Why Do People HATE These Art Styles? (CalArts + Jelly Art Style) || SPEEDPAINT + COMMENTARY

[@SylvesterLazarus]

I remember seeing something about people hating Jelly Art, but I thought they were a person, not a style. It's close to my semi-realism art quite a bit, and I'm sure this can also be really diverse and interesting, people mostly seem to pick out the ones that are the most recognizable.

[@PeriluneStar]

I thought they were a person too-

[@catcactus1234]

It’s not a person but lots of people associate the style with the person who popularized it, which is purrrika. I think the hate amped up quite a lot after she started harassing younger artists by falsely accusing them of tracing her work and telling people who criticize her to “kys”. The style by itself is fine though.

[@yurisa9015]

Lets not forget when the same person who questioned about jelly art being public, they got accused for serious stuff that were false.@@catcactus1234

[@rinyaskyline]

​@@catcactus1234well goddamn that escalated quicker than I expected

[@blumwashere]

i looked at it for 5 seconds and it felt really awkward to look at because I'm assuming their skin is wet asf

[@sunnysunsins]

To point out why "calarts style" is made of simple shapes and such - animation is fucking hard. Using simple shapes and flatter colors helps with that a lot. And to idiots who will bring up "b-but anime is also animation and it's detailed" yeah, but it's also a whole industry and is not looked down upon as "children cartoon" all the time as it's done with western animation

[@kavo1460]

And the animators are also not being treated that good from what I‘ve heard while doing zero research ever… so maybe it’s not bad to make more simple looking animations

[@T0ad_Sto0l]

not to mention they cut down in anime animation such as those exagerated faces with a colour background with just poka dots or stripes as well as people being underpayed

[@tootslootandshoot]

current Spongebob, Patrick Show or those paul rudish mickey mouse cartoons regurally has drawings and animation far above its "cal arts" competition. (I call it beanmouth because cal arts actually means disney cliches) so why do they get the right to be drawn blandly or poorly when my examples shows quality is very possible. Its a bullshit excuse.

[@Gamingpandacat]

anime is still seen as for kids and so on, less than cartoons but still, any animated medium is treated as "for children" and the pitchforks are raised when there is blood or an "adult scene"

[@MCB_2]

They can literally rig the characters which means they don’t have to draw them over and over again so no idea why they still simplify it

[@FemboyKaiSaku]

Liking an art style or not is just preference, why do people feel the need to be hateful and toxic over a different style

[@Frosty_McFrost05]

Because they are losers

[@ArianeEvangelina]

Yeah like I really dislike the calarts style, but I wouldn’t hate on the artist for that 😵 It’s literally always a matter of preference.

[@longislandicedtea6323]

Probably because they themselves have either poor or no artistic skills and prefer to take their anger out on other artists to feel superior to them rather than take that energy to improve their own art.

[@yurisa9015]

I hate the riri because of how toxic she is, love the jelly art style though but hate the person who popularized it actions.

[@mr.shardz7936]

only answer to why is those people dont touch grass that much and r insane

[@disaster4550]

can the art community just let people draw however the hell they want? why do they care? omg I'm so happy I made the decision to keep it as just hobby for myself, I can draw however I want and not worry about what miserable people want from artists, isn't it nice to draw what YOU find fun? Even if its all cute girl portaits, I can do what I want ☺

[@synthellaart1587]

This is just a personal observation but most hate I've seen didn't come from other artists but from non-artists (the customers/consumers so to speak? The "fans"?) Usually also people that have no idea why animated styles prefer to be simple (because animation is f*ing hard) for exalple. I had a point I wanted to add to your comment, I swear, but I kinda just lost it while typing, I'm sorry cncnndxms

[@SillyTopHatFrog]

If someone says “Omg that style sucks” or “you suck at drawing” then they aren’t a true artists. True artists aren’t hateful.

[@MyloCrow]

This is one of the many reasons i dont have many friends, it gets quite annoying about peoples judgment on art styles.

[@user-lr8ow2jg4e]

@@synthellaart1587 Yes but if an art style is so simple that it destroys any artistic value for the sake of production, then you're better off putting in more time.

[@princeofdew8980]

People not liking something you like doesn't mean you can't enjoy that something. You need to grow up and quit expecting validation from the internet, or basically anyone that isn't your family or close friends. It's not going to happen ever. Nobody owes you shit.

[@tinymittensdesign]

I do NOT understand why we can't just look at something, go "huh, I don't like that thing", and then move on. Just...the back button is right there. You don't have to engage with the thing you don't like.

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

The same way you can't get over others don't think like you

[@RuthvenMurgatroyd]

Not true if this dogshit is everywhere.

[@I-ONLY-BUILD-MECHS-AND-DUSTERS]

You and most of the other people here ain't different, just mad about something else

[@Bloopblopblooppossum]

Yes also the more you interact the more you'll get whatever it is so if you don't like it the best thing is to give it a downvote if possible and go to the 3 little buttons or whatever and click 'do not recommend' /'not interested' so that the algorithm understands not to show you more of whatever it is (heck if it's giving false/dangerous info you can even report it without trying to explain to the user why x is wrong)

[@_Minos]

Cause butthurts still demand an explanation.

[@spectrumbots4268]

The Jelly style reminds me of art styles seen in various 80s and 90s anime media, specifically in manga covers. I remember the CalArts discourse back in the 2010s, and I always questioned why Gumball was on that CalArts meme/image since that series' characters have radically different art styles. Regarding the discourse, I couldn't care less about the art style of a piece of media, I want the piece of media to be great and memorable!

[@platinumg.8614]

The funniest thing that even Sans was in this even if like, he is in a game and he can change depeding of the artist.

[@galaxieflora1078]

Honestly what you brought up is a slight issue I have with some of the CalArts artstyle discourse. A lot of times, detractors just cherry pick a few characters in a series who look similar (usually those with that bean shaped face, which let me point out most chatacters with that face shape are children. Children are frequently drawn with rounder and softer facial features since, y'know, kids have softer and rounder facial features irl), while leaving out the rest of the cast, who usually tend to have more varied designs that don't completely or even at all fit the "CalArts style" criteria.

