EA put Dead Space franchise on ice after Remake sales fall short of expectations...

[@YongYea]

This is such a shame, it feels like Dead Space Remake did everything right and the franchsie still got shafted. If the remake ends up being a send off to the IP, at least it's a damn good one. PATREON: www.patreon.com/yongyea TWITTER: twitter.com/yongyea INSTAGRAM: instagram.com/yong_yea TIKTOK: www.tiktok.com/@yongyea TOP PATRONS [BIG BOSS] - Devon B - gergely oggolder - Jonathan Ball [BOSS] - Charlie Galvin - Gerardo Andrade - Marketing aag - Michael Redmond [LEGENDARY] - azalea - dirt

[@joeykill7553]

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[@missedmurphy]

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[@toastmangler2415]

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[@altcenter4944]

Just so you're aware, the idiot who spread this rumor has no idea what the hell he was even talking about

[@gatekeeper7211]

EA came out and said they never had a dead space 2 remake in development four days ago....

[@The_Primary_Axiom]

A live service game fails and loses millions of dollars they say let’s try again. A single player remake falls a little short of expectations. Well, let’s just shut down that entire franchise for good. EA is truly poison. Nothing is worse than giant corporations swallowing up talented developers, and ruining them. Some of the best remakes I played was FF 7, RE4 and dead space. EA is so shameful they should just sell the IP. Instead, they’re going to sit on it and let no one else have it.

[@Kryptic1046]

Just like they're doing with Alice which pisses me off. American McGee offered to buy back the IP from them and they said no. I despise EA.

[@The_Primary_Axiom]

@@Kryptic1046 Omg Alice! Lol. I forgot all about that game. That was so memorable. Imagine a faithful remake of that game. God, I hate companies like EA.

[@robchuk4136]

...Or, they could have put these resources into just making the new DS game in the first place! All this "we need to test it out first" marketing strategy is bs. Dead Space is a known IP, and they knew fans wanted a 4th. They were just being greedy, because they wanted to copy Capcom. Now all they did was waste money. No sympathy for EA, and no one to blame but themselves

[@Kryptic1046]

@@The_Primary_Axiom - Yep. It's just like you said. "We're not gonna do jack sh!t with (insert franchise name), but we're not gonna let anyone else do anything with it either." I'm so glad they lost the exclusive Star Wars license, at least.

[@CoOlKyUbI96]

@@robchuk4136I strongly believe that with a little more marketing, the remake could have done much better. Sure it’s not a Triple A franchise , but it’s also not some obscure IP. There are games, spinoffs, books, merchandise, and animated films all about Dead Space

[@greed-1914]

I still remember when EA thought Dead Space 3 would sell 5 million copies. Even without the problems it had, it was never going to hit that. EA thought other games at the time should also hit that. They've been making up arbitrary 'expectations' for over a decade.

[@ianhall6614]

Completely changing the direction of the franchise into exactly what it shouldn’t be and then expecting it to sell more than the first two games combined. Genius level IQ move by EA

[@zDToddy]

They tried to turn DS into CoD and expected the same sale figures because that is how it works

[@KaiserAfini]

"It was a commercial and critical success, we made some good money" "Not ALL the money ? Unacceptable, eliminate it, NOW !"

[@feluto7172]

this is corporate bullshit to a T they set unreasonable goals for projects that they dislike/dont benefit them personally. its an excuse to not pay bonuses or to develop someone's career. If you work in the corporate world you would understand just how petty and childish all of this is

[@ninochaosdrache3189]

And how do you know it was a commercial success? Do you work in accounting at EA?

[@Blodhelm]

Yet with so many other cash-grab failures, they keep at it.

[@bigbeefy111]

Dude, stop boot licking for a corp.​@@ninochaosdrache3189

[@sws212]

@@feluto7172 Excluding any existing assets, development costs for one game is just about as expensive as another regardless of genre. They can make a sequel or they can spend that money on a different IP, it's not really that hard to understand to understand. Dead Space is 100% for a niche audience and only exists because of fans begging for it. Pretty obvious it wasn't getting a sequel from the onset.

[@Joestar96]

The game literally *outsold* the original Deadspace! Ea is just a greedy ass company as always!

[@wordenroger6188]

It would have to outsell the original game, given how much more it costs to make a game than it used too.

[@NetherPrime]

@@wordenroger6188 the cost for a remake is a fraction of what it costs to make a new game. You have no clue what you're talking about, just rehashing what you've heard.

[@BlobberBlorp-lv8fp]

Lmao you don't know what your talking about if you think a game that came out in 2008 costs as much as a game made in 2023. There are hundreds of not thousands of more assets in the new game and all the original things had to be completely remade. This isn't just a small graphical update

[@CarvedStones]

Of course it would outsell the original game, Dead Space is less niche than it was when it first released.

[@SirGofres]

​@@NetherPrimeWow the projection. It is dangerous being so sure about something you don't fully understand. Do you understand inflation? Software fees? Do you think EA does not want exponential profit? Check your attitude we all love Dead Space here, but capitalism wants ever increasing money.

[@HuskySansVergogne]

WHAT ? Man EA don't deserve Dead Space, the Remake was so great

[@adamfrazer5150]

So so much that company doesn't deserve 👍

[@Buttz2Buttz]

Im not sure people caught the real bad news.....EA is making a Iron Man game.......what ever God you pray to, pray for mercy.

[@CyberSecurityCentre]

too bad no many people buy it

[@HuskySansVergogne]

I still can't believe it, to me Dead Space was back and I was expecting an announcement for Dead Space 2 Remake this year, with a new take on the multiplayer maybe.

[@sophieedel6324]

But no one bought it, so apparently..not so great.

[@chief664]

WTF is EA like going for the Guinness Book of World Records for how many times you can murder a franchise in a row

[@hustler666100]

if it dont sell then it dont sell. I doubt you even bought it

[@chief664]

You guys really think I’d waste my time commenting if I didn’t? I get it tho I bet a lot of people were holding out for DS2 remake. I however am one of the few who prefer the first one. The remake was so damn good and so well received critically I actually aloud myself to be excited for the future of Dead Space. I should have known better.

