Durianrider Gets Dropped!

The BEST ebooks for weight loss and a life of freedom tips durianrider.com...
The BEST top tier carbon wheels www.winspace.c...
Use code 'durianrider10' for 10% off any Winspace product.
EliteWheels Drive 40V Ultralight - 15% off with code DURIANRIDER at checkout: www.elite-whee...
Follow me on Strava to see ALL my daily training. Its FREE! / strava
The BEST Cycling Tips Ebook (buyers guide, diet tips, training tips etc)
durianrider.com...
Durianrider account on instagram
/ durianrider_
If you want more check out my podcast. Just type Durianrider into your fav podcast app and you will see my podcast come up.
Thanks for the support!

[@punkers90]

These are my favorite videos that you do. They showcase your passion for the sport rather than the cynicism. Your commentary is descriptive and constructive. Helps me out on my next group ride.

[@handofbeech]

Great vid. Can you include the data overlay next time like in the previous climbing vid; so useful to observe!

[@ceadeses]

I take back every smart ass comment I have ever said about you. That was a true look into who you really are.I am impressed.

[@Pudakillz69]

I don't cycle or anything; but I actually really enjoy these videos. Before today I had no idea about bike terms like cadence etc.

[@streeterfeatures9585]

durian rider, ever since i started watching your videos, i have learnt so much, gotten faster and tweeked my training programs and its been working! im only lacking a power meter, watching your vids, I KNOW it will make me faster because of you, obviosuly thats the next thing to get. You are the man! You motivate me to work harder in training!

[@spinnerMPS3]

Good to see a proper clip get put up by you. Awesome to watch and great commentary.

[@LoveTheClimbVLOG]

Sometimes I don't know what's harder, holding on to the wheel or getting over yourself after you got dropped. Love the different tips you give, I've heard the cadence thing too many times that I've got it down now.

[@electrocomm]

Another great video! Cycling is fucking HARD!

[@UnyieldingVigor]

I wanted to see you take the lead! show them how its done! number 1! Fucking Do it!

[@willbuchanan6877]

+Joey Carbstrong calm down bro, it's just his opinion

[@willbuchanan6877]

I agree with you but you don't need to 420blazit that guy so hard

[@willbuchanan6877]

I can see by your profile picture

[@willbuchanan6877]

You my friend, have the best observation skills of anyone I have ever seen, no wonder you are quickscoping noobz all day

[@willbuchanan6877]

I am no longer a faceless blob man I have evolved into this all powerful smartass

[@PROcrastiDRIVESVofficial]

This was one of your best videos. THANK YOU! :)

[@bruceneiman5158]

One of best examples of how to climb in a group ever presented as a climber in the Rockies this how it is done maybe a bit slower here where we have really long climbs but very exciting to watch and learn. Nice work.

[@bruceneiman5158]

Don't change who you are your great as a cyclist and as a person love feelee romping in the background very funny and even more memorable video about climbing in a pack.

[@And-rc9yy]

It's easy saying 'bite the bullet' but I could feel that pain when you got dropped.

[@stuh6712]

Harley. Would have been good to have had your stats up during this climb. Love this style of video with you talking your way through it. Thanks.

[@igloodesigners]

That is one long gradual climb hills round here are half the distance but the same elevation

[@RoyAH.]

DAMN! Feels food to know I’m not alone in the drop club. Thanks for the perspective.

[@remrusty]

Love these riding analysis videos man, would love to see more. Love the wallaby data too

[@theharry791]

Fatigue metabolites are his new favourite words lol

[@Mirko1957]

Unbeliveable strong bunch of riders what a speed this is amazing and Durian was forth at the end that's great!

[@tyronemcshane78]

nice one big lad, I love climbing but can admit I'm shite at it. Would love some tips on how to keep your cadence up like that ( I'm more of a grinder but trying to change )

[@cplca]

Right on ! Everybody get droped from time to time. Takes only a fraction of second. On this kind of climb, you hesitate or think too much and it's too lateand can't recovever. Thanks for keeping it real Durianrider !

