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@jujoboha Жыл бұрын
Way out of my price range, but can't wait to see this technology trickle down!
@65Drums Жыл бұрын
That's the best part of flagships, they spend R&D money on the hard to do tech first, and later when it's cheap and figured out, it trickles down to lower end drums
@bucknaked31 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had it for years… I bought Versatriggers…
@65Drums Жыл бұрын
@@bucknaked31 Versatrigger existed yes, I have one too. But did it have positional sensing on the snare? Pitch bending? Snare throw off? I'm not saying that's all necessary, but DW is bringing more stuff to the table than wireless only
@mikeydreadmastalski4345 Жыл бұрын
It's got to be some sorta magic...
@bucknaked31 Жыл бұрын
@@65Drums It was going to have positional sensing, but development stopped when DW got involved. It was a big letdown for me, but I assumed that I would be able to buy the DW version soon… had no idea it would take years, though. I was working on a snare throw off, but pitch bending wasn’t on the radar at that point.
@thedrumdoctor Жыл бұрын
Brilliant job! You're a natural at this and I'm not surprised DW lent you this for a review. They're right to take you as a serious voice and you remain my No.1 go-to channel for product opinion.
@michaelschack Жыл бұрын
Hi Justin, as usual a super high quality & truthful review! The Roland engineers in Japan continue working on those little things you mentioned. And more :-) Hope to see you again soon - it's been a while. Kudos for what you keep on contributing to the e-drum community!!
@MrBPJS Жыл бұрын
Hoi Michael, hoe houdt de wireless connection stand wanneer er veel andere draadloze systemen aanwezig zijn? Zijn daar resultaten van? grts P
@billmarshall2536 Жыл бұрын
As you stated, this set is only for a small percentage of drummers due to the price, but 100% of e-drummers would love to go wireless (with little to no latency). Great review, as always!
@sammcdouall4849 Жыл бұрын
Good honest review Justin. Watching the online reviews it sounds like the hi-hat, crashes & ride don't have enough multi layered samples, I can hear the cymbals machine gunning.
@drummer93uk Жыл бұрын
Hopefully they do a more affordable version of this e-kit with their PDP drums line-up 🥁
@yinYangMountain Жыл бұрын
Part of the cost solution was to make this DWe kit available in a less expensive DW shell pack. And, in the future, there is no reason Roland (who owns DW) can't put those 'basket-type' sensors inside the VAD shells.
@Shug1145 Жыл бұрын
Yeah
@rando_SC Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see the wireless version of this with the VAD 506/507 shells and rubber cymbals. Maybe in a couple of years they'll bring it down to a lower price point with "crappy" shells.
@benjamini25 Жыл бұрын
ePDP-Drum kit is coming soon... 😅
@benmasten5924 Жыл бұрын
Yes to the part 2! Very interested to know the smaller details of this kit.
@wouldstock19 ай бұрын
Ya,Iike how the conversion to acoustic goes.
@ThePowerchimp Жыл бұрын
Great review. I never buy the 'worlds first' of any product category, as they inevitably improve so it was great to hear that philosophy from someone else! I also appreciate you going in depth on the pros and cons of metal e-cymbals, something Ive long wanted manufacturers to nail. Questions for follow up / to test before the kit goes back...: 1. Is there any reason the kit needs a full size acoustic shell design? Could the tech work equally well in low profile/pad based configuration? 2. Does the wireless ecosystem make wireless headphones viable now? With everything routed to a computer rather than a module, can you use regular airpods, bluetooth headsets etc for lag free reliable use? Thanks again!
@dankenton Жыл бұрын
Great review- would like to see you use and record this with another drum library like Superior Drummer.
@Lemordison92 Жыл бұрын
The first step towards the evolution of electronic drums impressive as Roland always does especially in the e drums category.
@mikosoft Жыл бұрын
Well this is tech that Roland bought with DW and they themselves bought it. So yea, not really a Roland innovation in this case
@Lemordison92 Жыл бұрын
@@mikosoft You are wrong my friend first ever wireless drums with no cable's and removable🔋 the next evolution first we have xlr inputs lately we have 3 usb inputs on electronic drums now this is the next step from Roland that's why he bought dw and the future is brighter then ever.
