Dune - Paul and Jessica uses The Voice on Harkonnen

Paul and Jessica uses The Voice on Harkonnen

[@arealperson641]

post the scene where the whole dune movie is played on a screen

[@davecrupel2817]

😂

[@sixofone8663]

ah yes, that scene is particularly good

[@IamBean334]

Favorite scene

[@robieosborne7369]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@slackjoelyokel88]

😂

[@dbg32]

Seriously badass scene. I love how immediately after killing that last Harkonnen Jessica is straight back to bitching out Paul about his pitch being too forced lol.

[@howarddewing6617]

I just read this part in the book today. She doesn't say anything to Paul but it's written that she thinks his voice wasn't low enough.

[@prashantkumarbiswal2164]

That's universal mother syndrome 😂

[@buckleymordecai9605]

Ever the mother.

[@badvsbads391]

With the Bene Gesserit the lessons never stop.

[@albionicamerican8806]

But Paul's use of the Voice worked, though.

[@drugsarebad97]

I love how he knew his technique might only work once if he really focused so he used the one chance he had to free his mom

[@aboxofbeans]

Paul is smart

[@tennyson988]

I love how fast and seemly she can use the voice.

[@strikeforcealpha9343]

Interestingly, at that moment she is more powerful than Paul, he has to concentrate, she can do it at a whim.

[@brianm3160]

She was the top best student in their academy

[@VV-nz4dv]

mother reverend said she was her greatest student

[@joannelim7375]

Chuckled at the "Your pitch was too forced" sentence. A mom never stops teaching her kids to sharpen/perfect their skills even after a deathmatch. Like a mama lioness teaching her cub how to use his claws better after completing their first hunt together. Even their run for survival on the dunes was played out like a mama lioness and her cub. I enjoyed their mother-son dynamics in the movie, adds a nuanced gentleness in the mix of grand space and hard battles. I've been on a NatGeo marathon sorry.

[@Sidragrosm]

Jessica Atreides wasn't a "lioness..." She was a Nemean Lioness! (And she DAMN sure built HER Cub to win!)

[@GraemeGunn]

"A mom never stops teaching her kids to sharpen/perfect their skills even after a deathmatch." What the fuck are you talking about? lol

[@Sidragrosm]

@@GraemeGunn That's Lady Jessica for ya..! Just because her son ~basically~ saved her from being (ahem!) "badly used" let's say..? doesn't mean she wouldn't critique the method employed. (Then again, if the HAD tried to get busy on her, they'd have had to at least untie her legs - that would have been MORE than enough for her to break loose and kill them!)

[@edhoughton2609]

@@GraemeGunn Your profanity says more about you than the person you are abusing.

[@antiracistbaby1085]

Oh really? Mine just brings me food males my bed, gets me candy movie tickets, I think all your mpms just suck LOL

[@demarcusanderson4205]

Scene was so satisfying to watch. She really let them have it. The voice, while creepy, sounded perfect. Especially with the "Kill him!" and "Set us free!" lines.

[@jb-xs8bo]

“Stop. Cut the rope” simple lines but said so badassly

[@gonzaloNMF]

Before the Jedi, there were the Bene Gesserit. The novel was years ahead of its time. People were mind blown by the political schemes of the ASOIAF books, but Frank Herbert was writing about the same topics three decades earlier.

[@mojotheaverage]

And better at that

[@Da_Homie12]

Nobody was mind blown

[@spadeecstasy8709]

Bene Gesserit or whatever the fuck is called is ass tho lmfao dune is literally a weird ass movie i didn’t understand shit while star wars remains to be a great movie lmfao star wars > midune

[@rexringtail471]

I don't know if it was so much that it was ahead of it's time, as it created all the themes and motifs that sci-fi has been ripping off for decades.

[@NarasimhaDiyasena]

Jedi comes fro Jidai in Japanese meaning era. Era of what? Skywalker, derived from Dakini in Sanskrit referring to a group of individuals often associated with Vajrayana Buddhism who have the Abhijna (Higher Knowledge) and the ability to manifest such knowledge into reality via Iddhi (Psychic Powers). Occult Buddhist Orders that pertain to this are the Adepts of Agartha headed by the Dalai Lama, Order of the Green Dragon headed by the Emperors of Japan, and White Lotus headed by the Emperors of China, all of which were co-partners. Emperor Ashoka of Maurya had his Nine Unknowns but their objectives were separate. In WWII the Adepts of Agartha and Order of the Green Dragon co-partnered with Hitler and his SS of the Fourth Reich. When Berlin was sacked many SS in Tibetan Attire and Monks were found having committed Seppuku (Samurai Suicide).

