Dual-Operator, Two Axis GoPro Gimbal for FPV Drones

[@madpropspodcast]

There are some things in the fpv world that are pretty gimmicky. This… this is amazing

[@NURKFPV]

It's a little of both

[@LeviWarkentin]

Haha yeah, if you want real production version of this the inspire 3 has an FPV view and also a 2nd camera

[@NURKFPV]

@@LeviWarkentin well it's also 5x the size and weight and 16x the cost. So yes it's so much better platform but we're comparing apples to oranges

[@olivierderuiter4776]

@@LeviWarkentin it’s also not as fast as some 5-6” quads.

[@mountainmafiaentertainment]

Would love to have you film Mountain Havoc with something like this! June 9-11, 2023 in Bonner's Ferry, Idaho. It's our international monster truck racing championship (Mostly USA and Canada). At least a dozen monster trucks/mega-buggies will be racing for the championship title. It has been a challenge for our film/drone crew to capture the downhill section of our Mountain Man off-road course. This setup would really fill a gap in our media coverage of the event. Plus, our media director is a huge fan of yours

[@NURKFPV]

oh god that sounds amazing!

[@mountainmafiaentertainment]

@@NURKFPV Sent you an email via your contact page!

[@peakfpvmedia]

Another tool for the shed. Its on the list due to clients wanting horizon leveling 50% of the time. No matter how much I try to control the yaw I still dislike how much crop there is in RSGO/Gyroflow when locking that horizon. Added bonus: dual op! Great video!

[@NURKFPV]

That's the goal!

[@cadenfischer4811]

max lens mod for gopro keeps the horizion locked.

[@readysetdrone]

This thing looks amazing! Great to see Nurk and Winston back in action! Great video guys!

[@NURKFPV]

The dream team.

[@Timuchee23]

I used to do this camera assistant job before I even started flying FPV but there was a drone team that got hired for certain shots and we put an alexa mini on a big 8 prop drone with a dual operator setup using a freefly movi gimbal. I was amazed by how much money was just flying around in the air lol

[@NURKFPV]

It's come full circle. I fly similar rigs to that all the time now and you're absolutely right.. it's pretty nutty

[@davidquesada8704]

@@NURKFPV back in the day when I started in the hobby. I built my own drones before FPV was a thing. We put gimbals on our cameras and someone would fly the drone while someone else flew the gimbal. We got the gimbal feed straight from the camera instead of the added weight of some separate “aiming camera”.

[@JCtheMusicMan_]

This is next-level when you can divide the workload into pilot and camera operator. ❤ I’m sure you could think ahead and add a third camera for the film directo😎 …maybe even add a systems engineer for monitoring telemetry 😁

[@NURKFPV]

That's the goal. Maybe a 3 axis for GoPro? Would be nutty

[@ATF2099]

@@NURKFPV a hocus pocus fuller

[@rambozo_fpv176]

Where's GapIT when you need him?

[@bfattori01]

That's a lot of cameras! 😮

[@jacobdimick7070]

This is sick! I'd love to see some more videos about all the quads you use for the different types of filming

[@NURKFPV]

I've done some in the past, but I think I'm out of date now. Maybe need to do a new one.

[@bestbattle]

OllieW for the win! For getting us the storm32 project

[@NURKFPV]

it's all come so far!

[@OlliW42]

@bestbattle thx, sir! and thx for noting what this is all based on ;)

[@precision_aerial]

Great video. I got excited when you said central Indiana. I am a professional drone service provider out of Fort Wayne but I do work in Indianapolis on a semi regular basis. Keep up the good work.

[@longwednesday]

This is so sick. Opens up so many doors. Can’t wait to see this tech grow to where we can throw the new Red Komodo X on the set up 😬

[@ducfpv]

Nurk always pushing forward to the next level, Great!!!

[@NURKFPV]

Just trying to have a good time!

[@davidquesada8704]

back in the day when I started in the hobby. I built my own drones before FPV was a thing. We put gimbals on our cameras and someone would fly the drone while someone else flew the gimbal. We got the gimbal feed straight from the camera instead of the added weight of some separate “aiming camera”.

