DUNE (1984/2000/2021*) side-by-side comparison (trailer #1)

[@DonGeritch]

got crosseyed watching this, thanks!

[@kylek2623]

🥴🤣😂

[@rugr82day]

I had to keep rewinding to compare the 3.

[@m9rco0]

lmfaoo

[@neisya5809]

lmaoooo

[@jonpirovsky]

The 1984 film looked great, but was not faithful to the books. The 2000 tv series was faithful to the books, but looked terrible. Let's hope the 2020 version joins the dots.

[@reactions5783]

2020 version looks like Maze Runner compared to the David Lynch classic.

[@dresdenwarlock7978]

@@reactions5783 David Lynch is amazing but he made it more about himself and his style than the story.

[@Droogie128]

@@dresdenwarlock7978 agree. It was a David Lynch movie sprinkled with Dune. I'm a big fan of David Lynch, but I want a Dune movie.

[@michaelnorfolk22]

Lynch never read the book! As much as I like his movie and the TV series everything I’m reading and seeing is telling me we are going to be blown away by Denis Villeneuve!

[@Hykje]

I don't know why people say that Dune 2000 was faithful to the books -there was tons of badly written soap opera thrown into this hat and styrofoam party because they wanted to give Princess Irulan something to do.

[@majoraslb4311]

I'll admit that I didn't even know "Dune 2000" was a thing until just now.

[@karlstone297]

It's genuinely great if you can tolerate the turn of the century special effects.

[@El-Duderino-His-Dudeness]

@@karlstone297 Or the fact that all the "desert" scenes are like big canvas backgrounds and it's super obvious and it's a tad bit boring. Other that, glad to see someone acknowledging it with one of these comparison videos.

[@jonpirovsky]

It was a TV miniseries before TV series became visually decent (for me, that happened in 2006, with HBO's Rome). So it looks... cheap. Especially for modern standards. The 1984 film looks much better than it, but it tells a much better story...

[@kennethfharkin]

Jon Pirovsky be fair, it was a SyFi network series which meant minimal budget. People forget the stunning miniseries which were produced before 2000 by networks with the money to spend. Shogun and Lonesome Dove were phenomenal with exacting standards.

[@AWrestlingHistorian]

It was more accurate to the book.

[@Korombos]

Paul, in Dune the book, is 15 years old. Kyle was 25 in 1984, but looks youngish (young man, but not a boy.). Alec was 26 is 2000, but looks at least that old or older. Timothee is also 25, but with his facial proportions, I expected him to actually be much younger. I wonder how much effect hair and makeup has on this, as well. I hope the acting and script are good, because the cinematography is epic.

[@Sharpe1502]

Timothee is 25?! I thought that kid was like 19 or 20. I say kid, dude’s a year younger than me. 😂

[@krashd]

You can't have a 15 year old have two love interests, that would be a bit much for American audiences.

[@gerhardadler3418]

I thought he must be in his mid twenties from his looks. Therefore i was right and in my eyes he does neither look younger nor older. But to hire an actor that young would be a risk, a risk hollywoods moneymachinery does not like very much. In the books he is not only 15, but also is small and looks younger for his age. Therefore waht we really would need is someone about 13 years old ^^

[@marlasingerr1996]

@@krashd ?? Dune is an american novel?

[@krashd]

@@marlasingerr1996 It was also an American novel and it has a 12 year old girl sleep with all of her male friends. What does either book have to do with movie theatres?

[@alisterfolson]

Dune 1984: age 14 Dune 2000: age 30 Dune 2020: age 51 *STILL WAITING FOR THE 'SLEEPER TO AWAKEN'*

[@kennethfharkin]

Same as me, but just turned 50 not 51.

[@Hogtown1986]

Dune 1965: age 1 Dune 1984: age 20 Dune 2000: age 36 Dune 2020: age 56 You might say I’ve grown up with Dune. With this pattern we’ll see a remake circa 2040, though I’m hoping this movie is successful enough to start a franchise. Plenty of source material to work with.

[@alisterfolson]

@@Hogtown1986 This is true. And I never knew they purposely synced the trailers in real life

[@akterminded]

FATHERRRR

[@akterminded]

THE SLEEPER, HAS AWAKENED

[@Chris-uk7gy]

The 2000 version was low budget, but I always loved the way they did the Fremen's eyes.

[@williamozier918]

He who controls the hype, controls the universe!

[@SirContent]

wat if l control ur Mama

[@karlhans6678]

so true

[@kxkxkxkx]

Oil ☝️

[@Hogtown1986]

The only good thing about the 2000 miniseries was that it had the time to be a mostly-faithful adaptation of the book. But they didn’t have the budget for decent specials effects, or location shoots in the desert, or top-notch actors. William Hurt was the big name and he did well as Duke Leto. The sequel Children of Dune was superior. It combined the Messiah and Children books, and introduced James McAvoy to the world. And it had an awesome original score by Brian Tyler that punched well above its SciFi Channel weight.

[@kennethfharkin]

I really liked the actress’s portrayal of Alia in the second series and Alec Newman was much better as an older Paul and as the Preacher in the sequel. Chani worked for me and I did like the non-oozing sores version of the Baron. That actor is well known to BBC series fans and is very good.

[@DagobertX2]

Some settings and costumes were nice. But that "stillsuit", ugh. One of the iconic things of that world, basically was just an overall because the limited budget.

