Dumbledore’s Big Plan: Chamber of Secrets Edition

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@manodipanmahakuda5630
@manodipanmahakuda5630 6 ай бұрын
About the Quirell and Lockhart theory, Hagrid mentions "there was a nasty bit o' trouble with a hag, NEVER BEEN THE SAME SINCE. SCARED OF THE STUDENTS, SCARED OF HIS OWN SUBJECT -" A stark change in behaviour, this could be a lead into this theory.
@riluna3695
@riluna3695 6 ай бұрын
Oh dang, fun theory has legs to stand on? That's always when the best content gets made. I hope the fact we haven't seen a video from them on this yet doesn't mean it'll never come. I'd love to see what a deep-dive into the story makes of this idea.
@LOVEMUFFIN_official
@LOVEMUFFIN_official 6 ай бұрын
Like Lockheart makes Quirrel more susceptible to Voldemort by already messing with his mind.
@aliceepalermo5047
@aliceepalermo5047 5 ай бұрын
Maybe Lockhart disgusted himself as a hag to wipe Quirrel’s memory without anyone seeing it was him!
@manodipanmahakuda5630
@manodipanmahakuda5630 5 ай бұрын
@@aliceepalermo5047 good idea, but I don't think Lockhart has any disguise skills, more like he modified his memory to look like he had trouble with hags instead of whatever he did with trolls
@itsallme1234
@itsallme1234 6 ай бұрын
Without Dobby closing the barrier, Ron's wand is undamaged, and Lockhart successfully wipes Harry and Ron's minds, leaving Ginny to die and Diary Riddle to resurrect. Pretty grim, actually.
@hackmxn
@hackmxn 6 ай бұрын
Glad someone else thought of it too
@jmace2424
@jmace2424 6 ай бұрын
Or they get eaten by Aragog.
@AshleeKnowsNot
@AshleeKnowsNot 6 ай бұрын
Oh dang.
@kayleighlehrman9566
@kayleighlehrman9566 6 ай бұрын
Possibly not; unicorn hair wands are said to be particularly loyal to their wizard, so Lockheart attempting to use Ron's wand against him, without having won it's allegiance, still might backfire anyway
@johnkovarik1053
@johnkovarik1053 6 ай бұрын
I was listening to this in my car and felt the need to pull over to write this comment but then saw that you had already written it. Good stuff.
@c0urtn3y526
@c0urtn3y526 6 ай бұрын
Snape and McGonagall scene - when Snape sees Harry, the look of relief on Snape's face is only there for a second... I really appreciated Alan Rickman's acting in this part. Once you realize the emotional implications in the book and you rewatch this part of the film, you pick up subtle nuances like this that makes watching the movies on repeat worth it.
@boilerfan18
@boilerfan18 6 ай бұрын
In the Pottermore page for Lockhart it says Dumbledore knew 2 of the people whose life’s work Lockhart took credit for. I like the idea that the werewolf book is one of them.
@kimberlygordon93
@kimberlygordon93 6 ай бұрын
Ron won't have detention either without Dobby, having his wand broken and the slug spell backfiring, he won't spend the whole night cleaning Tom Riddle's award knowing the name and finding out about his service to the school.
@nathanelb721
@nathanelb721 6 ай бұрын
And eventually Lockhart will use the wand to oblivtiate the boys
@gecormac
@gecormac 6 ай бұрын
Dobby is MASSIVE in chamber because if they do not crash the car, Ron's wand is not broken and Lockhart probably just erases the memories of both Ron and Harry which will end the story right there
@modelomegatyler
@modelomegatyler 6 ай бұрын
they also die to the spiders because the car isn't in the forest.
@mienfu9824
@mienfu9824 6 ай бұрын
SCB have actually already done a video about this very thing. Weird that they don't remember it.
@emma_704
@emma_704 6 ай бұрын
Gosh, I was screaming at the screen "Ron's wand! Ron's wand!!!" lol
@menachemsalomon
@menachemsalomon 6 ай бұрын
"Harry has his mother's eyes." And the eyes are the doors to the soul, by which it is implied -- and I think this may be the author's intention -- that while Harry looks like James, and in many ways has James's skills (Quiditch, DADA, etc.), he has his mother's heart. He is kind, and considerate, and likes people like Hagrid and Luna. His personality is more like Lily's, who was friends with the poorly dressed boy from down the lane, and less like James, who found every opportunity to bully him.
@WKP1996
@WKP1996 6 ай бұрын
Really like your bonus episodes with Dumbledore's big plan. Thanks for being a podcast that I've listend to as it released. Feel so weird at the start of Chamber it was snow and now we are one week from Summer!
