Dustin Johnson Grounds Club and Hits from an Unmarked Bunker | 2010 PGA Championship

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@donovanmitchell6524
@donovanmitchell6524 5 жыл бұрын
Careful not to hit your ball into a divot filled with sand on this course as it will most likely be considered a bunker!
@JohnJ-fj2xe
@JohnJ-fj2xe 4 жыл бұрын
You don't read very well, do you?
@GatorNick
@GatorNick 5 жыл бұрын
DJ handled it better than most. Could you imagine if it were a guy like John Daily in that situation?? Now that would have made for great TV!
@Cjass814
@Cjass814 5 жыл бұрын
Nick Pangburn BETTER THAN MOST!!
@TheSideburno
@TheSideburno 5 жыл бұрын
Speith would have been there 45 mins with the official discussing it
@Will-nb8qk
@Will-nb8qk 5 жыл бұрын
TheSideburno 😂 😂 damn straight Speith would have been!
@KevinBostwick
@KevinBostwick 4 жыл бұрын
Did you ever watch Daly play growing up? He would be one of the last to ever blame anything on the course; hot headed sometimes sure but you must not know much about the golfer and only know about the "beer and cigarette guy that golfs." John is a class act.
@nedseekamp8191
@nedseekamp8191 4 жыл бұрын
Haha
@C4m4r0
@C4m4r0 6 жыл бұрын
My biggest problem is this was called in by someone watching at home and it was one of the unmarked bunkers. I know the rule to play them all as hazards but if it doesn't even resemble a bunker, is unmarked, and the penalty is called in from someone at home who contacted the network who then contacted an official it shouldn't be a penalty at that point.
@95bochamp
@95bochamp 5 жыл бұрын
@Matt Cook, Have you ever seen a 'marked' bunker? If so, how was it marked?
@justbreakingballs
@justbreakingballs 5 жыл бұрын
Also you are wrong on all counts. As you say it’s your problem. The officials looked at it and a penalty was the result. From that you can only say : 1, you are correct because the officials are corrupt. 2, you are correct because the officials don’t know the rules as well as you. Neither hold much weight.
@ianalderson5133
@ianalderson5133 5 жыл бұрын
No one called in it you haven't been allowed to do that for decades
@95bochamp
@95bochamp 5 жыл бұрын
Decades?
@TheSteve1126
@TheSteve1126 4 жыл бұрын
If people were standing in it, it’s a waste area, not a bunker. Rules suck
@taunokekkonen5733
@taunokekkonen5733 5 жыл бұрын
PGA channel: DJ gets penalty!!1 European Tour channel: players try and hit gong 200yd away over water.
@rayjramirez7025
@rayjramirez7025 5 жыл бұрын
200 yards over water? Is that supposed to be hard😂?
@Paudyyy
@Paudyyy 5 жыл бұрын
@@rayjramirez7025 read again....
@Micter
@Micter 4 жыл бұрын
Can players hit a putter 200 yards?
@pato20995
@pato20995 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin Cline an adjective? Maaan, don’t correct people, you’re making a fool of yourself... (it’s a preposition in this case, there’s no case in which it can be an adjective)
@browser93102
@browser93102 4 жыл бұрын
@@Micter Justin Thomas did that kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIWWXopsm6mrl9E
@czechmate1124
@czechmate1124 6 жыл бұрын
This is the anal part of golf that makes it ridiculed. No other sport has varying rules like this. If this is a playing field, people shouldn't be allowed to "Stand in the bunkers". Oh, today, it's dirt....tomorrow it'll be a bunker. Bogus.
@95bochamp
@95bochamp 6 жыл бұрын
No, not really. It's the nature of this particular course. If the organizers kept the spectators 'behind' these areas, then they would be too far away to see anything. Besides, the players were reminded in writing that they should be aware that the bunkers were in play and had to be played as hazards.
@petey_the_toast5295
@petey_the_toast5295 6 жыл бұрын
its worth pointing out that a fan at home called this penalty in. Not one official on the course called it out, even though you can clearly see at least one standing right next to him, looking directly at the "bunker" while he shoots. In other sports, referee mistakes are part of the game. Baseball, football, soccer, basketball, hockey, even fucking curling don't have fans call in while the event is still happening and get the play changed. Bullshit way to lose.
@crocidayle
@crocidayle 4 жыл бұрын
@@petey_the_toast5295 So wait, you are telling me that a fan got them to chamge the ruling?!? Are you fucking serious
@iamjobu6101
@iamjobu6101 3 жыл бұрын
@@crocidayle yes and it’s not that uncommon for fans watching at home to call in penalties
@marklags2396
@marklags2396 6 жыл бұрын
So it's ok to walk through the greenside bunker to watch players now? Can I set up my folding chair in the bunkers now?
@justbreakingballs
@justbreakingballs 5 жыл бұрын
Oh dear. You don’t seem to understand the rules.
@jamsams
@jamsams 5 жыл бұрын
@@justbreakingballs oh dear, you don't seem to understand sarcasm.
@theMull90
@theMull90 4 жыл бұрын
@@justbreakingballs What he said would go with the logic of the PGA in this case. Whatever about having to play it as it lies, he shouldn't have hit it into the crowd. but to consider an area where thousands of people, walk around, stand on, eat on and drink on, as a playable hazard is beyond idiotic. It would be the same logic as having the crowd spectating from greenside bunkers. Whatever about play it as it lies, but to consider it a hazard that you cannot ground your club in, now that is stupid.
@RealDaBrady
@RealDaBrady 4 жыл бұрын
I’m not even a Dustin Johnson fan, but I feel like he got robbed. I feel like it should’ve been known in advance if it was a bunker.
