for their solo and look at the variety that we got. ARMY's also have their preferences in music and biases. Even countries have genres of music that will do better in their domestic charts. Just because your biases didn't do well doesn't mean that they were overlooked. Unfortunately their style didn't work with some fans, or some fans just didn't bother unless it was their favourite. The renewed contracts was a perfect smash in the face to doubters and people/shippers who spread hate on other members if their favs don't do well.
@Ni-na9
@Ni-na9 Жыл бұрын
А сколько% акций у мемберов? Достаточно или этого количества, чтобы на что-то повлиять? И если мы говорим про разное продвижение, мы не жалуемся на музыкальные жанры. Жанры каждый выбирал себе сам. Мы говорим про продвижение на радио, рекламу, ремиксы, участие в шоу, интервью и защиту интересов каждого мембера.
@kaseykalnasy7359
@kaseykalnasy7359 Жыл бұрын
Each BTS member showed their individual artistry in every way. I loved the differences and variety!!!! Criticism about what and how they showed their artistry is pointless.
@greymouse718
@greymouse718 Жыл бұрын
Each BTS member showed THEIR artistry! But JK showed the artistry of American producers! We didn''t see what he himself want to express!
@christinafreeburn1888
@christinafreeburn1888 Жыл бұрын
@@greymouse718 Hopefully there will be some of his own work on his album. ☺
@laylascott6096
@laylascott6096 Жыл бұрын
@@greymouse718I agree. He’s so much better than that generic pop, and don’t get me started on the atrocity that is Jack Harlow’s bars in 3d. Yikes
@jazzyjamster25
@jazzyjamster25 Жыл бұрын
​@@greymouse718 neither did Tae
@nicoleloss7987
@nicoleloss7987 Жыл бұрын
Jungkook showed his artists. It doesn't matter if a artists writer their lyrics or not. It about performers.
@shadariatempleton5708
@shadariatempleton5708 Жыл бұрын
And yet ppl watched that whole video and still think 🤔 the guys were wronged but thanks for showing it though 💜💜💜
@sibirianGrl
@sibirianGrl Жыл бұрын
I will not talk about favoritism in the company; we do not have enough information to draw conclusions. but favoritism among the army is obvious, and there would be no problem, it is normal to single out a certain person for yourself. the problem is that armys hate us like solo stans because we only support one member. but in essence, we differ only from real armys (OT7) in that we are not ready to stream songs, vote and buy albums of all members, and we say this directly. but we all understand that there are very few real OT7s, I rarely see them in our solo fan communities, but I am grateful that they exist and really try to support all the members (you guys are amaizing 💜💜💜), and they are friendly and happy that we can help one of the member together.
@julianne7397
@julianne7397 Жыл бұрын
True.. it all boils down to ARMY... Honestly, I don't blame ARMY because ARMY focuses on all seven of them and don't complain... All the focus and whines come from solo stans...
@yazhisai1129
@yazhisai1129 8 ай бұрын
You know what's the highlight is ? I didn't get time to watch most of their promotional interviews at all. I just directly jumped into their songs and have been streaming them non stop, hopefully I'll find some time to watch all their interviews as well. But at the end of the day what is important is that I love all of their music, I'm really not kidding when I say I got introduced to most of the genres including hip hop only after I started listening to BTS. It wasn't appealing to me before but after listening to their music all of a sudden it became sooo much familiar. I guess that's their ART . They are unique artist creating all their music very meticulously, I hope we all can enjoy them and travel with BTS (both as a group and as soloists) for a very very long period. 🥰💜
@lilianarodriguez4976
@lilianarodriguez4976 Жыл бұрын
agree on everything, take into account that if they as a group make decisions, imagine individually they also decide what they want or not to do, these are projects to their taste and style, we are used to the same way of promoting, thanks BTS, they always teach us so much, and we must learn so much, thanks DT
@aldenourasilva2628
@aldenourasilva2628 Жыл бұрын
Não é bem assim não, pois com tantos artistas querendo colaborar com PARK JIMIN e essa empresa imunda não permite...claro, é prá não concorrer com seu favorito, que eu não direi o nome só as iniciais JK #faleitôleve!
@mae__
@mae__ Жыл бұрын
Exactly 100% everything!!! Trust them. That's all they ask us💜
@serajohn5612
@serajohn5612 Жыл бұрын
Why do I compare it? Do you think vsuga jhope is less supported? Suga and RM collaborated with the most Western singers. V has appeared in a lot of programs and entertainment shows in Japan and Korea rather than overseas marketings. Jimin appeared on TV a lot when he was on LC. Rather, JK was 0 promotion in Korea and Japan. Hive assigned a solo in the fourth quarter, which was most disadvantageous to Jungkook, and then left it unattended for two years. He wouldn't have released a solo album without a scooter that recognized his star quality. It is wrong to refer to discrimination with a video made while keeping Jung Kook in check when releasing an album at the worst time.
@janmar6259
@janmar6259 Жыл бұрын
Who is LC?
@darlenedmakaiwi6188
@darlenedmakaiwi6188 Жыл бұрын
Fans! Enjoy their talent!!! OMG!! ❤ It’s their personal favorite kind of music that they love. Just enjoy them! Fans who don’t agree do not really understand the music business. There Men now!!
@idilgok2420
@idilgok2420 Жыл бұрын
It is not right to say that V has 5 music videos and claim that this is a 'promo'. For Us is an edited version of 4 other music videos and the other music videos (except slow dancing) do not have a high budget. things that were easily pulled off, it was Taehyung who made it look rich. R&B is a music genre that appeals most to America, and this guy has no promos in America. Don't defend for the sake of defending. Both songs and music videos were released silently. Many people didn't even know when it came out. The man has no collabs at allt oo. It failed to climb the Billboard charts bc of because it conflicts with the Seven which is pop music with america promo. In addition, the company put Lavover on the Grammy nomination list as a pop album, and it will not even be able to compete in the R&B category...
@forg_tful.
@forg_tful. Жыл бұрын
the company did not necessarily put layover up as an rnb album, the academy is the one who ultimately places albums in genre categories and probably gave him the pop label because anything coming from a korean artist is k-pop to the west, no matter the language or genre. i distinctly remember a western artist being publicly pissed that their pop album wound up being placed in an rnb category by the academy because they are afro-american, so the academy separated them from white pop artists. also, stop being delusional. rnb is not america's favourite genre in any way, shape or form. it's hip hop (by specific artists) and mainstream explicit pop music like seven, 3d and whatnot. the music video strategy worked for how tae wanted to promote the songs, did you even watch the video? 4 mvs or 5 mvs, that's still A LOT. why would he have any collabs on this album with relatively short songs? we usually love when they don't do collabs anyway. all bts youtube videos get screwed by the algorithm because of the discrepancy in views of the different artists videos on hybe's channel and the fact they don't pay for ads to yt.