@maximilianosalvador9559
@maximilianosalvador9559 6 ай бұрын
It's funny how they discuss whether Dobby is pointless for the first time... Despite having made a video called literally "Is Dobby Pointless?" in their main, 9 months ago... And they conclude the EXACT OPPOSITE
@JahanMisra
@JahanMisra 6 ай бұрын
yeah that makes me wonder how much of the scripts they write themselves nowadays. i always assumed they were the writers and the other members of the team were just helping out with other stuff but maybe that isn’t the case (not that there’s anything wrong with that)
@mienfu9824
@mienfu9824 6 ай бұрын
@@JahanMisra I think it's more due to the fact that they've done hundreds of theories now, and they just don't remember them all.
@spencercorpuz
@spencercorpuz 6 ай бұрын
I've often wonder if they're just throwing stuff at the wall with these theories. They're usually making pretty big reaches when it comes to this stuff, especially the Harry in Slytherin series.
@JahanMisra
@JahanMisra 6 ай бұрын
@@mienfu9824 I’d think going through the chain of logic again would remind them of the hours they spent writing the script for the video. plus they came to a different conclusion this time
@iRazenrak
@iRazenrak 5 ай бұрын
I'd say Dobby isn't useless, just easily replaceable. Ron doesn't HAVE to have his wand broken in the car crash, there're a myriad of ways he could accidentally break it. Harry and Ron don't HAVE to miss the train, and Harry doesn't HAVE to be in the hospital wing from Dobby's bludger. He could overhear Pomfrey's conversation elsewhere, as this series is full of coincidental run-ins and eavesdropping into conversations.
@scottdevault4175
@scottdevault4175 6 ай бұрын
Don't ask . Harry's kids calling hagrid grandpa just popped in my head and made me smile .
@patriciablakeslee6851
@patriciablakeslee6851 6 ай бұрын
53:30 y’all need to read the comments because the grapes thing is a common British thing to bring to people in the hospital 😂😂😂
@gamer_dude94
@gamer_dude94 6 ай бұрын
It is possible that Dumbledore was using legilimency with Lockhart and knew that Lockhart is a fraud that way.
@ObsessiveGeek
@ObsessiveGeek 6 ай бұрын
Possibly…though I do like that he knew at least one of the events from the person themselves that gets erased and thus is keeping an eye on Lockhart and decides he will do just fine in teaching Harry about being humble.
@YaBoyNick1
@YaBoyNick1 6 ай бұрын
Theory idea and if they want to talk about it in the Q and A. What if Harry hired Dobby after Chamber. Why does he have to go out into the world for several years looking for paying work when Harry (whose not really on a budget) can pay him to live with him at the Dursley’s, secretly of course, or have him stay at Hogwarts right off the bat? He could have helped look for Peter pettigrew, he could have helped he might have been able to follow crookshanks to find out he was working with Sirius at the time. Just spouting off things here, but think this could maybe be something.
@Gnarlf
@Gnarlf 5 ай бұрын
Interesting Idea. Would tge ministry permit a house elf in a muggle household though? If yes, harry wouldn't have gotten into trouble for underage magic anymore, since there is a known magic user on the premise. It would also have severely altered the Dursleys behaviour again, since that got worse, after they found out Harry can't use magic. It might had prevented the Aunt Marge Incident -> Harry wouldn't take the Knight bus -> no expeliarmus on stan shunpike -> no golden flames revealed to voldemort -> voldemort not seeking out the elder wand It would change quite a bit on the main plot alone, not ro speak of all the side plots.
@maja-kehn9130
@maja-kehn9130 6 ай бұрын
I´d love your take on a story of Dumbldores years as a Hogwarts student. That would be so epic. I think the last triwiard tournament might have been even during his time too.
@nerwen24able
@nerwen24able 6 ай бұрын
In one of the last episodes you asked how it is for people with another mother tongue than English. I am from Austria and so German is my first language. For my eleventh birthday I got the first book translated into german. So I read all the books in German except the last one (this one I only read in English). Then my English was good enough to read them. Later I reread all of the books in English. And now when I talk about them I can't remember the German words for the special words in the wizarding world, eg. snitch, bludgers, ... Some words were "translated" to German, others not. In the book that I got for my eleventh birthday Sirius' last name was translated to "Schwarz" (german for black), in the later books he was called Black without the translation. I needed a very long time to make the connection because of that. Even after the scene in the Three Broomsticks. 😅😅
@riluna3695
@riluna3695 6 ай бұрын
That's a fascinating story :D Thank you for sharing.
