NOBLE TEAM vs DELTA SQUAD | Halo vs Star Wars: Who Would Win?

[@misterp9267]

So it simpler words, Delta squad wouldn't win because Noble team is basically a team of tanks that can sprint

[@jagerthefox8162]

And they've got a hyper lethal spartan. Noble 6

[@skelbones4532]

If they got sprint and not jet packs

[@devonminnick5503]

Arctic _ Feline he said that six isn’t in the fight like 10 times bro

[@isaiahmartinez5620]

@@jagerthefox8162 1 of 2 of the only hyper lethal Spartans in existence

[@brianstabile165]

But clones have lasts

[@pinkyogurt6359]

Body builder soldiers vs a team of six captain americas

[@guiltyspark3434]

Remake Klay World The Captain America’s are the Spartans

[@jordanweigand9289]

@@guiltyspark3434 george would be better than captain America since hes a spartan 2

[@maxfelson9467]

@@BringDHouseDown actually it does, for the reaction time that is he can "see faster"is the quote I believe. also about the bone thing I think he atleast got some improved durability, though I think in the end on a 1 on 1 fight Spartan 2 probably have the edge, since caps biggest perk / attribute is his leadership / motivational / rallying point skills

[@awlotus]

max felson I would say that cap is more comparable to a Spartan 3 if that but in a 1v1 vs a spartan 2 hardly too much competition

[@haydnadkins5007]

Just what I was thinking

[@Ebsalom]

"Thankfully, this'll take a little less time than Noble Team, as Delta Squad is all made up of literally the same person." I don't know why, but I found this bloody hilarious.

[@delta4093]

Nt completely true if you count the different voices as different personalities

[@SheevPalpatine.]

Delta40 True. To quote Fives (Rip): "We are not a bunch of unthinking droids, we are men, we must be trusted to make our own desicions"

[@korbyn6105]

That's just sad 😂

[@CARBINEZzZz]

"Unless that decision is to murder and betray our Jedi generals"

[@CARBINEZzZz]

Right, it was, but my point was that at the end of the day, they did in fact turn out the be a bunch of unthinking droids who could not be trusted to make their own decisions lol

[@jaredprovost2002]

I think we all need to remember that John accidentally killed 4 ODSTs as a teenager in a boxing match. That’s how strong Spartans are.

[@Artyomthewalrus]

Oh spartans are superior in every way, but Delta team would still have a chance because of superior strategy and teamwork. Spartans win 9/10, but delta team is awfully tricky and may be able to defeat a vastly superior force.

[@keanujefcoate9235]

@@Artyomthewalrus not true, if you know anything about the SII lore, it's that spartan II's are very well communicated being together since the age of six and having communication capabilities of in human levels, spartans don't need battle plans they can understand and move efficiently and incredibly coordinated without even opening their mouths. People forget that spartan teams pair them with who they work best with on the field.

[@2402Stevo]

@@keanujefcoate9235 Clone Commandos are top tier batches of a person who is able to box and kill Jedi's with his bare hands. I dunno where people think that Clones are only peak human levels. Hell, books point towards Clones having comparable reactions to droids in the star wars universe, and said droids have lightspeed processing abilities. I honestly doubt Noble Six can handle these guys in a squad on squad fight.

[@keanujefcoate9235]

@@2402Stevo then you would be mistaken, spartans may not have the weaponry that they do but when it comes down to an over all Victor Noble team is just too diverse for the Cammandos to handle. Cammandos are good at what they do, I'm not doubting that, but Spartans are at super human level. Their movements are blurs, they have the strength to flip and battle tank like its nothing, reaction time that is able to grant them what we call "spartan time" practically allowing them to dodge and weave bullets which are much faster them blaster fire, the Cammandos would have a hard time hitting them. If the spartans start hand to hand the Cammandos would be fucked. To fair any noble alone probably would do some damage but I doubt would win alone, but as a team they are far superior, let alone if you pit a spartan II against the Cammandos, those unlucky Cammandos to get in that situation would be minced.

[@2402Stevo]

@@keanujefcoate9235 Sorry, but you read what I posted right? Commandos are a batch of top tier genetic template of a man who can beat to death JEDI's who literally augment their speeds to hypersonic blurs with their force powers, so I have no idea where you're getting that spartans would speed blitz them. They also contest with droids who have lightspeed reactions/processing. Also commandos are trained by Jango and mandalorians, who I repeat, beat space wizards, who can rend durasteel and other ultra hard metals with their force augmented bodies and crush tanks with their minds, with his own hands. So how are noble team gonna out-contest that in the cqc? I've read Halo books too, I'm familiar with their lores and feats, but scaled to what clones deal with in their own universe and how bullshit some of the enemies in SW, its not a sweep like how you're portraying.

[@ty54101]

5:43 guy on the left is definitely a future storm trooper.

[@tickleisweeb]

I get it lol

[@miletello1]

Hahaha

[@slavicspider7762]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@commanderchicostick4155]

wyckhouset lmfao

[@GOWvMatchstick]

Sir, I finished the test. Well Pvt Mendez, you've literally hit everything, but the target.

[@Timboslice475]

Republic Commandos win for one reason: Kat’s driving.

[@jakethunderbird8735]

Yeah she'll try taking the Spartans to the Battle grounds and kill everyone by driving straight off a cliff right after they leave base

[@BulletBastion]

Jake Thunderbird in fact she is so bad she’ll drive off a cliff that doesn’t exist

[@BulletBastion]

Jake Thunderbird in fact she is so bad she’ll drive off a cliff that doesn’t exist

[@dr.boring7022]

Kat: *drives them off a cliff and blows them up* Boss: Nice job, Fixer! Fixer: uh..... Sev: Waiting while you hijacked their car was the best battle tactic ever. Fixer: what di..... Scorch: how are you still over here..... Fixer: WHAT ARE YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT? Boss: Sev, stop yelling! We're congratulating Fixer.

[@praxxys9809]

I agree on that one, jesus, she almost threw me off the cliff, luckily they or at least she, won't be driving this time

[@catzRule1963]

If he included noble six that you play as in halo reach you probably would’ve killed every single member of Delta squad by himself

[@jarboni]

true

[@Ironface53]

Probably 10 minuites if they're lucky

[@tristanedward3287]

and if i played as One of Delta squad id of merked all of Noble Team lol Delta squads weapons were far more OP than in Halo.

[@unboundplace4616]

This is actually kinda true, considering the player's N-6 was already a discount masterchief in the lore.

[@tristanedward3287]

@@unboundplace4616 not even bro. The only similarity to chief noble 6 had was their hyper lethal title. Noble six specialized in suicide type missions and mainly just being a killing machine while Chief was way more well rounded and also has luck on his side and Cortana. Not to forget Chief was a spartan 2 while Noble was a lower augmented Spartan 3.

[@nateviall1504]

Jorge's 50 cal machine gun and Jun's sniper would wreck delta squad's armor. If Jun's sniper can take down an elite from 2000 yards in a single shot, it will definitely kill a clone. A hail of 50 cal bullets from Jorge's chaingun would rip delta squad apart. Also if Emile got in close, it would be a massacre.

[@joshuahadams]

Nate Viall Jin’s gun fires rounds that were designed to punch through early WWII tanks by the Soviet Union and are still in use today. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gepárd_anti-materiel_rifle#Users

[@Bowfella]

@@joshuahadams You confused me there for a sec. I think you meam Jun lol.

[@ulfenburg7539]

@@joshuahadams you give a link to a cold war rifle plus that bullet failed massively and ended up only killing cars and trucks. the strength of the bullet was not enough so with it hit the armor with such force it shattered

[@joshuahadams]

ulfenburg 14.5x115mm weapons aren’t still in use today as anti-material rifles, nearly 80 years after their introduction in WWII. India introduced an 14.5x114mm anti-material rifle into service in 2007 “for destroying enemy bunkers, lightly armoured vehicles, radar systems, communication equipment, parked aircraft, fuel storage facilities, etc. It is also effective in long-range sniping, counter sniping and ordnance disposal roles.” en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vidhwansak By 1941 tanks became too heavily armoured for man-portable rifles to consistently penetrate. More lightly armoured vehicles and machinery were fair game. It’s in no way a failure.

[@ulfenburg7539]

@@joshuahadams you talk about the idea of the anti material rifle but before you used the example of the russian ww2 AM rifle WHICH was a failure btw dont use wiki as a source. even by 1940 the russian one was useless at tanks because it could only penetrate them with a certain range and where a Molotov cocktail was more efficient

[@L_videogame]

Listen, as much as I love Star Wars and wish the clones would win, I must say that they don’t stand a chance against Spartans

[@falnelliah2084]

The Null Arcs might, but the commandos never.

[@yadaddy_couldnt]

NZvectris don’t ever try and say commandos can beat any type of Spartans.

