How To: Convert ANY bike into a fast E-BIKE! **DIY ELECTRIC HUB MOTOR KIT FITTING GUIDE**

[@tazerface8659]

For anything over 1000 watts, especially in an aluminum frame, you need torque arms on both sides. They are not just a failsafe or an afterthought. They are crucial to your survival. Preferably not the universal torque arms supplied by the kit manufacturers because those don't really work. You need torque arms that are one piece and either bolt directly to the frame/dropout or can be hose clamped. The universal torque arms will not stop rotation enough to keep your dropouts from breaking. The best thing to do, if you're good with DIY is make your own. I say again, torture arms are a non negotiable.

[@Chim539]

I know this is a dumbass question but I can’t find it on google, what are torque arms

[@tazerface8659]

@@Chim539 well, the motor's axle has flat sides that index into the bike's frame/dropouts to prevent the axle from spinning instead of the wheel. The alxe wants to spin the opposite direction of the wheel and a great amount of torque is applied to the frame by the axle. Torque arms are basically bars of metal, one side has a hole that is the shape of the axle and the other side is secured to the frame. This takes a lot of torque stress out of the dropouts and spreads it out making sure that the axle doesn't rip out of the frame or spin free of it, shredding the hall and phase wires of the motor.

[@Chim539]

@@tazerface8659 thanks

[@tazerface8659]

Torture arms 😂

[@petrezw2349]

Also i filed the frame so the axel sits further in the dropouts

[@jsmith6259]

Thanks Pitbull for teaching me how to fix my back love you bro

[@WeDontEatTheSameTV]

😂

[@yetijohn80]

Best build Video yet ! Shows all the common issues people can have during their first build 👍🏻

[@DudeStuff]

@@yetijohn80 Thank you 😎

[@Gadgetdad007]

I thoroughly enjoyed this video Steve, you need to make more of these extended videos and also give that camera man a pay raise. Top quality. 👍🏽

[@hugopnabais]

Nice gear for that experiment. Good shoes and gloves for sure!

[@irish....2197]

Been watching dude stuff on and off last few months... I get a kick out of this type stuff.. Nice bike

[@MrRaymond1021]

Fantastic job on putting that Ebike together. It looks amazing. I do like the color. Thanks for sharing. 👍👍👍

[@dazaro3]

Another great video,you definitely got better at building e-bikes since your start on KZbin, round here in Birmingham police are stopping ebikes and if home made or more the 250watt ,15.5Mph they are taking the bikes and getting done for riding an illegal bike, we got to be very careful now.

[@andy-the-gardener]

most of those riders probably only have themselves to blame for not looking like a normal cyclist enough and being too blatant with the power and speed in the wrong places. going obviously too fast uphill or through pedestrian areas is asking for police attention. wearing motorbike style clothing and helmets is a red flag too. as is a lowered seat post and not peddling or hard enough for the speed. the ones who get away with illegal ebikes probably look like an ordinary cyclist and use the power rarely and wisely

[@dazaro3]

@@andy-the-gardener Yes you are totally right,that's exactly how I ride my ebike,I mostly use my e-bike on the canel,if I'm on the roads I use only pedal assist only and upto about 15-20mph and only go above that when on canel when it's clear ,i have gone past police when on the canal and never use throttle or even pedal assist , pedal power only,I say just use common sense and like you say if blasting down the road at 45mph you are asking for trouble from the law.

[@colin2490]

That's fukd bro , coppers git nothing better to do, go get the crackers, leave us ebike enthusiasts alone , Here in Australia 🇦🇺 it's OK 👍 as long as you stay with traffic where helmet and have lights there's some nice LED Ones about that I use , ok happy days my ebike mate 👍 and I'll hope to hear from you. Colin . A.K KEN. D.

[@rey_nemaattori]

@@andy-the-gardener I'm my country it's mostly fat bikes the police are after, since most youths have a fat bike doing 35+ mph without peddling... I'm glad I chose an MTB, although the main reason was the more sturdier frame. I added a rear rack and saddle bags, hiding the motor. Haven't been stopped once in over 3000kms. Within city limits, I drive sensibly with only PAS 1 or 2, or around 35-37kmh, which is slightly faster than (e-)cyclists, but not as obviously fast like a moped. As soon as I hit the open road outside the cities though, I go full throttle.

