eating MEAT after 30 years Vegetarian

[@Learningthetruth7]

Used to be vegetarian, like you. Have a huge organic garden, dehydrators, juicers..... But, I was not well after 8 years my hairdresser asked what I was doing to make my hair fall out and become super brittle. as well as not grow much. My fingernails were super weak and my vision was deteriorating. All I could think was my vegetarian diet. So, I took drastic measures and started carnivore. Within a week I had amazing energy, my digestion was greatly improved and now several months later I am like a new person.

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

I'm planning a strict carnivore in January, and reintroduced quality meat back in October. Also avoiding all the unhealthy stuff (processed foods, seed oils, non-organic veg, sugar etc). Feeling better. That's a good observation about the hair, now that you mentioned it my 2.5 month vegan experiment (with supplements etc) actually did lead to my hear thinning a little and being weaker. We'll see if it returns to normal now. Thank you!

[@akojulius3777]

Interesting... in my case was the other way around. I think people are becoming more and more liars every day or who knows what you did for your hair to thin out (cheap shampoo, stress, etc.). Once i became a vegan my long hair stopped falling like snow. Vegetarian, vegan, etc. is a lifestyle and "supplements"... always fresh and natural fruits and vegetables not stup.d pills. "Quality meat" doesn't exist. Feeding on animals fear will always give birth to diseases because the meat becomes like a poison. Sounds almost like what Donald G. Firesmith said... almost: “They prefer their meals alive and terrified, for fear is their favorite sauce.” Go and watch documentaries and see what happens with animal/humans knowing they will get killed... the difference between the decomposition smell of a normal dying human of old age or normal circumstances and one found by the FBI murdered. (i'm talking about 2 persons who died at the same time/in the same day.) I saw this on documentaries (something with crimes a long time ago) and movies like Se7en from 1995 (if i remember right) and 10x10 from 2018. Having compassion, mercy and love for an animal (who can't speak and defend itself) it's having for yourself your health, body, mind and soul. It's a win-win or loss-loss situation... there is no middle ground.

[@danieleber-xn3pr]

tell that to earthling ed

[@akojulius3777]

@@danieleber-xn3pr Is the guy your prophet?

[@danieleber-xn3pr]

no dh@@akojulius3777

[@devinstetler3612]

I have gone completely carnivore for over 7 months now and love it. The energy is smooth meaning I never have low or high blood sugar and I’m never crazy hungry except in the morning when I wake up. You will definitely lose fat and gain muscle if you have a proper workout routine. Give it another try but go pure meat and if you want to cheat schedule it instead of caving in on a sudden urge. Good luck!

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

I plan to do exactly that this January , as I'll have access to a better meat source then.

[@jaimes350]

​@@DeliberatelyDefiantjust remember when you go fully carnivore you only require the farmer to take the life of one animal, when you go vegan you require the farmer to exterminate an entire ecosystem. I have heard that monocroping kills 20 million birds in America every year alone due to all the pesticides they use, a very cruel way to die.

[@ezergilechimekazikura6855]

On the point of ethics, I would like to give the following to consider. A) We are the only species in history of this planet, who burden themselves with question of ethics in regards to food. The question then, if this conundrum aligns with reality. There is not a single creature that will actively jeopardize itself and not eat something that is appropriate to it's biology. So maybe there is a lesson to be learned. Polar bear, if it gets you, will eat you without wasting time to kill you. B) Plants, while lacking cerebral cortex and high level neurological function, evolve to become unedible, because they are as driven to stay alive, as everything that lives. Thus, if the ethical dilemma is that we go against something else's drive of survival to sustain ourselves, then, at the end of the logical pathway, the most ethical thing we can do is to give up on survival, and go get ourselves served as a meal for predators, like bears, and as a fuel for plants and soil. Survival begets consumption, and consumption begets thriving on demise of other beings. C) Suppose we all collectively stop eating animals. Ok. Does it mean they will live happily ever after? Not at all. If we won't predate on animals that we eat, nature will find no shortage of those animals, who will. D) the deeper presupposition, that is fundamental to 'ethic question', is that view of the nature as innocence incarnate, used and abused by corrupt, unhinged pesky humans. This view is badly misaligned with reality. Nature is not helpless weak or innocent thing. It is ruthless, cruel, uncaring, driven by conflict in every aspect. Herbovores are in arms race with plants. Predators are in arms race with the prey. Immune systems of living beings are at arms race with bacteria and viruses. Nature is a battleground where claw and tooth clash with scale and hide, where camouflage and sensory perception are pited against each other every waking second. It has been so as long as life forms are around, and it is not about to change because 1 specie has a funny quick of feeling empathy, actual or perceived, towards it's own food.

[@firmaforex]

I am from Sweden. The only food available to my ancestors was animals, birds, fish year around. Some berries in July, August and September, really no vegetables at all. Let's face we are hunters and meat eaters.

[@starta123x]

@@firmaforex wild food of all kinds seems to be a good key, all dependant on what the wild area we live in provides, I don't see no right or wrong diet other than wild/organic quality being at the forefront of whatever we choose to eat and whole foods, all the labels of diet types seems to be odd in itself especially when we go back to the hunter and gatherer way of life which would be whatever came first would be dinner that evening 😅 Peace and Love 🌈💚🙏

[@RENATTAPRUNEDA]

I was 30 years too like you , now I am 2 years carnivore, I feel Wonder woman now and lost 35 kilos .

[@EinfachBitcoin-crypto]

when you ear avocado and beer etc. your not on the carinvore diet so the results cant be compared with joe rogan etc

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

All I said is that those carnivore diet advocates convinced me to add meat to my diet, not to go full carnivore (yet). I am considering trying a full month of strict carnivore though.

[@loganknits]

Such an awesome video topic! I tried something similar a couple years ago (age 36). I'd been vegetarian my whole life (yogurt, cheese, and eggs mostly), and I was working out a few times per week, but I wanted to see if animal protein could help me lose a little weight, gain some muscle, and feel "better". I added organic turkey and tuna to my diet, and I tried some elimination testing with other foods to see how they were affecting my mood/energy levels. Overall, I found that eating animal protein did help me feel better and I felt stronger physically, but I still struggled with the ethical choice to eat animals. After 6 months I stopped eating turkey and tuna, but I added more plant protein to my diet. Since then I've focused on getting plenty of protein daily (at least 100g), exercising at least 5 times per week, and eating foods that contain essential amino acids (tofu, quinoa, hemp seeds, chia seeds, and beans). Those changes have had the same effect on my mood/energy levels that eating animal protein did, and it's been working for me ever since. 🙌

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

That is an amazing insight! I will return to eggs in September and see what changes, then in October 1 quality steak a week, otherwise vegan + eggs (no cheese) but I may consider more protein from plants too. Right now I do 60g in my morning shake (after workout) and 40-50 in my main, final meal, so hitting somewhere around 100g - but not sure how far I can take it yet.