[@ceadeses]

I just watched this again that was beautiful. You should do commentary for the big races.

[@bikeanddogtripsvirtualcycling]

very informative video, thank you. we all enjoyed the freelee sideshow too. I am somewhat disappointed in you not trying hard enough to be at the front though, perhaps next week huh? Might take a trip to ad. in a year or two, just to try this norton summit myself.

[@SaxnYT]

Love these vids m8

[@oliviersiard4841]

Duriander, I get your message about keeping high cadence to maintain power...Training with a small crank to help spinning more...I was looking at getting a smaller crank on my training bike (the one in my basement I use for speedwork during the week), and keep the normal one on my tt bike the weekend...What you think, is it reasonable to mix? Thanks a lot in advance

[@LegendJeff]

Good call. Much more comfortable to train on a short crank bike on the trainer.

[@MKI4EVA]

so awesome man......humble enough to show us that.......hits on vids are climbing : ). Funny and entertaining vid. thanks.

[@daveadams7989]

This is an excellent POV into what happens when the guys ahead open up a gap. In the TDF I always used to think why are they letting them get so far ahead?! Now I realise a moments hesitation and they are gone. Great vid Harley.

[@drewmorg.]

Freelee a million times more distracting than that flashing light LOL

[@j1shin]

What i like about this video is a) Freelee the entertaining clown b) them hairs c) nice footage and commentary. What i don't like is the missing data like current speed, power output etc. like you had it in one of the other vids. Nonetheless mister white socks goes like a rocket.

[@clairespooner7115]

Okay so Cadence, that's all clear. and I ask this out of curiosity what gear were you predominantly riding. I've got an 11 - 24t cassette on the back. New bike is due in the next couple of months and that will have 11 - 32t cassette on the back. hills round here aren't long but they are steep.nearly always double figures or there about, frequently 14 - 15% there's a couple around 20% and one I ride sometimes with a 25% gradient. anyway with my current bike (11 - 24 cassette) I can't do high cadence up the hills, it's grind or walk. So the speed you guys were going at what gear do you reckon? also what sort of gradient is that hill on a minimum maximum scale. cause that was fast climbing.

[@ivanboesky1520]

Use an online gear/speed calculator and you can see what effective speed you are going roughly in any gear and cadence. Chris Froome, the TDF Yellow Jersey, was riding a 38 up front (small ring) with an 11x32 cassette in the back the other day up the final climb of stage 9 that had an 11% average grade. That's the TDF yellow jersey and best climber using a 38x32 and he was in the 32 for a good portion of that climb!! Nothing wrong with riding a 32 in the back or even a 36 if that's what you need to get to that 90-100 rpm sustainable cadence. Here is a gear calculator you can use: www.bikecalc.com/speed_at_cadence Plug in your gears and cadence range and hit the calc button and you can see exactly how fast you are going in different gears at different cadences.

[@chrisquick7596]

How to know who's wheel to follow up a climb- Find the dudes with forearms thicker than their upper arm.

[@drewmorg.]

Fuckin loooove this video!! Damn can't wait to get on my bike tomorrow now.

[@bananacyclist8644]

Best advice video you've made so far!

[@xXchutterzXx]

My cousin's coach at his elite Italian U23 team (they race about 20 UCIs out of 50 total race days every year in Italy, France, Spain and Portugal) won't let them use power meters because he wants them to get to know their bodies rather than confining themselves to numbers. Since we all know numbers aren't everything, what are your personal opinions on that method?

[@waqidjanjua3022]

+glenny oc it helps when you start training. but yes you dont have to have it, and sometimes its good to just ride iwthout looking at the power. Shit, in criteriums i dont ever look atmy power, i just look afterwards and compare to other crits to see how much faster or the amount of work ive done.