[@NURKFPV]

awesome! We're having with with this way of doing it now!

[@davidquesada8704]

@@NURKFPV Try using the video feed from your GoPro instead of a separate camera. You’ll get more flight time.

[@le_tranq]

@@davidquesada8704 GoPro doesn't support that feature anymore (av out)... If you used HDMI out how would you send it?

[@bscholer]

I was just on that bridge yesterday! Awesome shooting!

[@iflycameras]

Built a dual operator 3-axis (arris cm-3000) setup with a dji f550 about a decade ago, best we had was gopro 4 black. This reminds me of back in those days. Analog screens on the ground mounted to 2x controllers - very much like a primitive inspire 1

[@iflycameras]

you could probably just use a mavic or avata for most of these shots and fly twice as long 😆

[@infoaerialmaster]

Dude I think you've found your niche, gimbaled FPV drones. It's so counterintuitive, but you not only have proven use-case necessity but also are doing it in a really thoughtful way with the intuitive fit and finish that only a true neurotic RC-head know and love. 💯

[@NURKFPV]

It's something that I've been having fun with!

[@GhostRyderFPV]

When we first started pulling gyros out of wiimotes, most of our quads had gimbals steadying silver gopros or Mobius cams. Another PID loop to tune, too, lol

[@infoaerialmaster]

@@GhostRyderFPV yeah that's crazy, I was using gimbaled silver gopros but not on a fpv rig but a f550 hex with a naza 1 fc I didn't even know Fpv existed!

[@GhostRyderFPV]

@@infoaerialmaster I ordered a TBS Discovery frame after the nostalgia set in, how stupid will it look when I pop a 20x20 AIO on it lol

[@jirolefpv7802]

awesomer job bro,really looking foward for v2 gimbal

[@motoluko]

this is insanely cool, im so trying something like this

[@libmananchannel]

Hello "NURK FPV"! Thank you for showing us such a wonderful video! I feel so happy! I'm looking forward to your next work! Have a nice day!

[@crank_FPV]

This is why I love your channel, you do fun and interesting shit that I also do…we do the same shit you just make KZbin videos about it and it’s so fun to watch back. Thanks man keep it coming and would love to see Setup on rc link as I has namaste on the way but can’t find info on how to setup rx etc. you the man!

[@jcbouden]

I am currently planning to go for a 3 axis gopro buid myself haha. So cool to see yours and watch how it flies. I was thinking about going underslung for the pan axis, what is your opinion about that ?

[@NURKFPV]

Be sure to send me some details on what you've got going on. I want to check it out.

[@foxfpv]

I think using 2 axis is a step forward for sure, but what I see here is that you as a pilot still have to manage two things: piloting and recording (by that I mean keeping the object in the frame), which is pretty much the same we do with fixed mounted camera. 2 axis just helps a little to improve this. I'd personally prefer to use 3 axis gimbal so I can focus fully only on flying, so I dont need to fly sideways, my operator can turn the camera to the side and do that for me etc.. I think you know what I mean since you flew with gimballed cinelifter as I remember so you know what the results are.

[@NURKFPV]

3 axis is the dream!

[@pasqualeiacono2417]

@@NURKFPV why no1 try to use some sort of tarot 3axis gimbal controlled via crsf for 2op? mby can't handle the gforce from fpv ?

[@NURKFPV]

@@pasqualeiacono2417 I tried them way way back and they just didn't have the torque or the software flexibility for FPV

[@mannythehunter]

Next level setup. Yeah once he works out the kinks the final parts can be injection molded and this thing will rock!!

[@NURKFPV]

Give me carbon or give me nothing

[@jayant.srivastava]

I see a technology revolution

[@gravityfuzz]

This looks awesome. Gotta have it.

[@NURKFPV]

It's a blast!

[@nfnworldpeace1992]

the dual operated co-op buddy-doesnt-need-to-feel-useless-mode is cool! these gimbal on fpvdrones experiment is an interesting journey!

