Easiest Mistweaver Monk Build for M+ (11.0.7) - Fully Ranged, No Fistweaving!!

[@dienstagfpv4248]

Thanks for the build! Mistweaver has such a variety, i cant decide what to play.

[@willgoodey9570]

This is a great build for pugging in. I like your very sensible point that pugs don't know you, they don't necessarily trust you so slam them with healing, make them feel comfortable, okay so going above 11s or 12s this doesn't hit the high notes of damage but you're not going to be accused of not healing enough and honestly, it makes people happy to feel safe. If you are pugging higher than 12s then good luck to you. :p

[@silversurfer_gaming]

Thank you for this, I’m a caster mistweaver from the very beginning. I’ve tried fistweaving but just can’t get my keybinds and addons to work with it. I’m glad to see cast healing is still viable

[@voopie123]

i most say this build is super comfy, just tested it out on my low geared monk and i can do 5-6 keys with 580 ilvl with this build and its super cool! thanks a lot!

[@notSachy]

Happy you like it :-))

[@dhakra92]

Hell, yes! Thanks for the input. Since the end of MoP, I hate playing the "new" Meele Monk Fistweaver thing, but I actually love playing Monk...so I'll be kinda exited to try this and feel more like a MoP'ish version of Monk again. 👍 I totally missed the buff to Rushing wind kick! 🫣

[@JoPOW7]

Dude I tried this build and am having so much fun with it. I like both this and fistweaving, but the "uh oh" ramp on this is a blast, and the single target healing/DR is WAY stronger for those moments you're with a Pala tank who has just zugged the meta tank without learning how to play it. Subscribed and really hoping you do a S2 update for this!

[@notSachy]

I plan on continuing to play mistaeaver next season so I’ll keep up! Glad you found some enjoyment from this :-)

[@JoPOW7]

@@notSachy I'm not sure if you do raid also, but I'm thinking of using MW next season for both M+ and raid, so I'd be interested to know what changes you'd make (if any) for a raid healing variant too.

[@notSachy]

This video was originally 45 minutes, and had both the beginner & build-specific stuff in one. But I thought that was too long. Will try to make the beginner version in a timely manner but these take ages to get what I'm saying right. If you have any questions or criticism for this build let me know. I wanted to make this video at the beginning of November but I had to digest a few hundred more keys across live/tourney realm to really settle on this build. Ran it through 15 & 16 Necrotic Wake on TR earlier in the month and had no issues so I figured it was good enough to deploy the guide.

[@TheMeryn]

Any update on the beginner vid? Just started playing retail again after many years and I seem to be keen on MW monk the most!

[@josebravo8347]

YES! LOVE! Keep it comin! I have been a fistweaver stan FOREVER and just recently saw some traction on the caster style and WOW its so crazy, ha. So MUCH healing, and its less stressful haha -- thanks and looking forward to more

[@virtualb01]

This is what I needed to hear. I prefer caster healing except paladin

[@lesakcaleq2803]

Tried the build, love it, havent played anything else since! it handles burst damage so ez!

[@gpdoyon]

Great video! As I am only level 71 at the moment, I’ll use this build for the low level dungeons to get used to this healing style and add in ramping procedures as I become more accustomed to this.

[@981407036x]

im so sad that druids dont have options for dmg like this, but great video. We have a guy that runs mistweaving in our M+ group that is really put off by fist weaving. Some of our other guys are jokingly pressuring him into it, but he really doesnt like the melee playstyle and gets clapped by melee mechanics that he's not familiar with. 100% gonna show him this video. he'll probably see my comment, hi Pink

[@gpm135]

Looking forward to your beginning Mistweaver guide to piggy back off of this one.

[@notSachy]

Working on it!

[@Ozzyorcborne1]

Awesome vid. Ive been looking for a healer that id genuinely like to play. Was thinking of a lightsmith paladin but this looks fun. Thank you.

[@LeDamph]

hey, thx for the video :) tried this in +12 mists and cot, was blasting. Even dmg was good, like 360k overall

[@notSachy]

Happy you're enjoying it :D

[@virtualb01]

Good guide really appreciate the video!

