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@paladro
@paladro 13 сағат бұрын
that 'bird strike' looks alot like scrapnel damage.
@AshMundo
@AshMundo 9 сағат бұрын
From the engines. The parts will be destroyed and will be spitting out debris from the back of the engine, especially when going hundreds of miles per hour.
@feiryfella
@feiryfella 9 сағат бұрын
It IS shrapnel damage, that's why!
@bloodlove93
@bloodlove93 8 сағат бұрын
scrapnel? lmfao...bro mixed up scrap and shrapnel.
@Slartyfartblarst
@Slartyfartblarst 8 сағат бұрын
@@AshMundo Nothing to do with the engines. The explosion occurred close to the vertical stabiliser. This was an an anti-aircraft missile. It's clear that the holes in the aircraft skin were travelling much faster than the aircraft, and radiated from a point outside, but very close to the aircraft. If these holes had been caused by debris from the engines then the pattern of damage would reflect this.
@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304
@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304 7 сағат бұрын
Russia denied shooting down MH17. So if the same happened here, they'll deny that too.
@PlaAwa
@PlaAwa 14 сағат бұрын
tiny metal birds
@murkhuddindalal
@murkhuddindalal 6 сағат бұрын
Should DW be focusing on german economy first?
@PlaAwa
@PlaAwa 5 сағат бұрын
@@murkhuddindalal if they wanted to fall into russia's trap and plans. russia wants all of the west to focus inward and look away
@TheTruthHz
@TheTruthHz 4 сағат бұрын
​@@murkhuddindalalwhy? It's a news agency not an economic agency.
@TheTruthHz
@TheTruthHz 4 сағат бұрын
Yeah, launched from ru AA system.
@Life_Owners
@Life_Owners 3 сағат бұрын
@@murkhuddindalal yeah, they have like tons of people with different tasks, really dont understand your question
@exploreraa983
@exploreraa983 12 сағат бұрын
Those pesky birds.... flying at 33,000ft...... hitting planes with their tungsten beaks! smh
@DR3ADER1
@DR3ADER1 3 сағат бұрын
Yeah, birds can fly at 20,000 feet and the plane was NOT at 33,000 at the time of diversion.
@claudettes9697
@claudettes9697 14 сағат бұрын
It has holes in it, sir. We see holes.
@Samayil_2024
@Samayil_2024 14 сағат бұрын
It's aluminium travelling at 250mph, what do you expect. Anything will cause those ...
@RakoVideos
@RakoVideos 14 сағат бұрын
@@Samayil_2024 the tail section is intact, but somehow, circular shrapnel with entrance and exit hole points perpendicular to the movement directions, is not "anything"
@zeni104
@zeni104 14 сағат бұрын
​@@Samayil_2024There are videos showing small holes that look clean. Like another comment said, the tail section is intact and the only damage is those holes in the control surfaces.
@rockbutcher
@rockbutcher 13 сағат бұрын
@@Samayil_2024 "Anything" as long as each piece is a uniform rectangular shape. Look at the holes.
@Samayil_2024
@Samayil_2024 13 сағат бұрын
@rockbutcher answered....
@yclept9
@yclept9 14 сағат бұрын
Plane was hit by shrapnel from missle which destroyed the hydraulic systems, resulting in the only control of the plane being differential thrust between the two engines. Okay for straight flight but virtually impossible to land successfully with it.
@dasmitch161
@dasmitch161 14 сағат бұрын
It’s obvious! Look at the holes from the shrapnel in the tail. Birds!?!
@EphemeraImaging
@EphemeraImaging 14 сағат бұрын
Russia will never admit to that.
@johncheresna
@johncheresna 14 сағат бұрын
The shrapnel damage is indisputable! Why the cover up???
@fibhufky
@fibhufky 14 сағат бұрын
​@@EphemeraImagingRussians are not the ones who are investigating.
@dasmitch161
@dasmitch161 14 сағат бұрын
@@EphemeraImaging what’s the odds of them saying it was a Ukrainian drone?
@JDSFLA
@JDSFLA 14 сағат бұрын
I don't understand why you are not showing the close-up video of the rear of the plane (which I have seen elsewhere) that clearly shows shrapnel damage that is consistent with what happens when a plane is struck by a surface-to-air missile. Russia's bird strike statement is just a cover up - just like the Malaysian plane shoot-down over Ukraine in 2014. I am very disappointed with how you have covered this disaster.