@acleamofhope
@acleamofhope 6 ай бұрын
Same for me! I am German and read book 1-6 in German when they came out. My first English read was Deathly Hallows because a good friend of mine, whose mother is an English teacher, was able to read book 6 before me and told me about Dumbledores death 😮 so i wanted to be prepared to not get spoiled in book 7... Got back at this friend ten years later - i read book 5 of game of thrones while she was only watching the series 😏 so i could tell her a little bit about Jon Snow. She called it even after that 😅
@nerwen24able
@nerwen24able 6 ай бұрын
@@acleamofhope being spoiled that is really mean, but you got your revenge 😜
@Frenchiesfiberfiles
@Frenchiesfiberfiles 6 ай бұрын
Without dobby Ron doesn't break his wand and Lockhart successfully wipes their memory and Ginny dies and Tom riddle comes back
@waynelipman8558
@waynelipman8558 5 ай бұрын
Without Dobby, Ron and Harry don't need the car and therefore most likely get killed by Aragog's family.
@TheToneBender
@TheToneBender 6 ай бұрын
Dumbledore using the sword against Grindlewald would absolutely make sense, because it could overpower the Elder Wand
@jb888888888
@jb888888888 6 ай бұрын
I'm just glad J found some pants.
@lindabroer8995
@lindabroer8995 6 ай бұрын
You guys are mixing up movie lore and book lore when it comes to Tom Riddle. In the movie Tom speaks with Dumbledore. In the books Tom speaks with professor Dippet instead. Therefore, Dumbledore isn't seeing a parallel in the conversation with Harry when he lies to Dumbledore. I'm sure Dumbledore knows Harry is lying, but there is no relation for Dumbledore to a previous conversation with Tom.
@MarieGarrett.
@MarieGarrett. 6 ай бұрын
52:51 it's a British thing. At that time, bringing grapes to someone in the hospital was something you did for a loved one or friend.
@shhimreading906
@shhimreading906 6 ай бұрын
honestly i'm now just thinking about how quickly the story of chamber of secrets could have been solved if dobby had just gone to tell dumbledore that "not NOT he who must not be named" was going to make terrible things happen at hogwarts. like wbk dumbledore would've got the hint straight away
@WildWolf-hc4ug
@WildWolf-hc4ug 6 ай бұрын
I never noticed that Snape knocks the Carrow’s out! Amazing detail!
@cjg8763
@cjg8763 6 ай бұрын
Come on Lockhart, "Dances With Werewolves" was right there! 😆
@justinbroderick7843
@justinbroderick7843 6 ай бұрын
So, I'm currently catching up on a backlog of episodes and am listening to Chapter 17 right now and had an epiphany... what if Salazar Slytherin built the Chamber of Secrets because he was secretly a maledictus and didn’t want his friends to know he was slowly changing into a basilisk? Is this some old fan theory that I've never heard before and was discarded long ago?
@thirteenthandy
@thirteenthandy 6 ай бұрын
I was just watching Chamber again and it struck me how the "multiple Voldemorts" problem would be solved. If the diary Tom Riddle got a living body for that piece of soul, the piece of soul you call "Voldemort Prime" would simply rejoin that body. Those pieces of soul would not be repaired, as he would not go through the process of genuine remorse to repair his fractured soul, he would just be in the state of 16-year-old body with a fractured soul just like the moment he murdered Myrtle. He would be able to either live with a fractured soul, or to create a new Horcrux whenever he wanted to. The only thing that would have caused a conflict would be if two separate pieces of soul managed to get inside living bodies at the same time, but that never happened.
@filip5010
@filip5010 6 ай бұрын
I think that in the wizarding world it's been known for centturies, that the rightfull place of Gryffindor's sword it's in the headmaster's office. It dissapears from there, when a true Gryffindor needs it, and returns after it's used. It explains that Dumbledore hide it there and was sure it wouldn't dissapear somewhere else, when it's time for Snape to give it to Harry. So if you are a Gryffindor and you go to Dumbledore's office, and you need the sword in brave or desperate curcumstances, you would be able to pick it up and use it.
@RobinSijtsma
@RobinSijtsma 6 ай бұрын
Congrats on your first sponsor on the podcast guys!! 🎉
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 6 ай бұрын
Dumbledore has a plan. Dumbledore ALWAYS has a plan
@skyward7895
@skyward7895 6 ай бұрын
A quality reference
@danielkopcha2011
@danielkopcha2011 6 ай бұрын
Yes he does but is it for his benefit. Example SCB: Dumbledore’s big plan regarding the main books during Harry’s time
@austinbosovich6130
@austinbosovich6130 6 ай бұрын
I get that reference!
@TheRiusaki500
@TheRiusaki500 6 ай бұрын
Dumbledore The iron headmaster
@EddyMcG
@EddyMcG 6 ай бұрын
I keep shouting at the screen when you guys miss something very ovbious that you do not mention. In the chamber after the basilisk is blinded but still chasing Harry, Harry puts on the sorting hat and says "help me, help me". That is when the sword appears in the hat and hits Harry in the head. Why the head trauma I do not know, this is something for the Carlin Bros to ponder. This fulfills Dumbledore's statement that "at Hogwarts help will be given to those who ask for it." I saw this as I was reading the chapters along with the pod casts. BTW, I love the pod cast you give so much insight to the books.
