Meat-based vs Plant-based Diet for Longevity | David Sinclair and Lex Fridman

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[@mabboyz4lyf]

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[@kingniggafish]

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[@trevor_osborn]

Elks eat plants 👌

[@miste.remusic]

Watch him with a girl named Kelly Brogan (lol it rhymes). He actually argues in favor of a plant based diet in a certain circumstance with her

[@TheBlayner]

@@uncoiledfish2561 wow. Entitled much?

[@VeganV5912]

@@miste.remusic .. Bigger and stronger and fitter on a plant-based diet. I feel great. And I don’t stink like a corpse. I don’t need deodorant because I’m clean and fresh my boots, socks, armpits are absolutely clean and fresh because fibre is plants and fruit and nuts and berries and tubers. Meat and cheese and milk et cetera have no fibre. Stays in your body for a long time puuu-trifying !!!🧟‍♂️🦠💩🥩🍖🥓🍗.... Scientific fact !!. Timelapse... 5 days or more sitting inside your stomach... 🧟‍♂️🦠🍖... 🤮 Puuuutrifying your guts !!! Over a burger !! 5 minute burger et cetera !! kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4vTZZ-YprtlbqM kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6XUfIqibbGWjrs kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKWXgKiefZ5jqdU kzbin.info/www/bejne/hmLHo3SHl6mKhKc 🧟‍♂️🧟‍♀️🦠💩🥩🍳🥓🍖... 5 days or more sitting inside your stomach puuuu-trifying !! No fibre if you eat animals !!! Hard arteries. Scientific fact !!!! ✅❤️💪😬🦷⭕️ Plant-based/Vegans don’t stink. Smooth arteries. Loads of fibre if you eat plants and fruit and nuts and berries and tubers. Scientific fact. We are herbivores. Scientific fact. Long, long stomachs. Flat teeth. Little flat teeth. Scientific fact....

[@jameslay6505]

What I love about Lex is he encourages points of view that might be contrary to his own. It inspires me to do the same in my own life.

[@angelgutierrez3943]

What an amazing video, I’m very grateful that the internet opened the possibility of learning from great minds on how to improve our daily lives.

[@grandpa1011]

@Slavery is Freedom, War is Peace no, in Okinawa, they started eating spam processed meat. And the bluezones eat mostly beans and vegetables and Dan Buettner can tell you that too.

[@grandpa1011]

@Slavery is Freedom, War is Peace long ago okinawans use to eat mostly plant based with no processed food 2% animal products and they were the longest living people in the world.

[@gazlives]

@@grandpa1011 this is false from Dan Buettner's lies. pig was a major part of their diet for centuries including large amounts of lard to cook all the vegetables in. anyways it's still just correlation not causation. they live a healthy life style and eat to 80% full as part of their culture. and calorie restriction is the only diet we can be sure does improve longevity, although it doesn't extend it much compared to what it does for other animals (which is why animal studies aren't often that useful).

[@cIeetz]

One of the main things everyone overlooks because its a 'sensitive' subject is parasites. In a standard american diet or any diet that consists of meat and processed foods with sugar and starches, parasites are able to run rampant. The more parasites You are subjected to from contamination from different restaurants, friends houses You eat at, Pets You encounter ( playing with pets and not washing hands before eating is a huge factor ) the worse shape Your G.I. tract will be in, with some infections like Roundworms being the worst ( they create huge mucoid plaque reservoirs in the Intestines and they are massive in size ) . Parasites excrete toxic discharges in Your digestive tract, cause bowel blockages, steal the nutrients from the food You eat, etc. The only diet that truly kills them and detoxes the body is raw vegan. Even if You fully clean and clear them out of Your body, You can eat one piece of cake and be reinfected instantly. Theres no miracle pill You can take for them, it takes consistency over time. Site the Essene Gospel of Peace which can be found online for free to see Jesus' hidden teachings on detoxing and purifying ( removing all parasitic infection ) . Herbert Sheltons PDFs on fasting can also be found online free which have lots of great info. Essentially You clean the digestive tract out of any and all debris, then start from scratch as raw vegan, never eating cooked, frozen, or rotten foods again. This is the holy of holy diets only for those who truly wish to master the body. You will ascend to the heavens with Your vibration and be reborn on a cellular level if You pull off the Essene detox.

[@tobytoxd]

Great interview and very helpful! Thank you very much for sharing!

[@Boombox69in]

I feel like Lex is getting better conversationally, he leaves more and better points for his partner to use as a springboard to their point

[@janej6184]

He seems to enjoy the conversations with his guests, and it comes through to the viewers.

[@drealexatos3459]

It's that zero carb diet

[@zacciahwilliams5076]

I reckon he's enjoying were he is at

[@samgallagher7012]

He is still boring as fuck hahaha

[@79boricuarage]

@@Grosflam he is boring, but has great guest. So it's a balance.

[@fedor755]

Mr. Sinclair has such a great humor, really enjoyed this clip - beyond the fun of course.

[@gregorywilkinson5731]

Dr.

[@fedor755]

@@gregorywilkinson5731 Prof.

[@FlipYourCarIntoTheTornado]

@@fedor755 Vampire

[@3masonthree]

I'd say it's because he's not a brainwashed American thank god 🤣🤣

[@paulmcintosh8228]

We need to get Lex to moderate a nutrition debate - plant vs animal - between David Sinclair and Paul Saladino! Who’s on board for this?

[@davefx7949]

Plant based has bonus points. Environment and animal rights.

[@westcoastsingletrack7854]

@@davefx7949 oh yes cause animals die peacefully in the wild theres no such things as predators, no they bleed to death die of pain or starve to death we use every part of the animal espescially cows and kill them instantly

[@Badminstep]

@@westcoastsingletrack7854 how does wild animal deaths have anything to do with the killing of farmed animals? And I’m sure you would agree that gassing pigs or breeding chickens that grow until their legs break is causing them suffering, which are both well known practices within the industry

[@randomguy2809]

@@Badminstep ok but those chickens and pigs don't live at all without farming. The choice isn't between ethically farmed pigs and non-ethically farmed pigs, it's between farming pigs period and the non-existence of said pigs. It would be far too costly to let the pigs be free range, which is 1000% ethical, they live a happy normal life and then just have one bad day. But it can't be done at scale to feed millions. What you are arguing for is the non-existence of those animals. You're making an anti-natalist argument in the farming context.

[@westcoastsingletrack7854]

@@Badminstepidk where your from but theirs laws here in the us for humane killing of animals and living conditions all those videos are from foreign countries

[@driedmango1914]

This was great. The only thing I’m skeptical on is what he says about fruit. Every time fruit is brought up he talks about avoiding “fruit juice” and “adding sugar” or “cheesecake”. This is not the same thing as the blueberries I add to my oatmeal or smoothies

[@digitaldale]

I'd agree with you as well. Surely the one food...being fruit that is complete in it's whole form, literally grown where we can pick it with our hands is suggesting we avoid it. I'm very skeptical of this point, the only shady rebuttal he gives is the age old 'sugar spike' argument. But as we know from studies, fructose stimulates only modest insulin secretion and does not require the presence of insulin to enter cells. If thats not the most ideal sugar we should be consuming, I don't know what is.

[@driedmango1914]

@@digitaldale yeah agree. There’s also an interesting hypothesis: does eating more fruit correlate with eating more refined/processed sugars from other sources? Either way, it’s pretty silly to say fruit is bad because of the high sugar content. In my view it’s like saying nuts & avocados are bad for you because of the high fat content. should be obvious, but not all carbs and fats are equal

[@jax9349]

The sugar in fruit is fructose that can only be metabolised in the liver. Like alcohol. Over eating fruit and especially fruit juice, can cause non alcoholic fatty liver disease.

[@Samyramirez]

@@digitaldale Actress Charlize Theron gained weight for her roles by drinking apple juice which is 100% fructose. Fructose is actually worse than glucose. I highly recommend watching Profr. Robert Lustig for all the science

[@digitaldale]

@@Samyramirez To be honest i've never ever seen a fat fruitarian and all they eat is fructose.

