2025 Best Cars & SUV's | STUPID People Buy Something Else

[@zenombereznicki]

I am not sure of selecting Benz due to reliability issues. Yor reference to spotty histrory is an understatement. Remember: " if it ain't brocken, not enough options "

[@MegaGuitarpicker]

I love your videos! I think (HOPE!) after a recent event, car manufacturers may bring back engines with displacement and cylinders instead of turbos and voltage (although putting a boost on an already powerful engine doesn’t hurt). I bet gas mileage and power can increase along with emissions decreasing. The government mandates have had me thinking we are in the 1980’s with cars today that are lacking quality and power. Makes me think they are using college students and Lean Six Sigma to design and build them cheaply. I hope Toyota survives, restructures and ditches the management that caused the engine issues they created.

[@tonyenders5405]

G to I'm​@@MegaGuitarpicker

[@lukewalker1051]

You corner the market Mark on the best youtube channel addressing automotive reliability. Thank you for your educational videos as your voice is much needed as manufacturers take advantage of consumer ignorance with ever increasing technical complexity. PS. I should open my piggie bank and buy that 911 you reviewed. I have been to the well too much and no longer need the fix to pony up but I still think about it. To me Porsche is the king but comes with a price. As to the inevitable comparison with the C8 Z06, speaking of reliability, Porsches are better sorted. Even though I worked at Chevy Engineering where the C8 was developed, it has been plagued with typical GM problems and in particular dual clutch transmission problems you don't want to live with when the warranty expires.

[@ECPP]

Thank you so much, I really appreciate your support and I agree we need this type of info available because mainstream reviewers and marketers do a great job of showcasing these vehicles as new, but what happens after 3 years, 6 years, 10 years. Porsche 911, other than maybe 996 will last a long time, albeit at a cost. Hope you have a wonderful weekend.

[@TequilaShotsBeerChaser]

These are his personal choices. Buy what you want if you can afford it, if not, don't.

[@ECPP]

Indeed

[@hectorconde6046]

I agree with your recommendations. I'm very happy to hear that they got rid of the Honda Civic 1.5 turbo. For this segment I prefer the mazda3. We've owned at least one mazda3 for the past 20 yrs with no issue so much so that this year when my daughter got her license she wanted a mazda3 I didn't hesitate to get her one. They have the best interiors, reliability and drive like dream for a compact. I enjoy your videos, keep them coming.

[@boydgrandy5769]

I bought a Mazda CX-30 back in June. A bit shorter wheelbase than the CX-50, and $4000 cheaper. I really like this car. AWD, 6 speed auto trans, 2.5 liter bullet proof motor (I passed on the turbo), and it introduced me into the radar controlled place keeping feature of the cruise control system of the car. The price point is well under $30,000 USD, so it has been quite a success for Mazda. They really are pushing the CX-50 though.

[@JasPlun]

I think you nailed this list, but I have to say the Nissan Frontier gets my vote for best mid-size truck it all natural aspirated engines win in reliability and they do not have CVT's like other Nissans.

[@ECPP]

I agree the Frontier is a hidden gem and I have also included that in other videos as a great choice for those reasons

[@wildemath]

I've owned both Hondas and Toyotas. While both are excellent and hold their resale, I would choose Toyota every time now. Our latest Honda (07 Civic) had little annoyances like failing cruise, upholstery separations, multiple broken sun visors, burnt out dashboard lights, failing starter, etc. Toyota had none of these problems at comparable mileage. Happy to be driving a '20 Highlander and '22 Corolla.

[@jasonzimmerer8658]

I’ve been looking at 2022-2024 Camry’s. Any complaints about the transmission/shifting?

[@Whilewearestillhere]

You need to upgrade your Honda to a newer model😊

[@asadb1990]

you can change out the bulbs lol😊

[@wildemath]

You ever torn apart a dashboard to change a backlight for an HVAC unit?

[@asadb1990]

@wildemath most of it clicks on. Yeah its cumbersome but there are workarounds if you want to do the work. If you dont, you can always complain lol.

[@damirzanne]

all great cars , as a car enthusiast, my pic would be GLB, 911 or Macan ( life is too short to drive boring cars lol) … but for right now I’ll just enjoy my 2016 Cayenne, which I just paid off couple days ago, next move is to pay off my 2015 S550, probably by the end of next year , and then I may upgrade to nice 911 or GLS 450 … great video , as always 👍

[@ECPP]

Thank you for sharing. I like your choices in cars and I totally agree. My wife has been wanting us to buy a Cayenne but time will tell. The 911 is such a great car, honestly

[@tyhmintyomies5739]

Enthusiast GLB & Macan 🤔 🤔 -> 😂🤣😂😂🤣🤣 Fun joke.