@lisalo9034
@lisalo9034 Жыл бұрын
His album is not rnb do you even know what is rnb Rnb songs have ad libs runs harmonisation and all but his songs are not even vocally challenging so linear
@idilgok2420
@idilgok2420 Жыл бұрын
@@lisalo9034 r u joking right 🤣 Even he introduced it as R&B while promoting album, even IU said it was R&B. Also... I know exactly what R&B is. Thanks for making me laugh. There is no requirement for R&B songs to have adlib and harmony, and there are a lot of R&B songs that do not have that way. Singularity is also an R&B song. Keep listening to American R&B songs pressed on Autotune. Not my jam.
@teasersmuchee
@teasersmuchee 9 ай бұрын
I forgot to mention that I am 75 yrs of age and I love this whole group, they are so talented and I enjoy their music so there you go lol.
@vmkoya4080
@vmkoya4080 Жыл бұрын
I agree, for me as ARMY i am along for the ride. I am enjoying each of the membera solo projects and supporting all of them. Before i even started listening to BTS i listened to many genres. So all the different sounds the guys have with their solos have been so fun for me. But when it comes to who is being sabotaged or who is being treated unfair. I ignore all that. My trust is in the guys and what they have said and what they have said many times is that they had a lot of control of their albums and their promotion. What they are doing with their music was to show another side to them and their taste in music that they can't do as BTS. They have also said to trust them. So that is what i am doing and supporting them the best i can.
@linathe7876
@linathe7876 Жыл бұрын
👌❤💜
@babyg6351
@babyg6351 Жыл бұрын
BTS members are doing solo projects to express themselves and grow personally. It's not about awards or numbers/charts, but about finding fulfillment individually. When they come back together, their unique journeys will make BTS even stronger. 💜
@cutzzndnutzz.98
@cutzzndnutzz.98 Жыл бұрын
That's it 💯✔️
@shannonbae-k4p
@shannonbae-k4p Жыл бұрын
If
@nicoleloss7987
@nicoleloss7987 Жыл бұрын
Because it is the companies job to pay for promotion so people know that artists work is coming out. Making on to charts or wining awards don't always happen.
@eileencritchley4630
@eileencritchley4630 Жыл бұрын
@@nicoleloss7987 Correct just people don't understand what it means to be in the Music industry and all the different parts that make up the whole. Also we have to remember some so called 'paid promotion's the company will not do because they are illegal or are low brow media hype tactics'
@babyg6351
@babyg6351 Жыл бұрын
The company handles the business side, promoting solo projects to the audience. But for the members, it's about personal growth. Solo projects let them express themselves freely, grow as artists, and fulfill their creative desires, adding unique flavors to their collective journey with BTS.
@Mema399
@Mema399 Жыл бұрын
I want to add something that the video didn’t highlight about jungkook is how dreamers reach a REALLY BIG audience and diverse and unique that don’t know Bts or KPOP u don’t understand how BIGGG JK is in the Middle East really I know a lot of people who don’t even know Bts know him and call him oh the World Cup guy JK and u hear seven and 3D and dreamers everywhere ,because of him in Qatar they started to host KPOP festival 💜
@alperry02
@alperry02 Жыл бұрын
That's true
@elham.jimin13
@elham.jimin13 Жыл бұрын
That cuz send him alone and bush him instead of the band
@angiesplaylist23
@angiesplaylist23 Жыл бұрын
​@elham644 bts already announced their hiatus and fifa asked for jungkook specifically
@elham.jimin13
@elham.jimin13 Жыл бұрын
@@angiesplaylist23 I am an Arab, and I attended the minister’s meeting when the announcer asked him, “Why didn’t you bring the rest of the cookies?” and the minister responded The company told us that they are in the process of enlistment. The company wanted to push him alone, and the host country is the one that chooses the artists. They wanted Shakira, but she refused, so do not speak without knowledge,
@angiesplaylist23
@angiesplaylist23 Жыл бұрын
@elham644 lol hun they never said anything about jk being pushed alone. He's the only one who could pull that performance off alone especially with an all English song. The company did no promo, the song was announced days b4, the song credits went to bts instead of jk, etc. Jk has been held back all these years as the backbone of their music. Fifa and the coordinators specifically said they went to hybe America and hybe to ask for jk. And those ministers corrected themselves since it was misconstrued
@nikaywright
@nikaywright Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, even though it will still go over some stubborn heads. There's no hate or competition in BTS ,HYBE allows them to have full control of their solos.
@Cloudmena5
@Cloudmena5 Жыл бұрын
I love them. I enjoy watching them individually Each one is very talented in their own way
@catbravo994
@catbravo994 Жыл бұрын
I am so happy for the guys. Their solos are amazing. I didn't cry and panic when they were going to do solo projects before military service. I knew they weren't breaking up. As long as they continue making solos AND BTS content I will be very happy. They are men and should be able to make whatever content they want. I support the group and I support them individually. They deserve all the best.
@nellyhernandez6975
@nellyhernandez6975 Жыл бұрын
Because they are promoting their solo projects, the way they want!!! They decide what they want and how they wanna go about it and they choose who to collab with as well!! So we need to stop that mentality! They do what they want, when they want! Period!
@pameladavis45
@pameladavis45 Жыл бұрын
That full analysis video was fantastic...DT your comments were on point! Not to be mean but some Army need to mature just like the guys are doing. Not one solo project is bad...they're individualized to each member. After seeing the solo projects their group projects are even more amazing and the group success is more understandable than ever. Only these superior level of individual artist could produce such a phenomenal group!
@AwakeningWings
@AwakeningWings Жыл бұрын
I remember Namjoon saying, that with their solo projects it would help them improve more so when they come back as a group they'll have more experiences and ideas.
@jeffsoriano2425
@jeffsoriano2425 Жыл бұрын
I agree with the video. They have their own individuality and have a say in how they will be promoted. Looking closely, they have catered to different parts of the world. Sabotage is a big word. Just curious tho why Jimin and V’s spotify numbers initially had a problem and as well as V’s Hanteo numbers.
@MINININI95
@MINININI95 Жыл бұрын
Bro you should know that : - jimin wanted more mvs for his album but his own company refused. - his own company gives him 9 days of promo for his first album debut. - his own company decided to split like crazy two versions after reaching number one on global Spotify ( according to some fans who contacted Spotify ). - his own company decided to not restock like crazy CDs after Bb new rules. - his own company was shading him on weaverse articles when he hit Bb hot 100. Before calling us solo stans ask yourself why r u defending the company + please watch Jimin got sabotaged left and right by mini space.