[@albionicamerican8806]

Jessica: "Your pitch was too forced.' Paul: _"Put your gag back on."_

[@brianm3160]

Can't work, she can nullify the voice

[@sazebalam5264]

@@brianm3160 that's a joke man.

[@harleyb7880]

@@brianm3160 I didn't know that😎

[@pantau7337]

@@brianm3160 how? in the beginning of the movie, paul almost makes her to fetch water glass, she did not seem in full control of herself at all....

[@brianm3160]

@@pantau7337 because she let herself get controlled for training purposes. The same way you'd let your trainee beat you so as to teach them a technique

[@MrDoot-hj2ir]

Straight up killed three men and then scolded her kid about his pitch not being perfect Certified Mom moment

[@splunkmastah4609]

Such a Badass scene. Lady Jessica has likely played the "wise but fragile mother" role all Paul's life. I love how disarming it is to go from the woman who was barely holding her emotions in, to letting righteous anger allow her to take complete and utter control of the situation. This movie is full of badass women, but Jessica's scene here takes the cake for me.

[@crofoegbu6535]

One of my favorite scenes from this movie. Loved how the sequencing of melee and Voice use played out. As if Jessica and Paul weren't so much winning a fight as solving their way out of a puzzle.

[@Jedizen07]

Honestly, I LOVE this film. Always enjoyed the book and previous filmed versions of Dune. But, this film just blew me away, with it's attention to the smallest detail and the sense of actually BEING with the characters in their environments. What a masterpiece. I CAN'T wait for part two!

[@Johnston212]

I went in with that same mindset, but I left very disappointed.

[@Sifu-intraining]

Its interesting that in the book Paul is noted later at how skilled he is with using the voice

[@catherinesanchez1185]

It occurred to me after watching this on DVD at home, that this was probably the first time Paul has seen his mother kill someone.

[@TheJoker718]

Yeah, he looks especially shocked when she stabs that guy because it’s her doing the physical act.

[@scotthartman8993]

most likely since he at this point had also never killed someone

[@albionicamerican8806]

0:12 Otherwise equivalent to saying, "Finish him!:

[@CuttingEdges]

This film does a great job at showing how strong a Sister of the Bene Gesserit really is!

[@Johnston212]

Except when it comes to emotional control

[@termigasts5227]

I kinda got that impression when the reverend mother was testing paul and said "Your mother is outside, they will not get past her" or something to that effect. Implying she would kill anyone attempting to interrupt

[@thorodinson3932]

Jessica is hardcore.

[@ainnothin9854]

Love this scene, really shows Jessica's power.

[@Trazynn]

This was definitely the most Villeneuve scene of the entire movie.

[@rexringtail471]

"Just throw some stock footage from Sicario in there"

[@burburchacha]

0:45 Paul looks terrified of his mother for how she brutally slashed the Harkonnen pilot

[@arklinmike]

Oh man... I can see myself. "Cut The Grass"... *mows lawn* "Wash The Car"....

[@UNSTABLE111]

People say the book is better at this but I actually disagree.., I preferred the more pragmatic and straightforward jessica that was portrayed here..

[@Kevstar19]

I completely agree, I just finished the book for the 1st time yesterday and although I like the scene in the book...I feel like if they tried to replicate it in the movie, it would come across as a little...goofy? That's not the best word for it but it would just be a bit awkward. Denis did a fucking amazing job with this scene.

[@Gabronthe]

Trying to be too close to the source is a mistake to be made and I'm glad the director knew what was better.

[@Myndir]

No, I think she's boring.

[@radionoakmont7756]

one of my alltime fave dune scenes

[@Johnston212]

Really need to go back and compare the 3 versions of this scene. This movie definitely tries to dumb down the way the voice is used. It can be used in these short commands, but it was frequently depicted as being used conversationally.

[@UparmoredClownCar]

Damn. I love a woman who knows how to say what she wants from you

[@dkthg]

"GIVE ME THE D".

