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Theoria Apophasis

Theoria Apophasis

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@joshsimpson10
@joshsimpson10 Жыл бұрын
To be fair the deity of Christ appears as "The Angel of the Lord" in the Old Testament. The deliverer of the 10 commandments. His incarnation was a veiling for the sake of fulfilling a reconciliation of The Father and his chosen people. So from the biblical perspective Christ met with Moses in his transcendental form as the word of The Father. Then from the New Testament the Holy Spirit indwells his elect people which is essentially divine absolute wisdom. The principle of Theosis is quite interesting and in many ways reflects the ideals of Brahman if not mirrors the ideals. There is alot of false teaching that stretches back to the earliest days of Christianity. Im very much into the early Church and the Church fathers but at the same time at the end of the day its sola scriptura that leads me to my understanding of Christ. Blind faith is a fools errand. I think the endeavor of growing in wisdom is in and of itself an excersize in the growing of faith.
@ABurnedHeretic
@ABurnedHeretic 6 күн бұрын
Thank you for your contributions. I listen and think about what you say, and it helps me move forward on my path.
@IrishWilks
@IrishWilks Жыл бұрын
I love your honesty, your genuine personality. Thank you for having this channel. It's both entertaining and informative! You are way cool dude! ;)
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@SubCultureVulture702
@SubCultureVulture702 Жыл бұрын
I agree!
@HarleyGeezer1954
@HarleyGeezer1954 Жыл бұрын
I have studied Biblical truth since 1979. You are absolutely correct. Yeshua always told his followers to worship GOD the creator not him. I have lost friends for saying Jesus Christ is not GOD. If you try to teach modern Christians the truth about Yeshua you will be shunned harshly and avoided like the plague. I stopped trying many years ago.
@stephengreico504
@stephengreico504 Жыл бұрын
Yes growing up Catholic and now moving to the Bible Belt south you will find they consider Christ and God to be one in the same. I’ve only started listening to this video as I type it. Would you mind elaborating more on your post sir?
@AjNotsri
@AjNotsri Жыл бұрын
Correct. Trinitarian binitarian and pre existence of the messiah are all foreign to the Hebrew Scriptures and Hebrew thought.
@HarleyGeezer1954
@HarleyGeezer1954 Жыл бұрын
@@stephengreico504 I'm sorry. I no longer talk Religious beliefs as it would start a never ending email chain. I think Theoria has a good handle on it.
@doug7180
@doug7180 Жыл бұрын
But, according to followers of the New Testament, Jesus was the first in creature form to create. That is the argument. Who is the first in created form. Which is god in form we can see in the illuminated light. Therefore, he is that invisible energy form in the illuminated creation.
@61066clocks
@61066clocks Жыл бұрын
I agree, However Who is the biological father of Jesus if it was not a flesh Earthly Male?..The Bible goes thru prophecy and scripture that enhances the virgin conception and Birth? DNA/blood is a physical thing not spiritual? ..
@Des7iny7
@Des7iny7 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ken. One ‘organised religion’ actually preaches that ‘religion is a snare & a racket’ but has 8 million members 🤣 You made my day with this 💗
@marcusgotts2938
@marcusgotts2938 Жыл бұрын
I gained a lot of insight from this video and it answered some questions that I have been pondering on for years. So many thanks...
@jeffstevens3697
@jeffstevens3697 Жыл бұрын
How does God, who is holy and eternal (outside of time) make himself visible to mankind within time? What does the reflection of God who is invisible look like? God's Christ, who is Jesus, is the exact reflection of the eternal creator within time. John 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. To believe means God has given you this ability by His mercy. A natural man cannot conjure up the belief. We are naturally opposed to God and to Christ. We want to rule ourselves. And we will make every excuse we can to avoid the truth about Jesus. Until God grabs our heart - we will continue to deny him.
@rohanstrathie8913
@rohanstrathie8913 Жыл бұрын
As humans we needed a revelation of God. And to show us himself in human form is the ultimate revelation. Unlike other religions our 'deity' Jesus Christ has risen and we have evidence of that through the Holy Spirit. As well as prophecies being fulfilled. I think these videos are aimed at religion which Jesus even talked against being saying not to be overly religious and was persecuted by the Pharisees.
@jeffstevens3697
@jeffstevens3697 Жыл бұрын
​@@rohanstrathie8913 as humans, we need redemption. The biggest problem is our idea that we are all somehow "good" and in no need of saving. We are walking dead without Christ redeeming us back to God. Back to life.
@lorettaenz4828
@lorettaenz4828 Жыл бұрын
I have always questioned the worshiping of Jesus. My opinion is that he was here to teach us how to live this life. Thank you for putting forth your research on this. I do love my creator Heavenly Father because I know He has protected me all of my life from lots of places and things that would have destroyed me. I am opened minded to listen and learn. I don't keep my mind in a box. I question everything. Thank you, again!
@SuperChimcham
@SuperChimcham Жыл бұрын
Christians have devolved Into worshipping the Bible- not even Jesus the Christ
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis Жыл бұрын
it wasnt my research, rather saying what porphery and others said about this heresy
@NoName-ex7ne
@NoName-ex7ne Жыл бұрын
Sus in latin translates as?
@SuperChimcham
@SuperChimcham Жыл бұрын
@@off6848 what language did Jesus speak?