[@mikebelmont5919]

I am making new muscle mass every year on a vegetarian diet, I go gym 3 times a week, count my kcal and macro, and eat a minimum of 150g of protein every day. Cutting to 10% bf every summer time. No animal meat is needed to do this. The carnivore diet is the same BS as the keto diet and other stuff that people are selling to you to gain more clicks and views, I would not recommend listening to guys like Peterson or Rogan in case of diet or health in general, they are the same kind of expert as ppl like Liver King, etc, they advise you to be "better" and then trying to sell you their bf stuff and at the end, you are without results and money and they are keeping themselves rich and famous.

[@spirulina3924]

try adding Spirulina but only from a high quality organic source in closed farming so it does not contain environment toxins.. mental clarity comes from cutting sugar and carbs as sugar and too much carbs promotes candida and fungus growth and other parasites that cause brain fog! the intestines are our second brain after all@@DeliberatelyDefiant

[@spirulina3924]

especially unripe harvested fruit like bananas and bread cut bread especially wheat bread and white sugar but even raw cane sugar better options are stevia leaves organic not processed stevia really the leaves and yacon sirup and xylitol (in moderation, xylitol is harmful to dogs careful! but fine for humans much better than white sugar definitely) eating bread is probably the worst one can do for health same as unripe harvested fruit and sugar (especially white sugar)

[@TheSpecialJ11]

I think pasture raised eggs are the way to go. Full of choline and B12, the two nutrients that are hardest to get sufficient amounts of on a vegan diet. Focus on nutrient density and the rest should fall into place.

[@georgecoyle6143]

Strictly carnivore 7 months now. I am much stronger, leaner and work-out like a champ. I''m going on 74 now and never turning back. My friends and family are SUPER amazed, some of whom are now transitioning.

[@carnivoreakita]

I'm carnivore and it took 3 months for my energy to start feeling really good. I started out on the SAD diet, then dirty keto, then strict keto, and now I've been carnivore for 6 months. Since there are no negative side effects to eating mostly fatty beef and some eggs, it's rather easy to keep eating this way. I'm glad I stuck with it when I was having some pretty gnarly issues in the beginning, such as diarrhea, bloating, and fatigue. In return for my diligence, I got rid of hypertension, bloating, 23 pounds, anxiety, and a skin issue that I had foe 40 years!

[@rashoff]

I'm meat-heavy keto contemplating full carnivore in some time. I don't have any autoimmune issues like a lot of people that switch, but the simplicity of eating meat is what I like and I feel the best I've ever been in my life at 30, so I feel that it's a great thing

[@acecow7621]

I am full carnivore and have been for almost two years. No veggies or fruit apart from the occasional pickle in that time. I do have dairy as I don't have allergies. Im in my 70s and have never felt better. I have no medication, blood pressure is good weight is steady and arthritis is gone. I'm walking between 2.5 and 3 klms every day, which i was unable to do two years ago. I love this way of life, so easy too.

[@FLNat1V]

Have been basically off and on carnivore since October of '22. My goal was to rid myself of inflammation, which would cause me to walk the "shackle shuffle" like I was in my 90's. I had heard of Tom Brady eliminating certain inflammatory foods (veggies) from his diet to extend his career, which he did. As I began to follow suit, I noticed the inflammation was reduced. I happened on the carnivore diet as I was tooling through KZbin. I think my first was with Dr. Ken Berry explaining the lifestyle and his experience with his changes. I'm full carnivore now; no veggies. I may introduce some fruit and honey a la Dr. Paul Saladino, but for now, except for a cheat now and then, it's full carnivore. Except for paying for my sins when I do cheat, buh bye inflammation.

[@honkytonk4465]

Fruits are the worst

[@christianjohann9485]

I did the same! And to be honest I felt happy to have the freedom to eat whatever I wanted without the restrictions

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

What do you mean by without restrictions? Just a wider variety? Or more volume?

[@peacebeyondpassion2]

That's the best part. It takes the guess work out of it.

[@SamuellMinistar]

Staying in my comfort zone would just make me go in circles, thanks so much for that, I really love the fact that you're not just about design and work, you also find time to talk about improving quality of life, doing more and adding value, you truly are amazing 🙌, I do eat meat, the the problem I have is most times I forget to eat completely. I know it's not cool but am not sure how to go about fixing it.

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

Yeah, last 3 years I'm more into the "other stuff" than design so this channel is my way of doing something I enjoy more, while the other one pays the bills. But yeah, I'm motivated enough to struggle with crazy stuff and keep consistent (and this diet in August is hard! - more on that later in a video too). What do you mean eat completely? Adding all the nutrients that you need? It can be solved by some stuff like ag1 or similar and then making sure you add 2-3 veggies to the meat (and no fries!) ;-)

[@SamuellMinistar]

@@DeliberatelyDefiant more like I get carried away with all my daily activities to a point that I wouldn’t remember eat any other meals after breakfast. Then I remember very late at night. Thank you for the recommendation, I appreciate. Am so glad you made this channel, I feel most people are to focused on their work, that they forget to enjoy the small gifts of life. For me I want to have an interesting life doing all the things I enjoy and solving all the problems I can. Work is only a means to an end. And yes No Fries😊.

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

No fries movement! 💪 I really think design as a skill (of problem solving) can be applied to other stuff in life - just as I'm doing research on myself that way :)

[@johnsouza5262]

No it's not organic it should be pasture raised grass fed.

[@arFredBuild]

There is no such thing as bad animal fats. The bad fats are from plants. If you go carnivore you need to eat a higher fat diet. You are probably to picky about what you eat to do well on a carnivore diet. By the way, the country of India is primarily vegetarian. As a country, they have a lot of heart disease caused by their diet.

