Dune: Part 2 - SPOILER Talk!

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DUNE: PART 2 is out! Let's talk more about the spoiler-ish realms of the film. Not gonna hit it all, because....there's a LOT. But here we go...
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[@stefanfilipovits21]

I love that dune is a story where “the good guy” winning is a genuinely terrifying thing to happen.

[@ashleyfairway.540]

Paul not exactly the good guy. give the movie credit for setting this up.

[@stefanfilipovits21]

@@ashleyfairway.540 that’s my point though. He’s ostensibly the “good guy” when you look at his enemies: the vain and jealous emperor, and cruel and duplicitous Harkonnen. But when you realize what Paul winning means for everyone in the imperium it’s like “oh…no. He won…”

[@Gx3Tri]

Protagonist is probably a better word to use, but I get what you're saying

[@zacharysieg2305]

It is the tragedy of a man who knows what that sort of power will do to him, and then uses that power to do exactly what he was afraid he would do.

[@DoctorJammer]

Chani is the true "hero" of the story. Denis elevated her with some of the changes he made.

[@seanlagunday168]

That part where Stilgard is like “he’s so humble, he has to be him” is my favorite part of the movie lmaoo I laughed so hard

[@DoctorJammer]

Watch Life of Brian

[@eriksanchez7286]

or after pauls final fight, Lisan Algaib lmaoo

[@christianjalexander]

Beautiful illustration of confirmation bias. I love what this movie does to represent skepticism and a cynical outlook on religion.

[@Lee-vb4vh]

​@@DoctorJammerdid Life of Brian use exact same line?

[@DoctorJammer]

@@Lee-vb4vh I'm just advocating for people to watch the movie, it's great. Here is the lines. Brian: ...Will you please listen? I'm not the Messiah! Do you understand? Honestly! Woman: Only the true Messiah denies his divinity!

[@o0bananaman0o]

In the books Artillery is an ancient weapon and completely useless against contemporary targets with shields, hence why no one thought of it before Feyd Rautha

[@Cwztian]

Thank u this makes way more sense now

[@bencarlson4300]

Same reason why the lasers and snipers in the beginning are so effective, ordinarily no one would use them because shields, but on Arrakis… ain’t no shields because Shai-Hulud gets angry from the vibration of shields.

[@jaysworld8055]

@@bencarlson4300I just saw the movie and this makes so much sense. I was confused at why they used guns on the helicopters but not on the ground

[@victorpleitez768]

Baron points out it’s the rocks and debris that will kill the fremen, making the artillery a smart tactic.

[@braind34d13]

It wasn't Feyd who thought of artillery, it was the baron, in the battle against the Atreides, but that was moved around in the movie, like so much else.

[@emiliohernandez7214]

When they told Paul that the other houses didn't accept his asscent to the throne and he just nonchalantly says "Lead them to Paradise" as in "Kill them all then"...that did something to me So powerful

[@jonascastejon5888]

He later admits to Stilgar years later in Dune Messiah that his holy war had killed aprox. 60 million people, and used the death toll of the Holocaust as a comparison.

[@SolidGoldHedgehog]

@@jonascastejon588860 Billion. Billion with a B.

[@trapjohnson]

@@jonascastejon5888 gonna push up the glasses here, off by an order of magnitude. Billion, not million. Which.... *mind asplode*

[@ltb1345]

@@jonascastejon5888 DAMN.

[@Kai-fb1ol]

@@trapjohnson That's three orders of magnitude. But yes, it's 60 billion.

[@fettfan91]

Big props to Timothee Chalamet for really conveying Paul’s transformation after drinking the Water of Life. Everything about him changed; how he spoke, the way he walked, even his eyes looked darker. That shift is crucial in the book and they nailed it in the movie.

[@jonascastejon5888]

True, and the transformation he suffers in Sons of Dune is tragic, he becomes a sort of leper Messiah.

[@HalcyonEX]

Can you please tell me where Paul is going? I never read the books and I just got done seeing the new movie and I can't help but need more information on if Paul is doing the right thing why does his sister talk to her mom? How did the water change Paul?

[@jackjohnson555]

@@HalcyonEXdude is about to become space Hitler with the destruction of the holy war

[@dosomestuff1949]

The water brought out the messiah that was already in him. At the end of the movie, Paul is waging war on all of the great houses.

[@TheycallmeMrWonka]

​@@HalcyonEXThen Google it?. Why do you need to be spoon fed the Information by someone else effort. You are that interested? Then don't be so lazy and use your own eyes. Hell, read the book even but if not that just GOOGLE IT.

[@paulreyes6221]

When Paul gave his speech to the Fremen, it gave me straight up chills.

[@stefanfilipovits21]

It’s terrifying

[@milanbaros-gi4pm]

"in your nightmares, you give water to the dead, it brings you great joy" powerful

[@paulreyes6221]

@@ashleyfairway.540 by your logic, the guild navigators are rubbish science too

[@ashleyfairway.540]

@@paulreyes6221 no just an essential part of the story missing from the movie..

[@milanbaros-gi4pm]

@@ashleyfairway.540 DV was very intentional from the beginning that this movie is a love story. Not much room for dune lore.

[@danz1182]

The subtle symbolism is so good. Throughout the movie Paul serves the Freeman and their cause, they make that point several times. The goal is winning Arakis for the Freeman. Then, at the final battle. In several beautiful shots, you see the Atreides banner carried by Freeman. They now serve Paul and his cause. They will fight a holy war that spans the empire in his name. Brilliant.

[@BrianKoppe]

I rewatched Part One immediately before seeing Part Two, and going from Paul's horror at seeing "a warrior religion that waves the Atreides banner in my father's name" to seeing it happen, under his leadership, just a few hours later was devastating.

