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Shield Practice I'm Not In The Mood Knife Fight Dune 1984 vs 2021
Dune (titled onscreen as Dune: Part One)
is a 2021 American epic science fiction film directed by Denis Villeneuve with a screenplay by Jon Spaihts, Villeneuve, and Eric Roth. It is the first of a planned two-part adaptation of the 1965 novel of the same name by Frank Herbert, which covers roughly the first half of the book. The film stars an ensemble cast including Timothée Chalamet, Rebecca Ferguson, Oscar Isaac, Josh Brolin, Stellan Skarsgård, Dave Bautista, Stephen McKinley Henderson, Zendaya, David Dastmalchian, Chang Chen, Sharon Duncan-Brewster, Charlotte Rampling, Jason Momoa, and Javier Bardem.
Dune premiered at the 78th Venice International Film Festival on September 3, 2021. Warner Bros. Pictures is scheduled to theatrically release the film internationally on September 15, 2021, and then in the United States on October 22, where it will have a simultaneous release on the HBO Max streaming service for 31 days.
Cast
Timothée Chalamet as Paul Atreides, the ducal heir of House Atreides.
Rebecca Ferguson as Lady Jessica, Paul's Bene Gesserit mother and concubine to Duke Leto.
Oscar Isaac as Duke Leto Atreides, Paul's father and the Duke of House Atreides bestowed with the stewardship of Arrakis.
Josh Brolin as Gurney Halleck, the weapons master of House Atreides and one of Paul's mentors.
Stellan Skarsgård as Baron Vladimir Harkonnen, Baron of House Harkonnen, enemy to House Atreides, and former steward of Arrakis.
Dave Bautista as Glossu Rabban, the nephew of Baron Harkonnen.
Stephen McKinley Henderson as Thufir Hawat, the Mentat of House Atreides.
Zendaya as Chani, a young Fremen woman and Paul's love interest.
David Dastmalchian as Piter De Vries, the Mentat of House Harkonnen.
Chang Chen as Dr. Wellington Yueh, a Suk doctor in the employ of House Atreides.
Sharon Duncan-Brewster as Dr. Liet-Kynes, Chani's mother and the leading ecologist and peacekeeper on Arrakis.
Charlotte Rampling as Gaius Helen Mohiam, a Bene Gesserit Reverend Mother and the Emperor's Truthsayer.
Jason Momoa as Duncan Idaho, the swordmaster of House Atreides and one of Paul's mentors.
Javier Bardem as Stilgar, the leader of the Fremen tribe at Sietch Tabr.

[@marcinradziejewski6086]

The 1984 Dune shield looks like it could stop a tank projectile.

[@samd2013]

Well it could lol. Same with the 2021 dune shields. Fast moving objects can’t go through the shield, so a tank projectile would be stopped it in both 1984 and 2021

[@raph9831]

And it probably could, yeah

[@thefriendlyknight]

Technically both could I think. I know both render standard firearms obsolete.

[@user-lz5kh5zn3r]

​@@thefriendlyknightI didn't read the original novel but since when the characters get hit they clearly receive some shock, I'd say a tank projectile is still lethal to a human

[@iancasleton6356]

​@@user-lz5kh5zn3rsame way a helmat may not break but your brain still jiggles and hits the walls of your skull

[@kylemacbeth3628]

"They used CGI to fake the moon landing!" CGI in the 80's:

[@erosgritti5171]

It's not computer graphics. They simply drew on every single frame

[@DubiousDenarius]

@@erosgritti5171 Yeah, and why is that?

[@TrickyTricky914]

@@DubiousDenariusI mean… that’s literally what they did. To clarify: for the really blocky shields, that’s not CGI; it’s hand-animated, drawn-on frame by frame.

[@DubiousDenarius]

@@TrickyTricky914 And to OP's point, that's a very good argument why they did not fake the moon landings with CGI... Bacause they could not even if they wanted to.

[@adrvapor9433]

have you seen 2001 a space odyssey tho?

[@elirayzor]

The fact that the original shields were *hand animated, frame-by-frame*

[@TheRealSamPreece]

Seems like a waste of time and money.

[@numbernine5044]

The animators said "The 3D department said they would be anatomically accurate. .They told us they would block it in. "

[@ecurb10]

Sure? They did have primative CGI back then. Tron was made two years before.

[@Mintteacup_]

@@ecurb10 if i remember correctly that wasn't cgi and live action. When they blended the two it was cut outs. (I may be wrong so forgive me)

[@SetuwoKecik]

@@TheRealSamPreece from today's perspective, yes

[@GarredHATES]

Man, Patrick was just born old

[@adamdavidsoddities8573]

Right? Lol. I still love the dude tho

[@QuarkGamingLLC]

He’s like Morgan freeman. He just appeared one day in his mid forties and started acting

[@apertureemployee215]

dude has some sort of hair condition; he literally went bald in his 20s. Lucky for him, he makes it work

[@SwayneIII]

@@QuarkGamingLLC Tommy Lee Jones too! Born at age 50

[@Rqblt]

Like christopher loyd

[@ridethasno]

The original film sure does have a lot of futuristic Minecraft vibes.

[@Firefox13A]

I was thinking more "Command and Conquer" vibes.

[@WTFisTingispingis]

*oof*

[@itsok6640]

You're right, it's way more imaginative and cooler than a slight blue sparkle

[@Connor8609]

@@itsok6640 it's terrible design

[@itsok6640]

@@Connor8609 I'm sorry that graphics weren't what they are now *37 fucking years ago*

[@residentidiot5998]

It took them 30+ years to fix their hitboxes?

[@Tiger74147]

Okay this gave me a laugh

[@lambchop58]

The had plesioth hitbox

[@davecrupel2817]

😂😂😂

[@maestrolodahl8681]

Hahaha! Frakking awesome comment! :D xD xD xD

[@ganii1804]

awh hell naw atreides got dem janky ass hitbox

[@chris__929]

I’m just glad both versions of Paul found the mood

[@andreasretsinas2142]

Best comment here! 😅

[@bhante1345]

​@@andreasretsinas2142awright, calm down.

[@Scroolewse]

Was the "I'm not in the mood" followed by "it looks like you've found the mood" in the book? I don't remember. I just think it would be awesome if it was a line made for the Lynch movie and Denis took it straight from there, it fits so perfectly in this scene.

[@spacebassist]

@@Scroolewse something to that effect: "..you fought some better when pressed to it. You seemed to get the mood.” (p.40)

[@AAA-tc1uh]

One thing the 84 version nailed correctly is the voice alteration through the shield, IIRC the book specifically mentions this.