[@aynohalopesdealmeida9932]

​​@@platinumg.8614 the owl house is also been added into the whole CalArt thing for what I seen and just one quick look at it and then Gravity Falls can let you see how ridiculous that is, i think some people are starting to call CalArt to modern cartoons in general (not entirely sure tho) (Idk if I wrote that right I'm spanish)

[@washipuppy]

Before the Cal Arts, there was the Hanna-Barbera style. The studio arguably had two styles - Their more 'realistic' human face style that lead into the dominant style of 80s cartoons and their more beanish, simplified characters that adhered to a set, defined shape language for all character shapes and a set of angles and curves that characters were drawn with. They had specific ways characters were designed to make animation easier, from their head shapes and mouth separation to their clothes - even the way Hanna-Barbera made their backgrounds was a style that grew out of making animation quickly and easily. They didn't look identical, but there was enough of a clear design thread throughout so many of their cartoons that you can tell when something feels like Hanna-Barbera. For me especially, the line between the bubbly, easy-to-animate 'Cal-arts' style and the earlier simplified Hanna-Barbera style is practically a straight line - similar design problems resulting in similar design solutions. But I don't think a lot of people will say that the Hanna-Barbera style was particularly appealing outside of their more 'realistic' take - and I think you might have hit the nail on the head there. The classic, cheap characters are extremely simple and easily marketable, but that kind of just made them seem more clean and corporate. The more detailed designs of Scooby-Doo characters or even something like Johnny Quest or Josie and the Pussycats is what gets artists more excited.

[@mercy5004]

Additionally, I think a lot of people complaining about the Cal Arts style grew up at a time where there were more animation studios working directly with networks to produce shows, at a time when the industry was arguably at some of its most explorative and character designers seemed more willing to take risks. Roughly 1990-2010 give or take. A lot of TV cartoons were still physical media, not digitally animated, however, a number were introducing digital production practices into their work flow, and just generally experimenting with the new tools and concepts they could achieve using either or both digital and physical animation (and 3d). Networks were also FAR more willing to throw tons of money at shows with strange story hooks (Ren and Stimpy, 1991), crazy art styles, show however many episodes to see if people liked it, and then move onto the next. So it really felt like there was this big sea of creative freedom on display, and very few cartoons looked or felt the same...even if design wise they were under the same hand (KND vs. Pepper Ann by Tom Warburton). However, that doesn't mean that this is the norm, or that this kind of creative atmosphere is sustainable in the way it was back then. I feel a big reason the "Cal Arts" general style of animation has become so common place is that as digital tools have now become the norm, as is puppet rigging of these figures for animation, this style is just the best one that takes advantage of the production shortcuts digital media has. It would be far more costly to do shows with majority if not completely hand-drawn animated frames, and would delay release schedules as well...which modern audiences often don't like to wait around for. There's just so many ways to see this issue, even if it still just boils down to people just individually preferring one over the other visually lol

[@SpiderandMosquito]

(Reads title) Because the internet told them to. Sounds like a cop-out comment, but if I'm being honest, it's the most logical answer. Peer-preasure is something nobody truly grows out of, and people are very likely to just repeat what appears to be the most popular sentiment while denying themselves an informed opinion. It's basically a case of "I don't really care one way or the other, but I'm not going to question the phenomenon because clearly someone knows something I don't, so I'll just agree"

[@doukzu]

this ^ for some reason people love jumping on hate trains right now. If a lot of people hate something, a lot of other people will crowd in on this as well, whether it's actually people in that community or trolls.

[@HinataElyonToph]

@@doukzu I mean it’s not even a recent thing. It’s just kinda always been like that with anything (look at all the hate Nickelback gets)

[@sugarzblossom8168]

I don't hate something but I do dislike how it looks and it has nothing to do with how generic it is I have only ever seen a few examples because of a video of people hating on it.

[@Muesli_69]

I definitely agree, I catch myself falling into this pattern all the time. It scares me

[@rainpooper7088]

Ding-ding-ding! Terminally online kids just love being told what to think and go overboard with opinions that really aren't their own. Growing up is realizing that you don't need to have a strong opinion on everything, especially things as inconsequential to yourself as the way other people draw.

[@mushroomocean5177]

I’m definitely exhausted seeing the “jelly art style” everywhere, but I would never go out of my way to bully those who make it. Everyone should draw what’s fun for them so long as no one is getting hurt 👍🏻

[@TheMischievousOtter]

same

[@mallowskycotl]

This was actually really interesting to watch because I never understood the whole "calarts" thing and thought people were just hating on it because of the shows themselves and evil corporate things, I never realized it was actually because of the styles. I for one never really cared about a shows style choices, but rather just the story and characters.

[@xSaraxMxNeffx]

considering the vitriol ive seen around people who draw in the styles of certain games (omori and coffin of alex and lele)...you're not wrong at all. it is in large part also about that in particular.

[@sugarzblossom8168]

Yeah the ghibli movies never wowed me with their at hardly anything has well at least when it comes to media with stories but the thing us they never wowed me with their stories either, they were just okay. I am willing to except a generic style for a good amd intresting story

[@SaiyanGamer95]

People sort of use the term "CalArts" incorrectly anyway. John K did coin the term, but it was mostly used to mock people who tried to mimic Disney's on-model style. If you want to see what he's referring to, watch something like Aladdin, Atlantis, Pocahontas, or Peter Pan. That's what John K meant when use coined "CalArts".

[@mallowskycotl]

@@SaiyanGamer95 ohhhh, yeah I actually somewhat remember hearing that, about the "Disney" animation style and other studios getting mocked for copying it or smt 😭

[@SaiyanGamer95]

@@mallowskycotl Yeah, John K hates on-model animation, which is largely why he hates Disney.

[@BlazeWolf9511]

The funniest thing to me about the cal arts style complaints is that some of the people receiving the criticism didn't attend even Cal arts. Also the shows often times have huge artistic differences between them in regards to how their characters are drawn yet are still lumped together. Steven Universe, Gravity Falls, And SVTFOE don't actually look alike if you look at them for longer then 2 seconds. Both in regards to the character designs, aesthetic and backgrounds.

[@SaiyanGamer95]

There's also the fact that what people call "CalArts" isn't even the correct usage of the word. CalArts is a mocking term used to refer to on-model art/animation. Because John K hates characters being on-model.

[@cottoncatpersonal]

I could only think of "no no no they don't" when she said they look alike overall, ok, the main characters have similar shapes (even then when you compare them in theory of character design, they don't) they are main characters. The backgrounds are so different from one another The other characters are so f ing different. Not to mention the colors used. To anyone who actually watched all of these shows it's extremely offensive to clump them together, specially The World of Gumball that uses so many different animation techniques.

[@muliagem4685]

It’s not abt the style more abt how simple it is, but I don’t pay much attention, I just like watching cartoons.

[@Kuxt0r]

TAWOG literally has like 10 million art styles in the show, only the main characters have the “CalArts style”. that show is not corporate or lazy at all

[@icedriver2207]

I'm not a big fan of this style. Characters have arms and legs that usually seem more like pool noodles. Not a style I want to draw in. That said I understand why animators would lean into this style. Its quicker and easier to draw and the details are often cut down or left out. I don't hate it just not something I would personally want to create in.

[@imst1llaliv3]

ive never seen someone hate gravity falls style and i dont get ppls hate on the jelly art style tbh

[@Kiqd]

Its not the gravity falls artstyle,but the shapes are overused in cartoons

[@imst1llaliv3]

@@Kiqd ohhhhhhhh thank you!