[@NURKFPV]

Yeppers

[@b3owu1f]

This is amazing.. reached out to see if they will provide STLs for those of us that can print our own parts for it. The cost for additional parts is quite high from their site and I suspect like what happened in your video a lot of people will be breaking things. Hopefully they would provide STLs for the parts that break easily. Or.. someone else will design and share STLs for this. I also imagine they'll offer a 3 axis version one day.

[@SuperMouseDV]

The little bit you got of the Bike Ride. That was amazing and I can already see the potential.. Having a drone that can face forward and see what is coming while the drone is flying and going around the subject .. All the while Someone can see where its going even looking behind the drone.. GAME CHANGER.. (if that gimbal can do it)

[@NURKFPV]

Well.. so this gimbal doesn't really do that. Winston was just flying sideways in that case, but you're absolutely right on the concept for what the goal would be.

[@t.ticklesfpv]

thank you for doing this. big love from west coast canada

[@brundog807]

I had a TAROT T2D gimbal back in the Hobbyking days that I did this with. I have been looking for a modern day gimbal to put on my 7" to do exactly what you did with an Air unit or vista. Id really like a 3axis style though to be able to pan. Especially if it was hanging under the drone with some retractable landing gear.

[@CarnivalPS]

Would the gopro Max lens work to help keep the horizon level without the gimbal?

[@kyanhluong]

Very cool, might learn to fly FPV if one day I can afford this

[@thenozon]

I love this gadget - I am longing for a carbon fiber made one tho - AND I think it doesn't need to be a two man job. Flying FPV/ACRO its quite hard to take the fingers of and use a dial like on the Mavic remote to control the gimbal. especially when u r pinching. But I think something like foot pedals or buttons could work for UP and DOWN tilt of the gimbal. And there needs to be another CROSSHAIR in the HUD indicating where the gimbal looks at so u can judge the angle of the GIMBAL CAM.

[@NURKFPV]

this doesn't NEED to be a dual op thing - but it supports the option. We never really said it, but basically if the other controller is off, it just keeps it centered for you no matter what you're doing

[@Shauny_D]

This is awesome

[@NURKFPV]

Thanks! It's pretty amazing!

[@Shauny_D]

@@NURKFPV Was the battery dropping on you a result of the extra weight? You loaded it up! Haha. It be really cool to make one of this was more compact and light using just an 03 unit. Transmission for second op built in and 4k 10bit onboard… Imagine indoors on a 3”…

[@NURKFPV]

@@Shauny_D I'm sure that was a big part of it. But like I said, just user error that I didn't watch my battery levels close enough.

[@FPV24com]

Okay, this is amazing. Have you noticed any interference between the two video transmitters?

[@SemostevMedia]

Welldone nurk

[@NURKFPV]

Thanks for checking it out!

[@flyineyeaerialfpv5592]

Super stoked to see you drop a KZbin video. I can't believe all of the items you had on that drone. I worry about 1 hero 9 on my moongoat being to heavy. Nurk and Winston......Hold my beer 😅 Battery runs low super fast with all that weight. If you aren't used to how little battery time you have its way harder to figure out when you need to come back. If it's in the middle of a shot of course your gonna finish the shot rather than turn to come home. With sturdier parts and streamlined by a company that is capable of fine tuning what you have here it could be a great fringe tool for duos out there filming. Super glad to see you and Winston. I know KZbin videos are taking a back seat for a while when you have a baby and also really important high paying shoots. Not to mention the DRL stuff. Way to keep busy and integrate you hobby into a lucrative career brother. God Bless you and Winston and your family, Happy flying brother.

[@NURKFPV]

Hoping to get more and more out soon!

[@GhostRyderFPV]

It opens the door to some epic 3pv footage, at least. I wonder how well the Namaste would handle a long lens, like the RunCam Scope? With dual-op, I can imagine a rocket launch from here in central FL, (but from *above the clouds)*

[@NURKFPV]

I want to film a rocket launch so bad

[@TomWatkeys]

it would be really cool to fil speed flying. One of the things that is lost with all the rolls and pitch of a normal drone is just how fast and how much motion there is for the pilot. this gives you the chance to fly next to them and film them sideways, or if you reverse mounted the camera gimbal, ahead of them. Either way, it would make for mad content

[@Qwixo]

This invention would be lifechanging. Hope it becomes more popular, durable, etc. in the future! wow😮

[@NURKFPV]

IT's a pretty slick thing!