[@rainbowinthedark453]

“The David Goggins of vegetables.” Lmao! I love Lex’s sense of humor. Love him too. Your podcast is awesome Lex and I look forward to see what interviews he’s going to do. I love the subjects he chooses.

[@TimothyDavis-xw3mc]

Have you seen Goggins legs nice...NOT!!!

[@Jamie.Richards]

I'm glad to see him on the podcast. It concerned me how often the meat only and keto diets are discussed without someone, like David Sinclair, to challenge it.

[@SapientEudaimonia]

@FreeSpeech Not all opinions are equal. And an opinion is not equal to an educated broad analysis of the scientific literature.

[@SapientEudaimonia]

@FreeSpeech You implied it. And you also implied that what he says is "just" an individual opinion, instead of an evaluation of the literature. Calling that "his opinion" is a bit silly.

[@rachemeatte6727]

@@SapientEudaimonia seriously. 🙄

[@SapientEudaimonia]

@Von Yeah, let's cast out rigorous science and evidence for "my precious body speaks to me", N=1 anecdotal evidence, and speculative fantasy history that fits your narrative and is irrelevant to our current lives and context.

[@SapientEudaimonia]

@Von Yes, you are definitely the master over your own health, but what you are saying is hardly valid. Plus, you are ending your last reply with a childish remark like "keep malnourishing yourself", which says a lot about you and your intention. At least be consistent in your science denial, N=1 and "listen to your own body" pseudobabble, and accept that I am a master of my own health as well. My body "tells" me that plant-based is the way to go. After more than 30 years of being an omnivore I have never felt so sharp, strong, fit and vigorous.

[@user-gi3cw2zh7k]

what an amazing video, I am very grateful that the internet opened the possibility of learning from great minds on how to improve our health. Let me thank this project for serving a reminder to MINDFUL CONSUMPTION.

[@TheUntypicalGerman]

Leafy greens make me super gassy and I don't seem to digest them very well. Meat, fish, eggs, milk, yoghurt, cheese, and fruit I can digest very well, flat stomach, no bloating or farting. I tried many diets, now I just eat mainly animal products, and the occasional small pizza or cake here and there to enjoy (social) life, and I'm doing fine.

[@artvsmachine3703]

Yeah, if you've been eating lots of meat and then try to switch to a plant-based diet, your body isn't used to it. Goes the other way around as well. Like the guy said, he can't process a chicken steak for days.

[@kamarifit]

Finally a recognized figure in medicine and in the mainstream who is able to speak the truth when it comes to the science and not just cater to what the general public desires to hear. Which is good news about their bad habits.

[@banparlous2552]

Really? I don't agree w/ anything this dude has said. The science doesn't agree either as far as N15 study or The Randle Cycle or Thermodynamics

[@dragospahontu]

He is with the CIA

[@cz5696]

@@banparlous2552 this guy is the world leader in scientific research on longevity and you’re saying you don’t agree with ANYTHING he says? Really?

[@banparlous2552]

@C Z Nutritional Science is mostly garbage surveys, nutritional epidemiology meant to gain vague insights on populations, not individuals, exaggerated headlines to promote clicks, fuzzy data, fuzzy math, fuzzy ethics... He could be the Queen of England for all I care. There will never be great lock-down, actual scientific nutritional studies due to practicality, ethics, funding, etc.

[@cz5696]

@@banparlous2552 he doesn’t research nutritional science idiot. Do your own reading on these topics or don’t, but if you don’t believe scientific research can help us live longer lives then I think you’ve made your decision lol

[@user-qp6vg9ho8u]

Avoid stress. That is the most important thing

[@coltanbabz5569]

Good luck! 🤣😂😆

[@meyerhans2125]

Evidence?

[@mabd7340]

What is stress? Is not exercising a stress?

[@fukun5773]

@@mabd7340 to be specific, avoid chronic stress, especially chronic mental stress. Stress from exercise is always short term and the good kind of stress

[@fukun5773]

@@meyerhans2125 Lmao. Find the evidence yourself

[@WikiPeoples]

What he said about WHEN you eat really resonated with me. I can eat ANYTHING in the morning and feel good, no crash, nothing. Giant burrito packed with rice in the morning? Totally fine. That SAME meal in the afternoon, or evening, will put me into a coma. My guess this has to do with the natural spike in cortisol in the morning, and this somehow either counteracts the tiredness effect of carbs, or, even works synergistically with a bolus of carbs. Sans cortisol, carbs spike insulin and make you tired as fuck.

[@NutritionLibrary]

Insulin sensitivity is highest in the morning too

[@WikiPeoples]

@@NutritionLibrary I didn't know that... interesting. Is that why huge carb meal in the morning DOESNT make me tired? I would have thought if insulin sensitivity was highest in the morning that you WOULD feel more tired from a lot of carbs... so I must be misunderstanding something

[@JeffreysDharma]

Thanks for that GREAT insight, man. I REALLY enjoyed it. I think a SIMILAR way. 🙂 Again, THANKYOU.

[@EvanNagao]

My take based on Dr. Gundry's studies is that your gut takes a lot of damage when you eat, especially eating foods with lots of lectins and glyphosate (can look these terms up if you want more info). So as the day goes on, you develop damage to the gut (leaky gut), and it makes things later in the day harder to digest. You feel tired cuz food particles seep through the lining of your gut, and your body creates an allergy response. Then, when you sleep, it gives your gut time to repair, so that when you eat your next meal, you'll have a robust gut again. One of the ideas with intermittent fasting is to give the gut sufficient time to repair so that it can digest properly, and only eat in a small window of time so that the damage done is minimal. Of course, if you eat mostly clean foods, you can potentially make this window of eating bigger, and fasting time less.

[@iAMJaws]

@@EvanNagao thanks for the read

[@accord21]

The key is in the gut microbiome. That really needs to be studied and tested alot more.

[@saradomim]

The key is that the human microbiome cannot digest plants, we don't digest them in our stomach, or our guts. The only place where we ferment plant matter is the colon, where we do not absorb nutrients. We are not hind gut fermenters like some primates and other herbivores. We simply do not posses the ability do digest plants at all. The only part we do somewhat good with is the soluble fiber which predominantly composes fruit flesh. Plants are toxic to humans and will forever be this way, we don't have ways to get rid of the antinutrients, natural occurring pesticides, toxins/poison and antibiotics in them. The only living thing on earth which can digest plant matter is bacteria and we don't have any that do that in a meaningful way for us. We are and will forever be obligate carnivores, raw meat is the only food for humans and key to health. Also every single plant/vegetable/fruit available in commerce as of now is completely and utterly man made so it simply cannot be part of our natural diet since it does not exist whatsoever in nature.

[@harper07harper]

@@saradomim lol what a load of shit.. you have no clue what you are talking about.. You are just regurgitating( no pun intended ) something you watched on KZbin. The people in the med live into their early 100's, late 90's, and eat fish and mainly veg..

[@calcosPR]

​@@saradomim yup.

[@cmo5807]

@@saradomim Spot on bud. Its crazy how people think plants are something we are supposed to eat the most of.... our colon compared to other species is small.... their is a chart floating around the net comparing things like a gorilla ( eats plants mostly ) to humans and the gorilla has way more of a colon.

[@nebojsa1976]

@@saradomim So, according to this logic, all vegans are dead by now.

[@richspizzaparty]

Fasting. There’s a reason cultures have embraced it for generations.

[@georgebossie7426]

They embraced it since they had to go days without finding food lol

[@Eviligniter]

@@georgebossie7426 Exactly, it was part of human life, now we skip it totally, so perhaps we aren't using all the mechanism than the human body has for self regenerate.