[@adamplentl5588]

Fremen*

[@mrfreeman2911]

tbh it might as well be "free men".@@adamplentl5588

[@krishpache7271]

​@@BrianKoppeik right ... Even I watched it just a day before and I was horrified at whatever was happening in the last half of the film , I loved it but I was like this is going in such a cruel direction .

[@ThamsanqaTLJ]

Paul’s mother drinking the Water of Life first to create an expectation to the audience of what could it mean if Paul drank it was a perfect a way to create a soft landing for his instant character change after drinking it was perfect cause once Paul drank the audience was already expecting him to be something different and damn it delivered.

[@johncenter4858]

And let us be terrified about his sister.

[@Ben-fk9ey]

​@@johncenter4858Abomination!

[@GLASSB182]

@@johncenter4858 I love the casting choice of Anya Taylor-Joy as Alia of the Knife. Though I wonder if they recast Timothy as Paul, since Anya is already about his same age, Paul would have to be at least 18 years older than her.

[@DZatheus]

@@GLASSB182 hopefully they just age him with make up (CGI at worst).

[@sirequinox4874]

Final lines of the book: Jessica speaking to Chani: "Think on it, Chani: that princess will have the name, yet she'll live as less than a concubine--never to know a moment of tenderness from the man to whom she's bound. While we, Chani, we who carry the name of concubine--history will call us wives."

[@chriscotonou7765]

Sadly, I wonder if that wouldn't come off as politically correct. I did get the impression they made Chani more badass, and I found it strange that she disrespected her own people and customs so much.

[@grproteus]

​@@chriscotonou7765yep. This must have been a note from the investors. BlackRock is an investor in WB, and they are basically the modern day Harkonnens.

[@user-oj9hm6ss5i]

​@@chriscotonou7765I don't think she disrespected her people, she respected their autonomy, and saw them surrendering it to manipulation they weren't aware of. Think CIA , the Suadis and the Luce foundation pouring money into religious organizations that opposed modernist national liberation movements.

[@vissermatt1058]

@@chriscotonou7765 politically correct doesnt mean much within the stories context. the benewhatevers were super power psychics ordered to sleep with and control their partners/victims. Jessicas statement was meant to convey the shakespear quote, a rose by any other name would smell just as sweet or whatever. Chani is/will be Paul's female romancee, Irulan is a political hostage? Jessica lived the life of Leto's wife, even if it was never acknowledged politically. within the context of the characters, Chani doesnt need to be a duchess/emperess, she is the woman Paul loves/wants, if she wants him back thats up to her

[@chrispekel5709]

​@@chriscotonou7765oh that's exactly why they changed the ending. Don't want to come off as being too old fashioned in the final scene

[@achannell362]

Zendaya’s eye twitch when Paul said he would take the emperor’s daughter’s hand was EPIC

[@deepaksrinivasmondal]

Oh yes. I was mesmerized!

[@bowserbrowser6559]

...epic? Lol raise the bar

[@the5minsum442]

@@bowserbrowser6559why is there always some asshole like you in the replies that has to be all negative when someone praises something just stfu😂

[@mariosilva-th4ge]

yep zendaya is amazing

[@johans3164]

She was being a typical love interest in the first half but the second half transformed her completely. Some of Zendaya's best work just by her expressions alone.

[@danielz-v4083]

This was the first movie since Spiderman No Way Home and Endgame that made me think “damn, the overpriced IMAX ticket doesn’t feel that overpriced right now”

[@fpgmatthew]

Right there with you! Saw it in IMAX tonight, my first since… Dune Part 1!

[@LostScarf]

Agreed, saw it in dolby and it was awesome

[@robo5obionicgamer]

Meh no way home was all fan service, yes it was a good experience in imax but the movie overall sucks

[@danielz-v4083]

@@robo5obionicgamer boo hoo man, saying the movie “sucks” is just none sense as hell and a useless comment , good job

[@Gigga101]

Only $11 for IMAX lol

[@jakubport7361]

The scene where Paul survives the worm piss and then talks to the Fremen leaders/converting them. I had chills everywhere, just that scene is absolutely 10/10

[@robqwert2696]

Wait is it the worm piss or their blood? 🤣i thought that the lady drowned the small worm and extracted it's blood

[@doge8825]

@@robqwert2696it’s neither. It’s a substance the glands secrete after a worm drowns

[@ethankillion786]

Timothée Chalamet’s screen presence is absolutely astonishing in this movie, especially in the third act of the movie, that “SILENCE” voice was bloody loud in the IMAX theatre, my seat was shaking. And scene where he is addressing the Fremen and declares himself as Lisan-al-Gaib. Absolute chills. He nailed it as Paul Muad'Dib Atreides

[@chrispekel5709]

It was interesting how he managed to stop looking like a skinny little kid as he was in the first part to appearing strong, tall and fast, even though besides a bit of hair growth he doesn't physically change

[@NeverSaySandwich1]

@@chrispekel5709 It's all in how he carries himself. Walk taller, straighter

[@joshmonzo3571]

Not at all. He was an absolute weakling the entire movie. Nothing changed. If loud percussions and volume controls make you feel intimidated I feel bad for you. The lore tells you he has this Voice, and he can Silence people. It’s lazy storytelling. Add in the iMAX loud noises that follow the word silence and I guess weaker people will be struck. I felt nothing.

[@comancostin4623]

His performance was incredible, especially when he went South,the speech he gave, Jesus..

[@joshmonzo3571]

@@comancostin4623 First off, blasphemy! Secondly, he is a weak little runt, with no power, no skill, nothing. Made me just think the only two real men in the movie were dumber than they should’ve been for unquestionably following this child. Garbage Movie.