[@barthchris1]

Not trying to be a smartass but this has been a thing for quite some time. Well, let me rephrase that. It used to be a thing then fell out of favor as smaller, smoother freestyle quads overtook the larger 10" proped 450mm sized quads that pioneered the whole quad/FPV world. I tried this once many years ago on a 220mm sized quad but mounted the gimbal below. Had to catch everytime, big PIA but took great footage. BTW, ever got your beard wrapped up in a prop? Lol!

[@PRZFPV]

im super interested in getting this since its a good way to get into the whole level horizon-dual pilot scenarios

[@NURKFPV]

yeah buddy!

[@ryans4634]

This is insane bro thank you for bringing things like this to me eyes

[@NURKFPV]

Glad you checked it out!

[@Johow]

Actually this takes me back to the very beginning of GoPro gimbals, before we had big gimbals for bigger cameras like 8-9 years ago. All of this has been here before.

[@NURKFPV]

I've tried all the ones from 8-9 years ago, but they don't have the torque and speed to keep up with the wind shear and the g-loading that I want them to do.

[@thecraftza]

Dope 🔥Drone Pilot from SA🇿🇦 Needed to watch this

[@StrifeCJ]

errr finally. been waiting forever since i saw the preview of this video. amazing

[@NURKFPV]

Making videos is hard!

[@StrifeCJ]

@@NURKFPV your efforts are appreciated!! favourite fpv channel to watch

[@jgreg95]

I’d say the cold probably didn’t do it any favors by making it more brittle but yeah it’s gonna need a durability upgrade, because hey people fly in the cold (not me so much) 🥶. Cool product though, and definitely bookmarked to keep an eye on.

[@NURKFPV]

Cold definitely didn't help, no. But that first break really was just a 6" drop. The same that I'd normally do with my 5" drones (cause who lands nicely)

[@Adam_FPV_]

I would print it in TPU with extra bracing to keep it rigid

[@dta6]

Damn. Cool gizmo, maybe one day it’ll be mass produced for us minions! Dang Nurk, you slimming down bro! Good stuff!

[@NURKFPV]

Down 40 LBS!

[@virgiliogaudiano9442]

awesome video, definitely not representative but great attempt!! cheers fellas

[@crazylolsbg]

I love your videos, Thank You! These are so cool shots!

[@NURKFPV]

Thanks!

[@moretoliving2236]

So happy to see Winston back in your videos. You guys work well together. So is he back back or occasionally back back?

[@travisSimon365]

I'm assuming that the gimbal PIDs aren't user-tunable? That would be a pretty cool feature, but I guess it would require being able to flash the firmware. It seemed pretty smooth, though.

[@NURKFPV]

Gimbal PIDs ARE user-tunable. They come with recommended settings, but you can change them and access the firmware and everything. It's super cool.

[@Humpero]

I think this would really help (would probably need to be way more durable) if you were to try and film a wing-suit, since the main problem is maintaining camera on the subject, when you are chasing at those crazy high speeds.

[@NURKFPV]

oh that would be crazy

[@pontushenkel3366]

It would be cool if you could lock the gimbal via a Switch - aka get the level horizon footage, then flick the switch and go full on FPV freestyle.

[@borgonianevolution]

Desert wind surfing would be good action and a safer test than over water. Lift offs, dunes, all kinds of possibilities there. Maybe head west young man.

[@crank_FPV]

Dude can we get a video on how to setup rx control on this little bad boy gimbal? My brain can’t figure it out, newb problems..I would look hookup an elrs rx and have dual op..just for fun.. lol

[@soymezus4637]

this is insane!! good colorgrade gopro footage can look amazing, i just need the clients to Buy this thing jajaja

[@NURKFPV]

Credit to my editor Josh for a good job on the color grade!