@ARMYnotArmy
@ARMYnotArmy Жыл бұрын
First off, the split on spotify- is spotify's doing. The company has no control over that and Jimin isn't the only one they've done it to. Yes, Spotify and BB screwed Jimin, but the only thing HYBE could have done...Would be to play by the American market ways- you know.. pay to win. Would you rather HYBE illegally pay for Jimin or any of the members to get more promotions and even to stay on number one on BB hot 100? I would think you'd have more integrity and pride in what the BTS members choose to do, and since they've never chosen to pay illegally before... why start now? Le' Gasp, you mean people lied and said spotify told them the company split the song? Even though previously they've split other BTS versions as well? Or did we all forget about the Butter remixes? The Life Goes on versions? Like... did those get erased from people's minds cause again.. spotify has been doing this crap for years. And hey, if you're new here, welcome- Sorry you didn't know, but this is the sad reality and one of many reasons ARMY stream so hard and buy hard too. Because of companies like BB and Spotify who all are getting paid under the table to do what they do best- screw people over. I remember the 'shade on weverse' article. And I remember combing through that article and looking for where the hell the shade was. The article, about a western artists. The Article that as it's subject was a western artist, highlighted that persons story and achievements. Yes, comparing them to the likes of BTS was a bit odd, and it I guess if you read it thinking or expecting the author who was paid to write about the artist would throw that artist under a bus and highlight how BTS members are more successful.... well then please do not go into writing articles for anything, really. While I agree, it was pointless and tasteless to even compare him to any BTS member, it was done with purpose, but the purpose wasn't discrediting Jimin or anyone else. It was a comparison. And from the western world... where again... people pay to win, people who have good intentions end up getting used by their labels who pay illegally behind their artists back. The company gave him as much time as they could, because of Yoongi's tour and things that were planned for that, way before Jimin was done with his album. Yoongi's tour was planned way before that. Tours have to be booked in advanced sometimes a year or more in advance. BTS has talked about this... they have to book a year ahead of time in order to get the dates they want/preferred dates. With Yoongi knowing he'd be going into service soon after, he had to plan in advance and Jimin knew this. He even said that yes, he asked about doing more MV's but the company said know because of scheduling. Jimin even said he knew they'd say no, but he figured he would ask anyway. He wasn't insulted or angry at the company for not being able to fit in more videos between he and Yoongi's slotted promotions and tour. Boracity also explained why time was short for Jimin's promotions, yet Jimin still managed to do more promotions than any of the previous members, even with that short amount of time. You're not wanting to be labeled a solo stan, but you only complain about Jimin's promotions and things. Why not complain about V and RM's delayed shipments? No? Then by all means, please excuse us for calling a spade, a spade. No one is defending HYBE, HYBE doesn't need defending. All 7 members trust BigHit and HYBE and if they didn't, they know damn well they could have walked and started their own company, but they recently resigned years ahead of time. And don't use the excuse 'they had to.' No, they really didn't have to. Stop making it sound like BTS are not able to make their own choices, stop acting like they're mindless puppets. If that's really what you think of them... you need to touch some grass.
@LittleSequoia13
@LittleSequoia13 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you, Jimin deserves so much better.
@faizasamin13
@faizasamin13 Жыл бұрын
​@@ARMYnotArmy You shouldn't call urself an ARMY of BTS. Your main priority isn't BTS but to praise their company.
@ARMYnotArmy
@ARMYnotArmy Жыл бұрын
@@faizasamin13 My main priority IS BTS, so much so, that I trust BTS and their actions, theiir words. It's solo stans and antis who come around, and say the same dumb crap as you. You who is telling me I shouldn't be calling myself ARMY JUST because I'm not raising my pitchfork at a company that BTS trusts? Because Jimin himself has said and shown he has nothing against the company ? So because I'm not a mindless drone, because I understand the world, because I'm an adult with experience of the world... I'm not allowed to call myself ARMY because I don't believe into your anti BTS and anti company rhetoric? I don't go around the internet making BTS seem incompetent of decision making, and incapable of standing up for themselves. But by all means, sweetie. You continue claiming a false narrative so long as it fits your needs.
@jazzyjamster25
@jazzyjamster25 Жыл бұрын
​@@ARMYnotArmyahhhh, I love this. I've heard people say that they can't leave because Hybe owns the rights to the music and because it's very difficult to leave a label because of slander and mistreatment. Yes it's true other people have left their own labels and been horribly mistreated, but, they left anyway for their own safety and sanity. Yes it's true they absolutely do, however, members are part owners of the company so I'm assuming they own at least in part the rights of the company and the music. I may be wrong and I am completely open to being informed on that part. Also, another pretty popular kpop group left their label but still use the name of the group. Wouldn't the company own the name? Did they have to buy the name from the company? Once again I'm not completely sure. And so what if they own the name or rights to the music. Bts Members can absolutely buy the company out, buy the rights, or, if they were actually being mistreated, sue the crap out of them, but they didn't. instead they signed for at least another 7 years.
@jessibelatupan4628
@jessibelatupan4628 Жыл бұрын
nice one DT and i love to the philippine flag in your tshirt wow im moms army in the philipippines lastly i understand everything about BTS because they are unique individual and they are all amazing and adorable and gifted. i love them all
@mariaencanacionvarela2625
@mariaencanacionvarela2625 Жыл бұрын
Estoy d acuerdo Siiiiiiiii BTS es BTS Juntos o individuales son únicos ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@alperry02
@alperry02 Жыл бұрын
Well... jimin said from his own mouth in an interview that he wanted MVs for all his songs. But he was told no by the company "that it was unreasonable". Yet we know another member wanted the same. And got it. Jimin also said from his own mouth that he wanted more time for his promotions - past 2 weeks. But we know his promotions were abreveated due to yoongi's promotions/ tour/ enlistment. These arr the facts on the ground people. We can speculate why (and ive seen some wild and frankly insulting speculations). But...these are the facts.