@SuperChimcham
@SuperChimcham Жыл бұрын
@@off6848 what language is the Bible written in?
@pawelinfiniteconsciousness3324
@pawelinfiniteconsciousness3324 Жыл бұрын
All The Blessings from Poland !!!!
@colingallagher1648
@colingallagher1648 Жыл бұрын
it is fascinating to see how the development of early christanity and early buddism often hangs upon misinterpretation of the founding prophets own words by the later followers especially in the case of aion and anatta etc etc. many thanks for this and all your videos
@hankkuya4354
@hankkuya4354 Жыл бұрын
The ancient drug use in the ritual rites during the Bronze Age is just astounding.
@josephm2491
@josephm2491 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video. The insight from these philosophers during the first stages of ancient christianity is incredible.
@martinrea8548
@martinrea8548 Жыл бұрын
I don't know about that. It's all just words to me.
@notavailable9479
@notavailable9479 Жыл бұрын
@@martinrea8548 thoughts, to words
@cj123123
@cj123123 Жыл бұрын
A very good summary Ken. The deification of Jesus was a huge mistake that transgressed the primary doctrine of Judaism-“God” is ONE (The Shema, Deut. 6:7) . Jesus was a practicing Jew, but a reformer who emphases foundational truths and always focused on “the ONE”. By saying this I’m not promoting Judaism, I just want the clarity of truth. Thank you for your wisdom Ken. 👍🏻❤️🙏🏻
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis Жыл бұрын
Gotama was a reformer Vedantist , same diff.
@terrypaul7706
@terrypaul7706 Жыл бұрын
Jesus didn’t exist it’s an allegory! Jesus means I AM! It’s awareness of being!
@MacLuckyPTP
@MacLuckyPTP Жыл бұрын
​@@terrypaul7706 It's hard to take a position Jesus never existed when faced with the ripple effect of his revolutionary teachings that helped seperate the ancient barbaric world from modern times. As per Occam's razor, you are incorrect.
@terrypaul7706
@terrypaul7706 Жыл бұрын
@@MacLuckyPTP did Alice in wonderland exist but made an impact on all children’s imagination? That’s the idea! Except what your not seeing is that Jesus does exist within ALL. That’s the story, that’s why it had such an effect! I’m saying that the story is within each individual if they can understand that it’s an allegory about themselves! Not a literal one about flesh but spirit! The word in the bible is I AM which is what everyone ever born says and IS
@MacLuckyPTP
@MacLuckyPTP Жыл бұрын
@@terrypaul7706 exactly! The story of alice in wonderland didn't pop up from thin air, it had an author who very much existed! That is my point!
@teresalenaandprincessthedog
@teresalenaandprincessthedog Жыл бұрын
Yeah you have a new video, I was just watching your video from yesterday again thanks🙏😇💙🐾🌺
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis Жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoyed it!
@pietwandelaar1743
@pietwandelaar1743 Жыл бұрын
"I like your Christ, but not your Christianity." -- Mahatma Gandhi
@robertlabarbera5546
@robertlabarbera5546 Жыл бұрын
I grew up Catholic, like many other postings by others here on your site. What got me thinking (at age 16) was when the priest told me that Mary was the mother of God! I just could not fathom how a woman can be the birth mother of all that is ETERNAL (God). Now I am more mature and understand that Mary is the mother of Jesus' humanity. Jesus also never said in the Gospels to worship Him. However, we Christians believe that Jesus' death atoned for our personal sins and that by his resurrection, God accepted his deathly sacrifice on our behalf. Thanks Ken.
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis Жыл бұрын
yes, its purely INSANE!!!
@RUMP3LST1LT5K1N
@RUMP3LST1LT5K1N Жыл бұрын
Much gratitude for the pointer to PORPHYRY’S PHILOSOPHY FROM ORACLES IN EUSEBIUS’S PRAEPARATIO EYANGELICA AND AUGUSTINE’S DIALOGUES OF CASSICIACUM
@pietwandelaar1743
@pietwandelaar1743 Жыл бұрын
On the True Doctrine: A Discourse Against the Christians by Celsus (Author), R. Joseph Hoffman (Translator) Thank you for the book suggestion, Ken. Your metaphysics videos have motivated me to spend quite a lot of time poking around in several different translations of the Enneads, i.e., Armstrong, MacKenna, and Gerson. It's interesting to see how the teachings of Plotinus compare with Advaita Vedanta. Currently finding some beauty in the following: Advaita and Neoplatonism A Critical Study in Comparative Philosophy J.F. Staal Keep us oriented toward the light.
@illpro2296
@illpro2296 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ken. You got me reading Periphyseon. May I recommend reading "Age of Reason" by Thomas Paine. It is exactly about the topic of this video which is very rational.
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis Жыл бұрын
ive read it :)
@davidbytheway-fu7gb
@davidbytheway-fu7gb Жыл бұрын
Most Christians follow the teachings of Paul who was also Josephus.