[@damirzanne]

@@tyhmintyomies5739 you can’t afford neither , so piss off 😂😂😂 … go scrape some rust off your ‘79 Toyota 😂😂😂

[@Vincent-ke5zn]

The green Mazda is a very beautiful, sharp looking vehicle, so far, my favorite

[@mazdafan22]

Believe it or not, the colour of that Mazda is called Zircon Sand. But I agree it looks more like Green than a Sand colour

[@Vincent-ke5zn]

The Lexus is fast enough, but I want the reliability of the Lexus

[@ECPP]

Can’t go wrong with the reliability of these

[@W31rdG]

Been eyeing a Mazda CX-50 for the past couple of years (hoping to buy within the next year or two). It probably offers the best value in the crossover or compact SUV segment. It's definitely the best looking and it's probably the most reliable in the price range. Starting with the 2025 models, the CX-50 will also come with a hybrid engine option. They'll be using the Rav4 hybrid engine which is tried and tested. IMO, they've probably been one of the best bang for buck vehicles over the past few years. There haven't been significant changes to the CX-50 since it's inception in 2022, so buying pre-owned might be a better option for people considering the non-hybrid version.

[@kirkmanning6232]

Interesting that Honda Canada dealers have red facades and signage. They are blue in the states.

[@ECPP]

That’s sort of unique indeed

[@AP-xm3po]

Taking the 1.5 turbo civic over base ANY day. 2.0 is inefficient, sluggish and doesn’t handle well - had friends own them and it’s night and day. If you treat the 1.5 well, regular oil etc it’s a superb car and cheap to run/insure.

[@Vincent-ke5zn]

The only way I would buy a Porsche is IF I lived near the Autobahn. The Porsche is a show off vehicle that's too expensive for anyone in America, where you can't drive it that fast without getting thrown under the jail

[@AlistairArbour-qi3xp]

I drove the xc60 on the autobahn last week!! It was such a beautiful experience!! The highway is flawless and people make sure to follow the rules.

[@flashsushi1843]

Mark, I will be buying used down the road. Lots of savings to be had. Surprised Honda Canada now sells 10 year / 160,000 km warranties for $3000 CAD. With Honda, we are able to buy the same extended warranty whereas for Toyotas, an inferior CPO warranty can be had. Looks like I may go for the Civic hatch hybrid as my next vehicle.

[@ECPP]

Hi, good morning. Great choice on the Honda as they are fun little cars and still one of the best in its class. Think Corolla…..reliable but not as fun to drive. Mazda 3 is also cool but at that point the other factors are worth looking at like warranty and features.

[@stuartfisher1640]

Love your videos keep them coming

[@ECPP]

Thank you very much. For sure I am just getting. Started

[@patrickchilds5486]

Great Honda back to the four non turbo! Hopefully Toyota goes back that way.

[@ECPP]

I hope so too!

[@2driverpls652]

Ok… based on your video I tested an X3… Too much plastic in the interior for a “luxury” car. Best off reader…I will still take my Toyota FJ all day every day. Keep up the good work.

[@ECPP]

Thanks for sharing

[@ronrandall7118]

Your my go to person for what cars to buy and what to avoid. You definitely know your stuff. Thank You!!!

[@ECPP]

Thank you very much for the support. Yes we need info to help guide the ownership journey as we really only hear about all the good from marketers but how do these cars last for the long term

[@CharlesReynolds-nb5bb]

Some people buy cars because of it’s aesthetic looks but not for it’s reliability and some people buys second hand luxury vehicles to compete with Jones’s without knowing they are buying the money pits. As always excellent video content sir and very informative 👍😊

[@ProblematicAraaB]

Mazdas are fun to drive, wish they had more stock power though

[@ECPP]

True they handle well and generally are fun. A little more zing would be more than welcome

[@TinoMiller]

As of this week all these car manufacturers are having problems based on shares and stocks .. From 2022 onward all car manufacturers are having issues with all their vehicles .. Moral being that get what you want at a right price and do your research ..

[@ECPP]

Thanks for sharing

[@pgrut8880]

Happy Honda dumped the turbo. That turbo was a no go for me.

[@NH-jl2nb]

Great video. I always watch your channel. Thank you. Any thoughts on Acura RDX?

[@ECPP]

I like it. Great option in that class

[@sabastian4858]

Taco's suck. They are foreign assembled and are rattle traps not to mention the motors that grenade before 40k miles.

[@ECPP]

Cheerz

[@jamesseabolt5915]

What do you drive sabastian?