[@nbashour]

super useful! u did a great job explaining the build. ty ty

[@moldgrim1]

Tried it. Loved it. Subbed.

[@GeorgeSo]

@IVIV Thank you so much for this. What a great guide. I'm sure it took you a lot of time and effort. Because of this video, I've decided to try MW after years of RDruid and RSham. 4 questions 1) When is the best time to drink Mana Tea? 2) If tank needs massive healing, can you clarify what the rotation is? 3) Can you have different Cell profiles per character? 4) Would you mind listing or msging me all your keybinds for max efficiency/comfort? I have some hand pain so anything helps! Sorry I know that's asking a lot. I just donated $25 for ya, worth every cent! =) Thank you again, take care

[@notSachy]

Hey glad you enjoyed it & thank you so much! Lemme see if i can help This is a very very long comment, so if it's not readable properly here, let me know where I can send it to make it better to read. I also put the entire text of this comment into this paste link if you wanna copy it somewhere else ( controlc.com/7d5273cf ) 1) Whenever you're capped at 20, or just before you need to heal and are not at full mana. Don't use it like water, don't drink at the end of a pull if you're missing mana, but rather drink at the start of a pull to regain mana + use the 30% mana discount you get from after the channel ends. Also take a sip before major healing mechanics if you are not at full mana. 2) Cocoon is first up, to buy you time. Then to max out tank HPS once you have time, soothing mist -> enveloping mist -> vivify 3 times -> enveloping mist -> vivify 3 times -> repeat. Then you can celestial conduit on top of the tank to channel the full healing into them if the group isn't injured. You can also ring of peace to make the mobs stop meleeing the tank, be careful with leg sweep since it resets all the mobs swing timers and they'll all hit at the same time right after. You cannot save a tank from a true one shot, so if a prot paladin has absolutely no buffs/consecration up, you can at best buy them 1-2 seconds before they die to a tank buster on keys 13 or higher ish. 3) You can have different layouts that you can swap between, but at least the way I have it set up, cell loads things on a per-spell basis so I have all the healer things set up then it just shows only the things that apply to that specific healer. On my non-healer classes I actually turn cell off and use elvui frames. 4) My recommendations for hand discomfort are what I use. I have a 'tablet drawing glove' which is a glove that only covers the outside of your hand and ring/pinky, to minimize friction with my mouse pad. Then I use fingerless compression glove for my keyboard to keep hands warm and I've also swapped over to a glorious gaming wooden hand rest. The real game changer were the gloves tho, I can't play without them. I also am in Canada where its often a bit cold, and I'm of the opinion that cold hands tremendously increase RSI risk. But this is a very person-to-person thing. I'd like to make a keybind video, I just think its so subjective. But these are my major spell keybinds hopefully it helps. Note that any keybind with 7,8,9,0,-,= is on my naga mouse as the closest 6 buttons. I stronlgly recommend an MMO mouse, as it isnt only more convenient but also evens out hand actions between both hands instead of the keyboard hand taking all the pain. Click Casting Binds: Left Click: Vivify Right Click: Renewing mist Middle Click: Life Cocoon Shift Left Click: Enveloping Mist Shift Right Click: Soothing Mist Alt Click: Resuscitate (single target rez) Keyboard Binds: 1: Jade Statue 2: Expel Harm F: Celestial Conduit T: Yulon 3: Tiger Palm Shift 3: Crackling Jade Lightning 4: Blackout Kick 5: Spinning Crane R: Rushing Wind Kick 9: Thunder Focus Tea V: Use for Sheilun's Gift in other builds| C: Leg Sweep (my character pane is bound to shift-C) Shift V: Chi Burst Shift 1 and Shift 2 are my trinkets Shift R: Revival/Restoral Shift T: Fort Brew Shift 4: Transcendence Shift 5: Transfer Ctrl V: Reawaken (Mass Rez) Naga Mouse Binds: 7: Tiger's Lust 8: Roll 9: Thunder Focus Tea 0: Detox Hyphen: Spear Hand Strike (interrupt) Equals: Ring of Peace Shift 7: Paralysis Shift 8: Touch of Death Shift 9: Diffuse Magic Shift Equals: Mana Tea Other non spell binds: Ctrl T is engineering rez 6 is gateway control shard G is healthstone Shift G is health pot Shift 0 is cavedwellers pot for keys, but combat pot in raid F1 is stone soup mana water F2 is mage food F3 is intentionally left blank to buffer for F4 F4 is taunt for very specific situations Hopefully this helps, lemme know if you have any questions!

