Dutch Mantell on Billy Jack Haynes KILLING His Elderly Wife

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[@rush1er]

Anyone else notice how Dutch's mustache moves like Yukon Jack from Rudolf the Rednosed Reindeer?

[@misterdeeds11]

😂

[@ernestcruz6316]

I'm guessing you're a whiskey drinker (lol). That was Yukon Cornelius. Cheers man!

[@rush1er]

@@ernestcruz6316 Guilty! Though I prefer Jefferson's.

[@gobigorange]

@@ernestcruz6316😂😂😂

[@JayLee-bv3vw]

Silver and gold, bumbler!

[@PapawsRoom-rj6xt]

This is crazy. I just watched a match from 85 with billy jack and sgt slaughter against the road warriors

[@stoenyce]

Me too. Crazy

[@bowlerfamily]

Me too

[@chucknorris2418]

Holy shit I just watched an interview with them.

[@chrischar9428]

​@@chucknorris2418holy shit its all over youtube

[@PuddletownDave]

I was a kid watching portland wrestling in the 70s and 80s when Billy Jack just started. He was our hero. We wanted to be strong like him. Its sad to see what things he did made him what he was late in life. Reality is sometimes not as good as fantasy.

[@scorpiouswrex]

The old saying never meet your heroes ring true alot.

[@philipmorris4843]

Like the old saying “ its the quiet ones that you need to look out for “

[@TheSophisticatedSavage]

The men who just want to be left alone

[@twsstar]

Doesn't everyman just want to be left alone

[@mattgreen2559]

I remember the story out of Arkansas in 87'. The train tracks. That was huge deal here when I was a kid. Live about an hour away from where that happened

[@CollinKillian]

Wife and I purchased property just outside of Mena.. Beautiful area..

[@lucag.lisickza425]

i live in italy and too i heard several times both on tv or newspapers of people doing mercy killings, for dementia or people with SLA

[@johngallagher72]

Actually Billy Jack changed his ring name from Billy Jack to Billy Jack Haynes because of threat of litigation from producers of the movie. It was around the time he was in Texas or Florida just before his WWF run around 84 or 85 that he switched to Billy Jack Haynes.

[@chrischar9428]

Pretty sure it was 86

[@mrs.witchyperfect9846]

yeah uh, isn't Jeanie the reason why Stone Cold was born. She was the English girl that Austin was married too that would tell him to drink his tea before it became "stone cold" hence Stone Cold Steve Austin

[@wauliepalnuts6134]

::glass shatters::

[@IntroducingMrLucci]

Nice made up story he had, but he obviously ripped that name off from the Brian Bosworth Stone Cold movie where he went by the same name & even wore the same sleeveless black vest.

[@wauliepalnuts6134]

@@IntroducingMrLucci Actually, Brian Bosworth's character had hair and he went by the names Joe Huff and John Stone. So, you're wrong on that.

[@garymaney9701]

Dutch ,I have been enjoying listening to somebody who tells it like it is. Keep it up.

[@davey3884]

I highly doubt he'll be deemed sane enough to stand trial.

[@ShadowAngel606]

Yeah it will be the same as it was with Verne Gagne.

[@RyWilsonGaming]

Davey :D

[@vincesmith2499]

​@@ShadowAngel606No it won't. Verne wasn't even arrested. Billy JERK already has been.

[@vincesmith2499]

The bar isn't that high.

[@theghostofrethsich2813]

Working in an elderly living facility who specializes in dementia. It’s incredible how much some people can change in a matter of days. We lost 2 last week

[@tron.44]

Where did they go?

[@Mike-es2yg]

Those places are jails for old people. During covid they wouldn't even let them leave their rooms! $500+ a day to be in jail! Insane

[@robotatomico83]

"Unburdened by genius" - James you're a legend

[@naxireal869]

My first thought on description was the friend may have been the mother's caretaker and Billy Jack maybe married her to take on that responsibility legally for his friend when he passed.

[@noelfuller656]

Todd hated billy for getting with his mom asked me to help get rid of him

[@johannbachmann4532]

​@noelfuller656 you kidding us right??? Is Todd still living?