[@AmLih-wv2rz]

I started eating meat at age of 45 due to severe b12 low level-206 and also some gut issues I was ok vegetarian(not unhealthy), I now eat meat few times a week 3 to 4 times and also have rice, sourdough bread and good amount of fruits and low fodmap vegetables added to mince and some hard cheeses and kefir, seems to be working well for me and I now do 24 hrs fasting once a week. So basically rice with some meat and low fodmap vegetables and fruits and some dairy and some sourdough bread and its working good so far

[@maenad1231]

Just one question. How is eating red meat the “opposite” of eating bugs? Wouldn’t the opposite just be not eating bugs regardless of what diet pattern you follow. My diet is pesco-vegetarian (usually vegetarian but periodically include fish) and I’m not gonna eat bugs or crustaceans either way lol

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

Yeah I mostly meant they tried to push eating bugs on people by including them in other things (in powder form) and that convinced me to start eating meat - it's usually when the establishment pushes something big time it's bad for you.

[@nickbuis3307]

Mental clarity comes when your macros are ketogenic, not because you eat meat necessarily. You can do a ketogenic diet that allows plants or go full carnivore, but the bottom line is that you need to have your carb intake as close to zero as possible. Meat alone isn't going to magically give you mental clarity, the state of going into ketosis does that. Good video.

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

Thanks! I've been in Ketosis many times (through Fasting), so I didn't mean that clarity, I meant many people talk about a similar effect coming from carnivore- but I'm not 100% sure what in that diet they're referring to exactly.

[@ciscog3600]

​@@DeliberatelyDefiantthe carnivore diet means just animal products no veggies no grains or seeds

[@off-meta-michael]

I think theres more to it than ketosis and the meat does play a role. There are essential nutrients only found in meat and more bioavailable minerals and vitamins necessary for neurotransmitters or the brain-gut connection. 5 months carnivore btw. Used to do organic and keto and OMAD and ive never had the sharpness and strength and energy i have now on carnivore

[@happyapple4269]

The only food nutritionally dense enough to support a human is red meat.

[@s7r49]

Glad to see someone open minded trying to listen to their body. My inflammation is really high when I eat plants. I have difficulty sticking to Carnivore, but I have done steak and salt only for a year (about 7 years ago now) and my health improved a lot. I kind flip flop between SAD diet, omnivore whole foods, keto, and carnivore. The less plants I eat the better I feel, but after going back and forth for nearly a decade now (I started experimenting long long before there was much info on it) its just too hard for me to stick to

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

Thanks! I've heard of cases like that, luckily for me I don't really feel extremely bad on any diet, so for me it's more about dialing it in towards some most optimal version. But I can understand the pain of forced limitation.

[@lindareidy2091]

I was vegetarian for 10 years. When I started eating meat again it was probably once or twice a month. When I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia I was in agony all of the time. A year ago I started eating meat nearly every day and the pain has been reduced to a level I can tolerate and be more functional.

[@s7r49]

@@lindareidy2091 i actually even notice even though crohns generally is GI symptoms for most people my joints feel way better when i eat carnivore. i wake up with morning stiffness when i dont so i think i do have inflammation spillover into other areas

[@Ananimous7777]

You need probiotic foods

[@2Truth4Liberty]

I went to KETOvore (meat and whole foods) 62 yr male (overweight most of my life) - in just one year 225 - > 180 and long time high blood pressure now normal ----------- No processed plants is the key (no sugar, no seed oils, no flour, no juices, etc) Whole plants low in carbs and sugars are good for you but meat (and fat like butter) as the mainstay. Butter, tallow, and bacon grease are all you need for cooking (no seed oils!) No sugar, no bread . . . might be difficult at first but eventually you won't miss it at all. As for sweet tooth :-0) . . . . I use "Pure Sweet" brand of white powdered stevia. A heaping 1/2 teaspoon make a gallon of very sweet coffee or tea. ----- Best wishes and good luck to you!

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

I'm luckily almost completely free of sweet addictions. The experiment will go on however, as I've also read "Fit for Life" by Harvey Diamond and some of the tips there seem completely opposite to many comments under this video - yet I couldn't find a lot of "debunking" of his methods on KZbin. So I plan to first go clean carnivore and then for a month I'll do those fit for life protocols. Thank you for the comment!

[@2Truth4Liberty]

@@DeliberatelyDefiant "some of the tips there seem completely opposite to many comments under this video" I haven't read it but it it leans toward KETO whole foods then I'm sure it will point people in the right direction. Curious though . . . Is there some comment of mine here that is opposite of its tips?

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

No, Harvey is about 90% veganism and a lot of fruit based carbs. And still can't find him debunked anywhere after 40 years of his book being published. It's a weird diet - stuff like only fruit until noon, but it seems to have helped a lot of people. Bottom line is there is no one diet that will fit everybody so worth experimenting with many (in a safe way)

[@2Truth4Liberty]

@@DeliberatelyDefiant "Bottom line is there is no one diet that will fit everybody so worth experimenting with many (in a safe way)" Agree completely! The biggeest thing is knowing that THERE IS an alternative to the Standard American Diet (SAD) that leads to obesity and other health problems.

[@LauraDiamondWise]

My household has always been meat eaters, but in the last 6 months we have eliminated grains and processed sugars. We are 90 to 95% animal-based, any plants we eat are mostly fruit, with watermelon being at the top of that list. Otherwise, we are carnivores, and the results have been outstanding for me. I came to it for energy, not weight loss, but I have lost over 20 pounds, and this diet has more than delivered on the energy. I love it. But, like you, I do have an issue with having to eat sentient beings to be healthy, but I have to choose health. That said, I try to remain mindful as to where I am getting my meat and how the animals are treated and harvested.

[@TRuth.T]

Thanks, for sharing. We have been vegetarian many yrs. ago. We went Keto yrs. ago Currently we have been Carnivorish for 435 days. Luckily, were grass -fed beef farmers(were in Wi. USA ;)

[@adam_moucka]

I’m looking forward to a follow up about this. Interesting experiment. As a person who exercises and counts his food it’s great to see different types of diets work. Most people have no idea how to do this right. I’m as guilty as you are, I’m not really on a diet more in a state where my weight is +-1kg the same, but I do love pizza and ice cream too much. So sometimes more cardio or just simple cutting one meal for the guilty pleasure is a must. Also what are your thoughts on cleaning your body with stopping eating the meat? How did you feel when you first did this? I wanted to do this for some time now. Not for a long time like you, but more like 1-2 months. To let the body clean itself introduce more herbs and stuff for guts during that time. Do you have any resources or personal dos and donts?