[@snowleopardSH]

Every time a worm came on screen you could feel the vibrations in your seat, it was phenomenal

[@danielawesome36]

I noticed how much reused footage was there tho😭😭😭

[@sevenobeats5566]

i know! they also had the great sounds and vibrations from the knockers they put in the sand to attract them

[@mirkecWii]

​@@danielawesome36 Cool, I didnt so idc

[@fritzthecat8158]

​@@danielawesome36they absolutely reused assets. People are so used to films being pure ass that when one comes along that's mediocre they blow it out of proportion

[@danielawesome36]

@@fritzthecat8158 To be fair, look at the budget of this movie. You would have never noticed how much cheaper this was to make that you thought.

[@isabelleroberge2857]

I love that when the emperor knelt and everyone else knelt except for Irulan and Chani. Irulan cuz she's gonna be Empress, but Chani because she is Paul's equal and the only one that can see the truth as what he is. I also really need them to include the navigators

[@PAULOSOUSADIAS]

Villeneuve already said that the navigator guild would feature prominently in Dune Messiah

[@jacksquatt6082]

You know who I wanted to see? Thufir Hawat. Dude was screwed over in the 80's version and now in the modern day too.

[@theiberianbadger0123]

My favorite part of the movie where stilgard shows Jessica the Well. It was awe-inspiring and then stilgard says “even if we were dying of thirst we would never drink this water.”

[@jefflawrence900]

The mirroring scenes where Feyd makes Rabban kiss his boots and Paul makes the Emperor kiss his ring. Adds to the sense of dread that Paul is teetering on the edge and perhaps embracing his worst fear, becoming a Harkonnen sociopath. Cold blooded and incredible storytelling.

[@04nbod]

Irulan hides behind her dad when she sees Paul for the first time

[@magetaaaaaa]

I mean... In the very next book he straight up tells Irulan that he'll have her strangled if she tries to have a child through other means. He's very cold and calculating in the later books.

[@grproteus]

​@@magetaaaaaait was necessary to do this, out of the million possible futures, there is only one that does not end with incredible pain for humanity and with him kinda alive, and he had to be like that to Irulan. Yes, the Fremen Jihad could have been much, much worse. The alternative was the universe burning and/or the Golden Path. Judging by the many books Irulan wrote about him, she likely understands.

[@DoremiFasolatido1979]

He's part Harkonnen, through Jessica...so...

[@DagobertX2]

@@04nbodAnd in the books it wasn't the first time she seen him. They already had a pretty good conversation, having some chemistry, on Arrakis before the night House Atreides got ambushed. And that pretty much why Irulan in the later books does things as she did. The problem is putting that banquette into the first part would extend the movie too much and for a first movie it would be too slow and probably boring for the audience, so I can't blame Villeneuve cutting that out.

[@stefanfilipovits21]

The scene of Paul Addressing the fundamentalists after he finally goes south was remarkably written and performed. Terrifying even when you realize what it means.

[@Lee-vb4vh]

Can you explain the meaning of North vs South and why it's terrifying? Thanks

[@EEVictory13]

It means he’s accepting the rule of “messiah” and in turn the catalyst for a genocidal holy war. The southern fremen are already more religious and devout as well as being warriors. Unlike the warriors of other planets-they have intense religious fervor. Think of the sardakar or the harkonnen warriors- they ran when things got intense, but the fremen wouldn’t run, they were the thing people were scared of.

[@lighthousefilms5530]

It was my favorite scene. Simply magical

[@stefanfilipovits21]

@@Lee-vb4vh it’s basically Paul accepting and instigating the Holy War he’s been terrified of since he first saw it. It’s him knowingly starting to walk the path that’s going to get 61 billion people killed in his name.

[@weirdshibainu]

@@Lee-vb4vhJust my opinion. I think it illustrates that the Fremen could never have won without Paul who came to understand that he was the catalyzing force between the various internal divisions in the Fremen. We tend to think the Fremen as a monolithic population but in reality the younger people in the North dismiss the more fundamentalist approach by those in the South. The meeting of the council demonstrates the diversity of the Fremen by not only dress, but by behavior. Chani makes references to Stilgar being from the South by his accent and his belief in the Messiah and benignly mocks him for it while respecting his ability as a fighter. Stilgar views religion as a liberating force, while she views it as a control mechanism as demonstrated by her excoriating those attending the council. Paul is deeply conflicted as he doesn't (yet) views himself as the Messiah yet understands that the Fremen needs to unite under the banner of a Messiah. Being an "off worlder" Paul had no other mechanism to unite the tribes and with the assistance of Lady Jessica, his innate political sense and military prowess became the "Messiah" even for the non-believers and the fundamentalists finally have a living, breathing Messiah. It is terrifying because the Fremen are now united as Paul now struggles with the temptation of becoming what he had claim he wasn't---a Messiah.

[@helloitsme7847]

Makes sense that feyd wanted to sound like his uncle. He is a sociopath who dreams of his uncles power. However he is not as patient and intelligent as his uncle, he has the same bloodlust as his brother and this combination is the reason why austin butlers acting was amazing.

[@deany2274]

The Dune films are shot/ directed so perfect that you feel like you're watching actual REAL places on the planets! Absolutely incredible visuals!