@davidbytheway-fu7gb
@davidbytheway-fu7gb Жыл бұрын
Also Jesus Christ is not the name of the Hebrew man who lived 2000 years ago but the name The Holy Spirit takes as he comes into a man as opposed to unto man(Christos). It’s what the second coming is. The Holy Spirit coming into man in mass. Not a single individual. The teachings of Jesus were a package of all the lessons in which he gathered from his travels and the faith he was born into in which he said would be added to. He simplified everything just to have it over complicated. We are now repioneering The Way which was the discipline he taught. It’s based on individual values not religious group think. I Am The Way I Am
@materiaprima6193
@materiaprima6193 9 ай бұрын
@@davidbytheway-fu7gbwhat do you mean Josephus?
@bunchofgrapesorafig
@bunchofgrapesorafig Жыл бұрын
Thank you ken for brings to our attention this Very important point..... Eternally grateful.....
@Coconutoilcrazy
@Coconutoilcrazy Жыл бұрын
You never fail to make my day in one way or another. Even the day you shared your truck was broken into. I took note, removed all tools( battery jumper etc) I keep them in a bag and bring them in each night. I am beholden to you when we hit the billion dollar lottery!
@tinwash
@tinwash Жыл бұрын
I’d be really interested to hear what Ken would have to say about the Bhagavad Gita, particularly regarding the path of Bhakti & path of Jnana Is it religion & faith vs wisdom & philosophy?
@ilovetech8341
@ilovetech8341 7 ай бұрын
is this why so many people argue that Plato was really the father of eastern philosophy yet others say he was the father of Christian metaphysics? He was reconciling both. Studying the Monad and Pythagoras tetractys is so eye opening.
@helgividar
@helgividar Жыл бұрын
One of my friends has told me that he has a strong political conviction. When we discuss politics or what is going on he reacts in many ways like a religious person. It is impossible to have a civilised discussion with him about what is going on because he always knows everything best and if you go against his holy political conviction he gets mad because he is religious.
@slackjaw4270
@slackjaw4270 Жыл бұрын
A friend is a precious gift. As Uncle Kenny said some subjects are "bear traps" worth avoiding. If you love you love your friend, find ways to return the favor. Remember, there's no cosmic rulebook that says others have to share the same outlook as ourselves. Sometimes its easy to get consumed with convincing another of your opinion or logic. Which is more important, your intellectual flex or sanity and friendship?
@notavailable9479
@notavailable9479 Жыл бұрын
theres always a way to teach: reflection. but thats up to you. a pet project
@slackjaw4270
@slackjaw4270 Жыл бұрын
@@notavailable9479 Reflection? As in look at yourself in a mirror?
@notavailable9479
@notavailable9479 Жыл бұрын
@@slackjaw4270 lmao. no. deeper than image. i meant in helping his freind reflect on their thoughts. getting them out of a loop. to me the word friendship is almost irrelevent as freindship is fickle.
@monostoryacademy
@monostoryacademy Жыл бұрын
Eventually, all saviors become the satan you have to be saved from. Great vid, Ken. As usual.
@connor1414
@connor1414 Жыл бұрын
Its the paradox of the true god and what god is turned into
@richardmccarthy9602
@richardmccarthy9602 Жыл бұрын
It is mainly the ultra-Evangelist that over-simplify salvation and ignore so much more that is involved in following Jesus.
@emitflesti-zx3zw
@emitflesti-zx3zw Жыл бұрын
OMG you are a miracle...I was in such a bad mood and you've got me smiling : )
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis Жыл бұрын
i am?
@helixreggae
@helixreggae Жыл бұрын
Lots of love and regards, thank you DEAR 🤗🌻
@LTRB
@LTRB Жыл бұрын
I see a lot of parallels between what is going on currently. When you attack some thing or SOME ONE, you give it power and the ability to respond with equal power. You bring the true allegations to the forefront. Some people still do not understand this and repeat the Trap. The TRUTH, always questioned and verifiable.
@Spaceman-jo5mz
@Spaceman-jo5mz Жыл бұрын
Illuminating✨ Was just having this conversation with a friend who is waking up from the brainwashing of religion, but is having cognitive dissonance. I will suggest the book you mentioned.
@GaryR-y4q
@GaryR-y4q Жыл бұрын
Thank you Ken I follow your work intensely I've even done some presentations on your work They were a little bit untidy my audience got the gist of it
@galacticusX
@galacticusX Жыл бұрын
You sound like my late university teacher who introduced me to the history of the early christians and helped me escape the "matrix".
@nomics88
@nomics88 Жыл бұрын
Very Very interesting stream Ken! I respect your thoughts and position. Very much appreciated.
@sweetsuccesstrading5097
@sweetsuccesstrading5097 Жыл бұрын
Take a Break Ken. You Very Well Deserve Time away from Everything, in Peace at your Cabin!
@TO-Aloha
@TO-Aloha Жыл бұрын
Ever since you recommended Uzdavinys a couple years ago, I’ve dug into his work. Much appreciated, Aloha
@jjakfamily
@jjakfamily Жыл бұрын
I've asked the same question myself. When I was a child in the 80s it was taught that Jesus was the son of God. Fast forward 20 years and every church I visited they were teaching Jesus and God as one in the same and I was left confused. It also had a hint of snake oil salesman that I didn't notice in the 80s either since I was a child or they truly believed what they were teaching back then. Once I realized that God or whatever his name is knows my heart and that was the only person I needed to convince I left church or any other religion alone. If it helps you through this crazy world then it helps you.