[@bushman4949]

In the early 80's I lived in Sarasota. Once a month there was NWA wrestling. Four friends and me went every month. Before the matches the baby faces and heels would come out and line up on opposite sides of the lobby. Fans could talk and shake hands with the wrestlers. One of my friends was a body builder / lifter. Not huge 6' 215 lbs. Well he shakes Billy Jacks hand. All hell erupts. I turn around a Billy is all up in his face claiming he tried to pull his arm and make him look bad. I went over and got between them and lead my friend away. I am an honest 6'3 265 lbs. After watching wrestling all my life it was fun to see how much smaller a lot of wrestlers were then I thought . BTW Billy Jack in wrestling boots was shorter then me. On the other hand Blackjack Mulligan and pre Rocky Hulk were huge.

[@kevthegoat8774]

You saved yourself and your friend

[@JohnnyDouchbag-nr5yf]

That 16th century squire haircut Billy has finally got the best of him

[@johnkolko5199]

that was a wig he wears to cover his forehead scars he said in a shoot

[@JaceyMitchell]

​@@johnkolko5199he would have looked better with the scars. Man looked ridiculous 🤣

[@tobysgamingworld1550]

Yeah that was atrocious. Of all the wigs to wear……that one should be enough proof he isn’t sane to stand trial

[@E.C.2]

Dave Clark 5 special.

[@rocknroll6396]

it felt like something a president would wear in late 1700s

[@bigglilwayne7050]

The Billy Jack/Barry Windham fight is legendary for multiple reasons, probably my favorite shoot story ever

[@BClarke]

What happened? Don’t recall hearing that story.

[@angelbaaldepeor3688]

Barry poop on Billy.s head so Billy complained to Jack molligan an he said he is a grown man do as you wish so good old Billy beat the caca out of Barry Windham legend has it that Barry never poop on Billy.s head again.

[@ethanb498]

Pooped in his hat not on his head

[@angelbaaldepeor3688]

@@ethanb498 sorry I got him confuse with Vince.

[@ethanb498]

​@@angelbaaldepeor3688lol 😆

[@Joker058]

Dementia can come on fast sometimes. My Grandmother was in a nursing home due to her physical limitations and my Grandfather and I would visit her ever day. Her memory was sharp and everything was good until one day we came in to do our daily visit and her memories were gone and she didn't know who she was or who anyone else was including my Grandfather and they had been married for about sixty-five years. It turned out to be what they call vascular dementia. From that day until she passed she couldn't remember anything and didn't know who anyone was. It is a very sad thing to watch someone go through but it basically took all her memories overnight without warning.

[@jamestakacs]

If the sun was out Billy Jack would have wanted to blame someone. If the rains came Billy Jack would have blamed someone.

[@ralphharkey3842]

Have people forgotten about Doctor Jack Kevokian , the suicide Doctor? He was making his living helping people to commit suicide that did not see any other way out of their illness.

[@jeyDsixx18]

Terminal illness don’t provide an escape so these people had no way out, devoid of choice

[@angelbaaldepeor3688]

Doctor Kevorkian got seek an die with his loving family around comforting him on his last minutes alive something his victims could not have.

[@andyslaughter3986]

@@angelbaaldepeor3688 His victims? He didn't kill anyone that didn't sign up for it. A free person in a free country should be able to enlist someone to help them die peacefully instead of having to suffer and gasp for air for days on end. For some reason, people think it's wrong to let an animal suffer but right to force a person to. It makes no sense.

[@stevemelnyk7480]

I remember when I was younger reading about Billy Jack in the Apter magazines back when he worked for the PNW promotion in Portland. He was being hyped as possibly being the next big thing in wrestling once he made it to WWF or NWA but after he arrived in WWF, he seemed to quickly fall out of favor and was usually a mid-carder. He had a good look back then in the 80's but I think there were just too many guys overshadowing him back then in the WWF. The WWF roster back then was stacked back around the first Wrestlemania.

[@MrEmperorApples]

Knowing Oregon, they’ll probably only be angry that Billy Jack did what they deem the government’s job, with all that Jack Kevorkian ish up there

[@JohnBrown-pq9tj]

Yeah, that's moronic.

[@jamesmay5860]

Oregon is a sick liberal State I live here homeless people scum everywhere

[@reynaldoreyes9927]

Billy Jack was in WWF before WrestleMania 1, Billy jack ( not using last name haynes ) Debut for WWF in ( Chicago ) Rosemont, Illinois :Rosemont Horizon on 11/12/1984 last one to four quit WWF. He claimed to vince about Portland trail Blazer mania event. Thats how WrestleMania name came about.. Funny thing is Austin Idol was using Austin idol Mania in 1980 or 1981.