[@barrycarter7274]

There's a great KZbin video "how the sounds of dune were made" and basically Denis told them to make it sound/feel like a documentary. That's why it seems so real to us as the viewer

[@MrMozkoZrout]

Yeah that was the intention. Denis wanted the whole thing to feel like it's just somebody who sarted rolling a camera in a real place when stuff is happening. The music and everything is supposed to sound like it belongs to that place and even all the tech and costumes and locations are well thought out to be as grounded as possible. He also doesn't do the dumb exposition of explaining the current events to the audience. He just lets the characters go about their business and let's it all happen naturally. It also means he just hints at a lot of things and lets something be unexplained and all but that only reinforces the feeling that it's real.

[@eversafter13]

Watching this movie i just couldn't help but appreciate how much of a breath of fresh air it is to see a movie that shoots in actual locations, builds some real sets and has costumes and environments that are worn and dirty. It seems every movie and TV show is shot in a greenscreen box these days. Everything is so sterile and all the clothing looks like it just came out of a box with no wrinkles or dirt.

[@vissermatt1058]

the clothing thing isnt just a movie problem, so many tv shoes look like they are wearing brand new just printed from a machine outfits... its so fucking weird how the director doesnt make them power laundry them like 50+ times

[@MoAtreides]

Yeah it’s one of the reasons I hated the new avatar live action.

[@kassaken6521]

Looks at live action Avatar the Last Airbender 👀

[@danielz-v4083]

This felt exactly like what the newer Star Wars sequels should have felt like in terms of production, creativity, quality and overall, giving a fuck

[@LuisSierra42]

@@kassaken6521 actually ever single live action. One Piece worked better because the tone of OP is more cartoony

[@CHA2E]

Paul pacing back and forth waiting on the worm like a matador waiting for the bull as a subtle reference to his grandfather being a literal bullfighter got me insane levels of hyped and confidence just knowing he was gonna ride it. This is probably the greatest thing I’ve ever seen in a theater, it needs to be so so loud.

[@johnbernhardtsen3008]

when rides the grandfather of worms!dang it sounded like when I was walking home from school during a snow storm!

[@agarsorchids7708]

That is a very good observation!👍

[@Nooroodin84]

Yes…that scene was the loudest in the whole movie. I loved it.

[@arcaris9399]

Good call forgot about his Grandfather fighting bulls for sport 👍

[@Funnysquad-ps1ew]

Matadores don’t pace. They’re still

[@alexarroliga284]

One thing I loved was that at the end when Chani leaves Paul, he only looks disappointed. It looked like he hoped that it wouldn’t happen but it seems like Chani’s love for him (not his for her) was one of the many prices he would pay for his ascendancy.

[@shumbuk4383]

i thought that was great acting..i mean he looked to me like he didn't react at all..and the point wasn't that Chani left but that she kept standing, with Irulan, indicating she was the real queen and didn't have to bow in his presence...like he says earlier, he already knows she will come back to him..or we won't get little Leto II the God emperor.

[@juniorsundar]

@@shumbuk4383 I think Chani is pregnant already w/ child

[@ilz_y]

I actually really liked how the Harkonnen’s were killed off so quickly. The way they went from these intimidating monsters to cowering weaklings over the course of the two films, (especially the Baron, who died unable to move at Muad’Dib’s feet) yet it didn’t at all feel jarring or out of place. The film was a total rollercoaster ride of uncomfortable and horrifying emotions. I loved it.

[@NeverSaySandwich1]

Paul's speech to the Fremen was so incredible and Timothee Chalamet did a fantastic job showing the change from boy to leader

[@TheSuperRatt]

From boy to *ruler*. Shani was a leader. Stilgar was a leader.

[@danielz-v4083]

I knew he could act but I didn’t know he was THAT good. Might be one of the best acting performances I’ve seen from a Millennial actor

[@janellelives5158]

Yeah that was the moment right there!

[@jelliscorpio]

He did this in The King with Robert Pattinson as well.

[@360.Tapestry]

either he deepened his voice or they subtly modulated it in post to make him sound more authoritative

[@buki3009]

" NONE OF YOU CAN DEFEAT ME !!!" chills

[@Sheed96]

bro too gangster

[@buki3009]

@@Sheed96 fr

[@eriksanchez7286]

@@Sheed96 even chani said "hold up what did you just say" that scene was crazy good

[@casualfanatic4217]

After he said I was like “I will die for you!”

[@scottk1525]

I don't think that was the line. Wasn't it something like "none of you can stand against me?"

[@xsomeNOOBx]

While watching the movie, I was thinking, this is a trilogy that might be the first real follow up to the cinematic masterpiece of LOTR. This epic story, beautifully shot, with that tone of gravitas and still accessible. Really cements Villeneuve as one of the top directors of our time.

[@jamimurrahman9159]

I was actually thinking about Dune in relation to Star Wars, particularly in the context of inter-galactic politics and just the scale of the universe that exists in Dune. But yeah in terms of cinematography, I can see some LOTR. I really do hope that Dune matures into what Star Wars should have matured into though and it finds the support it needs and all, but I also believe Denis Villeneuve has to be in the driver's seat

[@Soundewave97]

The only thing holding is back is that LOTR and Star Wars have super lively, relatable, charismatic characters. Besides Javier Bardem there just is no one close to Han Solo, gimli, or the like

[@sericsson1996]

"While watching the movie, I was thinking, this is a trilogy that might be the first real follow up to the cinematic masterpiece of LOTR." Trilogy? Dune Part 1 and 2 aren't from book one? And the third movie will be about book two? Dune Messiah? Would that count as a trilogy? Is the 2nd book a good stopping point? I thought they'd adapt every book from the original 6/7.

[@lf1980]

@@sericsson1996 Movie trilogy isn't a book trilogy is all i'll say. Two separate things. So yes...I imagine they'll try to make it one though Honestly...I hope they make a movie or triology on every book. God it'd be amazing with so much source material. Though like everything the more studios try to cash in the more they fuck things up.

