EBL Lithium Vs Ni-MH Rechargeable AA Batteries Review | Freeze Test

[@HOBOTECH]

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[@LouisPhilip9]

Can you speak on the pros / cons of recharging single use alkaline batteries as I have done a few times ?

[@waynegnarlie1]

I found this video very useful. It confirms the test results we made, except we drained them at the 5ma average load our product requires. In actual use, the Lithium Energizer's gave 6-8 months of typical 4hr daily use. None of the other batteries even made it 25% there.

[@WildCaptures]

I was hopeful that the rechargeable lithium batteries would be better I spend about 70/80$ dollars a year on single use lithiums for all my trail cameras. Great test 👍

[@donaldharlan3981]

Chinese batteries are manufactured to different standards, based on their environment. Batteries for use in topical/humid countries, usually don't last long, so they are manufactured with economy in mind. For example; handling wet/moist phone, in the rain, drains your battery faster, than non rainy days. 🪫 Also you have educated me: the world lithium supply is short, they are using lower quality lithium. In fact Elon Musk has been selling dirty lithium, which requires expensive chemical purifying, and is also inferior quality. 🔋 Please cut off Tesla from MY lithium supply completely.

[@carlbrown5150]

What ever happened to reachable alkaline? Rayovac had those years ago.!!😉

[@markadkins673]

I would love to see more content on smaller battery systems. Rechargeable AA, AAA, etc. And even small battery banks and small solar panels

[@__WJK__]

I second that! Battery tests on the smaller battery sizes (including alternative chemistries) would be a great addition to the channel, and pease continue testing cold weather performance as well!

[@alotaku]

Mee toooooo

[@stinkycheese804]

Have you ever heard of youtube? They have videos about that. Already. I'm a bit confused though, what do you mean when you wrote the "AA" or do you not understand that this size was used in the video?

[@subject2change313]

I do realize this was a departure from your normal reviews but I must admit it was very informative and I found it to be intriguing enough to hold my attention throughout.

[@SpinStar1956]

I'm confused (and an electrical engineer): In both tests the lithium got flaky within 1 hour in both tests; so I was hoping you would have monitored the voltage with a meter during the discharge by slipping some fine-wires into the battery-compartment contacts. The reason is that you stated "some electronics have to have the 1.5Vs" but if the lamp was flickering, either it is defective or you were dipping below 1.5V sine the lamp assumes alkaline-battery usage. Finally, I really appreciate your tests as I was going to buy the lithiums-- so you really saved me a bunch--so thank you! If people have the ability to outboard the battery-packs, you can add one more of the NiMH to fix the voltage problem; sometimes you can modify the wiring and just add a single battery holder. This trick will also solve the cold weather voltage droop.

[@3GreeneBJ]

I am guessing that it was the electronics that didn't like the cold. Even the clock won't like that much! The load needs to be a passive resistance. Something realistic for an AA cell. What would you say? 50 to 100mA as a compromise?

[@johnpcunningham]

I saw the same flicker in a 60 day lantern using D cell Lithium rechargeable. The flicker is due to the internal buck converter frequencies. I took my lantern apart and simply soldered in a 22uf capacitor across the +\- leads and the flicker went away. For you EEs out there I’m sure you know why. I bet a 10uf or others would probably work as well. Cap has no effect when going back to alkaline batteries.

[@photoniccannon2117]

NiZN batteries are another alternative, they have a natural cell voltage of around 1.6 volts and don't need an internal voltage regulator. They do have some of their own drawbacks, namely that the self-discharge rate increases after about 20-30 cycles, but they have relatively comparable capacity to most lithium-ion rechargeable AAs.

[@stephenjones9153]

Strange how the majority of Phones,Tablets and Laptops now use Lithium batteries for there superior run time and capacity compared to NiMH and NiCads. Also here in the UK a KZbin channel did a test on the EBL batteries and they tested the worst out of all the brands, Panasonic came out top.

[@Telephonebill51]

I had it explained to me thus: NiMH are good for high-current items. like cordless screwdrivers, drills, etc, WITHOUT resorting to stacking amperage in the battery packs or high mechanical gear ratios, and has a charged shelf life of about a month, tops. Li-Ion, on the other hand, stays charged much longer and is cheaper (or should be), but because of obvious market considerations, will never be seen as a replacement for regular disposable alkaline batteries, That would crash the market.

[@felaxchow207]

I would like to say that you definitely hit this one out of the park. I think the reason why the rechargable lithium AA fall short is due to conversion losses from 3.6 volts to 1.5 volts nominal. Compared to a designed specific device that can use a protected single NMC 18650 cell and is able to make full use of its discharge curve in temperatures low as -20° C. I too use AA, AAA, and 9 volt variant of the single use lithum batteries for test instruments that are used in low temperature enviroments around the -40° C territory and it bites really hard on the wallet when it comes time to replace them. Even with that expense, I have save hundreds of dollars in repair costs of my various test equipment caused by leaky alkaline batteries.