[@tobysgamingworld1550]

And Hulkamania was in the AWA right? Beatlemania was first. Crockett did a super card way before wrestlemania Vince just added the celebrity aspect. I’m almost positive Starcade was before Wrestlemania and had closed circuit cable access. Mike Graham and Greg Gagne claim they invented it lol. It’s so weird

[@brandonb6005]

This is probably the least surprising case of a wrestler arrested for murder. Even less than Johnny K-9, who was part of an outlaw biker gang. Anyone ever watching shoot interviews with Billy Jack, or hearing people talk about their interactions with him, would know he is notoriously unstable. This also wouldn’t be the only case in which he had married a woman connected ton the business to help them out, as I believe he married Jeanne Clark (future wife of Steve Austin) to help her with visa issues in the mid 80s.

[@kevthegoat8774]

Yes him and Jeanie was a business marriage, Billy said they only had intercourse like five times.

[@Kenneth-pv7pi]

Billy Jack was in Memphis for a while

[@markwilson9840]

Billy Jack was a fringe professional boxer,jacked to guilds,and anger management issues.He would be a handful for anyone when at his best.

[@pantangela]

Yeah he has and would put people in a hurt bag.

[@randysavelljr5324]

Wow...jacked to the "guilds" huh? 😂 Thieves, Fighters, or Mages Guild? I guess he coulds be jacked to the GILLS, but that wouldn't be nearly as funny 😂

[@alfonzohernandez3777]

Jack Kervorkian wasn’t he doing mercy killings?

[@lukelee7967]

As someone who has to work to get a paycheck to you know, not die. If you think your boss "overpaid" (that's not a thing) you. Don't say a damn thing. You likely deserve the money more than your boss.

[@scorpiouswrex]

Sounds like a mercy to me.

[@biarritz84]

A marriage between a 70 year old man & a 85 year old woman sounds financially motivated or a marriage of convenience IMO.

[@JefferyAshmore]

How about taking care of a elderly person you care for.

[@KR1736]

James said it best. Shocked but not surprised.

[@diablo666541]

I'm not surprised at all with Billy Jack Haynes his history a ticking time bomb he also had a known reputation for putting his hands on women as well as he did in world class wrestling I heard he had grabbed Sunshine by her neck and slammed her against the wall and had it not been for Kerry Von Erich pulling them off of him no telling what he would have done to her

[@zackwhite639]

F cancer and F dementia

[@puzzymonsta69]

Billy jack is a good man

[@Nemowrestling]

Cte is real. There has to be issues there plus being 70

[@JohnnyDouchbag-nr5yf]

Is that u Billy?

[@nonyabiz550]

No, he's not.

[@0089nyyankees]

I bought everything on here and the setup is great. The only thing I didn’t like is having cords hanging off my controller. So I hooked up the mic 🎙️ and everything in a wired controller and I play on the wireless controller. Works for GTA don’t know about other games. I also hook up a JBL speaker to the headphone jack so I can still hear gamechat. I have a 3rd controller with a wireless headset. I’ll hook that one up to the party on a 2nd a point so I can still hear gamechat on my JBL speaker

[@wabankik]

...Jeanie Clarke (from UK) Married Billy Jack to stay in north America and obtain residency...

[@kevthegoat8774]

Billy Jack married Jeanie Clark so she could stay in America, Chris Adams was in the UK at the time and he used to beat Jeanie. Adams was worried and rightfully so, as soon as Haynes did see him he claims to have challenged Chris in the locker room and he backed down. Chris Adams was very similar to Haynes and had a hair trigger temper but obviously knew his limits, there's a documentary on here which talks about Adams' life and downhill spiral.

[@Mike-kj6xe]

Dutch represent CLEMSON TIGERS... YES SIR

[@MrTodfoulk]

oh hell i knew todd and his sisters growing up, we went to school together! RIP bro i am so sorry and so sorry for this whole thing :C i didint know the beecraft connection was my beefrafts :C

[@m.otransformers4855]

Saying Billy Jack will fly to find you, they won't give him bail they'll consider him a Flight Risk

[@reneedavis7132]

the man is scared to death of planes. i know first hand. He wont fly

[@hellothere-b6q]

What most people don't know is that Billy Jack Haynes got his .38 and he was going to shoot the two guys that pulled the rib on him.