[@chief664]

@@Corey_Mckilling funny

[@hustler666100]

@@chief664 the remake was OK. some aspects were worse. Some aspects were better. Ultimately we dont know the budget or the target. A company isnt going to invest in something that doesn't profit and it isn't aleways corporate greed. Every business needs to turn a profit unless it receives funding

[@sunny2523]

@@hustler666100what’s with the negativity and acceptance? the game still sold well, just not outstanding (which was so unrealistic EA sucks yet again) and it’s a fantastic remake and game on its own right. coming from someone who did buy it btw

[@teddyholiday8038]

Dead Space 2 is so good. A remake would have been awesome. Shame

[@TheRedRaven_]

Ikr, it was an amazing sequel in a time where sequels were just mid. Very sad.

[@JusMeandMehSelf]

DS2 was the first horror game I bought with my own money as a kid, and was also the 1st time I manned up and put on headphones and played in the dark alone and it will forever be cemented as the scariest full game I've ever played. PT was the only game I've ever felt was scarier

[@kennypowers1945]

@@renmcmanuseh not really only good Japanese remake was re4 remake

[@MrIcomsic]

@@JusMeandMehSelfYo same here! As I kid I started dead space 2 with my headphones off lol. Such a good game!

[@CaptainTitforce]

​@@kennypowers1945He's talking about sequels, not remakes.

[@heroicdairy]

Considering a live service game could absolutely hemorrhage money in the millions and they'd look at it and say "Hey it'll work next time" it's beyond infuriating a game that objectively sells well is seen as a failure for not hitting some arbitrary number.

[@gamerinatrance3618]

EA certainly didn't do it for Anthem. In fact they made 3 single player games last year and all 3 failed financially.

[@thomasklausen998]

@@gamerinatrance3618 Who cares, so many good SP & Coop games are coming out. Buy them at 80-90% discount in 4 years time.

[@Dumbrarere]

By what metrics are you getting this? Granted yes, at least one or two out of those three suffered initial serious teething issues at launch (looking at Jedi: Survivor). But besides that, ever consider the fact EA either deliberately underreports sales to media outlets or artificially creates poor sales through other means (like their unreasonable, unrealistic and/or even downright fantastical sales goals) to continue to justify their "Live service games are the future!" bullshit? Like... I do not believe for a second, that the Dead Space remake was a failure. Jedi: Fallen Order proved to EA that a well made single player game without live service mechanics like pay to win and gambling would be more financially successful than a half-baked live service game. So was Star Wars Squadrons. It just feels to me that they are looking for any and every excuse to make those games a fluke.

[@totallynotabot12]

EA considers every game that doesn't make a billion dollars in sales a failure, you can never win with these guys, they can never be satisfied. Edit: Perhaps "Billion dollars" was an exaggeration on my part, but I think that it's still true that EA places too many unrealistic expectations on their single player games and then bury their franchises/studios when they don't get exactly what they want.

[@CZJames20]

I agree, though this is false info by Yong being reported here. EA confirmed this is not true.

[@Slitheringpeanut]

You can blame Activision for that perception.

[@anthonyf616]

​@@CZJames20What is true, is that Dead Space 2 remake wasn't in development in the first place

[@sophieedel6324]

Why are you exagerating. EA did not expect to make a billion $. The original also didn't sell that well, but this game sold particularly poorly considering the budget thrown at it. And while you think that isn't a problem, developers need to eat and the budget for this game was very large compared to its meager sales.

[@darkwolfe6286]

​​@@CZJames20Did you actually listen to the whole video. Also who can believe what you hear Corps report.

[@predetor911]

I went to buy Dead Space remake a few months ago and the store told me they had sold out! A game from year ago was still selling out and they’re saying that sales didn’t do well?!

[@gamerinatrance3618]

I imagine the amount of distributed physical copies is a lot less now than it was in the past.

[@johnhanzelyjr]

@@gamerinatrance3618 No...they probably kept the physical numbers low to try to force digital sales. All AAA publishers are doing this.

[@Jules279]

EA just hates good things for some reason. If it can't make the fat ass CEO what he wants then it won't work for them.

[@wolfe8035]

Dude the reason DSR didn't meet "expectations" was because EA couldn't monetize it like DS3 or Battlefield, or Star Wars.

[@clickbaitable6320]

They do. It’s called the price of the game. If it doesn’t do as well as they hope they didn’t put it at the price they should have. Aka executives being dumbasses as usual.

[@DeadPixel1105]

Ding ding ding! That is the correct answer, sir.

[@wolfe8035]

@@DeadPixel1105 Tbh if EA executives saw making a good game makes them an equal or greater amount of money, you would think they'd do away with the bullshit and make good games. Nah but what they would see is doubling their profit margins for doing both: Making a good game AND trying to nickel and dime you.

[@xxprototypexx5056]

Y'all are believing in a rumor, not a fact. An EA spokesperson already confirmed a few days ago on IGN that the remake isn't cancelled.

[@maniestranger4329]

Wtf the game is literally their most selled game in the past five years what are they on about?

[@judgedread9724]

... What fuckin' expectations did they have?!

[@Jacksontruman92]

Probably it making 10 trillion dollars XD

[@alejandrogarcia7938]

Is it profits if is not in the billions??

[@nestormelendez9005]

That every single person have a copy

[@MobileDecay]

10 trillion billion jillion dollars! 🤪​@Jacksontruman92

[@diamondheadify-v5i]

Funny how this was exactly how the franchise died the first time. Dead Space 3 fell short on EA's expectations.

[@urazz7739]

WTF? EA must've had unrealistic expectations. The Deadspace series was never AAA level in popularity, but more AA. I guess if a game doesn't sell 10 million copies, it's a failure to EA.

[@RockinAfr0]

I swear, a game could be sold to every person on the planet and EA would STILL consider it a financial failure because they expected us to discover life on another planet where they could've sold the game to as well... Dead Space deserves better, or at least more respect than this!

[@tronam]

But the truth is that it sold to hardly anybody on the planet, so this shouldn't be a shock to anyone.

[@tbone9474]

​@tronam if they measure with the 7 odd billion on the planet then yes

[@ninochaosdrache3189]

Sure. That's why EA greenlit Jedi Survivor or It Takes Two, because they are never happy with singleplayer sales. Maybe, just maybe, the customer base for Dead Space simply doesn't exist

[@tbone9474]

@@ninochaosdrache3189 yeah and jedi survivor was an unfinished unoriginal turd

[@praisetheoak]

Almost nobody bought the game, that is the truth. The remake was really good, it just didn't sell and a huge part of its potential player base went for Callisto instead since it was a newer experience from "some" of the same people from the og Dead Space. Callisto being mediocre killed a lot of enthusiasm for new players regarding the Dead Space remake. It all comes down to Callisto, Dead Space and RE4 launching within a 3/4 month window, too close to one another, and the bigger fish, RE4 won big in the end.