[@GeorgeSo]

Hey IVIV, just wondering if you saw my comment. Would you mind answering and also giving your thoughts on this build for 11.1 given the changes? Will it still work?

[@Roamy]

Thanks, going to try this tomorrow. I really like castweaving starting to move into 10s. I've been running my own weird varient of cast weaving with Master of Harmony, big lightening heals and Sheilun Gift. I'm down to try this because I have no idea how good my build is actually.

[@notSachy]

Let us know how it works and how it compares!

[@Gnarrbarr]

Great video, I'm going to give it a try.

[@CodeCmdr]

Ohh, sounds very interesting. Although I generally like melee, it's too restrictive as a healer sometimes. Will try this out today! :)

[@christianchamp2002]

I've been a casting MW since MOP. My favorite gasket between my 4 characters. That said, I stack Crit and Mastery. Haste is the last focus for me and my heals are insane.

[@tybarberguy]

this video makes me wanna make a mistweaver im excited for the guide after this now!

[@notSachy]

lmk how it goes!

[@gpm135]

Thank you. This video makes me want to play mistweaver.

[@chemdaddy602]

I main holy priest, but I find AOE hailing extremely challenging. I’ve been looking for a second healer to play mythic plus and I love this idea of a build

[@zipitooverkill4262]

Great guide, I'll have to try it out right away! One question: Does the Elusive Mists buff also count for the Soothing Mist from our Jade Statue?

[@holysmoly427]

I’ve done one +13 and was wondering why this isn’t playing in higher pugs. I don’t feel like chiji is too low hps on any fight yet though, and usually deaths are caused by mishaps or a 1-shot or 2-shot. But if you use your Yulon build and overheal a lot, maybe you’d be able to avoid the 2-shots in +12 and above. I think it’s a fresh update to a game where the meta is set and nothing game changing is happening until S2

[@illegalotter]

Maybe a dumb question but curious how you were able to battle rez the tank at ~8:22 in the video. To my knowledge both of the Monk rez abilities are non-combat only so really curious how you did it.

[@notSachy]

Convincingly Realistic Jumper Cables, made by engineers, purchasable on auction house. The rank of the item determines the cast time, I use rank 2 in that clip

[@illegalotter]

@@notSachy Awesome, thanks! I forgot about those. Will definitely go pick them up. One other question, how did you get your damage and healing numbers to look like that. I really love how crisp they look in your gameplay and would like to change mine to match.

[@notSachy]

the font is GothamNarrowUltra i use for the damage numbers, can change it thru elvui settings but there might be some other addon to just change number font, not sure at this time

[@jsdropdabass8174]

Best build ever!!!, even with my resto shaman i cant get 2K rating with pugs, with my casting monk i get 2.5k rating in no time and easy chilling healing!!! best build, update every big patch please!

[@notSachy]

Glad you like it! As it stands I will likely keep playing mistweaver next season too, so I'll update as I go along

[@shipittttt]

If you wanted to grab Sheilun's. What would you drop to get it?

[@darcdiego14]

Sir, where can we find your main WA layout? Plus, your action bar lay out as well to see how you have your spells set up.

[@notSachy]

the main weakauras are all from NaowhUI, this video I go over how to get it, i don't have any affiliation with them I just am a user kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3jWqn1tptGcedU and for action bars do you mean keybinds? the bottom of this paste that i made to answer another viewer has all my keybinds listed controlc.com/7d5273cf if you do end up getting NaowhUI, this is my elvui profile with the changes I made, you still need to actually get the full UI package, this import string should be used after you finish the install process controlc.com/52599b7c let me know if this helps :))

[@ErickRodriguez-md2rw]

Thanks man! Love that Mistweaver has so many options to choose from. Does this build work for raid as well?