[@jackbarnes9728]

And the story of Billy Whack continues.

[@PolaBurrr]

Sad story

[@KevinOrtega1980]

I was surprised to hear this on the radio the other day and was flabbergasted…. Like really dude? Why? Just put your old lady in a home and take care of her, don’t kill her! My respect for BJH has went down the toilet.

[@Mike-es2yg]

Those "homes" are hell on Earth, unless you're rich and can afford the good ones.

[@jeanlongsden1696]

everyone knows that you can get away with lying in wrestling, if you end the sentence with "Brother". lol

[@sonnytsbr]

She would be on government healthcare at that age

[@sickboy6663]

​@@sonnytsbrbro the guy made hogan talks 💩 joke...what u on about?

[@mox19380]

i imagine billy jack married her with the intent of being able to help her and because he was married he could avoid a lot confidentiality stuff that may get in the way. Remember he married Jeanie Clark just so she could get her green card and stay in the U.S.

[@tupac1971ever]

Gabby Petito was killed & the guy called it a "Mercy killing" although he ran from the authorities and ended his life shortly after so that one probably wasn't out of mercy.

[@chall6761]

Dutch Mantell on Elderly Billy Jack Haynes KILLING His Elderly Wife

[@robertmorris1667]

Someone on here said that Rick Rude would be no match for Billy Jack 😂 All the matches are scripted so why would Rude not have a chance in a real fight? I heard about Rude winning a tough-man competition. Whenever they talk about backstage fights, his name always comes up. Haku is another guy that gets mentioned. They could have been good friends for all we know

[@robertwildes7550]

Was Tod Becraft the friend?

[@jamesconsiglio2709]

The movie was called born losers

[@lcb-]

She had family members who could look after her, so she could have had around the clock care - Billy denied them access and then killed her when the going got tough. He is a cold blooded murderer who has killed before, he should be segregated from the other inmates.

[@KyleOchoa-k6e]

People act like big age gaps in marriages are weird. Today, in modern day United States, 8% or about 1 in 12 married heterosexual couples have an age difference of 10 years or greater. In homosexual men it's even more common at around 1 in 9 couples, and in the past century it's been as common as 1 in 7. Actually the more unusual thing, statistically is for the woman to be older.

[@diablo666541]

I'm guessing Devon's going to interview him from jail and let me guess he's going to say That Vince McMahon had his henchmen come over there and kill her

[@elaineayers1564]

Todd was her son

[@elaineayers1564]

Her kids didn't want him to marry her

[@soitsanightmare]

Dutch hid when Bruiser Brody was stabbed. Only Tony helped.

[@dspencer1969]

Has anyone considered that his wife may have asked her husband to end her misery?

[@jeffreyfreeman4843]

She lost the full nelson challenge, unfortunate.

[@abefinklestein711]

His elderly wife? He's elderly too

[@thepleiadianlightgridproje4337]

It's sad I grew up watching him in Portland I've got many autographs from him he was really something it's too bad he could have been something.

[@72shmoe]

Did Billy want to become the Jack Kevorkian of wrestling? Not a good scene. I always had the impression that Billy was a bit distant and it didn't take a lot to get him mad.

[@johnjones8888]

Same people who claim Vince is the worst person ever are making excuses for this guy killing an old lady..... Gonna go out on a limb and say taking a human life is WORSE than consensually pooping on someone for money..... Even if you call it "mercy".

[@johnjones8888]

@@Anthony-fk7yn yeah, I think Benoit was an AMAZING wrestler. Drugging and killing your son with a wrestling hold erases all that......

[@nonyabiz550]

But Mcmahon k_lled numerous people

[@johnjones8888]

@@nonyabiz550 found the idiot.....

[@rogeroran2911]

A little bit off is like saying the Titanic was a tugboat.

[@universaltalentbookings1389]

Wrong . Billy Jack Haynes did indeed get sued by Tom Laughlin [writer/ producer and star} of Billy Jack for using the Billy Jack character . You can't copyright a title , but you can copyright content . You can not use someones name, image and likeness that is copyrighted .. That would be like producing Friday The 13th with a Hockey masked machete wielding killer . Friday The 13th with a completely different story would be fine . Billy Jack was sued and then changed his name to Billy Jack Haynes

[@undertakerfanz628]

Billy's mind is gone

[@jabbahursty]

what does it matter so much whether they got legally married or not?