[@parkerbrown5565]

After waiting over 10 years for my favorite franchise to be treated right we get a spectacular remake just for it to be choaked out. Issac Clarke will always be my favorite protagonist, even if DS 3 had it's issues I loved the way Issac and Carver were written. It's heartbreaking seeing such a special franchise be treated to badly...

[@jubal6654]

Their expectation would never be met, that's the curse of continuous growth, there's never enough for them

[@gabrote42]

And a failure live service gets made again even though it loses money

[@lionzcrown1702]

The game sold like shit what does anyone expect lol

[@jubal6654]

@@lionzcrown1702 everyone has been praising the game and we don't have numbers, we only have what EA says and I don't take anything they say

[@leonreaper90]

It only sold 1 million units

[@Dumbrarere]

@@leonreaper90 That is according to EA. But I don't believe them for a second, because it won second best selling in the US in January 2023. That, and they continue to refuse to give us hard numbers. Also "sales" alone aren't enough to say a game is a success or not anymore, thanks to streaming services like Gamepass.

[@rasmie8858]

EA already said this rumor was false and that there was no Dead Space 2 remake in development or even planned...on the same day...

[@fray7884]

EA being EA, is anybody here even surprised at this point?

[@robchuk4136]

Shouldn't be. This was an unnecessary remake.

[@AngelGel01]

Did you buy the game?

[@JonySmith-bb4gx]

Blessed with dead space remake I think you and i have different definition of "blessed". Dead space was a bad remake . I played like 1 stage and stopped. Original had better story . Why is yongyea reverting to cyberpunk advocate yongyea who misled us all those years ago ? EA is an insult to gaming

[@paireon3419]

Surprised? No. Disappointed? Yes.

[@jarrettodom3943]

@@JonySmith-bb4gx The story of the remake and the original are nearly the exact same, how the hell was the remake worse when it fixed the plot holes the original had?.

[@L0neSiPh0n]

Just take the IP from them. Even at gunpoint, I don't care. Stealing from EA is morally righteous.

[@jimmyv3170]

Years of brand damage are catching up to EA. They're just a Madden/FC/ Apex Legends factory now.

[@devbyrd6127]

That’s where the money is unfortunately. It’s much easier for a company to play it safe with known money machines than actually branching out

[@Tentegen]

That makes alot of sense actually...

[@hustler666100]

Apex legends factory makes your point irrelevant

[@dullnwhiteish6125]

Wow guess Ubisoft ain’t the only dummy lately. I wanted a Dead Space 2 remake so bad.

[@dragontemplar4561]

EA: Maybe I am the bad guy. Also EA: NO! It's the Consumers who are wrong!

[@aestheticmirror9257]

They deadass told us we didn’t want single player games, we wanted live service

[@thefiresworddragon927]

This implied they even considered the possibility they were wrong.

[@sophieedel6324]

The consumers didn't buy the game. What is with the fake outrage, if you wanted the game, you should have bought it. You didn't.

[@LoganHunter82]

Super nintendo Chalmers: SKINNEER!!

[@Parthornax]

EA has this ridiculous mentality where they want to invest a couple thousand dollars and get back millions of dollars in returns. Kinda like those yearly sports games. The make infinite amounts of money in exchange for some pocket change. It’s warped EA mindset.

[@jackstraw4222]

thats why the hardcore cod supporters and battlefield are equally to blame for buying huge amounts copies making EA believe its still as big as ever...

[@Dumbrarere]

@@jackstraw4222 Hardcore COD and Battlefield Fan here. Didn't buy any of the Modern Warfare remakes, returned Black Ops 4 without ever playing it (even though it was a christmas gift from my mother) in exchange for two games that were leagues better, last ever COD game bought and played was Black Ops Cold War. As for Battlefield, played Battlefield 3, both of the Bad Company titles, and Battlefield 1. Never purchased a new Battlefield title since, considering how bad they messed up Battlefield V (though their Pacific campaign and their The Last Tiger stories were the best in the entire game). At least some of us are capable of critical thinking.

[@ozzcoremidmx8287]

The remake was pretty good the problem is that EA as a brand is tarnished

[@originalscreenname44]

I’d say at least for me that’s why I didn’t buy it. I’m a big fan of Dead Space but I’m an even bigger fan of not giving EA my money.

[@mrpositronia]

Precisely. People don't want to further line EA's pockets

[@nickhard7615]

I figure it's because Dead Space is a genuinely horrifying game and does a very excellent job at creating a sense of dread and anxiety that is unparalleled to even the REmakes and that just is not mainstream enough in it's appeal. Horror games are kinda niche, like fighting games. You're really only appealing to a particular audience with them.

[@ninochaosdrache3189]

Just because a game is good doesn't mean it will sell. Look at Titanfall.

[@Elric19772]

Yep, I have a hard "Don't give EA money" policy. It stopped me buying this game even though I loved DS1 and 2 originals. If I were to buy it, it'd be from a 2nd hand shop.

[@brosch91]

Sales expectations are way too high right now and most of the world is facing a cost of living crisis. The first area of expenses people cut is entertainment. And its only going to get worse

[@AngraMainiiu]

And most people had a choice of Dead Space or Resident Evil and the winner is obvious...

[@bladelazoe]

Yea, the environment is a big factor, dead space originally came out in 2008, were in 2024, so much has changed even in real life.

[@harl3quinhrl]

EA doesn't do this often, but they did say this rumor to be a lie regarding Dewd Space 2 Remakem

[@SakuraAvalon]

So many people are quick to claim E.A. is being disingenuous, while ignoring the fact that they're doing the same thing by assuming the game sold well, with no actual proof. Just because E.A. is a terrible company, doesn't mean everything they say is a lie. Even if the truth is upsetting.

[@wordenroger6188]

GamersTM introspecting is like waiting for hell to freeze over

[@Tjoeb123]

When publisher expectations are so twisted that a game series died twice.

[@TraumaCenter13]

Just like Square Enix when they Tomb Raider at the time.

[@Tjoeb123]

@@TraumaCenter13And Sleeping Dogs and one other game.