[@thisusserisacat]

The jelly art style is uncanny and boring

[@imst1llaliv3]

@@koviches2681 oh woah thats terrible i did not know that was a thing

[@mittag983]

​@@thisusserisacatThe jelly art style looks like bad ai generated art with the lifeless eyes and all

[@Metal_Traitor]

It's honestly so painful to see, art is supposed to be something natural and beautiful, but not something that should be perfect. People who hate on art styles do not get the point

[@horse9722]

I hate some art styles so much because of see them too much , I don’t get tired in like a month because of a art style but it’s something in the brain after seeing 700+ artists of the same art style , it just gets me bored . I understand why people would like the art but I just find some overrated . ///////summary : brain is tried of slight lack of variety. Also I don’t have to like everything anyways I’m just some guy

[@deathlight4210]

@@horse9722Then find other artstyles ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ You don’t need to be a hater

[@horse9722]

@@deathlight4210 I don’t actively try to hate them , but I just don’t like them.

[@Flippylover_69]

@@deathlight4210Genuine question: Why does the op you replied to disliking something make them a “hater”? Their comment was worded very respectfully, there was no “hate” anywhere to be found. People can have different tastes, and it’s within everyone’s right to make those tastes public. You could say it might make the artists who draw in that particular artstyle feel bad, but I’d argue it’s good for artists to learn that not everyone is gonna like what they make. As an artist myself, that’s just life :/

[@gektoast4968]

I really dislike some art styles, but I would never tell someone their art style sucks

[@mega_sulten]

the jelly art style isn't my cup of tea, but since I'm not a tiktok user the only palces I've seen it is on youtube with people talking about the hate it's getting. I would never want to spread hate, if I see something I don't like I just "keep scrolling" as everyone is getting told to do now.

[@Suited_Nat]

Imo, I think it’s a cool art style. I just personally prefer more stylistic art. I don’t think artists who have the jelly artstyle should get hate though. That’s immature imo.

[@IsabellaMathew]

Your normal human being.

[@DreamyAileen]

@@IsabellaMathew I mean people not liking those art styles is a perfectly normal thing too. What's not normal is bashing on other people for liking it

[@pcenero]

I think it's also a negative emotional association with certain stuff. Young people in the past decade or so are drawn towards anime styles because they look cool. Teachers that want to combat this tend to give the generic, though admittedly useful, advice of telling students to "draw realism before you draw stylistically" then at the same vein say "if you /want/ to draw stylistically draw this [shows calarts]" and not give the student any freedom to choose.

[@HinataElyonToph]

I had an art teacher in middle school straight up tell me to stop drawing anime because anime “isn’t real art”. Thank god my high school art teacher was way more encouraging. I get that realism is useful, but like with the topics of discussion, some people just don’t like it (including me, idk if it’s uncanny valley or what but I just don’t like it for some reason)

[@DreamyAileen]

The ironic thing is that most anime styles are more realistic than "CalArts" styles

[@crazycookie4645]

Funny thing is, it's usually weebs who whine about the CalArts style being generic, even though they're in no position to be talking shit. As you mentioned, the anime style is very generic and rife with things like "same-face syndrome", especially on female characters. Most recent anime especially are borderline indistinguishable from a visual standpoint. Another thing these people who rage over the CalArts style seem to always forget is that the shows who use it are for kids. In addition to being easier to animate, this style is also easier for kids to draw. A lot of teenagers and adults who watch cartoons are very entitled about it and often try to gatekeep kids from watching shows and participating in fandoms, even if kids are the real target demographic. Ergo, these entitled people don't think twice about the fact that a very simplistic art style comprised of simple shapes would be much easier for kids to make fanart of compared to something that is ridiculously detailed. Everyone seems to be under the assumption that every show should cater to them and only them.

[@purebreeds]

also its pretty funny how most shows with the calarts style are ... well, animated. whereas most anime are just barely fluid animation (and some being flat out storyboards).

[@flyingorange2482]

​@@purebreedsIn my opinion, most modern anime arent so stiff like that, Thats more early 2000-2010

[@user-lr8ow2jg4e]

@@purebreeds Ah yes the "more frames equals better animation fallacy" . Dude Probably gets off to those 60fps interpolation videos. Good animation isn't about having more drawings. It's about making each one count.

[@purebreeds]

@user-lr8ow2jg4e those 60 fps edits look like shit buddy idk why youre assuming i watch those (or like them). im pretty sure we all know there are anime that barely have animation at some points, especially those from the 2000s - mid 2010s. I would take the time to explain my opinions and stuff but its the holidays and idrc about discourse :3

[@user-lr8ow2jg4e]

@@purebreeds Holiday over. Yes but even most of the limited animation of that period had more weight and impact than that slop you consider well animated. Look at FLCL which is known for it's exceptional animation. Yet it still has a limited frame count in many scene if you pay attention to the animation. Despite this, it arguably looks better than even Gumball's highest points in it's run. Less frames allows for faster movement and more impact.

[@Urmumlel7025]

I think the biggest reason why "calarts" got so much hate was for two reasons that aren't the style's fault. One, there was a ton of it. Couldn't really go anywhere without seeing it. This is the studio's fault. Two, fandoms tend to only value shows with this style while other shows that dared to look different were basically forgotten or even seen as "bad". 3D animated series had it the worse in these spaces with shows like TMNT(2012) or Transformers Prime, shows that one multiple Emmy's, as being scene as cheap or phoned in. Calarts was an art style that was toxic golden standard and it is less the fault of the style and more the fault of some toxic fans who see their preferences as federal law. This is the fault of toxic fans. Notice a pattern here? Th problem is goofy ahh people. Not the style.

[@themasterofpotatoes9475]

I never new the "CalArts style" had received hate? That's so mind bogling to me because I got into art through a more "anime-esque" style and have been trying to emulate a more simplified "CalArt style" for YEARS. I mean, I suffered from main face syndrome and I had no idea what I was doing aside from "hehe hot anime person is kool", so I've been investigating so many other styles to improve my art. And it's just, shape language and color theory are basic things that have greatly helped me improve? Like, simplicity is good! Especially for animation, but in any context, shape language and expressiveness is something I would've never started improving on if I didn't leave the comfort of anime style and explored big, expressive shapes and simple, coded colours!

[@Crayon_Egbert]

Right??? I have such a hard time trying to make characters cartoony and more focused on shapes😭😭, it's a great feat honestly and the hate is super unwaranted! (Though i find It funny How my art started out simple and gumball inspired, but now i can't even do that nowadays lmaooo)

[@user-lr8ow2jg4e]

Shape"""s"""? LOL this aint the UPA style we hate here. Every thing in the cal arts style is either a circle or curved tube. Yes simplicity can be good and useful in animation with principles and fundamentals in mind. Cal arts throws all of that out the window all for the sake of cutting corners. For gods sake study the UPA art style. It has exactly what you're looking for, only here it won't artistically castrate you.