[@vincesmith2499]

Billy JERK Haynes.

[@HWolfeIII]

Thou shall not kill, period. Don't try to justify his actions, because he chose to marry her.

[@81ghale]

Say what you want about the current situation, I think Billy was right about Vince the his payoffs, especially early on.

[@twentytolife4401]

Murder on the tracks is on youtube. What a strange cover-up about that story.

[@TherealDc82]

Wow 😳 this story doesn't sound right. Power of attorney and it's been too much sound very strange.

[@leeday2265]

I'm not into these Dutch videos where he comments on modern day issues without doing much or any homework on them. They also seem to be coming more and more common, especially the McMahon/WWE issues. This is not why I watch/listen to Dutch. BJH had been with this woman for a long time, and she didn't just have dementia she had alzheimer's. There's clear documentation of BJH being distressed/emotional about her health decline. Sure BJH is bat $h!t crazy, but deep down he's a stand up guy. There's no reason for him to kill somebody he's loved for a long time other than a mercy killing. I mean everything of her's was his anyway.......and a bullet to the head isn't something he's going to get away with a 'died peacefully in her sleep'. He knew, and expected to die also in this event. Very very sad, and probably very noble.

[@larslan1975]

Dr.Kovorkein

[@MB-oc1nw]

Very sad for both of them if it was because of her dementia.

[@plovy5115]

Billy "inventing Wrestlemania" is a bit far-fetched. He claimed talking about some sports event that ended with the word "mania" and that it might be the reason Vince chose it for his show.

[@thehappyhermit01]

Mercy killing?

[@Meatball2022]

Billy Jack was over because he was a big muscle good looking guy. But his wrestling skills were questionable at best. He was muscle bound. Stiff looking. Wrestled like Frankenstein. No flexibility. Didn’t seem athletic at all.

[@Meatball2022]

@@Hans-be6sm you’re out of your mind if you think he moved “like a cat”. Clearly you’ve never seen Barry windham wrestle. I grew up watching him. I’m fully aware of how he wrestled. To suggest he moves like a cat is an insult to cats. He moved like blackjack mulligan but blackjack was 6 inches taller

[@Meatball2022]

@@Hans-be6sm windham. undertaker. Kane. Vader. Bigelow. Ernie Ladd. All were WAY more nimble than him, yet even bigger.

[@Meatball2022]

@@Hans-be6sm you compare Billy Jack back then to Barry now? JFC. You always this foolish? Or is that extended purely to your “expert opinion”?

[@Meatball2022]

@@Hans-be6sm the guy “is and was a pro boxer”? Haha. Amateur boxer. Not pro. He isn’t anything now. He was a boxer after he stopped wrestling. And he was so amazing at it you can’t even find his record anywhere. He was a legit tough guy. But his wrestling sucked. Appears you’re butthurt by facts…

[@Meatball2022]

@@Hans-be6sm billy can’t do Chinese splits either. Lol. You’re an idiot and this conversation is now over.

[@MrTodfoulk]

they kept this hush hush in portland where i am. it was you two who told me it was him, the news didnt say it was him for 3 days!

[@TonySloan-c5s]

If he said it was a mercy killing that proves it was premeditated They couldve called a doctor as doctor assisted suicide is legal in oregon.

[@adamr9215]

It’s not legal anywhere in the US. Federal law still says it’s not legal, no matter what Oregon says.

[@JohnBrown-pq9tj]

@@adamr9215 Well, not to split hairs, but it's legal to the extent that Oregon won't prosecute physicians for. Sure, the feds can and probably would. But yeah, it's legal in Oregon. Regardless, even the staunchest proponents of assisted suicide have ever held that putting a bullet in your demented spouse is a legitimate way of "euthanizing" someone. I'm kind of appalled that anyone is attempting to rationalize this.

[@TonySloan-c5s]

@@adamr9215 but it is, please cite the federal law

[@TonySloan-c5s]

@@adamr9215 at least you can pay for sex, huh?

[@DrinkYourNailPolish]

He could've moved to canada and aigned her up for M.A.I.D. and the gov would've done the job for him.

[@YakBat]

All I got from this was that James should never meet Dutch at any airport alone.