[@JulianHeinFPV]

Can anyone tell me if there is a construction video for this setup? I would be interested to know how the control for the gimbal works.

[@MrSmithFPV]

Very interesting and entertaining video! Like these special gimbal ideas. 👍

[@NURKFPV]

Always a good time!

[@RCRitterFPV]

Nurk!! Doing crazy S per usual.. need a send cut send sponsor to replace the 3d print with something more durable..

[@NURKFPV]

Carbon or go home

[@squaddingquads]

This... Is.... Amzing

[@NURKFPV]

It's a blast that's for sure

[@squaddingquads]

@@NURKFPV it looks it brother, definitely needs a bit of refinement but this could well be a game changer, thanks for showcasing it brother 💪💪💪

[@thirtythreeeyes8624]

They need to print that thing in ninjatek armadillo it's a super hard tpu and when you get the print settings dialed it's almost indestructible.

[@NURKFPV]

I'm sure they're going to come up with something more durable!

[@timaleman3861]

filming a downhill mountain biker with that would be sick

[@tomengman]

This looks damn good compared to cropping horizon lock for sure! But what is that gimbal made out of? PLA? PETG? Rice crackers? Candied sugar? I mean that can't be just a design issue, for a 5" I consider those landings, not even crashes.. How about they make some out of carbon fibre reinforced nylon instead? :)

[@NURKFPV]

That's why I'm excited to see what they can do for version 2.

[@babafpvoriginal]

Dual-Op is a really good cinematic option! It's a better option then the inspire, sorry DJI pilots.... That is freedom in 3D Space! Like it! Keep up the great work NURK!

[@NURKFPV]

It's a great hybrid between the two that's for sure!

[@rockman49er]

I have hdo fat shark what do i need to buy to get head tracking so i can look around the cockpit of my planes because i have no idea thanks nurk 😊

[@KcCake]

Hey nurk! Real interesting stuff here. Have you considered using a stabilizer like the gravgrip rather than a gimbal to save weight and battery? Should work the same if you are pairing it with electronic stabilization

[@NURKFPV]

I've tried a whole bunch of different things, and I make videos about the unique ones when they pop up!

[@malachiteofmethuselah9713]

Nameste, Nurk.

[@NURKFPV]

😄

[@ClarkDroneFilms]

Ideally you want the gimbal on top so you can look behind. Then you can replicate the typical gimbal cinelifter look with a gopro. Bottom mounted battery maybe

[@NURKFPV]

So this mounts up with just the gopro tabs, so you could easily do that.

[@ClarkDroneFilms]

​@@NURKFPV Lots of potential anyhow, can't wait to see what you do with it. Maybe a 7" for some longer flight times and no crash lands? 😁(I suppose you had the 11 Mini on the back, and you could even ditch the gopro and use an 03 in place of the (gimbal) vista)

[@cosmotect]

Whats the problem with putting it down gently when it shows low battery?

[@squnxfisher9831]

maybe a normal 5" has not enough oomph to carry a big gimbal witch gopro and another gopro in the back and that's why the battery is empty so fast. maybe up it a bit and go 6"?

[@NURKFPV]

I definitely should have gone with a bigger drone.

[@AlexG-yo4bs]

So you cant set goggles 2 to autorecord when you take off right????? with vista and air unit

[@NURKFPV]

yes

[@AlexG-yo4bs]

@@NURKFPV Sucks lol haha

[@definingslawek4731]

Are these mechanically balanced at all or are the motors constantly fighting to keep the gopro up and straight?

[@NURKFPV]

It's lazily balanced. It's definitely not perfect but there is a mechanical balancing step for the gimbal

[@definingslawek4731]

@@NURKFPV but there is an option for it the be mechanically balanced? Like it can be done? I just couldn’t tell from looking at it.

[@NURKFPV]

Yes

[@RichardWhiteman-f8w]

Are you running a 7 inch frame?