@UnfazedPhoenix
@UnfazedPhoenix 6 ай бұрын
They already talk about this in DETAIL in the Heir of Slytherin chapter, the episode before this.
@amymelsoner5775
@amymelsoner5775 6 ай бұрын
Fellowship of the Phoenix
@SullyDunn
@SullyDunn 6 ай бұрын
The fact o fell behind my almost 12 chapters is crushing. To catch up it will require 12 hours lmao. Love the channel and the commitment to the plot keep up the good work
@alexmfjudd
@alexmfjudd 6 ай бұрын
Also dobby teaches all three of the trio about how house else have been treated and the thing that tips the scale in hermoines loves for ron
@ThiqqqRiqqq
@ThiqqqRiqqq 6 ай бұрын
the way J said "Ollivander?!?" had me giggling
@simunjiii
@simunjiii 6 ай бұрын
Well to the importance of the car I would like to propose a theory of mine, that it is actually Dumbledore, who is making the car drive inside of the forbidden forest. He could have heard Hagrid suggesting that they should follow the spiders and waited for them there like he did with the mirror in the philosopher’s stone. He might not want to approach them if not necessary and therefore use the car. For the arrival of Harry and Ron it might be possible that Snape was send by Dumbledore to have a look out for Harry and Ron as they were not in the train / at the feast. That fits with Snapes chair being already empty, when they arrive at the great hall. It would be therefore possible that Snape made the car drive into the forbidden forest from a distance to stop Harry and Ron from doing something with it and other students from seeing it.
@SpizzyRich
@SpizzyRich 6 ай бұрын
Hey, Brother! Jay, I moustache you a question: would Dumbledore know about Quirrel's time studying trolls, say, during the summer, then say Quirrel returns with no recollection of it. Would that give him cause the next year to hire Lockhart, with knowledge of his modus operandi?
@ambiverter
@ambiverter 5 ай бұрын
Love the pun !
@NoahJohnson-g2k
@NoahJohnson-g2k 6 ай бұрын
How heart breaking would it be to see a scene with a young Gilderoy visiting an old Newt….
@Tophadoodledoo
@Tophadoodledoo 6 ай бұрын
Appreciate J with the Salty Dog sweater during the sponsor spot; a lot of good memories on Hilton Head.
@Mallymile
@Mallymile 6 ай бұрын
Why would Dumbledore have to have donated the phoenix feather for the wands before The Duel? I don’t understand that part
@CathrynLundeen
@CathrynLundeen 6 ай бұрын
I know Fantastic Beasts doesn't make any sense, but what if Fawkes isn't Credence, or Corvus. What if it's Ariana? 'A son cruelly banished' could refer to Dumbledore being 'trapped' inside Godric's Hollow after his mother dies. 'Despair of the daughter' Ariana. 'Return great avenger with wings from the water' Fawkes could come during a time of need for Dumbledore literally out of water. I love the theory of phoenixes being past Dumbledore's who've died coming to aid the present ones, and I think Fawkes being Ariana holds more weight due to her relationship with Dumbledore.
@hufflepom
@hufflepom 6 ай бұрын
I have a way too long thing written about this very idea that I plan to give the brothers when I see them at the live taping. are you cool if I include your notes (with credit)
@CathrynLundeen
@CathrynLundeen 6 ай бұрын
@hufflepom oh yeah sure thanks!
@deannahall8308
@deannahall8308 6 ай бұрын
The "Pre"-Order was right there guys 18:14 lol
@Crashburn711TeamXtinction
@Crashburn711TeamXtinction 6 ай бұрын
Not to mention Dumbledore fell in the same category as James and Sirius, he was about fame and it caused him so much pain
@wrdreads4742
@wrdreads4742 6 ай бұрын
The extra edits of close ups when each is talking, intense, well done to the editors!!!!! It does get a bit jarring near the end.... But eggcellently done! Most of the time, I think it's great, maybe some of the close ups for one-word responses could be wide shots with a little buffer to slow it down a little bit, speaking as someone with seizures.... Though I do understand the thought process, and it was a good idea that really added an extra level to the video.
@MyBookStory
@MyBookStory 6 ай бұрын
HP ALWAYS! The mustache J! lol. Also, loving this alongside content!