[@notSachy]

Hey, this build is not particularly good in raid outside of very niche circumstances. The popular lotus infusion/pool of mists build does way better overall raid hps. That being said, in that popular build you can swap pool of mists for peer into peace for quicker spot healing on bosses like mythic kyveza as I did in this log here (www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2LG6naYD91RpHkQN#fight=55&type=summary&source=16). this raid overall tho is very unchallenging for healers and most of the bosses just need steady hps, so even tho peer into peace gets your spot healing out quicker, it will still do less healing overall.

[@Strothix]

Finally, i thought i was the only one that actually was using a monk as a ranged healer. What stats do you try to even go for? There are so few ranged monks healing i can't find much info.

[@notSachy]

Stats are unchanged since it’s technically the same spells that are doing the healing, we’re just sorta changing the delivery method. Haste > Crit >> Vers/Mas. I’m working on a more basic video for the build that’ll talk about gear and such

[@Acill]

The import has a hero talent in red. Needs Sheiluns Gift but its not a taken talent. Can you help?

[@notSachy]

The talent still procs intermittently without sheilun. I have no idea why, but the main purpose of the talent was to give us renewing mist resets more than anything not that we really need that anyway it’s just a nice touch. You can look for Heart of the Jade Serpent in buffs on details as well as in logs to check the node is still functioning. It’s working still for me this morning January 11th

[@Zka77-e1f]

Looks interesting. I enjoy fistweaving but some encounters are not really healable with it (ahoy anubikkaj). I'll give this a try.

[@michaelandreasen993]

thanks for the guide - i feel that when everyone takes a ton of damage at once, our CDs are like 3 min long.. feels a bit off at times..

[@notSachy]

yea its a bit weird at first, the game is so CD-focused that its weird having a build where the CDs don't really do much. but in 3min Yulon + env mist on the whole group, you do about 5.5mil hps for 20 seconds as long as you keep hots up. you should only use about 5% mana in that 20 seconds too

[@Dumbledore050]

Nice guide. I think ancient teaching heals absorbs now though right? Or is it just gusts doing that?

[@notSachy]

in a dawnbreaker i did monday night, ancient teachings was not healing absorbs. so unless it was changed today thats still the case. gusts will overheal/heal people at 100% with absorbs ya. technically ancient teachings *can* heal absorbs but it requires at least 1 hp missing, so then it heals the 1hp + the rest of that instance of healing goes into the absorb. if it not working like this lmk, i won't be online to test until >24 hours from now

[@francocastagnoli324]

which Citrin's do you propose for the new ring on that build? Stat generally still focus on tempo and crit? thanks upfront! :)

[@notSachy]

Haste is king, crit is secondary however some vers is actually not bad as you go into higher keys. For the citrine gems I use the shield one, the mastery one, and the old salt’s in the last slot. However I’ve seen mist-weavers have success with all 3 stat gems and I’ve seen a lot of players run all 3 damage pros gems. So it’s really up to you and what you prefer.

[@Starduxyz]

Great vids ! @4:23, you manage to roll backwards.. how did you do that ?

[@notSachy]

roll accepts directional inputs, so you can just by default press S then press ur roll keybind. one of the many reasons you shouldn't necessarily unbind backpedal. especially useful for the orb bait in that same part of the dungeon, where you often need to roll away from the boss, but maintain a perfectly straight line

[@Starduxyz]

@@notSachy Wow TY ! I will def try that

[@MarioNeuvel]

Were is youre starting vid on mistweavers

[@choocharoo]

How does this build hold up raid healing? Well put together video.

[@notSachy]

Not particularly good for raid healing. The nature of enveloping enveloping mist builds means that you struggle to heal past 5 targets. Raid needs more renewing mist spreads and is generally a more renewing mist/vivify focused build. I’m not sure if I should make a video on raid healing since the new patch might be soon, but I’ll think on if it’s worth or not. Currently on Mythic Ansurek myself.

[@choocharoo]

@ thanks for the answer. I’m looking to learn a caster raid style monk as I just don’t like melee healing . Look forward to it if you do one . Thanks 😀

[@C4RTWR1GHT]

what does heart of the jade serpent do without sheilun's gift? also why restoral instead of revival?