[@NURKFPV]

Not for this video

[@RichardWhiteman-f8w]

is it a 5 inch or bigger? also the v2 is out and you cna get it in cnc metal, but it is 800 dollars @@NURKFPV

[@aztecjoe29]

Awesome 👍👍

[@NURKFPV]

yeah buddy!

[@mr_pike4609]

How are they with sharing stl files? If I could print replacements myself I would definetly be interested!

[@NURKFPV]

I'm not sure how willing they'd be. I think that those designs are a big part of the product, so I think it's hard to justify releasing those files. But I don't know that for a fact. Definitely hit them up!

[@mr_pike4609]

@@NURKFPV yeah totally get that. A carbon version would be perfect tho ;)

[@SovlaFPV]

Sooner or later these guys will get a Mavic😁😁😁

[@Retrograde99]

What would happen if you would do like a flip or roll

[@junvervasig]

Hey!! been a while!!

[@NURKFPV]

Indeed. Trying to stay on top of it but two kiddos plus work plus videos is not the play.

[@junvervasig]

@@NURKFPV yeah! thats fine kids are hard only at the beginning. you look good btw i guess you're working out! cheers!

[@NURKFPV]

40lbs down! 💪half marathon on Saturday. Aiming for 1:50

[@craighermle7727]

These concept sound awfully familiar

[@GTAVAdventures]

Awesome 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😎

[@NURKFPV]

Yeah buddy!

[@zuhralatanga2474]

Apa yg di perlukan untuk membuat gimbalnya

[@makshay157]

Same setup but that's old I hv made for my client, just this fpv has speed. N flight time issue. Mine is 20min

[@NURKFPV]

Flight time is definitely an issue, but on a solid 7" platform I'm sure I could get some insane stuff happening.

[@makshay157]

@@NURKFPV I m excited to know.. 😊

[@carlosravel]

I wanna put this in my 1/5 scale rc car. Anyone know what vtx and antenna would work with this? I’d probably just have it powered directly from a 6S and bypass my Futaba transmitter

[@georgitushev]

You can print it out in aluminum at Shapeway$

[@NURKFPV]

Solid idea

[@rambozo_fpv176]

Use a stronger material ? :)

[@NURKFPV]

i hope so!

[@checkeredflagfilms]

Not ready for pro-primetime

[@NURKFPV]

indeed. never said it was. But wanted to showcase the development process!

[@BangChief_AllIsOne]

Salute Bradda

[@NURKFPV]

Salute

[@donglinyang2757]

Maybe you should try fly avatar 2 with horizon mode on in manually

[@k-dklv]

fpv steadycam?

[@simplefpv7832]

Can't ship to Korea?

[@timrodriguez1]

Come chase electric unicycle races with me. Perfect use for this gimbal...✌️🤠

[@NURKFPV]

Where when

[@Sir_Hubris]

I used to work with a 'steady cam' (year 2000) ... so I'm supprised it's 'new' with drones! Anyway it looks great! ¶ ; - )

[@NURKFPV]

New at this size and performance level

[@Sir_Hubris]

@@NURKFPVYes reminds me of your other video with the bigger quad 6+months ago! Guess the new M3P can almost do the same!? anyway, looking great! thanks for showing! ¶ : - )

[@nersomy]

Give my son one of your drones ;)

[@谢添翼-i4p]

DJI Inspire 3 in acro mode 👍🏻👍🏻

[@NURKFPV]

1/16th the cost of an inspire 3!

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

Makes drone top heavy in the front so prob more likely to roll over

[@NURKFPV]

indeed

[@justg4547]

Nice hat ;)

[@SuperMerkakis]

Respect for people who experiment and create new things. Please adjust pilot glasses for 3D image - with two cameras, one camera for one eye. It should give a new fantastic feel to the pilot himself, as well as a much better sense of space and objects in flight. ;)

[@NURKFPV]

Ive tried it way back in the day. Didn't really make much of a difference past like 2 feet

[@FlyZoneFpv]

This was awesome Paul . I enjoyed it . 👊🏻🦾

[@NURKFPV]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@LeeFluff]

surely, you are getting to a point you ought to just get an inspire?

[@NURKFPV]

for 16x the cost?