[@DudeStuff]

I hear a lot of people saying this, I think it's happening more in major cities like London and Birmingham they're cracking down.

[@tysondunstan7467]

Thank you very much mate awesome video helped me fit my 1500w kit i like how you explained everything in such detail 👍

[@robintaylor3860]

Fun building ebikes, I've been building since 2015 again. Battery technology advancements make it feasible. I have a couple dozen currently and don't see me stopping anytime soon. Cheers bro

[@RaysBikes]

Always enjoy the builds! From a cross the pond, I gotta say having a British accent makes it very entertaining 😂. I have no idea what a jubilee clip is, but I know what a hose clamp is.

[@DudeStuff]

😂😂😂😊

[@brandonortiz93]

​@@DudeStuffdo you have anything extra laying around that you can donate to me for transportation because my gotrax flex scooter was stolen because I left the key in when I turned it off now I'm back to walking everywhere again wich sucks can't afford another one would really appreciate it anything will help please live in buffalo ny

[@jaysteele4660]

been watching a few of your videos for last few weeks now planning to do this to my bike and can’t wait

[@Dave64track]

Great video enjoy the longer videos. That's some bike it looks great keep up the great work.

[@andrewwarriner4964]

really enjoyed the longer video

[@benholley6226]

Watched the whole video like I watch all your videos, I see you down the sea front a couple of weeks ago but you was going to quick for my 500w kit 😀 keep up the long vids mate... Love them 👍

[@DudeStuff]

@@benholley6226 🤟

[@DaVinci0963]

I'm brand new to E-Bikes. It was an extreme pleasure watching you use your expertise to build your new "BEAST". THANK-YOU for explaining your handy tips to get everything in alignment! If you haven't done so before, and if you have I'll find it, could you demonstrate how to do the final adjustments to the gears and brakes? I really enjoyed this video. It's the first time I've seen your channel and I'm subscribed. Fantastic video!!! Thanks again!!!

[@chrisliddiard725]

Great Build. About that exploding tire, the hub motor wheel should be checked for protruding spokes. It's wise to have a tire liner to protect the tube from the spoke ends. I would also recommend green slime fluid inside the tubes to seal small punctures and a decent puncture-resistant tires like Fincci or Schwalbe Marathon Plus.

[@jsmith355]

A very NOT annoying video and cool presented. Thumbs up

[@kevinhansford3929]

I fitted a mxus 3k turbo hub to my giant revel frame with a 60a controller and a 72v 40ah battery and it's mental! Iv had 50mph out of it before I bottled it and slowed down 😂

[@TheBigwesb]

I've had 48mph outta my old Trek X-cal Gary Fisher Edition 29er with 2000w rear hub motor, sabvoton controller, 52v 28.8ah battery & KT-LCD8C display.

[@chrismartin6427]

That must have been one steep Hill ​@@TheBigwesb

[@TheBigwesb]

@@chrismartin6427 why's that?..... It does 22mph up hill lol my pal owns it now as I've just built a full suspension with dual motors.....1500w rear hub & also a TongSheng TSDZ8 Mid-drive 750w. 😉

[@chrismartin6427]

@@TheBigwesb because there is no way you're getting 48 mph out of a 2000 Watt on the flat mine does 40 on the flat and does 25 up steep hills and I've managed to push 44 mph down a steep Hill that's why I said it must have been a steep Hill to get 48 miles an hour trust me I know I've had two mtx hub Motors both 2000w the first one I had struggled to do 36 on the flat and the new one I've just bought from kirbebikes does 38 to 40 on the flat

[@DOPE_SMOKE]

do you reckon i should dual my 2kw or upgrade to x1 3kw?

[@lucagraham345]

Loved this video mate, very informative....nice bit of kit, and definitely what I'll be purchasing for my conversion...loved the longer video 👊

[@140-Mo]

Top class tutorial mate, would love to see a mid-drive one next

[@BeEhUmBLe7945]

Man, i just stumbled on your channel. I'm grateful i did. good job on that bike , that was insane.

[@kingneptune8937]

Great video and very well explained.