@blueskies7913
@blueskies7913 4 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the whole video? It was noted in advance all bunkers on the course, even if outside the ropes, were to be treated as a bunker
@crocidayle
@crocidayle 4 жыл бұрын
@@blueskies7913 If it is a bunker, then why did he get a stroke penalty?
@leavenosconeunturned2554
@leavenosconeunturned2554 4 жыл бұрын
@@crocidayle because he grounded his club before making his swing...in a bunker. That's a 2 stroke add I'm afraid.
@Jimaybob
@Jimaybob 4 жыл бұрын
Dayle Anthony have you ever golfed in your life?
@The-ct1xq
@The-ct1xq 4 жыл бұрын
Intentional grounding penalty He did it twice, too so one stroke for each
@seanmckinney3246
@seanmckinney3246 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this even today leaves an incredibly sour taste in my mouth about the sport I love, play, and compete in every day.
@Later_Doober
@Later_Doober 6 жыл бұрын
I love golf, but that's one thing that always pisses me off about golf. There are too many damn rules. Most of them I don't even understand.
@JohnJ-fj2xe
@JohnJ-fj2xe 4 жыл бұрын
So, your inability to comprehend things that are in writing is someone else's problem?
@Kingjoffrey12
@Kingjoffrey12 4 жыл бұрын
This music is way too epic for a video about sandtraps
@adg1017
@adg1017 4 жыл бұрын
Lol... solid point. Didn’t even catch that until you said it.
@psteeber
@psteeber 6 жыл бұрын
I was in the gallery that day, he drove the ball and it literally landed 3 feet from me in that bunker, after the officials got the gallery clear for him to shoot I kneeled down so I can see and I clearly saw him touch the club to the sand. These bunkers were extremely trampled with grass rolled over the top of the sand so it didn't really even look like a bunker. Bad break for Dustin
@alanvanasch4793
@alanvanasch4793 4 жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder if other players over the course of the week did the same thing but because of their situation or no cameras it went unnoticed and they didn't realize that it was illegal until dj did it in a bigger moment
@JohnJ-fj2xe
@JohnJ-fj2xe 4 жыл бұрын
That is absolutely true, and we will never know because those players probably didn't receive the same TV coverage as DJ and others. That said, many said that this ruling was 'unfair' to DJ. I disagree on the basis that overlooking Justin's breach of the rules would have been equally unfair to those players who knew about these particular rules and played within them (which may have cost them a stroke or two).
@MarkSmithhhh
@MarkSmithhhh Жыл бұрын
O I'm sure that happened
@NBorth
@NBorth 4 жыл бұрын
This moment killed whistling straits and the pga championship for me. I was not a fanboy of Dustin Johnson in anyway but I could not believe that situation. I was in golf course turf management for 10 years I still can’t believe that was considered a bunker. I still won’t pay attention to that tournament or anything they play at that course.
@JohnJ-fj2xe
@JohnJ-fj2xe 4 жыл бұрын
There was a posted notice to all players and caddies regarding these areas and how they should be played. Johnson either ignored the notice or forgot about it. He broke the rules, and paid the price.
@mezanine10
@mezanine10 6 жыл бұрын
If that was a bunker where is the rake?
@kirklandmyers9583
@kirklandmyers9583 4 жыл бұрын
Kaimer was dropping knowledge in the end
@jackthederp
@jackthederp 4 жыл бұрын
kaymer
@mikeporter5245
@mikeporter5245 5 жыл бұрын
If spectators are allowed to stand in it and walk through it then it isn't a hazard. Bush league rules, bush league course, and bush league tournament. We only have three major tournaments since that incident.
@JohnJ-fj2xe
@JohnJ-fj2xe 4 жыл бұрын
You really don't know shit about golf, do you?
@jayvincentsbarber2744
@jayvincentsbarber2744 5 жыл бұрын
obviously you need to conduct soil sample tests when unsure of what the composition of the ground is...what a joke... So there are bunkers that have patches of grass in them, trash, chairs, people, footprints and theyre located behind ropes with no rakes or anything else that would identify it as a hazard. Good job golf.
@JohnJ-fj2xe
@JohnJ-fj2xe 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, maybe the tournament officials should have anticipated this situation and provided written notice to players and caddies regarding how these areas would be considered under the rules. Oh, wait a minute...
@JT-xe7yi
@JT-xe7yi 6 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah guys, that sand in the cat litter box, thats a fuking bunker to
@jamesmariani984
@jamesmariani984 7 жыл бұрын
Officials and bureaucrats are basically little Napoleans, full of themselves and their limited power.
@95bochamp
@95bochamp 6 жыл бұрын
So, what would you have done? Let it go? Would that have been fair to the dozens of other players who did NOT break the rules regarding these bunkers over the previous four rounds? If you don't have rules, you don't have a game.
@irlnd32
@irlnd32 5 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t it done by some call in buffoon?
@piggysmalls4373
@piggysmalls4373 4 жыл бұрын
John Johansen but it was called in by some fatass on his chair watching from home on tv, not an official, not another player, just some asshole on his couch.
@Skumtomten1
@Skumtomten1 4 жыл бұрын
@@95bochamp Sure, but rules and laws are often very arbitrary and are dependant on distinct definitions that does not exist in the real world. The context of his shot made it impossible to tell if it was a bunker or not. If every piece of dirt/sand on the course should be treated as a hazard, what do you do if there is a single grain of sand on the fairway or green, should that be treated as a hazard? If not how much sand/dirt should there be in order for it to be considered sand/dirt and how clustered should it be?
@GamerBen87
@GamerBen87 4 жыл бұрын
@@Skumtomten1 I agree. You can't just say "all those areas with some sand will be treated as hazards" without being specific. If you are going to have incredibly specific rules, you need to be incredibly specific regarding where those rules are applied. There should be a course map that outlines all hazards.