[@Kevin3dp]

@@dkthg 🤣🤣🤣

[@elysium0093]

Post the scenes where Duncan fights the sardakaur

[@spooneater9001]

So this is what it sounds like without the IMAX experience

[@beezzarro]

Saw the thumbnail and thought this was a fan fic of guardians of the Galaxy

[@a_sorry_Asari]

I wish this scene was played out like the book. Shows how cunning and deceptive she can be. Oh man and the one on one with her and Thufir would be cool too.

[@091188ruben]

Perfect example of moms will be moms.

[@mrbrown7668]

Does sardaukar chant use the voice too?

[@captainscarlett1]

My pitch was too forced? It worked, dinnit?

[@brianm3160]

It did, but Jessica's was more fluid and consistent, his wasn't - kinda cracked

[@aimbotarrow5981]

This is actually one of the scenes that I feel like the book did better. In this, Jessica simply tells the guards to let her go and get rid of the deaf one, while in the book she basically turns them against each other by “seducing” one, causing them to literally fight over her. It moves away from the now classic Jedi mind trick and is more persuasive than outright commanding.

[@stevowilliams8279]

I preferred it as well, I watched the film before reading the book and I didn't realise the book didn't use this star wars version of the voice, i thought it was always like that in the lore.

[@conorquinlan9444]

Ya definitely a misinterpretation on Denis’s part. My understanding of the voice from the book was that it was the careful choosing of words and pitch (warranted as seen in the film) and manipulation thereof to plant seeds in the victims mind and make them vulnerable. This was one of the parts of the book that impressed me the most and one that I felt the film did a disservice to by making it like the jedi mind trick as you said.

[@soufian2733]

I didn’t think this was a bad change at all. “Persuasive seducing” would’ve been too confusing on screen and Denis is extremely faithful to the book so I’m sure they tried to adapt it like that but it didn’t work. Besides, the Voice is also portrayed as outright commanding later in the book (Paul using it on Sardaukar spies)

[@KyberEagleProductions]

Oh wow i'm glad Denis didn't include that in the movie. That would have been a disaster.

[@milotura6828]

@@KyberEagleProductions yea twitter would have smashed it

[@bazbuco]

I think the sound design for this movie is phenomenal but I think the specific processing they settled on for ‘the voice’ sounds too much like a diabolical giant bug villain. it’s kind of silly tbh. It could be much warmer, even seductive, something that marries masculine and feminine together. or go in a different direction and mix those compressed/low frequency EQing with something innocent and child-like-something to contrast against the severity of phrase like “kill him”

[@rexringtail471]

I agree halfway. They should have used an infrasound effect, but the liability would be high. The voice is not really up to the quality of the rest of the film. Infrasound would have both grounded it in one of the only known sounds that could have the effects the voice purports to, and also freaked the audience out.

[@alexv1154]

The sound design for the Voice doesn't really come across on youtube. In theatres it literally shook our seats with the force of it. also, the Voice isn't a seduction, it is an absolute command that overules all other thought.

[@moonlight39echo]

@@alexv1154 Exactly, it was meant to be primal, old, the voice of generations speaking with you. Too many times is a succubus whispering in the ear, giving you what you desire. The Voice, the voice screams at you, you are nothing but a tool to MY will.

[@Johnston212]

After I saw this in theaters, I went home and watched the Sci-fi Channel Miniseries. I think that theirs was a bit better. The nature of the BG is that of subtlety and deception, playing out a long game while pretending to exist only to serve. The sound of the voice should reflect that, but it comes across as too loud and coarse.

[@Myndir]

I think the problem is that, while the film is well-made, it's not creative. So voice = big scary monster sounds was as much as they could imagine.

[@marcinzysko1653]

she kind of sound like an old school witch

[@illerac84]

As all Bene Gesserit are

[@Spacecorgi]

Her disappointment in her son can give Asian parents a run for their money.

[@windward2818]

I think the command "Kill Him" is a bit unspecific enough for a knuckleheaded Harkonnen. What if he killed Paul instead?

[@brianm3160]

Eyes

[@Myndir]

Shh... This isn't a thinking movie.

[@tauIrrydah]

After all the good work done in the first voice seen, to just do a shitty digitized one here, was so disappointing.

[@AdvancedKrizalid]

That's again one of the scenes that shows how superior the previous movie was , it was so much better executed and frankly more in character regarding Jessica. The voice in the new movie is just some stupid batman sore throat.