[@derworfnet]

In hindsight, I was probably a bit too hard on the Miniseries. I judged it unfairly against the 1984-Movie (which was my only prior exposure to the story in 2000) a battle the Miniseries could only lose because it lacked the large budget to compete in terms of sets, scale and cast. Without having read the novel, I couldn't appreciate the one thing it did right: Being a faithful adaptation. Going into the new movie, I will only judge it against the source material, not against the previous adaptations.

[@Hogtown1986]

Kenneth Harkin I also liked the actress who played the adult Alia. I never saw her in anything else. TV Chani was so beautiful and an upgrade over Sean Young.

[@Hogtown1986]

DagobertX2 I thought the stillsuit in the series was far better than the movie. They were sand-colored to blend in and had face masks. Why would a desert stillsuit be black? It made no sense. And with most moisture being lost through the nose and mouth, a stillsuit lacking a face mask would be futile.

[@Ephisus]

The mini-series will always have a special place in my heart.

[@StrollingWolf]

2:17 Paul after drinking The Water Of Life 2020: 😩 1984: 😫 2000: 🤡

[@arcadealchemist]

2000 mini series was closer to the book.

[@StrollingWolf]

@@arcadealchemist You are absolutely right. But the hats! The hats!

[@arcadealchemist]

@@StrollingWolf are accurate to the 80s novel cover :3

[@gerhardadler3418]

@@StrollingWolf Lots of things were made cheaply, because not much money. But they had some nice ideas, like for example the samurai like soldiers. And for the hats. Just look at the hats woman (and man) having over the the centuries in different cultures. There are many even more rdicolous than thsoe in the series.The richer and more powerful an empire was, the stranger the hats ^^

[@ghassanalmaktari7968]

best observation ever lol

[@gblatt8472]

I love the bold, expressionistic colors of 2000

[@swordmonkey6635]

Yeah. The commentary says it was made more as a stage play with the illuminated backdrops (instead of green screen) and vibrant colors.

[@sarahprice659]

Totally... read an article that broke the color themes down, they are worked into every facet. Really remarkable.

[@kingofmonsters14]

the Sandworm looks terrifying in that one.

[@triggrhaapi]

@@swordmonkey6635 It worked well done that way, and because it's a miniseries they really got a chance to explore the depth of the story.

[@Dularr]

You should look at the concept art for jodorowsky's dune. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2HGe4GIba14rZI

[@philtkaswahl2124]

One thing I like about the 2000 adaptation--despite how it's (somewhat rightfully) mocked for looking tacky and cheap due to budgetary limits--is that the "space medieval nobility" wasn't shy about putting on wild and colorful outfits like a lot of real actual historical nobility. If only movies like that could find visual direction that manages to strike a balance in using that colorfulness without looking too off to the extent that audiences can't take it seriously anymore, that would be soooo welcome compared to the tendency of a lot of recent films to go "gritty and serious means we dull everything down because people are morons."

[@ThePremiumChicken]

All I can hear is Patrick Stewart yelling, "Atomics!"

[@azmodanpc]

And Sting glaring and looking nuts in metal speedos.

[@KRAFTWERK2K6]

"Mood? Mood's a thing for cattle & loveplay."

[@TitoTimTravels]

I forgot Stewart was in it. The Sting version was a totally forgettable thing.

[@doom7ish]

ATOMICS!!

[@Jim-Mc]

and running into battle with a pug

[@The80sWolf_]

In ways the Dune mini-series is closer to what I imagined when reading the books.

[@immortaljanus]

The 2000s mini-series simplified the plot, this is what made if watchable.

[@r-saint]

It wasn't so restricted regarding run time. DVD release.

[@hammerstein199]

It would have lost out on actors if they made it any later, but I look at Battlestar Galactica and think "if CGI was only a little further ahead for Dune 2000, it would have looked better by miles" I mean, look at Children of Dune! It's a shame since the plot is that much closer to the books - especially when you get the Director's Cut.

[@omisan771]

I never imagined such silly costumes and boring actors. William Hurt as Duke Leto...ZZZzzz

[@dirtyhank7214]

Depends maby in your imagination and zeitgeist

[@wowjack8944]

2:06 the shot in 1984 looks really good!

[@kylek2623]

The good old days syndrome.. old songs are the best, old movies are the best, old gadgets are the best.. I watched the first DUNE(84) when I was 22 but I love the trailer of the new DUNE.

[@aerochicc]

I like something about each version to be honest.

[@PhilWill903]

The cinematography is so much more advanced in the new movies.

[@sovereign1160]

I don't care what anyone says, Dune 2000 was a solid miniseries and the best on screen version of Dune to date. I still re-watch it and still enjoy it. Also, this was a very well done video, really interesting to see the side by side.

[@AmedeeBoulette]

Sovereign agreed! 4 parts if I remember?

[@surge21xx]

@@AmedeeBoulette 3 Parts. Children of Dune was also 3 parts.

[@surge21xx]

I agree with this. Everyone keeps comparing this new film with the David Lynch Film, but the scenes I see in this trailer mirror the Miniseries for me. Which tells me they're doing a much more faithful adaptation and it makes me more excited.

[@TitoTimTravels]

I love the Sci-Fi version. That was back when they knew how to spell sci-fi BTW... The Sting version was horrid. Big budget, better effects, horrible movie.