[@miste.remusic]

Yup and some people say carnivore diets give good effects (ive never tried and never will lol cuz death wtf) because it mimics fasting. No natural sugars which are actually the desired by every cell of the body first and foremost for energy, and no fiber for the gut microbiome to interact with. Therefore rotting carcass for 3 days in your gi tract is ignored and the body is basically in a fasting state which gives rise to the energy. But it’s an unconscious fast, the meat eater does not actually know how to operate the body in a fasting state, and will never glean the proper benefits, and will ultimately feel like their life may be cut off at any second. My strongest argument for plant based is friends not food. Easy to tell the cow is sad and scared before you shove it to its death

[@thestoicwhinger]

@@miste.remusic I ate carnivore for 6 months and never experienced what you described. Never felt, looked or performed better. Healed me of severe deficiency. Just because something isn't your cup of tea doesn't require shitting on it from your pedestal

[@miste.remusic]

@@thestoicwhinger And you contributed to the murder of many animals!!

[@petermaverick9820]

The David goggins of vegetables LoL

[@jessicacousineau9056]

I loved this quote before listening and understanding its relevance! That quote hit me good!

[@JeremyHutchings]

He's likely delishious and nutritious.

[@melo5303]

@@JeremyHutchings pause!

[@brahmaputramoskva1215]

David goggins of vegetables is Dr Michael greger

[@kenwang9672]

@@brahmaputramoskva1215 Yea Dr Greger gotta be the real David Goggins of veggies and also the treadmill lol

[@loyalsausages]

The only rats that lived longer were the ones that ate once a day, regardless of all other factors. That alone tells us so much.

[@craigr4763]

Not without knowledge of the experimental conditions it doesn't, not at all. I suspect if you're quoting studies about rats then you should probably already be aware of that. All other factors? Within what range and conditions?

[@snasnusnaba3361]

Yes, Very useful if you have pet rats.

[@Cenot4ph]

needs a lot more relevant study with humans. Animal studies are relatively weak indicators of what might be the case for humans similarly to in-vitro studies. Drawing any conclusions from these kind of studies and calling them conclusive would be lying.

[@kycklingklubba5749]

We are not rats tho.

[@jazzhandsdan207]

Big believer in how often you eat is more important that what you eat. But doing both is best.

[@MarcoTrillion]

Awesome interview! Thanks

[@rexyz5875]

Lex sounds like he is sitting in a campfire telling scary stories

[@crypto_dasha]

He’s just Russian, lol

[@DannySullivanMusic]

the scary story is american obesity

[@josephgardner6667]

Joe pera lmao

[@vusa3150]

🤣🤣🤣

[@maryamhamid6003]

Lol☠️

[@kylebiggs8849]

a bit of advice: take advice from the experts in the videos you watch, and not from the videos comment section

[@zamfirtoth6441]

Here's more advice, just eat meat, fruit and vegetables and dont listen to any of these countless health gurus, they are just trying to make a living without actually working, kind of like ebook authors

[@LeeC58]

Sorry I'm not taking your advice 😝

[@michellejohnson7955]

😂🤣

[@fazalihtisham4421]

@@zamfirtoth6441 damn I gotta become one of them cuz I hate working

[@QualeQualeson]

A bit of advice: Few fields are as full of quasi knowledge, professional debate and shifting conclusions as this, even on so called expert level (especially on expert level).

[@operasinger2126]

Lex, this was good! Need a longer clip next time!

[@johannesschmitz6370]

you could watch the podcast

[@AannshaJones]

There is conflicting evidence on spinach. While it contains lots of minerals etc, it also robs the body of these as it goes through the digestive system. I've heard overcooking it helps.

[@mikefatah]

Just do coke and don’t eat for a couple days! For health!!

[@Happycamper808]

eating one healthy meal a day is not hard.

[@quinnh4313]

@@Happycamper808 probably not if you have a slow metabolism and don’t exercise much

[@Happycamper808]

@@quinnh4313 i do judo and hit weights every weekday. “Starving” means dying from lack of nutrients, most people have months before they’re actually starving. A little self control with food is not difficult.

[@patrickdowney1995]

Easier said than done. A more practical variant for most working people might be the cocaine, peppers and milk diet adopted for a time by David Bowie in the mid 1970s. Lots of high-quality protein, fibre, vitamins and minerals.

[@quinnh4313]

@@Happycamper808 Have fun with the blood sugar spike induced diabetes. And doing judo means nothing if you don’t really compete

[@carljacobson7156]

The problem that I've seen is that in these long term Diet Studies, they lump in all sorts of processed meat products with Red Meat - and then conclude that ALL Red Meat is problematic. A Hot Dog or Sausage is not Healthy, especially compared to Grass Fed, Hormone Free Beef. A long term Diet Study using only grass fed, hormone free Beef and fresh Vegetables and some Grains hasn't been done - to the best of my knowledge. I also think that there may be some health and performance benefits to a Diet Rotation - Every 3 months, the Diet Paradigm Shifts: Vegan for 3 months, then Mediterranean for 3 months, then Paleo for 3 months and then finally Keto for 3 months. This also mimics our natural food availability due to seasonal change - and all Macronutrients will be available at some point in the Dietary Cycle.

[@Noner1234]

I like most of what you said... but I doubt virtually anyone would benefit, even subjectively, from a vegan diet for more than a month. It’d also likely require a recovery period. Diet types here would also need defining, e.g. a Mediterranean diet includes a good amount of meat and dairy in most areas of the Mediterranean. Also in no part of the world at any time of year are only plants available.

[@ivan_says_hi]

I hate that a McCancer borgor is considered "red meat". In Russia and other far northern populations red meat was like half the diet for the year. Not everyone lived to 100 but several people in my family did. And almost nobody got cancers or endocrine disorders or all these issues that are attributed to red meat in the modern day.

[@Noner1234]

@@wuyev because it’s deficient

[@thestoicwhinger]

@@wuyev I have numerous Indian friends, about 50% of whom are either vegetarian or vegan. All have or have had numerous digestive, adrenal, and deficiency problems, most around the mid 30s onwards. Having dealt with severe deficiency myself due to years of nutritional neglect, I recognize the symptoms. This in my personal experience has been mostly wives and daughters of friends. I can't flat out say that vegan diets result in deficiency, but given that most if not all essential nutrients are best absorbed and obtained by meat and dairy I can see the possibility. My deficiency symptoms almost disappeared after 6 months carnivore, probably would be gone completely if I could afford to stick to it!

[@arthurrosa9403]

@@ivan_says_hi In what russia did people have more than half their calories from meat? Was your family from the government? The rest of the folks were starving and eating spoiled bread.

[@skyplanet9858]

Several studies have shown that any quantity of whole fruits does not spike the blood sugar and is safe to eat. I'm not talking only about the fiber found in whole fruits that regulates the naturally occurring sugar, but about a whole set of chemical compounds that you get from whole fruit. If you care to learn about those studies I can share them here, Lex.

[@salamander9402]

could you share them please?

[@skyplanet9858]

@@salamander9402 Please lookup studies on Fruit intake and blood sugar and insulin spike correlation. Here's a summary of a few older studies kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIbCg56bdp1rers kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXmoe3hsfpKMopY I'm an academic and I have access to paid journals that are a treasure trove for this subject. I recommend "How not to die" book for Dr. Greger. he also has a youtube channel called NutritionFacts. I hope that helps!

[@salamander9402]

@@skyplanet9858 Thank you so much. When I heard him saying avoid fruit, I was like nahhhh come on bro. I love fruit 😔

[@skyplanet9858]

@@salamander9402 Almost most of the claims that he made aren't supported by science or quality research. I challenge him to provide references to quality studies for what he claims. One has to acknowledge that some of these area are active research and we are yet to research and learn more. But the fact is fruits contain countless chemicals and fibers that control their sugar contents. For example I read a few studies on how chemicals found in pomegranates and blue berries lower sugar absorbance even if you take pure glucose along side them. Just avoid Juices.

[@mangojango3745]

can we please get CC on these videos again Lex? Thank you very much

[@hynjus001]

Regarding the fasting studies on mice, one thing that isn't mentioned ever is that mice have waaaay faster metabolisms than humans. So once a day for a mouse is a much more intense fasting regime than once a day for humans. I'm not sure it's possible to figure out what the human equivalent period is.