@miguelelasmar Жыл бұрын
Excellent review. I command DW for trying this and pushing the envelope, however I don’t see a big market for this kit. The eAcoustic hybrids are a tough sell, they’re really not ideal for either use no matter how you slice it, even with Collector shells. The wireless is impressive and it must be a lot of fun, but yeah, unlikely to set the industry on fire or to be seen live ar a club next to you. Again, great review.
@Bill-vy3fx11 ай бұрын
This set is outrageous, its electric & a DW acoustic. Nothing is better than this.
@gregthegroove Жыл бұрын
I’m veryyyyyyy impressed with this kit. I did this exact thing with my DW Collectors series kit. I converted it and played that kit with both a 2Box module and the Pearl Mimic Pro. I love it. This is good stuff. Those cymbals look awesome and fun to play.
@earldrum Жыл бұрын
Absolutely the best review of this product that I have seen to date! Great work! This review really dissected the pros and cons of this kit and ekits in general.
@arsonne Жыл бұрын
These things sound amazing. The only thing I could possibly ask for with these is same kind of mesh heads pearl uses. Love that stiffer mesh
@reread2549 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing such a detailed review considering the limited time you have the drum set. You discovered flaws other reviewer’s had skipped over. Thank you again.
@TransgenderTalkTime Жыл бұрын
Nice shout out to Fork’s. I absolutely love that shop. Great staff, amazing stock and it is a drum lovers true heaven.
@fredturatti11 ай бұрын
Excellent video, thank you. You were unbiased, comprehensive, and accurate. You have the best e-drum channel on KZbin. Thank you for your service to drummers everywhere.
@matthewgray7135 ай бұрын
This is the 3rd review video I've seen on this kit and you answered all the questions that the other reviews left me wondering about. Great job Justin! I think I'll be sticking with my VAD-506 with SSD5.
@josephludwig1126 Жыл бұрын
1st, Justin, your playing has much improved over the years since I have been watching your videos. This technology will eventually make it affordable for all. Thank You
@phoon748 ай бұрын
You serious? Technically he's still really not very good, but he obviously researches e-drums very well. His presentation is top notch, but a shame he can't back it up with his playing. Just my opinion of course ;)
@sarinsahil Жыл бұрын
This is an excellent direction for e-drums to move in. For someone playing live this brings the best of electronic drums, looks and the easiest setup possible, ever. No cables about it! I am quite excited see how this will evolve in its upcoming iterations. Personally speaking I think this one lays a solid foundation for the evolution. Being a tech yourself, what do you think Justin? P.S I am coming from a place where the biggest tours in the world are mostly reliant on the hybrid approach, more of electronics and triggering pre-made sounds .... a lot less reliant on actual acoustic drums for the mix.
@user-ny3rk8cr1t Жыл бұрын
Hey man, I'm a big fan. It goes back to watching your early videos years ago. All thanks to you and your videos I was able to buy my first e-kit. The DWe video from some other channel popped up in my yt feed. As soon as I saw that DWe launch is here, I searched for your channel to understand everything. Thanks once again for being such a help. All the very best.
@daltonidaho Жыл бұрын
I'd love to pair these drums with my Roland cymbals! DW did an outstanding job with this release. Love the wireless capability and it sounds great. Can't wait to see how they continue to tweak and improve over the years.
@EDCaub Жыл бұрын
That will be possible. They are selling the shellpacks by themselves as well.
@angelorasmijn7306 Жыл бұрын
This is the best review I viewed so far. Great job!
@W3ndigX Жыл бұрын
Wow, I'm really sold on some of the features of this kit. Pitch bending, throw-off and the high end shell pack are awesome. I would love to have a trigger that allowed pitch bending on my kit.
@rasakiayodele74793 ай бұрын
High end shell pack is a plus only if you want to buy a stupid expensive acoustic kit just to use it as an electronic kit. Personally, I already have a nice acoustic kit I prefer.
@davidmcaninch47143 ай бұрын
Here’s a quote that, for me, sums up DW Drums absolutely perfectly. It’s from one of my favorite movies, Robots; the character giving the quote, Bigweld, was the founder and CEO of Bigweld Industries, and he said this: “You know, I love to tinker. But all the tinkering in the world isn’t useful unless it starts with a good idea. So, look around for a need, and start coming up with ideas to fill that need. One idea will lead to another, and before you know it, you’ve done it!! See a need, fill a need.”