[@skidaddledude1997]

If the manufacturers could improve the voltage conversion electronics for the lithium cells these should be the winner.

[@rfvtgbzhn]

​@@skidaddledude1997that probably would also make them even more expensive though.

[@3GreeneBJ]

Are you saying - telling me/us that as the intrinsic output of Lithium is 3.6V that there's an inverter within each "cell" ? Oh surely not! Isn't there a chemical way to get what you want from the lithium in this case. And hey, what makes the difference between primary and secondary operation of lithium? Do I sound like a dope? The advance in technology is making fools of us all. You can never say never... !! Explain please BjG

[@tauncfester3022]

@@3GreeneBJ Well no the only other way to reduce the voltage involves a resistor and that means wasted energy as heat, the Dc to DC buck converters are very efficient but they also as the voltage in the Lithium cell drops become less efficient and start eating more current there comes a point where the voltage drops to a point where the current consumed hits the voltage discharge cliff and the lithium cell protection circuit just cuts it off to save the lithium battery from discharging too far.

[@traviss589]

I’ve been using the envelope Nimh batteries for over 10 years and I love them.

[@anthonymarino4260]

mine are more then 10. years. work great

[@ralphsmith8350]

What is an envelope battery??

[@hishamalias1192]

I know about eneloope brand but not envelope.. usually use envelope to a letter not power source

[@photoniccannon2117]

@@ralphsmith8350 Autocorrect, I think they meant eneloop.

[@tauncfester3022]

I have an old RC transmitter that has a 12 year old Tenergy 9.6 volt, 1700 mAh AA pack that's still takes a near full charge. What I've discovered recently is that the Amazon branded 2000 mAh AA nimh cells are really decent and they don't self discharge nearly as bad as the old Tenergy pack does.

[@markmonroe7330]

Excellent video. A comparison with others such as the Enloop Pro or standard Enloop would be fun. Also some tests with various 18650’s.

[@__WJK__]

I second that, please test 18650s in both Li-ion & NIMH chemistries. --And please continue to do cold weather testing!

[@ItsEverythingElse]

@@__WJK__ Do they even make Ni-MH 18650s any more?

[@OnusBones]

Check out the channel "Project Farm" for NiMH and Li-ion battery tests!

[@lazerusmfh]

@@ItsEverythingElseeneloop and eneloop pro (25% more capacity but significantly lower number of cycles 500 vs 2100 and they self discharge faster 85% after 1 yr vs 90%). Ikea has their own house brand rechargeable called LADDA that is very economically priced and comparable to the vanilla eneloop. And batteries are rated to perform down to -20c Stick to nimh lion is a gimmick and will perform worse

[@bcr003]

@@__WJK__ never heard of an 18650 nimh. Not me at least

[@schneider4414]

Great video. Very informative, especially for those of us who don't have a large lithium generator, but use outdoor cameras or small battery powered accessories.

[@tedbellWRV]

I've used the EBL lithium rechargeable batteries for several years now. I initially went to lithium for two main reasons: 1) alkaline batteries often leak and ruin the device - especially in low discharge devices (e.g. clocks), where they can be working for a year or more. 2) To reduce land-fill waste. One the past 3 or 4 years, I've used dozens of EBL lithium batteries in several devices around the house. I use them in clocks, TV/Roku remotes, Christmas lights, etc. However, I use the "black jacket" USB charging version of the EBL. Each 4-pack of the black jacket USB charging version comes with a USB "octopus" charging cable allowing 4 batteries to charge per USB charging port. I had a lot better luck with the black USB version than the red jacket batteries. The black jacket is rated at 3300 kWh, or 10% more than the red jacket. They seem to charge more reliably and I get longer life. I tried the red version like you used and the white version (Fuvaly branded), with a magnetic tip for charging - but neither was reliable, So far, I've never had a black jacket EBL battery stop taking a charge. One aspect of the rechargeable batteries you did not mention is the output in amps. You can find this spec listed for some of the batteries. The black jacket version is rated at a 2A discharge rate by over-current protection per spec on Amazon. High discharge devices like a travel waterpic or electronic toys need more oomph than the lithium batteries can provide and only alkaline can suffice. Finally, I notice certain devices, like my Ambient outdoor weather station, specifically recommend to use lithium, but not rechargeable. I have a single-use lithium in the weather station that backs up the solar panel. So far it has been working for about 2 to 3 years. Even in outdoor temperatures that have ranged from 115F in Tucson to -10F in the mountains of Idaho.