@pretzel_cat
@pretzel_cat 13 сағат бұрын
Both of the aviation guests (guy from US and the Irish guy) were “talking around” or even hinting at an air defense strike, but I don’t think the network will go there until we get reports of shrapnel being recovered from the tail section and the intact part of the cabin.
@abbottmd
@abbottmd 13 сағат бұрын
might make Russia look bad?
@lmbcvt
@lmbcvt 13 сағат бұрын
@JDSFLA Ya, they have the same footage of events with shrapnel damage edited out so as to perpetuate misinformation and speculation it's very shameful of them not to tell it like it is
@JDSFLA
@JDSFLA 13 сағат бұрын
Since my post, there is also video evidence of shrapnel damage on a life vest a passenger was wearing. Also the oxygen masks were deployed due to depressurization of the plane from the shrapnel holes. None of this is possible with a bird strike.
@Concern_Citizen
@Concern_Citizen 12 сағат бұрын
What's crazy is he clearly stated "Bird Strike" Without evidence. There's not one bit of evidence that shows bird strike, yet he comfortable saying that. He then stated he can't say Missile strike because he has no evidence. Smh.
@dasmitch161
@dasmitch161 14 сағат бұрын
Birds!! Are you crazy!? The signs of a missile strike around the tail are plainly obvious!
@joebarrett9830
@joebarrett9830 13 сағат бұрын
Shrapnel holes all over the tail area from being shot down. Others stated it severed the lines for the controls. The pilots only had engines for control at landing/crashing. Longer video shows it plummeting down and they were able to recover it and gain altitude again. Lost control in turn where they were trying to land and ended up crashing.
@johnbucher2077
@johnbucher2077 13 сағат бұрын
@@joebarrett9830 probably punctured parts of the hydraulic system eventually causing total loss of fluid. This model has no manual/mechanical reversion. Loose hydraulics and the show is over.
@simonbrown7455
@simonbrown7455 13 сағат бұрын
The "reports" said birds. Not the news reporters. Don't hate the reporter's hate whoever first said it was a bird strike. Which is most likely someone in bed with Russia.
@thejollygreendragon8394
@thejollygreendragon8394 12 сағат бұрын
Haven't ya heard, the birds are not really birds, but metal drones made to look like birds Ya need to keep up 😊
@exploreraa983
@exploreraa983 12 сағат бұрын
In Russia, bird have tungsten beaks.
13 сағат бұрын
The plane hit a flock of shrapnel, ffs
@TheSateef
@TheSateef 11 сағат бұрын
flying sideways
9 сағат бұрын
@@TheSateef The plane was flying sideways?
@Korbkorn
@Korbkorn 6 сағат бұрын
POOR Birds getting a bad rap!
@TheTruthHz
@TheTruthHz 4 сағат бұрын
No, the missle was flying tangentially to it.
@DR3ADER1
@DR3ADER1 3 сағат бұрын
Nope, no blast residue. This was both the result of pilot error coupled with engine problems. Remember, the flight was diverted due to weather. For an explosive device to cause this damage, it has to leave blast residue, which is common for bombings. There is no evidence of explosive remnants on the crash site or the surrounding terrain.
@daleevans45
@daleevans45 13 сағат бұрын
This is somewhat old news. Current idea is that the plane was hit by shapnel from antiaircraft fire. Numerous small holes on side of fusilage.
@ysamuelarai
@ysamuelarai 14 сағат бұрын
Why isn't anyone mentioning the fact that it was shot down by a Russian Pantsir-S1 air defense missile-gun system?
@urkiddingme6254
@urkiddingme6254 14 сағат бұрын
They did. They didn't mention a specific technology, but they did mention it could have been Russian anti-aircraft defense.
@fibhufky
@fibhufky 14 сағат бұрын
@ysamuelarai Because their lawyers won't allow them to say something that, while obvious, has not been officially confirmed.
@DET-o4j
@DET-o4j 13 сағат бұрын
Why are you copying and pasting this comment on all videos? Keep trying Pentabot, we know your Ukrainian drone shot it down.
@not_your_business666
@not_your_business666 12 сағат бұрын
@@DET-o4j Since when kamikaze drones are capable of flying ant extreme high altitudes of commercial airplanes?