[@LevCallahan]

Honestly I loved both. The miniseries holds truly deeply in my heart despite the dated effects and limited budget, and the 2021 version is a fantastic visual update that follows the spirit of the novel. Dune part 2 on the other hand...

[@TheLisa-Al-Gaib]

That was beautiful. Thank you for putting this together

[@LDrumsOhio]

Absolutely stunning! I love it Dune 2000 was one of the highest rated shows on Sci-Fi channel up till that time. I had a watch party for every night of the mini-series and the sequel Children of Dune.

[@RobRogersOnline]

That was really great to see! Its funny, I think all three have parts that work better than the other two. Its cool to see them all together like this.

[@Rosula_D]

For all its problems, the miniseries accomplished what nobody else could and actually introduced the twins. Not to mention, they even had James as Leto II. I only hope I live long enough to watch a decent adaptation of the God Emperor of Dune 🙏

[@legionaireb]

Let's be realistic: nobody who isn't a fan specifically of the books cares about any beyond the original trilogy.

[@robgronotte1]

I read all the books and have never heard of any referred to as a 'trilogy'. There was more time between books 2 and 3 than books 3 and 4. And book 2 is so short that it is more of a PS to book 1. God Emperor is truly the one that could be "unfilmable" though, with the unconventional narrative, the long expanses of time and the human who becomes a sandworm hybrid.

[@SgtZaqq]

Who's James?

[@Rosula_D]

@@SgtZaqq James Mcavoy, the actor.

[@-.-.11]

@@robgronotte1 Heard them referred to as 2 trilogies plenty of times.

[@clintpot8521]

Thanks for including the sci fi version! My favorite.

[@pelgervampireduck]

the 1984 movie looks awesome, I wish it was a 6 hours movie, it had potential, it could have been epic.

[@missdarkfaerie1377]

Great job. It’s really cool to see 2000 version of Dune is included in this comparison video. I 1st watched that version of Dune before seeing the sequel, Children of Dune when it premiered. It was really the best when it comes to the faithfulness of the book. 1984 Dune felt just rushed & changed the ending, which I hated. I’m looking forward to the 2020 version. Great job. 😁

[@karlhans6678]

2020 looks like its gonna be bad or not better than the 1984.

[@GandalfsBeard1]

Daaaaaaaaamn! 😲 .... Is it just me, or is Dune 1984 *way* better looking than Dune 2000? ... Dune 1984's production values look like they would still hold their own next to the new one if some of the effects were polished up a bit. I also noticed that the new version shares a lot of production *design* with the 1984 version.

[@JAYBARTON1981]

That's exactly what I thought.

[@chriskelly3481]

Yep. I am one of the very few people (it seems) who AB-SO-LUTELY loves Lynches Dune. Saw it as a little kid nearly 35 years ago. Blew me away. Shaped my life, set my love of film and ignited my addiction to science fiction.

[@JAYBARTON1981]

@@chriskelly3481 sam here.

[@klyanadkmorr]

Most production desgns come from art requested or approved by Frank Herbert for his books or documentaries.

[@TitoTimTravels]

The 2000 version was a tv mini series, so did not have budget of the Sting version - but it was a far superior adaptation. Particularly the follow up, Children of Dune.

[@dr.netfreak]

Dune 2020 to other ones : "Something our ancestors never learned"

[@kreliann]

OMG incredible job man!

[@zechmerquise5281]

All of these almost 20 years apart. Amazing

[@poep85]

Walk without rhythm and you won't attract the worm

[@cirian75]

if you walk without rhythm, huh, you'll never learn

[@ThreadBomb]

Walk without rhythm, and you won't attract the worm - in song form! kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXSneoyse9KajZo

[@jumhed994]

It doesn't attack white people?

[@MrDarrylR]

@@jumhed994 Shai-hulud doesn't get syncopation. So the only white people that live are from the ministry of silly walks.

[@gl8338]

With almost 20 years between each variation of the story, this is an amazing view of how both technologies can change the visuals and how different generations can interpret the same story.

[@MattJett]

The sandworm from 1984 still holds up well in SFX against the 2020 version. Gotta love practical effects. Why the T-Rex 8n Jurassic Park will forever look hyper real, why the Thing from John Carpenter's film still sends chills down my spine and looks WAY more horrific back then, then any modern day CGI monster.

[@MrRetidy]

I love the font for the 2000's dune logo.

[@NineInchNailer]

Yuck

[@lettuceprime4922]

Very 90's. Not necessarily a bad thing. I kinda wish that graphic design sensibility would come back. Flat design is sorta boring sometimes.

[@aleksanderolbrych9157]

@@lettuceprime4922 h e l l n o

[@DG-gx4sg]

Looks like it's from an early 2000s kids cartoon, no thanks

[@Riddlewire]

It's actually animated, with a shadow moving across it. But, unfortunately, the credits are also rolling in front of it. I imagine that's why he used a freeze-frame. To keep it looking closer to the other two.

[@EvilgnomeTV]

Makes me happy this has some of the visual genes from Lynch's Dune. The design and world building was off the hook in that film.

[@patrickmuir6940]

so many ppl don't even know about the mini series. up until now its been the best adaptation given their budget they had its pretty good. I would love to see more ppl react to the mini series.