[@MMOLegend]

Javier Bardem once again owns this movie. LOVED IT!!

[@Senyuno]

I can't believe I didn't realize it was him. Such a stunning transformation. I'm so not used to him with Leonidas hair 😅

[@Nightsight971]

Did anyone else notice actor Everett McGill (the 1984 Dune's Stilgar) as the Sardukaur leader in the throne room when the Fremen break in? Great cameo!!!

[@GreekHouseEffect]

no, but that's super cool

[@Dracobyte]

I knew I recognized from somewhere!

[@Jimmyjim4]

That m’fer owes me money!

[@jamimurrahman9159]

YES!!! I thought I was the only one! I saw him- and I was like no way- he's from the original-so cool

[@James-wn9qc]

that's not the same person. it's steve wall in dune part 2

[@bradfordwilson4742]

The way Paul walked up to the Baron and stabbed him was the best non book scene in an adaptation I've ever witnessed. It just felt satisfying for Paul's arc to me.

[@leonardocucchiara4782]

I'm actually very glad they did that. I never liked the scene in the book. It's just too weird and creepy

[@mapletree3434]

Considering the tragic arc of the little one, I think they should've kept the book verson. The parallel of who destroyed who is more haunting in the original. IMO

[@bradfordwilson4742]

@@mapletree3434 True. I didn't even think of it like that.

[@davidfortygin5989]

How did it go down in tge books?​@@leonardocucchiara4782

[@jakemiller3850]

took me a second to put a few things together.. in the book alia stabs him with the gom jabbar, which only kills animals.. paul stabs him in the neck (where the gom jabbar goes) and tells him that he will die like an animal... homage to the original since there was no alia... i like it

[@mattwagnermovies6308]

I don’t usually give praise like this, but that scene of Paul approaching millions of his followers as he steps into his power…that was the coolest, most exhilarating entrance I’ve ever seen in a movie.

[@dinocollins720]

I absolutely loved the Harkonnen! They were so freakin creepy and captured the vibe I got from the books. Austin Butler as Fade may have been the best performance in the show. He may be the best villain I've seen since Heath Ledger's Joker!

[@dustinfoto]

"You die like an animal" was such a brutal line. Fucking loved it.

[@makatron]

He dispatched him like trash.

[@misterdoctor9693]

@@makatron Your trashcan must be a real nightmare of horrors.

[@makatron]

@@misterdoctor9693 luckily the lid provides airtight seal. 🤣

[@scottk1525]

I felt underwhelmed by that scene

[@stranger990]

I thought he said "he died like an animal" referencing his father but I'm dumb he doesn't even know how his father passed lol

[@gamezilla345]

That "6 or 7 books" joke was (unintentionally?) genius. If you're not in the know, the Dune books not written by Frank Herbert, the original author, are almost universally viewed as a bastardization, or at the very least, an inferior version of his world, and are often wholesale disregarded by the fanbase. Frank Herbert wrote 6 mainline Dune novels, as well as authorizing and overseeing an in-universe worldbuilding "Encyclopedia of Dune" shortly before his death. So, yes, many Dune fans would say "28 fuckin' Dune books!?!? So there's like 6 or 7..."

[@johnnobon]

Although, it seemed like his last book was left on a cliffhanger. So if they want to finalize the ending, they might need to take the two "finale" books his son wrote in some form or another. Maybe that would be a case where the adaptation could really blow the source material out of the water.

[@robertblume2951]

@@johnnobon no. its a bad ending the cliffhanger is better.

[@matiasdevaglia4541]

​@@johnnobonI agree. With some changes adapting books 7 and 8, like they already did with Dune Part 1 and 2, they could make an excellent finale for the saga in cinematic form. That cliffhanger at the end of Chapterhouse would make people riot in movie theaters.

[@yotuel9064]

@@robertblume2951 Sadly we live in this time and age. If the Dune saga reach the sixth book, be sure that the next books are gonna have "the hobbit" treatment. Sooner or later.

[@robertblume2951]

@@yotuel9064 That's fine there were no hobbit movies either.

[@ethanvilla4418]

Cinematic masterpiece. One of the best movies I've seen in YEARS and one of the greatest films of all time.

[@dazc1069]

The Fedayken just standing and staring menacingly at Paul as he pushes through them was ‘the scene’ for me. He’s not scared or intimidated walking through a throng of the baddest mofos in the Duniverse. No one says anything. The Fedayken don’t give him any quarter. Powerful badass scene.

[@jonascastejon5888]

The music is what made it so epic. I need to find that bit of music 🎵😊

[@user-nv2wt4hi8t]

Duniverse 😂

[@2bitnerd]

One of the best experiences I've ever had in a movie theater. This movie reminded me why I love going to the movies.

[@Pneumanon]

Same for me. Easily best cinema experience in years.

[@takhazel]

ive watched 3 times this movie is so epic

[@eon5323]

Huh... i thought it was just eh. Cinematography was obviously great but nothing with the characters or story landed with me. Really weird.

[@gobknobbler3465]

I like to think feyd sounding like the baron was a tactic to not only ingratiate himself with his uncle but to also exude the same aura of control over his men

[@patriot459]

This is a movie that I’m proud to have watched this in a good theater with a solid crowd. Like Jeremy says you could hear a pen drop on that last fight. While also you slowly start to feel the audience that is non book readers understand that they are not watching a hero’s rise this is something terrifying with the holy war beginning. Paul’s line at the end the great houses will not support him.. send them to paradise and stilgar is like say less bro I’m on it…

[@Crichjo32]

Dune coming in to rescue cinema at a most perilous time for the medium. A reminder of why we Iove going to the movies.