[@andrewp.schubert2417]

Duracell copper tops have ruined so many of my flashlights and other devices

[@1badmini1]

this guy is using 2800mah......you can get 8000mah and they will outlast the nimh and alkaline 🤦🤦🤦 and hes suppose to be smart.😂😂😂😂

[@blairpoll287]

There are no 8000mah lithium aa batteries ​@@1badmini1

[@hipsteralex6761]

Yooooo, this is why this guy is my homie.

[@bobbastian760]

Test was deeply flawed, see other comments.

[@laneyemmons4257]

I was very curious about this. Thank you for running this test.

[@marcfruchtman9473]

Thanks for doing this evaluation. Somewhat surprising results. I had been eyeballing those EBLs for a while!

[@ecleveland1]

I used Sanyo Eneloop rechargeable batteries, AAA, in my digital audio recorder for college. The same pair of batteries lasted 5 years,2013-2018, with no hiccups and they are still going as of today.04/2023. I bought two pair of the Eneloop batteries, one pair for my recorder and one for my wife's. This was by far the best money I've ever spent on batteries.

[@WhenTheManComesAround]

Great to see ya!! My brother and I were literally talking about not seeing you for awhile about 45 minutes ago. So it's great to know you're still rockin 👍👍😁

[@Moes_Prep_and_Tech]

I appreciate seeing a Review like this Something Relatable and Different. I would actually use this in my personal setup.

[@EQINOX187]

I used to use the white EBL Ni-MH version all the time mostly in my PC gaming mouse however the issue i always ran into is they would never last long before they started to trigger the low power on the mouse, so then i went for the Black EBL lithium that you need to plug in and while performance was great 2 of the batteries had the little USB plug fail, this was actually a good highlight of the customer support as EBL refunded the cost of the 2 batteries over a year after purchase, eventually I moved on to the EBL red and they have been fantastic and my gaming mouse takes 2 AAs and last about a month and that's daily use for many hours. One trap people fall into however is these lithium AA rechargeable s are designed for low drain applications and if you try to use them in a high drain they will not work well as the internal protection will limit, those LED lights actually use quite a lot of current and so the flickering you see is the power converter struggling to maintain enough current, single use lithium on the other hand still has a internal board but without the charge components it can be dedicated to increased power output. One inconsistency with your test is that lights are never a good measure of battery life when comparing different battery technology, the lithium will drain until the cell can no longer output a stable 1.5v due to the 4.2v lithium cell reaching its min capacity, Ni-MH on the other hand will just keep draining until every drop of power is gone and so in a light test it makes the Ni-MH look good because the light is still glowing but in reality the voltage left has more than likely fallen well below any usable voltage for any electronic use

[@fobiastate6815]

Hey thanks for the insights it's really helpful. I am planning to buy an Orochi V2 wireless razer gaming mouse and initially i was planning to go for Duracell Nimh rechargeable batteries but i'm probably gonna run into going into low power mode too early as well if i go for those batteries since they have 1.2V. I wanted to ask you, since EBL blacks have more capacity in comparison to the red ones, why did you make the change to the red ones, is it only because they have this weird micro usb to charge them with and the usb plugs kind of sound unreliable on the long run or were there any other reasons?

[@EQINOX187]

@@fobiastate6815 the EBL black are decent and the 2 i still have still hold a good charge but yeah the main reason i went with the red was due to the micro USB on the blacks, the USB is not a bad idea but i think it is not properly mechanically supported and the charge lead they gave is basically 2" long and all the batteries plug into it and so end up hanging from the micro plug and well of the ones i had 2 of USB plug failed, i did think just to go with the black ones again but then thought well if they fail again i will have to deal with it. The red ones are slightly lower capacity but not enough to, matter but over all a far better design as it comes with a USB charge dock that you just push the batteries into when they need charged ( a lot like the old nimh ). One quirk with the 1.5v lithium batteries is that they will output a constant 1.5v until they no longer can due to the internal cell getting to low and then they will internally switch off, so you will find that your mouse will not warn you when the batteries are low and it will just stop working.