[@themasterofpotatoes9475]

@@user-lr8ow2jg4e Ooh, I've never heard of the UPA style! Thanks for the recommendation! The path to self improvement is a long one but it's worth it. I'm glad you told me beforehand so I don't limit myself to my comfort zone (round shapes) again.

[@ExtremeWreck]

I think a particular reason for people hating CalArts style(which isn't even the actual style; John K., the awful being who coined it, referred to movies like Iron Giant as having CalArts style) may be due to how people outside of the USA think that California & New York is all of America when they are only 2 of the FIFTY states. Sure, they MIGHT know that there's more states, but they could probably only name California since that's where most of the popular American media comes from specifically. Disney's main animation unit is an exception since they're from New York. Hollywood is located in California & union rules are pretty much set so that only California & New York folk can really be credited. For someone who DOESN'T live in either states(or any of the big 9; Tennessee only has 7 million people as opposed to California's 35 MILLION), it's such a pain in the butt for people outside of North America(or heck, those in Canada considering how bunched up they are up there; climates & all that) to realize that a country as HUGE as the USA has a whole buttload of different cultures amongst different states, just like Japan or China. Whereas Japan for years HAS been able to truly strike at giving their many parts a chance, China & USA have mainly limited what those not from the big parts of the country can do in different ways. Whereas China does absolute tyranny, concentration camps & the like, the USA unions have priced their acceptions too high for anyone NOT from the big states to be able to join & they would HAVE TO MOVE TO CALIFORNIA to get in an industry sometimes. Worse yet is that Hollywood seems to WANT foreigners to believe that California & New York(and MAYBE Texas) is indeed ALL of America & that Tennessee, Idaho, Kentucky(though thankfully KFC exists), Oklahoma, New Hampshire just don't exist. It's disheartening in many ways & it's why I'm so glad I was never into big budget Hollywood movies to begin with, instead veering towards animated media & the internet.

[@DreamyAileen]

Foreigners and even locals tend to forget that the US is less of a country and more of an alliance of 50 countries with a shared language and history

[@DreamyAileen]

I think it's called the "CalArts style" simply because CalArts is the most well-known art school in the country. What people usually really mean is something like "kid-friendly Hollywood animation art style" but that doesn't roll off the tongue quite as well Anyway, the meanings of words can change. Once upon a time "CalArts style" might have meant whatever the hell that John K. guy said it meant, but that's just not what it means anymore.

[@nad3009]

@@DreamyAileen A lot of the reason why that name stuck with haters is because of reactionary movements online being led to believe that CalArts was teaching this style and punishing people for not adhering to it or even rejecting portfolios that didn't include it. There were so many edited pictures and fake stories reinforcing this in those circles that they turned it into a whole crusade against "degeneracy", like progressives are trying to warp beauty and art, which is a narrative they try to recycle over and over and over again when it comes to visual art, music and anything related to women.

[@mahdizrin]

The jelly style has this uncanny effect with the big eyes and emotionless stare that triggers some part of my brain that to hate it i honestly just feel uncomfortable looking at it It's honestly just not a beautiful thing to look at i can't imagine characters with this style move their mouth like something is actually missing or been removed Eeee i don't like it and can't imagine ever liking it

[@artimations3161]

I can handle your opinion, bud. *Pat pat*

[@dawnlumiere8085]

Maybe that could fit in a horror setting

[@cherwhiskey]

it reminds me of a sim mod tbh, and from what ive seen they usually look pretty soulless. because theyre designed to be pretty and nothing more than that

[@SidenkoE51]

oowwww so true 😭😭

[@V6HAVOC]

Besides being "overused and overrated" this is one of the reason why ppl hate it, whenever someone draws in this artstyle its always the same blank face, occasional tears, petite girl.

[@Swe3t_Coffe3]

...I genuinely thought for the longest time that the jelly artstyle was just something related to the brushes you used 💀 Also just to add onto the list of "anime that doesn't look like anime", Baki is also an anime, yet looks vastly different to pretty much anything else in its medium. It's almost as if each artist has their own interpretation and way of drawing that they find comfortable! Great video Drunk Holster Crane Operator!

[@kosmosXcannon]

Baki only really looks vastly different because it's a product of a different era from my quick look at it. Just like JoJo, it was probably inspired by Fist of the North Star with hyper muscles. Pre 2000s I would say there is more character variation in anime because in general more detail was added to the characters. I think since the moe blob era of things like Lucky Star, character designs generally got more simpler. I'm betting part of the reason besides enough people liking it, it is due to cut animation costs.

[@BaobhanloreArt]

I think theres a larger problem with categorising art and how labels are often used in a way with limits us as creators. As a kid I used to always say I had an "anime" artstyle because I was watching anime artstyle tutorials and wanted my work to resemble the generic anime style as much as possible. But over time I found myself stressing about my artstyle matching everyone else's that I ended up losing my individuality. Oddly enough, my biggest inspiration to move away from it was when I did a style study of Lavendertowne and found myself loving the techniques she used. I started learning from a wider variety of styles until I came up with something less attributed to a certain area of art and more just my own. It will likely continue evolving this way as I progress. I think the main issue with the "Jelly Artstyle" is it breeds a culture of conformity. You have to adhere to these conventions other artists established and if you don't then your work isn't valid in the space. I feel like so many artists are being held back from their full potential because they're not leaving these arbitrary guidelines and I fear their work will be left unmemorable in the long run if it continues.

[@Chaos-om4oh]

One thing I've realized, and not many others have noticed is how the "CalArts" style is very similar to early Disney designs, roundness, simplistic shapes, tube arms. Like Mickey Mouse. Also, most people can't even define what exactly is the "CalArts" style... some say the mouth, some say the head shape (which is usually only one or two characters. If you look at the rest of the cast they are varied.) I just never understood it, because ultimately, they all look distinct enough to me, especially amongst their cast.

[@aquaticcatfey]

It reminds me of some of the goofier Fleischer cartoons, too.

[@FruitOfTheFold]

most people are mad at jelly style because puririka ( the one who popularized it ) makes tutorials on their art but when some fan posted art that looked liek hers, she said it was traced ( and it was cleary not )

[@maxis2k]

I completely agree about the conclusions in this video. I'll just point out that I personally don't dislike the look of the so called cal arts style. My beef with the shows that use it is the content of the shows themselves. The writing, themes and tone. It just screams of a marketing committee greenlighting a show because it "looks like Adventure Time/Steven Universe". And when I press people to explain to me why they go watch anime instead of watching western cartoons, they eventually admit this is the reason as well. I can't tell you how many times I've heard people say "Spongebob or Friendship is Magic was the last good cartoon." Most of them haven't even tried watching a new cartoon in over a decade. But it's because they have this cal arts style. They just associate the cal arts style with a certain tone. That's not exactly fair. But the studios are really to blame for pushing that style for almost 20 years. Just like we're starting to see people lose interest in the 3D Pixar/Dreamworks style. Not because of the visual style itself. But because we've had 25 years of the same formulaic Pixar/Dreamworks style movies. And you know...because the last few Pixar/Disney movies have kinda sucked. But circling back, that's why a lot of people dismiss these shows with the so called cal arts style. Because they saw some of them in the past they didn't like. The most common ones I hear being Steven Universe and High Guardian Spice.