@fabianabongo6284
@fabianabongo6284 9 сағат бұрын
It crushed in Kazakhstan. Pantsir is a short-range air defence system.
@Tanusha000
@Tanusha000 14 сағат бұрын
Guys! Check facts better please. It was shot
@wolfswinkel8906
@wolfswinkel8906 8 сағат бұрын
you should open your own media company. Even the passengers posted videos and none said this.
@SPCabbage
@SPCabbage Сағат бұрын
​@wolfswinkel8906 you are wrong here. There was a passenger who got a shrapnel stuck in her leg during flight. Also, they heard 2 explosions. Another passenger mentioned that as soon as that explosion accured, some metal things got through and wounded that woman as I mentioned.
@ericschmidt1987
@ericschmidt1987 Сағат бұрын
Those are sharpnel birds according to DW
@SPCabbage
@SPCabbage 49 минут бұрын
@ericschmidt1987 What do you mean by DW? I didn't get it. Also, the engines were NOT in that bad shape. Because, thanks to pilots professionalism, they managed to fly over the sea.
@jrmagallanes4219
@jrmagallanes4219 12 сағат бұрын
Anti-aircraft birds?
@DR3ADER1
@DR3ADER1 3 сағат бұрын
Nope, Birds can fly at heights over 20,000 feet as the footage shows, the plane was flying at a far lower altitude as it was diverted due to weather and apparent engine troubles.
@jrmagallanes4219
@jrmagallanes4219 2 сағат бұрын
@@DR3ADER1 a very high flying woodpecker then since they made a LOT of holes in the tail section
@David-cc8vk
@David-cc8vk 14 сағат бұрын
THAT PLANE WAS SHOT DOWN ...!
@sforza209
@sforza209 14 сағат бұрын
Damn, KZbin will not let me comment anything!!
@fibhufky
@fibhufky 14 сағат бұрын
And sent across the water in hopes that it would crash into the sea, making investigation impossible.
@johncheresna
@johncheresna 14 сағат бұрын
The shrapnel damage is indisputable! Why the cover up???
@fibhufky
@fibhufky 13 сағат бұрын
@johncheresna Of course, DW know this, but their liability insurance won't allow them to say anything that hasn't been officially confirmed.
@streetpunkstar
@streetpunkstar 13 сағат бұрын
It was not a plane accident, it was a "Special Military Plane Accident". Get your facts straight DW! 🤣
@JimmieBrown-sg8fq
@JimmieBrown-sg8fq 10 сағат бұрын
Not a plane crash was a plane that was shot down.
@eddavis1832
@eddavis1832 13 сағат бұрын
Photos of the rudder and stabilizer clearly show shrapnel holes resulting from anti-aircraft rocket with a proximity fuse. No way this was from a bird strike!
@senior_java
@senior_java 6 сағат бұрын
Omg, all news reporters talks about birds, and do not show shrapnel holes
@DR3ADER1
@DR3ADER1 3 сағат бұрын
Those aren't shrapnel holes, but the innards of the engine. No evidence of explosive residue and the surviving passengers' accounts do not describe any evidence of any missiles present.
@senior_java
@senior_java 2 сағат бұрын
@@DR3ADER1 Passanger bleeding leg, and hole in the water jacket, and damage inside cabin is a joke for you?
@SparkySven
@SparkySven 14 сағат бұрын
Was shot down by Russia, damage is easy to see with puncture from outside to inside , plane lost hydraulic and landing gear was put down manually but some control was lost in tail and left wing
@wolfswinkel8906
@wolfswinkel8906 11 сағат бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 Try harder
@danteunknown2108
@danteunknown2108 11 сағат бұрын
Yes shot down, but landing gear did deploy
@DMZDMX1
@DMZDMX1 10 сағат бұрын
There are even shrapnel holes in the onboard life jackets. Corrupt DW paeons doing pootin's work for him.
@Juttutin
@Juttutin 9 сағат бұрын
The shrapnel holes are bent in on one side of the plane and bent out on the other side. There's no ambiguity here.
@cyberfunk3793
@cyberfunk3793 6 сағат бұрын
@@wolfswinkel8906 You aren't even trying it seems.
@rogerboretskyjr5651
@rogerboretskyjr5651 10 сағат бұрын
There are holes in the bird strike story. Many of them.