[@GarrickMerriweather]

Even though the newest *_DUNE_* is my favorite, I LOVED Sci-fi Channel's *_DUNE 2000_* so much more so than the original movie. I actually hated the original movie. But the D2k mini-series and later the *_Children of DUNE_* mini-series got the story right. The special effects and VFX didn't leave much to be desired but they were still solid productions.

[@gregor_man]

Perfect. Actually all versions look good in this compilation.

[@statueoftheabyss6886]

Still love the David Lynch vision. To me it looks the best, most interesting / artistic interpretation and happy to watch until my eyes bleed. Obviously the latest hasn’t been released yet, but would need to bring something very special to the table just looks like a hyped Lynch update/reload.

[@odiseaio6872]

Bravo!! Dude, Thanks! Seriously, what a great fan service!

[@priyac7054]

Oh man! :') the TV version was the first time I ever knew Dune existed :')

[@voodoochild1975az]

I am sooooo sorry that was your introduction to this amazing sci fi universe

[@priyac7054]

@@voodoochild1975az yea it was 18 years ago.. But then I read the book when I was 19 😌💙

[@skadi6750]

@@voodoochild1975az Why? I mean I was introduced by Children of Dune TV miniseries, AKA second half of thiis miniseies...and as much as it was not a perfect adaptation, it was good enough to inspire us to read the books, so...why being sorry?:-D Keep your sorry for people who actually need it:-D

[@priyac7054]

@@skadi6750 this person prolly a gen x lmao

[@jessicahall7370]

Definitely worth a paused rewatch! Nice edit!

[@timmerred5]

Dune 2000 is absolutely amazing in my humble opinion.

[@DustinTheStooge]

Thank you so much for this! It is simply amazing to have all 3 here!

[@wordshock]

The gom jabbar scene in the sci fi series is feckin atrocious. You couldn’t drain such an awesome and terrifying moment from the book, of any atmosphere and dread if you purposefully tried to.

[@bkranchstacker]

Wow, I didn't expect... thank you. Awesome work. I really hope we get a date soon, I'm actually starting to finally get a bit hyped for this.

[@lostnumberaptom3927]

Stilgar, do we have wormsign? Usul, we have wormsign the likes of which even God has never seen.

[@scotts8818]

What a fantastic edit!

[@kagemaru259]

I really enjoyed the 2021 version a lot, but growing up with the 1984 one, I still love Kyle McLachlan as Paul Atriedes despite not being faithful to the book. I wish McLachlan could've had a small cameo in the new one.

[@doobadood]

Kyle as the Padishah Emperor! I mean he's old enough so he'd fit the role

[@rufousthefox9766]

He's going to be cast in part 2.

[@Lg.sidequest]

Im so excited for this film. I heard about Dune but never watched any of the movies or even knew it was based on a book. Hell, I didn't know there was 2000s remake. I watched the new trailer so many times already and I'm fascinated. I've been watching KZbin videos on it and I desperately want to read the book(s) now.

[@karlstone297]

Yo the Dune 2000 miniseries was great. Yeah the special effects weren't always amazing but who honestly cares? I grew up watching the DVD set over and over again until I was old enough to read the books.

[@twilightcitystudios]

Glad to see this point of view. I see people criticizing the lack of a budget. Ok so what if it didn't have a top notch budget. That's how life is sometimes you can't always work in ideal conditions sometimes you have to work with the tools you have. I haven't seen it yet, but I try to not be too judgemental on a production's budget most of the time. There's movies I seen produced on a low budget and they're still a great watch. Budget isn't everything.

[@karlstone297]

@@twilightcitystudios Yeah exactly. Sometimes you just get over it cuz it's awesome anyways.

[@conflictstar]

You can tell John Harrison (who directed AND wrote the miniseries) had a very real love of the material. He didn't have the money to realize his vision.

[@ibrahimzengin3508]

I just watched Dune 2021 in the cinema 3D. I never watched the other film or the series. The Villanueva Movie its just great. I was 2,5 hours in another world. Great sound great pictures just a fantastic movie!

[@Hero323]

You're quick.

[@keiths81ca]

Great work with the editing

[@jezzmoto]

"The slow blade penetrates the shield"

[@andyzhang7890]

This edit is amazing

[@PoeCompany]

going with the usual color palette of today's movies: Black and Gray

[@lemur866]

But they went with a bold choice and added plenty of beige too.

[@gerhardadler3418]

Especially in historical movies this is a very unhistorical and common sight.

[@Dynoids]

To be fair arakis is a very bland dry planet. But I have faith in the directors capabilities of making stunning visuals. What I mean is if anyone can make a dry planet that makes you want ice water stunning in screen, denise villanueva is that person.

[@cairoanderson7944]

@@Dynoids Are deserts usually dark tinged though? This comes across as cold and I feel no connection with the books whatsoever.

[@Dynoids]

@@cairoanderson7944 I mean I can agree, but I would like to point out the scenes in the trailers where they show the sand close up and it shimmers with spice. All we can do is wait and see. Never thought any movie would be able to capture what our brains imagine when reading the books.

[@IDH2008]

You can totally see what parts of the trailer seems to pay tribute to either the 1984 movie or the 2000 miniseries! Like how the reverend mother is more like the 84 version, but you can totally see the setting aesthetics from the 2000 series in play! Just means that hopefully it can be the best of both worlds!!