[@trla6505]

That's interesting, so the air coming out of the person sounds different or is it just the vibration?

[@AAA-tc1uh]

From the book: “Paul snapped the force button at his waist, felt the crinkled-skin tingling of the defensive field at his forehead and down his back, heard external sounds take on characteristic shield-filtered flatness.”

[@johneden2033]

@@trla6505 Probably everything. Air still has to pass through the shield otherwise the user would suffocate, so the shield is going to alter the soundwave as it travels through the air, like how a spinning fan does. So the user hears everything slightly distorted and everyone else hears the user's voice distorted.

[@jeremycraft2445]

Yes, the shield dampens 'fast moving vibrations' as well as blades, resulting in the 'shield-filtered flatness' as quoted by @AAA-tc1uh.

[@Godzillakingofkaiju1]

There's a scene in the 2021 movie where Gurney does briefly have the voice warp but that's only when we see the shields.

[@breadlord2855]

I get it was the 80s and futuristic technology was imagined differently, but jesus

[@TurtleRocker12]

Lynch who directed it didn't want it to be like samurai or ninja movies or the force cause he thought that would be cheesy. He said it would be like "Kung fu in sand dunes" So he changed the fighting style to something actually much worse.

[@breadlord2855]

@@TurtleRocker12 i was thinking more about the """""""""""""""shields"""""""""""""" but yea

[@TurtleRocker12]

@@breadlord2855 you're right. I'm just saying, it didn't need to be this weird and overblown in the first place.

[@breadlord2855]

@@TurtleRocker12 well at least i have something to laugh at while bored and procrastinating

[@TurtleRocker12]

@@breadlord2855 yeah, it's amazing 😅

[@trevorrobertsondoublebass4233]

“Mood’s a thing for cattle and loveplay” Was that…was that a pun? “What did the cow do?” “It mood”

[@augustsmith9553]

Nobody has commented in 2 years for a reason

[@tortis6342]

Sure was! Puns are awesome.

[@arxeha]

the reason this comment doesn't get replied for 2 years is that everyone else mood the comment

[@augustsmith9553]

@@arxehaI made you and I can unmake you

[@Blockistium]

Mood is a thing for cattle and wordplay.

[@stevenberliner7964]

"Mood’s a thing for cattle and loveplay, not fighting!" Direct quote from the book. I appreciated that touch in the 1984 version.

[@eticketchannelofficial]

The retrofuturistic gothic vibe of the original was a design choice I still respect. A marriage of the technological and the feudal. Honestly, I love the aesthetic of both movies.

[@lartisteautravail]

Was just gonna say that stylistically I might prefer the original. It’s such a weird look but sometimes you want weird.

[@eticketchannelofficial]

@lartisteautravail Somethings to keep in mind are that the Dune universe is in a perpetually feudal state and that computers have been banned for thousands of years. That really drove a lot of the aesthetic choices. The marriage of the Spanish dripping wax gothic style and the sharp, almost Germanic uniforms of the Emperor and House Atradies are great examples. The blocky personal shield animation, in particular, gets a lot of hate, but in context, it makes perfect sense. Cheers!

[@danielcarter5537]

All that and Patrick Stewart, being a Shakespearean actor, adds even more to the tone of the movie with the way he presents his lines.

[@eticketchannelofficial]

@@danielcarter5537 "If you'd have fought one whit below your abilities; I'd have given you a good scar to remind ye."

[@ybyby3rdday]

They still have that in the new one. But it could've been more emphasized

[@REChronic54]

I genuinely would've probably liked Lynch's fight sequence if I knew what the hell was happening.

[@lindsaymonroe567]

Thank you, I cant see shit in those shields

[@Henbot]

Then you should have waited 30 years. It likely as this is because it is far easier to do big trace by trace and frame by frame shield then a skin tight shield, at the time, nowadays, this would be easy to do. I still like it though because it gives it a uniqueness.

[@REChronic54]

@@Henbot I know that the effects were due to the time period it was created, so I'm not gonna fault it for that. But bottom line is, I still can't see anything. And it's a disservice to the actual fight choreography. But I also heard the production was plagued with issues so they probably didn't have the time/resources to work on it.

[@Alphabunsquad]

Yah I would have loved to have seen Patrick Stewart violate the laws of moment to launch himself skull forward at the camera like a lawn dart.

[@jeova0sanctus0unus]

@@Henbot We get that but its still an issue if you cant see what is happening in your visual medium.

[@jonathantan2469]

I didn't know the TARS robots from "Interstellar" could knife fight...

[@lindsaymonroe567]

LMAO

[@adamscott7354]

What CAN'T those things do?

[@sdm000]

LMAO if TARS and CASE had different plans 💀

[@kakiytjarone8415]

Omfg I thought I was the only one that noticed that!!

[@csaba5415]

@@sdm000 I hear they are looking for a job now ;).

[@comicscodeauthority3920]

i like how when Paul vaults the table at 0:54 he hits it hard with his palms causing the shield to activate but when he goes to grab the knives he pauses dissecting the motion preventing the shield from activating and allowing him to grab them nice little details

[@kotm8633]

thats actually sick! i've not noticed that before

[@moshymosh]

I didn't see him pause his shield at all. I guess the animators forgot this detail bruh. You're seeing things.

[@rrohbot]

@@moshymosh The commenter said he paused his motion, not his shields. You're seeing things.

[@Fragenzeichenplatte]

@@rrohbot He didn't pause any motion. He grabbed the knife as one would even without a shield.

[@justin66asdf]

Unfortunately they messed it up by not having his hand glow red when he grabbed the knives. Without that it looks like the shield somehow knows when something is an actual danger, in which case why doesn't the shield just block everything dangerous. (Also his footsteps should glow red every time too as the shield allows the floor to enter.)

[@hedgeearthridge6807]

I love both Patrick Stewart and Josh Brolin here, they both nail the attitude in two different ways: Patrick more exacting and disciplined, Josh more grizzled and rough. With Paul on the other hand, Timothee actually seemed like he was NOT in the mood 😂

[@thereligion4169]

I never realized before the shield belt did not literally need to be a belt and was completely impractical, the way Villeneuve portrayed it was more practical how they wrap it around the wrist or hand, and the baron has one lazily attached like a brass knuckle which he can just flick on at a whim, I can appreciate both depictions regardless of effects, but Villeneuve made more sense.

[@Tiger74147]

In the books it was a belt. Not that I disagree with you otherwise!

[@CommanderActaeon]

What also makes more sense is how in the new movie it looks like there is more of a "technique" to make the blade pass through the shield, while in the old movie how the "slow blade penetrates the shield" seems TOO slow and very exploitable for an opponent. The "draw" in the old version seems like something that would happen consistently if that was how slow you had to push the blade.