@alquinn8576
@alquinn8576 4 жыл бұрын
omg the kerning of the text in that notice on bunkers is killing me
@tagenksu
@tagenksu 6 жыл бұрын
Robbed
@95bochamp
@95bochamp 6 жыл бұрын
Why? If it had been ruled any other way, it's the other players who would have been robbed. So, please explain why he was robbed? How were the rules not applied properly? What could have been done differently that would also have been fair to the other 155 players in the tournament?
@irlnd32
@irlnd32 5 жыл бұрын
Some idiot called it in from his 🛋 couch
@huntermichels1622
@huntermichels1622 5 жыл бұрын
@@O-Heyguys nigga im on DJ's side here but watch the fucking video before you comment. like fuck sake
@Grayback1973
@Grayback1973 3 жыл бұрын
I played this course about 4 years ago and when we got to the 18th I asked the caddie which bunker was DJ's ball in. My caddy said it was way up the hill off to the right. I didn't even want to go look because as anybody knows who has played it there are just a gazillion of those waste bunkers on that course and on that particular hole they are all up on a huge hill.
@Tingles004
@Tingles004 4 жыл бұрын
For everyone wondering it’s because he “grounded” his club. At the time you were not allowed to set your club on the ground behind the ballin a hazard or bunker, I believe the rule has changed but don’t hold me to it.
@JohnJ-fj2xe
@JohnJ-fj2xe 4 жыл бұрын
Under the new rules, a player is still not allowed to 'ground' his club in a bunker. However, a player is no longer penalized if his club lightly touches the sand during the backswing.
@Randsurfer
@Randsurfer 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnJ-fj2xe False. Touching sand during backswing is not allowed. Not before 2019, not after 2019. Very explicit in the Rules.
@JohnJ-fj2xe
@JohnJ-fj2xe 4 жыл бұрын
@@Randsurfer You're absolutely correct. I got that one completely wrong (apparently since the beginning of 2019).
@gcullen5331
@gcullen5331 4 жыл бұрын
This is why I like the ocean course rules at Kiawah. All bunker and sand areas are considered waste traps and therefore grounding and cleaning is allowed. No confusion such as this.
@danieltagle2525
@danieltagle2525 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to come back from this
@scotthartig4521
@scotthartig4521 3 жыл бұрын
I gained a lot of respect for the way DJ handled this whole situation. I would’ve felt robbed and gone full McEnroe. Johnson was understanding and professional about it all the way through, with the utmost respect for the rules of golf...even when they’re poorly interpreted.
@bremCZ
@bremCZ 4 жыл бұрын
This clip doesn't do anything to explain why there was a penalty to me.
@ibanezrg120s
@ibanezrg120s 4 жыл бұрын
My read is that they put a blanket rule on the course that anything on the course that resembles a bunker is played as one even if it wasn’t marked as one. He grounded his club behind the ball in a bunker that the gallery was just chilling in because it didn’t look like one. So basically they got lazy with setting up the course and expected the players to just figure it out on their own which is pretty much bullshit when a tournament is on the line and golf has so many super specific rules and regulations the players already have to know going into it.
@hubomba
@hubomba 4 жыл бұрын
It falls under testing conditions.
@Dancindazed
@Dancindazed 4 жыл бұрын
@@ibanezrg120s you still didn't explain it. the guy probably doesn't know you can't ground your club in a bunker or why.. your comment is likely the same problem as the video
@shawnkulzer5436
@shawnkulzer5436 4 жыл бұрын
In golf if your ball is in a bunker/sand trap you are not allowed to ground your club. In other words. Your club can not touch the ground before the actual shot. You are supposed to hover over until you actually strike the ball. Then your club is allowed to make contact with the sand.
@Tamaquashad
@Tamaquashad 4 жыл бұрын
Shawn Kulzer you actually can now with 2020 rules
@Alpine3d33
@Alpine3d33 7 жыл бұрын
Another prime example of how vegas wins again. Was there a sign posted for spectators to stay out if not then you know damn well they wanted this to happen
@zcmini000
@zcmini000 4 жыл бұрын
This was an extremely ridiculous ruling. Glad the club-grounding and TV viewer call-in rules have changed. But just a reminder, DJ wouldn't have won without that 2 stroke penalty. He would've been in a 3-way tie for 1st with Kaymer and Bubba and would have been a part of the 3-hole aggregate playoff.
@jacobplourde2388
@jacobplourde2388 3 жыл бұрын
So on some courses Sandy areas are classified as waste areas and you can ground your club but here anything with even the smallest amount of sand is a bunker. Complete idiocy.
@BrettTKB
@BrettTKB 5 жыл бұрын
Sick intro about the sand.
@cameronaezi_7840
@cameronaezi_7840 3 жыл бұрын
how is that a bunker if ur ball ends up in a patch of dry dirt they are considered bunkers?
@jsmariani4180
@jsmariani4180 4 жыл бұрын
With the aid of closeup TV shots, fans can now call in and report that a blade of grass moved which pushed the ball a 10th of a mm, therefore incurring a 2 stroke penalty!!
@jayfron6012
@jayfron6012 Жыл бұрын
Kaymer was all class about it.
@jimbob1427
@jimbob1427 6 жыл бұрын
That notice should have had a big neon red arrow pointing to it
@jpatrick1967
@jpatrick1967 4 жыл бұрын
jim bob or next to the bar where DJ was probably at before the round.
@atatat54321
@atatat54321 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t blame him for being peeved. Kaymer was gracious about it.
@TravelingwithValeman77
@TravelingwithValeman77 4 жыл бұрын
I think after his Master's win, this is a distant memory. Great champion!!!
