Easy-Pull Hydraulic Clutch Alternative for M8 Baggers and Softails

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Matt Laidlaw

Matt Laidlaw

Күн бұрын

Back in 2021 all the touring family Harley-Davidson Motorcycles went back to cable clutches. Some riders were in favor of that, some weren't. There are "pros" and "cons" to each of these setups. Mueller Power Clutch 2.0 is a nice alternative to provide a lot of the benefits of a hydraulic clutch while still being cable actuated. The guys at Laidlaw's Harley-Davidson install the clutch kit on the 2024 CVO Road Glide ST and a 2022 Road Glide Special and give their opinions.
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@m-motorcycle
@m-motorcycle Ай бұрын
Many thanks for the great video. We are delighted that you like our Power Clutch 2.0 💪
@MattLaidlaw
@MattLaidlaw Ай бұрын
I’m diggin’ it. Quality product. 👍🏼👍🏼
@iio58
@iio58 Ай бұрын
I took delivery of a new low rider S a couple of days ago and I had an easy pull clutch done to it before collection. Makes a massive difference and was well worth it. Much less fatigue on my small hands
@m-motorcycle
@m-motorcycle 29 күн бұрын
💪👍
@BadBlue32
@BadBlue32 Ай бұрын
I’m almost 60 yrs old and in the market for a Harley. I’ve ridden before several years ago and never remember having an issue, but when I was at the dealership sitting on a Road King I went to pull in the clutch and was taken aback by how stiff it was! No bike I’ve ever ridden had ever felt like that. I do have some arthritis beginning in my left hand and wrist as well, so this would seem like a no brainer for me for sure! Great video! Thanks Matt!
@RideFaster
@RideFaster Ай бұрын
after a few rides you will get used to it...
@CaptainRon1913
@CaptainRon1913 Ай бұрын
Dude, the new bikes clutches are easy pull compared to the older Twin Cams. My wife needs two hands to pull the clutch lever on my 1999 Electra Glide twin cam. I guess I'm used to mine with 100k miles, but I avoid city riding as much as possible.
@m-motorcycle
@m-motorcycle 29 күн бұрын
@@CaptainRon1913 Thank you very much for your feedback. We are very pleased. We wish you a safe ride at all times.
@K9RickRet
@K9RickRet Ай бұрын
I put a Mueller on my 2015 FLHXS with the hydraulic clutch, as I do a lot of low speed exercises…made a big difference on the hydraulic as well. I’ve ridden bikes with the Harley cable clutch with the Mueller and they had a noticeable improvement vs my hydraulic! Well worth the investment!
@m-motorcycle
@m-motorcycle 29 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for your feedback. We are very pleased. We wish you a safe ride at all times.
@FranBunnyFFXII
@FranBunnyFFXII Ай бұрын
I way prefer the cable clutch. I hate hydros. They're just so short in the friction range and lack of adjustment. I have a Muller powerclutch to install soon but I have a cable clutch on my Fat Boy. I LOVE Harley's Cable Clutch. Also Stephan is awesome! his video was great for installing Heated Grips on an M8 Softail, and when I needed to do my front suspension upgrade, his video was incredibly helpful. Stephan if you see this. Thanks for being AWESOME!
@MattLaidlaw
@MattLaidlaw Ай бұрын
Stefan’s Garage videos are on point! I’m sure he’ll see your comment.
@stefansgarage3014
@stefansgarage3014 Ай бұрын
Of course I see it! Thank you very much☺
@FranBunnyFFXII
@FranBunnyFFXII Ай бұрын
@@stefansgarage3014 Big thanks for those videos! Apologies for misspelling your name! My ex BF's name was Stephan, so I forgot to check to make sure you spelled it the same or different.
@stefansgarage3014
@stefansgarage3014 Ай бұрын
@@FranBunnyFFXII No problem, even Matt sometimes is misspelling it...
@CraigMack-k6o
@CraigMack-k6o Ай бұрын
Informative as always ,matt. 👍the bikes are beauties
@bikerintheblood
@bikerintheblood Ай бұрын
Thanks Matt. I'll have a chat with Stefan and how this works compared to the Easy Clutch I had fitted when I upgraded to the 131ci to match Stefan's Red Hot Chilli Pepper. If this is an improvement I'll go for it. All the mods that Stefan has suggested have been awesome. Merry Christmas to you and the family. Kevin
@briemosborne7017
@briemosborne7017 22 сағат бұрын
Thank God I own a 2016 Fat Boy S. In fact, the ABS, Hydraulic clutch, 110 Engine, and blacked-out theme were the items I wanted on a Fat Boy. I am nearly 9 K miles and I love my bike.