[@adamandsteve13]

For humans it is probably to eat once a week, lol

[@Faz-Ahmed]

4-7 days

[@justinw1765]

There has been research which suggests minimum 16 hrs for humans. We know, because this is when the autophagy process starts to kick in (this can be objectively measured). With that said, I did a 10 day mostly water fast and towards the end of that, I felt REALLY good (the first few days kind of sucked, and felt low energy, etc). One of the side effects was that I needed significantly less sleep that usually to function well. Normally I need 7 to 8 hrs of good sleep to feel and function my best, and by the end of that fast, it was more like 5. I was also meditating intensely during this time.

[@Cenot4ph]

@@justinw1765 meditation reduces the need for sleep, not the fasting.

[@vxvxvxvxvx]

I was looking for this comment!

[@michelem226]

One of Blue Zone groups (Nicoya, Costa Rica) had about 9% of their diet as fruit, so it sounds like some fruit in the diet is fine for longevity, if the other factors are correct.

[@michelem226]

So the Loma Linda Blue Zones group ate even more fruit, 27%. I'm not sure if this is by calories, mass, or volume.

[@gazlives]

all these correlation studies suffer from the same thing, they pretend they have found causation when no such thing occurred. these groups life extremely healthy life style; don't over eat, no snacks, lots of movement and exercise, good social relations and mingling etc etc. most of the blue zones eat lots of animal foods too in the form of goat based products like cheese.

[@cornstar1253]

@Michele M blue zones are bullshit science. They exclude Hong Kong. Highest meatt consumption and longest living .

[@michelem226]

@@cornstar1253 1. The older Hong Kong population did not eat a lot of meat when they were young. Health problems from meat are accumulated over a lifetime. 2. average life expectancy is not the right metric. Premature deaths from accidents, etc. will skew life expectancy downward. The Blue Zones work focused on only Centenarians...what they ate over their entire lifetime. And they counted the number of centenarians in a community to find out which communities have the most...a much better metric than using average life expectancy.

[@salvador75]

Went plant based 6 years ago and still the best decision I’ve made in my entire life, and I’ve made some good ones!

[@Andre-kc9di]

🎺🎶🎺🎵🎺🎶

[@rijokripto3633]

now try carnivore and you will really see what is a good decision!

[@hehussle7319]

@@rijokripto3633 diet choices frankly are more individualistic than we want to admit. For most people I suspect a plant based diet is better, and those who need a carnivore diet are a small minority.

[@ChrisOhMy]

@@hehussle7319 That's mostly just because people have been lied to about meat and how good fat and good cholesterol are for people

[@stephanieerazo1777]

@@ChrisOhMy oh no the keto friend

[@LectioMundi]

Davids voice is so calming

[@direwulf6195]

7yrs into a plant based diet and i can only say praises. I feel good and workout frequently and have no problem developing muscle ✌

[@justinthorne8979]

Whats your main source of protein? Bean , pea, legumes?

[@direwulf6195]

@@justinthorne8979 breakfast every morning is a smoothie with fruits, and alot of different small things hemp seeds, baked kale ground up, rolled oats, chia seeds, honey, pb powdered, and plant based protein powder, lunch usually a black bean burger ive pattied and frozen, and different stuff for dinner, my big source of protein is i make my own trailmix in big batches and eat that as a snack throughout the day and before bed!!

[@bighands69]

@@direwulf6195 Adding a small amount of meat to your healthy diet of vegetables will not do you any harm. You by the way and not realize it are on a restricted diet like those that are on carnivore. You feel good but you are going for the short term gains.

[@PozzaPizz]

Meanwhile 4 people in my family who are vegetarian/vegan were told to stop due to insufficiencies in their system. I was 155lbs 6' having eaten mostly veggie protein (including makeshift meats) no dairy and very few meats. My first year on my own @18 I gained 30lbs and most of that was pure lean tissue. My body was starved of creatine, amino acids and the healthy protein it needed. Vegetarian diets aren't for children, teens or anyone who is developing. I feel fantastic and my diet is very clean with a healthy variety of meats, and I never felt better since I became conscious of my food intake. Still muscular and strong, far better vitality libido and strength than when I was basically forced to eat vegetarian. Rant over, but stop peddling this absolute bullshit please.

[@direwulf6195]

@@bighands69 of course it wont do me harm a lil bit would probably help actually but i dont eat meat cause of the harm and suffering it causes to other lifeforms that are concious just like you and me. But in all reality im good i body build really no need to eat animals if you eat correctly

[@tigermotive2378]

The trick is to mix the 2 diets together

[@fukun5773]

And avoid their processed versions

[@VeganExcellence663]

False. Animal products are unnecessary whereas plant foods are absolutely necessary for long term health.

[@tigermotive2378]

@@VeganExcellence663 that’s the biggest lie I’ve ever seen

[@mistahozzy]

@@VeganExcellence663 tell that to the billions of ancestors that brought you here to this very moment

[@papasmurf205]

@@VeganExcellence663 wrong. You're misinformed

[@fulmarmusic1413]

Fruit is amazing for you, however, it has to come with the fibre, so it slowly releases into your body. If you down sugars too fast, your blood-sugar levels spike big time.

[@JamesTaylor117]

Not if you consume it with fat/protein, or both, as far as I’m aware.

[@spleekyspleeks2553]

Problem is the fruit we have today has nothing to do with the fruit that peope had few thousand or even few hundred years ago, industry succesfully made it sweeter and sweeter to increase sales and we can have it 365 days a year. So overall the natural fructose intake over a year was much much lower in ancient times due to fruits not nearly as sweet and only being available seasonally.

[@keithd2284]

@@spleekyspleeks2553 In my experience you've got this backwards. For example, strawberries in the 80s were much smaller and much sweeter than what you find on grocery store shelves these days. I don't know what fruit was like a few hundred years ago, but in modern times they sell it by mass, and it follows that industrial food manufacturers have attempted to maximize yields by mass.

[@machiavelli9827]

@@spleekyspleeks2553 you're right. Fruits are victim of our economic system, demand and supply. The customer prefers Sweet over bitter and adstringent.

[@NINTHSKULL]

@@keithd2284 google medieval paintings of fruit bowls. You can see that there is basically no edible material (it’s all fibrous) and full of seeds even in bananas and watermelons which we think of as being very sweet and very edible.

[@lovetolearn881]

Eating in an 8 to 10 hour window is what allowed me to loose the last ten lbs and flatten my stomach. To be honest doing the 16 or so hour daily fast is the only think that keeps my stomach flat

[@gerardo9052]

The last 10 pounds? If you can't see your abs you have more than 20 pounds of fat to lose

[@zfitness721]

You're eating less calories. That's it nothing special.

[@mollypitcher9380]

@@gerardo9052interesting way of gaging body fat…

[@Mafyu30]

The problem with diet advice is that apart from the common advice of avoiding sweets and alcohol there is a lot of confliction. For instance: carbs or no carbs? fruit or no fruit? caffeine or no caffeine? lots of veg or lots of meat? Also eating one meal a day seems to be getting recommended a lot but then it seems problematic to squeeze the day's calories into one meal whilst keeping it healthy.

[@usada3027]

intermitente fasting is a good way the 16:8 you can fit 2 meals in 8 hours than go into a fasting period for 16 hours

[@maxmwegerano7400]

U don't need as much calories as they generally recommend. It's more likely something like 1300-1500 that an individual needs per day.

[@gooner1248]

@@maxmwegerano7400 if I only take 1500 calories I lose weight like crazy and feel exhausted all the time. Definitely doesn’t work if you are more active than average

[@iAMJaws]

@@maxmwegerano7400 if you workout and exercise almost daily then you need more.