[@russellfox4541]

@@CommanderActaeon it was exploitable in the book.

[@thereligion4169]

@@CommanderActaeon the shields in the first place are to deter projectiles, not swords or close range weapons, jabbing someone with a knife is far slower than a bullet, so it would make sense if slashes were completely deflected but not a sturdy thrust with some finesse.

[@BBanzaj]

i disagree, its easier to wear something on your belt, rather than something the size of walkman on your wrist. It also makes sense if u realise that if the wearer looses one arm, the shield is affected. If you loose the arm that has the device on it, shield goes with it, if you loose the other one, it might be harder to turn the thing off (i guess you could try using your nose to turn it off).

[@mehkle4431]

If only Frank Herbert could see the new Dune adaptation 🤧

[@o.m.g7277]

I know....he deserves a lot of recognition. He was an amazing writer!

[@FATE522]

He could see what he was doing with it more than any movie creator could do with it 🥰

[@IvanKala]

aye, he would be pissed how new guy butchered his Liet Keynes.

[@jacobdaniels3246]

@@IvanKala what happened to Liet Kynes? That’s the botanist girl right?

[@Henbot]

He actually loved David Lynch one btw

[@MM22966]

Whoever had the idea to make the shields go red/blue for deflect/penetrate was a bloody genius and I hope he got a raise. It made the fights clearer, made the faces clearer, the fights more fluid, and added some serious impact to the story on its own.

[@user-nc2ey4kw7r]

Also makes it dumber. How do the shields tell if they should go red and why would they let the thing penetrate if they know you wouldnt want it?

[@user-us1xp5dx6x]

@@user-nc2ey4kw7r Makes sense to me. It's the equivalent of an error message. Just because the technology is able to read that the shield is broken doesn't mean that it can fix it.

[@user-nc2ey4kw7r]

@@user-us1xp5dx6x except it's not broken just doesnt want to deflect this one attack at the moment Computers are banned in the empire so maybe that's why they're so buggy

[@davidk1308]

@@user-nc2ey4kw7r It's told in this video, "the slow blade penetrates the shield." Shields aren't an impenetrable barrier any more than armor doesn't stop all bullets (or the impact force). And air and sound still has to pass through. So while you can't slash at someone and cut them, if you can slow yourself down below a certain speed, objects can go through, and it turns red to show that happened. I believe it's explained better in the books, where your fighting strategy encourages you to move quickly when being attacked, so it's harder to get a blade through.

[@user-nc2ey4kw7r]

@@davidk1308 if the shield knows of a danger (and it always does), the film never tells us how and why does it not act on it(which it theoretically could by locally intensifying itself). I liked when the lynch's shields just turned you into a blunt weapon. Simple, consistent and effective... and funny

[@DarthLego46]

I like how imprecise and utilitarian the 80’s shields look. Like the designers got to the point where the things could do their intended purpose and stopped there, with no regards to aesthetics or refinement.

[@TheByQQ]

I mean, that's literally what they did. Drew the shields and said "that's good enough"

[@RanHarasaki]

I agree with you Darth. That's how I always thought of it. I mean imagine if shields -were- a thing, they would likely need projected limiters, and it's easier to make those in simple geometric designs than hugging every curve of the human body within a millimeter. If modern shield tech becomes a thing, it will likely look like it does in the 80s version waaaay before the modern variant.

[@mikewilson858]

I like a lot of David’s visual design in his Dune, and I like his shields, but given how much more they are used in Danny’s film, I definitely see value to scaling back how obstruct looks. 100 dudes fighting 100 dudes with these shields would look like shit

[@peppermillers8361]

And it looks goofy as hell.

[@Gameprojordan]

​​@peppermillers8361 I don't think it's goofy. It would be extremely unsettling if you started getting pursued by someone with a shield equipped like that. It completely distorts what they look and sound like while making them impervious to most attacks. Feels like some sort of alien horror

[@ondrejbronec837]

For anyone who hasn't seen the VFX breakdwon the best part is that the 1984 graphics are not ancient computers, but human drawn to look like digital animations of 1984. Great idea :D

[@mousermind]

*breakdown

[@Fragenzeichenplatte]

They intentionally made it look like it's from 1984? In 1984? That's visionary! /s

[@waffler-yz3gw]

the only issue is that it makes it impossible to see whats happening

[@caliperstorm8343]

They had to do it manually in order to get the reflection and distortion effects. CGI couldn’t do projection mapping like that for a few more years (like in 1986’s “Flight of the Navigator”)

[@jeffa4822]

@@caliperstorm8343and they said landing on the moon was CGI 🤣

[@rhetiq9989]

The newer version is easier on the eyes and you can actually tell what’s happening in the combat, not to mention it adds a unique vibrant flair to it. The old one’s like two horribly animated minecraft models brutally fucking each other

[@MrImastinker]

The new one’s also more faithful to the books, where the shield is almost invisible unless you’re striking.

[@Primus-kz3ri]

@@MrImastinker if I remember correctly the only way to tell if someone has a shield is a slight distortion in the air around them. Like the heat from flames of a fire

[@Henbot]

Old one is better and more memorable, also it was done 30 years ago so the fact you compare tech is laughable. Old one also was with better performances and dialogue

[@Henbot]

@@MrImastinker fight choreography and dialogue was bland in comparison and miles less memorable

[@whistleblower1717]

@@Henbot are u fucking kidding me. The fight choreography in the new dune is so much better. You can actually see the different moves and knife fight styles. They actually used kali a philipino martial art. Cmon ur actually so blind

[@ThreeCatProductions]

I have to admit, I love both takes on the same scene. They definitely are from different eras of film, but that isn't necessarily better, nor worse (on it's own). The special effects in 1984's Dune make it a little hard to see what's actually going on, but the sound effects and the acting is on point.

[@Dark_Jaguar]

I have a lot of nostalgia for the old blocky look, but they really should have cranked up the transparency. Make those blocks more of a hint than outright obscuring the characters.

[@Fragenzeichenplatte]

I miss the internal dialogue from the old version. They added detail that make the world more Dune.

[@johnhallow]

Old one is worse hands down, let's not let nostalgia blind us :P I'm not saying it's BAD, but definitely considerably worse. The blocky shapes are less realistic logically speaking (even within the bounds of suspension of disbelief) and you can barely even see what they're doing while they're fighting. The only plus is the voice distortion, which is something from the books that the new verison lacks completely

[@emmanuelobodozie713]

"a little"

[@waltergsmixes]

I like the old hand drawing effects and the energy spelled when the knife hits on the shield it's enjoyable. Nostalgic Epicness.