[@Johnston212]

I went home and watched the Sci-fi Channel Miniseries after I saw this in theaters. With the exception of the visuals, score, and some of the cast, it was a far better Dune experience

[@AdvancedKrizalid]

@@Johnston212 Wasn"t talking about the mini serie,I've never seen it. I forgot it even existed , I'll go correct that this weekend.

[@retro3329]

Idk this version of the voice is more cinematic and leaves a bigger impact on the audience.

[@AdvancedKrizalid]

@@retro3329 No it's not. The version in the first movie was way more dramatic and the sound effect had a lingering effect which represented well the fact that it was seeping in the target's mind. The new movie is such a letdown ... I waited years for this....

[@Myndir]

@@AdvancedKrizalid It's basically super-safe Dune. The director has a high profile commercial failure (Blade Runner 2049) and was essentially given a second chance by Hollywood, provided he didn't do anything too "out there". That's why the Duniverse comes across as so generic. The film is visually great though, in a paint-by-the-numbers way.

[@sirenlyfox]

Francesca Annis ( Dune 1984) did a better job.

[@gutzz1519]

She was very dull i felt in the 1984 film

[@heygoodbyee]

Then go watch that video! Negative ass

[@sirenlyfox]

@@heygoodbyee lol, no. Please stay mad!

[@ajoliva95_vigilante_anime_86]

@@sirenlyfox 1984 movie is nothing like the book 2021 is a masterpiece

[@sirenlyfox]

@@ajoliva95_vigilante_anime_86 The casting for 84 was better period.

[@rosefandom285]

I also prefer the way the voice is used in the book but I guess it would appear very “strong woman 2021” to have a woman using her looks to one over a man. Not that I think that way, personally I thought it was Jessica using the situation to her advantage over just relying on her looks but you know Twitter wouldn’t have liked that

[@TheVagabond627]

What do her looks have to do with any of this?

[@therandomquakers]

Dude... Jessica's a total badass in the books. What are you even talking about?

[@tims4966]

This is more effective in showing 1) they are on borrowed time and 2) the emotional toll on Paul later when it comes to killing. Although he knows they must escape, you can still see Paul is horrified when Jessica starts taking lives which ties in to the last part of the movie: a part of him must die to start his life with the Fremen.

[@magicalmagicmagician5223]

@@TheVagabond627 in the books she seduces them turning them against each other gradually using her looks In this it's Jedi mind trick Not that I mind personally I think both versions were cool

[@Myndir]

@@therandomquakers Right, but in Current Year, a woman can't be seductive and badass.

[@istzombart3429]

What a poor scene compare to book

[@brianm3160]

Grow up

[@mojotheaverage]

I love the book but I actually prefer this version. It gets across the urgency and immediacy of their situation better which certainly works better in a screen adaptation

[@Myndir]

Yes, one of the more disappointing parts of the film. 40 years of sound design and it's less interesting than Lynch's version!

[@MrMoorkey]

Ahhh...the George Lucas version of this part. No subtlety. No insinuation. Why be subtle and get the Harkonnens to kill each other when you can just yell at them and fight them yourselves, putting not only yourself, but POSSIBLY THE MOST IMPORTANT BEING IN THE UNIVERSE AT RISK????

[@gwilym1991]

Presumably because a book can take its time to detail how much better at using the voice Jessica is at this point than Paul but that's a lot harder to show in a movie except through speed and consistency. Also way more difficult to retain tension for that length of time.

[@tomasaguirre1764]

My unpopular opinion? This is a weak, bland, white-washed, tasteless imitation of the original Dune, which was, is, and ever will be a CLASSIC.

[@MrThefoxyone]

Shame you're wrong

[@tomasaguirre1764]

@@MrThefoxyone The original touched my soul... this version sucks balls.

[@tomasaguirre1764]

@@MrThefoxyone Yes, it is a shame you're wrong.

[@MrThefoxyone]

@@tomasaguirre1764 it's embarassing you think such a highly rated movie is bad. Weak? Not at all, the atmosphere is amazing, production quality is amazing, actors are amazing. White washed? What? There are multitudes of various races, if anything white is the minority in the movie. The 1984 Dune was a shitshow. Its alright. Not a classic. Your opinion isn't unpopular, you're just trying to be an edgy boi and failing. The movie is a 10/10. Your opinion is objectively wrong and a bad take

[@tomasaguirre1764]

@@MrThefoxyone Well, John ... I'm sorry you feel that way, about such a soulless, boring, unoriginal piece of garbage; but I'm not angry, I just ... feel sad for you. 😔