[@GurlPlz4321]

It all depends on your body. Certain diets benefit certain people while for some people they may not. Also, your fitness goal. If you want to increase muscle mass, a diet with more protein and carbs will be fit for you

[@DylanFreeland]

Make sure you consult a physician and/or make incremental changes to your diet. I went all in on spinach 3 years ago and found out this is the worst food you can eat (in more than very small amounts) if you are the 10-15% of the population inclined to kidney stones (which I hadn't had before). Also, a kidney stone is not just incredibly painful, it can damage your kidney. Hoping this comment can help just 1 person avoid this problem

[@calbar8793]

Good to be cautionary but consulting your physician is legal jargon bullshit. Physicians could give less of a shit if you eat a bunch of spinach, they just want to make their days go by smoother and faster. Those ads you see saying “talk to your doctor” are just saying it for legal protection. Doctors only know routines and what they are taught in medical school, none of which involves spinach lending to the cause of kidney stones

[@krystalmarie5637]

Very High in Oxalates! Arugula has zero, lancito is very low.

[@residentjess]

Might need cooking.

[@chillman1828]

Squeezing lemon or lime on spinach is key, not too many people know this

[@enriqueflorendo]

Spinach also causes leaky gut.

[@Diana-mu9vd]

Would like to see dr Sinclair discuss with dr Gabrielle Lyon plants vs meat! 👍🏽

[@9391862]

And yet, in Japans one of the provinces people who lived the longer were consuming sea food. I agree with first point, it does not matter, as long as its balanced, what you eat, but when you eat.

[@RPRsChannel]

"Vegetables that have suffered" So many of the veggies we get from the supermarket are now produced in a sort of hydroponic system, a soil less system. They test the veggies, if they are lacking in vitamins or minerals, they add this to the water. These veggies are considered to be highly nutritious and free of diseases. But are they really that good for us?

[@9999classy]

Absolutely correct , hardly any minerals You have to be living on an organic farm to believe what you are eating is Healthy

[@KR-jg7gc]

@@blakedavis6193 if you really want true organic go to the wilderness and find us spinach and Brussel sprouts and carrots there... when you come back empty handed we will have meat ready for you.

[@todd92371]

I bet they are better than a BigMac and french fries.

[@KR-jg7gc]

@@blakedavis6193 animals are injected or fed stuff to help them grow bigger, plants are engineered to be brighter, sweeter (more sugar called fructose) and apparently keep pests away. . Cabbage has over 50 knows chemicals naturally so.. idk if I want over 50 chemicals from cabbage vs 2 or 3 hormones from a piece of meat that occure anyways in the animal, just boosted. Feedlot cattle doest grow 10x faster but watermelon and maize and any other plant is extremely different than what it was waaaay back in the day like 1800's. Now, we do have a growing population to feed so no my friend there's no such thing as 100% organic in terms of human history. Only in terms of now. I don't see how farm animals are "malnourished" cos then they would not grow 🤔 anyways that's okay

[@dirkdiggler2234]

They are no good....in the 50s they began spraying fruit and veg with rubbish that kills the fungus (cancer) on them!! Because of this they stopped producing natural enzymes that would kill this fungus!! When we used to consume them we would also consume this enzyme!! Far more beneficial....see where I'm going?

[@Operation3Sixty]

I've been on keto for 8 weeks doing OMAD regularly, and i literally cannot overeat. I used to eat ungodly amounts of food in one sitting. Now if try to eat even a little more than usual, my body is like "nah" and shuts it down immediately

[@PlagueSan]

So how do you not eat a massive amount of food in one sitting while on OMAD? I usually track my calories and I’ve tried OMAD a few times and there is just SO much food that you have to eat for your one meal.

[@Operation3Sixty]

@@PlagueSan When i did intermittent fasting on a normal diet, it was impossible for me because i was sooo hungry. So, when it was time to eat i wanted to eat everything in sight. But on keto, i never get that overwhelming hunger like i did before. Its a life hack!

[@arthurrosa9403]

@@PlagueSan Keto is far easier to push food down for most people, fats are really high in calories, so 250-300g of food can sometimes be all for the day.

[@HonISfirE]

Human have inbuilt calories inhibitor when eating meat and fat. First bite it's delicious, then suddenly you Nope out even when you not full yet This is why i believe meat are human main diet

[@royalecrafts6252]

you can teach your body to start overeating again tho :D

[@audronejodzeviciene9289]

DAVID SINKLAR VERY THANK YOU🙏🌿🙏🌿🙏🌿

[@lpg12338]

Interesting video, subscribed! 👍

[@janpolak5852]

This is what a great conversation sounds like.

[@noahninetyone]

Boring? Jk

[@dasbof]

1:25 "occasional dessert" much should be said about "cheating" on your diet and the triggers it has for most people. This causes many people to fall of the wagon and ending their diets. I like Dr. Robert Cywes idea of sugar/carbs being addictive. I think you need to break that addiction by going low/no carb for quite some time to reset you body AND your mind. Sugar is like cocaine.

[@arthurrosa9403]

It is addictive, and most research on addiction indicates it is a symptom of something else, more often psychological. Not dealing with the cause and asking people to avoid it will only cause it to manifest in other ways.

[@heavenlyflower_sl]

true. keto for only a fortnight followed by majority of my meals are whole foods reset and healed my sugar addiction. i found myself not bingeing on cakes/cookies/sweets anymore. And definitely getting grossed out of UPFs.

[@lulabella9249]

"It's far more important when you eat, rather than when you eat", ouff!! Dr. David Sinclair, you are my barometer on longevity!

[@mattthelearner2797]

You are a beautiful woman

[@honest_bishop5905]

@@mattthelearner2797 thirst

[@mattthelearner2797]

@@honest_bishop5905 Holy shit, I don't recall ever writing that comment... Either I was out of my mind or somebody else used my account... Lol I don't know what to say

[@honest_bishop5905]

@@mattthelearner2797 we've all been there lol

[@nephthyz2990]

@@mattthelearner2797 🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭

[@freethinkerrr2897]

I actually enjoy the best of both worlds! A typical meal for me might be a grass fed NY strip and a big bowl of steamed spinach. Or Salmon with broccoli. Who says you can’t incorporate quality meats and vegetables into your diet. To me the real danger lies in indulging in processed and fried foods, processed baked goods, sugary sodas and cakes, etc…Especially over eating to the point of being too full at every meal

[@monkeysezbegood]

Very true. And if you are the steak only a couple time per week even better

[@barshalen99]

This guy is a level 40 Druid.

[@sicksparrow7023]

*100

[@charliecrome207]

Level 40, but give it 60 years and he'll be max level druid

[@Cenot4ph]

he's a level 100 fraud, advocating plant food and selling expensive NMN and resveratrol useless supplements that line his pockets.

[@sherryYYC]

"If I try to overeat on a steak, which I did a couple of days ago...I actually had a chicken--a fried chicken specifically " Ok what?

[@justinw1765]

He is talking about meat in general. Yeah, he didn't phrase it very well, but clearly in his mind, meat is meat. I've watched a number of video interviews of his and one of the consistent points he makes is that animal proteins are higher in certain amino acids which switch on the m-Tor pathways and process, which in animal studies significantly reduces longevity. It is not the specific type of meat, but that flesh protein is higher in those specific amino acids i.e. a steak and chicken are more similar than different overall in that regard.

[@figgmastah]

Same Shit.

[@thevomit5851]

@@figgmastah Chicken fried in flour and seed oils is not even close to a steak cooked in butter/beef fat.

[@thevomit5851]

@@justinw1765 Explains why vegans have almost zero bicep muscles just looking at them. They're not getting all the amino acids they need more muscle building.

[@figgmastah]

@@thevomit5851 Get help.

[@Amanda_downunder]

This topic is v interesting; thanks !

[@forfree4984]

it would be great to have subtitles

[@adrianilg7741]

Just watched a dok in which a native tribe (Tanzania) was asked what is most important in life and what makes them happy. Both times the answer was "meat"

[@miste.remusic]

Hey I know you didn’t but if you ask me my favorite thing in life is being compassionate towards as many living beings around me as I can!

[@adrianilg7741]

@@miste.remusic kzbin.info/www/bejne/inKqm6iIrN2Sj5o Just check it out yourself. Btw. how compassionate are u towards mosquitos and such?