[@fobiastate6815]

@@EQINOX187 Hi thanks once again. I think i'd rather go with not being warned about low battery over almost constantly being warned about it even when it's not really the case. Idk what kind of power optimizations mouse producers go for when they switch to low power mode but i don't want my mouse to feel clunkier or feel like some cheap wireless mouse. I just want to have an overall decent wireless mouse experience, am by no means a shooter gamer or a competitive gamer in any way. Ideally i'd probably also go with the reds but smallest pack i could find is with 8 pieces right now and it's simply unnecessarily too much which then would cost me 40 euros for rechargeable batteries : ) Anyways thanks again for the helpful infos ^_^

[@stinkycheese804]

Except that when your goal is to power lights with them, it would be madness to test in something other than the lights you need to use them in. Besides, that is still testing battery life, but apparently not in your target use, so you too, will need to test in your specific devices. There is no universal test that will tell you how each individual device design handles voltage drop. Also, no those LED lights do not use much current at all in the grand scheme of things. Math PLEASE! They ran 27 hours off ~ 2000mAH cells, a mere 74mA avg is quite low compared to most devices besides clocks and remote controls. It is true that as the NiMH voltage drops, the lights will output less, and this is why they last that much longer, but there will be several hours when they still continue to output a usable amount of light, before becoming too dim for that last few % of their capacity. This is often desirable on a light instead of facing sudden darkness without warning.

[@ranig2848]

Great video. Would love to see comparison to some other AA lithium batteries.

[@eugene4817]

I switched to Ikea's NiMH LADDA AAs and AAAs a while ago and am very happy with them, always carry a spare batt just in case, they don't discharge for a long time on their own and proved to be as reliable as I ever hoped for. They are still made in Japan batts too.

[@StudioGalvan]

I use these for my Camera Flashes. They'll last an entire wedding. 😃

[@jghall00]

I just bought some. I think they're rebadged Eneloops.

[@PerilousPaddy]

​@@jghall00 Yes they are manufactured in the factory that makes Eniloop and on a video that I watched they run the same power/amps/time so I have 36 of them I cycle through

[@iReturnV1deotapes]

You should make a followup comparing these to the Eneloop AAs. Theyre supposed to be the gold standard in rechargable AA cells. I would be very curious how they compare.

[@practicalguy973]

Yeah Eneloops are better than some thats for sure. I had some Amazon brand NIMH many years ago in a headlamp on a winter hike and when it was -10F outside the light stopped working at the end of the hike at night, my friend had Eneloops in his and working no issues. I looked it up and Eneloops were built with better contact points on the caps of the cells and claimed to perform in freezing temps. So been using Eneloops ever since, they also have more than twice the cycle life of the EBL in this video and better low self discharge.

[@HutchinsonJC]

Yeah, Eneloop is all I've used for a lot of years. Even before Panasonic bought Eneloop it was my go to.

[@Guardian_Arias]

Eneloop are NiMH batteries and are the gold standard BUT if you do some digging the same cell makes it way into some other brands. For example some Amazon Basics NiMH with a specific color scheme used to be the same exact cell as the Eneloop cells. For a while there Amazon was tossing around all kinds of rechargeable battery chemistries from different origins but i think they have settled with NiMH sourced from Panasonic. But not sure at the moment.

[@WizzRacing]

I been using them for years. As I got tired of buying 25 packs at home depot..The AA-AAA are still taking full charges 4 years later.. So they saved me $200.00 compared to the use once and toss it out brand... Just buy a good charger like XTAR...They are programmed to get the best out of them...

[@williamparker8318]

Ok, I've been using the lowly Eneloop (Panaonic) AA 1900 mAh 1.2V Ni-MH batteries for a number of years. They are 3.06 each. Now when I did research on the larger EBL 3000 and 28OO, I found that because of the larger diameter, they won't fit in some products. So I stuck with the Eneloop. Now being rechargeable, this is no big issue in lighting, you just charge every day or every other day. And this is no big deal if you have the right stuff. I use those yellow D Battery shells that use 3 AA each and my lantern takes three D's. It can do well with 9 AA's in this case even though the cost comes down to 27.21 in batteries. (The EBL 3000 are 42.75 for nine and the 2800mAh are 16.86 for nine). I'm going to get 2100 ish charges (hopefully). Yes I had to buy the special charger. I have a portable solar panel and a solar generator. So I'm getting a middle of the road battery (cost / performance wise ) and a battery that will easily fit any product out there. Cheers.

[@scottlopez9366]

Excellent video and a nice twist from your other subjects. You captivated me the entire time and brought back my old electric RC plane days. One additional fact you didn't touch on was electric charge costs though it would have to be very high to make a difference. Thanks for the subject surprise! You're #1! !

[@alexandres8846]

Nickel metal hydride batteries are the best option for household appliances. They are safe, have good capacity and long life.

[@raybarr2224]

I liked this video, I believed your opinion since you had no sponsor money except for your Amazon. Good job Professor. Can I make a suggestion! Incorporate some Dr Demento into your videos 👍

[@Banagal]

Very interesting video indeed. I shared this video with my husband because he has multiple cameras that need batteries. He's had rechargeable and non-rechargeable batteries.