[@daystyrfer7887]

The 2021 does a better job of explaining how the shield actually works, and it actually comes into play, multiple times, throughout the film. The 1984 version is, however, endearing in it’s own way.

[@Henbot]

The old one is more memorable and better in visuals minus the ships in the new one which were superior. Gurney was also much better performed by Patrick Stewart and the fact they removed his hilarious line about cattle and love play made the scene boring.

[@benepic3101]

@@Henbot while the old shields look cooler, they’re hell for fight choreography. Imagine the hallway fight with Duncan but using these shields. The entire screen would be one copper brick.

[@Henbot]

@@benepic3101 Duncan last stand for me was cooler in Lynch film. Momoa though worked overall, the problem was the fight choreography in Dune 2021 was still poor frankly and though Lynch stuff can be goofy it still more memorable.

[@benepic3101]

@@Henbot I don’t think Duncan was in more than one scene in Dune 1984. I don’t think his death was in the film

[@Henbot]

@@benepic3101 He is briefly in the film but I got more a mythical and legendary bad assery from him especially due to actors responding to how he managed to kill Sadukar. He was brief but still so bad ass, he just wasn’t for me in this film

[@marcusanders2895]

As dated as it was in 84, this was the early stages of CGI and it still has such a warm nostalgic feeling. But after seeing the current reincarnation, I need two shots of whiskey and a hot damn to the epicness.

[@TheBroz]

It wasn’t CGI at all, it was animation cells drawn over the top of the live action frames. A technique that was pretty well established by then.

[@davecrupel2817]

Lmao true!

[@Henbot]

The new one is thirty years later, and the techno for SFX is so far apart now. Unless you can find Lynch saying this was deliberate, it more than likely so blocky because it is far easier to trace blocky shapes than skin tight shapes by hand or frame by frame.

[@MrConstantine02]

Empire Strikes Back was released *four years* before this movie, and had 10x better special effects than this shit. The date is no excuse, it's just lazy effects.

[@EkardRimidalv]

It looks bad, but it feels good to watch it

[@iLikeTheUDK]

I have no idea how the 1984 shields were animated but I highly appreciate the effort

[@Scroolewse]

obviously the new CGI looks better and makes more sense than the hand drawn things we see in 1984 but dang... I think those old shields are just so cool. Limitations in movie making (also applies to video games as well) bring about some cool stuff.

[@legion5938]

"turn on your shelds" Turns into Minecraft charectors

[@gamerstheater1187]

The Minecraft movie looks great

[@sammiller6631]

But the old Dune movie doesn't have ROBLOX sound effects when they turn on shields

[@gamerstheater1187]

@@sammiller6631 what roblox sound effect?

[@sammiller6631]

@@gamerstheater1187 Dune 1984 shields would sound better with the ROBLOX "oof" sounds

[@mousermind]

*characters

[@Lavthefox]

I think we should all appreciate the fact that Captain Picard took time out of his busy schedule to let the Enterprise crew get some shore leave so he could go play with Paul Atreides and do Dune Stuff... it really goes to show his flexibility as a Star Fleet Captain.

[@asmodiusjones9563]

I was right now years old when I realized that Stewart did Dune 5 years BEFORE starting TNG. I have lived my entire life believing his role as Halleck was a cheap casting choice to appeal to Star Trek fans.

[@tc556guy]

@@asmodiusjones9563 Also Lifeforce and Excalibur, both pre-TNG movies that I saw way back then but now see those earlier movie characters as a bit odd given his later Picard and Professor X roles that have dominated his later career years

[@Thomas-fz9xw]

@@asmodiusjones9563 Before TNG, Stewart was well-known for his acting in Shakespearean dramas. Given that the original film leaned heavily on the book, which was also pretty dramatic, I imagine it appealed to him.

[@Miafunfactory]

I want Patrick Stewart and Sting in the new movie...Maybe just visually in the Emperors procession...Maybe as Freman..but we need both of them in Part 2...and I know this totally breaks cannon...But IX ghola action for Duncan Idaho in part 2 please....

[@VidkunQL]

Patrick Steward mentioned in a Q&A session (and perhaps elsewhere) that he was cast by mistake. The director had thought he was casting someone else for the role, and by the time they discovered the error they were already filming in Mexico and it was too late to do anything about it. This was part of Stewart's anecdote about meeting Sting, which is a real gem.

[@weeble4749]

Ngl the 1984 shields have some real charm to them

[@heavycritic9554]

What I think is especially funny is that, once they leave the practice fight, the 2021 version isn't as bothered about getting the shield fighting right anymore. Take a close look at Duncan's fight with the Sardaukar, and you'll see that they kind of half-ass it with the effects relative to the speed the fighters are moving.

[@shaddaboop7998]

Controversial opinion: the entire 2021 movie is half-assed. Villeneuve doesn't seem to care much about Dune. From the little details like you mentioned to the complete lack of understanding of Dune's core ideas. The entire thing felt to me like sanitised Holywood at its worst, sacrificing depth for maximum audience appeal. Lynch's movie is pretty bad, certainly camp and difficult to follow, but he absolutely understood what made Dune was interesting - the exoticism and opulence, but also what drove the characters, and the philosophy that Herbert was conveying with them. None of that intelligence or passion made it into the 2021 version and I think that's very very sad.

[@JonCheadle]

​@@shaddaboop7998 Dune 2021 is all about visuals and presentation. It's like a colossal, beautiful skeleton, but lacking any meat. I understand why people like it, but I don't think it conveys any of the things I personally find interesting about Dune.

[@PaganMinDNW]

​@@shaddaboop7998That's funny.... someone who's loved Dune since he was my age and wanted to make a movie of it for decades... doesn't care about it?

[@EmperorSigismund]

@@shaddaboop7998I just watched part II and coming away from it I'd agree. The director sanitised the script of concepts that would upset his peers in the industry and it really hurt the experience. The relation between the masculine and the feminine was a core part of the book and it's completely smoothed over for the film. There is a lot to enjoy in the new films but the script isn't one of them.

[@shaddaboop7998]

@@PaganMinDNW Considering that he's completely missed the point of the book I'd argue yeah, he doesn't. You need a pretty big ego to claim you're improving one of the most iconic pieces of literature ever written. The changes he's made don't make any sense within either the original story or even his own. It's sloppy.

[@soyitiel]

Fun fact: the look of the shields in 1984's Dune inspired the look of the TVA's portals in the Loki series

[@theilluminatibenefactor]

Whoa, really? I didn't know that but looking back at them now, they really do look similar

[@effinjamieTT]

You cut off the best line “If you’d fought one wit below your ability, I’d have given you a good scar to remind you!”