@marcosdepaula3593 Жыл бұрын
In comparison to the VADs, how much louder or quieter are the actual drums? The cymbals seem to be much louder, but what about the drums?
@matthewpaluch777 Жыл бұрын
FINALLY!!! The 1 review I've been looking for! Thanks Justin.
@napoleonsmith3028 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video Justin! I’m always happy to see your videos
@RunningInSuits Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a comparison of this kit vs the vad706 with superior drummer.
@ricklang_drummer Жыл бұрын
Good review Justin. The metal cymbals are probably a dealbreaker for many. I am however yet to be convinced that people would prefer having a "hybrid" kit like this one where they need to assemble/disassemble the kit (sort of) when they need to go acoustic and vice versa, over having a dedicated acoustic kit which is "just there", possibly along with a serious e-kit that has a solid reputation. Most drummers I know (including myself) have at least 3-4 acoustic kits. It's like buying 2-in-1 shampoo and conditioner. If people buy this kit I would presume it's primarily for it being an e-kit (and, of course, the groundbreaking wireless novelty being the USP). The other dealbreaker is the ability to connect this kit to other drum software VSTi:s. Here, the Soundworks software is basically the module sounds, so I would really hope there is a way to continue routing the outputs from the Soundworks software to Superior Drummer or other libraries (BFD, AD, SSD, NI, OWD, GGD ...). I tried to find some info on this but haven't. Will see Sweetwater Nick's walkthrough as well. Huge miss if that has been overlooked, even if I'm sure Soundworks is capable. I am more than happy to let the early adopters take this bullet.
@482jpsquared8 ай бұрын
The DW trigger interface is agnostic. You don't need to use the SoundWorks software. It produces MIDI signals and that means you can connect it to any drum module and any drum software.
@shiznatz1 Жыл бұрын
One of the major selling points for this kit is that you can easily remove the electronics and have a top of the line DW acoustic kit to play. How practical is that application, and could the electronics be moved to a different kit with similar results?
@caseyschultheis10 ай бұрын
best video on this ekit I have seen so far. all my questions are awnswerd! Can't wait for a lower cost version.
@toxicgardengnomes Жыл бұрын
The HIhats failing is the biggest concern you'd have to say. That makes it untenable. Are you sure that's not a calibration issue, Justin?
@marv6424 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the extreme high quality and balance in your reviews.
@troublesomecorsair Жыл бұрын
9:28 I like that you put a Prophet-6 in the slide instead of a Korg microPiano 61
@BrettVano Жыл бұрын
As someone brand new to edrumming with a TD27, it's mind blowing to learn about the other stuff that's out there. Nice review. Thanks.
@boinknook Жыл бұрын
Well, this looks like the beginning of the end of wired module edrums. Eventually this is gonna be the new standard. It would be great if you can just install this in an existing shell pack. Also with 30 drums, the sky is the limit!
@johndef5075 Жыл бұрын
The review we've been waiting for! Thanks Justin!
@friedpicklezzz11 ай бұрын
FINALLY some real innovation in eDrums land. I applaud DW for doing something new and exciting. Roland has been sitting on their asses for decades, only doing the bare minimum. They even sound like early 2000s tech. Price is a problem though. Hope they can revise that.
@LordSnoodles Жыл бұрын
this is a very solidly presented review that gets right to interesting aspects straight off and keeps it there. That said, $11,000 for a drum kit is hilarious, no matter how cool and snazzy these seem. With that money you could have a space built to isolate any much better sounding acoustic drums that cost 1/10 of the price / pay for a practice space to enjoy proper natural drums. Edrums will always be the vegan version of drums, always getting that much closer to "real meat," but never getting there.
@CP-mt1st4 ай бұрын
Im gonna have to go E drums then. Better for my health, the environment, and the sake of the animals.
@drummermomcjs Жыл бұрын
It totally makes sense now why Roland bought DW. If they had a whiff of this kit and the tech in this kit, then Roland had to jump on this. It shall be interesting how things progress in the next few years on the ekit front now that this has come out. I am a little surprised that you didn't cover how long it takes to change it from an ekit to an acoustic kit and from an acoustic kit back to an ekit. If you could, do a video on that, and on the availability of user ekits vs preset kits and how many preset kits does it come with? Thanks Justin for another great video review.