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 6 ай бұрын
Amazing! Thanks For this! Love it! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@saltshaker1118
@saltshaker1118 6 ай бұрын
Something I just now considered while watching this. Why does Dumbledore not consider the prophecy fulfilled when James and Lily die? As far as the prophecy is concerned, Mouldy Voldy comes to attack the Potters, Lily dies to save Harry thereby giving him the power the dark lord knows not. Mouldy marks him as his equal with the curse and then 'dies' half a second later due to the sacrificial love and meaning one died at the hand of the other. I could be missing something but I'm pretty sure the prophecy be lookin' awfully fulfilled, especially because Dumbly doesn't figure out the horcruxes until at least Chamber of Secrets.
@IdaSantti
@IdaSantti 6 ай бұрын
But he didn't really died, Voldemort says so himself
@saltshaker1118
@saltshaker1118 6 ай бұрын
@@IdaSantti But Dumbledore doesn't know that, he just knows that after attacking Harry he disappeared and his forces fell and he doesn't know about the Horcruxes to assume that he's still alive
@IdaSantti
@IdaSantti 6 ай бұрын
@@saltshaker1118 he didn't know about the horcruxes specifically yes, but he never believed Voldy to be dead and gone. That's why he put Harry to live with Petunia
@coolnerdlll6053
@coolnerdlll6053 6 ай бұрын
I just started watching Through the Griffin Door yesterday. Right now I'm on The Sorting Hat, and so far the series has been awesome. I never realized how deep the books got even before the whole "accepting death" motif was introduced.
@Ralph-rr9iv
@Ralph-rr9iv 6 ай бұрын
The one think about Lockheart. Dumbledore knew he was a fraud AND knew the DADD was cursed. He had hoped the curse would expose Lockheart as well,
@timothymacnamara5641
@timothymacnamara5641 6 ай бұрын
did dobby mess with the floo powder travel? harry ends up with the malfoys right after and they incriminate themselves in that shop at that time... coincidence?
@ginnyjollykidd
@ginnyjollykidd 6 ай бұрын
Hermione is excellent with memory charms. She removed herself from her parents' memories but left the rest. Her parents went to Australia (Sydney?). So yes, you don't have to wipe a person's entire memory.
@JayFranklin-hb3hx
@JayFranklin-hb3hx 6 ай бұрын
Great bonus episode! Google form submitted!
@srayj
@srayj 6 ай бұрын
Whenever it comes to Dumbledore‘s big plan, I think so much of it can be chalked up to him being such a skill the legilimens, like when he’s in Hagrid’s hut. I’m pretty sure he’s probably reading Ron and Harry’s minds, which allows him to know that they’re there and then he uses his power of deduction to figure out which corner they’re most likely in, hence why he can seemingly look at them even when they’re invisible. I would also imagine this is how he could figure out what Lucius was up to with the diary.
@simunjiii
@simunjiii 6 ай бұрын
Well legilimency wouldn’t help Dumbledore because that requires eye contact. But he would well be able to read the room. Therefore noticing Hagrid making tea and serving cake. Many even hearing voices inside the hut. He could then deduce that it is probably Harry and Ron who are there and that they are using the cloak to hide.
@Crashburn711TeamXtinction
@Crashburn711TeamXtinction 6 ай бұрын
Love the stash J, love the content gentleman
@NachtKralle-e5l
@NachtKralle-e5l 6 ай бұрын
Hey Brother, I have an question for you: Why doesn´t Harry burn the Diary like he did with Quirrell.
@sarahclarke1550
@sarahclarke1550 5 ай бұрын
I LOVE the idea that lockheart stoll travels with trolls from quirrel. One of my really big issues with Quirrel is the scene at Halloween when he faints at the stress of a troll. We are very aware that trolls are his speciality and most of the teachers would know this, especially dumbledore and probably those guarding the stone. So why is he so freaked out? I know its a diversion for him, but why did he think it would work? The teachers would expect him to deal with it. So maybe lockheart had just recently stollen his memory about trolls and he forgot how to deal with them? Not sure if memory charms could have a short term dazzling effect and then a long term forgetful effect.
@jackpickard1817
@jackpickard1817 6 ай бұрын
I’m not sure if it’s the case in America, but in England grapes are a typical thing that you’d bring to a hospital
@kalebzerger301
@kalebzerger301 6 ай бұрын
I really hope you guys do Pacific Northwest tour maybe for like book 5 or something
@hufflepom
@hufflepom 6 ай бұрын
In my mind whenever Dumbledore wants Snape to do something, but doesn’t want to explain why he just says, “do it for Lily” lol
@Prodrummer1603
@Prodrummer1603 6 ай бұрын
Didn't you Guys make a video about Dobby not being pointless in COS ?
@jb888888888
@jb888888888 6 ай бұрын
Dobby is necessary in this book to set up House Elfs and their rules. So when Kreacher follows RAB's orders it's understood without stopping the story for an explanation. Other house-elfs too.