[@TraumaCenter13]

@@Tjoeb123 Deus Ex

[@tronam]

AAA graphics, fidelity, and polish don't come cheap. Expecting 4-5 million copies sold in order to be considered a success isn't that "twisted".

[@_Cetarial]

@@Tjoeb123 Sleeping Dogs 2 was scrapped in late 2013 before the project even went into production.

[@MisterSavage777]

In 4 years, Dead Space will be 20 years old and EA has been disrespecting it the entire time. They wouldn't know a good game even if it made all the money in the world.

[@roonkolos]

EA revived Dead Space just so they could kill it a second time

[@Koala1203]

D'EA'd Space

[@haunterdragon4580]

Don't worry they'll use the anger of this cancellation to cancel another game: iron man.

[@Elitesolider1023]

I'm pretty sure eventually it will be on the rise again. I don't think they would be that stupid. Enough to bring it back, just to kill it again. Something tells me there's more going on than we know. Behind their doors that doesn't really have anything to do with dead space. It was even confirmed 2 wasn't even planned I think people are just letting their hatred over ea. Get in the way of their judgment. I'm not defending them and I hate them if not more than the next guy, but it doesn't change the fact that given on how much f***** u* s***, they're, it's going on that are dwindling sales. There's no surprise. Why the remake did not sell so well? And given the fact that ea pretty much mostly already killed the franchise 11 years back with hardly any fans clinging on to it, I'm not saying they should give up on it, even though in my opinion, they should probably just give it a capcom or Sony or amazon, but I would rather have them buy ea.

[@pete17989]

There's a few things that need to be pointed out here: - Comparing sales against Res 4 on Steam does not make sense as a lot of Dead Space sales were made directly on EA launcher. But obviously Res is more mainstream and would sell more. - EA closed Ridgeline so Motive are now working on the next Battlefield single player campaign which is rumoured to come out next year. They have multiple studios pushing to get it out and they can't afford another fk up.

[@agayweirdo5404]

seeing news like this make me really grateful that Resident Evil is still an ongoing series sells millions and is not afraid to experiment for better or worse 😆

[@daksans6764]

Resident Evil is the most popular survival horror franchise that's why it sells relatively better

[@kaidanardono2691]

The reason the sales fell short is because: 1) Their regular braindead customers didn't buy it. 2) There are people who hate having Origin in their PC enough to not buy the game just because of it. 3) There are people who just won't give money to the company anymore. 4) They know all of the above and try to make a pathetic point that single player games don't make them money.

[@keystrix3704]

5) There are people like me who didn't like all the bad and/or unnecessary changes they made and didn't buy it or returned their copy.

[@perseus6024]

6) Some people just bought the original Deadspace or decided to play the original. I won't buy the remake til it's 10 dollars are less....it's a remake of an already good game.

[@sophieedel6324]

Or the non-conspiracy reason....few people bought the game, because few people are into this genre. And just because a game got good "review scores", doesn't mean it will sell (see Alan Wake 2, a similar genre to Dead Space, with good reviews, but poor sales).

[@dr.sivavignesh664]

The pc version is broken. It has fps drops every 10 seconds. Cause be it denuvo or a blatantly bad port. Don't expect sales on a broken game on pc.

[@keystrix3704]

@@sophieedel6324 That's a problem with companies setting expectations too high and Capcom fell into the same hole once a long time ago, canceling Devil May Cry because they somehow expected DMC4 to sell like Call of Duty. Horror games tend to sell less in general for them most obvious of reasons: most people aren't into horror games. But by no means does that mean "stop making horror games", just don't dump all your eggs into one basket when making one. I'm sure there's a better saying I could use there, but whatever.

[@JRubin3]

I’m not a fan of horror games myself but I can appreciate the work and talent that went into the remake. It looked gorgeous, was remade with love and attention to details, and managed to keep the same vibe and feel as the original while also making it somewhat new. Really hope they can get a chance to do the same to 2 and especially 3 (hopefully without the microtransactions).

[@Fxrrxt2x]

As an enthusiast of Dead Space, there are definitely a lot of nuances that make up Dead Space's feel and atmosphere that the remake was lacking. It wasn't just plain better.

[@305backup]

Gee, who knew raising console prices to $70 usd would equal less sales.. Shocker.

[@Ghostshadow112]

I felt guilty buying a game on sale for $2, I can't afford anything anymore. lol

[@catandrobbyflores]

I bought Dead Space on black Friday for 40. Still, this sucks.

[@happyjam92]

Maybe If they lowered game prices at launch they'd sell more...because they are within far more peoples budgets. Its almost like they don't realise as inflation sky rockets in the west luxury items like video games get lower on the priority list.

[@alexanwhat]

$70 being nearly $80 with tax. I bought the remake on sale, got it for $45 bucks or so in total

[@joshwhite557]

Bro same, I got a series x finally and I'm having trouble buying any full priced games now. Most of the games come out broken nowadays.

[@Lord_of_Dread]

EA is sure to learn the wrong lessons from this as usual. Why didn't I buy Deadspace? - The first game still holds up well. A remake wasn't really essential at this point - Many of the new improvements require a graphics card better than what I have. Nvidia hasn't come out with a compelling midranged option since 10 series and AMD is too power inefficient and doesn't have the RT chops yet - First game is playable in 3D on my monitor. Only way to play the new one in 3D would be using UEVR injector, which is even more demanding and a lot more hacky. Would also mean VR HMD display only, no 3D monitor output. - Stuttering was supposedly never fixed. With more time, I'm sure DS1Remake will gain more sales

[@Dumbrarere]

The Dead Space Remake was better than the OG, not from a development or writing standpoint, but from the context of continuity. Historically, Isaac Clarke never spoke a damn word until DS2, and the remake corrects that. It also rectifies the continuity error with how the jetpacking and zero gravity maneuvering worked between the OG DS and DS2. That said though DS2Remake probably won't be needed for some time. A remaster, more likely. A DS3 remake would be welcome though, to correct the issues that held it back.

[@tealishpotato]

EA: Even when we do something right, we manage to fuck up.

[@AngelGel01]

Tell that to the people that didn’t bought the game, game development is a business

[@JuanGomez-ke5py]

Ea Two-step back to step forward

[@trutyatces8699]

@@AngelGel01 except people *did* buy the game and the Publisher didn't care. They can say the game fell below expectations all they want, but this is a company that bloats them to hell and their word cannot be trusted.