@mut8inG
@mut8inG Жыл бұрын
Thank you🎶💥🌸
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis Жыл бұрын
You're welcome 😊
@richardmccarthy9602
@richardmccarthy9602 Жыл бұрын
Seems that Celsus was whole-heartedly for the Roman God & Emperor & Law system. While he criticizes Christianity, his preferred beliefs also has plenty to criticize? and wasn't the Emperor raised to the utmost pedestal and position?
@tonylennon4328
@tonylennon4328 Жыл бұрын
Sayings of Jesus.Foget the messenger remember the message!😮
@Sixtus-V
@Sixtus-V Жыл бұрын
Thank you I enjoyed earring you talking about those subjects. I learn a lot. The path of the absolute was one of the originals names of the teachings of Bouddha🙏Cheers 💙
@KainiaKaria
@KainiaKaria Жыл бұрын
The funny thing is that you have Christians who like the ones back then who act like victims of fascism but are the real fascists. This is one of the reasons why I am not a Christians. That and this building their house faith upon sand i.e. belief i.e. opinion, assumption, and presumption versus building your house upon a strong rock foundation i.e. facts, sound logic, and wisdom.
@wills9392
@wills9392 Жыл бұрын
I need to read more, thats without doubt. It would be nice to be able to pontificate a well rounded argument for the Sapient Absolute or Most High or Father however one is to slice "him" It's always bothered me to no end when people try to put a face to "him" as if that's what was meant by In Our Image lol kinda makes sense that an eternal omnipotent omnipresent and omniscient self awareness would start talking to "himself" 😅. You really are a good teacher Ken showing people how to look sometimes where to look but never what to see. But that's enough of my irrational faithy ideas i suppose. There is one thing though that's stuck in my craw you had said like 20-25 videos ago that the imposition of will over another is innately evil, to paraphrase, but what of a fathers knowing imposition of his will over the will of his unknowing son so that he wont come to harm or some horrible fate? Toddler with a fork and an electrical outlet as the example.
@Slavador2393
@Slavador2393 Жыл бұрын
I love your terminology, "two legged meat suits"😂. There seem to be many two legged meat suit mushrooms everywhere. You're absolutely correct, meat puppets worshipping meat suits is complete lunacy. Damn...
@notavailable9479
@notavailable9479 Жыл бұрын
when the meat suits follow ideals its even more lunactic. take those power hungry self-destiny "green" pushers like karlschwabb, gov puppets, etc. as an example
@thinker209
@thinker209 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff Ken, the movie is Luther 2003 with Joseph Fiennes. I have to watch that one. Thanks
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis Жыл бұрын
yes, great movie!!!! its an intellectual cheesecake :)
@allanparker20
@allanparker20 Жыл бұрын
As I recall neither buhda or Jesus said any word about religion or worship. Your thoughts?
@stephenzengel6662
@stephenzengel6662 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Always wanted to know Porphyry’s take on Christianity
@thevikingofhardcheese4080
@thevikingofhardcheese4080 11 ай бұрын
I’ve been reading snippets of The City Of God by St Augustine: Chapter 7 - *How much the Platonists are to Be Held as excelling other philosophers in Logic I.E Rational Philosophy* Elsewhere Augustine writes - “None are closer to us (Christians) than the Platonists.” in his rebuttal of Porphyry’s Against The Christians.
@ltgood
@ltgood Жыл бұрын
Ive been following alternative history and there are many discrepancies with all religions. The life and times of Jesus are not found in writings of contemporary historians (Philo,Tacitus,Pliny and the Roman consul Publius Petronius)of the day that mention of his life. Where are the followers of Jesus? If anyone did what he is claimed he said there is no way in hell this place would be as fucked up as life is now. “It has served us well this myth of Christ” Pope Leo X
@robertphillips93
@robertphillips93 Жыл бұрын
Well done! As one who aspires to not only be a meat-sack, but to bring that reality continually before him, I would like to add one or two observations. Between our two natures, only one can believe and only one can do. The other is captive to its functions, including the intellectual -- but it can benefit from the wise choices of the other. Love has created the world, and some part of the world will love its creator.
@Oxides661
@Oxides661 Жыл бұрын
the flaws in character displayed by so-called christians is certainly present today, and aparently as far back as possible.. but none are accounted worthy
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis Жыл бұрын
i just dont touch religious 'stuff'
@davidnadig9611
@davidnadig9611 Жыл бұрын
Right. Let’s focus on the hate of the predator not the prey. What your saying is in book of Matthew: Don’t go into the square or church to pray- go into a closet and close the door. Don’t trust the church. What’s the nature of man? These greedy power plays: The left side of man’s nature. But rather stay righteous as they say. Cuz every good thing is exploited for power and money. Inner peace and connection to the big cloud Wi-Fi becomes Church/ corporate religions (even community churches self-corrupt, hamburgers become McDonald’s, righteous self defense becomes MIC. Even the Boy Scouts teach great skills but require oaths and slogans and uniforms. And you can go back to the Old Testament and the allegories are the same. How to connect to source. Where’s your antenna? Gen 32:30. How to control your left brain (tithe your 10%) It’s all too simple or complicated for some of us. And that’s the point of religions or any industry for that matter. They make their day by coming between truth and each individual. So the people you’re criticizing are mostly victims trying to get by. We are all flawed and at times end up aggregators of money or power, whether it be legit or illegitimate business or special knowledge or flat out fraud. Thanks for the insights and more new reading for me.