[@notSachy]

Still does its thing, just less, no idea why it still procs without sheilun but it do

[@Moose1707]

i loved this guide! such a fun build. Earned yourself a sub :) Keep it up!

[@notSachy]

Tysm!

[@KungKokkos]

What's the addon with the white circle on your character tracking mechanics, telling you to dance etc?

[@notSachy]

Hi, those are the dungeon weakauras from NaowhUI. I talk about to get the UI package in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3jWqn1tptGcedU im not affiliated with them, just a user. but ive been using this ui package for like 2 years now and its pretty good

[@KungKokkos]

@notSachy Do you know if they are available as stand alone as well? Not really in the market for an UI overhaul, but I like that aura :) cheers!

[@francocastagnoli324]

Thanks for the Vid! I'm struggle a bit, as englisch is not my native language. how you keep so many "renewing mist" up? Most time I'm happy to have 2-4 up, never had 5 at same time. thanks upfront! :)

[@notSachy]

Hello! remember enveloping mist and rushing wind kick each cast a free renewing mist. So when you need to heal a lot there should automatically be 5 on the group during high healing periods. Outside of that simply by using wind kick + renewing mist on cooldown should maintain about 4-5 at all times on the group. It’s ok if they drop off when you don’t need to heal.

[@francocastagnoli324]

@@notSachy worked so far, getting used to it. can you also tell me how to extend the duration? Thundertee anmd kick seems to extend it, but not the healbonus duration, just the normal renwal mist Heal. thanks!

[@notSachy]

the heal bonus duration can't be extended, that only works on new applications. wind kick will extend the renewing/enveloping mist HoTs tho (and by extension it'll extend the enveloping mist heal bonus). In times of very heavy healing, maintaining enveloping mist on the party will reapply renewing mists and that is how you 'extend' the healing bonus. hope this makes sense, let me know if it doesn't :D

[@philipbradford9135]

If the red node wasn’t bugged, would you change the build at all to use gift to get the benefits from the red node?

[@notSachy]

Maybe? I’d have to play without the bonus CDR from that node to see how it feels. Every Tuesday I check to see if they’ve fixed it and they just don’t lol

[@philipbradford9135]

What’s is actually bugged from it? I’m not noticing any faster cooldown on any of those spells? Is that not the case?

[@notSachy]

as long as you track the buff you'll see it popping up giving you accelerated CDs on those spells. it's proc'ing based off of time, not based off of sheilun's consumption

[@notSachy]

you can also check details/logs after a key, or boss fight for the uptime

[@philipbradford9135]

Oh I see that makes more sense

[@jpvert5511]

cool build but how do you play with those extra dark frames lol that would throw me off

[@notSachy]

it makes more sense when you know my "dead" frames are blank frames with the word D E A D. but the logic is that if someone is at full hp their frame might as well be invisible to me. so when the group is full hp my screen is the darkest, but as people lose HP the frames get brighter and brighter to grab attention from my peripheral vision. Also helps me in being 100% certain that someone is at full HP for an incoming mechanic, as opposed to if full was green, or class color. especially when you have monk-colored frames, with a poison dispel, its like is that person at 60% hp or are they a monk or are they a rogue with a poison debuff xD

[@dreammoon4]

good alternative build but if you wanna use full potential of mistweaver you have to play fistweaving for sure👍🏻

[@alexanderfedorov7284]

this build is awesome! thank you so much, you could heal almost all pug group no matter what

[@olzenkhaw]

castweaving is really the easiet way and safest way to heal thru most M+ dungeon even with low gear. Anyway, it is just almost same with raid build.