[@williamrossetter9430]

Agree with most of your choices, however, the new Tacoma has a turbo which might last up to 150k, then what? Glad that my truck (HOnda Ridgeline) has a normally aspirated V6. I predict issues down the road with turbos. How do i know, the company from which I retired remans turbos. Get the Honda Ridgeline or the Nissan Frontier and skip the Tacoma.

[@josephbukal9850]

We have a 2024 CX-50 great value and looks.

[@PG_200]

Fun and enjoyable video. Thank You🤟

[@ECPP]

Thanks a lot for watching. I really appreciate that

[@is4life862]

Good video. Lexus IS500 only downside is the 8spd transmission doesn't shift well at certain rpm levels 🙄

[@ECPP]

That’s fair it’s not the most sporty offering but one heck of a car

[@nicksobolta717]

The IS500 is a little old school but the V8 is to die for. I Don't find the 8 speed trans that bad, just not as smooth as others. The motor is the last of it's kind.

[@asadb1990]

​@nicksobolta717 the v8 is fine daily use and can get power in most cases except maybe in racing condition

[@angelortunorubio6899]

Good morning Mark, congratulations on your work. I have a dilemma about my next purchase, I had almost closed an X3 M40i 2020, but finally I have to choose between a 330i or a 430i coupe, both from 2021. Thank you in advance. Regards!!!

[@ECPP]

I understand that’s how things go and the other cars you are looking at are both great and have the same basic drivetrain and infrastructure so it’s your choice if you prefer the sedan or coupe. My choice would be the 330 for its practicality but the b48 turbo4 I. There is great just make sure there is some solid service history and watch for cooling system issues with higher miles. Great car overall and the 8 speed ZF is amazing and reliable.

[@angelortunorubio6899]

@ The aesthetics of the coupe appeal to me more, but it is true that the sedan is more practical. Both units have an extended BMW warranty in force. Thank you very much for your attentive message. I really appreciate it. Best regards from Spain

[@peterandersen1378]

Toyota Tacoma 4 banger turbo. No thanks, I’ll keep my 2016 Ford F-150 Supercrew 5.0 4x4.

[@ECPP]

Coyote is a solid runner

[@landsealifestyle3403]

All these larger vehicles with BS 4 cylinder!!!!

[@ECPP]

Silliness

[@linvesel]

1. Honda Civic: even though it’s NA, I’m sure the Honda leadership have found a way to ensure oil/fuel dilution happens even without a turbo, to prevent engines from lasting too long. 2. Mercedes GLB: oil/fuel dilution and engineered obsolescence, paired with a squeaky dash ensures new car sales every 80k miles, which is better for the company and therefore better for climate change. 3. Toyota Tacoma and Lexus GX: failing torque converters, suspension components and grenading main bearings in the twin turbo v6 are signs of exemplary reliability. Their only shortcoming is that the A, B and C pillars do not collapse while in motion. Let’s hope that the engineers address this and add this long awaited feature in the future facelift. 4. Macan EV: Since Taycan is its grandfather, it has a lot to live up to when it comes to reliability. Taycan’s claim to fame in reliability is truly hard to beat since its debut onboard the Fremantle Highway-Taycan did put on a really bright show. Not sure if Macan EV would be able to live up to its predecessor’s glory. 6. The Mazda SUV is the worst of the bunch-the interior is free of signature squeaks and rattles, put together with unnecessary increase in build quality. Worst of all it has a new design of pistons and combustion chamber -this in itself is a terrible idea because it increases power and efficiency per unit of displacement-thus contributing to improved fuel economy with or without the turbo. This is all unnecessary innovation that leads to better ownership experience at the cost of lower production and sales figures. Not good.

[@peterandersen1378]

Run don’t walk away from Range River. Junk!

[@ECPP]

Haha indeed

[@docholliday2961]

Out of all only 2 I would be interested on buying you guess it . the pilot / sienna but I wait till I get 0 apr and no ghost fees on either one other than that no thank you 👍

[@RaymondCuradeau-p3v]

Mazda CX-70 2025 gt-p for me 😛

[@ECPP]

Very nice vehicles indeed

[@AlistairArbour-qi3xp]

Hey brother! Love the channel!! I was looking at picking up a used 2021 xc40 and wanted to get your opinion on which version you would recommend diesel, petrol, or hybrid? Thank you in advance.