@Espanol-Spanish
@Espanol-Spanish Жыл бұрын
I study theology in 2013. I was raised as a Catholic then I become Protestant but then I realised it was something wrong. When I understood that religion was not good I left church in 2015. However, I was looking for the real “God” and when I found Metaphysics through your videos I love it. Thanks ❤
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis Жыл бұрын
well hugs to you gerl! Maybe read some Meister Eckhart or Jacob Boehme, or plotinus :)
@douglasalfseike3867
@douglasalfseike3867 Жыл бұрын
Who backed or funded the religiouscity of of Hermes? The Emerald Tablet struck a chord! Where falls the footsteps of the master, ears open wide! I know your a ham - ER, and know a bit about antennae. I watched the UFO Congressional citizens hearing & what I took away was I gotta learn scalar tech! My higher self decided I needed Konstantin Meyel's scalar book. The equations are over my head! Roman antennas & microwave architecture I can comprehend. God frequencies was a bit 🤔 ! The scalar antenna 📡 from the crop "circle" response from the Arecibo antenna! How to transmit & receive scalar transmissions? How is it done?
@MychelleSeymourHeyyouremember
@MychelleSeymourHeyyouremember Жыл бұрын
I guess I'm not allowed to make comments cuz it's a full moon. Fyi. Says source...😔
@unspoken5699
@unspoken5699 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis Жыл бұрын
OMG, thank you so very much unspoken! big hugs and thanks!
@guitargirl7452
@guitargirl7452 Жыл бұрын
One of the best and most on point videos you have ever made. Agree with you 100%. I was raised in a devout Catholic household and had a Catholic based education. However, I had an interesting experience during a church service as a young child which I can still recall vividly. At best I can describe it as a download where I was told the service/blessing of the sacrament was not 'it.' I just accepted it and never looked back. Although I did not share this with my folks or grandparents as I would've been dragged to confession or a personal meeting with the Priest.
@renrichardson6517
@renrichardson6517 Жыл бұрын
Ken: "Belief is the plaything of children. Wisdom is the tool of the wise." Also he says, "You should listen to what Jesus said rather than deifying this psychophysical being." Very well. And here is what Jesus says: "I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to little children, for such was your gracious will." You listen to what the oracles said to Porphyry about Jesus, including Hecate, goddess of witchcraft and necromancy, but do not listen to the words of Jesus himself, contrary to what you say one should do concerning him.
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis Жыл бұрын
i said nothing against the TEACHINGS of Jesus, so you didnt listen
@DrummerJay74
@DrummerJay74 Жыл бұрын
Jesus said we are all gods. Not our ego but our true self.
@thomasmaglione9252
@thomasmaglione9252 Жыл бұрын
Ken, My grandfather was blind, my older brother also blind, doctors told me decades ago I was going blind. My family still tells me I can't say Jesus gave me my eyesight, my older brother called Jesus a fairy tale, I call Him God. The "Wise" leaders of this world follow your Jesus, my Jesus called it the blind leading the blind.... What good is a God that you need to do more than just believe?
@criticaloptimist7961
@criticaloptimist7961 Жыл бұрын
Read what Jesus says in the Gospels closely, and pray for understanding. He does not teach a simple faith doctrine at all.
@thomasmaglione9252
@thomasmaglione9252 Жыл бұрын
Like He told the blind people, as per your Faith, let it be done. @@criticaloptimist7961
@shawnmccormick6381
@shawnmccormick6381 Жыл бұрын
You get on your knees for some guy you think is a God. Dude, get a room.
@lifeinthemix
@lifeinthemix Жыл бұрын
This is what folks need to absorb...
@psychesonic1
@psychesonic1 Жыл бұрын
Have you read Johann Kepler? HILARIOUS. Perhaps you could have a chat about him sometime.
@manchestersoulradio1424
@manchestersoulradio1424 Жыл бұрын
Well done, excellent
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis Жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@BenjaminOrthodox
@BenjaminOrthodox 11 ай бұрын
Interesting topic! 19:00 sola fide is a protestant (modern) invention, the early Church Fathers taught faith + works, as seen in the Book of James.
@richardcroft5980
@richardcroft5980 Жыл бұрын
Don't see where choice factors into this. Expression of volition in selection is 'natural law' requirement for relationships. It can't just be a smooth function.
@mikepreston8135
@mikepreston8135 Жыл бұрын
It appears there has been a tremendous discovery of a superconductor that works at ambient temperature called LK-99.
@Slickboot21
@Slickboot21 Жыл бұрын
Paul Wallis -- Did Jesus Worship YHWH? A question that has plagued me for decades. Wallis' explanation answered that for me. I suspect ENKI may be involved in this explanation; but, that's just me.
@Slickboot21
@Slickboot21 Жыл бұрын
Salvation from what? I never figured that out, either.
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis Жыл бұрын
from embodiment and ignorance
@aca4376
@aca4376 Жыл бұрын
From death and evil.
@Slickboot21
@Slickboot21 Жыл бұрын
@@KenTheoriaApophasisOh. I guess that's why I never figured it out.
@thewinter7760
@thewinter7760 Жыл бұрын
Did early Christianity or platonism ever spread to the non Indian east? If not, why? Are there any eastern platonic philosophers that are not indian?