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

This month was a deep cleanse of all junk food and I know that to most of them I don't plan to return anymore. It's refreshing, so now in September the idea is to reintroduce some stuff one by one that's not "that bad" until I figure out the best outcome :)

[@paweltollik1010]

The true benefits kick in only with a strict reduction of carbohydrates. Best options would be a healthy keto or straight carnivore with no carbohydrates at all. 🤷‍♂️

[@db0ski]

After I started practicing the carnivore diet, my hair and skin condition have improved significantly. Also, I don’t have food cravings anymore, and I’ve lost a few kilos since. I eat solely eggs, organic beef, and some greens

[@supertunesupertune]

Bro...your not doing carnivore. How do you expect to get results of a carnivore diet when your still eating anything but meat and eggs? You can't pretend to be carnivore to get the carnivore benefits!

[@jeffwolfe191]

Is it really necessary to overthink everything

[@beardwaxer]

It's a good thing to understand your body and what's best for you. There is no 1 size fits all in this. The key to success is to experiment and balance. And the most important thing is to eliminate the processed food and sugars. I've been vegetarian, vegan, pescatarian...For years. Not I just balance everything and feel way better then restricting myself on one thing.

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

Exactly! That's why I'm doing that reset and then adding stuff one by one to see when it gets worse so I know what to avoid. And obviously staying away from anything processed now for good. Sugars - I don't really use sugary stuff at all, or even sweeteners for a while now, so that's safe :)

[@Kennabear111]

Thank you so much for sharing this🥰 very insightful! I’ve been vegetarian for 7 years and considering eating chicken again.

[@bkreed27]

Anecdotal evidence. I ate meat. But I also worked out and exercised more. So which one made you feel better.

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

This video is mostly about adding meat to an otherwise vegetarian diet. I believe that both of the changes could've impacted my welbeing.

[@bkreed27]

@@DeliberatelyDefiant 👍

[@DavidPaulNewtonScott]

A lot of cattle are grass fed eg Aberdeen angus.

[@SJSnc69]

If you ate fish you weren't vegetarian.

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

Pescatarian then, but I only ate fish for a couple years out of the 30.

[@oldenshort1346]

Eggs (Chicken) on bread tastes great but cancels each other out.

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

you mean empty carbs from bread or cancels out some other way?

[@kaakrepwhatever]

A lot of people react to gluten in their diet (and maybe certain other common plant foods) by experiencing brain fog. If you were sensitive to those and you gave them up as part of a dietary experiment, then you would notice more mental clarity.

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

Makes sense - my least foggy days are usually after a day of fasting, but I don't really have a big case of mental fog almost at all (I stopped drinking years ago and get pretty good sleep) so overall it was more of trying to notice small potential improvements.

[@natalie-taylor]

@1:25 ...the pizza looks so interesting! Yummmmo 😋 We do eat meat, mostly organic or from one of the local butcher shops near by. Like u tho, I have HUGE empathy for animals and wrestle with doing so. After growing up on a very small TX farm there were some hard lessons with getting too attached to the livestock. I'll be curious to your finding with your new strategy - will stay tuned!

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

Haha sadly I never had a really great pizza in Italy - this one looked better than it tasted (Sicily). My favorite one currently is in Gdansk but obviously I skipped pizza for now. As for meat, yeah the ethics are the most difficult part of it (next to finding quality suppliers) - we do have a service with organic meat delivered frozen to your door here in Poland - have yet to test it but meat is not coming back in september just yet 🫡

[@coldworld5]

I’ve just started eating chicken after 26 years of a being a strict vegetarian. I completely agree on it being hard to find quality meat.

[@eulalia3446]

I can't imagine having meat trigger the gag reflex. For me, it's vegetables which make me gag - cauliflower, broccoli and brussels sprouts are the worst.

[@navitas1]

Wow, what an amazing video! Thank you.

[@starta123x]

Just curious was the junk food you ate generic food from restaurants or was it organic? I'm going from being fully organic and vegan to having idea to eat either wild or organic meat, though I have heard that organic meat can still be vaccinated and given antibiotics in worse case scenarios, so really getting involved with the farmer directly and going to the source of the supply chain is the only key to get past the chemicals that even organic meat can still be altered, even the bedding for organically raised cows doesn't have to be organic straw so yeah the way organic animals are being raised can be a debatable scenario to be truly honest and this is where going from eating wild meat vs organic is the true question of all because to undermine the purity of eating organic veggies to eat chemical organic meat seems to be a strange concept... Though I can't dispute one person's organic growing method to another organic growing method is also debatable, for instance there's organic grown food using organic chemicals from plastic bottles and then there's organic plant powders that can create compost teas like the forests way of rain and then plants being fed to the soil like a tea but yeah as I said, how do we take it to complete this purity in terms of connection to ourselves, as even then there's water which I don't drink from a tap or plastic bottles and then there's rain water and air pollution so yeah I guess I do the best to my capabilities but I like to keep it a fine on the right rope as one can do. Peace, Love and blessings 💚🙏☮️

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

I've been mostly organic for the last 6 years. Trying to avoid non-organic, but we do sometimes eat out.

[@starta123x]

@DeliberatelyDefiant nice! Yeah it can be difficult to live fully organically but it can be done! Eating out can be a right challenge! I'm very blessed where I live to have fully organic cafe's, I don't know where I'd be with eating out without to be quite Frank! Sometimes I think about if I was seeing someone how would I get along with this as everywhere we all go has more non organic food than imaginable and in most cases it's impossible to find restaurants let alone a whole food shop! I was saying there needs to be a map for those who want to be organic wherever we may travel so it can become a walk in the park and not such a challenge to eat clean. Anyhow rant over! Peace and Love 🙏💚🌈

[@DanielleKFinn]

Appreciate your video i always find it interesting to hear peoples results from variouse types of experimentation...one thing I would float as a thought excersise in your ethics section where you struggled with "killing" animals as part of your diet i would point out that a plant based, vegan vegeterian, diet pretty much steeped in dead animals to get that veg/plant on your plate the number of animals a farmer kills whether its with a gun a combine tiller or through using pesticides ... Blows the mind ... So from an ethical standpoint is it better to source as humanely raised local lifestock as possible maybe one or two a year on the average depending upon your size and nutritional needs or source plant products from hundreds if not thousands of miles away, think avocado, that are grown and got to your plate because animals were killed.