[@kariduanimations]

I personally don’t like the jelly art style, for pretty much all the reasons you said it could be criticised for. But even I’ll admit, the people who draw like that are talented and are good at what they’re doing, at least from what I’ve seen. Preferences are preferences, hatefulness is unnecessary. :P

[@wiseforcommonsense]

animation is made up of simple shapes, wow, who knew. but the 4 shows they picked have cool concepts and different looks. TAWOG is so crazy with all the art styles/animation, and the almost water paint backgrounds for Steven Universe were so beautiful, and the simple shapes really helped when we were introduced to all the crazy gems

[@user-lr8ow2jg4e]

And that's all she wrote for the decent ones. Almost everything else was swept under the rug. I wonder why.

[@The80slover4512]

You know what also suffers from “same face syndrome” that I feel a lot of people don’t talk about? Marvel comics. Same body type, same face, just different colors. But I guess they were trying to appeal to the “male gaze” since that was the target audience.

[@hharpu]

my main issue with the jelly art style is that its popular and a majority of those who draw with it almost immediately get popular, which shows kids with creativity to conform and draw a certain way to be relevant in such a saturated community. ive seen countless kids and adults alike ditch their already unique visually appealing style to simply get some likes on platforms such as tiktok. ive also seen several beginner artists put rendering and making tiny details before proportions and fundamentals, making their art look wonky and overall off. of course if you want your style to be like that i cant stop you but a lot of those kids want to become better at drawing without acknowledging fundamentals in the first place. artists such as puririka already learned proportions and fundamentals of how to make a visually appearing face, and to have beginners try to mimic that kind of hard work is destined for disaster, and can in some cases leaves beginners unmotivated and have them quit art all together because they cant draw how someone else draws. TL;DR: jelly art style harmful for beginner artist mental health because cant get likes on tiktok

[@FamiliarlyFrigid]

This seems like a wider issue of clout chasing and not the fault of the artstyle itself

[@hharpu]

@@FamiliarlyFrigid the jelly art style is a gold mine for clout in the community, but you cant just blame the beginners themselves for this. i think its universally desired to be famous/get fame, whether that be on tiktok or any other means, and the art style is accidentally influencing the weaker-minded people that "jelly art style = fame" which is why so many are ditching their own styles to get easy followers

[@HinataElyonToph]

@@hharpu also doesn’t help that society drills into our heads that if it isn’t perfect the first time it’s not worth doing which is why fundamentals often get ignored (because they’re hard! And they ARE hard! And boring. Speaking as someone who also skipped over them and is trying to go back to learning them…and because they only teach the bare bones minimum of those fundamentals in grade school)

[@hharpu]

@@HinataElyonToph i get that they're boring, but you'll notice that a majority of people who are serious about art learn them even if they are "boring", because theyre passionate in art and want to work to get better. not wanting to learn them just makes you look lazy

[@rubyred6608760]

Art style is extremely fluid and can change daily. I think it’s less that they’re ditching their own style, and simply adopting features of another one.

[@luckydogvocaloid]

I find the point about adding an extra layer of unlikeability to an art style giving it extra hate really interesting! The one point I think I disagree with is the fact that the 'cal-arts style' is, in my opinion, pretty versatile in its use; I think Steven Universe, for example, benefits from the simplicity as it makes the characters more distinct and readable (compared to, say, the style used for its pilot). I'd also go as far as to say Steven Universe is very visually distinct from Gumball, who is very distinct from Gravity Falls. I personally find the Cal-arts style more appealing than the jelly art style simply because of this versitility and practicality (since, as you said, the jelly style is often used for very same-y subject matter, being headshots). But all in all, great vid ^_^

[@fogdragon23]

Didn't know Jelly art was a thing but it looks fine. I've read about the associated artist being a troll, but that shouldn't prompt other people to harass/stalk artists who use it or have a similar style. At the end of the day it's just a style.

[@rsacheri4784]

I was mesmerized by the speedpaint the whole video. This is probably my favorite art from you

[@SillyTopHatFrog]

I hate when non-artists judge people. Like, if I want to make an OS in BFB style, I will, and you can’t stop me.

[@_Minos]

You would hate it when artists hate other artists works too. So no matter who the judge is, it will always be unpleasant being judged.

[@SillyTopHatFrog]

@@_MinosYeah, thats true

[@FlipaKrouak-cb7ds]

And if i want my characters to have certain colors or a simplified cartoonish style i do it Like i can't understand why we can't just draw what we want without being worried like that.

[@meijuta]

Artists have just too much power man. Social pressure is all thats stopping them from drawing some unholy shit

[@AcaiMations]

Is this the bfb i'm thinking about?

[@Gamingpandacat]

the sad part is that negative emotions are stronger and gain more traction, if it bleeds it leads, we are all vulnerable to this way of thinking, it poisons the mind and is in some ways necessary, we just need to channel criticism in a healthy way instead of pointing and laughing but the internet has made said pointing very easy and without consequence most of the time. If anything being the target of harassment can sometimes launch your online career if handled properly and is more likely to happen than someone actually liking a thing you made and poured your heart into

[@slumbering_abyss]

oh god people talking about how much they hate the "calarts" art style bugs me so much, i'm so ready for this video

[@EEErmine]

I can't remember who, but there was this one guy who repetitively commented about CalArts being bad and 2d animation being better than 3d, it was so annoying

[@slumbering_abyss]

@@EEErmine geez even though i agree on the 2d thing it doesn't give people the right to be annoying about it, it literally just comes down to personal taste

[@user-lr8ow2jg4e]

And the video ends up explaining how it's visual litter. Hate the virus not the immune system.

[@sugarnekoart]

First of all, I love your speedpaint redraw. It looks amazing!! It is very strange to me that people will go out of their way to harass someone over what style they draw. Like, geez, to have such a huge ego that you think your opinion on art styles is the only one that matters... People make what they like and that's fine. Hate and harassment is not. It's a complete mystery to me why these styles get hated on so much. I wonder if a lot of it is peer pressure, like they think because there's a bandwagon to hate something they should join. Although that still says a lot about the person imo

[@marsoulini]

the artstyle itself is really cool. i just wish people were more diverse with it

[@ussinussinongawd516]

People are diverse, you're just biased frankly.