@johncheresna
@johncheresna 14 сағат бұрын
It was shot down!!!
@enedifanovaha7713
@enedifanovaha7713 14 сағат бұрын
Russia again shooting airplane
@edgarasj8039
@edgarasj8039 5 сағат бұрын
And no one will do anything about that
@motoroladefy2740
@motoroladefy2740 13 сағат бұрын
It is striking that the people at DW are playing dumb about the holes that are visible even in the images they show.
@simonbrown7455
@simonbrown7455 13 сағат бұрын
I just watched the whole report, DW doesn't say anything about it. The people they are interviewing and information they have gathered are giving wrong information. Even the first expert is sceptical about it being a bird strike and instantly suggests it could have been mistaken for a drone. Don't hate DW for this, they are delivering you an array of information for YOU to make up your mind.
@jordillach3222
@jordillach3222 12 сағат бұрын
Not only the holes talk about a missile attack. In the videos before the aircraft hit the ground, a panel appears open near the horizontal stabilizer, the area where the shrapnel holes are visible.
@sollte1239
@sollte1239 6 сағат бұрын
Did you Listen to min 5:20
@DR3ADER1
@DR3ADER1 3 сағат бұрын
Nope, because that's caused by the engine and the crash itself. There is no evidence of explosive residue from the tail section either.
@FrantaPo-bc5mu
@FrantaPo-bc5mu 6 сағат бұрын
This was probably the last flight of Azerbaijani Airlines to Ruzzia in a long time.
@AuralioCabal-nl8gi
@AuralioCabal-nl8gi 13 сағат бұрын
Does DW now coverup for Putin and Russian AD?
@sollte1239
@sollte1239 6 сағат бұрын
Did you Listen to min 5:20
@denkenhilft1607
@denkenhilft1607 5 сағат бұрын
@@sollte1239Obvs not. That Kazakhstan l1es for Putin shows where their allience lies.
@FamilyBrown88
@FamilyBrown88 13 сағат бұрын
Meanwhile we all know that it was shot down.
@luckyme4136
@luckyme4136 10 сағат бұрын
Russia mistook the E190 for a Ukrainian drone and brought it down with either artillery or surface to air missile.
@DMZDMX1
@DMZDMX1 9 сағат бұрын
ruzzia hates Azerbaijan. It is mutual. Jammed between ruzzia and Iran, Azerbaijan is protected by Turkiye. pootin hates that.
@leehawk7068
@leehawk7068 31 минут бұрын
Could well be one of putlers many enemies someone Putin wants to bump off after all Putin would not hesitate to blow a commercial aircraft out oF the sky if it meant silencing someone after all Putin ks a terrorist
@sazzbot8874
@sazzbot8874 5 сағат бұрын
Civilians doing better journalism than DW News
@conormacnessa7723
@conormacnessa7723 13 сағат бұрын
It was shot down. Go check your lies. We're not fooled.
@DR3ADER1
@DR3ADER1 3 сағат бұрын
False again, it was an engine failure, there's NO BLAST RESIDUE! MISSILES LEAVE EXPLOSIVE SOOT, AND SO DOES EXPLOSIVE SHRAPNEL! Engine fragments do NOT leave scorch marks.
@JasonBlack66
@JasonBlack66 10 сағат бұрын
Tiny little Tungsten Hummingbirds flying at high altitude if you are going to call it a Bird Strike LOL. Omg, thats funny considering the pictures you are showing us pretty clearly show what it is. you dont need to even be an aviation or military enthusiast to see that. Im an Aviation Enthusiast and PPL Holder, but you dont need to be. Any Dump mouth piece Journalist should be able to see that is not caused by birds or parts of the plane breaking off. It's a very obvious and clear pattern of damage.
@netherwake1
@netherwake1 11 сағат бұрын
Russia shot down another airliner.
@DR3ADER1
@DR3ADER1 3 сағат бұрын
False again, Russia didn't shoot any planes down here. This is engine failure and pilot error mixed into one crash. Stop your conspiratorial nonsense.
@geerliglecluse5297
@geerliglecluse5297 11 сағат бұрын
This plane was shot down, likely in the vicinity of Grozny, not an accident.
@grzegorzr-z4h
@grzegorzr-z4h 5 сағат бұрын
The program lasts 15 minutes and you don't see photos with holes after being shot down even for a second. Scandal.