[@frankenfoamy]

Enjoyable review. I have tested a few brands. The first thing to mention is these 1st generation 1.5 V lithium cells give a full 1.5 volts then nothing. This means the weakest cell in a group determines when the entire pack can produce any voltage. Cycling the batteries a few times before testing gave significantly better results. ( testing on 500 mA load) The 2nd generation have a 1.1 volt cut off which gives a brief warning when the cells are empty. The largest capacity, 3600 mWh gave the worse mAh test 1566 mAh. The 3500 mWh cells were consistently over 2200 mAh. Devices that can operate over a large range of voltage will test better with Nimh and primary batteries. I was testing for wildlife cameras which would stop working without notice. I estimate the time they work and charge the batteries a week before their anticipated exhaustion.

[@payecarrillo6290]

I bought the EBL white battery about 2 years ago with charger. Good deal on Amazon and I also purchased the 9-volt EBL batteries with charger. I am so pleased with them I'am glad I made the right choice watching this video. Awesome job! Thank you!

[@theyellowtiburon]

I checked and did hear "clockes 😀. I have lots of rechargeable batteries and recharge them with solar. I would have thought the Lithium would have been the best. Now I don't have to buy any. Thanks! Been watching you a long time!

[@kengentry970]

Just wanted to say I really liked the review. I've easily spent $10000 based on your testing. Never been disappointed ..ever. ...really liked the topic of rechargeables also .

[@mc9551]

Great test. Would be nice to see you test other AA batteries. One time use & rechargeable. Thanks

[@kele1264]

I LOVE this video. This is very responsible testimony that we need waaaay better rechargeable batteries so that fewer batteries wind up in landfills. I really want to use rechargeables, but they have to give me what I need above what I already buy (Energizer lithium, same as you showed here). Thank goodness I just don't use a lot of batteries to begin with. I do have those camping lanterns stationed around the house for power outages. Glad that doesn't happen often. Thanks for this awesome video! ODIN!!!! THOR!!!!

[@shaunhall960]

Thank you Professor! I've been curious about nickel hydride batteries for some time. Reviewing more types would be great.

[@philindeblanc]

Dont waste your time...Just buy the Ikea AA, AA as long as they are the Japanese makes, they are Panasonic/Enloop equals. Sometimes Amazon brand is rebranded Enloops as well. FYI, if you use high discharge items, like a camera flash, the lithium is the way to go, as powertools use them for the discharge-ability of the 1.5volt multiplier. This is still decent info. I may prefer to use Alkaline in my camp lights or remote controls.

[@Pizzpott]

Thank you for this video. Every battery I own (apart from the two in my Central heating Control Unit which are plain Lithium Energizer batteries) are Energizer 2300mA Ni-Mh AA and AAA's. I have loads of them and have three chargers to charge them. Recently I have been considering getting Lithium rechargeable as in some cases the 1.5v might be better, for example my wireless keyboard and mouse which sometimes has issues being 12 feet away from my PC and TV. I was all set to send for 8 xAA's and a charger, but decided to check YT for any tests - hence your excellent upload. You have saved me a lot of money, about £70 as there is no way on this earth will I even entertain the possibility of changing from Ni-Mh now. Thank you again. As an aside, I have three of those camping lanterns, two as emergency lights in the house and one in the boot (trunk) of my car, Batteries are still holding enough charge after two years, for the lamps to work brightly - I am due to discharge and recharge them all this spring.

[@genevievebakkensen86]

I switched to rechargeable batteries several years ago and love them. They are initially a investment but as you demonstrated much cheaper in the long run. I always have extra backup batteries charged so when a lantern or candle dimmed there is a freshly charged battery ready to go just make sure all batteries are equal in strength when replacing and charging

[@carl799]

Thanks for testing these batteries. I found your findings very informative and helpful. I have been trying out pale blue lithium AA, AAA, and 9 volt batteries. Also have few EBL AA and AAA's. Not entirely to my satisfaction. The EBL AAA's seem to be a tiny bit longer and won't fit in my wife's headlamp where the Pale Blue AAA's will. So I would be very interested if you where to do the same test on pale blue and ebl USB rechargeable lithium batteries.

[@justabyker8243]

I very much did appreciate this comparison as sub freezing temps are a common issue for me and I had wondered about what would be a better investment for power.

[@thomasyung9162]

I think the advertised cycle life are very optimistic and don't trust them. My personal experience with NiMh batteries are that they fail to charge before the cycles are consumed. I enjoyed the video keep them coming!

[@juXtaPostion]

I adopted the EBL AA & AAA Li-ion as i use them in field audio recording equipment requiring 1.5V batteries and explicitly states that rechargeable 1.2V Ni-Mh is unsupported. I still get great run time in the recording equipment and am very happy with my purchase.

[@props-model-shop]

Thanks for making this video. I glad to see how these rechargabls lith performed/lack of performed.

