Ducati Monster Cafe Racer Part 10 - Creating the prototype fibreglass tank

#Ducatimonster #caferacer #ducaticaferacer
In today's episode we're using the split mould to create a rough prototype fibreglass monocoque fuel tank and seat for the Ducati Monster Cafe Racer project.
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[@VonPete105]

Bro this is so terrific, can't wait to see the finished thing!

[@forthebold]

Thanks, I can't wait to see it finished myself

[@gabeonelio9139]

You’ve probably seen me before but I’m so stoked to see your final model your work is absolutely beautiful and I envy your patience, I always just get so impatient because I just love to ride more than anything else, I hope the bike I’m working with now turns out half as good as yours

[@awood12345]

You have a lot of work ahead of you! Good luck!

[@forthebold]

And the work has started already, getting a nice finish on it

[@maximebesret6567]

The Ducati Build is so interesting to see. Congratulations on those first steps and keep it up 👆

[@forthebold]

Thanks, glad you like it so far

[@alstone5257]

That's cool, here is A bit of information for you as i have worked a bit with fiberglass; put baby powder on your exposed skin, and it will make it so the fiber dose NOT get all stuck to you, The powder and fiber will blow off and will wash away in the shower. Try it you will love how good it works. The mold looks great !

[@forthebold]

I will be covered in head to toe next week in white powder like a cheap Scarface

[@alstone5257]

@@forthebold lol man i would do the same, back in the day while I worked on a 63 or 64 cant remember Corvette body. and it helps a lot. Love what you are doing. I am not sure i would try it, you are in fact bold. :)

[@motorcyclegarage2307]

That is a lot of work, great to see the process

[@forthebold]

It is a lot of work. And time consuming especially having to leave a full night for the gel coat to cure. But it’ll be worth it.

[@itsdotincdot]

I hope you are able to get all of the resin drips off that bike. The part is coming along nicely. When I used to work as a fiberglass laminator, we would tear the glass mat for smoother layup rather than cut small strips to fit. We also cut as large pieces as possible to increase the strength of the parts, (fewer joints). The glass mat becomes quite stretchy when it is wet-out with resin, and any wrinkles can be rolled flat with a proper roller. So the pieces don't have to fit perfectly, they just need to be large enough to span across the contours and have some trim allowance left over. I probably would have formed that "tank" with no more than 2 or 3 cut pieces. Trimming the finished product with a grinder can be minimized by using a good utility knife just after the resin starts to set, but before it is fully cured. Grinding and/ or sanding fiberglass is such nasty job. Keep up the good work!

[@forthebold]

Thanks for the tips. The whole bike including frame and engine is being sand and aqua blasted after so rah all drips will be gone. Nice tip about tearing. I’ll be using proper shapes on the final split mould and when making the carbon fibre tank I’ll have to accurately cut them to make sure the fibre pattern is one piece. That’s going to be a tough one. 👍🏻

[@COL321]

Shaping up nicely : )

[@forthebold]

Thanks, and started to fill and shape it today also, some photos on Instagram

[@ronfuller9503]

Greetings from Florida, it is going to look awesome. Stay safe during these difficult times

[@forthebold]

Thanks, and you

[@Jarrrow-1]

Great job Anthony!

[@forthebold]

Thanks

[@Frisky_FZR]

Looks good nice work 👍🏼

[@forthebold]

Thanks, it's getting there

[@dillesupersic3316]

That looks very nice, Van Gogh would give his second ear to create this kind of art!!! I love it!!! 😍

[@forthebold]

Ha. Thanks for the kind compliment. But if he would have done that he wouldn’t be able to hear it start up again.

[@tomthompson7400]

Great progress , Ive not done a lot of glass fibre work , so its interesting to watch the process.

[@forthebold]

It's definitely a long process and will be at a holt before getting it into carbon fibre as I have no access to the correct tools until we're all out, it's going to delay the build a little.

[@maximebesret6567]

@@forthebold What a shame... Stay safe!

[@aledwilliams]

A thought... We use Durabuild (rather than a car paint type primer) polyester based, easy to apply (spray or brush), goes on thick or thin, easy to sand, can be polished - good results fast. (No affiliation, just like using the stuff). High Build EZ Primer first, followed by Surfacing Primer to finish.

[@forthebold]

Diolch Aled, I'll certainly try it out

[@Lux158]

A few additions to my last comment (on the last video) if you using these short fiber mats again for the final mold use a wire brush on your precuts.. then you have a smoother transition and following that a better adhesion on the layers above..