[@MarcoOlmedi]

I would like to switch to a more healty lifestyle and reduce meat consumption and improving the quality but i can exit from my comfort zone but can't force my family to do the same.

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

My wife eats completely differnt stuff than me and we manage to coexist in the food space - it's possible, even if difficult

[@Darrinnewlife]

Grass fed and grass finished is the best but if you can get what you can get is still okay but Beef , Bacon Butter and eggs is all no carbs.

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

I'm aiming for just grassfed whenever I can 🫡

[@Darrinnewlife]

@michamalewicz9719 Here in Brazil I don't have much of a choice and the meat is expensive here, so I seem do be doing very well, and the eggs I get here are very fresh I buy them from people within walking distance and the bacon is fresh also as well as the butter.

[@jayhoggard92]

Im 100% carnivore for the past 2 yrs. I feel incredible and have no plans to ever eat anything from a plant again.

[@Livetoeat171]

If you have a gag reflex on meat, then chop it up into bite-size pieces and put an Alfredo sauce on top of it or chop it up into little pieces and mix it with scrambled eggs. Eating a giant piece of meat can be daunting at first anyway. Also mix your chicken pieces with some kind of sauce also. Don't eat giant pieces of ground beef patties. Make meatballs, small ones with lots of flavoring seasoning in it.

[@annakempinsky3825]

Me my whole childhood until age 28. 4 Generations. An 28 I became hungry for liver. Ive never eaten meat before. Why exactly liver? My body told me exactly what it wanted. But it took me 2 years to bring meat in my stomach.

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

Yeah the body is very smart that way - we should always listen to it :)

[@humanerror7]

I've been vegetarian for 6 years now and my life just got way better in every possible way after making the switch. I feel as though the universe respects my decision. I tried to go full vegan for a year or so, but found it too restrictive and I was relying on processed foods too much, so I went back to vegetarian and have been doing well. I do still occasionally suffer from eczema on my hands when I get really stressed, but I had that back when I was eating the most meat I ever ate too. I think the key to health is definitely cutting out heavily processed foods, sugar, and sweets, and alcohol, so I'm going to continue to do that as a vegetarian. I'm curious if carnivore would improve my health, but I cannot get around the fact that I don't want to support killing animals

[@cornstar1253]

Animals have no concept of death. They aren't human

[@maplin007]

Thank you for being honest, open and not biased, unfortunately not many are. I eat mainly animal based, I don't shy away from the odd meal with carbs or vedge etc in company or even alcohol although I find it has its problems. It would be interesting for us and yourself I think to do a strict meat only diet for at least a month, you would have to raise your fat to protein levels though. There are many benefits from eating meat but many find there are benefits to not eating plants. Also mixing carbs/fat/ protean in a meal has its problems and hormonal effects. There was a recent study looking at the genetics of those drawn to plant food and they found a potential genetic link, about 30% of us have that meaning 70% of us plants are not very appealing. Again thank you and good luck, unfortunately no food source is guilt free from animal suffering, also real Organic food is rare regardless today.

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

I plan going on a meat + broccoli diet for a month in January - will record how it goes :) As for a fitting diet - there's harvey diamond and fit for life on one and and carnivore diet benefits on the other end. So I think it's mostly depending on the person.

[@eulalia3446]

Where can I find this study please?

[@SwampWader]

I am going the vegeterian(lacto-ovo) for last 32 years. Those few times I accidentally ate meat or just bouillon made from bones I had severe body reaction in terms of sickness and vomiting. Never tried again :) What do they mean with 'clear mind'? A mind free of thoughts? :) I want to mention that one of the resons for switching to vegeterian was that as a sportsman(back then) I noticed that on vegeterian(lacto) diet I used to re-generate faster and I had a longer endurance.

[@eulalia3446]

It's when you can think really clearly, with excellent focus for extended periods. Your brain doesn't feel foggy, scattered or tired. It's really wonderful.

[@fiona4731]

Are you sure you have to buy organic beef? Beef that is grass fed does not need antibiotics because they are eating their species specific diet and live basically as they would in the wild.

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

I talked to a (high quality) steakhouse owned and he said that outside of 2-3 kinds (mainly Kobe) even the quality grassfed beef has growth-hormone to maximize earning. And I kinda feel weird about it :)

[@fiona4731]

@@DeliberatelyDefiant I don’t think he knows what he’s talking about. I’m a sheep and beef farmer in New Zealand. Our beefies wouldn’t know an antibiotic or a growth hormone if it hit them in the face! Honestly, they don’t need them and we don’t use them. Check with farmers themselves in your country. And by the way we used to raise Wagyu beef for Firstlight foods that was 100% grass fed. We would get a couple of calves now and again that had had antibiotics when they were little and unwell. These were tagged as such all their lives and had to be killed separately from the rest of the cattle as this is not normal. Antibiotics and growth hormones are given to cattle on feedlots because it is an unnatural way of living for their species.

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

Maybe it's different in the EU somehow, but it's good to know that there are still places that go full natural :)

[@monicaridgeway586]

Buy Grass fed and grass finished i can only get it online

[@Livetoeat171]

I have occasionally bought grass fed beef steaks and ground beef and inevitably I always go back to the regular beef because it doesn't have any fat in it or any at all and the meat is tough and grainy and even ground beef is hard to digest because there's no fat in it. So I ended up buying just plain fat strips, cut off of other meats to supplement. And I actually didn't like the flavor of grass fed beef. So I'm eating regular beef, and giving away the grass fed beef that I bought in bulk to anyone who will take it. Even my son doesn't like it because it's too tough, with no fat

[@pappasmirk.]

I'm 33 never worked out in my life just ate junk food since I was 15 and I mean junk iv never had vegetables or red meat before I have just changed my diet completely I now eat steak and vegetables every night fruit during the day and just that change iv lost all body fat I had and began growing muscle in my chest and arms it's crazy it's like im on steroids I have so much energy and I just started full body work outs I'm in the best shape of my life

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

That Fruit in the morning thing is something I plan to try too, with a similar plan to yours for the second part of the day too. How long have you been on this diet?

[@pappasmirk.]