[@darkhighwayman1757]

Just like everything in that version.

[@glensmillie5101]

Yes, they make a habit of removing and omitting original brilliance because it far outshines their own inferior handiwork. For instance, TMNT remake omitted the most important scene when remade. When LEO is meditating beneath a large old tree, he makes contact through the astral plane to Master Splinter, and at that moment Donatello manages to finally get the old truck ticking over, Raphael awakens from the coma, April O'Neil and Ice hockey dude realise what they mean to each other Michaelangelo.....hmmmmmm, hahahahaha 😅 I've kinda forgotten! Anyhoo, you get my point I hope!

[@hoboguitar148]

​@@glensmillie5101glen what the fuck are you talking about

[@Jonny-uu7wf]

@@glensmillie5101 Ngl, I have literally no idea what your point is

[@glensmillie5101]

@@Jonny-uu7wf would you like to know?

[@Ridlay_]

The old vfx looks so goofy but you gotta appreciate the effort.

[@renetrograde]

i cannot believe they drew all those hitboxes in the '84 version. insane.

[@TheNerdySportsGuy]

The more I see this scene with Brolin and Chalamet the more I realize how absolutely perfect the casting was for this whole movie

[@JordanFrgsn]

But Patrick Stewart as Gurney...

[@culturekiller86]

You would’ve said that no matter who was cast

[@pseudonymousbeing987]

​​@@JordanFrgsnPatrick is Patrick and thus great and all. But the old movie is _so_ stilted and incapable of subtlety. Some like the theatricality, I do not. Denis' verisimilitude is to my taste.

[@mr.wilson9941]

Zendaya was an atrocious choice

[@GoriIIaTactics]

​@@mr.wilson9941I don't know why they keep putting that monkey into important roles

[@samuelniles3348]

This feels like the closest we’ll get to Captain Picard in a lightsaber duel

[@HenshinHero13]

Woah he broke through his AT field

[@opiateutopia]

Apart from the shields, I like that the 2021 version avoided internal monologues but managed to convey the conflict in the scene. Like you can still see Paul is concerned because Gurney fights too hard and it's unusual

[@kenny187ful]

When Thanos says it's time for practice, it's time for practice

[@daguroswaldson257]

Same with Picard.

[@stephenbyerly5887]

"Snap to it, Paul."

[@Abernathythedull]

The 2021 film portrays the shields as described in the book more accurately.

[@atlusavalon6745]

Lies.

[@clay8546]

Wrong

[@atlusavalon6745]

@@WrangleMcDangle The 1984 version loved the source material, Lynch is above your head clearly, but you could tell he'd actually read the books. You can clearly tell Denis did not read the books just like Jodorowsky never read the books and gleefully admitted it openly. In the 1984 version, you could at least SEE the combat, while in this new one, the blurs made it so they specifically didn't have to have great combat, they just had to 'dance' and allow the blurs to fool the audience. The best version was the TV series anyways, so until you've seen both that and the children of dune on syfy, you don't know what you're missing. Both former editions were FAR superior to Dune 2021.

[@TheHarkonnenScum]

No, it doesn't. In the book they sound more like the lynch shields and they sure as hell didn't glow blue and red like it's a video game. They do look shitty in both versions though.

[@atlusavalon6745]

@@TheHarkonnenScum Yeah but at least with the 'jello blocks' as I call them mentally, you could SEE the action and it also made the 'slow vs fast' attacks seem more meaningful for some reason, maybe the blockyness illustrates it more like actual armor than some phasing video game bullshit. None of them get it perfectly!! I like the TV series illustration the best for the shielding and for most things actually but 84 > 2021 for sure!! by a mile!

[@enby_kensei]

People have commented on how the 2021 version is easier to see, and how the shield belt being mounted on the hand is more practical, but the use of Filipino martial arts makes so much sense for the setting as well. The focus on controlling your opponent's weapon and opening their defenses via manipulating joints and redirecting momentum. A sensible choice of combat style in a world where guns are obsolete.

[@conormccue2871]

Guns aren't obsolete in the setting. They're just so bloody dangerous no one uses them on the ground anymore.

[@sneauxday7002]

@@conormccue2871 did you even watch or read any of the story?

[@mathguy97]

@@sneauxday7002 Bruh Las-guns are a thing in Dune. What are you on about?

[@bladeprincess]

Soooo well done And well edited, poster

[@Dnielsen873]

Thanos or Captain Picard would have made great trainers. Great choices for the role!

[@daguroswaldson257]

They purple washed Gerny?! How could they?!

[@DeathWishMonkey]

The 80s visual effects people probably painted the film frame by frame to make the shield. The 2021 crew just used CGI. It's very clever that they color coded the visual dissonance: blue for the shield successfully blocking and red for a shield breach.

[@fluffypinkpandas]

Nnnnnn I mean The 80s one definitely used CGI

[@nikitapakhomov5452]

“Just used CGI” Bruh Its not that easy as you think

[@TurtleRocker12]

"Just used cgi" while this scene may not have been hard to animate or put effects on, cgi can be just as meticulous as hand drawing. Different steps and what not, but some effects shots still take months, and there's behind the scenes reference study and so forth.

[@SuperNovaJinckUFO]

The 80s visual is also CGI. I'll bet it probably would have looked much better if it was hand-painted. The CGI technology just wasn't there yet

[@beck1328]

cgi is hand painting on a digital workstation rather than a paper one. 10 mins of research would show you that it is not nearly as simple as "just used cg".

[@spinyslasher6586]

Modern Dune: Invisible shield that only becomes visible when you hit it. 1984 Dune: Minecraft Steve hitbox.

[@PJMontoya]

I watched the original as a kid in theatres. Even with the more basic vfx, I find the original so much more intriguing. I actually like the blocky shield imagery

[@leedsmanc]

I believe the appropriate youth interjection here would be "copium".

[@NG_v1]

​@@leedsmancor nostalgia Yeah I'm thinking rose tinted glasses

[@androssteague]

In the old one the fight choreography was a little more fierce and fast-paced. The new one was aggressive but mechanical.

[@Fragenzeichenplatte]

What does "mechanical" mean?

[@Armameteus]

​@Fragenzeichenplatte The choreography was stiff; the actors weren't able to make it look fluid and realistic. They were just going through a series of practicsed motions, but it's like they hadn't practiced enough and didn't know how to string the movements together right.

[@Fragenzeichenplatte]

@@Armameteus The 80s is kinda stiff. > it's like they hadn't practiced enough and didn't know how to string the movements together right. How can you even know that? This is just pure assumption.