@criticaloptimist7961
@criticaloptimist7961 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Syriac Christianity. Manichaeism in particular was a blend of Buddhsim and Zoroastrianism with Christ. These groups were, through conspiracy imo, persecuted and suppressed by the Roman Empire Church and ultimately wound up integrating into the new religion of Islam. Look for Sufi Arabic Neoplatonist philosophers. But further east than that you wouldn't find much as it is already saturated with this philosophy in its own form. Some scholars argue that all platonism comes from the East to begin with.
@johnpap804
@johnpap804 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for that!I had read this book many years ago in Greece I didn't expect anyone to talk about this in youtube. The neoplatonism was something else nearly perfect,iamblixos I think it is,that said that Plotinus had four times reached,theosis,θέωση,one with the God. Amazing book:-)
@johnpap804
@johnpap804 Жыл бұрын
It is Λόγος αληθής κατά χριστιανών , truthful word against the Christians.The book's name.
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis Жыл бұрын
Iamblichus , yes
@slackjaw4270
@slackjaw4270 Жыл бұрын
Hi Uncle Kenny, why would neoplatanists have issue with a divine source manifesting in the physical world and vice versa? Is there a cosmic rulebook? Or is this based upon deduction somehow? Also, faith might seem anti intellectual or easy to some. Faith as a verb is anything but easy. Even Jesus was amazed at the faith of a pagan, Roman centurian in his Father.
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis Жыл бұрын
no, they would have no issue with same.
@smilehunter2138
@smilehunter2138 Жыл бұрын
FUN Fun fun I Love a good rant! There's noone better. Facts matter; keep up the greatwork.
@smilehunter2138
@smilehunter2138 Жыл бұрын
I'm polluted. (lol politics) contaminated.(lol inoculated) etc I'm so far gone I sometimes try to get unpolluted by means of osmosis.
@smilehunter2138
@smilehunter2138 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how many times KZbin will let me reply to myself?
@smilehunter2138
@smilehunter2138 Жыл бұрын
I'm not very religious but I know basic Civics; 🎶 Love and Marriage 🎶 The Constitution and the Bible 🎶 You can't have one without the other 🎶 Jus'Sayn'
@smilehunter2138
@smilehunter2138 Жыл бұрын
I suppose that when you die and have the (insert word) to present yourself before God. You win.
@smilehunter2138
@smilehunter2138 Жыл бұрын
What I often think is: more like this man. 24:35
@Smoke_DMT
@Smoke_DMT Жыл бұрын
PLEASE DO ONE ON THE GNOSTICS AND THE ARCHONS
@lorenpriest7604
@lorenpriest7604 Жыл бұрын
I just had to read the comments on this one!!!
@sadmose1993
@sadmose1993 Жыл бұрын
I was in Rome this week. Incredible city. if there's a hell spawn or demon portal to earth it definetly is the Vatican.
@owlstarvideos
@owlstarvideos Жыл бұрын
Well put ken, good video
@NoName-ex7ne
@NoName-ex7ne Жыл бұрын
Aristotle had the right idea...shame he met plato
@papumerta5013
@papumerta5013 Жыл бұрын
Tbh looking at it how godgevlambste looks at it, it just makes sense. Electrical parasitic universe.
@galacticusX
@galacticusX Жыл бұрын
Funny, but sadly necessary to clarify it's about Martin Luther and not Lex Luthor.
@bigLabowski
@bigLabowski Жыл бұрын
KEN THANKS FOR SHARING . what do you think this means ; Jesus believed He is Equal with God Philippians 2 : 6 6 Who (Jesus), being in the form of GOD, thought it Not robbery to be EQUAL with GOD: the Jews also believed that Jesus claimed to be Equal with God John 5 : 18 18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but SAID also that GOD WAS HIS FATHER, making Himself Equal with God. (DOES THIS OFFER A PERSPECTIVE REGARDING THE VIEW OF THE NEOPLATIONIST ?) 1 Corinthians 1 : 18-24 Christ the Power and Wisdom of God 18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written: “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, And bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.” 20 Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. 22 For Jews request a sign, and Greeks seek after wisdom; 23 but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a stumbling block and to the Greeks foolishness, 24 but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. THE ROMAN CATHOLICS WHO MAKE IDOLS , NOT CHRISTIANS Leviticus 26:1 26 Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the Lord your God. THIS IS JUST MY OPINION OF YOUR OPINION . HAVE A GREAT DAY AT THE FARM FRIEND !
@bigLabowski
@bigLabowski Жыл бұрын
John 14:6 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. SEEMS TO ME THAT JESUS IS EITHER A LIAR LUNATIC , OR JESUS IS LORD KEN IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY READ THIS YOU MAY FIND THIS ENTERTAINING : C.S. Lewis's trilemma : C.S.Liar-Lord-or-Lunatic Argument (Lewis's trilemma is an apologetic argument traditionally used to argue for the divinity of Jesus by postulating that the only alternatives were that he was evil or mad)
@frankraw9991
@frankraw9991 Жыл бұрын
I read that the word religion means re connecting to the spirit (World). The Latin word lig being used in the word ligament ie connecting fibre. So what is ion in this context? Where is ion? The ionosphere? Spiritualists know (not believe) that inTACT personas can be CONtacted by spirit mediums. The initiation of the contact being motivated by the persona on the 'other side'. I am wondering about the practicalities of Ascention to 'Heaven' or 'Descent' into Hell. Is it a morality question influencing our ions? or can we be Practically Doomed by, say being injected with the heavy metals in a pharmaceutical product? Would be a good reason not to have the recent jabs and boosters. My last flu jab was back in Winter 2019.