@NHLChunky
@NHLChunky 4 жыл бұрын
so wait why was he assessed a stroke penalty? because it was OB? because he touched the ball before shooting? they dont really explain what happened beyond “hit from an unmarked bunker” and given a 2 stroke penalty
@claytojona
@claytojona 4 жыл бұрын
When hit from a "bunker" the club is not allowed to make contact with the sand before the shot. you must hover it over the surface and then swing
@NHLChunky
@NHLChunky 4 жыл бұрын
Jonah Clayton-Lomax awesome, I can see it now I appreciate the clarification
@gr8dfender742
@gr8dfender742 3 жыл бұрын
DJ was totally robbed here. The fans should not have been let in the area.
@thetruth1167
@thetruth1167 5 жыл бұрын
Stupid rule, what advantage did he gain from grounding the club near the ball
@ricky100593
@ricky100593 5 жыл бұрын
Bunkers are hazards and by grounding your club in them you're able to "test" the conditions of the ground to see if it is soft, firm, wet, dry, etc.
@thetruth1167
@thetruth1167 5 жыл бұрын
The rule about not being allowed to ground club/test sand etc in hazards should be abolished
@ricky100593
@ricky100593 5 жыл бұрын
@@thetruth1167 you obviously know a lot about golf so yea we should listen to you
@woahluca8037
@woahluca8037 5 жыл бұрын
ricky100593 lmao
@TehZNCify
@TehZNCify 5 жыл бұрын
@@ricky100593 you're a moron, this rule was already changed because it was regarded as idiotic along with you.
@23352408akash
@23352408akash 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry I'm new to golf, can someone explain to me what happened and what was the problem with the shot he played?
@carolinasport1315
@carolinasport1315 5 жыл бұрын
In 2010, you couldn’t touch the sand with your club before you hit your ball. That rule was abolished in 2018, and now you can “ground your club” in a bunker.
@23352408akash
@23352408akash 5 жыл бұрын
@@carolinasport1315 that seems kinda dumb, I mean like cmon.
@bobswagger4346
@bobswagger4346 2 жыл бұрын
@@carolinasport1315 Sorry, bro, but you still can’t. You can ground your club in a hazard, but not in a bunker.
@carolinasport1315
@carolinasport1315 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobswagger4346 you’re exactly right man I was wrong back then. Thank you!
@itmezach
@itmezach 4 жыл бұрын
I’m not aware of what was wrong with his shot, can someone explain it to me?
@ce8953
@ce8953 4 жыл бұрын
In golf when you hit from a bunker you can take practice swings, as long as you don’t “ground the club”, which means you can’t touch the ground with your club prior to the shot (because the sand is soft and touching the ground near the ball may affect the current lie of the ball). Dustin didn’t know that where he was hitting from was considered a bunker because of how far away it was and from the fact that there wasn’t really much sand at all, so his club touched the ground. This resulted in the two stroke penalty. Dumb ruling because of a confusing course
@itmezach
@itmezach 4 жыл бұрын
Cameron Edwards ohhhh u get it now, thanks my guy
@markcordwell2035
@markcordwell2035 4 жыл бұрын
I've never seen spectators walking and standing in bunkers before?
@blakeswansonfitness6240
@blakeswansonfitness6240 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. He was in the wrong for all the other reasons but when can fans or anyone stand in a bunker. So stupid.
@jenniferlans8687
@jenniferlans8687 4 жыл бұрын
How did he improve his shot ?????
@JohnJ-fj2xe
@JohnJ-fj2xe 4 жыл бұрын
He may not have improved this particular shot. However, at that time, a player was never allowed to ground his club in a bunker. Despite the warnings to all players prior to the start of the event, Johnson grounded his club and was assessed a 2-stroke penalty.
@Ken-ck4zn
@Ken-ck4zn 8 ай бұрын
@@JohnJ-fj2xe, he didn’t. Stfu
@samuelcraig2582
@samuelcraig2582 4 жыл бұрын
am i the only one who doesn’t understand why he was given a two shot penalty for simply playing the ball where it lays??
@JohnJ-fj2xe
@JohnJ-fj2xe 4 жыл бұрын
He grounded his club in an area defined as a hazard.
@Ken-ck4zn
@Ken-ck4zn 8 ай бұрын
@@JohnJ-fj2xe, “ defined” ? Bullshit
@JohnJ-fj2xe
@JohnJ-fj2xe 8 ай бұрын
@@Ken-ck4zn The players were advised before the first round that all of those sandy areas were to be considered and played as bunkers, hence 'defined'. So, not bullshit. Do you even play golf?
@Ryan-ht2wm
@Ryan-ht2wm 3 жыл бұрын
Wow so bogus. DJ grounding his club in that “bunker” didn’t provide him with any advantage to hitting that shot. It looked like a dirt patch, probably felt like a dirt patch under his feet/club and was a dirt patch when he hit the ball. 9/10 a golfer would ground their club there. That was a dirt patch. That sucks
@craigsandison5731
@craigsandison5731 5 жыл бұрын
Golf needs to modernise
@nitehawkcod
@nitehawkcod 4 жыл бұрын
Just getting into golf and I’m curious and to why he received the 2 stroke penalty just bc he hit it ball out of the bunker, could someone explain?
@tomcloss9764
@tomcloss9764 4 жыл бұрын
He grounded his club in the sand bunker,you can't touch the sand with your club in a hazard,2 stroke penalty.
@tomcloss9764
@tomcloss9764 4 жыл бұрын
0:36
@LegolasFan69
@LegolasFan69 3 жыл бұрын
There was grass and sand in his lie. Odd looking bunker. He got robbed and the pga is an embarrassment for many reasons
@2Thes22
@2Thes22 4 жыл бұрын
It it is a bunker it should be identified as a bunker with a rake and spectators should not be allowed to stand in it.