[@waleed.alhumaikani]

It's a relatively long video, but I enjoyed every second of it Steve! You have such accumulative experience that makes this looks easy mate :)

[@kristiancorlett6080]

Lovely the builds buddy ... you've opened my eyes E-bikes ....keep up the good work 🚲🚲🚲🚲

[@carlalan1880]

YEAH LOVE THE LONGER CONTENT

[@DudeStuff]

😃

[@minds5]

Got my today, its frikin awesome!!

[@Nymeriathepup]

How much did it cost

[@stevetaylor8446]

Love the longer content videos, gives me plenty of time to enjoy the virtual ride out with you and to pick ip some hints and tricks in depth along the way. Another cracking video mate, Best wishes as always from Bromley, Kent 👍

[@DudeStuff]

@@stevetaylor8446 that's awesome thanks 😊 I grew up in Orpington in the 80s

[@stevetaylor8446]

@@DudeStuff Me too...til 81-83! Small world Steve mate👍

[@DudeStuff]

@stevetaylor8446 was there from about 86 to 88/89 and the storm of 87 the road around the corner had so many fallen trees it was front page of the daily telegraph!

[@stevetaylor8446]

@@DudeStuff I was out in both...the first at night and the next one during the day...the second one was Me on the roof of the stables, nailing down the corrugated roof in 115 mph winds 🤣 I've been in Chislehurst since 88. You ever get over this way still?

[@Avatar711Wizard]

Brilliant video bro. So easy to follow the steps and understand. Great that the website is now in Aussie dollars too. If I ever buy/build a bike I'll definitely get one of these kits. I know they are quality. Always nice to see the sun out over there too!

[@muddymarvellous]

That's crazy, always wondered how they were fitted ..love my red Engine x...comfy

[@Mike_5]

Very very useful video on fitting these serious bits of kit the only downside is you need a Rottweiler with you to prevent the Local Youth from taking them if you pop into the shop with it fitted

[@Anygodwilldo]

Yep I converted an ace Andy Kirby bike but it got robbed 😞 Another - better - one will be built soon tho 😀

[@Mike_5]

@@Anygodwilldo Build back better!! thats the way every time

[@TheeMuseumofjunk]

@@Anygodwilldo My bike isn't too flash but it always gets left locked to something with a serious OnGuard D lock, I can't really afford another bike :)

[@rayDJ.AbdNas]

​@@TheeMuseumofjunk converted a Boardman MTR 9 with a cyc x1 pro kit, need a proper serious lock for that one, I use a hiplok dx1000

[@toxicfuze8393]

The break trick is clever iv not heard of that one before

[@k1ortia]

They are called jubilee clips, due to the brand name product of the Robinson Company , also known as worm gear hose clamps, worm gear clips, or hose clips in other countries...😉

[@Blizardof84]

Just the video I needed , either I do my customised mtb like this, or I'm getting an engwe m20, thanks for the info mate, good video 👍🏻

[@DudeStuff]

@@Blizardof84 you're welcome 😊

[@ytuberization]

Fantastic video, many thanks! Would appreciate to have a video with the same level of detail for a 2000W conversion.

[@DudeStuff]

I already do there's a couple on the channel

[@lassydogpie5390]

Scroll back he did a three part video about an hr long.. I used that one 😅

[@jmhodge12755]

Fantastic video great content I have been following you I live in the United States you have been very helpful

[@DudeStuff]

@@jmhodge12755 appreciate it 🙏

[@michaelc.davila4882]

I like the combination you chose and overall great build

[@dennyvatavuk4618]

Dude you're killing it my name's frosty and I sure would like that bike that is a beauty you just knocked it out of the park You covered all the bases very easy to do wow you made it look easy anyways I appreciate everything you're doing for us people out here that aren't as good on bikes as you are You covered all the bases very easy to do wow you made it look easy anyways I appreciate everything you're doing for us out here that aren't as good on bikes as you are Anyways Cheers my brother And keep the rubber on the ground

[@DudeStuff]

Thanks a lot dude keep an eye for the next project soon codename 72v 😀

[@gregdavies8259]

Good video dude ill be using your guides when i decide to do my bike. Just need to save up for the gear.

[@beatsentertainment2347]

I like your work bench it's clean and unique. Also that bike is fast 😳

[@CRAFTSMAN_254]

One day i will afford these bikes😢. For now i can just enjoy them from a distance. I really love your content cant wait for the next vid.