@TheTrex284
@TheTrex284 Ай бұрын
I put a mueller easy pull in my FXDLS with an elite moto tech lever and fresh cable all at once and it was a crazy difference, I use the clutch with one finger.
@m-motorcycle
@m-motorcycle Ай бұрын
Sounds great ;)
@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle
@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle Ай бұрын
Great video brother! Thanks for the shoutout. I definitely have to experience that clutch!
@stefansgarage3014
@stefansgarage3014 Ай бұрын
Already checking my February/March schedule...
@m-motorcycle
@m-motorcycle 29 күн бұрын
I'm sure you'll love our Power Clutch ;)
@RacerXdBrother
@RacerXdBrother Ай бұрын
That's the German thing to do. Stefan is the man.
@lpd1snipe
@lpd1snipe Ай бұрын
I don't have these clutch pull issues. Of course, my main ride is a 1949 EL Panhead with a rocker foot clutch and a tank shift. My foot does all the work.
@browngreen933
@browngreen933 Ай бұрын
Bulletproof clutch too. Heavy duty enough to pull a sidecar and passenger. 😂
@MattLaidlaw
@MattLaidlaw Ай бұрын
Haha. They don’t make ‘em like they used to I guess.
@RidingintheOzarks
@RidingintheOzarks Ай бұрын
Nice product, I am still getting use the Cable on my 2024, I did do bars and they replaced the factory cable with an aftermarket that i feel is better.
@indianbill3123
@indianbill3123 Ай бұрын
Stefan is awesome! Love my Wilbers on my 2022 Road King. the hydraulic clutch on my 2016 Street Glide Special was the best of all my Harleys. I do miss it.
@MattLaidlaw
@MattLaidlaw Ай бұрын
Stefan loves to push German made products on us Americans 🤣 Yea the hydraulic clutches on 2014-2020 were nice.
@stefansgarage3014
@stefansgarage3014 Ай бұрын
Thank You very much! Go for the Mueller Powerclutch and you'll have a perfect bike again.
@Delzona
@Delzona Ай бұрын
@@MattLaidlaw Why did Harley move away from the hydraulic clutches? I loved the one on my 14 SGS, never had an issue with it.
@Dirk1961-l7y
@Dirk1961-l7y Ай бұрын
I did it once myself with the Advanblack power clutch. I had to change a longer cable after putting a 14’ bar as well. My last bike let I fix by the dealer with the Müller easy clutch. It feels the same and is a must do!! I don’t get it Harley doesn’t do this at all bikes OE??????
@bobmcginn7417
@bobmcginn7417 Ай бұрын
The favorite German is a good dude, along with the video.!
@MattLaidlaw
@MattLaidlaw Ай бұрын
He’s an okay German 😁
@jamesspringate8431
@jamesspringate8431 Ай бұрын
I bought a $60 Pazoma Clutch Release Ramp Easy Lever Pull Kit. Much easier pull, but did not include the metal clutch adjustment piece. There is an easy pull lever you can get too, but I don't need that.... yet.
@gipsy1994
@gipsy1994 22 күн бұрын
Why mueller so pricey 😅
@mattjad3473
@mattjad3473 Ай бұрын
I had dealer put this Muller in my 2022 CVO Road Glide that has a 135 Build by Moonshine (160 TQ & 162 Power) and the pull was easy and buttery. BUT because of my 135 build the bike was creeping forward when in gear and the clutch is engaged. Just my 2 cents. I did have to go back to stock. Thanks guys you are the best. Have a wonderful Holiday Season!
@MattLaidlaw
@MattLaidlaw Ай бұрын
Interesting. Did you change the clutch plates and basket?
@mattjad3473
@mattjad3473 Ай бұрын
@ Yes to Reckluce
@browngreen933
@browngreen933 Ай бұрын
Amazing how nearly everything on a modern stock Harley-Davidson needs to changed. 😢
@FranBunnyFFXII
@FranBunnyFFXII Ай бұрын
Wanting to change something doesnt mean need. My bike was great stock, and I'd could have ridden it 100k miles with smiles. But IT COULD BE BETTER! So I made it better. Never confuse fun upgrades with necessary upgrades. The only thing I would say NEEDS to be upgraded on an M8 Fat Boy is the compensator ramp. I wish harley would make much stronger ramps instead of that cast stuff. I went with a toolsteel made one from CycleRama. No more worries about busting a comp ramp. LOVE MY BIKE, love it so much.