@nedseekamp8191
@nedseekamp8191 4 жыл бұрын
Tbh if Dj didn’t get 2 shot penalty from bunker he would of had 2 major’s already!
@rashwindersingh2759
@rashwindersingh2759 4 жыл бұрын
Oh he has it now
@bostoncurtis9559
@bostoncurtis9559 4 жыл бұрын
So the whole hill was a bunker? That little spot was clearly from foot traffic
@craigjohnson2301
@craigjohnson2301 4 жыл бұрын
I’m not a big golf fan and have found myself watching this at 3 am. Can someone actually explain what the rule was that he broke. Are you not allowed to put your club behind the ball if its in a bunker or something?
@ce8953
@ce8953 4 жыл бұрын
In golf when you hit from a bunker you can take practice swings, as long as you don’t “ground the club”, which means you can’t touch the ground with your club prior to the shot (because the sand is soft and touching the ground near the ball may affect the current lie of the ball). Dustin didn’t know that where he was hitting from was considered a bunker because of how far away it was and from the fact that there wasn’t really much sand at all, so his club touched the ground. This resulted in the two stroke penalty. Dumb ruling because of a confusing course
@craigjohnson2301
@craigjohnson2301 4 жыл бұрын
Cameron Edwards thank you mate
@PlaterpussLOL
@PlaterpussLOL 6 жыл бұрын
Where was the rake to cover up his divot in the bunker? oh wait...
@JohnJ-fj2xe
@JohnJ-fj2xe 4 жыл бұрын
You really don't know shit about golf, do you? There are no 'divots' in bunkers, and the rules do not require the presence of a rake to define a bunker.
@TheNZTchannel
@TheNZTchannel 7 жыл бұрын
Pretty new to golf so could someone explain this? Because this was an actual unmarked bunker he was not allowed to ground his club in the sand? Therefor getting a 2 stroke penalty?
@TheNZTchannel
@TheNZTchannel 6 жыл бұрын
That's what I figured. Thank you very much for your explanation.
@95bochamp
@95bochamp 6 жыл бұрын
A better explanation is that the course is designed with large 'waste areas' of sand and sparse grasses, but the tournament organizers designated these areas to be played as hazards throughout the course. The fact that spectators were allowed to stand in these areas is no different than when they stand in the rough next to more conventional courses. There was a notice given to the players reminding them that the waste areas, including where spectators had walked, were considered to be bunkers (which are hazards that have rules against grounding the club in most circumstances).
@ebsenraptzski9522
@ebsenraptzski9522 6 жыл бұрын
some asshole "designed" this hellhole.
@jeremyc9593
@jeremyc9593 6 жыл бұрын
A "hellhole" that hosted a major. Not exactly a hellhole now, is it?
@leebo130
@leebo130 5 жыл бұрын
I dont understand golf. What was the issue? What does it mean to play it as a hazard?
@1987irv
@1987irv 5 жыл бұрын
They did a terrible job of explaining it in the video. What I've pieced together is that you're not allowed to touch your club to the ground before your real swing, which is called 'grounding' your club. So the penalty was related to him 'grounding' the club, where it looked like he moved a twig, before he took his shot
@greengo7701
@greengo7701 3 жыл бұрын
Name of the course?
@berniejones5093
@berniejones5093 2 жыл бұрын
Whistling Straits
@MWayne-zz1cr
@MWayne-zz1cr 4 жыл бұрын
DJ got hosed, glad he was able to overcome the other idiotic ruling he received at Oakmont in 2016.
@JohnJ-fj2xe
@JohnJ-fj2xe 4 жыл бұрын
Why did he get hosed?
@fredrikwallin1691
@fredrikwallin1691 4 жыл бұрын
Sand on the fairway will be considered a hazard. Now that’s some level A BULLSHIT right there! Announcing it with a note in the locker room. LMFAO, these guys play for millions and that’s your heads up. C’mon man. I like Kaymer but to win it with a two put bogey after that must make it a disappointing win.
@JohnJ-fj2xe
@JohnJ-fj2xe 4 жыл бұрын
You don't play golf, do you?
@bwestby1
@bwestby1 4 жыл бұрын
Horrible set up by the PGA. Unbelievable how bad this was
@jacobmeadows1064
@jacobmeadows1064 4 жыл бұрын
I'm really not sure what it means to "play it like a hazard" could someone explain?
@GeoJesse
@GeoJesse 4 жыл бұрын
at this time, if you were in a hazard you could not rest your club
@JohnJ-fj2xe
@JohnJ-fj2xe 4 жыл бұрын
@@GeoJesse Under the current rules, you still can't ground your club. However, there is no longer a penalty if your club touches the sand during the backswing.
@mark_r49
@mark_r49 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the men’s basketball game in the 72 Olympics. Let’s just change rules until the Russians win.
@jimbob1427
@jimbob1427 6 жыл бұрын
The note to the players contradicted itself ! For it to be considered a bunker it has to look like a bunker. This is a.perdect example of golfs rule makers having zero common sense ! They should have realised this was a possibility of happening and made the appropriate rule changes
@95bochamp
@95bochamp 5 жыл бұрын
They did realise it was a possibility, which is why they issued written clarifications to the players PRIOR to the first round. Absolutely no need to change the rules.
@jsmariani4180
@jsmariani4180 4 жыл бұрын
Laidoff bureaucrats should consider golf umpiring as a career as they are already primed for useless minutiae.