[@kroozctrl6284]

So that’s what happened to Francis from “Malcolm in the Middle”

[@Argumemnon]

Well done, despite not having any footage of Liet-Kynes in the 2021 trailer. I've grown to enjoy all three adaptations. A fantastic book that's obviously difficult to adapt entirely faithfully, but each time with interesting interpretations.

[@jeffdube6016]

Dune 2000 had its weaknesses but I really liked it, even the low budget effects. Though at times the wardrobe was laughably bad.

[@marcosalmendras4998]

made it easier to recognize sub-groups (Bene-Jesuit, Spacing Guild, Mentats)

[@tenenieldjoandthenightsist5109]

I love Syfy Channel's Dune miniseries! The best one is the one with James McAvoy as Leto II

[@joergf6]

The 1984 version from David Lynch was the best. It was not faithful to the books, but that does not matter. I see the movie as a total different media of its own and it is not always helpful to keep too close to the books as long as the atmosphere/mood is kept. Unfortunately Alejandro Jodorowsky never finished his version.

[@WJen8]

This was cool 😮 thanks for putting this together!

[@uncledarren4262]

We'll remake Dune just about every 20 years.... until we get it right

[@marcosalmendras4998]

i'm surprising OK with this. up until I feel the Pre-spice mass engulf me into a cool, silent death.

[@gerhardadler3418]

Since we have about 25,000 years, that will be a lot of adaptions ^^

[@Shireke01]

Until we can faithfully replicate it on space

[@ThreadBomb]

0:37 Woah, is that Shelley Duvall in the TV version? Neat.

[@FriggSaga]

No that's not her

[@jeandurtal8404]

No, that's some rando Czech actress.

[@voodoochild1975az]

Nope. Just a shitty no name actress who's career went no where after that low budget Dune garbage Syfy puked out. I thought she sucked as an actress in the show, hopefully she is good elsewhere. Don't know her name, don't want to. Sorry to be harsh, I kinda hated the acting in that miniseries. I've seen better high school drama clubs than the cast for that shite.

[@borington4317]

Next up: comparing it to Dune II, the RTS

[@nishia_brownie988]

My friends don't seem to remember the scifi version 2000 but that one is my favorite thanks for the edit

[@dengiskhan7923]

Dune is coming up on spider man numbers for remakes

[@gerrittwesselink1147]

Definitely need to rewatch all these now

[@luciddreaming2947]

I love Dune of David Lynch

[@voodoochild1975az]

I loved that beautiful mess too... but don't call it Lynch's Dune. David Lynch is still pissed at how the studio screwed him on that film. he never got to finish it. they yanked the un finished footage from him since it was over schedule and over budget and edited it down into a barely comprehensible mess. From Lynch's perspective, that is NOT his movie. He never finished his movie. Dune '84 is some fucked up mess he refuses to acknowledge. I think current versions won't even list him as director, he asked to removed from credits. He basically disowned this film not for what you saw, but for that the studio prevented you from seeing. In his mind, it simply is not his movie. Just some bullshit hacked together with some footage he shot.

[@tbirdparis]

​@@voodoochild1975az agreed that it's a (significantly) flawed masterpiece. But wasn't David Lynch's anger more directed at the recut extended version the studio made without his involvement at all? He was certainly not pleased with the lack of final cut he had on the original cinematic release version, but he still put his name on the credits. For the TV extended version, he made them use the pseudonym "Alan Smithee" as the name of the director, which is conventional in film when someone wants to wash their hands of a project and make it clear that they do not endorse the final result. The extended version is truly awful, if you've seen it. Even the score editing alone is atrocious, the music is hacked to pieces and overlaid on top of itself in a very misguided attempt to create more action and drama. At the very least, even though the story and pacing of the cinematic release version starts falling apart towards the end of the film, you still feel some pretty confident and assured film making in the first half. In any case, I also don't refer to it as Lynch's Dune either, because it's true that it's not the film he intended to make overall. I much prefer to just call it the 1984 version, which in a way is a compliment too. Aside from some very obviously dated special effects techniques and some unfortunately poor green screen matting work (which could have been far better even in that era, the Star Wars films being a clear example), the film refuses to date as an identifiably 1984-looking production. This is because in creating the (stunning) design and world building of the film, it referred back to classic epic historical cinema which has the effect of grounding it in something more timeless. This also includes the casting - using actors from all over the world with varied accents, bringing with them a combined legacy of iconic cinema from different eras - it all comes together to make the scope of the film feel like a far more realistic depiction of vastly different cultures. Current Hollywood sci-fi would do well to take a page out of this book, instead of making all futuristic depictions seem like contemporary Americans talking like they do today, yet pretending to be in a far distant culturally removed future. I'm looking at you, JJ Abrams Star Trek/Star Wars and Star Trek Picard/Discovery....