[@An00bisY00tubis]

The 1v1 at the end was one of the most intense duels in cinema history. As someone who hasn’t read the books, I genuinely felt like that fight could go either way.

[@nationalsocialism3504]

Pre drinking the Water of Life... yes, it could have since they were both just potential Kwizatch Haderach (they were actually supposed to be married and their kid was who the Bene Gesserit planned to be the Kwizatch Haderach.) Once Paul gets access to seeing the future potentialities clearly then there was no real contest... Paul isn't reacting or even acting, he is following a specific predestined series of actions to achieve the desired outcome. Paul did all the things that he needed to do to win which he was already aware before the fight happened... even the manner of his victory in that way would/could have been intentional for how being seen to win that way would affect future events.

[@ThecrazyJH96]

You haven’t watched a lot of movies then 😂 even someone not knowing how the story ends would know Paul would win either way. No intense at all

[@An00bisY00tubis]

@@ThecrazyJH96 It’s not out of the realm of possibility to see a main protagonist die in a movie, and Dune has had a couple of twists along the way, Paul’s grandfather being the Baron for example. Remember I hadn’t read the books, it seemed possibly to me that the unborn child could be the real Lisan al Gaib.

[@vidyavidyagames]

Ah yes, the protagonist we've been rooting for the entire time will lose. It never happens.

[@AFS-ht7bg]

I thought Paul let himself get stabbed so chani would feel bad

[@wispyluma76]

Fun fact about this movie is that the second kiss between Austin butlers character and Stelan Skarsgards character was unscripted.

[@notearthman794]

i fucking knew it 😂😂😂😂

[@christianjalexander]

That's awesome. I almost got that vibe. Love it.

[@tracyranger8007]

That's a good actor, knowing his character would totally do something like that. Felt like a psychotic power move

[@Pneumanon]

And then when the Baron died he almost creamed his pants with a mixture of ambition & sexual thrill. Great performance.

[@scottk1525]

Weird.

[@thatgeekdad]

The scene where Paul walks into the ship's throne room and goes right past the Emperor and his Sardukaur was so perfect. Everyone, even the mighty Sardukaur stepped aside and didn't want any violence from Paul. They let him walk up and kill the Barron. Look at the body language of the Sardukaur, they are clinging more to the Emperor than the Emperor to them. The mighty Sardukaur step aside and we can infer they just gave up and got taken into custody. They didn't die for their Master where Paul's fanatics would have rather died than let Paul be breathed on. That scene was just powerful.

[@Chilipotamus]

There's nothing to infer, Paul literally tells the Fremen to kill the Sardukaur and take the Emperor and his court as prisoners.

[@Miafunfactory]

I like when the Sardukar ran from the worms...that was epic...they were torn then they just noped enmaas

[@stormpandaram4542]

For some reason the Sardukar reminded me of the golden company from GOT. I expected to his elite force but when it came to it they were not even close the being a match.

[@ar1sm70]

I liked Chalamet, but I admit I was sceptical as to whether he could pull off the authoritative leader. But good lord the man killed it! That scene where he spoke to the gathered Fremen was incredible!

[@johnsailorsgoat]

The whole sequence between Austin Butler and Léa Seydoux is cinematic ecstasy!

[@echelonangel98]

Yes!!!! That was honestly my favorite segment.

[@IAMBATwal]

Wish we saw what went down lol Léa is so damn fine 😮‍💨

[@chrispekel5709]

​@@IAMBATwalI was more interested in the fireworks that looked like ink being dropped into water

[@stillsearching1284]

He wanted to get into her box of pleasure, but first, she made him enter her box of pain.

[@luxurybuzz3681]

@@IAMBATwal I beleive she's nude in a Wes Anderson movie.

[@ryanh3951]

They could have made it an hour longer and I would have been fine with it. Absolute masterpiece

[@Art-is-craft]

But could a general audience handle it?

[@deepaksrinivasmondal]

They SHOULD have. Some parts of it felt rushed.

[@MrZyphR]

​@@deepaksrinivasmondalyeah like when that fremen lady talk out all those Harkonen, they didn't show it.

[@DZatheus]

My bladder would have exploded.

[@XtrAMassivE]

Let's hope there will be an extended cut

[@SirGalahad_0]

Agree with you on how certain subplots and even plots were fastracked, like dune 1 and 2 were all leading upto the attack on harkkonans and emperor, and that whole whole attack is over quickly like less than 10mins

[@officialthomasjames]

Yea that was my problem. Paul barely faced any adversity fighting (who we thought) were threatening villains. It became uninteresting and predictable.

[@cheddarandsourcream]

The final duel was outstanding, great choreography.

[@Aaron-kj8dv]

Also great time to NOT use music. You just heard them hitting each other.

[@frankvizen5480]

I can't remember the last time I walked out of a theater and there were literal crowds standing around talking about the movie. So satisfying.

[@footysurfwow]

Dune is essentially The Life of Brian if Brians mother hadnt said "Hes not the Messiah! Hes just a very naughty boy!"

[@user-no9hp6km2e]

I was looking for this exact comment 😂

[@Dracobyte]

Also Sandworm.

[@RicardoMoralesMassin]

ahahahaha now I need an edit with Life of Brian audio over Dune 2

[@travisstockton7582]

I know this movie was amazing for one reason. I saw it in the morning so it wasn't that crowded, it was dead silent but I felt I had just watched a movie where everyone was cheering.

[@FutureKnut]

I get the Skarsgård thing, I literally thought they had cast one of Skarsgårds as Feyd when he showed up in the movie but I just couldn't tell exactly which one under all the makeup, but I just learnt from this video it was Austin Butler. The portrayal was still awesome as hell, Feyd felt like a true menace, intelligent and absolutely ruthless.