[@miste.remusic]

@@adrianilg7741 Hahaha a low hanging fruit. Ask my dad about the ladybugs and spiders I swept into a jar and removed from our basement while finishing it!!!

[@adrianilg7741]

@@miste.remusic I am not sure what u see as a low hanging fruit (easy&profitable work) here. Or u mean smthng else?

[@miste.remusic]

@@adrianilg7741 The how do you treat insects part

[@superhips135]

Yes, but haagen dazs chocolate almond crunch bars are amazing 🙏😂

[@damuero]

When I significantly reduced my intake of sugar, I found that I couldn't take the sweetness of ordinary sweets anymore.

[@danthadon87]

@@damuero sugar withdrawals are hard-core too, takes like up to 3 days to get over it.

[@superhips135]

@@geraldfriend256 I feel you bud, an effective mentality switch I've made recently is to not look at certain foods as bad. Having shame associated with the foods you eat is pure madness. Find an exercise you enjoy doing every day, try to eat a balanced meal, drink a lot of water, (in my case sparkling water) and haagen dazs at least once a week, twice maybe even😂

[@asmrjudie]

Omg!!!!! Haagen Dazs with the nuts is also my kryptonite!!!

[@daviecrocket9160]

Yup that's what I do to my cannabis plants stress them out in the final stages of flowering.

[@TimothyDavis-xw3mc]

I weigh 155lbs, I was blessed to have a diet of 5lbs of fillet everyday and eat nuts and fruit. I worked out EVERY DAY with heavy weights. There's NO QUESTION I recovered easily, EASILY when I ate 500g of protein a day and my nails and beard grew incredibly strong and healthy. I read in a John Hopkins graduate level physiology book-The average human uses 400g of protein a day

[@mann8283]

Do you have hair?

[@ThePervertedHymns]

I'll avoid cocaine, hard drugs, too much alcohol but berries? lol NEXT

[@paulbrown7872]

I've had problems with acne and eczema all my life, and the worst they ever got was on a plant-based diet, particularly eating raw vegetables (which was recommended to me to maximise the micronutrients). I tried going meat-based in desperation and all my skin problems cleared up in 3 weeks. I lost nearly a stone in 4 weeks and all my bloating and wind went away. My fatigue went away. I'm a healthy colour rather than pasty white. My eyes are now bright whereas before they were always itchy and tired. I can't understand how it's possible that a plant-based diet which seems to have been the cause of so many health problems will make me live longer. The carnivore narrative makes sense because out in the wild, the last thing you eat (unless you want to get extremely sick) is plants. The only reason we can tolerate vegetables is because humans bred most of the toxicity out of them over hundreds of years. However, for the first million years of our evolution the staple was meat, as it is with all modern indigenous peoples (or at least used to be before Western processed foods became available). I'd like to see David Sinclair debate a meat-based advocate like Judy Cho or Paul Saladino.

[@Pazuzu-]

Im going through the exact same experience, also training performance and recovery improved 100%, only difference is that I still eat fruit every 3-4 days.

[@xtrwq]

You've probably just got an allergy, but now, with your diet, you'll probably die earlier of heart disease. Your reasoning about a carnivore diet makes no sense.

[@Pazuzu-]

@@xtrwq Yeah because thats all that matters for MDs and medicine in general, right? Screw if you cant sleep, cant take a s**t for days, has paralyzing anxiety and a thousand allergies. Deal with it, no one cares. The ONLY THING that matters is to keep you alive and breathing, to hell with the conditions, so you are still forced to consume and pay the bills every month. Thats the only thing "professionals" care about.

[@paulbrown7872]

@@xtrwq Our ancestors lived on a staple diet of meat. Indigenous people all over the world still do, and they generally have far less prevalence of Western maladies like diabetes, leaky gut and heart disease, if at all. Red meat as a cause of heart disease/cancer is being steadily debunked. It’s far more likely that heart disease is being exacerbated by processed food ingredients and cheap refined seed oils invented over the past 100 years, and not the food that we’ve evolved to live off over the past million years. No one has yet done any long-term studies of the carnivore diet for longevity. All we have are regurgitated quotes from 50 year old studies, many of them sponsored by the processed food industry and not controlled for other factors like smoking and processed food consumption, which link red meat to heart disease and bowel cancer. It’s nonsense.

[@Mental707]

Plant based is the wqy to go.. for humans, animals and the ecosystem

[@jaimegutierrez5520]

Fry chicken has flour plus deep fry in canola oil. I think eating less is the key I love steak but I wont just eat steak I follow paleo style of eating with fasting.

[@markus9415]

Fruits are low glycemic so your bloodsugar will spike much less and stays balanced. Your pancreas has an easier job maintaining a good sugar level. Strange that prof. Sinclair didn't mention that. Fruits and veggies are a must to incorporate into your nutrition.

[@Dan16673]

True will very fruit to fruit. For instance dates use allulose which has almost zero impact on blood sugar

[@swapniltalekar8110]

Guys Namaste 🙏its swapnil talekar from india and i wanna say that in india vegetarianism is pracited from like more than 5000 years and it has a lots of of scientific importance for our body and mind animal based diet makes us naturally little violent and its not that ancient indians would not eat meat but only worriers used to (mostly) vegetarianism is sign of highest and very propsperous civilaisation .

[@craigr4763]

Meat does not make us "violent", bhai. I love your country, but looking at the instances of violence in India, it does not seem right to suggest that vegetarianism goes hand-in-hand with peacefulness. Both meat and vegetables have different effects respectively, but I do not believe there are any correlations with violence. Again, I love your country and your food. I could happily live of a vegetarian diet in India, but I also love the goodness you receive from eating meat.

[@swapniltalekar8110]

@@craigr4763brother India climate is always little warm and in this type of climate it's really important to eat more calm food than hot ones and non veg is by sure hot in nature and it takes lot of time to digest than veg the impact is on digestive system if our body is involved in digestion for lot of hours in day then com he'll heal us and bythe way it so nice of you bhau🌹

[@kmann100500]

Don't the highest caste Indians eat meant though?

[@Phuzz828]

Some fruit is fine and good to keep things flowing and hydration. Should always eat it before meals

[@usada3027]

​@@Nite85 you shouldn't be eating a shit ton of anything especially in one day intermittent fasting is the key

[@Alex__96]

When i start to add more vegetables to my diet (especially leafy greens) I get constipated. It travels very slow through my intestines.

[@ascendtoaesthetics]

fibre causes constipation....

[@fallacywrecker4960]

- Intermittent fasting (eat less often) - Plant-based food over meat-based - Green leafies are your best friends - Have it raw - Get under direct morning sun atleast 15mins a day - Have more purple colored plant-based food - Include berries in your meals - Cut down sugar, moderate salt - Sleep well - Exercise (Weights, Cardio, Stretching, Balance, HIIT, Breathing techniques)

[@shanelittle1025]

this is my list, too

[@adelam8670]

animal based>plant based

[@fasileyayu]

Day in the life of a peasant.

[@PaulnJenna]

@@adelam8670 for cancer, heart disease, diabetes, etc sure

[@Neknesch]

@@PaulnJenna You do know, that this is debunked like over and over again right ? Nearly all studies that "proved" that where "Did you eat meat this week?" studies, where people most likely remembered the have been eating BigMac so they said "Yes". No actual study that monitored what people really ate could prove that. Also to think diabetes comes from eating meat is just laughable.

[@DRHNTR308]

The BEST thing you can do for YOUR individual physical health is pay money to a reputable, professional company to have your microbiome analyzed in a lab. There never was, is, or ever will be one diet that fits the human body. For example, I personally consulted a large microbiome company and a dietician after being religiously vegetarian for some years at 20, to find out that most vegetables contained many organic compounds that give me autoimmune symptoms (due to the diversity of the microbes contained in my gut) and a slue of negatively detrimental side effects, so, after professionally switching to a ketovore (small amount of specifically select plants and a meat based diet) ALL of my bodies dysregulation disappeared within months. Longevity in relation to diet IS uniquely individual.

[@anakinskywalker192]

Can you name the company?