@Harry-Hartmann
@Harry-Hartmann 6 ай бұрын
A Very Good Video 👌🏻👍🏻
@joonaslaitinen9520
@joonaslaitinen9520 6 ай бұрын
One thing came to my mind today when listening Deathly Hallows. Why did locket Horcrux try to murder Harry while in pool? I mean Harry is also Horcrux, so it seems strange that Horcrux is trying to destroy other Horcrux...
@faithfullypatient
@faithfullypatient 6 ай бұрын
I think somewhere in the books it’s indicated that the Sword of Gryffindor resides in the headmaster’s office - which is to say - Gryffindor’s office. It’s there when Snape has to get it to Harry in Deathly Hollows. So I imagine that’s where it “lives” until needed and from there it travels around to present itself to Gryffindors in need.
@UnfazedPhoenix
@UnfazedPhoenix 6 ай бұрын
It wasn't in the office. Snape had secured it and placed a fake in Bellatrix's vault.
@bhavens9149
@bhavens9149 6 ай бұрын
Wonder if it could have played out with Dobby at the Weasley's because possibly Arthur gets how to re-phrase questions to get info from Dobby? the broken wand might have occurred from some "stupid" stunt that a youngster might make at school, at a more appropriate time later in the story. it makes a different story, but could still work.
@h.n.4060
@h.n.4060 3 ай бұрын
I'm for a partial plan from Dumbledore. I think Dumbledore is okay with hiring Lockhart, for example, because A) anyone truly competent with the dark arts may recognize a pattern and realize the position is jinxed, and so wouldn't take the job unless they had a very good reason to, so he would be desperate to hire even a 2nd or even 3rd rate teacher. and... B) Dumbledore could use the jinx to his benefit to expose or remove people he dislikes. This would explain why he hired Lockhart or Umbridge, as a way to eliminate them without actually doing anything to them. With everything else, Dumbledore has limited information too. His entire plan, likely, is to just keep Harry alive long enough for him to die at the "proper moment." Any big plan he does have would only start to get into motion around book 4.
@occheermommy
@occheermommy 6 ай бұрын
So I keep commenting on the videos that there was something in wizarding world that explains why Dumbledore hired Lockhart. What I didn’t remember is how it kind of does fall in with his big plan. Here is the quote from wizarding world: Albus Dumbledore’s plans, however, ran deep. He happened to have known two of the wizards for whose life’s work Gilderoy Lockhart had taken credit, and was one of the only people in the world who thought he knew what Lockhart was up to. Dumbledore was convinced that Lockhart needed only to be put back into an ordinary school setting to be revealed as a charlatan and a fraud. Professor McGonagall, who had never liked Lockhart, asked Dumbledore what he thought students would learn from such a vain, celebrity-hungry man. Dumbledore replied that ‘there is plenty to be learned even from a bad teacher: what not to do, how not to be’. That last line is similar to what Ben and J have been saying about showing Harry not to let fame get to his head.
@keithg460
@keithg460 6 ай бұрын
Next video idea: What if Dobby never visited Harry? Without some plot reworking, it looks like Harry either gets eaten by Aragog or gets his memory is wiped by Lockhart. Of course, Harry and Ron only miss getting the info directly from Hagrid because Fudge comes. And they could maybe thwart Lockhart another way. Would it have been a great setup and payoff? Not necessarily, but if they do, maybe Ron could use his wand legitimately the whole year and he is just able to thwart Lockhart himself, similar to how he helped with the troll. Then again, the cave in doesn't happen, so there might have to be a spell they learn that triggers an explosion or something, and that 'fixes the timeline'. This spell would be the setup and payoff learned earlier, like the Wingardium spell.
@H20ticklemehomo
@H20ticklemehomo 6 ай бұрын
Here we go
@keithg460
@keithg460 6 ай бұрын
Quirrel was able to get in and out of Gringotts without getting caught. That makes him an extremely talented wizard, so as far as I'm concerned, Travels with Trolls theory confirmed. Nice one, bros.
@2DJoYogurt
@2DJoYogurt 6 ай бұрын
I was listening to goblet of fire and I realize something Frank Bryce is only awakened due to a pain in his leg so what if he never woke up, Nagini would’ve never been turned into a horcrux (I forgot which book Dumbledore confirms this in, but it is said that he ties the connection between the death of Frank Bryce and the sudden change in Nagini) meaning that Harry would never have seen the vision of Nagini biting Mr. Weasley which means Dumbledore never connects that both Harry and Voldemort have a link into each other’s minds. Meaning, as soon as Voldemort realizes this, he will have a much greater connection because Harry would not have been taking lessons against it, or Voldemort find out at all?
@Zocress
@Zocress 6 ай бұрын
Love the podcasts, amazing. But isn't the sound very rumbly? Could the team look into that a little bit with the audio setup?