[@frenchalpscycling5283]

I agree with your cadence, and yes, when at your peek races, high cadence is necessary, but, as there is always a but, what is not understood by many is that high end cadence more so works top end fitness, and basic strength if you ride over hills, so its a given to get some strength, but, cadence at a high rate all the time is not great. It wond develop true strength and a good increase in WATTS. As an example, lance, Jan and many pros do over gear efforts and rolling in the 53 whatever to have around a 50 cadence to build strength on a consistent cycle through early training phases, especially off season base work at steady state intervals; without raising HR too much. Then when one is stronger, you train spinning, if one is stronger from various big gear sessions that are specific then if you can spin at 100 cadence ( by training it at the correct periodised time) 2 gears bigger from the previous season, then you are going to go faster. If you always have to rely on top end fitness its not ideal, I remember in the Lance period people were spinning around like idiots going nowhere as they are not developing strength. As you know fitness at top end on the bike is many facets of development. Aeorobic Base + Strength + High end Fitness + Cadence = Results or better anyway...cheers!

[@Eltercero]

That was a great video. Thank you.

[@cody6857]

speaking of rider distractions.. I couldn't help but notice your kooky lady friend in the background haha. great video tho, awesome advice

[@jamesart9]

Great video, man, thanks. Great entertainment in the background, ma'am, thanks.

[@PS-xq3fk]

Love these vids dude! You seem to be getting faster into old age!!

[@murraypimm8944]

Hey Durianrider. Love all your vids and attitude, ive dropped 30kg and love riding my bike, im still big at 90kg but am a firm believer in spinning, I just put a 12/30 cassette on my bike and love it!!! can spin up a lot more hills, legs feel fresher, but man the crap I get for having granny gears on my bike, lol. who cares I know im on the right track Spinning is winning

[@joesherman4402]

How do you choose what road bikes to buy? I know you must have 5 or more road bikes. Do you order them online or go to a bike shop?

[@elliotm]

banana girl be trollin'... great vid DR! Get that on screen data

[@jaywalks3990]

When there were 4 of you left, what was the average gradient and what chainring/cog(s) were you in for the majority of the time? Awesome video.

[@TheTSRush]

I don't ride as much as you. I wish I had someone around like you earlier on in my riding career. You would be a great coach to learn from. I subscribed and thumbs up this video. More like it...thank you from Boston.

[@ungtown]

Love the commentary mate!

[@PAC0TAC0]

Can you link the specific strava activity for these types of videos.

[@seriousstuff50]

Cool vid. Whats going on in the back ground?

[@spider-man1612]

Can you do a high speed bike comparison? The Reid vs Bamboo vs TCR in a velodrome or controlled environment at 40+ kmh. Love your work!

[@Steve-jo3cl]

AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME vid DR loved how you narrated the vid !!! more like this !!!! but wanna see you win !!!!!

[@rhyswilliams695]

Nice vid Harley. Don't think I would come close to hanging on that long. Top effort.

[@ivanboesky1520]

Given that you started at the back, you actually rode a far more impressive climb than the final group of 3-4 you ended up catching before getting dropped. You had to use far more energy than those guys, who were most likely all riding at or near the front from the start, whereas you had to continually work your way around different groups and close multiple different gaps time after time to get up to them. Pretty impressive mate.

[@danielhobgen6146]

Bonjour, Harley.

[@durianriders]

+Bob Gardner cheers mate👊

[@slamtheman]

Great video missing the overlays though. you need these on every video now in my option. Nice to see your mortal and can get dropped too.

[@jasontate1135]

Best vid you've done mate. Loved it. ;-)

[@JasonFonger]

You were saying it's not the best idea to sprint out of the saddle, so would you stay in the saddle the whole time when closing a gap? I always get out of the saddle at least while I'm accelerating to close a gap, and usually sit back down once I have enough speed build up.