[@tcotroneo]

Lex.. you need to interview someone like Gabe Brown or John Kempf To get a farmers perspective.. I can tell you straight up from experience that lettuce is probably one the easiest crops to grow due to its very low nutritional requirements, but fits the mold of a top leafy green food, excellent for health.. Yet, take a peach tree for example, which requires so many more things (higher nutritional requirements, animal/insect pressures, weather) and only gets one chance a year to bear fruit.. Even if it bears fruit that year! Especially if your following a more holistic approach and not babying the tree with fertilizers, herbicides, and fungicides.. I’d eat that peach in season anyday over that lettuce.. Also, a very healthy plant will develop fat metabolites, which are indigestible by insects.. you can see this in extremely glossy leaves on plants.. Plants that receive intense insect pressure are metabolically challenged, and are edible by insects.. So if I went to a local organic farm stand and saw a broccoli head with insect holes in the leaves and those leaves were faded green in color or a cabbage head that was dark green and no insect damage, I’d take the cabbage.. It will possess more nutrition and taste better.. I’m sure our ancestors did the same and avoided insect infested plants and fruits.. It’s challenging now, because we monoculture food and baby it, to produce consistent outcomes…

[@anthonyc5039]

That’s interesting, reminds me how deer herds need predators to be successful. I’m sure babying our plants is causing the same problem. I’ll def check out what you were talking about, thanks for taking the time to leave your comment!

[@bighands69]

You just do not want to eat too many peaches. Free vegetables should be the foundation of most diets. And then you can eat some fruit, meat and fish if you desire but not too much.

[@tcotroneo]

@@anthonyc5039 That is what we call “mob grazing”. Predator pressure caused tighter herds, that ate what was available and moved on.. We can mimic this with small paddock sizes and frequent rotations.. Greg Judy has a KZbin channel dedicated to this…

[@rexiiforsure9558]

I would like to know the diets of people who have lived a long time, like say, Henry Kissinger. As of Sept ‘21 he’s 98. But Im sure longevity also has something to do with genealogy. That might be a strike against me as my father only lived to 59, even though he ate well and didn’t smoke, etc

[@etg9080]

What killed your father?

[@michalnovak1709]

Look up blue zones diets

[@florrie8767]

Yes and the royal family always live over 100 years but they get the best medical care and eat organic food from.duchy estate and meat uch as venison from their estate too and probably meat like grouse as they shoot.

[@Schauche]

yes. Gen play a big role,and it cannot change. what dr.Sinclair try to do is try to change epepigenetic.

[@gringotroller]

Blood of the innocent

[@rickywoods3101]

It's like listing to the exact opposite , other doctors say spinach is one of the worse plants to eat because of chemical in the plant

[@andrewblack7852]

The hadza people don’t farm and eat lots of meat while having no heart trouble, no obesity, no depression, and no diabetics... so there is a lot more than meat or plant. A lot more.

[@Enigmatized13]

@@ludovicosforza9576 They also keep an incredibly active lifestyle. That has to help immensely.

[@chrisbrown2211]

💯

[@alexander_richter]

You guys don’t understand. It’s much less about preventing obesity and much more about reducing genetic ageing at the molecular level. David mentioned mTOR here. Look it up.

[@18883434262]

They eat a lot of tubers as well

[@gilbertodelavega359]

Cope

[@RishabhSharma10225]

In case you didn't know, this dude is 52 years old.

[@ryanackert1536]

Crazy right

[@Brainbuster]

Lex is 35 (just for easy reference, not claiming anything, doesn't prove anything, I just looked it up is all)

[@SeanOCallaghan0106]

@@Brainbuster he's 37/38

[@QuantumMind88]

Yeah, Mr. Sinclair is doing something right because he looks extremely young compared to his age.

[@deeznuts6907]

He spends a lot of money on his face, it’s not from diet alone

[@2pi628]

Just a thought.... Mtor activity was heavily reduced in plains native American tribes even though they were Carnivores. Their lifestyle of fasting and feasting kept it at bay. Diet Update: I'm on what I call the "Comanche diet". Raiding parties went out for weeks and sometimes months at a time. And they didn't bring the kitchen sink or a squaw with them. While out they simply didn't eat but every few days. They ate only after making a kill(deer, bear, bison), or successfully raiding another tribe or settlers. After which they would feast. Then fast --> rinse, and repeat. I do one or two 40-48 hour fasts per week. Then feast in a four to six hour window. I eat Rib-eyes, hamburger, butter, and onions. Oh yeah, and Worcestershire sauce. I know it's poison but it's probably better than having a six pack of beer.

[@Jacob-uv1kh]

How do you have that information that mTOR was heavily reduced in plains native Americans?

[@2pi628]

@@Jacob-uv1kh ... because they didn't eat for days. They fasted. It was common for raiding parties(Comanche) to be out for weeks at a time. They had a huge hunting/raiding range.

[@florentchif4551]

At Okinawa they eat mainly pork. The idea they don't eat meat is based on post war survey at a time the pork population had been cut by 90% due to war.

[@artvsmachine3703]

They aren't talking about Okinawan's today, because they've started adopting the western diet. In the past they ate mostly sweet potatoes. Look it up.

[@deanbodishowpodcast9437]

Wow - the diet dilemma will never end. 🤓🤓

[@deanbodishowpodcast9437]

@@hhjhj393 Maybe 106 years 🤓

[@quarantees8736]

So how do we grow extremely stressed plant foods in our yards? That seems ideal.

[@juukame]

Throw passive aggressive insults at them every morning letting them know they're lives have no meaning other than to provide you with nutrition. They say existential stress produces the best flavor

[@gs-nq6mw]

Let them fight against insect and diseases

[@destraw6221]

Some farmers play classical music on stereos for their crops, I think it has something to do with stimulating plant growth. You could try playing Aphex Twin.

[@WilliamParkerer]

Just don't use pesticides

[@jogo798]

Play rock music, it will increase their stress

[@AndrewHedlund100]

People that live a long time usually have good attitude social relationships probably live in a warm climate and get to live life at a leisurely pace

[@MTDesolator]

"You want the David Goggins of vegetables" xD Love that xD

[@jefflittle8913]

A couple notes. First berries and some fruits (eg. strawberries) actually do not have very much sugar. Look it up in a calorie app if you don't believe me. Second, if you are low carb, you consider ice cream, donuts, and French Fries to be carbs, whereas these are all fats if you are a low fat dieter. Both groups agree that these are less healthy and broccoli is more healthy. To see the difference between what a low fat and a low carb person thinks about the term carb, check the calorie count of an ounce French Fries vs baked potato. If you are talking about healthy carbs, then the low carb approach is better.

[@gazlives]

unfortunately the low fat narrative and guidance we've had for half a century is directly responsible for the catastrophic explosion in modern diseases like diabetes, heart disease, cancer. they are all metobolic diseases. if you reduce fat you have to replace it with carbs like sugar and often refined grans (which effectively are sugars).

[@IvanRandomDude]

@@gazlives Do you really think average human eats less fat then they are supposed to? Rofl, everything is full of fat nowadays.

[@JoyfulUniter]

I think you'd be surprised, or perhaps not, at how large a role placebo has in aging. The environment for the cells is first and foremost your internal elecromagnetic signature, how you think, and how you feel, second is your nutrition, third is the external environment.

[@joelbarish]

Yes! Most people don't realise this.

[@shuugaaaa]

Excellent point!

[@aaronmannofficial]

I personally don’t think fruit is the enemy, it’s a good way to keep your glucose levels healthy and strengthen willpower 💪🏼

[@sassysandie2865]

In addition to lots of healthy fiber.

[@parsonsfra]

Yeah I'm not sure what he was getting at there. Fruit generally doesn't cause a significant glucose spike. Especially blueberries. Blueberries even lower blood sugar spikes when eaten along with high carb meals, despite blueberries being relatively high in sugar.

[@InterestingFactsAboutNature]

Too much of anything is not good even fruit.