[@javi0313]

Yeah as someone who read the original 6 Dune books I don’t think the world is ready for a “God Emperor of Dune” adaptation💀

[@edwinalvarez3783]

Yeah, but I want it.

[@pacotaco1246]

Good, then it will be all people talk about when its released. Like if the disturbing shock of the red wedding was an entire film or two

[@aaronclemons2287]

This is definitely going to be one of the best translations from book to movie in the new generation. Yes they “skipped” a lot but there is way too much information to be told in a single movie.

[@JonathanFlexx]

Hard disagree. Very cool visuals and stuff like that, but it was nothing like Dune. Aside from Paul becoming the leader of the fremen and defeating the Harkonnen and the emperor nothing was like the book, like at all. Everything happened out of order, the flow of time is completely wrong, the villains were stupid and ridiculous idiots rather than masterminds in their own right being outplayed by Paul, his wit and more notably his prescience, the character motivations were all jumbled up, many (most) plot points skipped, the religious aspect being dangerous was forcefully and violently injected into your brain through Zendayas activism rather than being something to be figured out by the audience through Pauls inner conflict about the consequences of what he's doing (Pauls relationship with Stilgar and how it evolves tells this aspect of the story way better than a teenage girl screaming at everyone that they stoopid, wake up sheeple) etc etc. The film implies that everything that is to come could be avoided if Paul were to listen to Chani instead of his evil mother. In the books the holy war is inevitable no matter what Paul does since he set foot on Arrakis so he tries to route the least bloody way through it which inevitably goes to shit.

[@ScowlCzumly]

No music during the last duel between Feyd and Paul was so good for the tension

[@jimmycopas5192]

With his style especially with Blade Runner 2049, Villenueve needs to make a Batman Beyond movie 🎥 🦇

[@tonyhind6992]

I re-watched Dune last night and loved it so much more than the first viewing. DUNE 2. F***ing awesome movie; best movie of the last 5 to maybe 10 years.

[@buzondemadera]

Gareth Edwards would be a great director for Dune once Denis steps out. Immediately thought of him

[@afanofpeanuts7381]

I thought Rogue One was a 9/10. So I trust him. .

[@FlamingoSandwich]

Life of Brian said it best " only the true messiah denies his divinity"..."well what sort of chance does that give me"

[@pacotaco1246]

I hope this franchise gets to god emperor of dune. The fact that people feel like audiences "arent ready" is exactly why this movie needs to be made

[@echelonangel98]

I just got out of the theater. As a person that has not yet traversed through the books (working on it!), Denis absolutely captivated me with the balance of show vs. tell. The Harkkonen sets and visuals will be on my mind forever. Holy crap!!!!

[@chrispekel5709]

They actually veered into being Geiger-ish. Which was interested in that they looked a little this way in Lynch's version

[@kyleyoksh3097]

I smiled way too hard when Jeremy called the guards in the Arena fight “New Phyrexian”. I audibly screamed that when I saw them.

[@Senyuno]

I was hoping I didn't mishear that 😆

[@karasutenka]

Can we all just agree that Jessica was fully on her supervillan arc in this film? Like... damn. She was on that fucking *spooky* time.

[@bryce2fadeway]

Can we take a moment and appreciate with a like how incredible was Timothée performance as the Messiah speech? Such a charisma and power coming from a guy who just looks like a cool dude who likes videogames and hip hop music lol😅

[@SugarRushTimes2030-gs3qp]

I hope they really really really make part 3 and keep it going. The Dune franchise is what Hollywood has needed for a resurgence and it’s here. Thank the film gods🙏🏼

[@nateflores8160]

This is one of if not the best experiences I’ve had watching a movie I remember thinking it felt like a ride at universal studios or something with the sound and visual quality. The story is so good too

[@benmaguire1729]

Ive watched part 2 three times and i have to say that the love for the source material bleeds through. that and the beautiful attention to detail and , im sorry, the characters are treated so, so, so, so well!

[@jeremyjackson8288]

I was so excited watching this masterpiece yesterday. This film was amazing and the sound design was phenomenal as well.

[@chrispalmer3330]

I was stunned at the end of the movie. Could not get up at first. It was overwhelming for me, so much to think about and understand. My theatre was totally quiet throughout as I think others must have felt the same way. Amazing visuals...like forever good. The acting was top notch, the action was solid. The themes were powerful.

[@Tman001100]

This is one of the very few movies I've seen in IMAX and it is worth that IMAX ticket in every sense. We know what to expect visually and Denis exceeded that expectation again and Part Two definitely lived up to the hype, I'd say. Also knew it was gonna be more fast-paced but whew!! It was and then some! Very hard to say what my favorite scene is, I definitely need to see it again but any scene that gives me chills is typically my favorite scene/s and there are a few that did that for me in Part Two. One that stands out the most is not even an action scene so much, where Paul gives that speech to that epic sietch to the fundamentalists to the south after he has taken the Water of Life. Just Chalamet's delivery and the roar of the crowd and protests was just so heavy and well-done.

[@dylmanzana8583]

I don’t regularly watch movie reviews, but man I’ve been watching all of the videos on your channel for years religiously, even when I don’t plan on seeing the movie you’re reviewing. Your opinions are always so refreshing and I love that your style hasn’t changed over the years. So basically just saying thanks for your videos lol

[@bariizlam638]

I love your unique sense of humor and delivery not to mention your analysis!