@@DeliberatelyDefiant iv been easing into it over the past 6 months I found breed and flour products the hardest to give up because they are in everything so your body carves them but over the last month of been strict as and kept to it when I started I was 58kg 6ft 6 months in and I'm 63kg hoping with the gym I could reach 80kg

[@pappasmirk.]

@@DeliberatelyDefiant I have a yt channel myself I was considering making a couple videos about it but it doesn't really much my content

[@SilverPaladin]

don't confuse carnivore diet with a so called 'balanced' diet. They are not at all the same.

[@DerekBoldiene360]

I tired a vegan diet back in 2021. I lost 27 pounds in 28 days I was 245 pounds then 218. I then felt way better without then with meat. Though I do like meat I think fiber is what we need.

[@NanaTing-q9c]

DO NOT IGNORE THE FACT THAT PLANTS ARE LIVING CREATURES!!! WHEN YOU EAT PLANTS, THEY ARE SUFFERING AS WELL. THEY ARE LIVING LIVES!

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

Yes, they even talk but plants always have caps lock off :)

[@angelrose2669]

Meat and green ,orange , red veges , plus some fruit , grains , pulses and grains are the optimum diet for my energy and wellbeing , but I am vegan , for ethical purposes.

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

For my vegan cleansing month I skipped all sugars and bread as well, but the plan is to reintroduce some healthy options next month :)

[@anteandrovic]

Its not for everyone- that basis for the failure of so many diets veganisam is great if u are cut out for it, most people are NOT.

[@TobasscoJelly]

You look amazing for 41. Good UI = Good Physical appearance, it's hard written lore.

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

Thanks!! 6 years ago I was 100+ kg, fat, miserable and dorky looking 😂 Managed to reverse it a bit in the last 6 years through extreme levels of commitment - kind of like with design - it's either 200% or nothing 🫡

[@TobasscoJelly]

@@DeliberatelyDefiant your an inspiration dude. Top fellow.

[@afghfghfgha1631]

If yo uhave been a vegetarian for 30 years prioritize a lot fish......raw salmon is my recommendation, all you can, fatty fish Is the thing that made me go back to meat and what i was craving more, a lot of ex vegans go to carnivore and skip fish.....go for it, give i a month Also, the eggs....my recocomendation is separating the yolk from the white and eat the yolks raw.....like do 10 to 12 a day for a while And fresh grass milk from lidl Try these 3 things combined and report back....its going to surprise you what it does to your mental clarity Like really crazy stuff.....and memory, memories from my early childhood coming back vividly And its an effect that comes back everytime i do this so it really works in the brain

[@ericneering6357]

I give up weed and there’s a greatest thing I ever did. Also, I hate everything don’t matter what it is if you don’t eat me first I’ll eat it all in my whole life. I’ve stayed away from tried to stay away from processed foods, and then always worked, but I’ve tried.

[@art_allaround]

I can say that I eat meet every day but in extra small amount. Just a few pieces in a soup.

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

Do you check the quality of it? Meaning is it organic / grass-fed? As a lot of the meat in stores has a lot of bad stuff inside which may be the reason red meat has a bad rep right now. Small amounts is good though if it's balanced with good veggies and an overall healthy diet! 🫡

[@karenreaves3650]

I poisoned myself drinking my Superfood Smoothies I am still dumping oxalates but getting better. I am very grateful for the carnivore way of eating, I have a wonderful long established ranching family nearby raising grass fed and finished beef, raw dairy so I can make my own butter and cheese. We have our own chickens and enjoy fresh eggs everyday. Ranching family’s love and care humanly for their animals, they go through a difficult time when they loose one of their girls. They are trained to save their lives in very difficult situations there is no time to wait for the vet to arrive, just follow up.

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

Fair point! Plus those superfoods are often contaminated. I'm going to try strict carnivore in January and will document my journey. For now I'm back to meat (but only quality) and avoiding all the bad stuff.

[@jesuschrist1501]

do you ever wonder why people aren't going meatless or have thoughts continuously about how to convert people to go meatless? also are you part of any rigorous activism to convert people to go meatless?

[@hseindesigns]

I thought a carniovre diet means you can't have anything else besides meat.

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

Yeah I wasn't being that precise, generally it's meat + a small limited number of vegetables for extra vitamins, and mine was more about just adding meat to the diet.

[@ilmaux]

Wow. I have being vegetarian for 18 years and not sure I would be able to eat meat. I did no sugar diets and gluten free diets to test many times. 😅 I ate fish once to test and I didn't like the feeling and the smell that my body produced. 🙃 so I don't think I would be able to go back eating meat.

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

That smell thing is a real thing - I can attest to that - when switched to meat (but also with all that junk food) I had this issue as well and actually forgot about it and just realised that now I don't have it. So there was a downside after all - thank you for the reminder :)

[@eulalia3446]

Interesting, my body odour disappeared after I went carnivore.

[@Сунђербобан]

"I eat fish and sea food but no meat" 🤣🤣🤣

[@Jenerate]

Interesting! I've been vegan 10 years because animals can think and feel, and I refuse to add to their suffering. I'm also an atheist so the notion that they were put on this planet for us to use is completely absurd to me. If you spend any time with animals, you can see that they are just the same as us. I hope your vegan month went/is going well. :) I had health issues before going vegan and my doctor's say my diet is part of what is keeping me so healthy, even with my problems. So I hope you noticed an improvement like I did.

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

I'm writing a script for a video about that vegan month and my findings - should be coming soon(ish) too :) And yes, I don't feel great eating animals, so as I mentioned for me to justify it the results would need to be really great health-wise. Now I have a proper comparison so I can figure out the next steps.

[@Jenerate]

@@DeliberatelyDefiant Nice! I'm looking forward to the new video :)

[@Felix2011y]

Actually , plants can also think and feel

[@eulalia3446]

Carnivores kill fewer animals than you for their food. One cow can feed a human for several months. Your plant food requires the death of multiple small animals and insects.

[@-VIRUS-.]