[@godsofthesingularity8308]

I heard glycine supplementation counteracts the aging effects of methionine

[@matthewzang6688]

I found it interesting how you guys discussed certain ethical questions throughout the podcast, until animal products were brought up. It would be amazing to see you have a discussion with Alex O’Connor from Cosmic Skeptic.

[@charlieparkeris]

@@blakedavis6193 I don't forget my ethics or logic. I would say it is illogical to expect humans to not eat meat. Our brains grew large, and our intestines got smaller due to choosing to eat animals over eating plants. This is why we're human. Then since the agricultural revolution, and the increasing reliance on plants for food, the human brain has been shrinking again. Since our brain and intelligence is what makes us human, and logic is very much of the brain, the logical thing to do is eat animals. Unless you hate humans and favor intellectual regression for our species. Also, given that there are nutrients we require to live and thrive, that only exist in animal foods, it is not unethical to eat it, unless again, you're ashamed to be human. All living things must consume other life to stay alive, this is the nature of reality. It's not shameful or wrong. A vegan is not more logical, or more ethical than me. They can try to impose their ethics, but I reject them.

[@SapientEudaimonia]

@@charlieparkeris There are quite some fallacies in your comment unfortunately. I hope you try to look for them yourself.

[@charlieparkeris]

@@SapientEudaimonia Why not point them out? Otherwise, your comment is worthless.

[@SapientEudaimonia]

@@charlieparkeris It would be better if you'd think for yourself first, and try some genuine (self)reflection.

[@charlieparkeris]

@@SapientEudaimonia I've thought for myself, that is how I've landed at the reasoning I've landed at. It's possible I've already thought of what you're thinking of and discounted it, but it's impossible for me to know because you won't state your own position. I'm open to being corrected, but you're not being helpful, leaving your comments as you have, you're only being dismissive and condescending. Maybe some self-reflection on your part wouldn't go amiss. When you point a finger at others, your other 3 fingers point back toward yourself

[@mastersplinter666]

This man sounds like BJJ Coach John Danaher. There voices are very soothing.

[@phsal5182]

thank you

[@andrewa182]

What about that many animal studies show that ketosis extends lifespan and that it is easier to stay in ketosis on a diet where the calories are mostly meat. Not impossible to stay in ketosis on plant based, but still very difficult if not impracticle

[@smallbeginning2]

You know, once I grew some cucumbers and it was going gang busters, until one weekend I went away. It was unexpectedly scorching hot and when I came back I found these pathetic plants , covered in flies and ants all wilted to nothing. But the cukes themselves still looked pretty good. A couple looked amazing. I swear I got high eating those that night. As I was eating them my tongue was tingling, they were so delicious and juicy. I just felt incredible well being that evening. ❤️

[@wjerame]

Vegies some of them have chemicals similar to pollen and when you eat them your body will release small amounts of histamines and its the slight allergic reaction that makes youre tongue tingle.

[@banparlous2552]

@FearfulArtist88 Yup. I get that w/ most plants. My lips swell & my mouth & throat get all itchy. From fruit, veggies to legumes & nuts. I'm 4 years Ketovore, w/ 90% -95% meat diet & I love it. Dropped abt 50 lbs at the start of it too.

[@larsbee]

@@banparlous2552 seriously how do u poop ... I had a nice tender piece of lamb and I'm done with meat for the next weeks ... I'm in Singapore often and when they get together there is one vege dish and ten meat ... I get suck just watching it ... maybe it is because I know of where most meats come from .. factory farming...

[@banparlous2552]

@@larsbee Fiber is contraindicated

[@jacklabonte6839]

Are you sure it was cucumber you were eating?😜🤪

[@noahninetyone]

I wonder their opinions on Goylent 🤔

[@noahninetyone]

@@user-ui9pe5ci3g Oy vey!

[@anthonyz9197]

What about using sugar in a fermentation process? Should that be avoided as well?

[@usada3027]

yeah

[@utubevenky]

I have been mulling about the meat only diet(carnivore diet) and the relevance of that to humans given the predisposition of human body to plant or atleast plant+meat based diet rather than just meat only diet...the predisposition is due to many factors ranging from the teeth type, pH of stomach acid, alimentary canal, intestines, absence of vitamin C synthesis,requirement of fiber etc. There is so much discussion about carnivore diet & this conversation just puts an end to that if one is bothered about longevity. Having said that, too much carb based diet which is common in plant based diet (due to ignorance & poor planning) poses even more danger than meat only diet. It all reminds me of one thing, human body is the most sophisticated machine in the world and at the same time the most vulnerable as well. its a paradox

[@HowardFeinstein]

Watching you Lex makes me feel in the presence of greatness. Thank you for your hard work.

[@11OBlitzO11]

5:05 hit ... literally just took a sip of juice.

[@michelfingado202]

Death is crouching at your door... 😬

[@Magicalfluidprocess]

Time and space are functions of ones conceptual scheme

[@outsidethepyramid]

I wonder how much longer the mice lived in rafael de carvalho's study. It all hinges on how that life expectancy translate to me.

[@shin-ishikiri-no]

Just keep eating meat bro who cares about longevity? lol Real men work out and eat BACON. Haha True story.

[@larsmaas5302]

I don't think simple sugars are necessary bad. But the high insulin spike you get from them is. This can partially be negated however, by slowing down digestion. This is why I don't eat things like fruit on their own, but after a meal.

[@MIbra96]

In my experience a little 20 minute walk after the meal also helps with controlling blood sugar.

[@cIeetz]

fruit isnt going to spike your insulin for shit. its like 5% of what drinking a soda or eating candy does. Its natural and harmless. Fruit and vegetables reverse diabetes, they dont contribute to it.

[@shaktishaker]

the one issue is that food allergies are far more often to plant foods as opposed to meats. I think the pesticide issue is a far bigger issue than whether or not you eat meat or plant based.

[@FTLNewsFeed]

I think that's why he said organic, so no pesticides used, and locally grown, so you know that it's not some company who is skirting the spirit of the organic label.

[@rachelandriani484]

No way, I'm allergic to all animals protein

[@jasonmiller1076]

"You want the David Goggins of the vegetables" LMAO

[@NickT00nY]

whats his opinion on oxalates? since spinach has a lot of oxalates and damaging on the long term

[@maniac577]

Oxalate theory is absolute BS

[@benjaminmanion6530]

He’s right about eating leafy greens but it’s ridiculous to say you should avoid berries and other brightly colored fruits high in fiber vitamins and minerals. Those have some of the highest antioxidant levels so berries should be an important part of your diet I don’t know why he is picking and choosing. The fiber in the varies stops the sugar spike. Of course we all know you shouldn’t consume refined foods like juice

[@gazlives]

don't listen to lab scientists about subjects they have little knowledge of

[@Pillowlips77]

In europe if you're using a juicer, it separates the fibre from the juice and if you're drinking a glass of that it's just going to be a sugar overload. I've seen most americans use a blender which still has the fibre but it's better to eat berries as is rather than make a juice or whatever.

[@cIeetz]

probly cause he really doesnt know nearly as much as he leads on

[@youngson6005]

in South Korea they had this debate three times. the meat advocate came back three time, while the plant based advocate had three different people come on. because two of the plant base / vegan advocate died of cancer.

[@danielsanderson790]

All the studies on diet and cancer show a 14% lower risk of cancer ‘on average’ among vegetarians and vegans (vs regular meat eaters), you can still get cancer with whatever diet you eat though

[@thoughtfulpro371]

Plant based 🍌🥬🍇🥒🥑🥕🫑🍊🍋 my European family have always been vegetarian. Eating cheese and eggs from neighbors farms only on very special occasions or holidays. We just love animals and this is how our traditional recipes developed. It works well and everyone lives a long time without disease.

[@zbigniewiksinski]

"my European family have always been vegetarian" suer thing dude

[@artvsmachine3703]

@@Black-Circle Way more of them are killed in farming crops just to feed animals in animal agriculture. So, I guess they are arguing that killing massively less animals is better than killing tons more. Percentages, I think.

[@daeinkang9136]

Out of the group once a day- was there a difference between what they ate or was that negligible?