[@Nicolae94]

I m new to MW but just asking why we play Restoral over Revival? tnx in advance

[@notSachy]

Basically if there are magic dispels that it would be bad to dispel at a random time, you run restoral. A good example of this is first boss in stone vault, if you dispel the tank debuff at a bad time you can end up wiping the group. So you don’t want to have to worry about pressing a panic heal revival then accidentally dispelling the tank. Also in raid, revival usually doesn’t work too well with raid debuff dispels since most dispel mechanics do not want everyone to be dispelled at the same time, that’s why we’d run restoral there so we just use it like a big heal and ignore the dispel part with no worries. An example of where revival can be good tho is on a boss like the 2nd boss in City of Threads that’s puts a hard hitting DoT on the entire group, revival not only heals everyone up but also cancels out that dot entirely. First boss in city of threads it can be nice to double dispel the debuffs as long as you communicate with the group. But yea TL;DR we take restoral so we don’t have to worry about mistaken magic dispels. Then we take revival if we specifically need the magic dispel portion, but default back to restoral. You can often times heal up things if you don’t have the revival dispel, but accidentally pressing revival in a bad fight/dungeon time can be way more detrimental.

[@Nicolae94]

@notSachy wow tnx for taking time for such a detailed explanation!

[@codycurtin2295]

Awww man fistweaving so fun tho :(, glad range healers finally got their time i knew people were frustrated beign forced to fist weave

[@wscheil]

Nice Video, can u share the Code for UI ?

[@-TyTy]

Hi there. Can anyone tell me what that mythic timer is under? New to addons and currently it's mixed in with my minimap D:

[@notSachy]

WarpDeplete!

[@Aiondaman]

stat priority for this build?

[@notSachy]

Haste > Crit >= Vers > Mastery

[@Ricozayyy]

Heyy can you make a guide for raids next?? :)

[@ernamal88]

This is basically close to the raid build

[@Brainman234]

the problem is monk is listed as MEELE so you cant bait any ranged mechanics and will get any and all meele mechanics in a dungeon....

[@notSachy]

Not sure I understand, can you give me some examples of melee mechanics in the current dungeon pool that would be made harder by playing this build?

[@Heyitsfreddy]

Finnnnallly. Someone who gets it

[@Twin512bass]

How well would this work with MoH Hero tree?

[@notSachy]

Rushing wind kick is not treated like RSK by the talents in that tree (who knows why) and also the loss of double tiger palm/blackout kick cleave (cuz you dont have stomp) would mean you can't apply the damaging harmony dot fast enough. and you'd also lose overwhelming force's damage contribution for the same reasons. and all of that together would mean you'd be playing heal-only MoH which is omega bad compared to conduit. I think MoH is explicitly meant for faeline stomp/ancient teachings builds, or for damage parsing by taking stomp + wind kick. so how well would it work? very poorly in my experience. but if you can make it work pls report back

[@HomeBoyJohan]

playing caster monk in pvp is absolute crazytown. Maybe trying it in m+ ain't a bad idea

[@notSachy]

how is mistweaver in pvp overall right now? i tried it few weeks into the expansion and it was god awful

[@kazuMmn]

Error ! Rushing wind kick split dmg among all adds and for me I single target hit like 2mil but when it comes to 5 targets +30% it hits 500k per target so It never can hit 2 mil per Mob ! I assume you made a vrrbal mistake Or we have changes on skill recently ! Pls replay me cuz I am confused . Ty

[@notSachy]

Yea you're right, verbal mistake cuz I cut out a part talking about agro and I said that jade lightning does about 1-2 mil per mob, and rwk does 2-2.5 spread. but instead I said rwk does 2-2.5 mil per mob xD fixed it, video will update the edit within a day or so. ty!

[@kazuMmn]

However some times like 10% of times I do 2mil per add ! O.o wiered

[@kylus2677]

i tested your build and enoyed it so much, i had still stats from fistweaving so high haste high versa, i changed all my gear to high haste/crit and oh boy i lost so much hps due to this?! first i was thinking it was just "some bad runs" but the more i switched versa for crit (now havin only 3k versa 11800 crit and 15900 haste without flask im healing WAY less in big pulls when insane dmg comes in, before with your build and versa i pulled of easily 1,8m hps whe nshit hits the fan now its only like 1,2 -1,4k if i do 20000 apm? build seems to be WAY worse with los versa compared to high versa or im doing something completly wrong. The build worked realyl well for me until +11 in however in +12 it feels impossible to heal enough, i have like 700 to 800k overall hps at the end of the dungeon but people dying to much and i feel like its because i do not heal enough

[@notSachy]

