EARD 2023 Panel Discussion: Is Aging Truly Reversible?

[@sivaramaprasaddarsi2104]

Absolutely ,aging is reversible , molecular Regenerative therapy

[@SirTenenbaum]

As several panelists said, changes in aging amount to molecules being in the wrong place over time, so putting molecules back in the right place or removing the wrong molecules to make the molecular structure closer to a younger version is a form of reversing aging.

[@SilverFan21k]

Remarkable panel of so many cool people on stage at once.

[@SilverFan21k]

Great upload

[@andreialcaza]

I hope so

[@johnstibal2131]

All that really needs to be done is to preserve the brain, directly or indirectly, everything else can be replaced. I'm wondering why so many people find this crazy? There is nothing sacred about your body...especially if you have a chronic disease etc.

[@USAtoElsewhere]

I do have the sense that every part of my body comes from my brain.

[@roryblake7311]

Aging is, universally, decline triggered by parasitic action. Starvation is reversible. I'm doing it, people! The last guy on the right was closest...BTW.

[@snorttroll4379]

Lifespan is more important. Health span can be improved later.

[@Montie-Adkins]

A nice talk. At 18 minutes dude says healthspan is way more important than lifespan. Never mind that large sign behind him that says lifespan. But, not to knock it too much, yes healthspan is important too.

[@Cybrix]

Well, healthspan leads to lifespan, so…

[@Basilisk2077]

Well, it is nice to live your miserably short life healthy, but that doesn't change the fact that it's still miserably short. The truth is, we have the lifespans of great apes, not the lifespan of a highly intelligent species, which is why we must fix that.

[@Basilisk2077]

And it's kind of stupid this word "healthspan" like we're going to be as healthy as a 30-year-old biologically and just suddenly die because we hit 90 chronologically.

[@Cybrix]

​@@Basilisk2077 It's a matter of framing. If the language used is "lifespan", the average normie thinks about being decrepit for an indefinitely long time. Using the word "healthspan" shifts the focus to the real goal: keeping people as healthy as they were when they were 30 or younger, and leveraging that good health to indefinitely extend their lives.

[@USAtoElsewhere]

A lot of bad health is tolerated. It's only when it's impossible to tolerate it that death must be given into. There is a big range of what can be tolerated. Many people want to give up at the point where they couldn't take care of themselves. That's not even necessarily the point where there would be discomfort to a significant extent. It sounds like a philosophy that makes some people unable to tolerate living.

[@joeblow1748]

Are we debating fiksing a old car or are we debating unfiring a gun... Is biology a machinery or is it just a chemical change. A dandiline turns grey and we see old age but in nature its just part of an unstoppable prosess.

[@erichines1150]

Aging seems at least in part the symptom of a kind of slow motion stroke, with the functional losses appearing more gradually and much more evenly distributed than a normal infarct, but with ultimately the same result. I suspect viruses are driving this.

[@leiladasha]

aging is reversable we must fix DNA upgrade DNA

[@scotty-ek2ss]

The fact this is still being debated just shows we are nowhere near 😢

[@jordangreenwald1654]

Completely false . Debate is normal aubrey is working on rejuvenation as we speak

[@scotty-ek2ss]

@@jordangreenwald1654 in mice not humans 😢

[@Basilisk2077]

Depends what the role in AI will play in all of this. Superhuman intellegence that has endless data pipelines to sort through solves this a lot quicker. David Sinclair has said "the Wright Brothers are already flying" in regards to human rejuvation. I think we have 25 years tops.

[@ThanosDestroyeryearsago]

@@scotty-ek2ss Yeah, cause we test on mice before humans. We might be able to slow down aging significantly within our lifetime. True immortality is a whole other story. But consider we may live for a few centuries if this works. Then we’ll likely get there. Maybe even a form of Digital Immortality.

[@mystikrebel1089]

yeh it is going to be but for now when i use photoshop

[@dougcane4059]

NO - diabetes can indeed be cured.

[@CamelxRavenNova2]

Transhumanism and biotech

[@fritagonia]

Go Aubrey de Grey! I hope we stop with abusive animal testing and instead start with humans. I think we should skip animal testing as much as possible. Especially when we are not animals anyway.

[@Pyriphlegeton]

But...we are animals.

[@fritagonia]

@@Pyriphlegeton well I mean non-human animals :)

[@Pyriphlegeton]

@@fritagonia Well yeah :D But animals we are. But I totally agree that we should reduce animal testing as far as anyhow possible.

[@jimj2683]

Aubrey has a few more iq-points than the others there...

[@joemagicdeveloper]

Defining ageing, reversing ageing in mice... 🥱 Where are the therapies in humans?! Missed opportunity to talk about and point to clinics actually treating humans!

[@Pyriphlegeton]

Well, that's the biomed pipeline. First only animals.

[@joemagicdeveloper]

@@PyriphlegetonI understand that and that will benefit young people but for us old folks we need it now AND there is a lot happening now for humans. I'm yet to see a presentation/discussion on that! (plus tired of hearing this "pipeline" for the last 3 decades)

[@psychsnail]

​@@joemagicdevelopercouldn't have said it better myself

[@Rafa-pf7kz]

Acredito que a empresa turn.bio vá começar testes em humanos em 2025. Pesquise "turn.bio pipeline".