[@asiamangape4311]

For Star Wars to beat Spartans they have to pull from the far corners of legends

[@lilkris3008]

Now we have the bad batch who might give spartanIIIs

[@11DaltonB]

Yeah I don’t know why he would pit Spartans against clones. Spartans are probably the most dangerous humans in that setting. It should’ve just been Spartans vs master Jedi

[@orlandoblanco9993]

“Trandoshians do appear to use projectile based weapons” Literally a quote from the game directly “Huh... an energy weapon designed to look like a slug-thrower”

[@joenuts8312]

Because it's REALLY HARD to tell the difference between a laser and a bullet.

[@MythicHuskii]

Orlando Blanco If that’s the case, then sign noble team up for a fist fight.

[@biolj]

He didn't think lizards were that nostalgic

[@LegatusLucius1994]

After the invention of glasses any Improvement to projectile weapons was cut short to almost non-existent even our current assault ballistics are better than anything the Star Wars has ever seen

[@LegatusLucius1994]

And Halo had 500 years to make them Superior than ours

[@thejake1453]

Man, how messy would this get in close combat. Can you imagine what would happen to Scorch if Emil just straight up tackled him? Imagine having a thousand pound linebacker running faster than Usain Bolt slam straight into you.

[@Cha-Khia]

Actually the Spartan 3's didn't run as fast as the Spartan 2's, the average run speed of an S3 was about 18-20mph Husain Bolt could outrun a Spartan 3 over a short distance (because after Husain gets tired a few seconds into the sprint, he'll get bodied by the Spartan) That said, Seeing a half ton metal man running at you with the murderous intent that Emile would have then him getting to you... Now imagine George (Spartan 2's could generally run much faster than the 3's could) if big ol' George came at you at about highway speeds... it'd literally be like getting hit by a car. Sure the Troopers armor could survive the impact (probably not though), but the guy inside sure wouldn't.

[@Bowfella]

This is overkill, a really good matchup would be ODST Alpha-nine vs Delta Squad (just rolls off the tongue)

[@delinkwent7375]

gears of war delta {Marcus, Dom, Baird, and Cole) vs clone commando delta

[@nicksnacks]

Not particularly it just become overkill for the clones at that point you have to remember that ODSTs that while ODST's are superior humans they are just regular humans clone commandos on the other hand are genetically enhanced clones of a peak human (jango Fett)

[@Charistoph]

@@nicksnacks, they weren't enhanced as much as you think. Their modifications were actually far less than the standard trooper. I think the moddable weapons that Delta Team carries would be of more impact than their genetics against ODST.

[@awlotus]

nicholas Mullins ODST’s actually got a lot of augmentations just non that were too dangerous like the spartan 2 and 3s

[@spiritualbeetle3904]

No, the entire clone army vs. Noble *with* Six

[@hamsammich5553]

Noble team doesn’t watch those wrist rockets

[@joshuasamuels4802]

Nope. They (Noble Team) dodge the rockets and empty half a mag into said wrist at the same time :)

[@thesauce1803]

Joshua Samuels not to mention this was the same time as everyone’s favorite ability in reach Armor lock

[@joshuasamuels4802]

Alfredo Campa I forgot about that! Stop AND destroy a charging Wraith with a well timed lockout.

[@megadwarf4714]

Joshua Samuels how fast does that mag empty

[@joshuasamuels4802]

Megadwarf 47 depends on the weapon. If it's the DMR, 6 shots in about 4 seconds(going off memory here). If it's the Assault Rifle, 16 in close to 4 seconds. The rest is debatable. I know the pistol can be emptied relatively quick... But I digress.

[@ottoman_reenactor_ct]

Humans with top physical condition vs Humans with super speed, strength, reaction time an armor that almost costs as much as a huge warship I wpuld go with Spartans anytime (it should have been Spartan 1s for a more fair fight) and I am a star wars fan

[@SUSsykage]

cemo1999 The Mjolnir armour costs as much as one single UNSC Destroyer.

[@ottoman_reenactor_ct]

Sickage [GD] Insert *THANK YOU GIF*

[@symphony_in_152mm2]

you're forgetting the technological differences, my friend The basic clone trooper armor is designed to be resilient against kinetic projectiles. Delta squad commandos aren't basic clone troopers, they also have shields. Basic clone weaponry is an explosive plasma projectile with a low tier EMP-like damage integrated into the rounds due to their role in fighting droid armies. Delta squad has advanced, modular variants of clone trooper weaponry Still, Noble team would give delta squad a run for their money and might even manage to come out on top depending on the situation. from what I know about halo and star wars, this is a very close fight.

[@symphony_in_152mm2]

that seems grossly over exaggerated. You need to do some reading into star wars technology if you seriously believe covenant weapons tech is "superior" to star wars tech. I'm not saying star wars blasters are "ermagerd so much better", but I am saying that you're really underestimating their effectiveness at killing their targets.

[@jameson1239]

Cynical Sergal you forget that Spartans armour is designed to stop energy weapons

[@XanderKaine]

Clone commandos did recive some minor genetic modifications such as making them physically stronger and smarter but these modification were not as extensive as a spartans. however there was one batch of clones that did get an extream genetic modifications and that was the null arc troopers these 8 clones where hyper intelligent and could recall anything from memory this also made them extremely paranoid

[@Djarin_and_Grogu]

I’d love to see the Nulls against noble team.

[@misamdeathblood1817]

Only 6 survived.. not 8.

[@tdkom]

what about the bad batch?

[@sbentsen2714]

My guess is they probably had a short lifespan, that kind of augmentation has to take a toll on the body I'd think.

[@idonthavethemass1227]

Evidence? The only Genetic augmentations IIRC standard clones (including Clone Commandos besides Bad Batch) only have an augmentation that increases their age acceleration.

[@devendoffing7004]

Clone armor doesn’t protect against ballistics, and the Spartans nerves and instincts are enhanced, it’s not even a fair fight, and they have energy shields to deflect plasma rounds, noble would win

[@Bowfella]

@@canoobie0947 Tusken rifles are nothing compared to anti-aircraft ballistics....

[@jet2550]

Is this easy mode?

[@HaloForgeUltra]

@@canoobie0947 UNSC assault rifles can take out aircraft and and even armoured vehicles with enough sustained fire.

[@justinhaskell54]

Lets also remember that at times spartan IIIs could experience psychotic episodes as a result of the augmentation and had to be given medication to counter the side effect a team of spartan 3s is dangerous enough but off their meds?

[@HaloForgeUltra]

@@justinhaskell54 In one of the novels, they were low on meds, so one guy gave his to a teammate, and went ahead. They found a trail of the dead bodies of Brutes slowly after, he was ripping apart Brutes who are usually stronger than Spartans with pure strength.

[@Young_BZ]

Why no Noble 6? Because we know that he's OP.

[@HolyknightVader999]

Noble 6 would curbstomp both Delta Team and Noble Team with his/her hands tied.

[@Andrew_H43]

Young BZ 6 would curbstomp Delta squad alone

[@gangstapanda124]

HolyknightVader999 I'm pretty sure Emile would put him down. He was a master a cqc

[@HolyknightVader999]

+GANGSTA PANDA Then you don't know Noble 6. 6 had the highest Spartan killcount of the war barring Master Chief.

[@theodorekennedy143]

HolyknightVader999 He is “Hyper lethal”, one of two SPARTANs to be designated that. It is implied that MC is the other one

[@orangeslush9915]

This is littetaly having 10 years old against adults

[@likeabaws124578]

Orangeslush 99 these halo kids don’t know wassup

[@meatusbeatus5548]

Edgy Jedi my guy it’s a joke about how the clones are genetically throttled.

[@rulingmoss5599]

+Edgy Jedi Your name checks out.

[@waterfire163beys]

@@punbug4721 When John 117 was in his youth (about 14 ish) he decked a ODST in a training room and killed him instantly.

[@Phoenix-214]

One of the cruelly ironic things about this comment is the fact that the both the second and third generation Spartans started their military careers as literal child soldiers, all deployed in their early to mid-teens on their first combat operations. Most of them would never survive to adulthood. Honestly, I think the Spartans wouldn't mind sitting down and having a drink with the clones sometime instead. They've got a fair bit of common ground and a strong argument could be made that the clones would be perfectly good as Spartans if they were given the same augmentations, save for the problem posed by their accelerated aging. The Kaminoans really are sick bastards. At least Halsey cared about her Spartans, whatever else was wrong with her.

[@pumaman7072]

Name a team of six that could beat Noble Team. Six jackel snipers with needle rifles.

[@ColdNorth0628]

With legendary and iron on?

[@luigimrlgaming9484]

And focus Rifles

[@Cembrovic]

Beamrifle and halo 2 legendary

[@Kevin-ek4fi]

*insert kats death here*

[@iqbalhanafijanuarta5651]

What about osiris?