@stofzuigzakkie45 Жыл бұрын
ohhhh man! I am so excited for this wireless stuff to be more affordable over the years. im a left-handed drummer and I can only dream of easily sharing an e-kit with right-handed people
@Hotdang617 Жыл бұрын
Hey Justin, thanks for the review! Would this be a better way to trigger SD3 compared to USB midi from TD50x? If so, would you get same results if connected via TD50x to wireless hub? Like most ppl not sold on the cymbals. Would you say the ride is significant;y louder than Roland's digital ride? Thanks again!
@bmbell71 Жыл бұрын
I got a chance to play this at a Guitar Center display model. The good, this technology is revolutionary. I was amazed that with being wireless, there is no latency here. Not sure how they do that, but it was pleasing. Best kick drum feel I've seen on an e-Kit. The cymbals feel great to play, and the overall feel of the kit was spectacular. Having real size drums, you feel right at home. For the bad, the cymbal triggering is just OK, not great. I was extremely disappointed in the hi-hat triggering. Roland sill rules here as far as realistic sound sampling/modeling. I don't know if it was a setup issue, but there was no automatic side stick triggering. It's cool they have the snare throwoff, but it's just not quite there. Bottom line I don't feel the price is justified by the performance. I would not trust this rig in a live setup and it would be super frustrating in a recording setup. I can appreciate the push for technology here, and may be software and firmware revisions can improve this. Because of the relationship with Roland, I feel this could one day be the future, but on the other hand Roland is also going to compete individually on their own. DW is run as a subsidiary, so it's not like they are fully sharing everything. I feel this product has a very niche market.
@rioborzeli147 Жыл бұрын
Your right about the cost, that said ...😀😀🤘🤘🤘NO CABLES, No more bad ends, no more re splicing , no more routing all cables all over and plugging into wrong inputs lol. Old times. Love the wireless also love it works with mac, The price is not that bad for the convenience . Very nice
@spyrosmagliveras8851 Жыл бұрын
Congrats on the video! This was a very difficult product to present and you did a great job. Very objective and realistic when highlighting the pros and cons. I think DW made a huge bet on this one. The price range is extremely high and I think many drummers will think twice before making such a big investment on such a new (and undoubtely cool) wireless technology.
@MikeLuke Жыл бұрын
I am impressed, though. Wireless drums are a dream come true. I think for a touring drummer, this is the way to go due to the convenience that goes along with it. Probably would pair this on stage with acoustic cymbals, though. Yes, the price tag is pretty high - but ultimately you also get a full DW high-end acoustic shell pack included. Just remove the internal trigger system, put some Remo heads on it and you have DW Collector‘s series which alone would cost $3,500 and more. Thanks for the review Justin - and hope you‘re doing well.
@65Drums Жыл бұрын
Hey Mike long time no see, yeah it's a really interesting kit!
@thomaskennydrums Жыл бұрын
To be honest I think it being wireless absolutely kills its potential for use by touring drummers, since no matter how reliable a wireless system is, on any big tour I can't imagine any drummer wanting - or more importantly, engineer allowing - wireless instead of wired (especially for something as vital to the show as drums) and for smaller tours I can't see anyone using this either. It's incredibly expensive so likely beyond the budget of 99% of drummers (and even those who can afford it probably wouldn't bring something so valuable on tour with them) and it being the same size as an acoustic kit and requiring the exact same hardware loses the (relative) portability more standard electric kits have.
@65Drums Жыл бұрын
@@thomaskennydrums about the wireless angle, I understand what you're saying. But if wireless can't be used live, then why do I see guitar players using them instead of cables on stage? How come I'm handed a wireless In-Ear system before going on stage? These drums use 2.4ghz to transmit, similar to a monitor pack. About the price, yeah I have no argument on that. DW is the Gibson of drums. They both charge too much.