[@ChimeraLotietheBunny]

Respect for animators as always and the artists with these styles still used

[@Nova7o9]

As I was growing up (sorry, kinda old), Anime got lots of hate insomuch that even today when someone calls my style “Anime-like” I immediately feel like I have to defend myself. I was able to keep drawing despite it, but it did have a major impact on me and my style, and I’m completely aware of it, but it’s still hard for me to really let myself go and just draw freely. 😔

[@rymaix]

off topic but like YOUR ART HAS IMPROVED SO MUCH??!?!?!? the redraw of your pfp omg i love it sm. ive been watching ur stuff for like almost a year and oh my god the improvement is insane. olease take this a chance to maybe redraw the little selfsona thing i'd love to see it in like ur like current idk the word its genuinely so cute.

[@gwynhwyfar1321]

On a different note, I absolutely love how your own artstyle has evolved over the past few years. The way you draw hair and add reflections and shading is so good! It's so lovely and whimsical in a way.

[@DensenbyoOFFC]

I saw people hating on them (the artists) bc they "only draw asian girls" 😐

[@Jetblackbird]

I feel like calling anime art one style is kind of a misnomer- it would be like lumping all western cartoons into one 'style' when they can vary a loooot

[@hasturxix]

I can understand the hate behind the calarts style because that's what all American cartoons look like now. It's not appealing, it exudes a sense of goofiness. It's fine until every animated American show looks the same. Many view it as lazy especially because of the basic bean head and noodle arms. I know animation is hard and it's completely normal that the easier route will be preferred over a more expensive and taxing esthetic. I'm just saying that the disdain for the style is understandable.

[@Megapixel8063]

There’s a Splatoon artist I really like who draws inklings in this art style, but with the jelliness turned up to 11. I love it because it makes them look inhuman lol

[@b1uezer]

I think my problem with the "CalArt" style is that it's used mainly to decrease cost at the expense of ingenuity. Of course, if you look at some of the work from Cal Art, there's some pretty unique student pieces that are actually pretty refreshing. I really categorize commercial animation here more as "Western" and the style doesn't make every show that uses it bad, as Gumball, Gravity Falls, and Steven do some great things outside of the animation (story, characters, etc). However, when you look at the overall range of camera shots, poses, action, they all tend to stay within a very "safe" range that never pushes the complexity quite like anime does. This is a common theme among Western animation in general, and leaves me with a really bland taste compared to the dynamism of anime or anime inspired animation (like Avatar and Castlevania).

[@lucymiau5700]

Right, the West lost years on time to adapt their own qualities on modern animation over this stupid Beanmouth phase.

[@CampingforCool41]

That’s more an issue with funding. Those fancy smooth animated shots you see in anime cost TONS to do. Plus the western animations do actually have their own handful of really amazing shots. But animation is expensive af and studios can only do so much. Besides for every amazing anime shot there’s 1000 shots with low frames and barely any animation happening. It’s a problem everywhere.

[@user-lr8ow2jg4e]

@@CampingforCool41 Yes but while the frame count may be lower, each frame looks a lot better than the tweened shot in modern animation. More frames ≠ better animation. Better animation is making each frame count. Less frames can also show more impact.

[@ladyolinden]

Thank you for this video! I've seen plenty of the "CalArts style" hate before and always felt it shouldn't be something people get mean and bitter etc over but can prefer or even quite dislike if they feel that. There's a way to do it appropriately which many online miss. I hadn't heard of the Jelly style but actually quite like what you showed of it here. Although I can get how it gets boring to people, but nice art of pretty girls is a point I'll likely never complain about more of XD

[@ThatOneLadyOverHere]

The fact that Gumball is lumped into Calart 😆 Maybe Gumball's family are, but the whole show isn't.

[@Xanadu_VII]

and I mean, they're family. a family tends to look alike, not at all times, but biologically in facial structure and etc.

[@samankucher5117]

the 90s comic art style was hated too but now the scratchy inked art style is ok now because of chainsaw man and jjk 💀it just comes and goes .

[@MissusO]

I do not agree with your statement. I would not describe Chainsaw Man as having a sketchy art style. The manga has smooth lines, and the anime is done using rotoscoping/CGI, so it typically comes out looking more smooth than rough. For JJK, the manga does have a sketchier look to it quite frequently, but the use of it in the anime is not as evident. If you're thinking of the most recent episodes, that was more due to MAPPA not giving animators the time to polish their work.

[@samankucher5117]

@@MissusO i disagree in part only because it's true csm has smother lines for outlines usualy but when it comes to rendering and clothing folds and even face expressions it is all sketchy most of the times from what I've seen :)

[@julialikesrocks...]

To those saying the cal art style is ugly is just not true yes it is simplistic but most animation is and shows like amazing world of gumball have scenes that are truly beautiful feats of animation within it and features a wide variety in styles if you actually watch the show using simplistic shapes for the most part is ideal as it allows for these cartoons to be produced consistently and for scenes to really stand out when you notice extra time and effort. to say that because it’s simple it low quality just shows you have not actually seen these shows

[@user-lr8ow2jg4e]

Everything other than gumball usually end up looking stale, stiff and cheap compared to most stuff in the 90s and 2000s and anime. Most of these shows end up having the most generic un interesting plots.

[@gde4036]

I don't like them because they don't appeal to me visually. I hate them because I've had people DEMAND that I enjoy both because my lack of enjoying it somehow stops them from liking it, even though all I've ever said, or ever will say on the subject was "It's not really something I enjoy"

[@ollieVeroli]

Simplicity always makes animation a lot easier. Back then there were various styles as well, Disney, Looney Tunes, and Hannah Barbera. I think people should just appreciate the art and stop with the elitism.

[@J.MahargJust]

I always will love Centaurworld do to how well they blend the anime style with the "Cal Arts" Style. And honestly, when a show with the Cal Arts style has darker themes or a more mature or detailed story, it often stands out to me more anyhow

[@zinzolin14]

Personally, I'm a little repulsed by this style of art, but I'd never attack an artist for their artstyle. NO artist ever deserves hate for drawing in a way they prefer. I really do think this is a current-age phenomenon to be loud about hating minute things just to feel better about yourself.