[@haydnadkins5007]

I think clone commandos would better compare to ODSTs instead of Spartans

[@TheAlhouk57]

Nah. Spartan 1's

[@prof.gunslinger2872]

TheAlhouk57 No. most of the participants of Project Orion (Spartan 1’s) either died or suffered severe brain trauma. The only one who survived with no issues is Johnson.

[@halinaqi2194]

@@prof.gunslinger2872 in the end he got electrocuted by a light bulb, rip.

[@prof.gunslinger2872]

Hossain Ali yeah. Rip

[@maddogs1989]

@@prof.gunslinger2872 so ... they all died

[@patricktakada9551]

Republic Commandos seem more like ODST's than Spartans....

[@joshuasamuels4802]

Patrick Takada Good comparison... Both get hotdropped into the battle in specialized pods for one mission then get covertly inserted into the next. Main difference (beside the weapos) is that the commandos have Bacta processing implants while ODSTs have biofoam. Not sure why that's important, just wanted to mention it.

[@akarbit3r111]

Commandos also have minor shielding

[@preddes6522]

@Collin Caperton Spartan 4s are equal to Spartan 2s tho......

[@ahijahjoseph2142]

But arc troopers are like ODST to me in terms of special forces.

[@julianspi]

Pred Des No. Spartan 4’s were even cheaper than spartan 2’s.

[@robertnelson9599]

Imperial Guards(Star Wars) vs Elite Honor Guards(Halo)

[@Roado_]

Robert Nelson I know little about the Imperial Guards but I know it'd be a worthy matchup

[@robertnelson9599]

The Imperial were Palpatine's most loyal servants, as well as some of the best trained soldiers at the time. The real threat were the Shadow Guard and Imperial Sovereign Protector subdivisions, as they had rudimentary force abilities and were even more skilled than the regular guards.

[@Raphoovvv]

Robert Nelson Elites would be less skilled in techniques but they'd just rush the guards down and overpower them, let's not forget elites are at least 2.5 meters tall and almost purely muscle.

[@robertnelson9599]

The Honor Guards were the best of the best the Elites had to offer, that's why they were the ones to guard the High Prophets. They do have the physical advantage but the subdivisions I mentioned have low-level force capabilities, which can help even the playing field.

[@generalofchaos5174]

It would be very difficult for the Elites considering if the emperor's guard has let's say two Shadow Guards, then they'd have to deal with abilities like force lightening and force choke. Muscle and size won't help that much if you're floating in the air or burnt to a crisp. Then again, the Elites are still quite skilled and could be able to find a way to defeat the Shadow guards.

[@sockmonkey3393]

Hell i think two zealot class elites could probably take out delta squad.

[@ColdNorth0628]

Depends, commandos are pretty much 1 tier below spartans imo. And to eb fair that tier has a lot of requirements.

[@Bowfella]

@@ColdNorth0628 More than one tier buddy. Spartans have 15x the strength of a clone, MUCH faster reaction time, and their armour even without the regenerating energy shields is tougher than clone armour. Commandos would beat ODSTs imo.

[@timothyripley4175]

@@Bowfella odsts are 1tier lower than Spartans. It's marines, odsts, Spartans

[@HaloForgeUltra]

@@timothyripley4175 No it's Spartan 2s, Spartan 3s, Spartan 4s, then Orion(spartan 1) and then ODSTs, marines.

[@timothyripley4175]

@@HaloForgeUltra I'm generalizing the Spartans (ik they're different but they're still the same division).

[@spartanprime5114]

Noble 6 vs delta team: Deta teams hedsup display objective: SURVIVE.

[@uvbeenhadgaming3288]

He's not including Noble Six cuz Noble Six could easily take down half of Delta team by himself

[@RC--ji2ov]

uvbeenhad gaming no he isnt including him because that would make the battle even more unfair than it already is

[@uvbeenhadgaming3288]

RC -1138 I know I know I thought it would be funny

[@RC-1207_]

RC -1138 hey boss

[@RC--ji2ov]

RC - 1207 hey sev, how bout you regroup with the rest of the squad already!

[@delta4093]

Cut the chatter, deltas!

[@AceVendetta]

one thing I'd point out when it comes to clone training: while it happens from birth, overall time of training would be comparable or even less than that of a Spartan due to accelerated aging

[@bobbombar6711]

AceVendetta no you are wrong they were decanted a decade befoe genosis and immediately started live fire training

[@joenuts8312]

@@bobbombar6711 The SPARTAN'IIs were kidnapped at the age of 6, and the ones who didn't wash out or die are adults. That puts at least 14 years for SPARTANs to train.

[@bobbombar6711]

No spartans had max 12 yrs no live fire training till the last 3 or so clones stared life with live fire leathal combat training

[@joenuts8312]

@@bobbombar6711 If I remember correctly, Clone lives started in a vat. Boss was an example of this. Did you mean started life as in started training?

[@bobbombar6711]

No I mean when the came out of the spartii cylinders ie decanted although I think in the old eu they had some flash training while they gestated

[@Rainfall.76]

"Sniper rifles, miniguns, shotguns" My brain SPARTAN LASER

[@keithstone8693]

I can't see any scenario where Delta could scrape on by with a straight slug. All that "brotherly love" and cohesion gonna lead to Delta's brotherly brains getting splattered on the durasteel tile. Noble would cream Delta, back to back.

[@jcohasset23]

Noble team would certain win but I don't think it would be without losses.

[@Daveo3]

@@jcohasset23 I sorta agree on that, hands down there would be no deaths on noble, but considering Delta's skill set, someone will probably get injured on noble... probably Jorge, he can't move very fast with that big ass gun

[@l1viid]

J Cohasset jun would probably take down 2 out of the 4 before the team was even ready and taking George laying down thousands of rounds a minute with Emil’s shoutgun they would be decimated within seconds with no injuries or casualties

[@super_pancakerifle2688]

@@Daveo3 Imagine if in the middle of the fight, Jorge just drops his minigun and just decides to dempsey rolls all of Delta squad, that's a grown *spartan II* moving faster than the IIIs and throwing punches faster and harder than anything Noble 6 can throw..

[@Noah-zz8uw]

@Ivan HERNANDEZ I agree with a lot of what you say. Not only do they have vibroblades, but shock gauntlets and repulser blasters are not uncommon for Clone Commandos to have. In terms of training, both are trained from birth, or from close to birth, but Clone Commandos should technically have an advantage there as well, considering Clone Commando training is based on Mandalorian training, which is some of the most well-adapted training/tactics from the Star Wars Universe, from years/decades/centuries of battle against different opponents from across the SW Galaxy. It seems that the UNSC Spartans only have training derived from Earth and the other colonies it has, and it also seems that the UNSC hadn't come across different opponents (other than humans in the form of Rebels) until they faced the Covenant/Flood. The Republic also used flash training, which basically gave soldiers the training/instincts they needed, though I don't know how this was/wasn't incorporated in the training of Clone Commandos. Moreover, Clone Commandos seem to have a teamwork advantage (in my opinion), as the teamwork between Noble Team isn't bad in the slightest, but Clone Commandos are often stated to have far better teamwork than that of the Bad Batch, and along with potentially better training I could see that working in their favor. Blasters in general seem able to outmatch a lot of UNSC weapons: First, there are regular blaster pistols, which can be capable of creating powerful explosions: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4rKpnR4gZKehq8, kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHKbfGqPqNStgbM, kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZCtnGucn5iie7c, kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6KZln6pr6Z2oas, and kzbin.info/www/bejne/eanKgoZjbKqWedE are all good examples of what blaster pistols alone can be capable of. Then there are regular Clonetrooper blasters, which in lore are very high quality compared to most of the pistols shown before. Take the standard DC-15A, and DC-15S for example, being able to blow Droidekas in half: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJfKoa2bht5ohNk, being able to destroy tons of rock in seconds: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXzUfmdvaNOLftk, and destroying several supports in a single shot: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2i1ZIisfp17i80. Said blasters can take several shots to destroy B2 Super Battledroids: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKXKgZl6fN1jgNE. Then there are specialized Clone blasters, like the DC-17m, which is capable of destroying 3 B2s in a single hit each: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJjXhJhvg72ei8k. It's a lot of extrapolation, and I don't completely disagree with the verdict, but there is a lot more to consider than may meet the eye initially. Obviously, there is also the factor of the interchangeability of the DC-17m, with both other modes seemingly having stronger single shot capabilities than the standard configuration. In terms of explosives, I believe Clones have an advantage, considering the widespread use of the thermal detonator, and the power: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6TapnptZtSIjMk, and kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2WTiY2upruHi9k . They also apparently use sonic explosives, though I don't know the power of such a weapon.

[@RETROID4500X]

Commandos vs ODST would be an interesting fight

[@alejandroelluxray5298]

RIP ODSTs

[@yadaddy_couldnt]

Let’s see, depends on how many you allow, ODST are made to over run people, they are still very bad ass.