@TheChiefEng
@TheChiefEng 12 сағат бұрын
Why do all these media continue to talk about birds? Look at the tail section you media people. What kind of birds make those kind of holes? Those kind of holes are made by fragments from a ground to air missile. If following the path of the airplane, it's very clear the pilots had no control over the control surfaces on the wings and the tail. When the airplane banks just before the crash, there is no aileron input visible on either wing which clearly indicates the pilots had no control over the airplane which again means the systems for control of the control surfaces on wings and tail had been lost. That indicates loss of hydraulic systems and/or electrical actuators. This airplane was subjected to fragment debris from a ground to air missile and we all know who like to shoot those things after airplanes. The tracking of the airplane from flightradar24 seems to indicate that the pilots have tried to control the airplane with the engines alone. Look to Russia for the people responsible.
@BradGryphonn
@BradGryphonn 7 сағат бұрын
Not a bird strike. It was a proximity surface to air missile. Get your story straight before saying bird strike. External damage is clearly a proximity shrapnel missile strike.
@josephnulley6808
@josephnulley6808 10 сағат бұрын
Get real ....Russian Air Defense took it down ..... Full of shrapnel damage
@daveduncan798
@daveduncan798 12 сағат бұрын
I may not be watching DW much longer.
@janisaksson5966
@janisaksson5966 10 сағат бұрын
All Western media ignore the fact that this plane was taken down by a missile. Why?
@DMZDMX1
@DMZDMX1 9 сағат бұрын
Not all.. Just the corrupt ones.
@garethcroson8851
@garethcroson8851 12 сағат бұрын
How do these "analysts" keep a straight face? They know damned well what happened.
@Juttutin
@Juttutin 9 сағат бұрын
Every aviation forum is certain it was an anti-aircraft fragmentation / shrapnel missile. Based on the holes being bent in on one side and bent out on the other side, it's already obvious which side the missile was on when it detonated.
@peacebewithyou4838
@peacebewithyou4838 14 сағат бұрын
These guys are clueless. pilot blog by Denys Davydov did a good review of the situation.
@johncheresna
@johncheresna 13 сағат бұрын
Exactly!
@abbottmd
@abbottmd 13 сағат бұрын
agree. his report was fantastic. looks like this one is more Russia-friendly
@jordillach3222
@jordillach3222 12 сағат бұрын
So did Juan Brown of Blancolirio channel, a captain with American Airlines.
@robertdevos5478
@robertdevos5478 10 сағат бұрын
Denys Davydov is an Ukraine Propagandist !
@kv4648
@kv4648 6 сағат бұрын
Are you guys bots?
@bennybenitez2461
@bennybenitez2461 11 сағат бұрын
Hey DW it was not Birds. Birds don’t leave peppered puncture holes. Intel shows a Russian Pantsir S-1 missile was fired at it thinking it was a Ukrainian R-22 Foxbat Drone.
@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304
@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304 7 сағат бұрын
Kremlin lied about MH17 too. So anyone who takes any Russian investigation of this seriously must be nutz.
@janinsweden8559
@janinsweden8559 10 сағат бұрын
PASSENGER videos taken while airborne shows damages on the left wing, and holes in life vests from objects penetrating the fuselage IN FLIGHT. You can also see that the small "door" in front of the tail wing is OPEN while the plane is in the air...
@k53847
@k53847 12 сағат бұрын
It hit a flock of Pantsirs.
@brookyogini6625
@brookyogini6625 12 сағат бұрын
Hit by shrapnel from missile which destroyed the hydraulic systems
@pobybuf
@pobybuf 12 сағат бұрын
The plane was definitely shot down. You could see holes in the luggage bins from a passenger as they were still flying. There was also damage to the hydraulic pylons for the Flaperons. 😊
@shoja2009
@shoja2009 12 сағат бұрын
Poor journalism from DW
@denkenhilft1607
@denkenhilft1607 5 сағат бұрын
Why? They interviewed the US expert who raised his doubts to the Kzakh-russian narrative.
@johnhunt1725
@johnhunt1725 Сағат бұрын
Why has the media STOPPED showing images of the right side of the tail and rear fuselage that CLEARLY shows shrapnel damage?
@jaymacpherson8167
@jaymacpherson8167 12 сағат бұрын
The plane tail has damage synonymous with shrapnel.