[@SoloAnima1]

As someone who doesn’t like jelly as an art style (but doesn’t complain), it looks like the only creature that could’ve drawn it is a horny eldritch horror

[@TheDeerBird]

I'm sad, because cartoon styles are what heavily inspired my style. I mainly incorporated adventure time into my art style, especially with the landscapes I make, and I even animate similarly to it and similar cartoons. It's unfortunate that people pay so little for it too, I've hardly been able to do any commissions and whenever I manage to get people to comm me they pay like 3-5$ USD

[@nilladrawsstuff]

I honestly just want to say "you dont have to look at it" to those people. Girlie no one is holding you at gunpoint to look at a certain artstyle if u dont like it then dont like it and stfu 😋

[@Ohmygod_neilciccerega]

As someone who doesn’t like the jelly art style, I can actually confirm I WAS held at gunpoint and forced to scroll through 100 jelly artworks every single day for a year by my own family. But my story is unique lol so it might not be true for everyone

[@EmnM2010]

One thing I notice about recent cartoons, notably the ones in CalArts style, is that they have sparked a new golden age of animated storytelling and character development. Compare Gravity Falls, Star, and Amphibia, for example, to the OG Silly Symphonies. The focus back then was on the art style, because the technology was cutting edge; so there's an emphasis on how the squash-and-stretch animation syncs up flawlessly with the music, but the story (when there is one) is simplistic, dialogue minimal, and characters very flat. By comparison, over the last 15 years, Disney has essentially taken a bunch of complexity points from their animation stat and moved the to the story and character stats. The focus is now on telling good stories about the interesting shenanigans of compelling characters, because less emphasis is put on the marvel of animation. It's not the wonder that it used to be, but that's not necessarily a BAD thing. It just means that that different aspects of the medium are experiencing their time to shine, and a new era of talented animators and writers are setting the next standard. Remember that painting styles went from super-detailed, highly realistic portraits to abstract chaos and impressionism during the world wars, but we hold both styles in high regard today. Art do be like that, sometimes.

[@vulpiixfoxx]

Honestly, imo, if you wanna draw in the jelly art style, I think that’s perfectly fine and no one should stop you. But, I personally just don’t like the art style because all the characters drawn in that art style kinda look a little too emotionless to me lol. Idk, I just like art styles where the emotions of the characters can be more easily conveyed.

[@morgantrias3103]

Anime is a bit broad to be called a style, but anime style, gets a shittone of hate. I'm really surprised to hear someone argue otherwise. I see people hating on anime style and people who draw in those styles getting reduced to just "anime" and lamenting the hate they get for it all the time.

[@mamorosmalna]

As a young artist I can only say that it's RIDICULOUS how people hate on art styles. I just want to bring in a show which is featuring this "CalArts" style. (I never knew this had a name and it was associated with Tumblr..) So this show is Deadendia/Dead End: Paranormal Park. Maybe some of you already heard of it. The majority of hate comes from people who are just simply annoyed by the sight of this art style. I even made a post about this on Tumblr, that it's so hilarious how people hate on a show because of this. It hasn't got the perfect writing, BUT it has good lmbtqia+ and mental health reps. It just really pisses me off that people constantly complain about how bad and cringe this art style and color palette is.. Like.. it was supposed to be a kids show? What do they even expect??? Everyone's saying that "artists support artists 🥰" UNTIL they see this type of art style. And it just hurts how the creators actually work hard to come up with all the characters, all the designs and they get THIS... That is certainly not support. As I said, I think it's a really stupid thing to hate on an art style - and it's unnecessary too.

[@katwim9169]

I like your voice. It sounds very mature and elegant

[@ilikecookies230]

It’s so strange the hate of artstyles. I’m just drawing then people suddenly hate an artstyle😅 and I just shrug and bury my face into my work again.

[@cocoaheart8402]

i think the main reason people hate on the jelly artstyle so much instead of is more because of the controversial person who popularized it rather than the actual art style itself. It became heavily associated with that artist and as a result, many came to hate on the art style as well. this is Not to say that any of the reasons you listed arent valid, because they definitely are

[@elizabethrobinson4595]

Honestly, the Jelly Art style can actually really be expressive... "Jelly-like rendering gives faces an appealing or squishy appearance, with sparkly eyes. However, some perceive it as making faces look slimy, sweaty, or sticky, with watery eyes that almost make the subjects appear sick. Additionally, the anime-like proportions drawn in a semi-realistic style can evoke uncanny valley vibes, something I can definitely understand." - Duchess Celestia. You could use that as a certain sickly person! You could use that for somebody getting out of water too or sweaty or sticky. Revealing to the audience that something is wrong with the character even if they couldn't tell. It's really interesting.

[@shaii5526]

It doesn't matter why they hate it because it's still stupid, is an ARTSTYLE, why do people care so much?

[@landdreugh9955]

This artstyle reminds me off a certain artist that has been drawing somewhat like this AT LEAST since 2014. Their style further developed into what you could call Jelly Style avant-la-lettre in 2015 and they might have actually INVENTED it. Also, 5:45 , yes. Yes you CAN draw a tough-looking gruff dude in a dynamic pose in this style. Previously mentioned artist has drawn some VERY grufff-looking slabs off muscle that mesh seamlessly with the style. One major difference with the art that get so much hate is that this artist draws a diverse variety of facial expressions, body types and poses. I think the Jelly Style gets a lot of hate on TikTok, because the works feel like soulless regurgitations that add nothing new or do anything exciting with the style.

[@lovebug4817]

idk what it is abt the speedpaint in this video, but i just love the art so much!!! it looks so soft & something about the face?? idk it just looks super super pretty

[@_mirary_]

End of the sponsor > 2:40

[@froggycolouring]

Thank you 🙏

[@dr3dg352]

I'll never understand not liking the Gravity Falls art style. I know it's a preference thing, but I especially never understood why some creators were recreating Gravity Falls scenes in the anime style. I like some anime, but these alternate styles don't fit the story at all imho.

[@Escalusia]

People have preferences. I, personally, tend to not favor styles that are adopted in general. I prefer when someone develops their own, instead of seeing another style and copying it. Hence why I also dont like much anime. The hate is so needless though, its all about aesthetic preference, and some adore anime art, some adore jelly and they should absolutely do that!

[@anwyll9212]

I'm not a particularly big fan of either of these art styles, but if someone is and/or wants to draw like that then whats it to me, I can simply just not follow them or look at their art and leave the people who do like it alone

[@pemanilnoob]

If anyone says GUMBALL is a generic style cartoon, I’ll KNOW they’ve never watched it lmao

[@OO0RI]

I mean with the points about animation, there are trends in artistic interest - but also in finances. Animators still aren’t paid enough, and thus, can’t afford to go fully all-out in their work. It’s the reason people are like “they put all the budget in this scene” when it’s animated a bit “better” (aka, usually a higher framerate) - and that’s why calarts style is a crutch. It can be a valuable base to make simple characters so it’s easier to make work and earn that capitalist coin 🤷‍♂️

[@carebear3120]

Now I want to see big tough guy in jelly style

[@becomingpotatoes]

i had no idea there were people who were mad over an artstyle thats easy to animate thats kind of dumb ngl

[@jenniferroling2050]