[@humanish1]

I am late for the party, and probably someone told it before. But i think would be more balanced against ODST's.

[@Noah-zz8uw]

I disagree. ODST are already at a disadvantage against regular Clonetroopers. ODST do not train their whole lives for war, unlike Clonetroopers. They also lack severely in weapons, as blasters are capable of some serious damage, being able to destroy tons of rock in a few shots: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXzUfmdvaNOLftk, being able to blast Droidekas in half with a single shot: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJfKoa2bht5ohNk, destroy barriers in a single shot: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2i1ZIisfp17i80, and maim/damage droids without even hitting them: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6eWYYicmKuSqpY . Clone Commandos are all of that in droves, plus they are capable of destroying Super Battledroids in a single shot: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJjXhJhvg72ei8k . Not to mention carrying vibro blades, shock gauntlets, and repulser blasters, giving them a heavy advantage even in melee. ODST would be royally screwed against Commandos, or ARCs in an evenly numbered battle.

[@BillGates-bg1wz]

@@Noah-zz8uw i disagree odsts are shown to take on sheilded brutes which without sheilds would match spartans in strength and speed now add the additional sheilded armor and cheiftans and yeah no also the unsc has snipers that can pierce straight through even spartans.

[@Zero-zb5ij]

You see: Star Wars lacks in OP Infantry Whereas Halo lacks in OP Starships

[@gravebructer4881]

*cough* super carrier *cough* unsc infinity *cough* every "modern" forerunner ship ever

[@JsphCrrll]

@@gravebructer4881 LMAO

[@JsphCrrll]

@@gravebructer4881 I think he ment during the covenant war.

[@harryforrest6347]

@@gravebructer4881 An executor super star destroyer took 3 hyperspace rams with its particle shields. That little MAC gun won't do jack shit

[@angelguerrero898]

Stephen Forrest yeah thats kinda bullshit. You are telling me that ship generates enough power for a shield to take what is essentially a mac round at light speed 3 times? Lol thats dumb.

[@derpytw]

Imagine seeing two hulking bodies of metal running at you at 34 miles an hour and then as they run past you. Punching you right in the face. The light armour would be a hinderance. As all the momentum from the several ton smashes them against a wall

[@derkaylon1740]

As much as i love delta team and the republic commando game, I can't imagine delta winning against noble team.

[@ugiustuskeiserus8066]

Der Kaylon Considering how you called them Delta *Team* instead of *Squad* I'm gonna say you're not as big a fan as most. Boss himself could take down 2 or 3 of the Spartans by himself.

[@thatdidact7893]

Ügiustus Keiserus That’s where you’re wrong, kiddo.

[@SUSsykage]

Ügiustus Keiserus Nope.

[@SonOfDaProphets]

You’re my clone lol

[@SonOfDaProphets]

Ügiustus Keiserus lol a single spartan could do that. If noble six was in he would solo all of delta, be great full he’s not!

[@danielhaire6677]

Actually the only clones who were one on one trained by Jango Fett were the ARCs. The Clone Commandos were actually trained by handpicked mercenaries, mostly Mandalorian, that Jango hired to be their trainers. These were the 'Cuyval Dar' - those who no longer exist. Delta was trained by Walon Vau, a very gruff, occasionally bordering on abusive trainer who pushed his trainees to the limits to ensure that his squads would survive. Anyways, other than that, this was a brilliant video. And I agree that the only guaranteed advantage that the Spartans have would be their augments and the Mjolnir armor. The really telling part would be that Mjolnir armor was not only protective but enhancive for the Spartans. That is it boosted the Spartans already impressive augmented capability. Source for the notes on Mjolnirs capability would be "The Fall of Reach" novel by Eric Nylund.

[@dariusdurandal7501]

Daniel Haire excellent job on the info for the commando. You must have read the republic commando books

[@danielhaire6677]

When it comes to sci-fi, I have actually read every Star Wars, Halo, Babylon 5 AND Star Trek novel written over the last 35 years!!

[@Macro105]

Republic Commandos were trained Mandolorians though, perhaps not Fett by plenty of detail about omega and delta trainers being Mandolorian

[@megadwarf4714]

Daniel Haire one thing to take into account is that the kaminoans made numerous genetic enhancements as well, so they were augmented as well, albeit not as much. One match up I'd like to see is the null arcs against a halo sqaud, as they were heavily augmented and very dangerous

[@preddes6522]

@@megadwarf4714 they were augmented to be better than the average clone yes but not to the degree of Spartan 2s. Plus their armour doesn't scale Thier abilities by a factor of FIVE like mjolnir does.

[@HawkTheRed]

as soon as close quarters are involved, Delta would just be fucked, a Spartan would almost literally break a clone in half even if the clone is wearing armor

[@coltinyancey3671]

TheRed Hawk plus one of the spartans is a ccc specialist and his only goal will be to get up close and personal.

[@admiralshadowofasunderedst3068]

Coltin Yancey you mean cqc

[@phantomishereidk]

Don't forget emile

[@lazydonkey3617]

Delta squad can’t sprint so it’s pretty obvious who would win

[@TheKingDango]

I love both games very much but I don't even think it's a close matchup. I wouldn't be surprised if 1 Noble Team member could take on all of Delta Squad alone.

[@kyle17252]

That' a bit much i think. Who were you thinking could do that? Emile?

[@TheKingDango]

I think Noble 6 (I know he isn't included in this video) could possibly do it alone. I'm not certain any of the members could for sure I was just making a point that Delta Squad is ridiculously outclassed and it wouldn't even be a close fight.

[@Raphoovvv]

Qrow Branwen Nobody but noble six could probably do it alone as the others are too specialized in their roles which is the main reason why they work so well together. But about Emile..... If he would get the jump on delta squad and just stay in CQC it'd be an absolute massacre.

[@thyreradim7885]

Jun would snipe them all XD, Kat would run up and crush them with bionics/ 50 cal magnum handgun, George would just kill them all with his chaingun, no your absolutely right XD any single member of noble could kill all of delta (only reason george isn't killed outright because he only has a chaingun is because he is a spartan 2.)

[@egalitarianism9203]

@@thyreradim7885 hope you're joking. When you want to make a valid argument, don't sound like a biased halo fanboy. 1, Sev is a more skilled sniper and operator than Jun. Jun's ammunition consists of bullets, which would not be enough to kill someone in katarn armor, same with Jorge's. Kat cant just walk up and crush them. You make this argument as if they would just stand still and let them kill them. Considering Delta's tactical prowess, intelligence and coordination, it's a very fair fight.

[@RC--ji2ov]

Delta Squad forming up!

[@Nitroprime]

Kat you getting any readings?

[@ShooterQ]

"Forming up, boss."

[@porter-2034]

Got you covered 3-8

[@jet2550]

*noble six snipes them with a dmr

[@fluiypj]

YOU MADE MY VIDEO, LOVE YOU ECK

[@alejandromendez1305]

Honestly, I think that delta squad was more on par with say, an elite squad of ODST. They would have similar armor, however as the lines were bread from birth to fight, they would definitely take the cake unless it were an extremely elite ODST squad.

[@cjthenarhwalking1378]

I think a fair fight would be against alpha-nine

[@puffinmaster8]

I really liked this match up, I agree with your assessment of the two sides, and even though I'm a huge halo fan and would say it's closer to 9.5/10, it was still really entertaining. I would love to see a version of a squad match up where their vehicles were involved. It might make the match up more fair in the Clones favorer. Giving them a dropship and the Spartans a pelican and what not. Or a repusor lift tank and a scorpion. Food for thought. I love your videos! I think your the best. And I would love to see more of your awesomeness!

[@jmmproductions6741]

Puffin_King Its more 9/10, but the thing I don't like about this scenario is that the Commandos are provided with the first version of Katarn Class when they wore the newest version on Kashyyyk. Probably because that's a little OP I guess, as nothing short of sustained heavy repeater shots will pierce it, but it honestly makes the match up more fair. Probably would bring the chances down for Noble to 8/10 with the MKIII Katarn.

[@thealmightyblob3029]

this match up was really unfair, in every way (except arguably weapons) noble team out classes delta squad, in fact based off what we know of noble 6 I believe he could kill the entire delta squad by himself

[@MrEcoho]

just one thing Spartans are pretty smart, if the bullets didnt do any thing noticeable they would just close the distance and beat the clones to death (emile would be the first to jump on them) at that point the clone armor is useless as the spartans can just kill them at will, due to them being faster and stronger.

[@Mikalent]

I recall seeing some Halo Lore somewhere that the Covonent states that anything not an Elite is to engage Spartians only when Anti-armor weapons are availible, and I feel that sums up the match up very well, clone commandos can be attacked by light anti-personnel weaponry, where you need at minimium Anti-armor weapons to even think about engaging a Spartian.