@UnfazedPhoenix
@UnfazedPhoenix 6 ай бұрын
How will the live podcast work for people who can't go?... look forward to these every week ❤
@JessicaClark-lq4gw
@JessicaClark-lq4gw 6 ай бұрын
I have a suggestion for a potential Lockhart Victim. Bathilda Bagshot. We know she knew Dumbledore, he would have heard plenty of stories from her in the years he lived next to her in Godrics Hollow. She was introduced to James and Lilly by Dumbledore. Her memory went funny at some point. The reasoning given for her memory has always been her age but she is the only magical person we know who has memory issues without being affected by a memory charm.
@kalebzerger301
@kalebzerger301 6 ай бұрын
I have a question, we see house elves all throughout the books but are there other types of elves? Like forest elves or something like that
@oliverdknielsen7508
@oliverdknielsen7508 6 ай бұрын
I have a question What book editions are you useing?
@philw6056
@philw6056 6 ай бұрын
Do we have any information how the sword can be used in a duel? It can destroy magical objects and it cuts like a normal sword. Maybe it can block spells, because I don't know how someone would use a short-range sword as an offensive weapon against a wizard with long-range spells. It's also impractical if you can only use the sword or your wand at the same time, maybe it's small size makes handling both possible.
@ladyamber2766
@ladyamber2766 21 күн бұрын
If the headmaster’s office was Godric Griffindore’s space it is likely that is where the sword lives normally.
@BigShelley
@BigShelley 6 ай бұрын
If the sword only takes in that which makes it stronger, would it even be able to become a horcrux? I guess it does seem the other horcruxes make their containers stronger.
@sierran9653
@sierran9653 6 ай бұрын
Without the flying car, Harry also sees the carriages that pull themselves and Thestrels are much more surprising later on
@TaratheEnchantress
@TaratheEnchantress 6 ай бұрын
He sees that in year 3 and 4 ? He just doesn’t go to the sorting ceremony year 3 because he’s being checked over by Madame Pomfrey.
@lorekie0133
@lorekie0133 5 ай бұрын
regarding the looks of the wands, I always thought that there is some kind of business that offers personalisation or that it is something the wizards and witches do themselves, because otherwise it would be weird that Voldemorts or even Lucius wands looked the way they do when they bought them. And in the movies the appearence of harrys wand also changes, from the boring looking stick to the thing with the handle made of bark. But recently I thought maybe its some type of selfactualization or adapting the wand does to better fit to their wielder. what do you think?
@jordanwoods4987
@jordanwoods4987 6 ай бұрын
Hay j and Ben absolutely love Harry Potter, and I love your deep dives and theories on scb, and this is the most in-depth dive into the books I have found anywhere loveing every episode. I have a question which is what if anything would happen to the story if dudley also was accepted to hogwarts as we know there is magical opportunity that runs in the family and it could have passed to dudley. Keep up the amazing work From your English fan.
@Crashburn711TeamXtinction
@Crashburn711TeamXtinction 6 ай бұрын
I think the banchey book would be more of a connection with Dumbledore's friend, he has talked about his friend dealing with banchies
@rodneyowens9918
@rodneyowens9918 6 ай бұрын
i was wondering what todays episode was going to be since you said chapter one was going to start on tour.
@thissailorja
@thissailorja 6 ай бұрын
I'm mentioning Dumbledore saved Dracos soul by having Snape kill him & not Draco, brought me to think about Harry in Sorcerers Stone. He killed a man at age 11 & he doesn't mention or show trauma of killing someone at such a young age. Adults in combat zones sometimes crack under the weight of taking a life. So Dumbledore keeping him humble & sociopathic is a HUGE accomplishment.
@darushkii
@darushkii 6 ай бұрын
That thumbnail though 🔥🔥🔥
@triforceofcourage100
@triforceofcourage100 6 ай бұрын
I see a bunch of people saying that the story ends at obliviate but it discounts a couple of things first of all the wand ron’s wand core which is already not loyal to him would be even less responsive to Lochhart so I don’t think the spell happens at all I think the wand fizzles and sparks but probably won’t produce any actual magic. Second is that that knowing a broken wand will probably backfire makes Lockhart a non threat if got a working wand they would have been quicker on the draw. However the spiders would definitely be a bigger issue without the car escape becomes far less likely but far from impossible thanks to the spell Hermione used on the pixies Immobulus.
@patrickdukart3298
@patrickdukart3298 6 ай бұрын
If Dobby wouldn't have shown up, then Harry would probably only see Dobby as a weird little creature with Luscious.