@Me-jk2sq
@Me-jk2sq Жыл бұрын
Have you ever heard of "budget"? You are so adamant on comparing the number Of MVs Jimin and "this other member" have. Have you ever considered the quality and production of the both memebers' MVs?🙄
@nicoleloss7987
@nicoleloss7987 Жыл бұрын
Jimin has never said that
@christinajimenez3155
@christinajimenez3155 Жыл бұрын
@@nicoleloss7987 yes he did
@jovimaguire4907
@jovimaguire4907 Жыл бұрын
Tae's MVs were sponsored NOT by HYBE. Remember the person who managed his album is not from BH. She was able to create an MV for NJ again by sponsorship. Maybe you should asked Jimin why he didn't received any sponsorship outside of BH/HYBE. Take note also on how the MVs were done. There's only 1 MV that there are other people involved. Rainy Days is Rocky the dog, Blue is just Tae, Love me again is just Tae again , only slow dancing involved other actors/dancers. For us is actually a compilation of the other MVs. All these were possible bec Tae and his crew used their brains on how to be able to create MVs by finding ways
@Jiminx2
@Jiminx2 Жыл бұрын
We know it's true and I also know people are going to attack you so bad because you mentioned Jimin, bit I want to say my friend that people who love him , knows everything what happened to him. And about these people, they never going to admit weather you give them every single proof, so I'm just enjoying his birthday celebration by the whole world and the level of Celebration is happening for Jimin made clear that the world loved Jimin. I just hope that kind of unfairness didn't happen to him again. It's so hard for me believe me, but I'm just getting over it just this time. 💜🧡
@RMe0t7
@RMe0t7 Жыл бұрын
The members totally support one another 💯 regardless of who has more promotions, the fans will always love BTS💜
@SkyeMarrrie
@SkyeMarrrie Жыл бұрын
As an ARMY, All we could do is support and love the boys in their solo projects and as a group. We have to trust and believe in them and also to Big Hit/Hybe. I don't associate with people who whines and complains too much because you're just going to give me a solo stan vibe so you obviously do no trust and love them and obviously you are not an ARMY. I had dozens of encounter with solos and antis on social media and they are nasty. Very toxic people who think they know everything but I am glad and happy that we have ARMYs like her to create such informative video essays like this She did such a wonderful job in this video and It is necessary. Some people just needs to be educated. That's all. Thank you DT for this. 💜
@spkn_hues
@spkn_hues Жыл бұрын
BoraCityMagazine is the TRUTH! She’s always so informative and insightful; she breaks it down, and tells it like it is! For any ARMY new or old that complains about promotions, BTS is not a monolith. They didn’t get to where they are by doing anything in just one way, they’ve experimented, tried new things, and grown as artists. That’s why they’re the biggest group in the world, so if that’s their approach to music, then their method of promotion is going to fit their projects. The whole “sabotage” theory is honestly laughable. Of course BigHit & HYBE would want BTS to sell as many albums as possible, that benefits them. Why would they limit any member’s project, knowing ARMY would buy it? Let’s all breathe, be rational, and know that the company, and the guys, are smart, and everything they do is intentional and well thought out WAY ahead of time. Stop complaining and let tge guys express themselves. They’ve proven thei talent for over 10 years now. Let them be artists and the recognition will come as it should…
@sukritisingh777
@sukritisingh777 Жыл бұрын
I loooooove her channel!
@roseline5684
@roseline5684 Жыл бұрын
I agree let them do o their solo album let them have their experience in making solo album we as army please support bts till end as for myself i trust bts please understand their decidion on making their solo album.
@anacristinamurillo7183
@anacristinamurillo7183 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much DT! I competely agree with you. This video you watched was on point. I do believe that the company will never, ever put in risk their relationship with their top stars, and I think that they were pretty open to hear each BTS member and support them in whatever they wanted to achieve on their own. They are at a point, were they can do whatever they want, being succesful at it, they don´t need to prove anything to anyone anymore. They have basically said it before, Jungkook and Suga, they openly talked about how they do what they want, and the company don´t say anything and support them. The guys just renewed their contracts, they would not have done that if they were not happy with Hybe and Big Hit. Still it is a business, for the company and for the guys too. They earn millions for doing what they do, and they are pretty smart, they knowi what is best for them. So don´t come to me saying poor Jimin, or poor Jin... Jin will have enough work to do when he finishes his military service. And, how many albums did Jimin sell on the first 24 hours of its debut? Not a failure, not a falilure... Case closed.
@haticeyel8396
@haticeyel8396 Жыл бұрын
Jimin suga ile katıldığı bir programda 2 milyondan fazla kopya sattığını söyledi. Peki o kopya sayısı nasıl oldu da 1 milyona düştü??????? Ve hâlâ tt yapılyor çünkü albüm stokta yok .
@Honeyanne
@Honeyanne Жыл бұрын
So Jimin wanted only 9days of promo? When he asked for MVs but the company said" it's impossible". Hanteo sales were deleted. His CDs were not re-stock even if we constantly called for Hybe. Are these OK for you and still no "poor Jimin". Come on, let's be REAL!
@chrissy8136
@chrissy8136 Жыл бұрын
Nobody is saying Jimin was a failure...like wtf lol. I don't even have an issue with only 9 days of promotion. What I do have problem with is Like Crazy single not being restocked one single time. It has not been available since a week after release. Sales affect Jimin, period. Not only monetarily but in the charts, and effectually for awards. Also, I have nothing against Jungkook, I love him to death, but he is being promoted by the company 100%, probably because of his star power. He definitely has it. His budget is undoubtedly insane compared to the other members. But I resent the fact that Like Crazy English Version was never promoted for radio play. It would have done well. It also may even had a better chance at winning an award or two because it is still not been lower than 3 on Spotify Daily Chart South Korea, ever. It goes between 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place with Jungkook being his only competition. Jimin holds the record for the most consecutive days at number 1. Like Crazy is still charting on the regular Spotify charts after 8 months. The song and the album are very popular still. Even if Jimin's purpose for LC was not to be a "hit sngle", it's the fact that Hybe never even gave it a chance. And that is where the unfair treatment comes in. We all know how songs get played on the radio, so I'm not going to say it. LC would have done well is all I'm saying. And it's stupid to say, well they could just not renew if they're unhappy. Life isn't that simple. These guys have 6 other people who love them and rely on them, not to mention millions of fans. Case closed? Are you a lawyer or just play one online?
@Honeyanne
@Honeyanne Жыл бұрын
@@chrissy8136 Nice Chrissy👍🥰 I hate hypocrite people, pretending all is well but it's very obvious what Jimin had gone through. Yeah, they're not lawyers pretending to be one.😏
@nicoleloss7987
@nicoleloss7987 Жыл бұрын
Hybe doesn't handle restocking of albums .
@Honeybee0613
@Honeybee0613 Жыл бұрын
'They have nothing to prove to anyone' LOUDEEEEER so the ones at the back can hear you too cause ain't that the truth. Love you, bora friend!
@tnapatutieamber4179
@tnapatutieamber4179 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video and she intelligently explained everything ...
@brendathorn2451
@brendathorn2451 Жыл бұрын
"The album is about growth not charts." Yes, it's about growth but that doesn't mean that an artist who stays up all night preparing the album doesn't want to have good numbers. That to me is an excuse for neglect.