[@polarfamily6222]

To those that are curious; euthanasia is still illegal as we're a nation that doesn't practice heathen customs.

[@djdarq6311]

America is the definition of heathen customs 😂😂😂. You can’t even go to a doctor 😂😂😂

[@TonySloan-c5s]

Doctor assisted suicide is legal in oregon

[@bluethunder5694]

I think it's legal in Washington st too. Are you just spewing sh!t? Are you on the mental level as billy Jack? Did you ride A short bus to school? When class started did you go to a special class? Do you wear a helmet at all times? You ever been a greeter at McDonald's? Do you wear sandals and socks together? Do you wear a medium but need a large? Was you 15 before you could the your own shoes? Do you have a big brown stain on the back of your neck?

[@adamr9215]

@@TonySloan-c5sAnd it’s still 100% illegal under federal law. So Oregon’s fake law means nothing.

[@TonySloan-c5s]

@adamr9215 no, it's not 100% federally illegal. it's too bad you're stupid, no cure for that.

[@gscrippler9499]

Dutch doesn't know shit

[@gbody2617]

I'm pro Vince McMahon and i can't wait until he makes all his haters look stupid!

[@sleazyfellow]

Dude was already unstable and he was in a old folks apartment and was allowed access to a firearm in the same house with a female in the throes of dementia. A receipe for disaster. I heard this all stemmed from a freaking hamster dying. Hes not all there either clearly, but hes got enough left to face a jury and be put away.

[@DabsDad]

I met Billy Jack Haynes backstage at the West Palm Beach Auditorium. The locker room there housed both heels and face. They broke Kayfabe for me because my father was local officer who had been shot and was in the hospital. I met Mike Graham, One Man Gang, Krusher Khrushchev, Pez Watley, Dory Funk Jr, Jim Neidhardt, Dick Slater, Jesse Barr and others. This was certainly uncommon then. They pulled the curtain back for me that night. My father died the next day. I'll never forget the kindness of the wrestlers. I think either Dutch or Kevin Sullivan was booking then.

[@wilfred8326]

Sorry for the loss of your father....

[@jesterr7133]

Dementia can progress very rapidly. I had a neighbor in her late 80s that I had known my entire life. She passed away recently. Up until a year ago, she was going on daily mile jogs, and was perfectly fine. Within a span of six months, she was completely incapacitated and required round the clock care. It is possible that his wife may have been fine when they met.

[@davidbonilla7770]

You are absolutely right I worked for many years with dementia patients and it can progress at any rate from 0 to 100

[@Persephone715]

Agree. Lost my mom last month and she had Alzheimer's. It is completely hard to explain to people. If you know, you know. It's definitely a cruel existence. For everyone involved.

[@pantangela]

Sorry about your loss but yeah dementia can progress real fast.

[@robintaylor485]

Thanks for the newsflash Dr. Dementia, cam progress very rapidly

[@davidbonilla7770]

@@robintaylor485 you’re welcome

[@tobysgamingworld1550]

We recently had a family member that went home and killed his dementia ridden wife, their dog and himself. The man wasn’t a bad person. He tried for years to take care of her and the system failed him. He loved her dearly for ages. No telling how this played out. You just never know.

[@HowardHarper-ct9mx]

He was also involved in two murders of two young teenagers. Although he claims he wasn't the one who killed them, he did say it was two dirty cops , during a drug drop off, and they just happened to withness the drop off and the dirty cops didn't want to leave them as withness. Billy Jack says that one of the cops use the butt of his rifle and smashed into the back of the head of one of them, cracking the kids skull and killing him instantly. He said he didn't kill them, but he did drag there dead bodies on the train tracks, and set it up to look like the two teenagers were really high on drugs and were hit by the train. Anyway theres a story about it. Its called Boys On The Tracks.

[@paulcarpenter7844]

Man you said it as best as I could every time I bring this up people look at me like I'm crazy

[@paulcarpenter7844]

He said it was the Clinton's that gave the word and I'm telling you this story sounds like it could of been a movie

[@raymondtipton7243]

Wow...thanks harper

[@bigglilwayne7050]

If you look into Barry Seal and the Iran contra, you will gain a much clearer picture of the whole situation, especially as how the Clinton's were involved

[@Mike-es2yg]

What?! I saw a documentary about that and I do NOT remember Billy Jack being mentioned!