In 12s with quite literally 0 vers I’ve not been having any issues today. But I mean if you enjoy having more vers then just play with it, if it’s not broken why fix right. Can easily see 3-4m hps in a sketchy pull. And about 1mil overall on average. Also the reason people build vers is to live things in higher keys. You shouldn’t feel like you need it in 11s/12s

[@kylus2677]

i prob doing something wrong in the healing rotation thats why im losing hps, yesterday i pulled of 1,8 million hps in grim batol 11 on big pull. And i managed to time ara kara 11+++ without any death or problem. Fistweaving was 100% more stressfull@@notSachy

[@notSachy]

oh nice! I started experimenting with committing to more versatility after what you said and I do kinda see the vision. definitely less 'good luck' heals from crits, but might be more stable. i'll have to play a lot more to come to a conclusion, but you might be cooking something. i actually now somewhat think that only the haste matter to get the casts off, the secondary stat could potentially be literally anything else.

[@Jellyclaws221]

Stat priority? Bis trinkets?

[@notSachy]

I didn't cover it because every single mistweaver spec has unchanged stat priority. however I'll talk about this in the more basic video. you'd ideally like to be at ~30% haste and ~30% crit while you have flask/food. trinkets don't matter no trinket combo made much of a difference imo. I run the ovinax vaccine trinket from mythic and then my last trinket spot has been a myriad of random stuff. TL;DR just get anything that has haste/crit. stats/consumables/trinkets, who cares, just make sure it gives you haste and/or crit (main stat is obviously also always good)

[@chrisgillis4317]

Dude loving this build, can’t wait to get home from work to try it in 12s and 13s

[@kristoffermeisler3366]

Did it feel good?

[@chrisgillis4317]

It was super solid, a bit lighter on the dPS and harder to get kicks but with a full melee comp that shouldn’t be a problem

[@notSachy]

I felt the same about kicks when I first started trying to cook this one but i think maybe the skill expression of the build is knowing when to be in melee vs. when you can be off in africa baiting things like the stitchflesh swirlies without sacrificing anything but also maybe im coping

[@Ricozayyy]

Thank you for this bro, i dont see a lot of caster mistweaver. what trinkets, embelishment and stats should we prioritize?

[@notSachy]

Haste is king, crit is very good. All the embellishments are mediocre, I run ascension with the writhing armor binding. Trinkets I have no idea I change my trinkets like every 5 minutes. That being said tho, all the popular guides are in agreement about gear/stats so you can check any of em tbh, healing is very feelsycraft tho so don’t be afraid to experiment. The only unique opinion I have about gear is that the build feels best to me when I have minimum 30% haste 30% crit with haste flask & food. More haste felt to me like a waste and less haste makes you have to play around yulon’s haste which is super annoying.

[@Ricozayyy]

@@notSachy BRO omg I cant believe I just timed a +13 for the first time with this build. I did more healing and better mana consumption. I used to do the sheilun's gift build but this is way way better.

[@notSachy]

hell yea! I had faith that this build would land perfectly with anyone who vibed with the logic of it, so really happy you found some success :D

[@Ricozayyy]

​@notSachy do you have a talent build for raid?

[@KB-jt3ns]

Ive played caster mw for while. Prior tww mw player base were very toxic against caster mw.

[@notSachy]

they definitely still are, not sure why. I've found a lot of communities a very inelastic to any build that's not in their guides. hopefully one day we can sim our characters for fun-having-per-second but until then the cringe will continue.

[@FeliNyaraVT]

Omg i NEED to try it out!!! Thanks ^-^

[@notSachy]

Hope you like it!

[@smn98498h]

not using sheilons is crazy right?

[@notSachy]

Maybe if they ever fix Heart of the Jade Serpent, but it’s been ‘bugged’ for 2 months at this point I’m almost sure the tooltip is just made up. But also with conduit + Yulon + revival, sheilun isn’t needed to cover any timing, it’s like 2 vivifys worth of healing.