@ssev4026
@ssev4026 Жыл бұрын
That's just an excuse coz they don't wanna stream and so they can justify company's mistreatment
@peacheditsz
@peacheditsz Жыл бұрын
Im not saying this is not true i understand your point. I will say is BTS cares about the art first & so should Army. We should respect their journeys & also stream because we vibe with music & their point. All of us are different audiences we do not all like the same thing so numbers do reflect that. But I think we should stop the whining & spread the love of BTS, in spreading the art it won't be neglect. ❤
@tyneshiatate517
@tyneshiatate517 Жыл бұрын
The interview with Pharrell had nothing to do with Indigo. It was done before its release.
@lindaelder8404
@lindaelder8404 Жыл бұрын
Agree 100%! with you. All the solo projects are great..
@Aijk901
@Aijk901 Жыл бұрын
On the other hand, them capturing different audiences, different platforms will help them when they will do their comeback. Imagine you are a hiphop fan but havent heard jhope not until lollapalooza, or enjoying jack harlow but no idea about jungkook.. this is a winwin for the boys. They have a great strategic team i might say. They have different promotions, sure, but honestly we dont know what plans they’ve come up with behind those hybe doors. Nevertheless, all are doing great with their music. Let us all support them. Stream their songs and be positive!!💜
@Sanjay-yd1jq
@Sanjay-yd1jq Жыл бұрын
I love each members solo projects. Each masterpiece showcasing their individual passion.
@mariaflores3329
@mariaflores3329 Жыл бұрын
Si, tienes razón, ellos quieren crecer como artistas y esta era su oportunidad y creo que fue muy dificil, siempre lo dijeron, extrañaban a su equipo....asi que, aunque nos cuesta verlos buscando su propio estilo y en cierta forma nos preocupa que quieran seguir por su lodo,, ahora bien entiendan también a army...no ha sido facil todo este proceso ❤❤
@Appy3774
@Appy3774 Жыл бұрын
And someone here talked about extended there contract i wanna tell no member in bts will break the contract until or unless all members decide to change their company because they love each other as band members even if other members are achieving good they gonna be happy for them and kim taehyung is like that . He loves his band members care for them wholeheartedly.
@Forever-dw1ng
@Forever-dw1ng Жыл бұрын
Tae is also breaking records
@lacon4
@lacon4 Жыл бұрын
Agree with you100% DT and Bora City.💜👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@semangka_ungu1504
@semangka_ungu1504 Жыл бұрын
nay. i do not believe there are favouritism in promoting their solo song/album. it all depends on who their target audience, song genre, each member preference to promote their songs/works. each member is different. thus, song promotion varies. i'm enjoying every piece of the song/album. if they were mistreated, they wouldn't extend their contract with HYBE
@JackInTheBox0294
@JackInTheBox0294 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@Forever24Young
@Forever24Young Жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@faizasamin13
@faizasamin13 Жыл бұрын
Obviously there is favouritism but cult fandom like u didn't understand 😂
@gema3549
@gema3549 Жыл бұрын
​@@faizasamin13or you are just dumb and didn't understand a thing from the video admit it😂
@laylascott6096
@laylascott6096 Жыл бұрын
They’re literally owned by their record labels.
@pratikshnasinghpratap5650
@pratikshnasinghpratap5650 Жыл бұрын
Solo stans can never be satisfied with any amount of promotions... Thank you DT Parker for sharing this video though to the insensible it is again a waste of effort... our 7 gems love each other and we are here for all of them...
@evangelineyoung8104
@evangelineyoung8104 Жыл бұрын
That’s not true, what is this Lady talking about✨🌟💫☀️🤘🏼🤌🇵🇭🇺🇸
@eldoramcphie6802
@eldoramcphie6802 Жыл бұрын
Exactly the members have chosen how to represent themselves.
@SusanaSepulveda-cc7te
@SusanaSepulveda-cc7te Жыл бұрын
Yo creo que hay favoritos por parte de la agencia hay algunos que venden más que otros...hasta el fandom hace diferencias no podrían exigir igualdad si ellos hacen lo mismo.
@rosaliebaloloy4528
@rosaliebaloloy4528 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's true. Respect them.
@valerieyuap4888
@valerieyuap4888 Жыл бұрын
Variety is the spice of life..I love all the BTS members who are talented for many reasons..they killed every type of music they performed...can you imagine if every member promote their albums in the same monotonous way.. I simply loved all of them ..very good sharing in this ‘about time’ video ..looking forward to the 7 when they gather again! ARMY must be appreciative n must keep supporting them..
@sanjulimbu6460
@sanjulimbu6460 Жыл бұрын
When this kind of complaining come up I'm also think for short time but now I completely understand 😊 so thank you so much girl for your explanation and thanks Dt parker for reaction video 👍👍🙏
@ЛидияКочанова-в6ю
@ЛидияКочанова-в6ю Жыл бұрын
Здравствуйте. ВТС супер группа, каждый хорош по своему. Спасибо за ролик, за ваши понятные для всех мысли. Очень люблю ребят. Ни как не могу выделить кого то одного из них. Они прекрасные друзья. Они уникальны каждый. Как же здорово, что звезды соединили их вместе. Спасибо всем кто им помог в этом. 👍👍👍👋👋👋😍😘🥰💖💕❣️💗❤️💝💜💜💜💜
@sweetnightiza5003
@sweetnightiza5003 Жыл бұрын
Very well said,,,love this explanation video😍 I💜7.......
@ellesongs891
@ellesongs891 Жыл бұрын
The people who keep on saying the is no favoritism in how the company treats the members is because their fave has not faced any blatant sabotage and discrimination at the hands of the company. If people would stop being subjective and remove themselves from the Armi bubble and look at everything that concerns BT5 objectively from the very beginning till now, from an outsider's perspective, you will see clearly who is favored and who isn't. I respect your opinion DT, but your bias Jm, out of all the members, has faced suppression and sabotage at the hands of the company. The reason why people insist otherwise is because time and time again he has managed to rise above every negative circumstance. For me, I believe it is only by God's grace and the fact that this was his destined path, that's why despite everything working against him, he keeps on shining and rising. Anyway, for me, I prefer facts over suppositions, and facts have shown me that Jm was never and will never be the company's favorite.
@jazzyjamster25
@jazzyjamster25 Жыл бұрын
Because there is no blatant sabotage
@punsrixnoresta
@punsrixnoresta Жыл бұрын
Armys spent for month trying to convince people that layover is not pop so that’s why they don’t want to stream and now they’re saying it’s pop cuz they rather licked that company’s azz. amis and that company are his biggest antis fr
@maxima.sarmiento
@maxima.sarmiento Жыл бұрын
So what Boracity is telling me is they choose their own promotion based on the songs genre??? How can this people say that this member Dont want be successful and other member want be so sucessful because one said it and other don't dose not make them less ambitious or anything they work hard for those years for it
@jasonsu2086
@jasonsu2086 Жыл бұрын
Success is not just defined by chart position. You are projecting your own definition of success on each member.