[@jmmproductions6741]

Bill Gultch The armor they wore on Geonosis, yes, but about a year after, they got a much needed upgrade. The armor Delta wore latest in the War was so tough only sustained repeating blaster fire would penetrate it. A Commando threw himself directly over a grenade with this armor and only had bruises and a few scrapes on the armor. Latest armor Delta had available does make a difference in this battle and brings their chances of winning up to 2/10. Noble team is tough and all, but the 2 ways they are taking down a Commando is if Jun snipes with his AP rounds on his SRS, concentrated AP fire, or hand to hand combat. Delta could win if they ambush. While they don't have the physical match against Noble, Delta is honestly better trained. So I just think that it was unfair to not give Delta their latest version of the armor when Noble team had access to the latest armor of their time. While Noble would win a vast majority of the time, the MKIII Katarn Class Commando Armor does raise their already slim chances.

[@BronyTimeProductions]

Before battle prediction: Noble Team will win. I'm a fan of Delta Squad but Spartans are quite strong. After battle: Yep.

[@UnknownGamer-gd6kh]

As a huge Star Wars fan I agree

[@Spartan086]

Noble Team would beat them 9 out of 10 times without Noble Six With Noble Six make that 10 out of 10 times

[@alexlafferty7728]

epic 6ig B if they had 6 it would be 1000 times out of ten

[@Noah-zz8uw]

@@UnknownGamer-gd6kh I don't think it would be so easy though. Here's what I think: I don't necessarily disagree with the verdict of this video, but Clone Commandos seem to have far stronger standard weaponry. First, there are regular blaster pistols, which can be capable of creating powerful explosions: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4rKpnR4gZKehq8, kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHKbfGqPqNStgbM, kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZCtnGucn5iie7c, kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6KZln6pr6Z2oas, and kzbin.info/www/bejne/eanKgoZjbKqWedE are all good examples of what blaster pistols alone can be capable of. Then there are regular Clonetrooper blasters, which in lore are very high quality compared to most of the pistols shown before. Take the standard DC-15A, and DC-15S for example, being able to blow Droidekas in half: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJfKoa2bht5ohNk, being able to destroy tons of rock in seconds: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXzUfmdvaNOLftk, and destroying several supports in a single shot: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2i1ZIisfp17i80. Said blasters can take several shots to destroy B2 Super Battledroids: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKXKgZl6fN1jgNE. Then there are specialized Clone blasters, like the DC-17m, which is capable of destroying 3 B2s in a single hit each: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJjXhJhvg72ei8k. It's a lot of extrapolation, and I don't completely disagree with the verdict, but there is a lot more to consider than may meet the eye initially. Obviously, there is also the factor of the interchangeability of the DC-17m, with both other modes seemingly having stronger single shot capabilities than the standard configuration. In terms of training, both are trained from birth, or from close to birth, but Clone Commandos should technically have an advantage there as well, considering Clone Commando training is based on Mandalorian training, which is some of the most well-adapted training/tactics from the Star Wars Universe, from years/decades/centuries of battle against different opponents from across the SW Galaxy. It seems that the UNSC Spartans only have training derived from Earth and the other colonies it has, and it also seems that the UNSC hadn't come across different opponents (other than humans in the form of Rebels) until they faced the Covenant/Flood. The Republic also used flash training, which basically gave soldiers the training/instincts they needed, though I don't know how this was/wasn't incorporated in the training of Clone Commandos. Moreover, Clone Commandos seem to have a teamwork advantage (in my opinion), as the teamwork between Noble Team isn't bad in the slightest, but Clone Commandos are often stated to have far better teamwork than that of the Bad Batch, and along with potentially better training I could see that working in their favor. I don't know who takes it in terms of durability. Spartans seem to have a massive speed/reflex advantage, and take it in terms of numbers for this battle. For melee fights, Spartans should win by and large, however Clone Commandos have some tricks up their sleeve (almost literally) in the form of retractable vibroblades, shock guantlets, and repulser blasts. In terms of explosives, I believe Clones have an advantage, considering the widespread use of the thermal detonator, and the power: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6TapnptZtSIjMk, and kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2WTiY2upruHi9k . They also apparently use sonic explosives, though I don't know the power of such a weapon. In terms of enemies faced, once again, I believe that the CIS was no joke when it came to military assets despite what a lot of people may say. Overwhelming numbers of B1s and B2s, who overwhelm most planetary defense forces alone can suppress enemies, and destroy cover quite well. Amassed fire from B1s alone is not something for soldiers to trifle with: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3vEgp-pbrqjhbM . Not to mention Droidekas, who can tank dozens of blaster shots with their shields activated: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmjCf6qPr8utiJo. Obviously Commando Droids, who can take on Jedi with ARC Troopers (albeit with a magnetic trap involved): kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqnKnp-qfth3j7s , and who are deadly even without a magnetic trap: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKK5coGloc5kaJI and kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqmppoV3acyhnKs, as well as incredibly agile: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKK5coGloc5kaJI. Another common, yet formidable enemy can be seen in the DSD1 Dwarf Spider Droid, which has the firepower to destroy Republic LAATs. Then there are A-DSDs, or advanced Dwarf Spider Droids, which pack the same heavy blaster cannon, but also bring more armor, and two missile launchers. This Droid often took out entire squads of Clones, and was one of the many that the Clone Commandos faced. I think that this battle comes down to range, and whether or not the Clones can target the Spartans before distance is closed. Spartans have been shown to dodge quite well, and their durability in lore is far stronger than it is in game, but Clone Commando weaponry should be more than capable of punching through the shields and armor of Spartans from what I see. I cannot necessarily say it will be as easy for the Spartans to do the same with standard weaponry that seems far weaker than that of the Clone Commandos. Spartans have also been hit by plasma weaponry, so it's not impossible for a Clone Commando to do the same as these Elites did: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWSQmIeoeLd_h80, especially if the Spartans are getting closer, and having less time to dodge.

[@drearyplane8259]

Blaster rifles will be very effective against shields, but the Halo weapons are so powerful in terms of calibre it probably doesn't matter

[@Edgar-dp5qu]

DrearyPlane8 they’re perfectly realistic caliber. They still use 7.62 NATO in 2552.

[@Bowfella]

@@Edgar-dp5qu Lol that's what always kinda bothered me. Yes 7.62 NATO is a very versitile round but I don't see why we would be using essentially the same firearm tech we have today 500 years from now. We surely would've at least mastered some form of rail-gun technology which would allow us to shoot at probably inhuman speeds.

[@Edgar-dp5qu]

mihajlo525 well that gets into the problem of miniaturization and cost.

[@paxtonfairbanks9216]

Halo weapons are pretty weak in comparison to other universes, however the super soliders, armor, equipment and shielding are nothing to laugh at. A lone spartan 3 with an AI unit could take out delta squad with little trouble due to AI assistance along with insane strength, speed and armor. All they have to do is pick off the clones one by one and they have to sleep sometime.

[@maycontainnuts3127]

You're just pitting my childhood against my childhood.

[@eastlemon9477]

In a regular battle 10/10 times Noble Team would win. Spartans could get unlucky and have one taken down but that's about it.

[@kizeranimations5943]

You are underestimating the sheer teamwork and skill of the clone commandos, who are used to fighting enemies both more numerous and more powerful than them.

[@Cha-Khia]

@@kizeranimations5943 Not really more powerful no, at least not technologically speaking. (the Droids and Separatists of course) The Spartans (and by extension the UNCS as a whole) deal with the exact same thing, the Covenant are more numerous by far and technologically superior in most areas. While I wouldn't say Nobel wins 10/10 times, they'd take 8 or 9 out of 10 being that given the right gear and element of surprise, Delta could take the Spartans down, it's just not very likely.

[@kizeranimations5943]

@@Cha-Khia Now that I know more about the spartans I have to grudgingly agree that they would win at least 7 out of 10 matches

[@troyroberts9489]

Look just imagine seeing 1000 pounds of armor zipping across the room as you shoot at it and its fighting back

[@xxz7447]

I mean noble 6 would beat the whole Delta team. I mean he(/ I) killed 22 Elites on the last mission (legendary) ;p PS: What is your record on the last mission?

[@dariusdurandal7501]

An Vu 17 elites 3 wraiths and lost count on grunts

[@turboshocker0836]

An Vu if ya think about Noble killed infinite elites it only stops when you do

[@egalitarianism9203]

You forget Boss is a clone of someone who could beat Six in legends

[@joenuts8312]

@@egalitarianism9203 You forget that even though clones are well, clones of Jango Fett, none of them were near his skill level.

[@egalitarianism9203]

I assume you don't know much of Star Wars Lore. The Null ARCs were direct clones of Jango, but way higher than his skill level. Clone Commandos were flash trained, many died during it.