[@drvnzer1128]

@@trutyatces8699I keep seeing people say this but there’s no official sales numbers.

[@AngelGel01]

@@trutyatces8699 no they didn’t, you know what game they did buy? Howarts legacy and we getting a sequel thanks to that 🥰

[@PremiumAli]

But doesn’t this again just shows what we have seen so many times.. Fans yell and cry about wanting something. And when it’s out they don’t support the developers but wait until it’s in a bargain bin.

[@300IQPrower]

Classic EA move. This was gift wrapped for them with how miraculously good the remake was and how terrible Callisto was and yet they still failed to capitalize and chalked it up to "single player bad"

[@manuelacosta9463]

At this point you're better off playing the OG Dead Space on PS3 completely off the internet. Same for older titles.

[@Elitesolider1023]

I just think that they should have just put it on all consoles, old and new and had a better fair price for it. Or otherwise, none of this would have happened, and they would be still interested in continuing it, which they probably are just not soon enough

[@xiangli5829]

It should have been a low effort remake that takes 1 product manager, 2 art designers and 2 developers 1 year of time. It would have sold over a million copies and been considered a success. EA miscalculated and spent too much.

[@finnmchugh99]

EA did a similar thing when American McGee pitched a new Alice Madness game called Alice Asylum. It has a design bible/layout very indepth and you can find it free on his patreon BUT EA not only refused the game but they are holding onto the IP cuz they don't see it as being profitable. To thst i say, if it ain't profitable then let McGee pitch to another dang studio you mofos!!!

[@sonicexereaper6814]

Funny you mentioned it cuz there was a Smiling Friends scene where a video game character is trying to get a new game, but the corpo CEO didn’t want to do anything like making a new game due to the retro era being “outdated”. One of the duo mentions if the CEO can at least give away the IP to another company, but the CEO brushed it off and mentions that the video game character can work as a cameo skin to “help boost profits”. Then when the duo took the video game character to have his game made elsewhere, the CEO made threats to hunt down the duo and claims that the video game character is his IP and he can do what he want with him, even leaving his game franchise in the corner collecting dust. That’s pretty much what EA will do with Dead Space next than just Alice Madness.

[@Elitesolider1023]

​@@sonicexereaper6814Which is ridiculous because there is no point of keeping something that you're not even gonna do shitwaf. It's like buying a factory and you have no workers or whatever? Then, what would be the point of owning it? If nothing is in production, these people are so f****** childish. That just had parents that never told them no They should not even be allowed to run a business since they do not know how business actually works.

[@Theson97]

I think this blatantly shows what Dead Space as a franchise really is. It’s a niche game/community where only that small amount of people in the entire “gamer ecosystem” (in the grand scheme of things) really enjoyed it and the masses really didn’t. I remember even when it originally came out, it wasn’t as popular as the heavy hitters at the time (like your CODs and what not) and it really only had more of cult following.

[@NelsonPimenta93]

EA expects a niche franchise like Dead Space to sell 20 million copies or more, and when it doesn't they try to go generic like they did for Dead Space 3 in an attempt to appeal to a wider audience.

[@Slitheringpeanut]

It did originally.

[@Olter_]

​@@SlitheringpeanutNo it didnt, not even close lmao

[@riemaennchen]

Thats just EA sadly. Look at WIld Hearts for example. Monster Hunter World sold over 20 Million copies so Wild Hearts should've done so aswell, right? Well it didn't and thus EA killed a very promising alternative to Monster Hunter.

[@BrokeGuysEntertainmentTV]

It probably didn’t even sell 2 million , I don’t blame EA for this one 😂

[@MrVirtual1337]

​@@BrokeGuysEntertainmentTV You just can't charge the same amount of money for an old game that's only been remastered. Also, there was no option to buy the game for cheaper if you already own DS1, I think a lot of people weren't willing to pay full price if they already own DS1. Who else would you blame if the game doesn't sell well, the customers? 🙄

[@patrickarraes4422]

I blame the consumers in this case. The game is amazing, got 10/10 reviews. Amazing sound design, it did not sell well like RE4. Marketing was also very good. For the people that like horror games and didn't buy it day one, this is a shame.

[@EthNet34756]

Deus Ex now this. Fuck the gaming industry

[@Dantexshadows]

I'm started to feel like a boomer in my gaming tastes, because all the styles of games I want to play is like ten years or old in age. We might as well find other games to look forward to and just play older ones if this is what the gaming industry is going to become.

[@gabrielgillogly7676]

i don't know i feel like a year ago yong was more current with his stories i have heard this already on the 11. yeah its only 4 days after i heard about it but last year i felt like he was much more quicker with the news. i don't know if this channel is less a priority or i am just more informed now.

[@dv2945]

Are you kidding me? Sales fell short of expectations? It's the exact same mistake they made before this is insane

[@ninochaosdrache3189]

It's hard to blame them when nobody bought it

[@davidjsaul]

@@ninochaosdrache3189 EA are precisely the reason some people didn't buy it. They hate the publisher. EA can only blame themselves for their piss poor reputation at this point

[@isaac6clarke]

So people really believed that it got cancelled?? It wasnt even in any early development yet 🤣 Motive and EA even said they need a good long break before they decide what to do with the Dead Space IP whether thats another Remake or a new installation in the series like Dead Space 4 or a new story line, everyone is so naive 🤣

[@beatluck9747]

I work at EA Motive, the dead space dev team hoped to work on a sequal, but the game undersold, (the target number were not even unreasonable) . And because the ratings were so high, it was determined that a deadspace game was simply not what most people are interested in.

[@mikev8746]

True, most people are pussies afterall. Jokes aside, DS2 probably would have been more action heavy with grander spectacle. Would have easily appealed to more of ‘these people’ and sold higher numbers than the scary original. My two cents ofc

[@IntrusiveThoughts838]

Aw man, well I hope they give you guys the chance to continue on it if they grow a few braincells for you pretty much helped bring back a awesome franchise

[@BrokeGuysEntertainmentTV]

1-2 million not even that good if half the purchases waited for a price drop like so many people have were saying they would do at launch 🤷🏾

[@Yusis-o7d]

What were their sales numbers exactly? I'm finding it hard to believe Dead Space didn't sell well enough.

[@aaronsandman749]

It sold fine. It didn't meet their greedy standards, is all.

[@ausgod538]

@@aaronsandman749 theres literlly no sales numbers available.