[@voodoochild1975az]

@@tbirdparis The longer version is of mixed value. The extra scenes help the story, but are jarringly out of place. A lot of post effects not even added. In the extra scenes the Fremen lose their blue eyes. The score doesn't fit because they didn't re-score it, just try to edit shit. Basically it comes off like a high school AV club project. But that version's story is easier to follow with the extra scenes. As for the score, it was done by Toto. Steve Lukather is well known for session work. I really don't think it would have taken much to get him in to add to the score for those scenes. But instead, they went cheap, cheap, cheap. Likewise, how lazy to not add effects to those scenes. To create a true Lynch version, those scenes would have to be cleaned up, effects added, the whole thing edited better, rescored... and the impossible part... Lynch would have to shoot the last 20% of the movie he never got to shoot. As for the cultures in the work... I give that credit to Herbert. He brought a lot of legit anthropology to bear in creating the cultures for his world. If those cultures feel 'real' and kind of alien, so far removed from us in time, it's because actual science studying human culture was applied. Frankly (pun accidental) I think Herbert was a bit of a nerd. He geeked out on research in anthropology, ecology, even the specifics of sand dunes, how they form, how they move. I think that the solid science he applied is what makes his world seem so concrete and believable. But visually, yes, Lynch created such a distinct look in this film that it refuses to age or tie to a specific era. My views on that film are complex because I'm in a weird vin diagram overlap point. I'm a huge fan of the book. But I'm also a huge fan of Lynch. So the book fan in me is disappointed in that film and sees it's many flaws. But the Lynch fan in me loves it anyway. So I enjoy that film as a Lynch fan, not a Dune fan. So far, it looks like the book fan in me will get what he wants from Villeneuve.

[@tbirdparis]

@@voodoochild1975az I agree that the extended version at least brought some extra unused scenes to the cut which helped fill certain story gaps, even if they didn't do justice to it with including consistent use of visual effects and grading. But on the other side, you can also tell that the equilibrium of the film is thrown off because the people who did it were not anywhere near as committed as the director himself would have been, if the production hadn't turned so very sour towards him of course. Re the score editing, yes I know and that's exactly what I meant. As a film composer myself, I can tell you there's about zero percent chance the production would pay to rehire a composer and spend the (not insignificant amount of money) for orchestral recording and mixing sessions again - especially not just for a special TV release. Also, there's about as much chance (0%) that the composer would come back on board to do that, especially when the director has refused. And in this particular case, given the savage reception the film had when it came out, I imagine most people involved just wanted to move on and not be drawn back into it, even if some money was waved at them. Of course you're right that huge credit goes to Herbert for grounding his different factions and cultures in his fiction based on cues from real cultures in our own world. This is one key technique that makes a lot of the greatest fiction really work -Tolkien and George RR Martin are other good examples of this. Also it goes without saying that his backstory development on technology, ecology and spheres of human culture and society were far far more considered and fleshed out than most sci-fi ever is. Indeed that's one of the very things that distinguished him in literature in the first place. But what I meant was more about how this is translated to the screen. For example, I remember a scene from one of the Abrams Star Trek films with a bunch of Vulcan children all sounding and acting exactly like contemporary American children. Or any of the recent Star Trek TV series, in which the style of speech and slang of the characters sounds like it could be set in any kind of series literally today. What I liked about the 1984 film is that people do speak a little strangely, their dialogue doesn't sound like it would also fit in a contemporary character drama. These people do feel out of time, and somehow unrelated to us. The 1984 film doesn't do this by just making up pretend futurisms or trying to be other-worldly in a forced, gratuitous way. Instead, it uses the same technique as Herbert himself in the books, drawing on cultural references we can latch onto. The noble characters use haughty regal language (sometimes with accents), the Guild speak through translating machines, the Harkonnens have a more barbaric language style, the Fremen (in particular, Stilgar) have a stilted but also carefully elegant style of speech which sounds like they are always weighing their words. Some of this came naturally simply by casting actors who clearly do not speak English as their first language. But in general, it's this level of language diversity and the deeper sense of a broad backstory which I feel is lost in Hollywood sci-fi these days where everyone just sounds and speaks the same. Anyway it looks like we very much agree on most of this. It's good to see another fan of the books who has measured and considered opinions and analysis on the films and series made to date, as opposed to most people just liking whatever they saw first for no good reason.

[@voodoochild1975az]

@@tbirdparis I think I was trying to say the same thing. Lynch created cultures visually as well as Herbert created them descriptively. It was a feat, and yes, the Jar Jar Abrams Star Trek feels like people from our time pretending to be in the future. I'm really not a fan of that guy. Imo, he's not qualified to be a production assistant on a Lynch film. As for the score, a lot of it was just Steve Lukather laying down guitar tracks. I think he'd be relatively easy to get to revisit the score. But it's all pointless speculation, it will never happen. The people that own that footage don't care as much about the film as we do. I feel ownership of that film needs to move to someone that actually appreciates it. Funny. I'm a musician and you score films. Both of us react to the extended version score like nails on chalkboard lol I actually think either of us could have done a better job than was done.

[@7ulian7apataC]

Gracias. La mejor comparación de Dune.

[@gandralf]

I don't know why I find those three moms incredibly hot. Francesca Annis, Saskia Reeves and Rebecca Ferguson are stunning.

[@jasonjackson7389]

The Mini series is amazing, because it takes the time needed to invest you in the people that are important to the story. It even hurts to watch good guys become bad guys and how not to have blind faith.

[@cloudwolf3777]

I think all were great.. 👌🏻

[@qtarokujo3694]

just my opinion: I don't like how bright blue the eyes of Ibad are in the 2000 series. In both 1984 and 2021, they're a much deeper blue which fits more with the book's description, though personally I prefer the 2021 better because it doesn't look like it's glowing.

[@Rainbowhawk1993]

Dune 2000 is seriously under appreciated.