@2Thes22
@2Thes22 5 ай бұрын
This is the most ridiculous ruling or situation I have ever seen in golf. If it is a bunker, it should have rakes, people should not be in it and debris should not be in it. I would bet that there were dozens of other players who did the same thing as Johnson that day but were not under the spotlight of the 18th hole on the final day by the leader.
@texasyankee3512
@texasyankee3512 6 жыл бұрын
Course was built on sand dune field (like many of the Scottish links courses) so were grass thins you have exposed sand. So you can only ground clubs were grass is thick enough. All of the exposed ground is sand and therefore a "sand trap". If course is watered and seeded properly hundreds of the thousand sand traps will fade away over time.
@ebsenraptzski9522
@ebsenraptzski9522 6 жыл бұрын
at the mercy of the idiots who "maintain" the hacktracks
@jeffbennett8093
@jeffbennett8093 4 жыл бұрын
And wheres Martin Kaymer now? Karma got him!
@michaeleone
@michaeleone 4 жыл бұрын
🤔 He’s since won the Players Championship and US Open
@JohnJ-fj2xe
@JohnJ-fj2xe 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, being a Ryder Cup hero, winning the Players Championship and winning the U.S. Open by 8 shots at Pinehurst can be a real bitch. I only hope that karma like that eventually gets me.
@totmarbz6830
@totmarbz6830 3 жыл бұрын
Why karma? He didn't do anything to DJ. Beisdes: Players, US Open, 3 Ryder Cups + the Ryder Cup winning putt, World #1...he did pretty well after that.
@theMull90
@theMull90 4 жыл бұрын
Surely you cannot have hazards in areas where fans stand and eat and sit and lie and drink in for four days straight, hazards that you then have to play from by the way. Basically it would be the same as allowing crowds to stand in greenside bunkers. then when your ball lands into somebody footprint in the sand you have to play it as it lies. Whatever about having to play it from the "bunker" but considering it a hazard that you cannot ground your club in is ridiculous. Anything part of the course in that way cannot have crowds of people standing there all day.
@JohnJ-fj2xe
@JohnJ-fj2xe 4 жыл бұрын
The topography of this particular course was unusual, especially the number of bunkers and where they were located. It was not practical to keep spectators away from those areas, therefore the notice was given to all players prior to the event regarding how these areas should be played. If such a notice had not been given, then Johnson may have been able to make the case that he should have been given relief. However, he did not even ask for relief and instead ignored the notice by grounding his club.
@cheetyliciousmeowmeow1085
@cheetyliciousmeowmeow1085 6 жыл бұрын
hey now!!! no haters...golf is the second best sport after football.. shit happens...good days and bad days...
@Randsurfer
@Randsurfer 5 жыл бұрын
'Those should have been labeled "waste areas", not sand bunkers.
@JohnJ-fj2xe
@JohnJ-fj2xe 4 жыл бұрын
Call them "Disneyland" if you want, but they were described in detail in a special notice posted to players and caddies before the tournament even started.
@Randsurfer
@Randsurfer 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnJ-fj2xe I know that. I have set up courses for tournaments before. My comment stands. It was poor course set up by the tournament committee.
@JohnJ-fj2xe
@JohnJ-fj2xe 4 жыл бұрын
@@Randsurfer Your suggestion would have caused more confusion by requiring many 'rulings' as to which sandy areas were bunkers and which were waste areas. The committee did the right thing by pre-emptively stating that all such areas are to be treated as hazards. DJ either forgot or ignored said notice and he was penalized appropriately. The committee did the right thing prior to the event and the officials did the right thing regarding DJ. I really don't see any problem in how this unfolded at all. Would you have preferred that the officials ignore Johnson's breach of the rules and thereby screwed every other player who played within them? If so, why?
@Randsurfer
@Randsurfer 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnJ-fj2xe Of course I do not suggest a breach of rules be ignored. Where have I suggested that? Most of the "bunkers" on this course were trampled by spectators. Ridiculous course set up and crowd control. The proof is in this situation.
@JohnJ-fj2xe
@JohnJ-fj2xe 4 жыл бұрын
@@Randsurfer I did not say that you made that suggestion. I asked whether you would have preferred if the rules officials ignored Johnson's breach of a rule (established because of a unusual course setup).
@darrenkenneth4080
@darrenkenneth4080 4 жыл бұрын
Caddie should have read and remembered this rule
@MrRyanxdavey
@MrRyanxdavey 4 жыл бұрын
And done what? Followed an inch behind the clubhead to grab it if it got near the ground? Or is he supposed to remind him not to touch the sand every time he's in a bunker? I get your sentiment, but DJ is the one with the club in his hand and the whole area is a zoo, putting this one on the caddy is ridiculous.
@CanadianLoveKnot
@CanadianLoveKnot 6 жыл бұрын
Things like this is why I don't watch golf anymore.
@UndoMove
@UndoMove 7 жыл бұрын
Stupid fucking rule..
@mariooo88
@mariooo88 10 ай бұрын
0:34 you can clearly see DJ instantly realizes he made a mistake by touching the ground with the clubface. That indeed is a bunker, just look at the borders of it. It IS shaped, therefore it's a bunker, not even to mention the notes at 1:32 , and I'm ready to bet DJ thought exactly about it, just too late.. when he grounded. Imagine if you're first in the tournament, and you either win or end up second if DJ will or will not be given the deserved penalty. I know it feels bad to get a penalty later when you end the round, but that's how it has to be before the cup is given to the victorious. Golf rules must be respected, or the whole meaning of the game just falls apart. ps. Believe me or not, I don't really mind... but in my first tournament to become pro I ended up 11th, first 10 would pass. A deserved and heavy penalty wasnt given to two players playing in front of me, I would have become pro. I lost faith in fairness, I gave my whole life to it and to honest play. I quit playing golf for 12 years. Let golf rules be respected until the cup is given.