[@polarcobb6065]

Hello sir. Im going through the videos in your channel, and i love all of them. The information you give, supported by that memorable music really made me fall in love. I appreciate the work that you do, and i hope you continue your quest of being the best there ever was

[@nobleghost1177]

I feel like clone commandos would have a more even matchup against Spartan IVs. The IIs and IIIs are much more powerful than any non-modified human, and no amount of training is going to make up for that.

[@thatdidact7893]

NobleGhost117 Sorry, but I don’t think that will even the odds much. Spartan IVs receive less extensive physical augmentations than previous Spartan generations, but that is well-compensated for with the ridiculous technological advances packed into MJOLNIR GEN2 armor. An armored Spartan IV can go toe to toe against an armored Spartan II and expect an even chance at winning. Fireteam Osiris would dismantle Delta Squad almost as easily as Noble Team, and Osiris has one less Spartan.

[@SUSsykage]

ThatDidact 117 should have wiped the floor with Locke because the Spartan Time and everything to do with S-IIs and S-IIIs applies there. Take Jerome-092 (albeit much younger). In the cutscene Action/Reaction (Halo Wars 2) he takes on multiple Brutes and Elites at the same time bearing in mind that these Brutes are basically Spartans themselves (Atriox’s “upgrades”), and yet he manages to beat them in the most badass way possible. John-117 should have done this even though he was 50 because it’s said (got it from some “sources”) that they don’t slow down until they’re like 60 or something like that. Even with the technological advancements, 117 still would have beaten all four a Osiris at the same time because of S-IIs insane reaction time and general skill in the field. I can cut it down to just poor writing.

[@kyle17252]

What about odsts? say... bucks squad?

[@nobleghost1177]

Qrow Branwen ODSTs don't quite have the training and gear to stand up to commandos. Maybe normal clones (maybe), but not commandos

[@SonOfDaProphets]

Sickage [GD] spartan 4’s also have enhanced reaction time.

[@UncleMikeDrop]

Despite my SIGNIFICANT star wars bias, I am inclined to agree.

[@sokandueler9578]

Considering game mechanics as real-world capabilities, we can use elites as a standard. I’d say that an elite is basically of the same caliber as Super Battledroids, if not a little better. An SBD is incredibly hard to defeat and is treated in-game as a sort of area boss. Noble team in game, however, does very well again large amounts of elites. No matter how elite the commandos are, they can’t take the Spartans down.

[@theextracrispycolonel8801]

Clone armor doesn’t work that well against bullets

[@sahajthind7234]

LOL

[@TheRealBitterbub]

@@100percentNotaBot Slug launchers are different from the majority of ballistic weapons. Clone/Stormtrooper armor is COMPLETELY ballistic proof. So, yes, Clone armor stands up more than fine to bullets and virtually all bullet-based weaponry the UNSC can provide.

[@jonathancole3149]

@@TheRealBitterbub Hahaha, Slug launchers are like the first gun, but much easier to use. A crossbow outdoes it.

[@TheRealBitterbub]

@@jonathancole3149 Since I don't recall, mind refreshing me on what the first weapon was? And, even if the comparison is relative, the Bowcaster was still a blaster rifle first and foremost, therefore entirely capable of punching through ST armor.

[@jonathancole3149]

@@TheRealBitterbub Defense is made to counter a specific type of weapon. If the most powerful ballistic you will have to fight is a slug thrower, then your armor wouldn't be designed to block much more against ballistic weapons. Now Star Wars doesn't have to deal with balistics like Halo weapons, so if Halo engaged, they would be completely unprepared. Their armor isn't made to counter Halo guns. Plus the Bowcaster has a ballistic round coated in energy.

[@snideradvancedgameplays7317]

Star Wars armor isn’t made to protect from conventional weapons

[@Raving_Rando]

It is in Legends. In Canon, no.

[@yourewrong9028]

in canon it is too: starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Slug "The armor worn by Imperial stormtroopers was impervious to slugs."

[@pell9538]

does it really matter tho because it said "storm trooper" not CLONE TROOPER

[@GawsHawg]

You're Wrong impervious to slugs, but apperantly not impervious to getting a rock lobbed at them by ewoks, or getting kicked by Ezra

[@egalitarianism9203]

Apparently Republic Commandos use Imperial stormtrooper armor. Lol?

[@samdale3937]

Delta squad fans where you at

[@darthrevan704]

Sam dale here

[@amf1435]

VODE AN! Aye aye, sir! Reporting for duty!

[@EmbersDawn117]

Eyooo

[@metalbag8874]

Oh Seven reporting for duty

[@samdale3937]

What’s rule number one?

[@PAINBODEE]

Without a doubt in my mind,Noble Team.

[@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy]

Lord Of Frog's Congolese Uncle TFs up with your profile? LMAO

[@HomemadeFlick]

This isn’t even a competition lmao

[@Spartan086]

Aguafina not really no, even without Noble Six

[@eyesack6845]

@@Spartan086 the way you worded that makes me think you didn't watch the video and you just assumed eck would say that the clones would win. (Spoiler) spartans wipe the floor with delta.

[@Cha-Khia]

@@eyesack6845 A squad of peak human soldiers vs a squad of post human super soldiers... yeah that's a pretty lopsided battle regardless of technological differences. Unless you REALLY highball star wars.

[@caleblenhardt9837]

Was going to go hang with some friends. Then I saw this video and said screw that who needs a life when you've got eckharts videos to watch

[@Roado_]

Caleb Lenhardt I'm with ya

[@timbartschwolfman]

Caleb Lenhardt Eckhart's Ladder got some good Videos...... nice picture of Lego Boba Fett

[@cjthenarhwalking1378]

I like how he said mjolnir would break the bones of non spartans, when he really meant rip the limb to shreds

[@Cha-Khia]

Not exactly "rip to shreds", it's just that the sudden rapid movements would dislocate your joints, causing you to convulse in pain exacerbating the problem, you'd go into shock and die from internal bleeding, but you'd still be intact... sort of.

[@cjthenarhwalking1378]

@@Cha-Khia if your arm moved faster than you could see without controlling I'd say it is definitely in pieces

[@vegeta002]

Ripped to shreds actually sounds pretty accurate, to be honest. Doctor Halsey described what happened when a muggle tested the armour in The Fall of Reach animated movie. The first injury caused a domino effect that eventually destroyed their entire body. Doctor Halsey: "The amplified movements broke their bones, tore their muscles. Their own agony-induced spasms killed them".

[@jordanhendrix2619]

Alright, this is gonna be interesting!

[@timbartschwolfman]

Jordan Hendrix Eckhart's Ladder has great Videos 👍

[@devonminnick5503]

Going back to what you said if they fought with no armor or weapons aka in your words “naked” I think Jorge maybe could kill all 4 because he is a spartan 2 and normally the mjolnir dosent slow down the spartan but I think Jorge’s does because it is so modified and this depicts him as being kind of slow and without it I think he would absolutely wreck them in a “naked fight”

[@Jay-629]

Late again :( I was in the car for 11 hours today WAIT WHAT ECK HEARTED ME THANK YOU

[@pulsespear9914]

Just a heads up, you sometimes say "increase" when talking about improved reaction times. Not a really a big deal but it might confuse people who aren't familiar with the topic at hand.

[@ricardogallardo5157]

Pulse Spear reaction time is everything honestly if you react to something before it hits you it can literally save your life that’s why everyone is throwing it around because Spartans had such a fast reaction time it was rumored they could tell you what side a coin would land when flipped before it even hit your hand

[@TimothyRE99]

Ricardo Gallardo I believe he understands that, and is simply saying that, by saying "increased reaction time" to mean "improved reaction time" is actually misleading, as increasing reaction time would make you react slower.

[@jeffkraft8037]

Yeah, Noble would definitely curbstomp Delta.

[@misterp9267]

The trandosion shotgun is actually not a projectile, but is an energy weapon, as observed by the player in a price of dialog where you say."an energy weapon designed like a slug thrower, very interesting"

[@kenkastlekausmo701]

After your explanation, you pretty much ask the question of batman vs superman: batman has good gadgets, but sups is quicker has enough reaction time, and much stronger in physicality.

[@shahmirm7226]

Except this time noble team doesn't have a kryptonite that can be easily exploited by Delta squad

[@dariusdurandal7501]

Nor do delta have detailed info and time to formulate a plan to use against them

[@josephthompson1359]

Their armour and physical attributes are far superior to the clones in my opinion.

[@wintersnoob]

Spartans win of course, the Commandos are just special forces. They are not enhanced humans. Also, clones are months old which means very little field experience. Most Spartans are hardened veterans.

[@dariusdurandal7501]

wintersnoob actually the clones are ten years old.... or are you talking about the sparty insta-job clones? Those guys are months old lol

[@egalitarianism9203]

"They are not enhanced humans". Lol?

[@joenuts8312]

@@egalitarianism9203 The clones are given soldier-esque training. The Spartans are put through a hell-and-back training that can literally kill them (we're talking live ammunition usage by drill instructors) and a genetic boost that can kill or cripple those it's used on.