[@aaronsandman749]

@ausgod538 Doesn't need to be. We don't need to know the exact sales number to get a general idea of how the game sold. We all know it sold millions. And we sure as h*ll don't need to be told the expectation amount that EA put on it. We all know it was far too high.

[@SakuraAvalon]

@@aaronsandman749 That's not how this works. You can't just boast made up success with no evidence, and act like it's fact.

[@drvnzer1128]

@@aaronsandman749we don’t know anything tho???

[@doriangray8032]

What do people expect, AAA game to make is expensive, with 2mil copies you won't get positive 0 in sense of investment and return

[@justinnguyen3918]

I think this is the kind of news EA uses to feed their argument of nobody wanting linear single player games.

[@originalscreenname44]

One day they’ll realize that nobody trusts them anymore but the people who are locked on Apex/Madden/whatever the fuck their soccer game is called now.

[@sophieedel6324]

Do many people actually want linear $70 games with little replay value? I certainly don't. Poor sales of Dead Space and Alan Wake 2 show people don't think that's a good deal.

[@derpthegr8689]

@@sophieedel6324 but Alan Wake didn't launch at full retail AAA price (On PC at least). Probably would have sold a little better if it launched on Steam as well instead of just Epic

[@justinnguyen3918]

@@sophieedel6324 well better than most live services. Games should be an art, a piece of entertainment, not a second job you work for

[@gracecalis5421]

@@justinnguyen3918 Most people play live service games because they're entertaining.

[@WhoAmIWill]

Game companies don’t always start on sequels immediately after a game comes out. Dead space 2 remake could still happen just later than most would like.

[@SABbrew]

If anything is lack luster, it's EA as a whole.

[@theInfra-Recon]

This is actually bad, while remakes are not always good, the problem here is that EA Execs will say that good games don't sell and then try to push live Service, low-quality, mismanaged games. The reason why Dead Space Remake didn't make good sales is because, - Time of release(a lot of people waited for and bought callisto) - DRM they added for no reason - EA App - The Price of the remake, players would buy a different game even if it's bad versus a Remake(a game that people already played) all of that besides EA's track record, Jedi Survivor ended up running like garbage, and EA adopted loot boxes and bad practices in their single-player games. This is what I call EA paying for their transgressions.

[@jcrebel18]

tbh, I already knew EA would do this, which is why I hated that they were reamking it just to kill it off again.

[@CerealKiller2]

People forget that all the old Dead Space games were also commercial failures at the time. Of course, if you remake a commercial failure and it's this true to form, you're going to get another commercial failure.

[@Qhther]

What’s the point of EA buying all these developers when all they do is shell them..

[@youngsomalia1511]

Eliminate competition so their worse games will look better by lack of contrast, and perform better by lack of options 🤪

[@ninochaosdrache3189]

EA didn't shell them Motive is still alive and kicking

[@johnhanzelyjr]

@@youngsomalia1511 Exactly....to eliminate any competitive studio.

[@hustler666100]

@@johnhanzelyjr nope

[@jbktpl1245]

At this point they might as well sell the IP along with many others that are collecting dust on their metaphorical shelves to someone who wants it. I know they have no obligation to sell to people but what's the point of just shelving something that might be there for a few decades? (Granted, Dead Space isn't a small franchise and could get something later down the road, but still)

[@troin3925]

I thought that game was a success and sold like hot cakes!? What "expectations" could they have possibly had!? Update: Title was kind of clickbait. I'm slightly less angry now knowing that there wasn't even a Dead Space 2 remake in the works in the first place... but only slightly. Apparently, the game didn't sell well anyway.

[@mrjtfang2]

I think people are blowing it out of proportion atm, we've kinda had false hope for DS2 for a while but we should've known it would be a bit before we get the game. Also, DS2 was never in dev. Just so we're caught up.

[@troin3925]

@@mrjtfang2 I updated my comment.

[@mrjtfang2]

@@troin3925 the vibe is real

[@sophieedel6324]

It didn't "sell like hotcakes" at all. It sold somewhere between 1 and 2 million copies, EA is not disclosing how many. That might not sound horrible, but considering it had a large development and advertising budget, that is pretty poor.

[@troin3925]

@@sophieedel6324 Oh... ok.

[@Leinad0001]

I feel the other half of the issue was that the gamers decided to go with TCP, and we know how that turned out

[@OneWhoKnowsThings6009]

EA just hates its player base.. even if it was over its expectations they would say its STILL don't meet its expectations

[@SolarCacti]

Dead Space was the first ever rated M game I owned and played back in 2008, I have a huge spot in my heart for that franchise, even the Anime movies and 3rd game I still loved it. When the remake was announced and released I was so hopeful to see the franchise come back. I’m very disheartened with EA’s choices and wish they would just give the IP up instead of locking it away again.

[@missedmurphy]

You had one job, EA

[@GM-xk1nw]

Make money for the investors

[@jubal6654]

​@@GM-xk1nw and they did but it wasn't enough for their greed

[@Slitheringpeanut]

@@jubal6654 That's not on EA. In this case. That's on the Investors having unrealistic expectations.

[@CoOlKyUbI96]

@@Slitheringpeanutbut aren’t the investors apart of EA?

[@jubal6654]

@@Slitheringpeanut EA and the investors are all one in the same

[@ichangedmyname4108]

this isn't news though is it? after the remake released everyoine knew ea weren't making a sequel because they directly said so. they also said motive would be busy with iron man. this isn't news, we all knew this.

[@Atrenu]

I had heard about this before, but also heard that this was merely a rumor and that they didn't necessarily shelve Dead Space again

[@GeorgeMonet]

I wouldn't have faulted the decision even if it had been made. AAA games have become too expensive to make. It only makes sense that if the projections had shown that there wouldn't be enough sales to justify the huge cost of developing a new game based on sales of the remake then the obvious decision would be to can it.

[@sootythunder3111]

unfortunately due to how modern games are funded with taking massive bank loans, if a company makes 1 game that flops it puts a massive pressure on their other products (who they themselves are funded on massive bank loans) to try and make up the difference to pay off their debts, with immortals of Aveum a game that cost 125 million dollars to make, which flopped hard never even having a concurrent player count of over 800 players on steam, EA got caught in a tailspin, and while Dead Space might have made a profit, the time and resources for a sequel vs how much of a profit was made on the previous game it might not have been enough to justify a sequel with the banks banging on their door wanting their money back, that time and resources was relegated to more profitable venues unfortunately thats the state of AAA right now due to all these mergers, one flop might not only kill one franchise but multiple others who profit margins aren't enough to subsidies the costs of the failure

[@Dantexshadows]

More people need to talk about this stuff, this also effected Esports after the crypto crash. Then suddenly, Esports became an even larger loss leader than it was before.