[@Mosely2007]

Nice video . Just got a Salsa Tributary. Its a blast. Heart issue , dr. Sayd get an ebike o r quit riding. Im 74 been on bikes most of my life. This allows me to set up another gravel bike. Youre given me ideas. THANKS😊

[@Harh1.34]

That’s fast and also looks good I broke my bike while doing deliveries for uber probably gonna get new one after one year ❤

[@Andrew-gh3rm]

Good video , well Illustrated

[@upgradeelectricebike]

Nice build mine does 70+ I'm using a 3,000 watt Gt motor 72 v 300 A controller 0- 60 6 seconds

[@TW1STED79]

This bike is insane, amazing

[@TW1STED79]

@raymondo162 if you don't like the channel, stop watching his video's

[@dappa-s8u]

Excellent tips you give and information the bike looks so good👍Your Dog looked impressed as well lol🐶👍

[@DudeStuff]

@@dappa-s8u 🤘🤘🤘

[@peteraitchison7175]

This is very helpful I've been looking at making a lil project like this. I'll defo be doing it before the end of the year 💯 cheers boss 💪🏻

[@blayne8653]

That bike looks amazing ypu always do an amazing job clean and easy to watch 🤘

[@colin2490]

GREAT VIDEO I REALLY ENJOYED WATCHING IT I GUESSED CORRECTLY WHEN I THOUGHT PUT SOME RUBBER BETWEEN THE BATTERY AND THE FRAME. TOP JOB LOVELY COLOURED BIKE TOO , SOMEONE IS A LU😂CHAP TO WIN IT , . THANKS PLEASE KEEP MORE VIDEOS COMING. MUCH APPRECIATED FROM YOUR NEW EBIKE MATE COL FROM AUSTRALIA 🇦🇺, GODBLESS THE QUEEN 👸

[@arahant69]

Nice vid,new to bikes,new to conversions,total newbie and loved watching this and hope to get one when I can afford it. Entered the raffle cheers,arahant.

[@Jack_Warner]

I've got that same bike. I bought it in 2017. When I looked at the cost of converting this using Kirbebikes, I was astounded that they charge £450, for a bleeding battery. The total cost was in the region of £800. As I've just experienced problems with Chinese components, I haven't gone any further with it.

[@Kalvlogz]

Everything’s from China lad

[@Jack_Warner]

@@Kalvlogz Doesn't mean I'm going to buy it. Chinese products have a short life span. I don't mind if the product is dirt cheap, but there's no way, I'm paying £450 for a battery. I bought a new chainsaw in 2017, for £80, and although I've put a new carburettor on it, it still works. The carburettor cost £9.

[@wackedoutdude]

​@ATV-London Sadly quality batteries are expensive to build. The cells are very expensive and a battery contains many of them.

[@Kalvlogz]

@@Jack_Warner still from China😂😂

[@Kalvlogz]

@@Jack_Warner surrons Chinese, the parts that make these expensive e-bikes are all Chinese only because it got put together in some European country doesn’t mean it’s not Chinese

[@tinkersdug1969]

Just subbed thinking of getting ebike so thought I'd check out your channel glad I did that was informative.

[@deviceu]

Fun project, thank you for sharing! Safe rides!!!

[@paullawrence8572]

Great skill! Really good vid!

[@DudeStuff]

@@paullawrence8572 Thank you 😊

[@horacehaynes4540]

I’m 71 years old and haven’t ever had a e-bike before but would like to try one to get some exercise and be able to get back home, you have great advice and I would like to try to build one for myself, thanks

[@DustinShaw-f4c]

dude, really good video. that bikes sweet. looking for a bike to do it to right now!

[@jamesireland9188]

Really enjoyed the content cool build have a good day and stay safe Jimmy from North Attleboro Massachusetts.

[@johngatland]

Brilliant build video, very informative...

[@paulharford2880]

Entered raffle, what a bike love the channel mate 💪

[@DudeStuff]

@paulharford2880 thank you so much appreciate it ☺️

[@adrianarroyo4858]

A dual 3000w motor build like the dual 2000w you built, would be freaking awesome!

[@georgiana6598]

Very good and easy to follow. It's also you lad, you are showing me how to fit actual brakes and so it's just a frame and you are going through the gizmos a bicycle diyer needs to know. Coochums ❤

[@georgiana6598]

Ahh I love u 2 Coochie xxx Watch my speed! Waaaayooo.