[@Armameteus]

@@Fragenzeichenplatte By looking at their movements and seeing how stiff they are? It doesn't take some huge leap of logic to surmise that if they don't know how to do it properly, it's not gonna look right.

[@efxnews4776]

The old one looks like a Minecraft fight, you barely can make sense of the fighting moves, because all you can see are blocks moving around.... It looks DUMB and STUPID!

[@fluffypinkpandas]

80s shields look really bad But notice their smooth boxy design lends credence to how a character slides like ice across a counter top when kicked across the room. I always was fascinated by that detail. And in conversation about "which is better" nobody brings that aspect up at all. reason: the new version has even LESS consistancy with how the shields visually hold up to their described mechanics. at least in 80s dune you actually need to be pinned against something hard. the floor itself is moving too fast for his actual body to hit the ground so it glides its user across the ground on a cushion of air and a little hydroplaning sound effect is even included. in the new version I cant tell whats happening with the shields or if they are even on, as characters seem to hit or not hit depending on what ever the vfx editor decides. no choreography is all that applied in blending in elements like how the environment and the action come together in quite the same way.

[@JiveCinema]

smooth boxy design 🤣

[@fluffypinkpandas]

@@JiveCinema lmao noooooooo AAAAAAAA i meant the ice cube across a counter physics. grrrrrrr

[@Tiger74147]

You gotta have your thinking cap on to notice stuff like that.

[@asmodiusjones9563]

I’ve always loved that physical aspect of the shields in 1984 Dune and wish they’d kept it for 2021. Frankly I think the shields in 2021 don’t make sense, they’re shown getting breached multiple times but it’s not clear how, it just looks like if you hit really hard you’ll get through. This is further complicated by the fact that in 1984 they use knives, which can move slower, while in 2021 they used swords which mostly move fast. This fight from 1984 seems more consistent with the supposed technology, where both fighters use their bodies as blunt instruments to bash their opponents until they have enough advantage to slowly press the knife through the shield.

[@Thomas-fz9xw]

@@asmodiusjones9563 That is definitely one of the ways I thought the new one fell flat (the other being dialog, in that they missed several classic lines by trying to keep it to _too_ simplified). I guess it doesn't translate well to the grand fights they imagined for the new version, but I still miss the focus on the individual dueling that the original really accurately translated from the book.

[@jopar024]

Needless to say, Dune was a challenging film to make in 1984.

[@ptassa270]

It's still a challenging film to make now!! It took two years and two movies to properly adapt one book.

[@Rauruatreides]

And after the 2nd book, it will only continue to get more and more difficult. At least the 3rd book has more physical parts, yet the 4th it is mostly talking with maybe 3 action scenes throughout the whole thing.

[@deadwalking100]

Such a great scene. I view the various versions much like the many worlds theory and have different yet similar events. Nice cutting by the way. Many thanks.

[@promiscuouscrab4040]

The original shield looks like it creates an optical distortion like looking at an object through water and it’s position being perceived differently than where it truly is. In this kind of combat that could be used to make an opponent strike where they think your vitals are, but instead miss all together while you strike back.

[@tacomeme429]

That would be incredibly useful, but only if the shield-wearer was able to see clearly pass their own shields too lol

[@promiscuouscrab4040]

@@tacomeme429 they’re just as confused as the enemy, whole battlefield of people stumbling around haha

[@TheByQQ]

@@promiscuouscrab4040 "ok, fuck it, that's not gonna work out. Let's settle this like men, 1v1 me on Rust"

[@Kord5]

The old one might look funny, but this one would work better, just for that reason.

[@shazzatulanam6680]

But 'mood is a thing for cattle and love play' was such a good dialouge.

[@ivantysyn2]

Actually, the full quote is: "What has mood to do with it? You fight when the necessity arises-no matter the mood! Mood's a thing for cattle or making love or playing the baliset. It's not for fighting." Interestingly, 2021 Dune uses the first part of the quote, whereas the 1984 movie simplified version of the second part.

[@uvaaren8967]

@@ivantysyn2 I think the 2021 version got it right, the "you fight when the necessity arises" part is the most important in that quote, the second part is mostly a fun comparison, even tho it's well written, it doesn't really add anything to the scene, and the full quote is a bit too long for a visual adaptation of the scene.

[@86plful]

I really enjoyed old version which suprised me a lot. The design of shields was not because they were lazy or unable to make it look cooler but as i recall it was as portrayed in original series

[@jiado6893]

“Moods are thing for cattle and loveplay!” That line deserves to go down in history.

[@parokki]

Can't believe I'm saying this, but I prefer the one without Patrick Stewart.

[@elgitarr_]

brolin's gurney is a lot more of a battle-hardened soldier in my eye. stewart felt too gentlemanly for this scene in particular.

[@funkydown]

american muscle guy is cooler than the bald nerd

[@funkydown]

also, unlike david lynch, villeneuve can make good films

[@ecurb10]

Noooooooooo!

[@blackman5183]

really shows how a new hope was ahead of its time. this was made like 10 years after a new hope if i’m not mistaken.

[@danw4237]

Star Wars - A New Hope came out in 1977, so 7 years before the first Dune film.

[@blackman5183]

@@danw4237 oh ok thanks for clarifying. still very impressive

[@Antractica]

You are mistaken.

[@revolvertaco7493]

The old one had better dialog.

[@santiagosancho2317]

If the effect on the original shield hadn't been SOO dense, it would make a lot of sense actually, to have a machine instantly creating a bounding box around you to protect you. But the effect is so dense you can't see what's going on

[@Godzillakingofkaiju1]

Honestly, I think the 2021 movie did a better job of portraying the Shield while sticking closer to the book.

[@swampmusicinfo]

Old version (with it's obvious limitations) does have a nightmarish quality , might not even comprehend what's coming at you before being cut down. Considering it's rotoscoped and hand drawn it pushed the limits back then. Many effects of the Lynch version were hit or miss.

[@cdrom1070]

it makes sense to me, a solid metastable crystalized plasma barrier. Works like a shield. Has the right color for low energy plasma and the emitter is simple (its supposed to be analog electronics) The new one is some kind of warp generator projector powered by a quasar jet's enclosed in D cells (total horse shit). Makes sense in rick and morty, not for some generic military equipment lol. They can warp space time like that but they still need the guild navigators?!

[@jamesbrice3267]

@@cdrom1070 Guild Navigators are required because the navigation AI decided to join the glorious Terminator revolution.