[@D_Pete]

Excellent video!! THANK YOU!! Have wondered for a very long time now just how these lithium rechargeable fared in the ways you have tested. I am long time Eneloop user but really need the 1.5v for various camera duties. BUT... a little disappointed and concerned after I see the way they performed in your tests. Thank you again!! Keep up the good work! :)

[@athiker7209]

I enjoyed this video. I stocked up on EBL Ni-MH batteries, D, AA, and AAA. They have been working great and I have a system of rotating, so I don't accidently over use a set of batteries. About 1/4 way through the video, I was on Amazon, saving the lithium rechargeable batteries to my list. By 3/4 ways through the videos, I was deleting them from my list. I clearly followed your tests and thought you covered all the bases that most common users would put their batteries through. I feel kind of lucky that I purchased these NI-MH, and a good amount of them for all my under counter lighting. They recharge fairly quickly and I have enough in the bins to change out the batteries when guests are coming over and I want all lighting to be bright, otherwise I change batteries, when the lights becomes dim. See you next time!

[@LipsMalloy]

As others have mentioned, I'd love to see a comparison of several brands. I have some that have built-in usbc charging, and some that use a magnetic usb attachment. I've tried EBL, Soluser, Tenergy and others. Thanks for doing this review - very helpful.

[@sloanNYC]

I've come to really like having a set of 8 USB-C AA rechargeable because they can be charged anywhere and they go in my backpack. Then I have NiMH for stuff at the house.

[@aliceinmansonland448]

Thanks for testing and using a control, way too many people leave that step out. I have a similar pop up lantern from Harbor Freight and it drains Ni-MH batteries overnight. The lithium batteries are known to go poof if you ding them the wrong way, so you could have led with that. Instead you showed the complete picture and I commend you for it.

[@adventuresinAI1982]

I'm pleased that I have like 32 of those nickel metal hydride 2800 EBLs for my vanlife adventures.

[@NatureZone101]

Great video and yes, would love to see different brands tested. Thanks!

[@brightlightdun]

I’m surprised you are the first one to do these tests. The results are shocking. Thanks for sharing.❤

[@kbjerke]

This was a refreshing change from the usual "Solar Generator Review." We all need so *many* different styles and sizes of small batteries that the choices are overwhelming. For my "tactical" flashlights, however, I try to select ones that use the 18650 style of battery. Thanks for the video!

[@freeman-1776]

Great video. Yes, I would like to see videos on some of these smaller products. Like you said, most of us do not have the time to run these kinds of test and yet, I think all of us have been duped by these battery company scams. Personally, I usually modify the products I buy in order to get a better battery performance. It boggles the mind that we are still using AA, AAA, C, D sizes when we have rechargeable Lithium battery packs that are much better. I feel like the traditional battery companies are keeping us in the stone age.

[@michaellemon8287]

I don't think the traditional battery companies are keeping us in the stone age - it's just that lithium rechargeable batteries are not superior in all respects to traditional batteries. For example, they are more expensive, more dangerous, less universal, more difficult to manage. It is not cost effective nor environmentally friendly to use rechargeable lithium batteries in low drain devices like clocks or tv remotes where a set of alkaline batteries run for several years. This is just a different technology with different pros and cons.

[@panamalgato]

First time seeing you. Debating whether to go rechargeable battery or buying disposable ones. Great video! Didn't expect to watch the entire scientific process of it all, but I'm glad I did. You just got yourself a subscriber. Thank you!

[@diegovasquez7164]

Thank you so much. I was considering the new lithium rechargeable and you saved me time, heartache, and money.

[@darring2634]

Great video, love the 'new' thing. Also love the solar generator reviews, so keep 'em coming too.

[@mdunbar04]

Great Video. I Dig all things Hobo. Keep up the great work 😎😎

[@joeglennaz]

I really enjoy this video because I’ve often wondered about rechargeable batteries. The results are very shocking. I would be interested to see you test additional brands of lithium rechargeable’s.

[@oh_rhythm]

love your real life application tests and not just a bunch of graphs and numbers thanks

[@Sylvan_dB]

Great testing, thanks! You experience agrees completely with my much less rigorous observations. I have a few of the "individual USB socket" rechargeable AA and AAAs, and I found exactly what you described: they work in equipment that does not tolerate NiMH. In addition I have a a few things that end up ruining NiMH cells because they end up reverse charging a cell in the set while it works on just the remaining cells. I also use the "USB socket" lithium cells in those because the circuitry in each cell protects it.

[@user-zo6xg8bx4l]

Your channel has become the best of it's kind on KZbin. Thank you!!!

[@tdata545]

I'm so sorry; I haven't seen a proper winter in 5 years now, and I REALLY REALLY REALLY LIKE THAT TREND. Grew up in Chicago, lived there for 27 years, and now live on the Coast of Mississippi.