@05DoitforBrock
@05DoitforBrock 13 сағат бұрын
What we know is that Russia MH17’ed that plane , fact
@talhahabdullah8980
@talhahabdullah8980 12 сағат бұрын
No. They were Ukrainian rebels. Meaning the Ukraine shot the plane down. I'm from Malaysia btw
@wynn3077
@wynn3077 10 сағат бұрын
@@talhahabdullah8980Yes they were spotted fleeing back into Russia in a mobile missile launcher.
@crazzylongears8835
@crazzylongears8835 11 сағат бұрын
In 2010 Plane of the president of Poland hit the armored birch tree in Russia,impact cut the wing of the plane.All 96 passengers lost.
@PlaAwa
@PlaAwa 14 сағат бұрын
you can hear the rage in bakhyt's voice. she knows. she hates lying.
@kv4648
@kv4648 6 сағат бұрын
?
@Нейросеть-ИИ
@Нейросеть-ИИ 13 сағат бұрын
Watch other videos = plane in holes = was it shot down by Russian air defense?
@petergrundy8081
@petergrundy8081 12 сағат бұрын
Russia is out of control
@WazamShaw
@WazamShaw 13 сағат бұрын
We need victims testimony.Why aren't we hearing from the victims that survived a crash????
@equarg
@equarg 12 сағат бұрын
They just survived a horrific plane crash and saw people die all around them. They are either critically injured or in shock. They need a few days at a minimum to process WTH just happened to them. Not to mention survivors guilt. Plus investigators get to talk to them first.
@l.d.t.6327
@l.d.t.6327 11 сағат бұрын
@@equargnope. We need to hear them as soon as possible, before their memories are brainwashed by Russian government / be forced to tell a cover story.
@bendyrland7213
@bendyrland7213 10 сағат бұрын
They will be heard from soon I assume.
@sierra5360
@sierra5360 5 сағат бұрын
A flock of birds would never cause shrapnel entry holes at those sort of angles in the back of the plane…. Maybe in the front they would cause large holes. Not a shot gun spatter effect in the back of
@globalwanderer360
@globalwanderer360 4 сағат бұрын
You should not recklessly give out such obvious misinformation. Evidence of an anti aircraft missile is clear. Thank god some passengers and part of the fuselage survived to tell the truth.
@mirror5076
@mirror5076 13 сағат бұрын
Denys Davydov gave a detailed picture of the situation.
@robertdevos5478
@robertdevos5478 10 сағат бұрын
Denys Davydov is a Ukrain Propagandist !
@Columbi007
@Columbi007 7 сағат бұрын
look at the stabilizers, this plane was shot down by an air defence missile.
@wynn3077
@wynn3077 10 сағат бұрын
And the footage of a missile launcher fleeing across the border back into Russia after shooting down the Malaysian aircraft and yet they still denied it.
@NothernNate
@NothernNate 12 сағат бұрын
was the bird a s-300? 🤔
@gokhanylmaz8514
@gokhanylmaz8514 11 сағат бұрын
if it was an s300 they would collect aircraft parts within a radius of 300 km
@teresabenson3385
@teresabenson3385 10 сағат бұрын
Pantsir, maybe.
@trashtrashisfree
@trashtrashisfree 10 сағат бұрын
Russian missile strike. Not the first time either.
@markmd9
@markmd9 6 сағат бұрын
All saw the marks from shrapnels but these experts
@johnbucher2077
@johnbucher2077 13 сағат бұрын
This has to be a new low for DW News. Shrapnel holes all over the empennage yet you continue to babble about birds. Are you blind?
@abbottmd
@abbottmd 13 сағат бұрын
they need to wait for the updated press release from Russian Ministry of Truth before they can say anything otherwise
@simonbrown7455
@simonbrown7455 13 сағат бұрын
Did you even watch the report ? Like seriously did you listen to anything they said ? It's not even DW speaking, it's the experts . DW didn't even give an opinion on it. It was clearly speculated and suggested by everyone in this report it could have been shot down / mistaken for a drone/ other people such as air traffic control are the ones hiding things. Stop being one of those people who always blame the news and not the people possibly feeding the news incorrect information.
@CV6300b
@CV6300b 12 сағат бұрын
Not until there is forensic evident.
@DMZDMX1
@DMZDMX1 10 сағат бұрын
Is it "new" for them now? Their first move is always to their RT feed.