[@forthebold]

Thanks for the tip

[@steven8-stones719]

Great job, lots of work!!

[@forthebold]

Yeah, I'm not looking forward to doing the 2 other fairings

[@steven8-stones719]

I can understand you completely! Ive always wanted to make a mould and do something very costum but the amount of work.. and you just confirmed it to me... even i have a friend who does this professionally and offers me his tools and workplace still...maaaybe one day....

[@lewisking6773]

I'm currently converting a 97 m600 to a cafe racer and these videos are helping alot

[@forthebold]

Excellent, glad they're of help

[@JamesCairney]

Honey wax release agent is better for fibreglass moulds than the blue pva stuff, on a fresh job, use about 6 coats of wax and don't buff the last coat of wax off, just gelcoat right over the top. Plasticine is really good for filling cracks and voids in moulds aswell, easier to use than wax filler. I used to make fibreglass overflow tanks for a job many moons ago.

[@forthebold]

Indeed. I’ll definitely be using a softer release agent as the PVA was the only one to hand after making the mould from the clay.

[@myturkishlife1777]

Hi, I would use Upol easy sand for body filler , isopon is a bit old school and hard work , then if you finish in 120 grit you can use polyester spray filler , loads of companies make it this is perfect for this , again finish it in 120 grit or to 180 then 2 pack primer as a surfacer ..wet sand too 600 or 800 and you can wax for your mould ..

[@forthebold]

Yep. That’s the one I’ve got. I just get into a habit of saying isopon as it’s what I grew up with. I generally use upol for my primer too when spraying.

[@myturkishlife1777]

@@forthebold perfect , yes I understand how you can get used to a term, I work in Germany for major car companies , I specialise in exteriors for show cars for BMW Merc etc , and prototype cars , and there terminology drives me nuts 😁 I will look forward to your progress..

[@neophobiagarage1845]

truly inspiring 🤓

[@forthebold]

Thanks

[@bobos245]

I would honestly clean up that mold and finish the surface, and make another monocoque, and apply the fiberglass when your last coat of gel coat is tacky. You'll have less final smoothing to do on the monocoque, have more defined edges, and it will release from the mold much easier.

[@forthebold]

The mould is far from perfect as it has all the imperfections from the clay and when you run your hand over it you can feel waves. I’m a half way through smoothing the prototype already and it’s looking a lot better now with filler and a palm sander

[@DenwayCC]

Awesome man. One piece.

[@forthebold]

Thanks.

[@utopicogarage1168]

Muito bom, parabéns 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷😍😍😍

[@aidendickinson]

As a handy tip for getting an eaiser release, you want to use the PVA after waxing on (and off) something like Partell Paste Wax #2 3 or 4 times.

[@forthebold]

Wax on, wax off Daniel son. Indeed I’ll definitely be using a few coats of that on the actual plug and split mould.

[@ferdinanddj9281]

Like that sci-fi shape

[@forthebold]

Thanks

[@Matt281296]

Oh so you are going to build a KTM Ducati! Bringing the reliability in italian bikes 🤪 love the planned colors!

[@forthebold]

Ha. Yes it’ll be very Kim looking with the frame.

[@fouriejosh]

Hi, why did you go through the process of creating a rough clay plug and then a FG mold and then back to a FG plug and then another FG mold as opposed to just doing it all once. Wouldn't that have saved time?

[@forthebold]

Because the clay wasn’t a good enough finish for a final plug.

[@mohammedmidlaj4623]

🔥🔥👍👍

[@forthebold]

👍🏻

[@nic_actual]

Maybe try waxing the mould (Partall Paste) before applying the Release agent... Learned from Street Bandito's (On KZbin)

[@forthebold]

Yeah I will be on the proper one. Just on this one I only had the pva release agent to hand.

[@nic_actual]

@@forthebold Awesome.... BTW, Keep it up, loving the Content!!!! The Monster is going to be slick!

[@VictorOliveira-uy4yu]

hahahaha this guy saying "Good morning" in Portuguese in the background music was freaking me out.

[@forthebold]

I was told this morning it's what he was saying, at least it's not something offensive like 'get lost' :)

[@VictorOliveira-uy4yu]

​@@forthebold haha i was watching the video at 08:30, just woken up and out o the blue, BOM DIA.