[@stevesheridan3511]

Love the fact your mixing it up some! Yet still In the same "ballpark" of reusable energy.

[@johnnylecroy7395]

Ive been using rechargeable batteries for years, started out with ni cad, then started using nickel, ive had some for years, even the harbor freight ones have been good, also i have a alkaline charger that gets me about 10 usage out of the battery, if i dont run it completely down, it will usually top off, back to 100%. Appreciate your videos, i learn alot of good info, thanks

[@philipdutton9831]

Great video! I've been using my eneloop Ni-MH AA batteries in some Harbor Freight Lanterns for years now. Cheap camping light and better for the environment. Yeah they don't last as long as alkaline but that's why I've also got solar to recharge them as needed.

[@RichieRich-l6s]

Hi Tom, I have several led flickering candles in the bathrooms for night lights. They have automatic 8hr timers built in. I've used every type of AA imaginable and wound up using reg. batteries from the Dollar Store 😊 8 ea. For $1.25. They aren't rechargeable of course, but they seem to have good longevity..Enjoy your shows..!! Cheers, Rich

[@damonried1720]

Excellent video as always. While a change from SoGens, it's still related to emergency electrical power which is why I follow this channel. I would have liked to see a mention of the fully charged shelf life of these rechargeable batteries. Alkaline batteries are ready to go years after purchase which makes them invaluable in rarely used emergency equipment. I suppose these rechargeables shine in frequently used devices.

[@__WJK__]

Rechargeables have actually come along way regarding idle self-discharge rates, and while they might not have the same ultra-low self-dischrage rates as alkalines, some are actually quite impressive.

[@chocolabs3574]

I wonder if the rechargeable lithium has some onboard protection circuits and that was limiting the cold weather performance

[@sweetsuccesstrading5097]

Great to see you back, doing Videos. I’m sure you took a Well deserved Break away from everything to Enjoy Life 😊

[@MWBFurlong]

Very useful for me, thank you. I was considering buying the EBL Li ion for my camping lights but decided to stick with the Nimh after watching this review.

[@matthoward1174]

I've had good luck with the EBL Ni-MH 2800s. and the Amazon Basics version as well. I used a bunch in single AA outdoor solar lights, out all year round, summer in the high 90s, winter down to 0 F. I tried 3 different brands of the 1.5 lithiums, including EBL, all 4 packs with the octopus cord, and they all SUCKED. None are worth having, or worth even the minute amount of space they take up. Great video,.. interesting subject !!!

[@gerry343]

Thanks for this, I'm definitely looking at the EBL Ni-MH batteries for my trail camera.

[@Fish_Ventura]

Dude I love it! Thank you. I have been using 9v EBL LI for my war we detectors. Charge lasts years

[@AGilbert_81]

I was on the fence which rechargeable to buy and this helped me a lot. Thanks Professor!

[@EugeneSan]

@HOBOTECH It would be interesting to see how those compare to Pale Blue Earth batteries. Those supposed to be the best 1.5V rechargables on the market and they come with 4-way charging USB-C cable so no need for special charger or cable mess.

[@mos8541]

NiMH?? oh jesus i thought we'd heard the last of that stuff years ago, i still got a few rolling around and since i never use them as intended i put them in a strong sack for use as morningstar... BAM!

[@RonHarrisMe]

I LOVE this information. We all have important things that run on batteries. I have a CO2 and Fire Detectors. My Google Smoke Detector takes like 10 AAA or AA Batteries. So buying the best, each time will save me a lot of money. And, you're kinda the ONLY KZbin I can really trust. So mix it up.. I am all for it.

[@jameswkirk]

Nice video. One issue I found with the constant 1.5 volt Lithium rechargeables is that in some lower load electronics there's no indication for low voltage, and found that some were discharged to the point that they could no longer be recharged, and that was after one or two uses. Perhaps using the cell voltage as a reference for the regulator to give them a more expected discharge curve. I've started experimenting with EBL Nickel-Zinc rechargeable which have a nominal 1.6 volt output. I'd be interested to see a video comparing them with other chemistries. One thing I've read is that they have higher self-discharge, so may not be suitable for things that get little use...

[@UPdan]

Amazing review !!! I just had bought the Stansport led 9' lantern, they sent me two, for $12+. Great lanterns and I ordered the Energizer 4 d cell battery lantern this morning and the solar charger for small batteries. This review was so timely. Got to get that clock.

[@imoldandurinmyway]

One thing you should consider adding is information about the voltage discharge curve. Many devices use this to tell you when your battery is low. If the discharge curve doesn't match the curve used in designing the device, you can be stranded with the sudden drop off curve of some battery types. Mostly not an issue, but for some applications ( avalanche transcievers) very important.