[@AdamBrussGoGo]

+Jason Fonger I think it just depends on which muscle groups need a rest or not. Sitting is better but sometimes you just have to get up to release the tension.

[@misterlizard]

+Jason Fonger You can see him get out of the saddle in this vid, the camera starts going side to side.

[@PancakeMan123000]

It would have been good to see live power data in this video

[@sempahriders]

Download Garmin Virb Edit bro..overlays your ride data it will be more interesting to watch!

[@lenkiewitcz]

Who won??? i'm thinking white socks...

[@igloodesigners]

when your doing this climb pumping out 80-90 cadence what gear are you spinning in. when your doing the commentary like this could you give us an idea. I'm climbing a lot of hills in the pennines north England. or should i be focused on the cadence more than the gear.

[@MrHuyspeter]

Hi Durianrider. I wonder is it possible to put a XT chainring (32) on a Shimano Ultegra FC-6800? This would be very handy for my sister so she has lower gear for climbing. Climbing 32 (front chain) and 32 rear. Thanks for the info Peter

[@Demon09-_-]

since he hasent answered. I will say 50/32 us possible but shifting will suffer with an 18tooth gap but maybe she needs more of a 48/32 crank set. Hope this helps some what

[@207Richy]

Eye candy there is distracting me.

[@Len1977gt]

+Sangus Brule i know right

[@Br00talBlaine]

yeah shes not even that pretty. calm down. plus shes flat as all hell.

[@jonbuckley7406]

Okay, Harley, I've been watching your videos for a while and find you 60% entertaining (strawberries), 20% interesting (kiwis), 10% educational (broccoli), and 10% jen e se qua (starfruit), for an oddly tasting, but nutritional blend of cycling edutainment. I've got a real question for you, though, with a little background. I would be happy if you, or anybody else reading could give me an honest and informed response. Here it is. I've been riding for about two years. I've dropped about 12 kg over that time from about 225 lbs to 195 lbs +/- 5 lbs depending on the week. I don't do a lot of climbing, but am looking to do more. My flat average is about 30 kph. ( I know, I'm mixing metric and standard.) My bike is a a 25 lb or so DB Century 2, which is very comfortable, with a compact and 32 on the rear. I've been riding that bike for a few years and just purchased a used 17 lb, CF bike with a compact and 28 on the rear. If I'm looking to start climbing, ignoring the obvious of get stronger eat more carbs and lose weight, which bike is going to allow me to climb with a better cadence, weight and ratio taken into consideration? In other words, lighter bike with 28 on the rear, or heavier bike with 32 on the rear? Educate me banana man!

[@marksamboss6099]

when are the norton bunches? I know theres one on saturday and one on thursday but i forgot the times...

[@jskinner010]

Awesome group

[@vivoslibertos]

I cunt believe durian got dropped :(

[@irvinamba6251]

@durianrider: newbie question, what is the best best gear ratio doing high cadense?

[@lenkiatleong]

Love your videos but it would be great if we can see the speed, power, elevation and etc. superimpose on the video too. Would be great if Garmin VIRB could sponsor you.

[@itsmemamahehe]

Absence of thought let it go let it go.... One special human being

[@TheBeankill]

lol freeza the banana ballerina in the back ground love these nortons vids

[@ethancavill]

You were so close to finishing, last stretch!

[@TalesfromtheGreenway]

Yeah these were great videos no doubt!

[@jakc3d]

Freelee having fun in the background. :-)

[@johnjames3176]

+durianrider how many wallaby gains can i make per gram of hair? Do the crew also remove crack n sak hair? Also does a mathematical formula exist? I have a few grams on my back. Cheers

[@VeganEmbassy]

It's simple bruh every hair is 0.01 wallaby gain! So definitely do crack n Sack & u'll be dropping big time wallabies 💪🏼

[@canmetan670]

I've heard Van Gogh gained 1 wallaby simply cutting a portion of his ear. Aero gainz.