@Jiminx2
@Jiminx2 Жыл бұрын
That's what I'm most frustrated about. The whole vedio is made everyone more confused and angry because I understand the theme of the vedio but she didn't clear ant issues that people actually have. So, u just don't agree with the vedio.
@btslove179
@btslove179 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonsu2086 yeah success is not just defined by chart and i totally agree as taehyung didnt get to billboard 100 top 1 he is still most popular member in the bts oh yeah not only bts but also in whole kpop
@eileencritchley4630
@eileencritchley4630 Жыл бұрын
@@btslove179 Yet he did well in the places that liked his music he did well on the UK charts as did JK and Jimin for example. Difference courses for different horse's. as the saying goes. V did Well also in Japan where he promoted easily and speaks the language also so that was super easy for him.
@btslove179
@btslove179 Жыл бұрын
@@eileencritchley4630 well im not complaining and yeah he did great as tae bias im proud of him as we know he is multitalented king He is bigger then kpop himselves ..chart is nothing and he is not greedy about chart but also break many records by his album if want he would have done different kinds of songs but he choose to do rnb song and i support him he really killed it ...
@LenchmobOT7
@LenchmobOT7 Жыл бұрын
Very well explained !!!Thanks Army !!!
@endrea
@endrea Жыл бұрын
And the promotions were not good for many of the members. And when I talk about promotions, I talk about creating remixes to increase purchases, I talk about promoting it on large playlists, on radio. The US company does nothing. She even delayed Tae's album and this affected the sales of his debut. Besides, he announced the album 5 days after it was released.
@ruthfischer7615
@ruthfischer7615 Жыл бұрын
They were. They were just not what YOU wanted. Look and try to understand what boracity is describing first before you complain. Remixes work especially for pop songs - which is why they got them - and must be wanted by the member - so they were a choice made by Jimin and Jungkook for their music. The other members thought their music was perfect the way it is. Watch some more of boracity magazine's video essays. She explains the music industry well. In this one pay more attention to the part in Jimin's section where she spoke about his "misstake" not to buy streams. The video that is from is more complex but also fits with your question: these playlists have to be bought into. If the R'n'B playlist chooses to accept Taehyung's music on their list it is a choice made by them - but the most popular playlists? have to be paied for. You really don't want to know how many years it took for a rapline member to finally be on a Hiphop playlist not only a K-pop playlist. Misstakes happen. That is life. And one person forgetting does not negate all the others who didn't. But with his album Taehyung has a chance for a more longtime success album not the fast paced/short one of a lot of Pop albums. The sales were not "delayed". Taehyung's C_bar f* uped and ordered 800 000 albums as a mass (different plattforms) pretty much last minute which was not what those plattforms expected/had stocked for). The result was predectiable and meant that the numbers did not immidetly counted as only albums actually send out count. Albums downgraded in numbers visibly this year: Jimin, Taehyung, Seventeen, TXT but also Exo, aespa, Stray Kids etc. Newest BS - far worse than anything I have named: NCT 127 (?) They sold a little over 250 000 albums in their first 3 days. We are talking about a group that should have sold 1 million at the lowest probably more at 1,5 or even 2 million. Fans believe it is because albums are not stocked. But this is very extrem. It may just not be possible to produce the numbers of album the fans want. But I do not see any problem when ordering since there are many places you CAN order from other than over weverse.
@eileencritchley4630
@eileencritchley4630 Жыл бұрын
That's all paid for media hype and they don't do that not as artists and not as a company. As for getting into different music Genre lists that take's time and has nothing to do with the company that's all down to the streaming site management time. I remember how long it took for the Rap line to be seen as being worthy of being put onto the correct catargory on Spotify. Spotify are not that great when it come's to getting albums and individual songs and artist in the correct catagories. Never have been and some how I don't seen that changing much. There's really nothing an artist or artist company can do about that problem either.
@nikaywright
@nikaywright Жыл бұрын
​@@ruthfischer7615Thank you, but you're beating a dead hores
@julianne7397
@julianne7397 Жыл бұрын
JK had that problem too... less radio plays, delayed cd release... frozen youtube views...and missing spotify streams... Good thing ARMY doesn't stop viewing and streaming...
@eileencritchley4630
@eileencritchley4630 Жыл бұрын
@@julianne7397 correct it's happens to all BTS members solo work and their Group work.
@Gigito9
@Gigito9 Жыл бұрын
Each member did exactly what THEY wanted to do! They are all different people. Some do not enjoy tons of promotions or touring alone.
@savinex6583
@savinex6583 Жыл бұрын
you said that it's hybe team that think about things like charts, sales and i agree with this but why is it okay for one member to get multiple remixes to chart better? fans just want for every member to get the same tools and promotion and by "promotion" i don't mean go and perform there, do variety shows. i'm talking about sending song to the radio, giving your artist a playlisting. one song by a member gets added to "this is bts" playlist right after release, while the other a month later after milliion e-mails asking company to do that. things like this affect their numbers. let's not act like they don't care because they do. that is why RM shared a picture when his album reached 400M streams. that is why jk say "let's go even higher" when reached number #1
@AfJKbf
@AfJKbf 5 ай бұрын
Disclaimer : This comment is quite long so if you don't like reading sorry x) I'm here a bit late but I'm glad some people understand that it makes no sense for Hybe/Bighit to sabotage BTS or any particular member. Firstly, because they are the ones who bring in the most money and HYBE is a corporation so what would have been the point of sabotaging the artists who are the most profitable? Secondly, they have always been free to do whatever they want. Of course they have certain obligations but what I mean is that from the beginning they are the ones who are masters of their music not the puppets. Bang PD has been there to monitor and encourage them, advise them, etc. But it's not the big bad wolf who wants to control BTS. People who complain about all this stuff are mainly solos and people who don't want to listen to them when they speak. If they complain again in the comments, it's because they don't want to listen to what is said in the video. In the end it's all a question of ego. I could, for example, complain that Jungkook couldn't release his mixtape JJK1 in 2019 because he had too much work for BTS. Which is not totally untrue given his role as a main vocalist but he said it himself in an interview on Weverse magazine in 2022, he wrote lots of songs that he deleted every time because that he was not satisfied. He's a perfectionist who doesn't believe in his talent and abilities despite the fact that he works super hard so he has skills and is super good at a whole bunch of things, especially in the world of music, audiovisual, visual arts and sport. He is an all-rounder artist: singer, dancer, rapper, songwriter, producer, director, photographer, videographer, painter, drawer, actor, photo model, etc. (not everything is official but you get the idea) The only thing that I think is really unfortunate is that he often puts others before himself but I can't change that. I'm just a fan who wants the best for his bias