@Owjdnskoakansbskk
@Owjdnskoakansbskk Ай бұрын
@@FranBunnyFFXIIagreed. I have a 24 road glide and I don’t have any complaints. I rode for six hours yesterday and six hours the day before and even the saddle was fine. I still *want* to swap the saddle for aesthetics and potential increase in comfort but I could also live without it.
@MattLaidlaw
@MattLaidlaw Ай бұрын
I never would have changed it if it weren’t for Stefan suggesting it. It’s an improvement and I’m glad I did it but not necessary.
@DWRECKED91
@DWRECKED91 Ай бұрын
The only thing I would put in the category of HAS to be changed on a Harley Davidson is bars and riser. I have heard 2024 MY baggers are better than previous though. My 2020 RG and 2023 Lowrider S were very uncomfortable with the stock set up. Even that is subjective though, I'm sure there are people perfectly fine with stock bars, for me it was a must change.
@huibertdegraaf9622
@huibertdegraaf9622 Ай бұрын
​@MattLaidlaw it's just interesting that the Germans can do everything better, lol.
@adammorgan7874
@adammorgan7874 Ай бұрын
I’ve been wanting to get one of these. Kruesi and the stunt riders recommend them.
@m-motorcycle
@m-motorcycle 29 күн бұрын
I'm sure you'll love our Power Clutch ;)
@talkingrock7011
@talkingrock7011 Ай бұрын
I prefer the hydraulic clutch myself , this looks a great option thanks Matt
@MattLaidlaw
@MattLaidlaw Ай бұрын
The “feel” is very close to a hydraulic clutch and they’re very easy to pull.
@zapp5283
@zapp5283 Ай бұрын
And with a Müller Hydro Clutch its more better !
@knoxlogic82
@knoxlogic82 Ай бұрын
I will have to look into Mueller. I really like the idea of the Recluse clutch. Especially living near the Smoky Mountains because traffic can be a pain! Which with this application, I wonder if I could use the Mueller Power Clutch with the Recluse? LOL
@acim2228
@acim2228 Ай бұрын
now make one for the throttle my new 2024 low rider st is hard to crank and hold at speed because the spring is sooo tight. I come home with a sore palm and thumb. I have cruise control but thats only straight riding
@pastorjohnculbertson661
@pastorjohnculbertson661 Ай бұрын
I like my cable clutch on my 2010 ultra classic. It took a lot of work to get it just right for me.
@MattLaidlaw
@MattLaidlaw Ай бұрын
A dialed cable clutch can be very nice. I hate an out-of-adjustment clutch though.
@jpvazquez25
@jpvazquez25 Ай бұрын
Great video
@ScouserDave16
@ScouserDave16 Ай бұрын
I fitted a USA made one to my Evo Wide Glide years ago
@iuyozx
@iuyozx Ай бұрын
My Road King has a hydraulic clutch. I absolutely loathe it in traffic. My hand feels like it’s going to break after while. I LOVE the cable clutch on my Pan Am Special.
@MattLaidlaw
@MattLaidlaw Ай бұрын
The clutch on the pan america is nice.
@thakery5720
@thakery5720 Ай бұрын
There is such a thing that’s been marketed for years called Clutchlite that only needs a change of ramp - I use one on my ‘06 Sporty as the Energy 1 springplate is heavier. It works on all Harley with great results and takes much less time to install.
@stefansgarage3014
@stefansgarage3014 26 күн бұрын
But your Sporty has a metal adjuster already...
@thakery5720
@thakery5720 25 күн бұрын
@@stefansgarage3014 My comment was about the ramp, not the adjuster.
@willboyd7794
@willboyd7794 Ай бұрын
Awesome video Matt I thought it was going to be install video Maybe next time
@MattLaidlaw
@MattLaidlaw Ай бұрын
That’s Stefan’s channel. I don’t really do install videos because it’s a conflict of interest. We want you to pay for us to do it. 😁
@willboyd7794
@willboyd7794 Ай бұрын
@@MattLaidlaw Matt do you sell this power clutch 2.0?
@stefansgarage3014
@stefansgarage3014 Ай бұрын
@@willboyd7794 Yes they do😉
@stefansgarage3014
@stefansgarage3014 Ай бұрын
Me and Tom Friar (In the friction zone) will do a detailed install video end of January.
@willboyd7794
@willboyd7794 Ай бұрын
@@stefansgarage3014 Can’t wait!
@MickeyonTwos
@MickeyonTwos Ай бұрын
I gotta get mine installed!
@MattLaidlaw
@MattLaidlaw Ай бұрын
You’ll like it.