[@guillemmoreno5522]

@Kekistani Militiaman do you know what a clone trooper is?

[@IC3T3CH]

Guillem Moreno, does not change the facts. What he says is true.

[@joesf4601]

....lemme guess, noble team? At least you took noble 6 out of it, he would stomp them, as much as I hate to admit it, I loved commandos

[@coltinyancey3671]

Unless delta squad has a significant number advantage they are screwed

[@joshuasamuels4802]

Coltin Yancey A quote from First Strike Spartan Kelly to Fred. (Paraphrased cuz it's been a long time since I read the book) "We can handle 100 to 1 as we are. 200 to 1 with support. 300 to 1 with a little planning.c

[@lightfootjpauls]

Elites also have personal shields. The Spartans have a little bit of a hard time with them but still take them down easily.

[@lightfootjpauls]

Chosen Hunter yeah that kinda happens when you get hit by a .50cal armored piercing discarding sabot. Fun fact, that is a half inch version of the round used in modern main battle tank for a kinetic energy kill round.

[@spencersanderford7518]

I always thought the sniper rifles in halo looked a bit beefier then a normal .50 cal sniper, turns out they actually fire 14.5 mm rounds, (.50 cals are 12.7mm) so Halo snipers are even bigger

[@IAlightenI]

God I fucking love Halo

[@rulingmoss5599]

you and me both

[@chrissonofpear3657]

Lots to like.

[@gt32you]

no question, spartans would decimate them.

[@solitudeguard3196]

Noble 6 or The rookie as a spartan would decimate them alone

[@Spartan086]

As much as I like Delta Squad, Noble Team would wipe the floor with them even without Noble Six

[@brianstabile165]

Michael Oviedo Noble team they take plasma and ballistic damage like pros unlike delta who only had blaster round dr So all go full auto

[@HayderAbdulridha]

Decimate? You mean obliterate?

[@sinisterisrandom8537]

Hmm Noble 6 that we played as Was able survive for Hours against the Covenant Single handedly literally So just one of them is enough but 5 Meh bye bye Delta

[@Raphoovvv]

sinister is random I agree but noble 6 was way better than the rest of noble team. Your point still stands though. Luckily eck doesn't include noble 6 because that would make this matchup even more unfair towards delta squad.

[@lamtung5300]

Dr.halsey: "Noble Six, the team's most recent addition. My my, so much black ink. Six has made entire militia groups disappear. Curious... 'hyper-lethal.' There's only one other Spartan with that rating..." Speak, him alone would be enough

[@joshuasamuels4802]

Survive after pulling a 117. Ya know? The several YOLO jumps?

[@malcolmfitzgerald6801]

I adore delta squad and the game they originate from but noble team should win this fight.

[@shadekerensky3691]

Also Katarn armor, whilst lighter, has a durability advantage thanks to the materials used, an advantage shown by the fact that a Commando can take a laser cannon to the chest plate and still remain combat effective and alive afterwards, as shown both in the books and in the games during the fight with the Dwarf Spider Droids.

[@Neko_-je3hg]

Noble 6 is described as hyper lethal like John 117

[@nyalan8385]

I'm pretty sure he discluded six because if six was included delta squad would get REKT. I like star wars and halo relatively equally but six had the highest lethality rating of all the spartans. They sent him in solo to take out armies.

[@egalitarianism9203]

they really didnt

[@joenuts8312]

@@egalitarianism9203 He made entire terrorist groups disappear overnight. I've been seeing your comments, and you clearly know nothing about Halo. I used to be in your spot to. Then I got my hands on a good game (Halo: Reach) and it made me realize that the soldiers in Star Wars are pussy ass bitches compared to other universes.

[@pieman2435]

@@egalitarianism9203 dont say shit without knowing beforehand

[@egalitarianism9203]

considering I've read the entirety of kilo-five, most of eric nylund's books, played all halo games except halo wars 2, yeah, i'm pretty sure i know about Halo.

[@PlanesAndHoes]

@@egalitarianism9203 Considering how the game and a couple books talk about how he made entire criminal organisations and rebel groups disappear, he is hyper lethal. You may have read the books, but you weren't paying attention.

[@ESFNinja]

It's really hard to say. Both teams have their own strengths and weaknesses, only realistically effective in their respective universes. It's like comparing apples to oranges. There's no real way to tell who would win. Anyway, keep up the good work, Eck!

[@tonyscalze4077]

Captain Cutter exactly. I love them both equally. Total badass's

[@thatguyofdark]

yea im gettin that feeling too. The fact that clone commandos are one of the best ops teams in star wars during the clone wars means nothing when spartans are basically superman.

[@SUSsykage]

Captain Cutter But what about your Red Team especially Jerome-092 (now Commander Jerome)?

[@chrisdaniels4954]

Captain Cutter do you realize that a single company of 180 spartans took down a covenant supply planet in there own territory where as 10,000 commandos couldnt take a planet spartans are among the best military units in SiFi the only one better is the space marines from 40K clone commandos have the best armor in the entire grand army of the republic

[@michaelscalese4656]

Apple's and oranges are both fruits... I hate that analogy it means nothing. I prefer oranges to Apples, they taste better.

[@schmidtyfilms9592]

You should do the Iron Giant vs Liberty Prime from the fallout games

[@GooseAtron5000]

The iron giant wins

[@EdelYT]

Iron Giant dude. No contest.

[@eliaslovell7756]

Iron Giant.

[@bjorneagleeye672]

Also, Spartans are pretty good at picking up most weapons from fallen foes and are able to use them proficiently.

[@Cha-Khia]

With proper training, that being said, Covenant weapons aren't quite the same as UNSC weapons, most Star Wars weapons are very similar to UNSC weapons, they'd probably figure them out quickly enough.

[@timbartschwolfman]

Eckhart's Ladder Nice video 👍👍👍 Delta Squad vs Inferno Squadron who would win?

[@walker1085]

Tim Bartsch definitely delta

[@samdale3937]

That’s a good one: a bunch of traitors vs clones of the best bounty hunter ever trained from birth and given the best equipment. I’m my eyes it’s no contest.

[@timbartschwolfman]

Sam dale Nice 👍

[@Zimzilla99]

Tim Bartsch delta stomps easy

[@timbartschwolfman]

Nice 👍 Better Clone Commander Rex vs Cody Who would win?

[@itsyaboidaniel2919]

Blacklight Virus vs The Flood *130th Attempt!!! I WILL NOT STOP!!!*

[@Raving_Rando]

Don't give up on the dream.

[@itsyaboidaniel2919]

If I planned on stopping I would have done it by now, I will not stop, I cannot be bribed, I cannot be reasoned with, I will not stop until Eck does what I have asked him to do for so long,

[@azralar7848]

Black light if given enough hosts would stomp imo. Especially if Alex Mercer is involved

[@yog7439]

NOBLE!

[@CT--hb7hs]

Which one?

[@Vader3404]

hey george lucas, why did u sell star wars to disney. Not that i do not like disney's new movies or their stuff but its just that I believe that you could do better.

[@CommanderM117]

traitor

[@mattg8051]

all idiots this is the fake george lucas

[@CJ-bm4mt]

Noble Six lol

[@Scaphism36]

I think if the clones knew who they were going against they could use better weapons. They were specialized against weakly armored but numerous enemies so the Spartans were the exact opposite of what delta squad was supposed to be fighting

[@Olorin884]

Dude. Great vid. I have some points though, and Spartans would win 10/10. Shields on Mjolnir armor were developed from Covenant tech. Meant to take energy/plasma blasts (which Clones use). Spartans are trained to combat elite Covenant units of all ranks and species and are highly effective, Clone troopers fight against droids. Clones - albeit having trained together since birth - do not exhibit any more unit cohesiveness than Spartans. Spartans, like modern soldiers, think independantly on the battlefield, but always defer to chain of command for mission directives. Also, Spartans demonstrate countless acts of brotherly love within units. John-117 refused to leave any man behind, and Carter-A259, Jorge-052, and Thom-A293 all sacrifice their own lives to save the others. You can reference the book, "The Fall of Reach" for more examples. Spartans are augmented to go beyond what even the best of human peak physical condition is, including skeletal and neural augmentation. Their reaction time is unparalleled and the addition of their specialized armor increases reaction time exponentially. While the UNSC does issue weapons that use physical ammunition, it must be stated that the munitions are either armor piercing or semi-armor piercing, gas powered rounds, and have been proven to be effective against plasma shielding utilized by the Covenant. Even the more mass produced Spartan IIIs outmatch Delta Squad. I don't think this engagement would even be close.

[@falnelliah2084]

I would however argue that if they went up against the Null Arcs that it would be a much more fair fight. Null Arcs had extreme genetic modifications. So extreme that they were so hyper intelligent that they were always extremely paranoid. Plus the genetic modifications on physical abilities were also out of the roof, not as good as Spartans by a long shot but still very capable.