@jasonburt8069
@jasonburt8069 6 ай бұрын
Big What if idea, maybe after hearing the rumors of a dark spirit(Voldemort) in the Albanian forests, Dumbledore has an idea, to draw out the dark lord in his weakened state, to give him a more meaningful farewell. As well as to offer the magical community a more satisfying end to the dark days. The reasoning hear could be that Dumbledores' "For the greater good" ideas may still be brewing in the cauldron. Regardless of his reputation, he is still just a man, however magical.
@bhavens9149
@bhavens9149 6 ай бұрын
I may be misremembering, but wasn't the sword in Dumbledore's office in year one?
@remnant1018
@remnant1018 6 ай бұрын
I dunno why I always expect the painting on your wall to move, lol. When do you guys think Dumbledore found out about the matching wand cores? I don’t recall Harry mentioning it while Dumbledore was alive, but he spoke about it at the end in King’s Cross Station.
@ScottReika
@ScottReika 6 ай бұрын
Dumbledore does not seem to me the kind of person to leave it up to chance that the Chosen One might have his memory wiped. We can assume he knows about Ron's wand, but it is just as often causing chaos as cleanly backfiring against the user. Moreover, there was every chance that Lockhart could just as easily have stolen Harry's wand. To me this means the Elder Wand MUST be capable of reversing presumed irreversible memory charms, which does make sense, BUT it also means that Dumbledore chose not to in Lockhart's case. It is clearly not the most terrible decision Albus ever made, just a slightly darker moment than it may first appear.
@Anza2700
@Anza2700 6 ай бұрын
I just thought of a question. If you see someone "dying" but instead they come back as a ghost, not truly dying could you still see thestrals?
@arcanedawn349
@arcanedawn349 6 ай бұрын
I just had a thought. If the assumption that voldemort brought the sword of griffindor to the potters to turn it into a horcrux. What if the only reason why harry became a horcrux was because the sword rejected voldemort's soul, Since the sword only takes in what makes it stronger? Still curious as to how exactly to make a horcrux because no theory on it seems correct because of harry becoming one. Most theories seem to theorize what the person does after the killing, voldemort couldn't do anything after attacking the potters because he no longer had a physical body. This makes me think the process to make a horcrux must come before the killing/splitting of the soul. So I think the process was completed, voldemort attacked the potters, the sword rejected the piece of voldemorts soul since it would make the sword weaker, so the piece of soul then attached itself to harry
@shubhangiraghuvanshi779
@shubhangiraghuvanshi779 Ай бұрын
I ❤❤❤❤ these two
@marcekessen8003
@marcekessen8003 6 ай бұрын
Guys!! Like MANY other people said, Ron’s wand!! Dobby was rather important in that sequence of events and having Lockhart eventually meet Karma
@wrdreads4742
@wrdreads4742 6 ай бұрын
Without Dobby and the car and detention from crashing the car into the tree, Ron doesn't clean Tom's trophy....... Unless he gets detention for attempting Eat Slugs on Malfoy....which doesn't happen naturally. But if Ron doesn't recognize Tom's name....and the 50 years ago connection, and then that conversation with Hagrid....I don't know if they are at Hagrid's Hut when Hagrid gets arrested.... They never get told to follow the spiders. Dumbledore never asks for loyalty.... I guess that's prompted from the Diary memory, so maybe they still end up there. I think Harry would have less trust in Tom Riddle without Ron knowing the name from the trophy for "special services to the school." ....Definitely more in depth thought needed, but you guys really missed that big point of Ron not cleaning Tom's trophy. Love that Colin ends up not getting petrified!
@quilldragon1074
@quilldragon1074 6 ай бұрын
What if Lockheart's memory charm on Quirell is what weakened Quirell enough to make him vulnerable to Voldemort's influence? Walking through the Albanian forest freshly obliviated and having just lost his sense of self, he stumbles upon the wisp of voldemort, who is able to use this to his advantage and twist Quirell to his will.
@Mefous2
@Mefous2 6 ай бұрын
Do you think the curse on the DADA job would have actually affected Snape? He had a Dark Mark and in book 6 the death eaters cast a protection spell that didn't stop anyone with one. Maybe Voldemort taught it to them he also probably invented the spell itself.
@TheRealRehman
@TheRealRehman 3 ай бұрын
Personally I like the Spellslinger series way of getting to the Truth by using playing cards to tell a story
@prestonjones6730
@prestonjones6730 6 ай бұрын
What does it mean when someone disarms another wizard, becomes master of their wand, and yet they keep it? Snape would be the master of Lockhart’s wand and that changed nothing. How many wands can one wizard master and how many people has Harry disarmed in the series? Does that include while they’re training for the spell in the DA and they’re all just rapidly switching ownership or does the proper intent need to be there as well?
@billswan4419
@billswan4419 6 ай бұрын
Please go over how the Beasley twins missed Peter Pettigrew on the Maurader Map for years scanners was with Percy then Ron at Hogwarts
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