@denkenhilft1607
@denkenhilft1607 5 сағат бұрын
Are you not able to listen to the entire report?
@blackterminal
@blackterminal 10 сағат бұрын
Main stream media is too slow. This plane was shot at.
@ericsarnoski6278
@ericsarnoski6278 10 сағат бұрын
Your all wrong .Shrapnel damage . I have seen images of shrapnel damage at the rear horizontal stabilizer ( aka Tail section. ) Radar Altimeter history shows a huge jump in altitude fluctuations just as it desends . the front section broke off because it crashed nose first. So you there you have it. I was shot down while desending , airburst shrapnel anti aircraft missle.
@Jon-z7e
@Jon-z7e 10 сағат бұрын
How any human being walked out of that is nothing but miracle
@Mich8DB
@Mich8DB 5 сағат бұрын
someone attacked that plane when it was in the air the engine looks fine looks like the pilot didn't have control over the aircraft due the dmg of the atack even the flaps and ailerons not working
@DMulabiTalejan
@DMulabiTalejan 5 сағат бұрын
Huh, "bird strikes" with all those shrapnel holes!!!!
@knightofthesun1738
@knightofthesun1738 7 сағат бұрын
If it were a bird strike in one engine, it would still land well. If it were a bird strike on both engines, it immediately crashed-but it flies a long distance before it crashes. And if someone insists that it was a bird strike, it is a lie.
@pornets
@pornets 4 сағат бұрын
The pilot is god tier... he still can manage to handle the emergency landing etc etc
@mrglasecki
@mrglasecki 7 сағат бұрын
* Why did Russia target 🎯 another civilian aircraft over chechnya 🤔 😏 ** unmistakable undeniable SAM damage to the airframe
@williambunting803
@williambunting803 8 сағат бұрын
What??? The plane was shot down by a Russian Buk or similar. You can see the shrapnel holes in the tail clearly in your first scene. The plane crashed due to lack of rudder and tail fin control. This has been confirmed by experienced pilots observing the footage.
@Fomites
@Fomites 10 сағат бұрын
Proximity activated ballistics. It was shot down. This is horrendous. Who did this??
@denkenhilft1607
@denkenhilft1607 5 сағат бұрын
Chechnya
@Keyboard_Thoughts
@Keyboard_Thoughts 2 сағат бұрын
That's the second time russia shot down a civilian plane?
@turningpoint4238
@turningpoint4238 10 сағат бұрын
I flew over Russia last year, made me a little nervous and now it would make me very worried. Saw a picture on another YT channel which looked to me like shrapnel holes with this untrained eye.
@Keralaforum
@Keralaforum 2 сағат бұрын
Yes: Why did it go East? The plane was traveling from the Azerbaijani capital Baku to Grozny in the southern Russian republic of Chechnya before it made an emergency landing approximately 3 kilometers (1.8 miles) from Aktau, Kazakhstan, the carrier said on Wednesday. But why did the plane had crossed the Caspian Sea, when Baku and Grozny are to its west and Aktau is to its east. It should never have been anywhere near Kazakhsthan!
@Gscalenut
@Gscalenut 6 сағат бұрын
The elephant in the room is what the Russians are not saying. Recall the denials with the Malaysian B777 shootdown in 2014 over Ukraine.
@denkenhilft1607
@denkenhilft1607 5 сағат бұрын
B777 was intentional, this now was an accident I believe.
@ChristurnbullllubnrutsirhC
@ChristurnbullllubnrutsirhC 11 сағат бұрын
Tungsten bumble bees
@georgeklauss1696
@georgeklauss1696 3 сағат бұрын
You’re not showing the side of the plane with holes in it. You are hiding the truth
@JasonBlack66
@JasonBlack66 11 сағат бұрын
you guys are not very smart. it does not take a rocket scientist to see (In your own images) parts of the body peppered with little holes made by hundreds of small solid objects, most likely an Anti-Air Missile. This plane was all but certainly shot down. The identifying marks are almost perfectly unique to being shot by an AA Missile. I know you dont want to speculate but when its smack bang in your face like that it's kind of hard to deny. you watch, Aviation and military experts and enthusiasts alike will tell you those holes can not be much else. even parts of the plane breaking off won't leave such perfect spherical holes peppered like a shotgun blast into a sheet of metal (only the holes are a bit larger) The tail seems to have copped it the worst. I am a Private Pilot and lifelong aviation enthusiast. im calling accidental shootdown by an AA System. Just strange it was shot down where it was. Russia probably thought it was a NATO Spy plane or possibly the shenanigans between Azbj and Arm had something to do with it.