[@JsphCrrll]

@@falnelliah2084 but can the nulls lift tanks?

[@falnelliah2084]

@@JsphCrrll no, and on strength I would say the Spartans have it. But intelligence and strategy the Null Arcs do.

[@JsphCrrll]

@@falnelliah2084 um... you really underestimate spartans. Spartan Jerome fought 20+ brutes in close quarters and killed them all without breaking a sweat. Spartan Linda Shot banshee pilots out of their banshees while upside down and one handed. So strategy I'd say spartans win.

[@JsphCrrll]

And those were only 2 instances.

[@andrew.w7214]

2:11 those pods remind of master chief's helmet

[@100_American_Bison]

Spartans (Halo) vs N7 (Mass Effect) and UNSC Marines (Halo) vs System Alliance Marines (Mass Effect)

[@lilnoodleman2429]

With Spartan upgrades they would wipe the floor against N7s (not shepherd though cause i could never say that about him/her) but the UNSC Marines vs System Alliance Marines would be pretty interesting.

[@CatastrophicMarauder]

100% American Buffalo yeah that fight between n7 and Spartans would be over rather quickly lol

[@mr.rufasi2729]

Maybe Spartans vs geth primes? Spartans would still probably win tho

[@Roado_]

100% American Buffalo what kind of Spartans? We talking about the I's, II's, III's, or IV's?

[@100_American_Bison]

A Banana Assassin I let you choose but only one rule: the Spartans can only use tech and abilities only related to their gen only

[@Delta-07999]

Boss vs Carter: Boss wins Sev vs Jun: Sev wins Scorch vs Emile: Emile wins Fixer vs Kat: Fixer wins

[@slavicspider7762]

I feel like Georges HMG would rip right through the katon armour Sorry about the bad spelling

[@Bowfella]

Noble team wins in probably 2 minutes tops... Clones are just essentially humans at peak performance. Spartans are augmented to already have 3x the strength of a normal marine. Add on the Mjionir armour and they're 5x stronger than that making them around 15x stronger than a clone trooper... Add on the fact that bullets go MUCH faster than starwars blasters. Delta squad's armour has next to no protection against Noble team's rounds. Meanwhile Mjionir armour has energy shields that can take multiple plasma rounds alone. Spartans have been known to have their vital organs completely destroyed and still live to fight until their adrenaline goes down, Emile had an energy sword stabbed through his lungs, spine, and heart and still lived long enough to kill the elite with his knife. Plus Spartans have "spartan time" Meaning in a mexican standoff the spartan would already have his gun out the second the clone already heard "draw" and began reaching for his. Noble 6 alone could eliminate delta squad. He literally belongs in a class called "hyper lethal vector".

[@Bowfella]

@Adam and Eve Lmao you're an absolute LABOTOMITE. You don't even know the lore of the universe you were a fanboy of and NOTHING about halo... Clone troopers did train from birth BUT THEY AGED TWICE AS FAST. So they've only trained for a mere 9 years before they were battle ready. Spartans, especially noble team, have WAY more battle experience simply because they've been alive much longer. Did you read my fucking comment? Spartans can flip TANKS with ease and have 3x the strength of a clone WITHOUT their armour. That's not even mentioning their enhanced reflexes that allow them to see in slow motion. A single spartan could take out multiple clones before they even knew their buddies were dead. A spartan could EASILY take on half a dozen clones if neither had armour on.

[@overconfidentmegthatgetstu9120]

@Adam and Eve Spartans can flip over tanks. I'm sure the flood would love to have all of the star wars technology. They completely destroyed the forerunners which I'm sure were more advanced than anything the star wars universe has. Oh yeah and I forgot cortana has the gigantic guardians and can just disable all ships that oppose her. And pretty sure she would persuade the droids to fight for her just like she has with most other a.i.

[@samspeed6271]

The Spartans also have a better variety of weapons. Jorge has his . 50 cal general purpose machine gun; Emile has an 8 gauge shotgun; and Jun has a 14.5mm sniper rifle firing APDSFS shells. Delta team just doesn't have the firepower to compete, even with a grenade launcher.

[@josiahlangworthy498]

I'd have to disagree with that. As he explained in the video, the commando's weapons are incredibly versatile and are arguably superior to the Spartan weapons in every way.

[@geekyluna1909]

@@josiahlangworthy498 I disagree with you if it takes many shots to kill a droid but only one shotgun blast to kill two banshees than even the commandos weaponry would fail miserabaly

[@IanJackson33]

8 gauge shotgun? man that's a small shotgun. i don't know much about lore and such but guns i do know and a 8 gauge is pretty small. unless the gun is using specialized rounds or something.

[@jordanwoods2475]

ok so how shotguns work higher the gauge smaller the gun so starting at 20 gauge 16 gauge then 12 gauge then 10 gauge 8 gauge then the infamous 5 gauge also known as a punt gun. I personally own all these except a 5 gauge. So an 8 gauge is no joke its a very terrifying shotgun.

[@IanJackson33]

@@jordanwoods2475 yeh for some reason i thought the 8 gauge was smaller. I own a 10, 16, 12, and a 5 gauge with a few big rifles like the 30-06, 30-30 and 308 calibers. Need them guns for the big animals up here in the arctic areas

[@GSUnhinged]

That one time a SPARTAN III kept fighting and crossed a ravine on a zip line with a blown out rib cage. Broseph was dead, for real dead, and kept fighting on adrenaline until he saluted Halsey and collapsed. So, if the clones were able to actually kill one with anything less than a headshot (RIP Kat) the III's have the possibility to tank death until they stop fighting, or bleed completely out, and basically get kills from the grave. And then there's George. He's a big boy.

[@Orange-wf8wh]

GearStruck nope, the whole keep fighting and get strength from pain augmentations was only for gamma company, and there are no GC Spartans on noble

[@tiefighter8401]

DARN Discord mods, not posting the video....35 minutes late...mumble mumble

[@darthvader4594]

I've exited the slipspace,arrive on eck system now

[@napoleonicinfanterie6377]

Lord Vader the rebels on the far side of the system has detected us sir

[@timbartschwolfman]

Darth Vader To quote Palpatine "do what must be done Lord Vader"

[@napoleonicinfanterie6377]

Lord Vader shall we open fire sir

[@timbartschwolfman]

storm trooper lieutenant I would

[@napoleonicinfanterie6377]

Tim Bartsch fire when ready

[@Milk-zn4yc]

eck you better do the right thing.

[@Milk-zn4yc]

BAH for the republic.

[@Zankaru]

Next on eckhartsLadder: Two kodiak grizzly bears vs a team of ten ferrets. lol, seriously though, good breakdown.

[@truesonsofmandalore]

I think that the Deltas could definitely take them a few more times out of ten then 8.5 if they were on the defensive. Delta Squad is exceedingly gifted in tactical operations, and given this, being clever would allow them to shine most. Things like ambushes with IEDs and other things to catch the Spartans of guard. Granted the super human prowess and reaction time of the Noble Team could compensate for this, but this doesn't make them not able to be killed. Overall it would come down to whoever makes the best use of their equipment in my mind. Like Eck said, without their gear in head on combat, the Spartans take it every time. The commandos aren't head on soldiers though, they're infiltrators and excel in tactical efficiency and team work. It all depends on the scenario. The same reason Delta Squad can't charge in on an SBD dispenser in the game is the same logic used here. They'd have to outsmart the Noble Team.

[@ben501st]

Each member of delta squad has 2 projectile weapons that can 1 shot a Spartan. One with indirect fire capabilities.

[@anthonyhowell4090]

This is a decent match up, but I also notice that you use Noble team at effectively their height(minus Noble Six) vs Delta Squad during their first deployment. Delta Squad specifically among the RC units enjoyed collecting diverse weapons to bring on their missions such as concussion rifles, slugthrowers, etc, and imo comparing Katarn mk1 to mk3 armor is like comparing a wooden plank to a whole tank. Using each team at their height I'd give it closer to a 5/5 split

[@jackseaward2330]

Delta Squad are basically the middle ground between ODSTs and Spartan 4s.

[@xtsupermotard]

Jack Sutton They'd murder IVs

[@egalitarianism9203]

You can't compare shock troops to special forces. They do entirely different things. BTW, ODSTS can't beat Commandos. Sorry. That just makes no sense

[@johnnyshark2029]

the inappropriate gentleman what are ypu on about

[@nanderlizernanderlizer684]

@@xtsupermotard dont be silly. of course they wouldnt

[@davidmclean-e5k]

Imagine fighting SIX captain Americas BUT ditch the Frisbee shield give him a minigun and a suit of armour that cost just over half a billion bucks. There is four of you.

[@HwangInhoBooNam]

A Spartan is stronger, faster and has more resistance than an average supersoldier like Captain America