@thomaskennydrums Жыл бұрын
@@65Drums (I'm looking back at this just now and realising it accidentally turned into a bit of an essay haha) - Wireless can be used live, but there's no point using it unless it's actually needed and provides a significant advantage over wired, which isn't the case for drums. Guitarists benefit from wireless much more than drummers would given the risk of tripping/unplugging the cable, moving about on often large stages and regular guitar swaps. Drummers (and even more the drums themselves) don't need that mobility, and going wireless when you could go wired is just another potential point of failure both with latency and connection. I know drummers do use wireless in-ears (especially if they'd be getting up and down from the kit) but I also know a lot of drummers/engineers absolutely refuse to do anything but hardline for their ears as if the drummer loses track/click/the other instruments it's absolutely disastrous, and it's significantly more likely for that to happen with wireless (and harder to troubleshoot) than wired. In the case of a wholly electronic kit for a gig then I can't imagine any engineer allowing arguably the most important (or at least most obvious if it cuts out) instrument on stage to be needlessly wireless since it has zero need for mobility, and if it would just be some electronic drums as auxiliary sounds etc (where it wouldn't necessarily be world ending if they cut out), the extra ease and the appearance of wirelessness is irrelevant as it isn't hard to connect a 1/4" cable and everything else will have wired mics anyway. Even then, big tours aren't prioritising what is essentially laziness and minor aesthetic choices in not wanting to plug in or see cables over reliable, consistent sound. I can also imagine the receiver being pretty off-putting to any tech/engineer on a tour, as it's a pretty new proprietary technology so isn't as road-tested, probably less repairable/interchangeable/compatible with industry standard stuff, and more importantly, doesn't seem to have any capacity for redundancy which is absolutely vital for wireless on big tours. With regards to price, as expensive as these are, I think the price is fair (ish) to charge given that it is a Collector's series kit and brand new very impressive technology, it's just too expensive to afford for most people however fairly (ish) priced it is.
@charlesrocks Жыл бұрын
This sounds fantastic. Those dynamics are very realistic.
@Edrumcenter Жыл бұрын
Very good review Justin!
@65Drums Жыл бұрын
thanks!
@progression_decibel Жыл бұрын
Wonderful and insightful review as always Justin! I wholeheartedly agree with a lot of your points, especially with the cymbals and target audience. Look forward to the wireless technology trickling down to other Roland kits and pads. A couple of fun facts: you can purchase the Soundworks VST and expansion libraries through Roland Cloud Manager, the kits were recorded with something like 15 mics, and there will be a few dot revisions of firmware coming as this thing is released/bought. If Pearl ever gets their act back together and matures the ePro Live kits paired with the Mimic Pro module, it would be an interesting commerce battle. I'm not holding my breath though, sadly. Hoping to give these a go at NAMM if the company gets a booth.
@SoonerThunderFan Жыл бұрын
lol when is the last time DW didn't have a booth? They have every year I've gone, I skipped some COVID years though.
@progression_decibel Жыл бұрын
@@SoonerThunderFan I was at winter NAMM this past April 2023 and they were not there. Hoping they and/or Roland will be this coming January 2024 NAMM.
@TheLeftistOwl Жыл бұрын
I just recently played this at a local store and I could not tell a difference in latency between this and my kit at home. This is definitely going on my wishlist and if they ever sell the trigger system or the module separately, I'm going to get it piecemeal. It is so much more convenient than my current kit and would be my forever kit.
@K3NH11 ай бұрын
Justin. You're the beast. They should be picking you for a tester before they send out to the market. Cheers M8!
@rockon856 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video Justin ! Loved it
@chaindrums Жыл бұрын
Amazing review as always! Impresive kit and the fact that they are premium DW shells and one can easily convert into acustic e such a great ideia. I hope this comes to less expensive kits!
@coder4liberty Жыл бұрын
You might not need a super expensive audio interface to get individual outs for this. There are a few low priced digital mixers out there which could do the job including those made by Behringer and Soundcraft. There are also audio interfaces which may not have ten outputs but do have mixer software to do stems of drums (like all the toms on one output, all the cymbals on another). Several of the MOTU interfaces can do that.