@Ken-ck4zn
@Ken-ck4zn 8 ай бұрын
You’re wrong. Next
@mariooo88
@mariooo88 8 ай бұрын
@@Ken-ck4zn lol you seem very confident. "next" was hilarious. Can I ask you what's your handicap and for how long you've been playing golf? Because you know... I have no handicap and I will tell you for how long I have been playing, if you are so confident (and stupid) to answer me.
@MrKo1233
@MrKo1233 5 жыл бұрын
So wait i'm not an expert, what did he do wrong exactly?
@thepokemanguy5815
@thepokemanguy5815 5 жыл бұрын
Sandorro ground his club (letting it touch the ground prior to his swing)
@woahluca8037
@woahluca8037 5 жыл бұрын
Sandorro he put his grounded his club in a bunker, When in a bunker you cant touch your club to the ground prior to shot
@kylescott6698
@kylescott6698 5 жыл бұрын
I was there
@nicholasmaggipinto1008
@nicholasmaggipinto1008 4 жыл бұрын
fuck that rule. that's what turns players away from golf. technicalities.
@JohnJ-fj2xe
@JohnJ-fj2xe 4 жыл бұрын
So, you'd rather penalize the players who adhered to the posted rules?
@nicholasmaggipinto1008
@nicholasmaggipinto1008 4 жыл бұрын
John J: just stuff it John J. Shove it up your ass
@Marka1999
@Marka1999 5 жыл бұрын
wait why’d he get a penalty
@GuessWho-uc5uq
@GuessWho-uc5uq 5 жыл бұрын
cause he grounded his club in the bunker. You cannot touch the sand with your club unless it is during your actual shot.
@curositygaming
@curositygaming 5 жыл бұрын
@@GuessWho-uc5uq you know they changed that rule right? Its crazy that it costed dustin the tournament for something that would soon be to change...
@GuessWho-uc5uq
@GuessWho-uc5uq 5 жыл бұрын
@@curositygaming Actually as I typed that yesterday I completely forgot about the rule change until you just mentioned it. Thanks.
@KNIGHT-T1ME
@KNIGHT-T1ME 4 жыл бұрын
So anything could be considered a bunker?
@JohnJ-fj2xe
@JohnJ-fj2xe 4 жыл бұрын
Anything that was covered by the notice that was posted prior to the tournament.
@evansmith1234
@evansmith1234 6 жыл бұрын
why would anyone stand in front of him when he's shooting there? I know they're the best in the world but one little mistake and it could kill you
@ebsenraptzski9522
@ebsenraptzski9522 6 жыл бұрын
stupid idiots actually shout out "in the hole" too
@the-chillian
@the-chillian 6 жыл бұрын
This "bunker" was actually behind the ropes, and spectators had been walking through it.
@alexkoble9303
@alexkoble9303 4 жыл бұрын
Complete BS, DJ handled it so well
@JohnJ-fj2xe
@JohnJ-fj2xe 4 жыл бұрын
You don't play golf, do you?
@alexkoble9303
@alexkoble9303 4 жыл бұрын
John J ill beat you in golf little boy.
@knightlautrec4311
@knightlautrec4311 4 жыл бұрын
The course and the officials should be ashamed at that ruling
@JohnJ-fj2xe
@JohnJ-fj2xe 4 жыл бұрын
On the contrary, they applied the rules exactly as written and posted. It would have been shameful had they ignored Johnson's clear breach of the rules. Do you even play golf?
@knightlautrec4311
@knightlautrec4311 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnJ-fj2xe Do you often see spectators walking through bunkers then or?
@JohnJ-fj2xe
@JohnJ-fj2xe 4 жыл бұрын
@@knightlautrec4311 The tournament officials realized that it would have been impractical to 'rope off' these areas to prevent spectators from being there, so they implemented a local rule and posted a clear notice to players PRIOR to the event. Doing so is completely within the Rules of Golf governing sanctioned events. Players play out of areas where spectators have walked every day at every tournament. This was no different. Again, do you know anything about golf?
@chaseruge6523
@chaseruge6523 6 жыл бұрын
“Thinked” 1:08 😂😂😂
@spencergrant7901
@spencergrant7901 6 жыл бұрын
Chase Ruge “think that”
@azapro911
@azapro911 6 жыл бұрын
I understood that it didn't exactly look like a professionally maintained bunker but the bottom line is that if you are in sand, you ALWAYS hover the club to cover any eventuality.
@ebsenraptzski9522
@ebsenraptzski9522 6 жыл бұрын
nope. fuck those who design courses like skidrow
@azapro911
@azapro911 6 жыл бұрын
Skid Row or not, you don't take that chance in ANY sand. There were notices in the locker room about it.
@travisallen9689
@travisallen9689 5 жыл бұрын
@@azapro911 The "bunker" was beyond the ropes and spectators were standing in them. Doesn't sound like a bunker to me. Stupid rule and stupid course.
@azapro911
@azapro911 5 жыл бұрын
@@travisallen9689 If it's sand, don't ground, the risk is not worth it.
@tigerdicky8096
@tigerdicky8096 4 жыл бұрын
at the least his caddy should have been aware where all the bunkers were
@JohnJ-fj2xe
@JohnJ-fj2xe 4 жыл бұрын
True, but ultimately it's the responsibility of the player, and DJ fucked up. The posted notice was available to him just like any other player or caddie.
@Bonelesswatrmelon1
@Bonelesswatrmelon1 4 ай бұрын
The guy says what Dustin Johnson failed to realize. What about the golf course not marking a bunker and letting fans stand in a bunker? Since when is that a thing. Stupid golf rules that make no sense
@johnnyutah482
@johnnyutah482 7 жыл бұрын
All bunkers are unmarked.....