[@pauljones881]

Is right mate to take time an effort to show how great an electric bike can be. Especially recording it to show all the effort an total instruction to at a t. I'm to poor to have anything like that I only have a small 500w I made from bits.

[@warrenkenneth33]

Cool deal, nice looking bike and battery my 5k moter is down and half my bike burnt away because of polymer lithium. Never use polymer lithium they should be illeagel. Thanks for Video have an all merry peace.

[@MAREbfex3]

Thanks for all men! You are legend! 😊😊

[@livesatellitestudios]

Great to see Grant has a new gig now after Eastenders

[@L10c_232]

Nice video! Looks like so fun. It i han the Money to i Would defenetly get one for my self to test and make a KZbin channel. But great video appreciate you showing the assembly of the bike.

[@losbastardosmtb]

This is what I’ve been waiting for .. just gony get comfy and tune in 😎

[@DudeStuff]

😊😊

[@likeher9]

Brilliant video Steve, what a beast build. PS: I also love the longer videos. Steve I've tried to send you a photo via a link of My build with a triangle battery, I have figured out how to secure it to the bike - very neat and 100% rock solid. Please let Me know how I can get this photo to you mate Daron

[@jamesgreen1337]

Love the build mate

[@zepp3lin]

I enjoyed your video fitting that motor hub and the battery plus controller. Too bad its illegal in my country, we are only allowed with a 25km/h pedal assist Ebikes.

[@losbastardosmtb]

Mate we love your full videos .. hope I can afford this battery in the next week I get 46 mph private road 🤦🤫 on the 52v , people say for the money I could get better but I don’t care what they say I’ve done over 10,000 now on the kirbe 52v kit and if I email Jason or Charles they still get back to me a year later after purchase 🙋‍♂️ for anybody reading I emailed about an error code , I hadn’t noticed I broke my throttle dropping the bike against a railing .. the bar went through and cracked the throttle and tore the cable out so replaced that for a tenner off eBay cause I was skint at the time and wanted my bike working .. I thought I’d maybe broke the controller Jason said replace throttle first and try that .. 😎👍 works fine to this day just broke my last camera mount so no videos for over a month ,

[@losbastardosmtb]

And he told me to replace the throttle because of the error code I told him , it saved me a lot of rubbish guys legend from other side of the world haha

[@mortensen117]

Dude, your instructions are very fine and detailed. Very fine -- and it is nice to see some new parts mounted on something. Taking a wheel apart --- have seen that before. There is no need to go through all the tools used, is a bit too much. Regarding a tube -- you do not throw it on the ground where you walk, because it may pick up small stones or dirt which -- if the tube is not cleaned -- ends up making a hole from inside the tire. No random throwing-around with tubes which you intend to use, please. Regarding an adjustable spanner -- you are using it wrong to loosen the sprocket. I know it does not need too much force, but the fixed jaw on the spanner is supposed to take the load, it becomes serious in other situations where bolts require much more force, say, when used on things beyond a bicycle. Jaws are not equally strong, do not take an equal amount of force. Google "correct use of an adjustable spanner", see the drawings. Disc bolts .... torque wrench and if you want to be a good mechanic. Tires -- except keeping the direction, it is sort-of an unspoken rule to align the visual label(s) on the tyre with either the lables on the rim or the valve. Usually, the valve hole in the rim is aligned with the labels stuck onto the rim, in this case some very noticeable "MTX39"-stickers. If a tyre has white, visual labels on both sides of the tyre then they are aligned, possible opposite, never placed random.

[@JosephSmith-se3wm]

I am poor and this is what I’ve been wanting for ages

[@johnoirie]

Awesome build.

[@jayfarber4251]

If the have threadlocker you need to head the bolt to release it.

[@stephendonkin5497]

Enjoyed this mate

[@Daniel-i2g3t]

Good stuff dude stuff

[@danielmacdonald3130]

maybe stick the price in the title next time, may as well buy a surron with cost and effort. Maybe mention when its a paid promotion too helps people make a genuine decision! Banging bike tho nobody can lie edit: subbed after comment, there is no hate, liking the channel overall

[@ridefast0]

I have had two e-mtb back-wheel punctures in two days, thorns, luckily I have mid-drive, with this bike just imagine the hassle of changing an inner tube by the side of the road!