@65Drums Жыл бұрын
Good point! Though I think the person who drops $10k on this set, will probably buy a expensive interface to go with it anyway
@bucknaked31 Жыл бұрын
You are correct… I use SD3 into a Behringer X32. I originally used the USB built into the x32, but to get the latency down to an acceptable level, I had to use an RME Raydat and lightpipe into the x32 lightpipe card. Now it’s ridiculously low, but it cost a little over a grand to do it. The upside is that I have by far the lowest latency setup available…
@coder4liberty Жыл бұрын
@@65Drums Probably but as an audio engineer if it was me I would see a $1400 Apollo interface as major overkill. MOTU even has one which has just outputs that would be perfect for that.
@coder4liberty Жыл бұрын
@@bucknaked31 The ones I'm thinking of are the small rack mount mixers like the XR Behringer or the Soundcarft UI stuff which are well under $1000 and that's if you get them new.
@bucknaked31 Жыл бұрын
@@coder4libertyThat’s all well and good, but the latency is terrible on those. When I said $1000, I wasn’t including the cost of the x32 because we already used that board as our main PA.
@marcusdrums_hh Жыл бұрын
Great Video again! How is the Hi-Hat compared to the Roland VH-14D?
@65Drums Жыл бұрын
Roland and then EFNOTE are the kings at the moment in the hihat world
@kdw735 Жыл бұрын
I would just like the internals so I can retro fit my DW Collector. I don't take my ekit out to gig with because of all of the cables I'd have to deal with all the time.
@cd-vq6dz Жыл бұрын
you do the best videos online about e drums I've seen Justin. I just watched a video about e drums that was suppose to be a sort of introductory roundtable discussion about e drums and the differences between e drums and acoustic by Drumeo, and it was total f'ing garbage. Nothing about hot spots, nothing about what happens when or if you break a head or cymbal, nothing to really speak of in regards to understanding a module if you've never used e drums etc. What I did get from those fools was close to an HOUR of jokes, an inability (on the rare occasion they did get into specifics) to stay on a specific topic or concept, nothing about potential durability issues, and instead a whole lot of their opinions on what each of them personally liked or didn't like about e drums. In other words, a TOTAL waste of time. I wanted to thank you personally for taking so much time in your videos, being thorough, and realizing that just because you know a whole lot about e drums, a lot of us still don't. I'm in my early 50's and I played very seriously for over 25 years, stopped for roughly 10 years, then came back to drumming. My body isn't the same (multiple surgeries etc), and because of that I'm considering an e kit. Your videos have been truly invaluable Justin. Keep up the good work. I wish you all the success in the world.
@frankieloveband Жыл бұрын
Love those drums- but can't afford them at this time. Would be nice if they would also offer the wireless trigger system to fit on anyone's acoustical drum kit (separately) at a more affordable price for us average guys. Amazing technology. The computer program looks awesome, Ahhhh to dream,
@Stoovey24 Жыл бұрын
First things first. It's fresh to the market. Conversion kits might be able in a few years.
@egigar8520 Жыл бұрын
For me what has worked the best is to use electronic pads and acoustic cymbals with overhead mics. For live performance.
@DouglasLippi Жыл бұрын
Very interesting, great video. I am not an early adopter when $10k is on the line. Will watch its progress eagerly.
@tonedowne Жыл бұрын
I think the thing that this kit does like no other, is sit in a studio and send wirelessly to the studio computer from another room, and then let you change how much of the kit you want electric or acoustic on the fly. So maybe you are doing a metal record all acoustic with the kick in e drum mode, and the producer decides the toms have too much cymbal bleed, just pull the top head off and drop the trigger in. No need for extra cables and a module. I’m interested to know what happens with acoustic heads and the triggers. Obviously it’s going to be a dampened sound, but some people like that. Maybe it won’t trigger right. I would love to know.
@LordSnad0r Жыл бұрын
Would love to hear your opinion on the durability of the materials and latency/lags or even sounds drops a bit more. Might be difficult to judge in such a short time window but from your experience maybe. The price is super steep so any acoustic die-hard early adopter would like to understand if warranty claims are a high risk here and/or whether the tech will be a little less unique in maybe half a year from now? Meaning, do you think that many of the other brand will now soon follow? My guess would he that dw has something that sets them far ahead of the competition which is qualitatively better for years to come, that would make the expense more future proof. Happy to hear your thoughts. Lastly, what about the differences in finishes and price for these variations? Where do they stem from?