[@gracecalis5421]

We always said people should vote with their wallets. Well, there you go, people voted with their wallets. I'm having a hard time looking for reason to blame EA on this one. They did everything right. They gave them ample time to develop the game and get it right, and out of that we got a fantastic remake. The game not performing good enough isn't on them it's on consumers. And if consumers are saying (through their wallets) that they're not interested in the DS remake, what reason would EA have to remake the sequel?

[@wind369]

Everytime I think EA can’t disappoint me further they keep surprising me again and again

[@fusingentree3928]

I mean what did yall expect, if a game does not earn enough money they wont make another one.

[@ProjectPhoenix21]

Random EA employee: “Looks like we have a hit! People loved the game!” EA executives: “Kill the franchise, it isn’t generic enough”

[@trutyatces8699]

I think you meant to write "Kill the franchise, it *isn't* generic enough". This is EA we're talking about here.

[@ProjectPhoenix21]

@@trutyatces8699 honest mistake, yeah. My bad

[@grasped2]

I remember there was a rumor that EA usually aims for 10 millions copies in order to consider a product a success. So even 5 millions copies wouldn't be enough.

[@robchuk4136]

Well there ya go. People really did vote with their wallets.

[@brandongray1059]

Great to see, for sure.

[@AngelGel01]

Yup, all people care is to play Fortnite and watch streamers play games like dead space

[@thegreatpoo2electricboogal318]

​@@AngelGel01 streamers are ruining games too. Especially horror games.

[@AngelGel01]

@@thegreatpoo2electricboogal318 bro so many people I know have the “nah I just watch a streamer play the game” mentality and then they cry cuz businessmen kill they fav franchises

[@deandre6559]

I was out when they made a character look uglier and added an all genders bathroom

[@BatLB]

critically acclaimed unfortunately doesnt translate to sales. Pokemon Games sell AMAZINGLY and are always considered pure garbage.

[@nman551]

God those games don’t deserve the sales they get. Especially the more recent ones, they are so broken.

[@BatLB]

@@nman551 its the franchise man. Magic the Gathering makes so much money with all their collab sets even tho the cards are basically useless for any competitive play. Just print a name on it people know and it sells

[@nman551]

@@BatLB gross

[@callumcasey9156]

Fantastic Game and sold pretty well, all things considered. EA: Nah, capitalizing on that would make sense, Mobile Games and Loot Boxes is where the future's at. WTF is the games industry.

[@CarvedStones]

It didn’t make a return on investment at all, so it wasn’t profitable. Streaming culture is killing horror games because people would rather watch it than play it.

[@johnhanzelyjr]

"WTF is with the games industry?" Well.....AAA publishers are expecting infinite profits from them, and the "best" way for them are Mobile Games and Loot Boxes. When you make a game in a way that requires the constant purchase of Loot Boxes and Microtransactions....BOOM.....Infinite profits. That's what's wrong.

[@VaTzRaDz]

I love how EA always put their greatest titles in the background and don't do s*** with them. That remake was spectacular it had me so hyped for the same studio to do 2 and 3 as well. I paid for the deluxe edition of Dead space remake and it was worth every penny... but Here's a tip if you want sales don't put your game on game pass.😂

[@rzrrox4202]

They don't like games they can't hammer us with transactions. Otherwise they'd keep remaking the Dead Space series. It's all greed and it sold quite well.

[@DrownedInExile]

Really is anyone surprised by this? EA is EA, the Grim Reaper of video games. Nothing's changed.

[@alexalachan6952]

Your right like surely the mountain of bodies of studios and games left at their wake would be hard to miss. They got voted worst video company ever twice and caused that nuclear explosions of loot box storm in Star Wars battlefront as just two of the many and many skeletons in their closet.

[@michaeltheundeadmariachi4494]

I get the feeling that the Mass Effect ip is next

[@leon6257]

People asking for remakes but very few buy them. Why would you remake the 2nd if the first one barely covered the cost of development. EA is propably right for the first(and last) time.

[@jerichoofabsolution2079]

Weren't there articles and EA even disproving that they aren't canning Motive's Dead Space 2 remake?

[@CZJames20]

Yes, Yong is reporting on this without sufficient info about it, thus spreading false info.

[@mikev8746]

@@CZJames20Huh?

[@star-gurlly]

I really hope this is true 😭

[@toddclawson3619]

As Yong mentioned, It wasn't that they cancelled Dead Space 2 remake development, but that they hadn't even started or considered it yet. Now this does mean it is entirely possible that EA and Motive will work on a Dead Space 2 remake at some point in the future, but there are currently no plans for it.

[@mikev8746]

@@toddclawson3619 And the momentum was there right now so that doesn't bode well. But honestly I'm well past the point of caring. I have games like Elden Ring, Final Fantasy, Persona, Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid 3 is getting a Remake. Dragons Dogma is back. I could go on. I really don't care anymore what stupid shit western developers are up to next. They simply lost the plot. Even when they do something good they do something bad a while later.

[@SleepyMook]

EA has said that there is no validity to this story so a potential remake could still be on the table.

[@jackluffy7914]

God i never hated a company more than EA. Wish dead space was given to a company that would take care of it more like capcom or something

[@jubal6654]

It's really is the smiling friend joke of the gaming CEO not letting Gwimbly make his independent game because it was he's IP to sit on and do nothing with it

[@jackluffy7914]

@@jubal6654 EXACTLY they probably thought of EA when they made that joke

[@gabrieltejada1697]

Capcom? Are we just gonna ignore their history on the bad stuff they did for several years? Or the fact that they don’t seem to care much about the megaman franchise.