@TylerBlumkeYugioh
@TylerBlumkeYugioh 7 жыл бұрын
Johnny Utah marked on scorecard. It shows the hazards.
@johnnyutah482
@johnnyutah482 7 жыл бұрын
Tyler Tyler you think there are pictures on a tour scorecard?
@TylerBlumkeYugioh
@TylerBlumkeYugioh 7 жыл бұрын
I don't see why not. It helps the players and why would they have separate scorecards for the pros? Every course I've been to has a map of the course which helps a lot.
@GusLascola
@GusLascola 6 жыл бұрын
Tyler Tyler they definitely don’t have pictures on tour scorecards
@Randsurfer
@Randsurfer 4 жыл бұрын
Bunkers are not marked but they have a physical definition.. That's how we know they are bunkers.
@airbornepimp
@airbornepimp 5 жыл бұрын
why the penalty?
@Sh3rk69
@Sh3rk69 5 жыл бұрын
D X grounding the club
@kingshearer2
@kingshearer2 6 жыл бұрын
Silly place for a 'bunker' but he and his caddie etc should of checked everything on the days leading up to the tournament.
@Middle850
@Middle850 7 жыл бұрын
They may of made everyone "aware" with a letter posted in the locker room but this decision was crap. You can move your ball no closer to the hole for "ground under repair" or even "casual water" the rules say but a goat path where people have walked all over it and thrown trash down is considered a "bunker" also that letter said or referred hazzards last time I check if grounding your club in a bunker is a two stroke penalty when did a normal fairway bunker become listed as a hazard? If you hit into a creek that disects the fairway you can ground your club if in water, on the bank of the creek etc.. and it's not a penalty and that is considered a hazzard also... they may of posted this rule and DJ should have read / known it but this rule should never decided a winner. Stupid really
@95bochamp
@95bochamp 6 жыл бұрын
1) The player cannot unilaterally decide that an area is 'ground under repair'. The committee must mark it as such, otherwise it is just like any other area 'through the green'; 2) A bunker is a hazard. Geez....; 3) You can only ground your club in a hazard in certain ways under certain conditions. Johnson's situation was not one of them; Have ever even read the Rules of Golf, or did you just pick up what you think you know from the stiffs where you play?
@95bochamp
@95bochamp 6 жыл бұрын
All bunkers are hazards, making no distinction between those adjacent to a fairway versus those adjacent to a green. You should read the actual Rules of Golf to know what they actually say rather than relying on what you recall or your own interpretation of them. The rule(s) did not decide the winner. The players did. The player in question broke a rule that he had been made aware of prior to play, so he paid the price as he should have. If his actions were ignored, would that have been fair to the 155 other players who played their rounds without breaking this rule?
@ebsenraptzski9522
@ebsenraptzski9522 6 жыл бұрын
looked like crap
@mitchflello
@mitchflello 5 жыл бұрын
Fair enough
@cfluff6716
@cfluff6716 4 жыл бұрын
That’s some poppycock
@dfshjb44
@dfshjb44 5 жыл бұрын
I still don't understand what he did wrong
@JoelSmithR1
@JoelSmithR1 5 жыл бұрын
All the sand around the course was considered a "bunker", he grounded his club in this "bunker" that was actually a spectator area and got a penalty.
@dfshjb44
@dfshjb44 5 жыл бұрын
@@JoelSmithR1 what a crock of shit. Thank you for explaining
@MrKo1233
@MrKo1233 5 жыл бұрын
@@JoelSmithR1 What does it matter that his club touched the ground before playing?
@jc03571
@jc03571 6 жыл бұрын
Ridiculous. Golf get well deserved grief for situations like this.
@arthurgallaway7106
@arthurgallaway7106 5 жыл бұрын
Well that's how you put an upstart in his place they wanted someone else to win and they did. An official should have been there notice there wasent.
@JohnJ-fj2xe
@JohnJ-fj2xe 4 жыл бұрын
An upstart? You mean the 'upstart' who went on to become a Ryder Cup hero, win the Players Championship and win the U.S. Open by 8 shots? That upstart? As opposed to DJ who has spit the bit more often than not, and has only one major championship.
@95bochamp
@95bochamp 6 жыл бұрын
Please explain how bunkers are typically 'marked'. It's a trick question. They're not. So, it's not possible to have an 'unmarked' bunker.
@Iselus
@Iselus 5 жыл бұрын
what did he do wrong he just hit it from a bunker
@TaterTotskey
@TaterTotskey 5 жыл бұрын
Grounding your club in a bunker was a penalty at the time. The rule was revised in 2019
@Iselus
@Iselus 5 жыл бұрын
@@TaterTotskey grounding as in literally hitting the ground or like it being out of bounds or something
@TaterTotskey
@TaterTotskey 5 жыл бұрын
@@Iselus literally just touching the sand with the golf club before swinging at the ball
@oldben1800
@oldben1800 2 жыл бұрын
terrible terrible call
@snomaim
@snomaim 5 жыл бұрын
Golf is his profession. He should have taken time to learn the rules or at least have his caddie do it especially for a major tournament.
@samjames8690
@samjames8690 5 жыл бұрын
John Schmidt. Since when, is it ok for spectators to stand in bunkers? Total bullshit, that was not a bunker. Don’t spout bullshit
@neighbor18
@neighbor18 5 жыл бұрын
If its in the gallery how can it be a bunker? The course is stupid
@snomaim
@snomaim 5 жыл бұрын
Sam James I’m stating facts. If you have trouble accepting facts that’s your problem.
@MrScottwurth
@MrScottwurth 3 жыл бұрын
How dumb was the first 20 seconds of this video?
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