[@mlhm5]

Giving you an A+ - great video as always.

[@DudeStuff]

@@mlhm5 Thank you!

[@AN4MER]

wish you did more riding at the end however it was enjoyed never the less 😊

[@johnerbudman123]

Nice video these are faster but I prefer your usual builds allot cleaner looking 👍🏻

[@DudeStuff]

@johnerbudman123 hard to make 60v and Crazy stuff as tidy as the 2000w without maybe some custom fabrication

[@CazSmith]

@@DudeStuff get a printer for custom cowlings. You could knock up a StreetHawk replica in no time.

[@stabbawivagun]

Great video buddy 👍👍👍

[@JamesBrownJr.]

Yes, the longer vid's are best. More details less mistakes!

[@DudeStuff]

Mistakes? 😄 Got a 1hr cracker about to upload 😊

[@livingladolcevita7318]

Saw your review of the 500w ebike seems this might be the size for me as I am looking for something to flatten out the hills.

[@tomt8692]

Yes ❤the longer watches 👍

[@camdizzlethe1st]

Thanks Steve, great video 👍 best E-Bike diy video I've seen. QUESTION, - Why don't you use the V12 PAS? Thanks for all your work, I've really learned a lot from you. Blessings

[@DudeStuff]

@camdizzlethe1st Thank you! I prefer the variable control you get with a throttle and no brake sensors. PAS can give you all or nothing and brake sensors cut all power suddenly even when you lightly feather the brakes. So for better, more precise control of my ride

[@arranodoherty4372]

Using throttle only kills your battery .halfs your ride time . Pas is much better option and using throttle once up to speed .if you don't wont full cut off just don't use brake sensors . Also police will notice you throttling at 30 mph without peddaling

[@andreluistomaz3930]

Ty, man! Loved it!

[@ArchieCharleston-js2ry]

Love the video bro

[@yovonneotto2669]

Top man , thank you

[@siov4279]

sweet routing job also!

[@norbert4787]

Firstly, its 1000/1500 max-rated motor (9c clone) so it's not very healthy to feed it 3000 watts-it won't work very long or be very power efficient. Secondly, most frames I was working on had to have the standard 9 mm dropouts filed so the 14 mm axle fit deeper and more snugly without any vertical curve gaps-there's not much aluminum there anyway, so every little bit helps. Lastly, the torque arm you used is very weak-you need something bolted to the frame on both sides to be safe in the long term.

[@DudeStuff]

@@norbert4787 how is it 1000watt max rated clone 🫣😂😂😂😂

[@alexanderheron1702]

New subscriber. missed out on that awesome 3000watt raffle would have helped keep up with the son😂.smoked that 2000watt in your slides 👌

[@DudeStuff]

@@alexanderheron1702 😂🤘

[@alexanderheron1702]

@DudeStuff just binge watched a few videos. Love the ebike stuff trying to save my pennies too buy one and I know where to look

[@josephrcollins]

thanks for video, watched andys the other week also. would upgrade but only had the 2000 a month and they need to build a way the battery slots in. perhaps some mountings you attach to the bike so it can slot and lock like the 52v battery, its not going to be any good for the majority that will want to whip their battery off every night and charge , etc.

[@DudeStuff]

@josephrcollins too big for just the cycle m9unt bolts imo.. I also think 60v isn't for everyone it's a bit extreme anyway lol.. 2kw will always be most popular for a long time I think

[@josephrcollins]

@@DudeStuff appreciate your reply. Always like your vids, subscribed etc.I agree, if people are gonna buy this kit, they want to get their bikes alarmed and ultra secure and out the wet so it can be charged of an evening. I still think something could be engineered in the future but yes it's a lovely bit of kit. Also think the 2000 is far less likely to attract the wrong kind of attention. Good stuff though, cheers

[@mlroser83]

Thanks for the information great video

[@brianwayne7999]

Love the build video's.whats the price on that 3000 watt kit

[@DudeStuff]

@@brianwayne7999 checkout kirbebike.com link in video description

[@cedricrandall7377]

Liked this one!

[@adwilks1988]

I'd like to see you convert an assisted ebike, andy kirby has recently done one. Good video 👍🏻

[@Paivaeste]

Well explain for people Well done