I love the bean shape and I won't apologize for it. People need to go touch grass. Draw what you want. 😁 You wanna draw bean shapes? Go for it! Wanna do jelly? DO IT! Wanna put sharp chins on every character? DO IT! CREATE! Just go create!!! Fight the algo, ignore trends, do what you want! But for the love of art, DO IT! ✊😁✌️

[@Cursedkitty314]

TL:dr Like what you like, here is my take. Popular opinion on the internet, goes one of two ways. Its either shoved down your throat, or is completely hardline against. Thats just what the internet does. While I am an anime fan, I like diversity in different art styles in the mediums I consume. Like, as an anime fan, obviously I like the anime art style, but I'll admit that a lot of anime looks similar. Anime studios love trends, because making uniform looking series is better for the bottom line, and a lot of Japanese studios are risk averse in order to keep the lights on and the top cats happy. Not too mention, the rather trash way they treat their animators. I've never really disliked the "Calarts style". Shows like Gravity Falls and Adventure Time really brought me around to a more simplified art style which allows for more cartoony elements like the use of squash and stretch and also a wider variety of colors that can be used to paint a scene. As for the Jelly arts, I'm not a fan. It just boils down to hitting that uncanny valley for me, and honestly that is the only real reason I have against it. It's a fine art style in its own right, I just am not a fan of semi realistic styles.

[@DrNanite]

i like the jelly style. i didn't even realize people didn't like it.

[@TheBestComicKing]

It's just whats trending right now. Back in the 90s, Rob Liefeld or Todd McFarlane style over exaggerated and chaotic artwork was hip and happening, and they had their share of criticisms. Same with when in the 2000s when anime and manga were getting more exposure, everyone tried to imitate that style.

[@rinnne_]

also just mentioning this too!!! I think a huge reason as to why the jelly artstyle is under criticism right now is a hugely popular artist on tiktok made tutorials for this style and then got annoyed when other people used her tutorial to emulate the style?? 💀 but anyways I do think it’s unfair to generalise the whole artstyle based off one bad person but that’s just me

[@BuraiTributeKing]

8:19 "it doesn't get this kind of hate" nowadays. Anime had luck that in the early 2000s social media wasn't a thing.

[@Deedeedoodad]

I saw a few comments on TikTok of people saying that the reason the hate the style is because the original creator of it is an arrogant teenager 😭 i don’t know her username but I’m pretty sure a lot of the drawings in this video are hers. I think the style is very pretty tho imo. Like slightly creepy but I know I would’ve ate it up when I was like 13-14

[@HinataElyonToph]

I heard it was someone who just popularized the style who got pissy at a teenager for following tutorials that she made and claimed the teen traced her work

[@cilantr0qez77]

To summarise everything, the original artist that popularized this style (Puririka) was problematic and bashed a 13 yr old artist for thinking they traced her work when it wasn't the case, and sent a hate mob at the kid which caused them to delete their account. it's insane how all of this wouldn't have happened if she just settled this privately with the kid in the first place 🤦

[@mk-aka-morgan8386]

The Jelly Art Style genuinely confused me, people were upset because it was popular and a popular jelly art style artist had some questionable actions, you can say the same thing about anime art but I don’t see people feeling the same way about it

[@andrewc406]

"anime art wasn't hated as much as this" - cue nam flashbacks of drawing fanart of anime and being called slurs and told howd id never make it as an artist by teachers and other artists-

[@marywinters3754]

Jelly art style is not so ugly, but it can easily trigger the "uncanny valley".

[@mallosteric]

People mostly hate the lips in "Jelly Art". Pretty and boring is bad enough, but the lips are rendered with the proportions of people who have lip injections-- the middle of the bottom lip is curved in because the filler doesn't fit. Someone with naturally larger lips is usually going to have a bottom lip that's big in the middle too. A person with plastic surgery is someone that's working with what they got, making decisions for themselves. A drawing with plastic surgery comes off as fetishy or as commentary, and both of those can be unsettling and uncanny and that really puts people off.

[@1erickf50]

Tbh, my only gripe with Jelly Art as a style is that, besides the weird mix of semi realism and anime proportions, *the blushing coloring tends to get so oversaturated around the face that the nose obtains a Rudolph effect* and not in a good way. I don't mind much of the puppy-like eyebags tho...

[@lordjaraxxus5418]

The only reason why I don't like the Calarts style is that too many modern cartoons use it. It makes them all feel to samey compared to those of the pas. At least Gumball uses other styles/mediums for other parts of the show to stand out. The rest don't do enough to stand out on compared to the other shows that use the style. I blame my bias on earlier Cartoon network shows having a more distinct style between them.

[@ilyrayya]

I get that people dont like puririkaaa but bullying and bashing every artist that draws the jelly art style is so messed up. Its not fair that a bunch of other artists are getting hated on because of something ONE person did that they had nothing to do with.

[@bellakatearts]

i don’t hate it at all, especially because nothing about the style is “new”. the only reason i take issue with it is when i see younger/beginner artists learning to draw these kinds of art styles so early on. you NEED to learn the fundamentals first. i only have this issue because i did the same thing with similar art styles in the 2000s/2010s and i was woefully unprepared when i started art school. i basically had to relearn how to draw. of course though, most people don’t draw to be professional fine artists, so just doing one thing really well is fine for most artists on the internet.

[@DarkSoulx7]

if I don't like something, I usually keep it to myself. Like Granny always said "If you have nothing nice to say then don't say anything at all." But I'm only human so it's hard to always stick to that.

[@frostybootz]

calarts: *picks bean head* FrostyBootz (me): *round head otherwise softer shape*

[@Chocoboranger]

Its not hated because its popular, its hated because its corporate grey goo commonly linked to bad or ugly shows. Its unfair but thats the meat of the matter.

[@ThatOneLadyOverHere]

Anime style has gotten more hate than anything else. In high school we were not allowed to draw in anine styles in art class. It's hate just predated the internet and so it's one that is intrenched in the culture and one you see rebelled against online instead of actively started online.

[@sylvurrlights]

i’m not one to really hate on art styles, i just can’t really stand looking at it. but people who share that opinion and run with it like TikTok users are nuts. just because you don’t like something does not warrant you to bash it like it just committed a war crime.

[@cheezemonkeyeater]

I'd have been indifferent to the "CalArts" style if it wasn't EVERYWHERE. I can point out all the reasons I dislike the style, but that would be missing the point. If it's just one style of many, we get variety. When it becomes the default every animation studio leaps on for half a generation because it's just super cheap to animate, that's when I begin to loathe it.

[@Rascalzzz]

I’ve always loved calarts art style, it is pretty and does the job About jelly tho..

[@sporovid5856]

As an artist, I would never discourage someone from doing what they love. But at the same time, I get a lot of satisfaction out of hatred. As a red-blooded AMERICAN 🇺🇸 🦅 I reserve the right to hate on anything for any reason. And that goes for my own work too! If you post publicly, then be prepared to take the heat. 💪