but I don't allow myself to say whatever I want... As I have been an ARMY since December 2023, I felt guilty at one point. I also read comments from people saying that Tae was being sabotaged, complaining that Jungkook was highlighted while the others weren't, that real ARMYs listened to all of their songs without exception, etc. On the other hand it allowed me to discover great songs/raps like for example 'Wild flowers', 'Agust D', 'Daydream', etc. So I could have missed them if I hadn't been curious but sorry there are some of their solo songs that I'm not a fan of. That doesn't mean I don't deserve to be an ARMY, that I'm a solo stan, or that I don't support them individually. I've listened their songs, even several times, but I can't get along with certain songs and I think that's normal and healthy, we don't have to like all their songs without exception. It would also be hypocritical of me to say that I like them and then never listen to them. Then when I started watching Boracity's videos, I felt a relief because she herself says that she doesn't particularly like certain songs and that's okay. It allows me to take a step back on several things. I feel less like a bad person... I know this will upset some people but for example I'm not really into Namjoon's new album. I really liked Indigo but RPWP is a style that suits me less, maybe by listening to the songs again I will appreciate them more but for the moment it's not really my cup of tea. By saying that I still feel guilty because it gives the impression that I don't support him, when it's quite the opposite but as was said in the video and as you said, they express what they want to express individually so it touches the public who is receptive to this kind of music. It's not for everyone and that's okay. I agree that many seem more interested in numbers than music and artists. And at one point I also said to myself "why does this MV have more views than this one?", "why is this song streamed much less than this one?", etc. Then I understood that the songs that are streamed the most are those that have an MV and that are performed during TV shows, awards shows, etc. Yes, it's satisfying to know that they succeed, that they get awards, that they have so many millions/billions of views for their MVs but that's really not the most important thing. All I hope as a fan is that when they'll come back they'll still enjoy making music as much as before and that they will not get lost along the way, that they will not lose their identity. (this is what scares me the most)
@Chim_13aby
@Chim_13aby Жыл бұрын
You are right dre, i have an issue on focusing on numbers and not necessarily the music and who it is meant for. Which is wrong cause all their music is awesome and i support every single track, which i think is what is important.
@boyskiz
@boyskiz Жыл бұрын
As what BTS has been saying to just TRUST them as they know what they are doing. Everything they are doing is well planned and calculated.
@endrea
@endrea Жыл бұрын
In BTS there is a lot of favoritism from the company and the army. Regarding the low performance of albums by members who don't sing pop, the army says it's because it's not pop music when in fact many artists are successful with rap and r&b songs. The fandom uses this as an excuse and so does the company. Even the Grammy submissions are all wrong. At most two members are in the correct submissions while the others are not. A clear disrespect from the company towards your work. They don't love HYBE but they love the group and that's why they renewed their contract.
@ruthfischer7615
@ruthfischer7615 Жыл бұрын
Yes, they are successfull - but their numbers are lower. Not to mention that numbers a. don't always come from the core fandom b. you are competing with GLOBAL numbers, not what is popular in the US c. even if they see themselves as Army solos exist - what C_bars do for example we saw when Taehyung's tried to order over 800 000 albums last minute. and certain genres are listened to more in the world at different places. The company respects them plenty: you are the ones who DON'T. Which is why Hoseok apologized for his choice NOT to have a physical album. It's funny that you complain on the categories the members are submitted to - when as far as I can tell we don't know which ones they were submitted to. We only know the albums/songs, not the category (depends on the time period anyway). Which doesn't mean that Scammy's will nominate them.
@endrea
@endrea Жыл бұрын
@@ruthfischer7615 And here you are once again making excuses, as always. Do you have excuses for everything and the numbers? low as always. This fandom is a joke.
@endrea
@endrea Жыл бұрын
@@ruthfischer7615 And the LAYOVER sales that his fanbase funded counted for ASIA. Unlike sales in the USA, which were purposely delayed to a day after the billboard counts ended. Even Target stores didn't have the album.
@eileencritchley4630
@eileencritchley4630 Жыл бұрын
@@endrea Wooohooo what an assumption to make were your there in the meeting that said oh lets hold back the layover album? Stop talking nonsense. If something wasn't on a particular shops shelves by a particular date doesn't mean it was 'Held Back'.
@ruthfischer7615
@ruthfischer7615 Жыл бұрын
@@endrea Wow! The entitlement! Shipping trouble can happen. Trouble with stocking can happen. There are quiet a few things that can go wrong. That is not a conspiracy. Look for example at the newest NCT album. From what I see they sold ca. 260 000 albums or something in the first 3 days. We are talking about a group that usually sells easy 1 million/ 1,5 million, too (maybe they will also manage 2 million - IDK). Fandom believes it is because the albums are not stocked as they didn't get their orders. But shops should have ordered them: so why? It happens. It may be that the places that make the physical CDs are not capable to create the volume of CD that are ordered. (my theory). IDK But it is a mass problem and not specfic to Layover. Not to mention you seem to forget to enjoy his music - which is sad. It's so beautiful.
@Elizabeth-nx8po
@Elizabeth-nx8po Жыл бұрын
You can’t please everyone. BTS does it cause they love what they do. I love them because they love what they do whether as a group or a solo artist.
@guaraciaragomesribeiro6922
@guaraciaragomesribeiro6922 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to recommend you other material from Bora called "jimin's debut album: the FACE of today's pop music", please!!! Look forward it. 🙏
@pilarmendoza8684
@pilarmendoza8684 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for reacting to this video, I totally agree with her and you. I think it is a beautiful gift that each of the members delight us with their projects, I love each of the songs they have done individually, even 3D, although I have my opinions with the collaboration, I love that each of them can express what they want. They are artists, they are HUMAN and we are lucky to enjoy them in this time, in this world. 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
@Abc초콜렛-d3v
@Abc초콜렛-d3v Жыл бұрын
Oh, this video isn't objective in the first place. You're not talking about radio airplay payola?
@SandySandy-H2O
@SandySandy-H2O Жыл бұрын
Excellent and clever analysis
@TanniesOT7
@TanniesOT7 Жыл бұрын
it's sad some army are shallow and narrow minded I must say and its not this people can't understand but they just don't want to understand. I mean if you're a REAL ARMY you should know each of the member by now their personality their passion and everything right?! A true Army supports, cares, understand and just love each one of them and jst a SOLO stan. This solo stan are not Army cuz dome throws negative and bad comments against one member and co-army! If i encounter that kind of solo stan and blocked and report.
@alpaca143
@alpaca143 Жыл бұрын
Some armys mostly solo stans are obviously un attentive they watch and listen to their bias but not actually understanding the message they want to deliver to their fans..