[@michaelcarnevale5620]

ya i agree.. the story actually made sense.. and i felt that it portrayed Paul's abilities of premonition in a way that was believable and compelling.. haven't seen it in years tho

[@Atlas-85]

Despite its obviously cheap budget, I LOVED the Dune miniseries and its followup Children of Dune. If one can get past the visuals and give it a chance, its such a good slow burn when viewed consecutively with Children of Dune.

[@EternalRoman]

@@michaelcarnevale5620 Well it is not Premonition, it is Prescience. The difference is that Prescience is his vision sees all Past, Present and endless Futures at the same time. He sees all the little details that might derail the future but also The past events that lead them there and now and will possibly lead them to said futures. He also sees all the different things in the past that lined up to the present events and how they diverge if they were in other ways. Premonition is only seeing the future. With Prescience those that are not Kwizzats Haderaks would go insane, and that is a key element on Paul that the thing that made him the Kwizzats Haderak is that 1. He was trained as a Male Bene Gesserit by Lady Jessica 2. Thuffir Howatt trained him as a Mentat and Paul is in the threshold of selecting to enter the phase of becoming a Mentat himself, so this combination aside his selective breeding origin made him the Kwizzats Haderak for the Bene Gesserits and the Makdi for the Fremen.

[@michaelcarnevale5620]

@@EternalRoman okay interesting. so how does he see all past? is it a mystical thing or does herbert try to justify it? like he can read his genetic memory or something?

[@EternalRoman]

@@michaelcarnevale5620 Genetic Memory, and in fact in the God Emperor of Dune novel Leto II (III) in fact uses the actual term itself as well as referring to the limited vision of the Bene Geserrits because they only posses the Female Genetic memory, while Kwizzats Hederaks have both Male and Female genetic memory which allows them to have perfect prescience of both sides. Leto II is even able to summon his past ancestors and speak with their voices extending to Egyptian times. I remind you that Earth is no longer inhabited nor present withing the Emperium but he relates these lives to Duncan Idaho's Ghola and also his servant Moneo. Leto II explains that he is NOT impersonating these people, that he in fact IS these people due to the genetic memory. He brings out the original Duke Leto, Lady Jessica, his mother Chani and even his dad Paul Muad'Dib and to solidify the believe on the doubting Ghola, he as Muad'Dib tells him his own personal stuff, which makes Duncan emotional. Frank Herbert was so revolutionary in his tale that it may appear that HE himself could have had prescience because many things he exposed on his DUNE novels on OUR time are in fact taking effect as we speak. He had done vast research on world cultures, political and religion, anthropological and Palenthological studies. Mind you the novels starter in 1965 and he already exposed A.I. and Genetic Memory, and the out come of society. Where people revered James Cameron on his Terminator franchise about A.I. attacking and bringing humans down, Herbert did it first. And Star Wars would had been never conceived if not for DUNE...sorry for the over expositional Ranting LOL

[@jezcartner4104]

Bloody top notch video sir, well done 👏

[@miguelhuerta2774]

Nice reference to Jodorowsky's never completed Dune film. Pink Floyd was originally supposed to compose the soundtrack to a film that was never made. Sad! 😫

[@missdarkfaerie1377]

I love Pink Floyd & I never knew this. Would’ve love to hear the soundtrack of it if it existed.

[@Hhhhhh-sz9ud]

I believe they were going to write the theme for House Atreites, not the full soundtrack.

[@lucasng9617]

I wish they had used more of Jodorowsky's ideas

[@medievaldad9537]

@@lucasng9617 exactly on every Dune forum I keep seeing this comment "nice nod to Jodorowsky!" and it pains me because I can't for the life of me understand why they didn't take more inspiration from Jodo while making this film

[@raccoonja-ronja]

At 2:23 the spice in Dune 2000 looks like someone poured a packet of italian herbs on the sand.

[@andromedach]

The costuming in the Lynch movie are so much better overall with the Atreides and even Bene Geserit, that plus its hard to out do Francesca Annis. Plus just in this trailer we see many changes from the book including both worm scenes and of course Liet's sex change.

[@bidenistechnicallyadictato738]

*That’s not a good thing, though.*

[@ablalynn1018]

I like all 3 versions plus love the books! The 1984 was so cool in its time - especially with Sting and Kyle M. I loved the 2000 miniseries because it allowed more detailed characterization (and you gotta love the sequel with James McAvoy!) I agree with many previous comments- the first 2 versions were definitely visually colorful and the Barons in those versions were more flamboyant. I did enjoy Denis Villeneuve's version- although it took a second watching for me to truly appreciate it. The first time it seemed less exciting and more subdued- but the 2nd time, I caught more nuances in the actors-especially Timothée Chalamet (plus a great fight scene with Jason Momoa.)

[@AWrestlingHistorian]

Can't wait for the next remake in 2040!

[@reneelopes3126]

Mathematically : 2044/2045

[@paolobolanos1]

I love all of the in it's time, I saw them all. As a fan you can't disregard or judge, you can just take everything and ejoy it... I've read the books, seen the movies, documentaries and played the games.... Love it all.. Feel like a true fan!