@arnesobolewski1584
@arnesobolewski1584 Ай бұрын
Thank you very much Matt 👍☺ ... And ... Hallo Stefan ich hoffe du hast noch Lust mal wieder nach Deutschland ( Heim ) zu kommen ... wir brauchen dich hier auch mit deiner Expertiese 😉 ... Liebe Grüße Arne
@stefansgarage3014
@stefansgarage3014 Ай бұрын
Im Winter werde ich daheim nicht so dringend gebraucht...😁
@arnesobolewski1584
@arnesobolewski1584 Ай бұрын
@stefansgarage3014 da ist es in LA auch wärmer 😉 ... und auf dem Bike nicht so viel ❄ nur 🍦
@davidplantz4066
@davidplantz4066 Ай бұрын
Uneven pull? That cool. Try the Mueller, it's way cooler. The Germans got custom harley sh*t on lock. Nice upgrade, Matt. It's the little things sometimes that make things better.
@m-motorcycle
@m-motorcycle 29 күн бұрын
💪
@waltersylwesiuk7563
@waltersylwesiuk7563 Ай бұрын
Oh gosh!! Hallo Herr Stefan!! Hertzlich gruss!! Hi Mr. Matt!! You both are invited to Calgary Alberta to ride the Rockies with us!!
@MattLaidlaw
@MattLaidlaw Ай бұрын
Done. ✅
@waltersylwesiuk7563
@waltersylwesiuk7563 Ай бұрын
@@MattLaidlaw Hi Mr. Matt! Thank you for your kind reply message!! I will write email to you to provide our home address, contact information to have for a possible future visit,! Our home is always open to host you all!
@stefansgarage3014
@stefansgarage3014 Ай бұрын
Done! But first the Alps Mr. Matt!
@dhc8guru
@dhc8guru 20 күн бұрын
I installed one and it’s a game changer on my 24’ RG. It’s ridiculous that Harley thinks the stock clutch pull is acceptable. They should just source Muller’s power pull as stock.
@hijodelantorchanunya1572
@hijodelantorchanunya1572 Ай бұрын
Those devices have been around for quite a while. They rarely work well as they change the amount of throw at the rod and usually result in less disengagement of the clutch pack. Baker of Bakers Drivetrain made videos about these products years ago. You might have reasonable use with the stock clutch pack but you definitely will have problems with performance clutches.
@hijodelantorchanunya1572
@hijodelantorchanunya1572 Ай бұрын
Burt Baker discuses the pressure plate /clutch pack throw / disengagement and notes his concerns with the EZ Clutch devices at the 4:13 mark. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2OWmHSuj7uKp5o I also speak from experience as I had one installed on my 2020 FXLRS with stage 2. Once I installed the 131 stage 4 and upgraded the primary to Darkhorse compensator sprocket, manual chain adjuster, metal component Clutch cable and Rekluse Apex Clutch, the EZ Clutch device made the transmission nearly impossible to shift...especially from 1st to 2nd gear. Removed the EZ Clutch unit and everything worked smooth as silk. As always...your mileage may vary.
@MattLaidlaw
@MattLaidlaw Ай бұрын
I think you’re probably right. Another commentor said his bike was walking with the bike in 1st and the clutch lever pulled in. He had a big 135 motor etc. I don’t plan on changing from the stock clutch and stock motor.
@m-motorcycle
@m-motorcycle 29 күн бұрын
It's good to be careful with such components at first. After all, you don't want to cause any damage. But I can assure you that we have sold a great many Power Clutches over the last 22 years. So far, we have not had a single customer who has had problems as a result. The Power Clutch really does work perfectly.
@mikedenney7139
@mikedenney7139 28 күн бұрын
⁠@@m-motorcycleIs it something an at home mechanically inclined garage mechanic can install? Any special tools needed?
@m-motorcycle
@m-motorcycle 28 күн бұрын
@@mikedenney7139 We always recommend having the installation carried out in the workshop to ensure that everything works properly. However, many people also install them themselves. As a rule, they all manage this without any problems. We also have a detailed installation video on our channel:
@kendallanderson2149
@kendallanderson2149 Ай бұрын
That is so amazing
@m-motorcycle
@m-motorcycle 29 күн бұрын
💪
@gix40
@gix40 26 күн бұрын
I need this on my 23.5 CVO. Where's the link to order this? Please do a actual install video. Thanks
@matthewmancill8176
@matthewmancill8176 2 күн бұрын
What is that cup setup you have for the bag guard?
@1320str8liner
@1320str8liner Ай бұрын
@7:40 what fog light setup is that?
@JackCutter-w7e
@JackCutter-w7e Ай бұрын
been using muller clutch for 3 years, all thumbs up and neve rlooked back.... in fact i can put in a stronger clutch spring Not enough credits given to Muller clutch
@m-motorcycle
@m-motorcycle 29 күн бұрын
sound´s great, thank you ;)
@TaxmanHog
@TaxmanHog Ай бұрын
Sold!