@_birdie
@_birdie Жыл бұрын
are u gonna be posting ur full reaction to the intro to jimin vid u posted a clip from yesterday? btw there's nothing wrong w acknowledging that there's been problems and many things BigHit paid for or did for others that weren't done for JM. it isn't fan theories, it's documented facts. (and doesn't mean the members did anything wrong.) He got no radio play, never put on spotify TTH playlist, wouldn't send out LC to radio stations, no presales, won't combine LC spotify streams, thousands of sales cancelled or never sent out, cds sold out and not restocked for months, after days of sales on the bigHit site they announced none of the purchases from their store will actually count towards charts, only 9 days of promo, no ads, no vinyls, 2 MVs instead of one for every song, etc. And that doesn't even include the seriously sketchy stuff on spotify + YT.
@julianne7397
@julianne7397 Жыл бұрын
radio play really is a problem in the US... JK had that problem too, if not for ARMYs pushing radio requests, they wouldn't do it. ARMYs had to post posters around the world to promote... and for Spotify, JK and V also had that problem with filters and minimal streams.... ARMY had to tag Spotify many times about this... same as KZbin... 3D had so many days where the MV views weren't moving, not immediately combined, and even not immediately credited to JK... Good thing ARMY keeps watching it to finally boost views. 🥲
@_birdie
@_birdie Жыл бұрын
they paid for radio play for JK. and sent his song out to radio stations a ton before the single dropped. they're giving V music vids for all of his songs, even tho JM begged for the same thing. (oh and just to clarify, i wasn't referring to filtering in regards to spotify ☺️. sorry should've made that more clear) again i'm not saying ANY of the guys did anything wrong here. it's solely the company and others. i'm glad JK and V got so many of those things, i just hate that it's not the same for all. Bc ppl like Hobi + RM were also shafted quite a bit themselves. 🫰
@nancysharma2096
@nancysharma2096 Жыл бұрын
​​​​@@julianne7397scooter and western producers were involved so the song gnna be big and will be sent to radio plays was obvs. no armys didn't really beg for radios for seven or 3d when radio hosts were tweeting and agreed for playing it already lol. seven was promoted good by label itself and armys goin out w posters thats on em. wasn't smthg which they were forced to bc label didn't do anything. i was actually surprised the way taehyung and jimin was sabotaged by spotify/bb none of the jks release faced the same based on facts lets be real considering the both the singles were doing really well.
@sitisaniahmohamad9622
@sitisaniahmohamad9622 Жыл бұрын
did u know paying the radio is be like black deal?did u truly want to say big company using illegal way?think twice b4 u said that..send a song to radio is a promotion methid ti reach more GP..and usually laebl send their song but its completely on their dj to repeat play or not..if the song got more aundience did they stupid to not spin repeatly..
@sitisaniahmohamad9622
@sitisaniahmohamad9622 Жыл бұрын
and be truly what will u do all if jk got release a documentary about his album in the middle of jimin debut album?what happen at twitter now if thing get twist?even jk do his weverse live to army just 4,5hour get u all calling him worst name..think about it
@journeyonpaper5462
@journeyonpaper5462 Жыл бұрын
This video was needed. I do not believe there are favoritism in releases. These are 7 men with different musical interest and goals. I do believe number & charts matter to them, which is why some members acknowledge & celebrate those successes. However, the significance placed on chart success / stats would vary depending on the member & their individual goals. Some fans get carried away, by focusing on the stats/ charts more than the actual product, and hard work of each member. Thus, pedaling negative narrative about other members to satisfy their own Stance on what they think members music & promotion should be. Each member’s goal as a solo artist is different. These are 7 men with varied vision for their solo endeavors 🤷🏽‍♀️ we should trust and listen to the members. Above all, They all support one another 💜
@silviaabidzar2901
@silviaabidzar2901 Жыл бұрын
One thing, if some of you guys think it's so dissapointing that the boys didn't get the same "love" from the company about their solo promotions, (sorry to say), but i feel bad bcs RM's indigo didn't get the same "love" from us, who called ourselves ARMY
@sarahomar8351
@sarahomar8351 Жыл бұрын
and V as well his album is a masterpiece yet the views are so disappointing
@sweetkiller1927
@sweetkiller1927 Жыл бұрын
​@@sarahomar8351 V album is fastest kpop solo stream album on Spotify . Some people will never be satisfied with anything but see other members sucess as competition. It's just so clear.
@silviaabidzar2901
@silviaabidzar2901 Жыл бұрын
@@sarahomar8351 they deserve better fans, fr 😔
@2009idaz
@2009idaz Жыл бұрын
@@sarahomar8351 V promotion focus is in Korea and Japan. I don't understand why the fans are complaining so much about V. If you think he got fewer views because of the less promotion, let's think about it. Hybe made 5 MVs for him more than the other members, attended IU's music reality show, performed in Inkigayo, and had Tiny Desk concert in Japan. Not to mention he attended many other reality shows that he also promoted his album. What more promotion do you want for him? Also, the promotion of the solo project is the member's choice.
@sarahomar8351
@sarahomar8351 Жыл бұрын
@@2009idaz I never said anything about promotions did I? I was talking about fans not streaming the boys' songs equally
@eytchemm9577
@eytchemm9577 Жыл бұрын
I love what im watching now the video the explanation and your reaction and specially your tshirt as a Filipina 😂💜💜
@darcelburkhalter9617
@darcelburkhalter9617 Жыл бұрын
Boracity Magazine nails the promotions in her detail explanation. 😊
@TheLilou666
@TheLilou666 Жыл бұрын
Je suis d'accord avec toi en tout point il sont unique tout les sept. Et les sept réunie c'est les 7 fantastiques.😘💜🫰🫶
@ssev4026
@ssev4026 Жыл бұрын
Mind you we still don't have "THIS IS V" playlist in Spotify and they just submitted his album under "pop" Category in grammys instead of r&b/jazz if someone still doesn't see how much they hate him you're a company stan
@eileencritchley4630
@eileencritchley4630 Жыл бұрын
That is down to Spotify not BigHit/HYBE . Spotify like to classify it all as Kpop. Spotify took their own dam time before they finally accepted that the Rappers of BTS were able to get their albums onto the correct play lists. It's a big problem and is a problem for other artist's as well. Not just our lovely BTS members. I was talking about it with one of my friends who's having just the same problem right now with their Music which is on Spotify it's in the wrong catagory and they are refusing to pay to be on Spotify created lists as well.
@charitymudau3495
@charitymudau3495 Жыл бұрын
The Grammy are the one that are responsible for categoring albums not bighit. It is not the first time that the Grammys have changed categories they did the same with Justin Bieber when he released a R&B Album and his category was changed to Pop.
@eileencritchley4630
@eileencritchley4630 Жыл бұрын
@@charitymudau3495 correct
@Congems
@Congems Жыл бұрын
💜 i love this so much
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