@paradiddle5150 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Justin!
@brentsutherland Жыл бұрын
Very detailed review. Thank you for breaking this down. Am considering this set so your thoughts are helpful, especially the truthful comments on the cymbals. Will find somewhere to test it out in person.
@BrandonMilner Жыл бұрын
Spectacular review. Thorough and very very helpful. I was struck though by just how BAD those hi-hat and floor toms sounded. I’m really sensitive to that machine gun repetitive sample sound and that hi-hat sounded nothing like a real hat to me. Was it just the sound chosen?
@brycenwhittington280 Жыл бұрын
Hoping they add patches for Individual DW artists as buyable packs. Would LOVE to see a Chris Turner pack. I’m so In love with his drum sound
@ChrisBealsProductions Жыл бұрын
I’m assuming the snare throw off is applied to an FSR sensor and the pressure of the magnet turns snare sounds on/off OR simply a switch that the magnets engage? I’d also say that the “wireless feature” was added to the v1.0 to draw more attention out of the gate. Hardware-wise it’s probably okay. Firmware updates abound.
@BMdrumz9 ай бұрын
one huge thing you forgot to mention is that these triggers can come out with the turn of a drum key! so if you need play live you take them out and you have a top of the line acoustic DW kit ready to go with a simple head change. its really 2 high end kits in one!
@Oftmpartyband8 ай бұрын
If you want to play acoustically, I’m assuming that you’d have to use a different snare.
@ssvillcYt Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see you going through sounds (not all obviously) but basically build your dream kit live with how it sounds along the way.
@robrobertson2661 Жыл бұрын
I hope they will make a version that you can apply to your own, acoustic kit.
@drummeranimal Жыл бұрын
Love this review, Justin. You covered most of my thoughts about a wireless edrum kit. ❤
@gualtercouto Жыл бұрын
I love your reviews dude! Really looking forward to trying the cymbals! It's so COOL that they have 360-degree sensitivity and can free spin with no cables. Someone finally came up with a wireless system...the cable management on my drum kit is a nightmare haha
@TheWolf92 Жыл бұрын
I use versatrigger. Which I believe you reviewed some years ago. I use the U-boxes where you plug your own 3rd party triggers into the boxes and it’s all still wireless. Not a fan of the boxes that have the trigger already built in them like what you reviewed. Those can be a bit weird. But at any rate, I play it everyday and it’s amazing. He doesn’t make them anymore. Just spoke with the guy about a week ago. I wonder if he sold the idea to DW and they took it over and did their own thing with it and this is the creation? 🤷🏻♂️
@65Drums Жыл бұрын
yeah I still have one of those early versions of Versatrigger, when you couldn't replace the battery. Cool concept. I think he worked with DW in some capacity for this, but DW is very tight lipped on that stuff.
@ironblast5 Жыл бұрын
Yes they bought the design and expanded on it
@bucknaked31 Жыл бұрын
@@ironblast5 That’s exactly what happened…
@482jpsquared Жыл бұрын
@@65Drums Actually, the Sweetwater interview of the DW developer head specifically names Paul Piscoi, the inventor and founder of VersaTriggers, who they brought on board at Roland to continue its development. it's not tight lipped at all.
@bucknaked31 Жыл бұрын
@@482jpsquared It’s not tight lipped any more, but it was for a few years.
@RunningInSuits Жыл бұрын
Justin, great video! I’m looking to get high end e-drums and debating between getting the 706 or wait for the dwe - what would be your recommendation? I really don’t care about the acoustic portion of the drums and only care about the electric portion. I would only be playing this in a studio to record music and videos. Thanks in advance!
@genisis53 Жыл бұрын
Great review! Thanks for all the work that went into this
@laptoples Жыл бұрын
Hey Justin ! Question: What do you think is more responsive, with more dynamics ? The Roland digital snare, hi-hat and ride, or the DW ones ? Basically...lol Did DW take away the title from the Roland digital 3 ? Like which has a better rim shot on the snare, etc and more positional sensing on the hi hat and ride ? Can you get all the intricacies with metal hi hats as you can on the Roland digital 14 hi-hats ? And it looks like the DW snare has a metal rim ? Does the rim trigger on the DW's ? I guess I'm wondering that on the entire drum set too being that it looks like there's metal rims all around. I'm in the middle of Pennsylvania, so there's not many music stores with edrums to try out. I never played a metal e-cymbal so I don't know how they react to each hit... I was super psyched to see that you were doing this video ! Great review as always !!!!! Thanks ! Have a great day !!! 😁👍
@jonno50911 ай бұрын
It would be kind of nice if you had a DB meter and compared rubber drums/cymbals to this just to get a gauge of the noise difference. but I really appreciate you tapping the cymbal so I could hear it.