[@jubal6654]

@@gabrieltejada1697 compare to EA they are saints

[@jackluffy7914]

@@gabrieltejada1697 they are redeeming themselves a lot these past years Dmc 5, monster hunter, resident evil and street fighting are all getting a lot of support and love compared to how they used to be. And it seems like the focus they have now is just making fun games which a lot of companies are forgetting to do. You can think about the bad stuff but you can’t ignore the good stuff they’ve done. Hell they even gave their employees a raise because of how good the company is doing now

[@elitedovahkiin756]

EA is garbage. Dead space is great

[@shaokahn9487]

but they're the publishers who greenlit dead space remake

[@izzuddinmnasir4884]

EA needs to ditch Investors. EA is not a factory. Investors dividends = basically debt

[@MikeSerrene]

its not investors its EA itself, go look at what they did to Alice Asylum, american mcgee funded the design bible created the entire plot to the game had the full thing planned ready to go with Investors from big companies ready to fund the game, AKA EA didnt have to do a thing no money investment and basically free money when they publish a game they put no money towards and they still said no, purely out of spite at this point, its why EA is on my never buy list and i will never care for any game EA publishes until they greenlight Alice Asylum EA is dead, even if someone funded a deadspace 4 and made a design bible and aquired funding from anywhere else they would still say no to a dead space 4. hell american has even asked to buy the alice franchise back and they wont sell it back. they are just greedy from the core and investors going will not change that, i would say they need more investors so they can dissapoint faster and die faster cause only by EA collapsing would any good come out of it

[@Elitesolider1023]

​@@MikeSerreneSomeone should just buy EA since they won't sell their games. They would probably rather sell themselves out to a better company to fix their s*** and with how things are going, it will probably eventually happen and it should probably be either amazon or sony Even if they do fall, their IPS would probably end up in the hands of those companies anyway that are way better off and give it on how good fallout is. They could definitely nail the park with a dead space movie and show.

[@Rain-lb1ts]

I still think it was better than the English version of judgment on yakuza infinite wealth. The guy who dubbed that song ruined the whole thing..

[@Snuffdadd]

Dead Space remake did not hit all the right notes, at all, imo. The potential was there but it went the sensationalized route. What I mean by that... - bigger focus on in-your-face jump-scares, also prevalent in new sound design (aliens constantly scream like drunken sailors, even when sneaking up from behind); - dumbed down characters, like the new talkative and constantly blabbering Isaac, and especially Hammond - in the remake he's turned into Three Stooges and wins the deserved Darwin award; - or just completely changed/ruined characters like Nicole, even Kendra is a completely different person. I realize that remake means a complete overhaul, but I don't agree with changing the source material this much. The deep and dark atmosphere is almost completely gone in the remake. And for those new directional reasons I could care less if they shut down this franchise, again. Third game already was garbage juice enough to nuke it from orbit, along with EA.

[@RepellentJeff]

“It’s MY IP to sit on and do nothing with!” -Video game CEO from Smiling Friends

[@3Guys1Video]

I’m sorry, but didn’t EA come out and say this wasn’t the case days ago? Why are you not bringing that up?

[@gatekeeper7211]

Exactly four days ago., Kotaku and Yongyea for reasons unknown are either unaware that EA has indeed refuted that claim, maybe its a slow news gathering week? Or some kind of view bait?

[@3Guys1Video]

@@gatekeeper7211 I hope it’s not

[@The_Gamer_91]

EA denying the rumor doesn't mean that a Dead Space project is in the works. It could just mean that they never started another game.

[@3Guys1Video]

@@The_Gamer_91 that could be the case too. It’s just I don’t think they shelved DS because of the remake’s performance, but rather they never planned to do another in the first place

[@ITSMrBubbles1nOnly]

I wonder if Callisto Protocol had any effect. It released under 2 months before Dead Space, and seemed to disappoint many. Could've taken some of the steam out of the Sci-fi Horror genre.

[@raphaelbrown6314]

Pls don't start blaming other for dead space not doing well there are other reasons why it didn't do well callisto didn't do jack shit and i'm pretty sure there same that really enjoyed the game bro same with the dead space remake it's just ea being ea

[@ITSMrBubbles1nOnly]

@@raphaelbrown6314 Not blaming, but wondering the effects of a similar genre releasing before another. It's unlikely to affect much since Dead Space is well known and Callisto is new, but still interesting to think about.

[@eXponentia]

Okay, but lets be real, of all the corporate decisions around media that can be made "You didn't buy the thing so we won't make the second thing" is the most sensical.

[@mahks-pectith3179]

But people did buy the thing, EA is just pissy cause not ENOUGH people (supposedly) bought the thing

[@eXponentia]

@@mahks-pectith3179 Your point? If I make a movie and 3 people see it and it cost me 100k I'm not gonna spend another 100k to make another. Even if I make 101k, unless it took me less than a week to make I'm not gonna do it again.

[@tomatomaki]

Thank you Chong Yue for the awesome news.

[@DeadPixel1105]

Chong Yue 😂😂

[@tomatomaki]

@@DeadPixel1105 What's wrong with the name Big Brother has?

[@HoodedMushroom]

That's so sad, I was so looking forward to a Dead Space 2 remake... I wonder if the sales would be higher without Streamers.... A few people bought the game, millions just watched.

[@Boss_Fight_Index_muki]

_These are the risky shots EA took in the last year:_ Wild Hearts (a Monster Hunter World clone), Dead Space Remake, Immortals of Aveum, etc None of them sold, altho not a single one was a live services game or had mtx. As much as we blame EA, on some level it's kinda our fault they're the way they are

[@wordenroger6188]

Very true, but expecting GamersTM to actually take responsibility for anything is like waiting for hell to freeze over. Gamers really have no idea how many of their games they loved growing up were financial failures and is one of the main reasons we don't see them anymore.

[@xcellentcreations3312]

Ok, can someone tell me what sale standard EA wants if a game they publish is to be a ongoing franchise? I ask since how many copies of the already amazing remake of Dead Space is EA demanding?!

[@devnotes00]

ALL of the money with extra zeros

[@RockTheEternal]

Dead space 2008 sold 1m copies, Dead space remake reached about 2 million copies( listened to a podcast and one host liked dead space games and fumed a little about this topic) So EA wanted 4-5m copies sold "to meet expectations" , get it? Double everything, everytime stance

[@dumat100]

EA: "It's MY IP to sit on and do nothing with!!"

[@720jlconner]

Dead Space should be taken from EA and given back to Glen after what EA did to Visceral. Also dont forget EA also killed that Respawn star wars fps game

[@DeadPixel1105]

After Callisto Protocol?!? No no no no no. Keep Glen away from Dead Space.

[@720jlconner]

@@DeadPixel1105 hell yeah. Personally, I thought Collisto protocol was a killer game.