Every BODY is different. I feel best, most energy, better body composition on vegan and vegetarian than omnivore. My cholesterol is lowest when plant based and significantly higher when eating more meat and dairy. I was dx with high cholesterol since age 3 and my body just reacts negatively toward animal products. My hubby on the other hand eats animal products, has perfect cholesterol levels and feels fine when eating both omnivore and at times vegetarian. He just prefers the taste of meat. I can't stand the taste or texture, especially seafood. My point is, to each their own and do what is best for your physical, mental, health and spritual well-being

[@afghfghfgha1631]

Ostia el corte ingles en marbella, pero si eres de aqui al lado bro jajajaja Te recomiendo la leche de pasto fresca de lidl para tomar a diario

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

si, vivo en marbella 1/3 del año. No me gusta la leche :(

[@afghfghfgha1631]

No es por gusto necesariamente si no por la nutricion que da, pero a mi tampoco me gustaba la leche ni la queria tomar de mas chico hasta que descubri la leche fresca, seguramente solo has probado la uht, de carton, a mi me daba asco tambien pero es totalmente diferente el sabor, pase de no tomar leche nunca a beberle 1 litro en el mismo dia del tiron, pruebala Hablas bien en Español? Para escribirte en ingles si no @@DeliberatelyDefiant

[@jeffarp7409]

Here are the rules to liv by, if it doesn't fly, swim or come out of the ground. Dont eat it.

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

So carrots are ok?

[@jeffarp7409]

@@DeliberatelyDefiant Lol I would say yea. As long as their not from outer space.

[@longshot8052]

try full carnivore you won't regret it

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

January!

[@jonpos4671]

Welcome to the club!

[@sherilynnxquantumdivine7065]

Thank you so much

[@chris222233]

I got super sick. I have a high heart rate right now for over a week. Not kidding

[@georgecarlin2656]

If from meat - make sure you're not consuming too much salt.

[@DavidKissinger-cm3lh]

red meat from wild game is your best bet. if you eat an egg you've just eaten a whole chicken so what is the difference. the best way to eat meat is to grind or cube it up and cook it with vegetables, yum, like a stir fry or skillet stew. gaging is all in your head, just keep chewing and you'll get over it.

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

Yes, my aim is to switch to wild game from the new year, but it's not as easy where I live right now (Southern Spain) - trying to find some good hunter who sells game.

[@cathiemcginnis3997]

Carnivore for life! Best decision I have ever made for my health in so many ways.

[@nealcox8204]

Good luck with whatever you choose, but I am not sure you were doing "carnivore" just eating meat with all of that other stuff you were eating... Joe Rogan and Peterson (and his daughter) were speaking about ONLY eating beef, salt, and water. Again, good luck on whatever you choose.

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

Yeah I might've been imprecise. The first change was to just add meat to the diet after 30 years vegetarian, I plan to do more strict carnivore in January.

[@viktoriaszemere8563]

I am on low carb and keto diet.. I used to change them.. I think everything is in your brain. Why do you think eating plant is a human act? As animals have feelings plant have as well6. They feel the stress like us.. And when you harvest them and cook them is the same like amimals. Of course i am aganst to keep aminals in the horror ways. They need to live their life as normal.. It would be nice..

[@johnsouza5262]

Just as eggs it should be pasture raised.

[@darksavior1187]

You obtained exactly the result that is to be expected when you just add meat but also keep all the carbs and junk food. That is essentially the SAD diet now, junk food + meat. You added muscle from the intake of protein but got none of the benefits of lowering inflammation and becoming ketogenic in your body's energy source because you kept too much carbohydrate and other inflammatory agents (like plant phytotoxins and highly inflammatory seed oils). You cannot expect to get the results you heard from Rogan and Peterson doing it half assed like that. Eliminating the junk and carbs is 70% or more of the results they are reporting, because otherwise that all works against what you are hoping to achieve (aside from a higher protein intake).

[@jeffrussell777]

Really RESPECT and Feel not only your struggle but Your Desire 2 Become Super Healthy and Strong....you are on the Right path....Get Rid of the JUNK FOOD IS MANDATORY.....No Exceptions....Study the Mediterranean diet....Get that Wild Salmon going....then go type in breathworks on youtube ....and learn to breath and mediate...I can see you benefitting from tai chi ...and stretching exercises ...and going into a calisthenics type workouts....the gag is a Mental block...Learn to enjoy that YOU are giving New life to what you Eat^

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

Thanks Jeff! I actually do a couple more things than just diet changes - I do wim hof method breathing every day for over 1400 days in a row, I do cold exposure (including extreme ones), lots of training and so on. Biggest change so far is getting rid of junk and empty calories and it seems to be working. 🫡

[@MonderMatrix]

He seems is still eating carbs and sugar with meat

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

No, that's not what I said. I said I sometimes drink non alc beer and have an occasional pizza but it's NOT my daily diet. I don't consume ANY sugar, any sodas and soft drinks of any kind, almost no bread and so on.

[@MonderMatrix]

@@DeliberatelyDefiant i am not clear on what is your diet then? Is low carb high fat? Or it's just about adding meat to your current diet?!

[@jeffkirchoff14]

I've been a vegetarian for 2 months now 😂

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

How is it working for your energy levels? I'm a vegan since August 1st and it's a little tougher

[@mikebelmont5919]

remember to eat protein sources and do blood tests every year.

[@billyjackwashburn6970]

I make sure my first food of the day is meat ( preferably organ meats ). I stay on my time restricted eating. Only eat one time a day at 10:45 am. Never eat pork !! No way !!! Rarely eat Chicken. Mostly Beef, Bison, Elk, Venison. Red meat. 💪 No plants. 🤮

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

How does this work in combination? I'm thinking about making a 4h eating window in January. Any vitamin deficiencies? Or supplementing?

[@billyjackwashburn6970]

@@DeliberatelyDefiant I only take a vitamin B everyday while I'm eating. Or Riboflavin ( same thing ). I learned it mostly from " Paul Saladino ". Most vitamins and supplements are already in red meat, including Co-Q10. The heart is loaded with vitamin C. Brains are high in vitamin D. Liver rules ! I recommend taking an Axtaxanthin daily.

[@TehLiquid]

Eating meat + pizza, beer and veggies isn't a "loose" carnivore diet, it's a standard diet. You were never carnivore. Carnivore is exclusively animal products. lol?

[@Jonases_20]

goodluck hun. i developed psoriatic arthritis because of eating meats. and my dad died due to heart attack because of the said diet as well

[@TTR83]

Nonsense!

[@Jonases_20]

@@TTR83 you’re the nonsense here hun. meats are pro-inflammatory as to why my CRP and ESR were extremely elevated

[@TTR83]

@@Jonases_20 Why? Can you explain?