@stephenconliffe6575
@stephenconliffe6575 Жыл бұрын
Hi Ken...as a catholic I love Jesus... Even tho you may think Our blessed lord is a psycho physical meat suit..my desire is unity with him for the coming if the kingdom of the blessed Trinity on Earth in non duality. Through unity... I am the living bread which came down from heaven. 52 If any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever; and the bread that I will give, is my flesh, for the life of the world. 53 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying: How can this man give us his flesh to eat? 54 Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you. 55 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day...doay rhemis .. Pax
@Anteros_Fedya
@Anteros_Fedya 7 ай бұрын
Thankyou for the video! It was very interesting. I disagree with a couple of points. The “diefication of the meat sack” is quite an over simplification of what the early Church fathers preached. In fact, that is exactly the heresy of Appolinarius which was condemned. I also disagree that 99% of Plotinus is present in Christian thought. There are many key differences which are completely irreconcilable with neoplatonism. For example, creation ex nihilo, creation being separate from God. The Early church always strived to underline the non-pantheistic views of Christianity. Also, I disagree with the attempts at trying to differentiate Christ with Christians. It is quite evident that Christ himself did in fact teach that he is God, and the only way for people to reach God is through him. (In short, without the details). My view is that Early Church thought is actually quite intellectual and delves quite deep. I would agree that there is neoplatonic influence, but only in the sense that the Church fathers appropriated terminology and neoplatonic models (where applicable) to communicate their ideas to the “rational” and philosophical audience. For example, how the Cappadocian fathers used Porphyrus’s interpretation of Aristotelean categories in their defence of the Holy Trinity. I also sense in the video that there is quite an emphasis on relying on our own “intellectual” ability rather than belief. Your are completely right in that Christianity goes against this, but not without good reason. Instead of seeing this as “irrational” or “dumb”, this can be seen as a means of humility. It would be quitter rational in fact to trust salvation to God rather than to our own means and devices, since we see that we are powerless. Therefore I make the point that religion is not as stupid or irrational as it would seem. For more detail on this subject, I would refer to the Triads by St Grigory of Palamas who explores this in great detail, especially in his polemics against Barlaam of Calabria. (Regarding intellectualism). And ofcourse, all the polemics against the Gnostics in the early Church. The position you seem to express in this video seem quite similar to me to what the gnostics preached. I would like to ask, are you acquainted with the works of the early Church Fathers? For example on the Incarnate word by St Athanasius. I believe this should definitely dispel the belief of the “diefication of a meat sack”. And in more detail, the works of St Kyrill of Alexandria. Thankyou sir and have a good day!
@evo1ov3
@evo1ov3 8 ай бұрын
Damn I came to tha samet conclusion the other day about the Roman Emperors.
@unspoken5699
@unspoken5699 Жыл бұрын
Thank you ken! Absolutely beautiful video. A lot of modern people might be very very offended by what(TRUTH) is said in this video 🤦. 🐒❤🧭
@scottbonata5145
@scottbonata5145 Жыл бұрын
You have touched a problem I have that Jesus let's the world suffer, but It's all God's will. Do you remember Him?
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis Жыл бұрын
"gods will" is a very very very ancient premise thats 100% misunderstood.
@richardmccarthy9602
@richardmccarthy9602 Жыл бұрын
Far too many want no suffering whatsoever.
@davidbytheway-fu7gb
@davidbytheway-fu7gb Жыл бұрын
Most Christians follow the teachings of Paul who was also Josephus.
@countvanbruno182
@countvanbruno182 Жыл бұрын
Christianity thrived in a declining society. Platonism thrived in an ascendant society. The 2,000 year conflation of Logos with Jesus needs to be overcome.
@shin_0b_i
@shin_0b_i Жыл бұрын
The only purpose of religion is to maintain localized social cohesion. The religion can be cultural, historic or ideological. The power hierarchies and dynamics are similar to any other system of human control, they play on the same vulnerabilities of human psychology and they present stern resistance against any pushback to the status quo (which is the power hierarchy). The majority of humanity (past, present and future) will gravitate towards such control systems because life is hard and the path of least resistance leads readily to the basic human condition, i.e. slavery and suffering. And since the majority of people don't want responsibility (freedom) and also have very low pain tolerance, they will readily abdicate any agency they possess for the comfort of belief. Also, religions are engineered for the lowest denomination of people (retards), which is also the most common denomination. Hence all religions promise worldly things (money, romantic affection, children etc.) to people who pray using the specific guidelines established by that particular brand of human mental slavery.
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis Жыл бұрын
all true
@jesterprivilege
@jesterprivilege Жыл бұрын
What is an uncontrolled system?
@TheGabaly
@TheGabaly Жыл бұрын
Well said, really good description of religion
@notavailable9479
@notavailable9479 Жыл бұрын
@@jesterprivilege tribalism and nomadicism.
@notavailable9479
@notavailable9479 Жыл бұрын
the of the underlying, that deep "feeling" during reflection, still exists. its undeniable. does one need religion to access that place thing whatever it may be. can it be ignored.