[@voodoochild1975az]

Can't love it all. I loved the books. I loved the beautiful mess Lynch made... but the miniseries was comically bad to me. I laughed at it the parts I saw, and not in a good way. Cheap, Cheap, Cheap and cheap. Showed in every frame. Kinda pissed at SciFi for even bothering with such a shitty effort. I'd honestly rather that series never happend, and the Sci Fi saved their money. I can't enjoy the miniseries. The bad acting, shitty sets, and horrible CGI ruin it for me. I'd rather delete the memory of what I saw. I'm a true fan of Dune. I jsut think the miniseries was embarrassingly badly made.

[@voodoochild1975az]

​@Alex Watson LOL... wow, you get that butt hurt that someone doesn't like something you like. If you like the miniseries, cool, enjoy it. I thought it was shit. I watched the first series, Dune, and based on that, skipped the sequels of what I thought was garbage. You know what, I'll even admit there is a slim chance that I might have loved the sequel, but based on the first series... not worth my time. I'd rather just read the book again. I will tip my hat to the writer's room on that show. They did well and told more of the story from the book. That was good. There was a good aspect to this. But basically it was ruined for me because SyFy are notoriously cheap bastards. One day, when you grow up, you will learn that people like and dislike things differently than yourself. You liked the miniseries. I didn't. I don't attack you for poor taste in enjoying cheap productions, I accept that you liked something I did not. Doesn't bother me at all. Good for you. Seriously watch it again and love it. If you enjoy it, knock yourself out, watch it as often as you like. But you need to grow up and accept that people have different opinions on things. In my opinion, ultimately the only one that matters to me, that series was hot garbage. Just my opinion. No one forces me to watch it, and I don't prevent you from watching it. Neither of us are 'wrong'. I bet I enjoy things you hate. That's just how the world works. You will learn that one day. The only joke here is your childish reaction. I mean, how DARE someone not like something you like lol Go in peace, I have no problem with you or your differing opinion. You are not wrong to like it, I am not wrong to not like it.

[@medievaldad9537]

84 looks the best

[@kylek2623]

Hahaha

[@wilsonruleman]

Hmmm

[@KawaiiChele]

That was great Matt, thanks for that

[@adolfopena7358]

When are they going to fully show the Baron?

[@manuelp6791]

Probably in other trailer or not until the movie is out

[@thribs]

They did. It’s the chap from the Thor movies

[@naaaman038]

They can't... he's too big for the whole screen

[@spaceman9599]

This is top notch work

[@beawesley5834]

“For he is the Kwisatz Haderach”....”No he’s not...he’s a very naughty boy!” 😂

[@sam_barris]

I see what you did there. :-D

[@edgarlarios4718]

Although the 2000 miniseries adapted the books faithfully, I feel it missed what made the books truly genius. The insight, philosophizing, strategizing, and mental acumen the books explore in many characters heads is what sets the story apart from the rest, and sadly that aspect will never make it to film.

nothing beats Patrick Stewart running around with a puppy in the middle of the battlefield! :D

[@ibnbattuta1304]

Now we can watch all three versions at the same time! 😁

[@Vanyx1000]

I haven't watched any of these (yet) and I'm sorry to say but the bottom two seem much more interesting. The 2020 version seems kinda cheap even though it has the most updated graphics/CGi, costumes, makeup etc. I don't know how to explain it.

[@Vanyx1000]

Why are modern movies nowadays so incredibly dark (the colours) and stale?

[@razorfett147]

I kinda feel that too. Cant put my finger on it. Everything just seems so paired down and bland.

[@fantesticlesnop5814]

I feel the same way. It's not very visually stimulating and that kind of makes it look boring.

[@kloonst]

It's the blandest and the least imaginative in terms of design i.e. costume, set pieces

[@posteador]

It's more dark than needed. A little brightness would go a long way. The palette is already pretty uniform with the sand colour and the greys, why double down by making it dark as well?

[@darthhodges]

This was a very interesting video idea that I'm surprised I haven't seen other people do with other things in the past. I hope I get to see more videos like it based on other properties.

[@GeorgeNadaYT]

Dune 1984 has a more cinematic feel than the other two.

[@fahad.2924]

That doesn’t make sense

[@Homeschoolsw6]

Wild. Thanks alot Matt Skuta. 2000.

[@GarrickMerriweather]

As an admitted fanboy of the novels, the Sci-Fi Channel (pre SyFy Branding) Mini-Series ( *_ƊUƝƐ_* 2000) was actually pretty good. The production was limited by money for what they could do on the small screen in terms of SFX, but story-wise, it was *VERY* respectful of the books. Whereas Lynch's version was trying to be this... thing, the TV Mini-Series was just a straight-up visual re-telling of the books which I enjoyed immensely. I have too many gripes about Lynch's version, but the only gripe I really have with the Mini-Series is Paul's age. Lynch's version fails here also. And While I absolutely *LOVE* Timothée Chalamet as an actor, c'mon hollyweird! Paul is 15 years old. IDK, maybe Timothée will pull off the whole #YoungCharacterThing as well as Tom Holland does. I'll have to wait and see. But I am super-hyped for this movie. The cast looks solid and Denis is a good director. Hopefully, the film won't suffer from too much virtue signaling and agenda posturing and just put forth a kick-ass movie. It was great watching *_Tenet_* in the theater. Here's hoping *ᑐ ᑌ ᑎ ᕮ* is also.

[@chriskelly3481]

Thank you for this. REALLY scratched an itch.

[@4567carter]

It don’t mean a thing if it ain’t got Sting.....

[@torn180]

Dune 2000 is my favorite