[@cdrom1070]

@@jamesbrice3267 it says that basically they could not figure it out with computers and it was risky

[@cdrom1070]

But my point was, the power source / method of the shield working is SO RIDICULOUS that it makes it seem completely out of place in the universe, its power requirements, etc. I believe a shield that looks like a shield! Just because a GFX arrtist thinks space warping looks cool, it does not mean it makes sense in the universe!

[@cdrom1070]

Think about it a non newtonian plasma fluid. Like making a wall of corn starch in front of you (I imagine its like liquid crystal plasma stuff). Fast objects cause it to tense up. Slow objects go through it, and since its like spaghetti its very resistant to slashing. The old shield made sense. This one looks ludicrous. The shield in the first movie looks like a very advanced plasma window thing if you ever seen one before in a lab, with a unique form of low energy condensed plasmaish matter. The new shield looks like it came out of bugs buny. I imagine the shield generator is like a many axis phased array thing that arranges plasma matter in planes. They made it a bit too boxy in the movie, but I think its close. The new one looks like its warping space! Maybe you can call the brownorange stuff heavy largely non newtonian low energy plasma with straited lattice bonding tendancies that is kneeded out by means of a multi axis phased array.

[@aviatorjames512]

Love the professional military vibe from the first one, like the graphics and shields of the new one.

[@AsianTrix]

Sir Patrick with hair is the true brilliance of the film

[@michael_mouse]

0:28... when I first saw this 'Shield Practice' scene being played out in the cinema back in 1984, I couldn't believe my eyes 👀it was the most amazing special effect I'd ever seen... even today, nearly forty years on, it still amazes me how brilliantly gifted the special effect team must have been coming up with such a totally believable force field idea 😲

[@qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm....]

nice joke bro

[@johngoodwin764]

I think Brolin just out-shakespeared Patrick Stewart

[@jtno2]

lol no

[@streetrat48]

@@jtno2 Definitely. His Gurney is 10x better than Stewart's.

[@jamesmunn576]

@@jtno2 except he kind of did

[@EyesOnly88]

Lol most certainly not hahaha

[@SuperNovaJinckUFO]

It's not Patrick Stewart's fault. The writing for the '84 movie is atrocious. Basically just a collection of quotes from the book taken out of context. Plus Patrick Stewart doesn't really play the "tough guy with a soft spot" sort of character that Gurney is. He'd have been a much better Duke Leto or Emperor Corrino (maybe even Thufir Hawat)

[@kaustubhdatta8162]

80s movie was an ambition of a different level

[@Shattered3582]

as a VFX learner, i think they did a great job with the tech they had at the time, and i love how they did their best with what they had. also the shields were edited in 2d not 3d like we do in modern days, so well done to those editors. but i do like the new one better, for a few reasons I love the shield designs, they seem more practical and are more of a body shield since they follow the curves of the body rather than in a box I think the shield activator is way more realistic than the old one since the user can seeming place it where he prefers, and it doesn't look like a receptions bell Also the sound design on the new one gives the shields a nice sense of power (i do know that that sound quality has gotten better and the old one did their best) but one think i do find the old one lacks (in this scene comparison) is the acting, the new one has the guy looking away from the weapons master while almost muttering his (i'm not in the mood) and the you can see the venom in his voice (you fight when the necessity arises now fight!) 1984 version looks a bit cheesy with him looking straight into his eyes ( we had sword practice this morning...i'm not in the mood) sorry that was long, i just love movie making old or new. a wonderful art told visually.

[@cdrom1070]

I see absolutely nothing realistic about the new one, but the old one looks like some kind of plasma crystalizer that can make a meta stable barrier controlled by a field in a few dimensions (i.e. a few projector axis, kind of like a gyroscopic laser level for doing home construction, available for a few hundred dollars). The new one looks like it requires a assload of power and a advanced AI to control it. Hardly a shield. They can warp space time into a blur but they still need the guild navigators... yeah right. Supposed to be analog too, not advanced image recognition AI to reshape some kind of space time warp! I assume the power requirement for that kind of tech is something like a supermassive black hole polar jet. I imagine that kind of distortion is what you would see near the event horizon of a black hole (ridiculous gravity). Defiantly not a personal shield.

[@sarcasticstartrek7719]

It's just hand drawn dude, there's no "tech" involved.

[@Shattered3582]

@@sarcasticstartrek7719 i was talking about the film

[@Major_Beetus-ki9rw]

If CASE and TARS started throwing hands:

[@zanir2387]

TRON called, they want their effects back...

[@sarcasticstartrek7719]

what, "hand drawn boxes" ?

[@nowgoawayanddosomethinggoo8978]

"smash was the first practice mode to show hitboxes" dune 1984: *wheezing*

[@user-im7uh5nl6t]

The new movie did such a better job (thanks to modern effects) of conveying how shields work, but I still didn't like the red/blue coloring to show blocks and hits. I get that it makes a lot more sense for people who haven't read the book, it's a simple and effective way of showing what's going on, but i'd have liked it better if blue meant a block and no color change meant a hit. I kept thinking that in practice the color change would be like a hitmarker in CoD. Just a way of telling the enemy "You missed but try that again, it almost worked"

[@JohnDoe-vm5rb]

I always read it as a potential visual warning for the wearing. If you see red in the corner of your eye for example, you might have chance to react to that 'slow blade'

[@BdogFinal14]

Gotta admit, I love them both.

[@Warmaker01]

"When you're dancing in meadows with dogs and kittens, this is not where fighting happens." - Syrio Forel

[@keri___]

I immediately thought of Syrio too!

[@RichardX1]

Just so

[@sarge8905]

This is exactly what I was looking for when I saw the new trailer, thanks!

[@videomemes_youtube]

Welcome!!!

[@lenny_1369]

someone should edit Steve shields on the new version

[@antbanks1261]

Dope "S"

[@notcrazy6288]

These were both such great movies. Great acting, and the art in both were fantastic. I wish Frank Herbert could see them both and give us his opinion.

[@themonsterunderyourbed9408]

He'd probably hate both versions... But hate the 1984 a bit less.

[@notcrazy6288]

@@themonsterunderyourbed9408 I liked the atmospherics of 1984 better. I also resented the groveling to the woke culture (Dr. Liet-Kyenes is a black female now, cuz reasons). That said I think the director of the newer movie, and a lot of the acting by the supporting cast, was better.

[@Derekloffin]

Funny enough, although in most all ways the newer one is better, I like the idea of the old ones better. A body tight shield to me always seemed incorrect as, much like physical real armor, body tight isn't that optimal, and this should be even more noticeable with the limitations of generating an energy field. Not that I think a rectangular design makes much sense either as it would likely be cylindrical or spherical. Oh well, just a minor thing.