@NorCal-refrigeration
@NorCal-refrigeration Ай бұрын
🤘⚡️🤘✨✨✨
@RichardJohnson-c6y
@RichardJohnson-c6y Ай бұрын
I noticed you changed the mirrors out on your CVOST can you see out of them more clearly now
@MattLaidlaw
@MattLaidlaw Ай бұрын
It’s about the same. I just did the switch back ones to match. HD should do them from the factory.
@RichardJohnson-c6y
@RichardJohnson-c6y Ай бұрын
Thank you
@tennesseebound6597
@tennesseebound6597 Ай бұрын
Softails the same part?
@stefansgarage3014
@stefansgarage3014 Ай бұрын
M8 Softail yes, with the same results...
@thealien6900
@thealien6900 Ай бұрын
I have been unable to locate the Mueller power clutch 2.0 with the included metal adjuster. It seems like I can only find just the ramps. Do you know where I can purchase this in the United States?
@stefansgarage3014
@stefansgarage3014 Ай бұрын
Drag Specialties, put in the number of Matt's screenshot
@MattLaidlaw
@MattLaidlaw Ай бұрын
Laidlaw’s HD. It’s offered through Drag Specialties
@thealien6900
@thealien6900 Ай бұрын
@ I have been unable to locate it on the drag specialties website. Someone from your dealership contacted me after I emailed them and gave me the part number and I’m still unable to locate it. Anything I can find anywhere even though they are the Mueller power clutch 2.0 they all say it doesn’t come with the cable adjuster? I do have an email back to your dealership for pricing with the included cable adjuster and I may just end up purchasing it through you guys and having it shipped to Florida.
@임정렬-y6m
@임정렬-y6m Ай бұрын
주말 As the end of the day begins, the end of the night comes to a close and the end begins. 👍👍👍💖💖💖
@lawrencebrandt8448
@lawrencebrandt8448 Ай бұрын
that system has been out since the mid 90s,used to be called EZ clutch .
@doughuntley2974
@doughuntley2974 Ай бұрын
Bring back the hydraulic clutch!!!
@m-motorcycle
@m-motorcycle 29 күн бұрын
😂🤣
@fffanman
@fffanman Ай бұрын
Would this work on my 2008 big bear chopper with the 6 speed rsd baker trans
@MattLaidlaw
@MattLaidlaw Ай бұрын
I have no idea.
@lyndagreen6185
@lyndagreen6185 Ай бұрын
Would this do anything to your warranty?
@MattLaidlaw
@MattLaidlaw Ай бұрын
Only if it causes a failure relating to the clutch.
@MattLaidlaw
@MattLaidlaw Ай бұрын
Not unless the failure can be tied back to the aftermarket part.
@jimmin9802
@jimmin9802 Ай бұрын
Supersnob!😂
@MattLaidlaw
@MattLaidlaw Ай бұрын
Total Snob. 🤓
@stefansgarage3014
@stefansgarage3014 Ай бұрын
Well, who's paying for lunch?
@MattLaidlaw
@MattLaidlaw Ай бұрын
🤣 I got you next time you’re in America.
@f.t.w1066
@f.t.w1066 Ай бұрын
Are we becoming a bunch of Princesses 👸… Seriously..🏴‍☠️
@MattLaidlaw
@MattLaidlaw Ай бұрын
I’m a Harley princess for sure. 👍🏼
@rnich56
@rnich56 Ай бұрын
Title says hydraulic clutch...but it's not.
@MattLaidlaw
@MattLaidlaw Ай бұрын
Title says hydraulic clutch Alternative. Look up that word.
@FranBunnyFFXII
@FranBunnyFFXII Ай бұрын
@@MattLaidlaw Always am baffled by these viewer comments in videos. I think people just need to learn to read better. :/
@dangon6797
@dangon6797 Ай бұрын
That one's cool for my next bike if anyone has hydraulic clutch I had steve install the recluse clutch slave for My Street Glide after the clutch feels like a dirt bike.
@ausforce1
@ausforce1 Ай бұрын
Weird how other companies can pit hydraulic clutches on dirtbikes but HD cant on a bike that costs more than a small car😂🤡
@GeemailMailboxx
@GeemailMailboxx Ай бұрын
Maybe my Dr will classify this as a Necessary Medical Device, so I can continue to ride, and have my insurance pay for the complete upgrade. 🤔😅
@MattLaidlaw
@MattLaidlaw Ай бұрын
Checks out.
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