[@southsudani983]

they probably agreed .. assisted suicide probably illegal there

[@TadashiYee]

Hannibal knew him well & said he loved her dearly & left a voicemail saying he loved her before the incident. Both he & she were poor, so money can't be a motive.

[@noelfuller656]

you dont know shit, her husband died and left her fairly loaded and Billy vultured in

[@scottashe984]

The Clinton's got her. Just like Kurt Cobain and Malcolm X.

[@irvingskyzanitzy3081]

look up the Unaliving of Don Henry and Kevin Ives for a couple more examples of someone dying around BJH...it also involves a certain pol...

[@kevthegoat8774]

Haynes wasn't involved in that though, he's a fantasist. People who were there have mentioned key figures in it and there was no mention of a jacked 6'2 Billy Jack Haynes in a suit and mask which he claims he was wearing.

[@Squeakypickles619]

Billy jack haynes vs Rick rude in a shoot fight would have been insane

[@pantangela]

It would be tough but money's on Billy Jack.

[@bigglilwayne7050]

Would be a good one for sure!!! How about the winner gets Danny Spivey lol

[@rocknroll6396]

​@@bigglilwayne7050😂

[@DabsDad]

I saw them fight each other in FL. 84-85

[@JefferyAshmore]

And what happened?​@@DabsDad

[@tritchie6272]

If Chris Adams is scared of somebody,then be very concerned. Cris Adams wasn't no joke. But then again,from what I've heard some of the folks Billy Jack beat up weren't exactly jokes themselves.

[@kevthegoat8774]

Yes Chris Adams was also a very unhinged man

[@ASDDrums]

I'm from Portland and growing up in the late 79's and early 80's, Billy Jack was a top star for Don Owens and his promotion. All of Portland who watched Portland Wrestling knew who he was and he was well liked. He had a lot of personal issues towards the end of his days in Portland and it's really to bad that this is how Billy Jack's legacy ends.

[@CarolGladfelder]

I also knew Billy in recent years. He was a customer where I was working. Very sweet man.

[@briannettles669]

The whole situation was very sad. His wife suffered from a very severe case of dementia. Billy Jack suffered from CMT issues, he sued the WWF/WWE for CMT issues and suffered from dementia as well.

[@mercoid]

The idea of an employer paying too well because they want to “own you”, is not uncommon. I am close to a person in just that situation. It’s an ego thing on the part of the employer. Not so much over the employee, but over the employer’s competitors.

[@Anthropoahagus]

This was obviously a mercy killing she was 85 with advanced dementia. Not making excuse for Billy Jack just stating the facts taking someone's life is never justified.

[@jamestakacs]

Well, if you listen to Hannibal's show in the past you'd see some very disturbing stuff from Billy Jack. Lot's of tangents. He did a very disturbing rant against Steve Austin. Like I said, some of Billy Jack's interactions with Hannibal will make you hide the women and children

[@JaceyMitchell]

Billy Jack Haynes and Hannibal make quite the pair don't they?

[@ferox965]

Hannibal egged him on.

[@jolly7041]

Ya..and Billy Jack said some disturbing stuff bout Dan Spivey numerous years ago also..and Dan's saying.."what's his problem"?🤨

[@DanKoval-j2t]

Hannibal admits that his conflicts with Billy were just a work.

[@jumbothompson]

I listened to a few of Billy Jacks shoots and he is on point with a lot of dates. His mind is not as gone as people think.

[@joeblo5804]

He was obviously "crazy" in the sense he lost his cool real fast, has done some things that are highly questionable, but listening to his interviews he's defintely not stupid. Further, my mom had alzheimers real bad and there is no way anyone can deal with it in a rationale, cohesive way without going nuts yourself. I'm not justifying killing someone but its good to know some background about these things ........

[@JaceyMitchell]

Lol except the dates of his Clinton conspiracy bs don't line up with his own confirmed whereabouts.

[@jumbothompson]

@@joeblo5804 It's hard to say what's wrong with BJH. I don't know if he's lying about the coke stuff etc....but the wrestling stuff is true. At least the dates. He's on point with all that. He knows when and where, who etc..

[@raymondtipton7243]

I agree Jumbo

[@chrischar9428]

Oh hes been gone awhile

[@g-man2507]

Isn't it alleged at this point since he hasn't been convicted of anything?