[@vegforce4518]

Cycling never gets easier, you just go faster

[@jakevoien]

how do you find so many pro teams in your area and ride with them?

[@PeterPutz82]

Shaving legs - easier to scrub out gravel after a crash and gauze / tape comes off easier.

[@ryanmckeel9643]

Great work Durianrier!

[@thomasrailly3079]

Great Vid!

[@MrMusicformyhead]

inspiring!

[@velo1337]

can you make a interview with the guys who dropped you... wanna know what advice they could give us...

[@888jucu]

The same advice Clubber Reed gave Rocky, PAIN!!! 😄🤪

[@Ricetraveler]

Freelee in the background is the best :D

[@JeffreyThistle]

Looks like a pretty ride, where is it?

[@chrissanchez7260]

Hey DR I'd love to see how your climbing times improve when you go fully raw and loose a little bit of weight

[@MrVikingdane]

Love the ride vids and advice my man ! Less hatin more sayin

[@Psyk078]

That was great, what's your wallabys per kg in that 13 minutes?

[@taylor_o]

how often do you go all out like this?

[@jeansilvas]

Durian Climbs used to be my game, in my teens and twenties now 41 and 12 kg heavier alot for 5ft 7 ive lost loads of climbing speed,in my twenties weight came off quick now I get fitter stronger more ripped but cannot lose it maybe 3 kg at most. Ok I can hit the flat like a boss,but I want best of both worlds.Can I lose 10kg?How?

[@mattnsim]

Any tips for a bicycle tourer carrying 35kg on his bike while going up hill?

[@noahsandgren]

Easy mountainbike gears and just go slow

[@mattnsim]

+Noah Sandgren I've been 50k a day in training for my trip.. I train harder than what I intend to do on my tour. Thank you for your help Noah. 😇

[@noahsandgren]

Matthew Taudevin Make sure you are training with your fully loaded panniers once in a while, 35 kg is a lot and you want to make sure your body can handle it. If you have alot of weight in the front of the bike you will probably be very tired in your arms if you're untrained. Good luck with your trip! :)

[@mattnsim]

+Noah Sandgren I have made sure of that. 35 kg is on my bike everywhere I go 👍🏽. Hills are killer, but I can handle it. 🚴

[@noahsandgren]

Matthew Taudevin Where are you going? :)

[@BobMorrisWI]

Awesome video.

[@elvero666]

Yo Durianrider how would you say your age has effected your cycling performance? would you have been able to hold the wheel if you were in your twenties? just the physical aspect, not taking your improved cycling knowledge and technique into consideration.

[@blitzen74]

Hey DR, sweet vid. It would be awesome if you could talk Team Sky or another pro team into doing that ride with you. Do you think most of those guys in that group ride more or less than 8,500 miles per year?

[@spinnetti]

you are very entertaining.. good stuff

[@Colefyre]

LOL Freelee...such a sweet distraction :)

[@kevinringer8345]

What in the hell was Freelee doing behind you? I was into the climb until this head bobbing started

[@BucketlistFitRunning]

So many gaps! Get on that wheel boys

[@tobegan3753]

Nice video mate

[@daniellopezeverest]

great video!

[@solidstream13]

I can't believe the pros are doing sub 12:00 as part of a full stage

[@Blackeyemofo]

if ya had the front during the slower part going into it im sure ya pry would have lasted. the accordion effect with group pack accelerations are a bitch and a half if your in the back on a corner or hill. This was a big mistake I made in my career was not positioning myself correctly. I was either at the front the whole time or I hanged to casually at the back and didnt move my way up the peloton during times when effort wasn't really needed to move up. After I learned how to position myself, I would hit the top 7 in every raced I ever raced in rather it be on a climb or in a sprint.

[@mohammedkhan4088]

From 5.22 to 6.26 you did not blink how do you not blink for over 1 minute?

[@BluuSkyz]

I'm dying laughing here at your hair, just noticed in about 5 min in lmao.