[@TTR83]

Because of eating meats and nothing else? What kind of meats you ate?

[@Jonases_20]

@@TTR83 organic and lean meats. like beef and chicken. no fats. no carbs. only meats hun. that’s our diet. my dad died last yearbecause of that

[@suzanneshea520]

Interesting - I have been a vegetarian since I was a teenager. I never thought of the gag reflex but I really have no desire to eat any meat. I was a vegan back in my twenties but I don't think I was particularly healthy. However those were different times and there are a lot of different ideas that I never knew about back then. I have really been trying to incorporate more vegan protein sources too like tempeh and seitan.

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

I will be doing some alternating for a while to be sure i figured out the best approach for my health, but I do have some conclusions from the vegan month that are interesting so making a video on those soon too.

[@Rohveganchen]

Eating meat is like dancing with devils. Devil energy of the cost of animals. Its the wrong way for me to eat the flash…

[@matildagrobhinde383]

So you haven't been doing Carnivore at all, you've just added meat to all your carbs. Don't expect the results of Peterson if you don't do the work.

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

All I said is that those carnivore diet advocates convinced me to add meat to my diet, not to go full carnivore (yet). I am considering trying a full month of strict carnivore though.

[@georgecarlin2656]

Dude if you ate fish that already disqualifies you from any vegan-related group, because fish is meat no matter how people try to portray it. So you had a pretty regular diet with little restrictions whatsoever. So "started eating meat" in your case means pretty much nothing. But I get the drama you wish to portray about yourself.

[@afghfghfgha1631]

Ypu dont look bad for being doing that for 30 years Interesting video

[@akojulius3777]

The gag reflex and the throw up sensation is because it's similar to cannibalism. It's like you are chewing another human being. It's a gross sensation. At least this was the sensation after 3 months with no meat. Now i'm a 10 years vegan. It's interesting that i have more energy after "divorcing" the meat and feel better physical, mental and moral.

[@nudger5]

Can you explain why vegans mostly look frail and pale? The facts are that meat is the most nutritious food there is, period. So to eliminate meat from your diet is completely ridiculous.

[@akojulius3777]

@@nudger5 I'm not pale. I'm sorry to disappoint you. And i'm athletic too and a muscled guy. It's in the gene... so it's a "+" for me. The most nutritious are carbohydrates, that means cereals. The centurions went to war with cereals (and fruits) and not meat not just because it spoiled but also because physically tires them on the battlefield compared to the cereals that filled them and it was nutritious. The same with the Saints, they were praying a lot and eating easy food to digest and yoga practitioners too. The heavy and tired the body the heavy and tired the mind. You eat meat and you don't know anything about food history, you don't even know what you're eating, you're ignorant and you've never put it into practice except what you hear left and right which is theory and opinions. You are like zombies. I always experiment on myself and then reach a conclusion. I listen to anything and get my head around it, but I don't get drunk on lies and theoretical nonsense not even on alcohol because i don't like to drink. Practice is my master. Eat a bread and see how long it takes until you get hungry again and eat a whole chicken and see how long it takes you until you get hungry again. You are forgetting that you eat everything else except you have an extra addiction... meat. Most people can't live without eating meat. It's called addiction not nutrition. Don't lie to yourself. I was there and i know. I'm not chained by this addiction anymore and my conscience is clear too. Earlier i went to buy food and when i left the building where i live there was a dead pigeon. After the buying session i went to buy some pretzels with different seeds and an old woman was asking people to buy her a pumpkin pie slice to eat. No one fuc...g care... ignorance. I bought her a pumpkin pie slice and 2 pretzels with poppy seeds and sesame seeds. When i turned home the pigeon was still there. No one took him. I went and took some kitchen paper set it like a stretcher/bed and took the pigeon to a resting place with green grass and earth. How can someone understand an animal suffering who can't speak (can't defend) when he can't fuc...g understand the person next to him speaking the same fuc...g language and even ignores the ones in need or asking for help? And people ask themselves why the world is in this "state of art" = "horror show" when the same people are the pillars that support it. Happy Holidays!

[@karend.9218]

1 cow would feed me for a year. Vegetables and grains kill hundreds of littler animals that get caught up in the plows/combines etc. Ask any farmer and they will tell you the truth about all the animals killed to plant and harvest crops. It will make you pause, if ethical reasons are in the forefront of your choices. That said, I could never be vegan, I love a BBQ steak too much. I went low carb at 55 because a change was needed, felt better than I had for a decade, haven’t looked back to low fat SAD. I would go carnivore. Veggies are fine but they are not fire for me.

[@akojulius3777]

Why people are so s..... and they don't understand that fish and sea food is f...... meat.

[@catz4m8z]

well, going carnivore doesnt make you a contrarian....its literally jumping on the latest trendy bandwagon! Also eating fish doesnt mean you were a vegetarian seeing as how a fish is a living creature. oh, and never base any health decisions on popular influencers, stick with the science!

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

The science is not 100% clear on dietary recommendations as they all depend on the individual - some fare better on vegan diets and others feel horrible while vegan. Also the science recommended the food pyramid for decades which was just paid for by a couple of food producers and is actually quite unhealthy. That's why I'm testing stuff on myself like this to find what works best for me. That is my science.

[@FrostedZaibatsu]

Sounds like you want to be keto and not carnivore.

[@samleonard5842]

beef butter bacon and eggs

[@keywestfan2503]

If you don’t like killing animals, then whatever you do, do NOT research crop agriculture…

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

I'm aware of what you mean (really!) but I mostly buy small farm, organic veggies. ;)

[@caracortage3270]

Switching to carnivore for the sake of vanity and Arrogance.

[@Darrinnewlife]

I'm carnivore

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

Glad to hear it works out well for you

[@R2NOTU]

Eggs are meat in case you don't know .and so is sea food you were not a vegan

[@DeliberatelyDefiant]

I was a strict vegan for a total of a couple of months and vegetarian for most of my life.

[@R2NOTU]

@@DeliberatelyDefiant ok but meat is meat vegetable doesn't come from a meat animal. I've taken eggs and used the ingredients for sausage and turned scrambled eggs into sausage tasting breakfast. I tried to tell a relative that vegans die early and she wouldn't hear it but now 20 years later her doctor told her she was dying and to get off the vegan or die . She did .