@dylanmccormickmoran3528 Жыл бұрын
Really cool kit. I have two concerns. 1. It's wireless so what happens if you lose connection suddenly. 2. The price is almost too high but I suppose it's new tech so will come down in price eventually.
@65Drums Жыл бұрын
Valid. But the way I look at it, someone had to do it, take the first step and figure it all out. And a company finally did. Later cheaper stuff will show up
@bucknaked31 Жыл бұрын
I’ve used the Versatrigger setup that this is based on and if you put the receiver in direct line of sight, it never loses connection.
@JMRSplatt Жыл бұрын
Maybe we're approaching a time where FOH will have access to the drum software.
@TheAnalogRebellion Жыл бұрын
Getting a whole acoustic DW drum set attached to a high end electronic drum set is pretty nice. But the price definitely reflects that.
@davidgirtzOnAirMedia Жыл бұрын
What a kit! Wish I could afford it…someday!!
@WillBeavis Жыл бұрын
Superb review! Very honest & informative. Thanks Justin 👍
@brandoncrimmins6296 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely awesome technology! But with prices starting at $9,000 as well as being just another foreign company now… I’m just going for a nice custom kit with shells from Keller or Nordic. Probably Nordic over Keller at this point because their facility is only a few hours from my house so I can easily go pick them up and not have to pay shipping or worry about any damage during shipping…
@tcellen21369 ай бұрын
SounDWorks is available right now by the way and works with any V-Drums kit too.
@EverythingWithEric Жыл бұрын
I’d be interested in buying the triggers, hardware/software to upgrade my Design series
@vanessaadams3500 Жыл бұрын
On my wish list !!!😎
@Sundaydrumday Жыл бұрын
This kit is making me feel like it is just a way for DW to sell collectors drum shells. I am baffled at it not having a much better audio interface with options to route out to front of house. I guess the thinking here is if you wanna play live you have to put real heads on the kit, which is not a bad thing idk. Mixed emotions about it at this moment lol.
@IRLguy777 Жыл бұрын
How does the triggering stack up against the Roland TD50 digital snare, hihat, and ride? I would surely hope it's using the same or better triggering technology.
@ericstearns170 Жыл бұрын
So now we know why Roland bought DW... they were scared of the innovation. When DW was partnered with Gewa (for 10 seconds) everyone was talking about yeah DW name, blah, blah, crappy e-kit. And then DW pulled their name from the project and Gewa self branded. I think it's clear DW had a vision, had an idea and had the skills. We just didn't know it yet.
@youngguns996 Жыл бұрын
Great Review Justin! I'd love to buy one, but I'll wait until they sort out all the bugs.
@MrTdg2112 Жыл бұрын
Love to get more look into the software module and the sounds it comes with. But I'm impressed with what they did here with the wireless. I could see others getting some competition out there in a few years, and that would be nice.
@jfsantamaria Жыл бұрын
Great video, Justin! Besides the unpleasant sound when you hit it, what are your thoughts on the hihat? Is it better than a vh14d? Thanks!
@PocketDrummer Жыл бұрын
The gap between those toms is really triggering me...
@65Drums Жыл бұрын
they do have triggers in them
@JoelJ777 Жыл бұрын
Comfort over optic.
@PocketDrummer Жыл бұрын
@@65Drums I see what you did there :P
@Beefnhammer Жыл бұрын
I've seen way worse 🤣
@Ripperx121 Жыл бұрын
I am interested in this kit. But with all the fails in the e-drum market I would hate to buy this and have it discontinued a few years later. I know it is DW but we saw this with other companies. Pearl is a company that comes to mind. Also what does this do to Vdrums? I am not being negative at all I really hope this tech takes off thru DW and Roland.