@suino1433
@suino1433 Жыл бұрын
Christian faith is not mere belief - it is belief in love. The dictionary tells us that love is two persons, noun and verb. That is two persons, not two loves - it is two persons, but only one love. It is the nature of Unity to be one. We may be aware of that nature active in the world. Another word for noun is name, and another word for verb is word or act. The name of love is the first person of love. The act of love or the act of creation is the second person of love. The nature of Unity is the third person of the unity of love. Unity is Trinity.
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis Жыл бұрын
trinity is ancient, and not created by Xtians
@suino1433
@suino1433 Жыл бұрын
@@KenTheoriaApophasis The trinity is not created; the trinity is the creator.
@NoName-ex7ne
@NoName-ex7ne Жыл бұрын
Dionysus...god of wine and entertainment(go into/raid/the mind)...is what 'man' worships
@NoName-ex7ne
@NoName-ex7ne Жыл бұрын
Oh...and 'woo man'
@nowell.428
@nowell.428 Жыл бұрын
The early Christians referred to themselves as followers of the way, which is strikingly similar to the Tao. Also, James was at odds with Paul and his do nothing / believe doctrine; show me your faith without works and I'll show you my faith through works. The Logos made flesh. It's not the meat suit that was important, but it's incarnating holds significance. In the beginning was the word, and the word was with G_D, and the word was G_D can be translated as, within the first cause lies the principle of order. (I might be a little off on the recall of that translation).
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis Жыл бұрын
modern christians worship the meat suit, most of em
@nowell.428
@nowell.428 Жыл бұрын
Orthodoxy is still much closer. Especially Mt Athos
@Unutter8ball
@Unutter8ball Жыл бұрын
maybe we should start becoming comfortable with the label ~heretic~.
@ronkeely909
@ronkeely909 Жыл бұрын
Growing up in a christian home, I was always skeptical mainly because people are so flawed and fallible. I let go of religion in my thirties and it was a struggle to let it go fully. I ponder what we are and if theres something beyond death, but im sure religion has it wrong.
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis Жыл бұрын
and skepticism is NO refuge either
@ronkeely909
@ronkeely909 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to think I have a healthy skepticism. I'm trying to follow your teachings but don't understand fully metaphysics.
@allanparker20
@allanparker20 Жыл бұрын
And the same of all great speakers. Were they not all killed and captured by the political narrative?
@AtommHD
@AtommHD Жыл бұрын
Secularised metaphysics that was plagiarised by the ptolemies using ancient wisdom and teachings from Kemetians, combining Ma'at, Auset, Heru, Asur, Tehuti, Ptah, Imhotep, Tut Moses etc. Which lead to the greeks creating their own pantheons (Serapis - Etc) based on Egyptian culture and metaphysical principles. This lead to the Septuagint - Precursor to the Bible that was told in story form by hermetics without a primer for the masses.
@antedeluvian7518
@antedeluvian7518 Жыл бұрын
Christianity is Buddhism in new clothes. The main sources for the New testament are two sutras in sanskrit.
@anissah161
@anissah161 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Ken. It's all truth to my ears few understand my views and church goers don't like what I say. I appreciate the access to info hard to find.
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis Жыл бұрын
hey there anissa
@ryanlerouche5122
@ryanlerouche5122 Жыл бұрын
I and the Father are one. I am in him he is in me. And I am in you. He claiming in union with the father. He praises the father as the father praises the son. In union. Two became one flesh like a man in women. Or echod
@sirbaronvoncount4147
@sirbaronvoncount4147 Жыл бұрын
No offence to my Christian brothers and sisters I have many fiends and family who profess the faith and are good people. My issue with Christianity is the character of Jesus. The bible states “worship God and put no idol or other god before them” then they plunk Jesus down and say “no man can get to me except through him” and I find it contradictory. Seems like a great way to divert worship, and the energy from prayer, from the ultimate creator God and give it to a lesser god. We know man has messed with the scriptures and while no one can deny that we have a creator it is somewhat easy to question the existence of Jesus. Because we can never know with 100% certainty I recognize the creator God as the ultimate source. The bible is channeled information and as recently as less than 100 years ago with the discovery of the Nag Hammadi writings we can see that important writings have been left out and the 66 books we are given are heavily edited and no doubt manipulated to serve someone’s agenda. I mean do you trust Royal families? King James put the New Testament together. In my mind God is the creator and Satan (one of his creations) is currently running this asylum. So the Royal families are his management team and they give us Jesus instead of the creator God to worship. That makes more sense to me. How could Jesus have died for sins that have not been committed? And if the debt of sin has been paid in advance what motivation is there to be a good person? The debt is paid right? Just a few thoughts on the topic
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis Жыл бұрын
nods head.
@markwaki3950
@markwaki3950 Жыл бұрын
A meat suit having total dominion over life and death is arguably much more than a mere mortal. Without the resurrection, Christianity doesn't exist. One need only produce the dry bones and he wins hands down. Fortunately for Christians however, Jesus doesn't have any last hours... Joh 10:32-33 KJV Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. At least the Pharisees didn't even pretend to like or respect Jesus. That's a better stance than that of all the cherry pickers who think Jesus is so cool, only until he claims to be the logos.
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