[@robleonard1113]

@@forthebold I thought it was an advery for Bonjela cold sore cream! :D

[@guilhermegaino]

@@forthebold @Victor Oliveira I just come to the comments to see if anyone has noticed this too... haha It's awkward because the guy singing just doesn't seem to be a native Portuguese speaker too. Basically, he's saying: "Good morning! Here we are to another wonderful day on this planet! I love mother nature!" Really sound like he's is saying "Bold" sometimes... I'm just curious, is that why you picked this song in the first place? Oh... And the other guy is shouting something like "I got you, son!" in the background.

[@jasonkristunas9427]

Try using a product called durabuild it's for fine surfacing plugs they do a high build primer and a high gloss finishing coat

[@forthebold]

Thanks I’ll check it out. I have a lot of filling in the meanwhile.

[@bsr952]

How do you make the mounts for the fairing?

[@forthebold]

Hopefully the latest videos show them for you.

[@markfoster6667]

White vinegar helps get that fibreglass out of your skin. It's what insulation installers use after a days work.

[@forthebold]

Good to know, I'll definitely try that

[@ailstedt77]

If you make it out of carbon fibre, does that hold petrol or will the epoxy deteriorate or dissolve with time?

[@forthebold]

If you use the correct resins it will. But as I’m creating it I’m starting to think if an aluminium tank hidden inside will be a better option. Less space but commercially better

[@ailstedt77]

@@forthebold Then if you would do it in carbon with the right resin. Would you do it in a top and bottom half and then fuse them together with resin or would you do an upper and lower mold, fill them with carbon fibre and resin use some kind of airbag/balloon to keep the tank in form to get a unibody tank and when it's dry pull the balloon through the tank lid hole. Which way would make the tank part more reliable? Sorry for sounding like a NOOB but I would really like to do something like this myself.

[@forthebold]

If so it in 3 parts. Top split as it is, then yeah, a bottom part to bond together. Then for extra measure cost the inside with a fuel resistant mixture.

[@ailstedt77]

@@forthebold thanks for the reply, might just do something like you. But I'll keep looking to learn the process.

[@TheKillyourself3]

Good work man ! but u should take care of ur garden hhhh lol

[@forthebold]

Why what’s wrong with the garden?

[@TheKillyourself3]

@@forthebold kiddinn ^^ ur an artist

[@dustyvegas]

Do you commercialise the kit after ?

[@forthebold]

I will be

[@dustyvegas]

For The Bold oh and how much you think ? For seat and fuel tank ? ^^

[@LTraje]

This build is looking pretty sweet. I’m a little more curious on that Honda V4 VFR 750 F motor on your workbench though. Future engine swap?

[@forthebold]

That's going to be a Frankenstein Bobber build, some people are calling it the Frankenbob, I'm calling it the Mongrel

[@LTraje]

For The Bold That’s awesome. I’m liking it already.

[@forthebold]

Who knows how it’ll turn out as it bring squeezed into a CB650 frame which is too small. Along with a Puch 50cc moped tank! There’ll be a video introducing it either next week or the week after.

[@MrFilgri]

the first music says "BOM DIA", means "good morning" in Portuguese (Brasilian Portugues specifically) !! :D

[@forthebold]

Great to hear it's no swearing, Good morning to you.

[@MrFilgri]

@@forthebold nop! its a very "good vibe" lyric! ;)

[@allcartuner]

The mold looks really good. I love the tapering of the seat cowl. I honestly hope you reconsider the orange color for the frame, IMO bright colored frames always seem to cheapen the look of the bike (something that always bothered me with KTMs). Also what's that V4 engine on the bench from/for?

[@forthebold]

I’m pretty set on orange but we’ll see. And yes. That V4 engine is a project I’ll be starting during our lockdown when I run out of materials for the Ducati. It’s going to be a strange Frankenstein bobber

[@michaelkikon7]

I guess this will be one of your best work ...not the Honda’s 😁

[@forthebold]

It'll be the most adventurous for sure, and the one with the most amount of hours put in

[@298CRE8]

If you let the gel coat get tacky then start applying the layers they stick better or prime it with resin leave to get tacky then apply glass it helps alot.

[@user-uo8du1yw4d]

много разговора. мало дела.

[@forthebold]

4 days work for a 15 minute video, I'd say that's enough work

[@benitoeduardo7134]

Y am the first

[@forthebold]

Congrats

[@fabianmartinez39]

Bro use safty glasses that fiber is extrmly bad .... its going good

[@forthebold]

Thanks. 👍🏻

[@triverBY]

Вот это дерьмище-))