@DMZDMX1
@DMZDMX1 10 сағат бұрын
But they did "speculate". Well, they just reported the first lie sent to them by their ruzzian overlords.
@gromajor
@gromajor 4 сағат бұрын
come on, guys. why don't you question the holes on the airplane's tail?
@duncanstewart6381
@duncanstewart6381 12 сағат бұрын
Several sources online have video of the damage from a missile to this airliner flying over Azerbaiijan republic
@DeannaSt
@DeannaSt 7 сағат бұрын
Incompetent Russian army… sorry about the loss of life, our hearts go to the families of the victims, especially the pilots who managed to save half their passengers… but could not survive themselves 😢
@JasonBlack66
@JasonBlack66 10 сағат бұрын
OMG, it's an absolute miracle that [people survived. they will be able to tell what happened (I hope). Hopefully, some of the surviving passengers are knowledgeable people not just dense uneducated holidaymakers.
@ThePinkus
@ThePinkus 9 сағат бұрын
The holes in the back of the aircraft could be explained by proximity fused birds loaded with some fragmentation explosive charge, warhead someone might call it, or specialoperationhead depending on localization settings.
@Steelninja77
@Steelninja77 7 сағат бұрын
Yeah because a flock of Birds would cause shrapnel to take the rear control surfaces and a total loss of pitch control. Russia shot it down. Someone filmed the pantsir air defense boost unit stuck in the ground and it was in the airspace during a Ukrainian drone attack. Not Ukraines fault. Russia should have closed the airspace if they were going to be shooting down air targets.
@AnchorsAweighNarooma
@AnchorsAweighNarooma 9 сағат бұрын
Amazing that the Russians said it was bird strikes, sounds like another Russian plane downing by ground fire.
@roymoorman5990
@roymoorman5990 Сағат бұрын
The word "Bird" in Russian wouldn't happen to be "Buk" would it ?
@Gscalenut
@Gscalenut 6 сағат бұрын
No evidence of bird debris. Aircraft suffered total hydraulic loss, requiring crew to use the throttles to continue to manouevre the aircraft. A birdstrike would have impacted the engines causing loss of power which obviously was not the case.
@Nebulorum
@Nebulorum 4 сағат бұрын
20 mm or 40mm Sparrows?
@brian472
@brian472 4 сағат бұрын
There are photos showing the plane had holes clearly made by shrapnel
@bendyrland7213
@bendyrland7213 11 сағат бұрын
Birds? I hope a thorough international investigation is performed to get to the bottom of this.
@wjlane1358
@wjlane1358 6 сағат бұрын
Birds??? Is this false information??? Again!!!
@filiperiksson9239
@filiperiksson9239 3 сағат бұрын
why did all the birds hit the tail end`? and why did they make holes in the plane
@tracyknowles4680
@tracyknowles4680 9 сағат бұрын
If you consider a missle a bird then yes it was a bird strike. But looks like shrapnel in the tail to me.
@jimgraham6722
@jimgraham6722 5 сағат бұрын
Pantsir hit. Probably ship mounted maritime version.
@thelifeofweidi
@thelifeofweidi 8 сағат бұрын
Got shot down from Russia as you can see at the tail unit.
@MichaelSpanhake
@MichaelSpanhake 11 сағат бұрын
And who reviews the ORANGE BOXES FIRST.
@dominicestebanrice7460
@dominicestebanrice7460 13 сағат бұрын
It's been hours now since the SAM missile attack became common knowledge and you're still publishing this BS about birds! SHAME on you.
@simonbrown7455
@simonbrown7455 13 сағат бұрын
You didn't listen to the report did you.
@Keyboard_Thoughts
@Keyboard_Thoughts 2 сағат бұрын
Ah yes! Birds, reactive radar guided anti air birds
@josephusmonzolin5251
@josephusmonzolin5251 10 сағат бұрын
Why are they blaming the birds ? humans did that. 😂
@Usedtobecool
@Usedtobecool 13 сағат бұрын
Not safe flying to Russia
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