[@stahlhelmturtle9822]

Wdym body tight isn't optimal for armor? Armor usually fits best when it's as close to the body as possible. With medieval knight armor, if the limb sections didn't match the wearer as closely as possible it could actually cause injury due to incorrect fitment, and if the cuirass didn't match the wearer in a similar manner, it could restrict movement. In modern armor, low profile gear has always been popular and in some cases even required in the form of concealed body armor. Armor is always most comfortable to wear when it isn't too bulky and follows the natural contours of the body.

[@Derekloffin]

@@stahlhelmturtle9822 What I'm talking about is perfectly body tight. Medieval armor is actually smoothed and shaped to deflect blows. Chests are generally a larger bulge for this purpose rather than mimicking the musculature beneath (although there are examples of armor that fakes the musculature, it isn't for functional reasons). Likewise you often have extra bits to further protect certain points (many armor have a skirt for instance for not only ease of fit, but more leg protection). Even modern armor doesn't mold perfectly because it has to maintain its own strength and lots bends and curves reduces that which even an energy shield should by all right have similar issues with, but we are dealing with unknown tech so who knows. On the other side, for a shield with no substance and thus no fit issues, comfort is a non issue so making it better conform to the body doesn't add anything, but that's beyond that particular point.

[@torganya]

There are people who think the 1984 version of this is higher quality than the new one.

[@user-nn5dh3cs9s]

Yeah it’s mostly people who grew up with that version so it’s nostalgic

[@torganya]

@@user-nn5dh3cs9s i grew up with that one lol. Its not.

[@RougeDeBlah]

People with taste

[@suryamdg]

Wow the new Minecraft live action movie looks good

[@draknight5081]

Imagine how funny it would look to see lines of blocks running at each other

[@robertbusek30]

0:05 - I just love Sir Patrick Stewart as Gurney!

[@spinzaargledhill5401]

That was as good as you could do back then. It tells the story.

[@Hazzard65]

I like the old one for what it is. A bizarre Lynchian vision packed full of awesome set design and weird shit. People comparing a 1984 sci-fi film to a 2021 with regards to their special effects? What exactly is the point? Of course it's better. There's very little they could've done back then which wouldn't look shoddy in comparison and Lynch, in typical fashion, did something unique and fresh. It may or may not have been successful in terms of how it comes across in the final product, but fuck it - it's odd nature is cool and fun to see just for being so different. 5,000,000 comments about how it resembles a video game 30 years later - fantastic.

[@marcalvarez4890]

I MUCH prefer the 1984 version. Anyone who's done any combat sports like judo or jiujitsu will confirm that its confusing as hell, and that's what this version portrays. The visuals feel WAY more like fighting, and they're novel and weird and just wonderful.

[@kielweiss3606]

A New Hope was released in '77 w/ an $11M budget, Dune was released 7 years later and had a budget of $40M...

[@llanfairpwlgwyngyll7331]

@@marcalvarez4890 its a movie. i wanna see what's happening

[@Hazzard65]

@@kielweiss3606 Well that's fantastic. The special effects of Starwars were ground breaking for their time - but even those are paltry compared to modern day visual effects. So cool.

[@spawnof200]

@@kielweiss3606 which effects from a new hope are you comparing to dune?

[@TheTomasina]

Oh lord oh dear. How far we've come.

[@Ponlets]

lol Picard gonna make that boy DRINK his Earl Grey

[@Immallama22]

Honestly it's *almost* a neat looking effect. It's just taken too far to the point it looks goofy.

[@holic_shot]

They're both good.

[@SpaceCadete101]

good work

[@dylanlamarre3768]

For someone who hasn't seen the original Dune, all they see is Captain Picard fighting The Captain

[@CrniWuk]

Always remember. They stoped using laser weapons because when they hit the shields they create a nuclear explosion.

[@volodyanarchist]

Except when they need to cut down a door in the new film, or cut down anything. Crossing their fingers and hoping that they won't hit a shield. This is the biggest blunder of the new film.

[@lowhp_comic]

​@@volodyanarchistI was more confused why the Baron's giant spaceship was firing laser bursts on the Artreides home full of shields. IK that they are aiming to cause a LOT of destruction to end their house, yet it could have also easily nuked themselves too

[@volodyanarchist]

@comic I hear you. But i just interpreted it as "savagery" of their attack. Maybe at least some explanation was due, of course. Maybe even as a side-note. Let's say one of the Baron's nephews says "But the casualties..." and Vladimir answers: "Fuck casualties, even if we lose every one of our soldiers, we can buy more with the spice later". ---- (edit) --- Thought about it some more, and even more in line with Vladimir Harkonen's character would be to add that he is planning to execute all of his soldiers anyhow, so that they cannot spread the word about what has happened. So that it remains a rumour, but nothing concrete.

[@MrRedfoxx1989]

I love the 2021 shield concept. It’s like a Bourne Film style fight with futuristic tech. Unlike Star Wars which has fancy choreography, you can see how moves would land and a killing stroke is like chess, you have to get to it and slow down. Fantastic work!

[@Godzillakingofkaiju1]

Also, the way the shields are utilized is closer to the book.

[@DannoHung]

I know they're weird and kinda goofy, but I love the old shield special effect.

[@LamirLakantry]

They're even better once you realize they aren't CGI but hand drawn animations. No, seriously.

[@dixienormous227]

They really could have just like lowered the transparency in the 84 version because you really have NO clue what's going on lol. And oh man the amount of whispering in that one is wild

[@kingleoxvii2463]

Dune 1984 rocking the Atari special effects!!

[@CodaMission]

This clip would be great to show people who say they prefer old special effects.

[@fahadus]

I think when that's mentioned, it's more for Alien, Terminator, Jurassic Park, Beetlejuice and the likes... and Kubrick's Space Odyssey, which is just witchcraft I assume. But yeah, this is really not a good look back.

[@JackWolf10]

I still prefer the old shields, sorry lmao

[@CodaMission]

@@JackWolf10 you can't even see the effect you prefer

[@cutthroat795]

I’ve never seen an effect age so horribly lmao

[@andrewolesen8773]

Kind of want to see Brolin as a Star Trek captain now.

[@LastLamplighter]

I love the animated 84 version of the shields. I saw this scene in a TV review, loved it, then read all six books and didn't actually see the movie until 10 years later 😂

[@corwinchapman4565]

Oh, wow, I had no idea the energy shields in Perfect Dark were a reference to the original Dune. Cool!

[@BIacklce]

awkward polygonals > buzzy noise

[@nar8tor]

The original looks like characters from minecraft going at it.