[@smn98498h]

@@notSachy i tried this build and im having trouble with AOE healing without CDS or vivify procs up. like on dawn last boss

[@notSachy]

@smn98498h on that boss the sprays are relatively infrequent and that’s all you have to heal for, then just make sure people are topped before the poison wave/web drops. Go heavy on applying enveloping mist, use conduit to cover one spray, and use revival if you mess up. Yulon is there just for mana management on that boss. Although dawnbreaker is actually a rlly good dungeon for long duration Yulon. But just remember, on last boss you don’t have to heal the tank and you don’t have to heal yourself. Your own defensive are enough to line up with every damage event. So you should only have the EnvMist 3 people and then vivify between them. You even have cocoon to save if you can’t top someone before the web drop overlap with poison spray in the last phase.

[@mabbus]

cell profile? :)

[@notSachy]

In the description 😁

[@Mortalitor52]

thank you so much

[@manu_5031]

your cell Profile dosnt work :(

[@notSachy]

Just double checked, and it works on a fresh install of the game as well as my main install. Try disabling every addon besides Cell, and importing it again

[@manu_5031]

@@notSachy nope. Import: Error. Same on an second PC

[@sleepy5202]

did you import on about tab?

[@notSachy]

ok i've deleted the paste link, and reuploaded, when you get a moment lmk if it works. link in description and here: controlc.com/33cab819

[@manu_5031]

@@notSachy works now - TY

[@unbekannt2898]

why are all guides on wow head whitout soothing mist?I haven't played monk heal for a long time and I'm totally overwhelmed. guides on KZbin are explained much too quickly. It's very difficult for newcomers to get back into it :(

[@notSachy]

No comment about wowhead. Do you think you’d benefit from a version of this video where I slow it down a lot and explain all the basic spell interactions of the spec? If so how long do you think a video like that should be

[@ChristophBrunner-d4n]

This, and other hybrid builds like it, are super fun to play around with but not viable in higher level Keys. I tested a build similar to this with several guild groups that routinely run in the +10 range. We started at 4s where we just nuked down mobs. Once you start pushing higher (also depending on affixes) you will put out a huge amount of healing (overhealing) but if you get in the hole you are not going to be able to keep up with the damage output. With a similar build I was pushing 500-600k DPS and 600kHPS with high burst but with the lack of pre healing into known damage output you are a sitting duck. I've been Main Mistweaver for several years. Healing is all I do. Great work on the Vid though.

[@notSachy]

Appreciate the take, and I'm inclined to agree. My goal with this build tho was to try to find a fistweaving-alternate that people could at least use to break into 11s/12s, and I think while pretty much any build can do that, this build does meet that goal and is quite fun. I haven't had issue on tourney realm trying to play it into 14s and to be honest if 15 is the limit of this build I'm more than happy with that. Ty for watching, cheers!

[@vitorfranca6904]

Finally a build that makes sense. I don’t know why they did a mistweaver to heal fistweaving??? wtf, that should be ONLY ranged healing.

[@siyoiii7709]

This is literally the opposite of making sense lmao, you can play whatever you want, but Mistweaver utility - Paralysis, Leg Sweep, Spear Hand Strike (the interrupt ability btw c: ) are all melee range (paralysis has a bit of range but w/e) and the class/spec is literally coded to receive melee mechanics. Always been this way, at least for a long ass time

[@unius2009]

MW is a melee spec. It's designed like that by Blizzard. You get melee mechanics, like other melees and no ranged mechanics. It might work but it's not made to only heal like this.

[@notSachy]

Can you give me some examples of melee mechanics that would cause an issue in dungeons with this build?

[@helenwilliamson9002]

Thank you so much not a big fan of fistweaving

[@_DarkMoves]

I asked 2 top Mistweaver Players (Megasett and that disc guy) and they both said ranged mistweaving sucks, so even though this looks really good i just can't feel like this is a good idea

[@leelangley3705]

What is this blasphemy…..fist weaving till I die!

[@notSachy]

I respect it 🫡

[@dispozablehero9829]

Cool in theory but not actually viable at the higher end

[@notSachy]

Probably correct, what key levels are defined as the higher end tho?

[@IIxVENDETTAx]

Not correct

[@CL-jq1xs]

depends on what you mean by higher end. Healer dps is often negligible if you aren't pushing past +13 or +14.