[@kofei]

I just watch the movie on a theater with like 13 people and was so suprised that evryone was reacting to the movie. Mostly laughing evrytime Stilgar spoke, everyone gasped when Paul said he will marry Irulan and just enjoying the visuals of the movie. Outside of Marvel movies and A Quiet place I have never seen people reacting to a movie like they did with this one. Was fun.

[@jaredjacoby6168]

This movie was better than I expected it to be. It not only had great visuals and cinematography that pull you in the experience, but it has a fantastic story that kept me engage. I could have honestly watch this movie for another two or three hours and not be bored at all. It is that good.

[@mrrational2046]

When Paul say we need to act like Harkonens, movie goes so hard

[@360greece4]

What really convinced me about this movie is way better than 1984 version was the first worm ride of Paul. In this version you can feel the raw power of the Shai-Hulud, and when he eventually managed to hold on and ride it, it felt like such an accomplishment.

[@shithushihara2599]

I watched the movie today, and I gotta say this is one of the best movies I've watched on Big Screen, and on small screen too 😅I absolutely love almost every movie of Villeneuve, and this one, with the action, cinematography, soundtracks, BGM that gives you goosebumps and the sci-fi core, made it a masterpiece. A must watch on big screen for sure.

[@texaskc]

Yes, the people beside us and behind is have no clue what was going on, and it made me kind of wish I didn't too. The "Oh mam! NO WAY." was kind of epic in a way.

[@JoshuaWold]

Dune 2 was such a ride. I got to experience it in iMax last weekend and loved it. If you get a chance I'd love a review of Cabrini. It's quite a different type of film, but I was really inspired by it and I'm so proud to be a tiny part of the team helping to bring this story to the world, please consider reviewing it!

[@kiratherenegade1561]

Nothing like watching your protagonist lose everything, step up to fight back & take everything from everyone who hurt him, even if it turns him into a monster.

[@Captainkebbles1392]

i love the changes to Channi...because she was the only one who saw what is coming

[@ahumanlearner]

2 things: i’m mostly under the impression that for those that have read the book/s, this movie is even better bc you already understand the stranger concepts and what the whole deal is with Paul and his mom/sister. but having seen other people who have read the book talk about the same kind of confusion, i realized that what i was experiencing was even one step further, since i had chosen Dune as my subject for my senior paper. doing that, reading that book multiple times, inside and out, puts me beyond what we got to see on screen for the last 20% of the movie, so when i take myself out of the book knowledge i definitely understand the confusion. i dragged my girlfriend along with me and she said she only understood the parts that weren’t in english bc they at least had subtitles 😅. second, i’m scared for what will happen when Denis leaves, i feel like his touch really brings these movies together. i know at the very least it will be different, and that alone could diverge and create a whole new tone, even if it’s not a bad one. we’ll see tho, this one was amazing at least!

[@WatchGuyJive]

I approve your sponsor. So many on KZbin are sponsored by junky watch brands but Hamilton is legit!

[@DavMCycle]

I agree Jeremy, sometimes the theater was silent and focused on the movie, that is pure movie magic right there.

[@philingrouille7198]

YES, a new Dune movie every THREE years. Give us the epic and suspense of the Hollywood blockbuster back. Bring the magic back.

[@benfisher6978]

I love how Paul is just so fucking evil but nobody can see it because they’re all so blinded by self interest and fanatic beliefs but if they make dune messiah this’ll maybe be the best trilogy of the last decade imo

[@BrianKoppe]

I'd say he's worse than evil; he's corrupted. Evil is easy to identify-the Harkonnens are evil. Paul is something entirely more insidious, dangerous, and tragic.

[@ayushtibrewala535]

The score and visuals gave so many goosebump moments😵 Reveal of paul and jessica being harkonnen had me having my hands over my head😮

[@Present4]

You know I respect your content when I dont skip over your initial promotion for the sponsor

[@ED2THEMAX]

After seeing Oppenheim I think Christopher Nolan would be an excellent pick for one of the books going forward. His obsession with time would work well with the later books in the series.

[@alexanderforbes1452]

This is the first movie in a long time that I've seen in the theater and came out wanting to see it in the theater again. The sound was so incredible, the scene where they're attacking the spice harvester made me feel like I was being attacked myself. It was totally transporting.

[@anasshahid224]

Just watched Dune 2 and man it was absolutely incredible, one of the best movies I have seen in a long time. The cinematography was so good, the entire movie and set pieces were all beautifully shot, the story, action, epic Hans Zimmer soundtrack, everything was top notch. Denis Villeneuve truly one of the best directors today. The cast was great, Timothée Chalamet gave the performance of a lifetime and stole the show as Paul Atreides. A truly worthy sequel. So excited for Part 3.

[@davidmanning2859]

The whole blue worm piss gave me cult cool aid vibes. The whole build up to Paul debating going south i kept yelling don't drink the cool aid.

[@rubyjohn]

Great talk, thanks for sharing!

[@nickmominee9432]

Didn't expect the Phyrexian reference. Yawgmoth would be proud

[@Jang9851]

Thank you Jeremy for being the very few really highlight the nuance and suggesting that Paul can be absolved by his actions because he's enlightened by something others don't that he can be victim of unfair judgement by carrying the burden of prescience.

[@mcleanentertain]

Insightful! I can't wait to hear your review of Cabrini!

[@RajeshJustaguy]

just watched it... i love it. It was grandios, and magnificent. And the design and photography was just wonderful

[@Arturhorn]

Phyrexia looking guys... You freaking nerd, nailed it 😂

[@robharley7539]

"An event that Cinema needs" 🙏 Solid. Thanks man.

[@noor-ud-dinmohammed2569]

Everytime I see a watch in Jeremy's videos I pause it to try and figure out what kind of is. Knowing he's Hamilton man makes me proud.