[@emilycohan]

Thanks for this vid! I’ve been wanting your take on these types of batts for a while. Cheers. 😊

[@TMS5100]

I liked the new content. This is more everyday practical use info vs the usual tests.

[@mr.makeit4037]

I use Tenergy Nimh aa aaa c and d cells all of which are rechargeable using solar charged usb chargers with lithium power packs. I have around 200 Nimh cells of varied sizes as stated above to power many applications in my homestead to eliminate 120v appliances. My system works great.

[@WILRARN]

Thanks for going through the expense and time, to set us all straight! Just a perfect video.

[@bendercs]

Excellent comparison. Always wondered how well these performed for the premium. I too use the Energizer lithium for outdoor applications with excellent results. I also have a boat load of Eneloop nimh batteries some success indoors. Unfortunately my portable ham radios don't like them due to the voltage.

[@ToddGajewski]

Great review Tom, how about a test between the Enloop & Enloop Pro Nimh rechargeable batteries? I use these in my cellular game cameras and really like the performance & longevity!

[@johnross6314]

Hobo Tech publishes yet another perfect timed video. Been fiddling around with EBL white and reds AA. Trash cans with electric lids, rechargeable under counter lights for kitchen, solar deck lighting, weather/wind/rain remote outdoor sensor, and yard solar charged spot lights. Both types worked well last summer in hot temps. No degradation. My sloppy tech testing in cold winter weather, plus inside seem similar results as Hobo The Gr8

[@yoanhotte5821]

In my case; You prevented me to pollute our planet with four more Lithium Rechargeable AA Batteries and as a bonus saved me a ton of money. So thanks for this informative video.

[@richardmclean9635]

Great video. I think you give the most in-depth information compared to others, on all the products you review.

[@frederickgrassie3383]

I have been using EBL, the white ones, in my RC boat transmitters, I love em. Thanks Professor!!😊

[@jamesthompson7282]

That was GREAT! Thanks for the off-beat test. Results completely unexpected.

[@marioarvizu7077]

Excellent info! Thanks so much, I finally can have a clear idea of differences and performance of those types of batteries

[@birdnv4547]

Thanks for doing this test - i will probably continue to use the Bunny Batts for their reliability - my rechargeable Lithium's did not last very long - Good Channel - always interesting and educational

[@Tommyr]

I stopped using Duraleaks years ago. Switched to Eveready. I've been using NiMH batteries for decades, best value hands down for nearly everything. I currently use a Powerex MH-C800S smart charger for the NiMhs.

[@DMackDano1130]

I know I watched this video two months late but it was very informative and enjoyed it because I was considering rechargeable mostly for being a little more green. So thanks fr another great video!

[@sevans66]

Yeah...I like videos like this... gives us consumers a reliable source of honest and accurate information

[@mikemcmanus3918]

Been using EBL Lithium batteries with a charger and saved money

[@ben31tube]

Thanks!

[@gsp49]

Thanks Tom! I've been wanting to know more about this!

[@budmartin3344]

Good testing. I wonder what the self discharge rate of the EBL Lithium is since it has some kind of buck converter to convert 3.6V nominal Lithium Voltage down to 1.5V. I also wonder about what kind of protection it has if it is put into the wrong charger.

[@MikinessAnalog]

good question about buck converters & the discharge from constantly being on while the cell is charged.

[@gregghershberger7968]

Great video. Very educational for the average Joe who might not be into solar generators and solar. Keep up the good work.

[@JohnThomas-ou2rn]

This particular video is a personal favorite of mine. Hopefully, they'll figure out the AA lithium battery problems in the near future. Thanks Prof!

[@eatmorenachos]

A very detailed analysis that's still concise and gets to the point. Thank you!

[@scottpowell6710]

Tom, I enjoyed this battery test so keep them coming !

[@eandm8982]

I did appreciate the testing done here.thanks. My experience with the li aa rechargeables(the ones with the micro-usb port... brand pownergy) is each battery has an internal bms for obvious reasons they still have the potential for fire i assume. Anyway my experience is they have a good shelf life(like the 18650s) and the high voltage works much better in things like shavers and anything motor driven. than the mi-nh. you can hear and see the difference. I haven't tried them in led lights. All my bigger lithium batteries have built in temperature controls for no charging below 32'f (something like that temp anyway) and no discharge below 0'f ish. I assume these little things have similar parameters. How the non rechargeable aa li get away with operating below zero is a good question but obviously they are engineered to not have a problem with usage and recharging isn't an option. thanks for the review... btw I found ebl to over rate it's battery capacities and their ni-mh have a pretty subpar shelf life.