[@ZorrowTasogare92]

I think the Nissan frontier is the best mid size pick up

[@tomcharbonneau9788]

Nissan Frontier comes close to the taco, and has the v6

[@ECPP]

Indeed

[@smayer2683]

I'm a Toyota fan through & through, but I'd get a new Nissan Frontier over the new Tacoma if I wanted a midsize truck...naturally aspirated V6 and bulletproof transmission combo. New Toyotas seem to be slipping in the quality department

[@dystopia-usa]

Good lucking finding something you can stand looking at that doesn't have a belt/chain CVT transmission, turbo engine, 100% direct-inject engine, cylinder-deactivation or start-stop - because all those systems are regulation-forced garbage for any buyer that plans to keep a vehicle past the power-train warranty period. Also, the proximity fob lock/unlock/start systems in new vehicles today are annoying, stupid & completely unnecessary. A lot of idiotic tech gimmicks to impress the herd animals.

[@johnsanford3596]

Dude, TWO unforced errors with the CX-50. First, ALL Mazda SUVs in the USA and Canada are All Wherl Drive. "Generally" implies that some do not. Second, the CX-50 and CX-5 do NOT share their chassis.

[@davea4037]

Hi Mark. Wish Honda woulda had an 8 spd auto option instead of a cvt to go with that 2.0l. Wish Porsche woulda kept at least one 6 cyl option for the macan. Let the customers vote w theie wallets.

[@dad242]

Agree with the list but still prefer the CX-5 over the 50.

[@glenglene8473]

The Pilot you pointed to used 9 speed trans not 10 speed.

[@ECPP]

Thanks for sharing

[@edgarsantana3695]

Nice list. What you would your opinion in the Acura RDX, TLX and MDX?

[@Mach141]

Been looking for a mid size SUV on the luxury side, I think Im going benz GLE or M. I reliability issues dont scare me, I can do my own maintenance, and they sure do not hold their value, so right in my price range. Or do I just go Honda pilot? I do prefer RWD

[@hillbillyflipper3843]

I am thinking of trading my 2020 Macan S this spring. I am considering a Macan Turbo but the sound of the 2.9L, i dunno, that electric sound track lol i dunno. Also considering the 2024 Cayenne S that is basically a cheap Turbo GT. Of course i would love to purchase a 911 GTS but i really don't want to spend that much chedda but the main reason is im old, fat and arthritic. Getting into a 911 would be easier for me to lay on the ground and roll into it and same getting out. Lolol

[@Dev-wz4vd]

Best review presentation good job.

[@victorrodriguez8917]

I have yukon denali with the 6.2 and engine has been replaced twice ., that means three engine so far in two years… dont buy this truck .

[@Vincent-ke5zn]

I would take the Honda, not the Benz . What I can't do without is watching your videos Mark

[@raymondpiovesan5903]

CVT in the Honda. You forgot to mention

[@W31rdG]

The Tacoma used to be reliable when it came with a V6 engine. The 2024 models with the 4-cylinder turbo engine have been plagued with issues. Many Toyota dealerships won't even buy them back to sell as used vehicles because of the issues. There are lots of reviews and videos on KZbin discussing the various problems. The best Tacomas to buy are the 2023 model or any year before it with the V6. Avoid anything from 2024 and on with the 4-cylinder turbo. It's difficult to say the 2025 models will be more reliable considering how disappointing the 2024 models were. The Tacomas should get better with each year, but they're no longer worth the price. The 2024 Tacoma MSRP is way too high considering the downgraded engine, and I doubt the MSRP will be any lower with the 2025 model. Tacoma 2023 (Regular Unleaded V-6) MSRP - $41,350 - $54,350 (in CAD) Tacoma 2024 (Intercooled Turbo Regular Unleaded I-4) MSRP - $46,950 - $82,950 (in CAD) How can any new car buyer justify paying for a 2024 or 2025 Tacoma when the 2023 and earlier models offer better value? It's better to buy pre-owned.

[@johnsanford3596]

Visually, everything forward of the windshield on the X3 is an epic fail.

[@thurstn967]

For Toyota family, including Lexus will be in the class action lawsuits in 2025 with newest engines and transmission problematic. For Mazda CX-90, CX-70 and CX-50 should be the great choices SUV in 2025 for majority consumers consideration.

[@danr4197]

I bet the BUILD QUALITY of the Tacoma is great too built in Mexico!

[@Vincent-ke5zn]

I would love the Honda pilot

[@Vincent-ke5zn]

I would love to have a Tacoma, BUT NOT THE NEW ONES

[@timgibbs4762]

Kind of Toyota/Lexus and Honda advert? One of the most popular small SUVs is the Audi Q5.

[@hlb0111]

The Lexus GX is a huge disappointment due to the VERY poorly designed cargo area. It's why I didn't buy it.

[@mathieugroleau6216]

I have a 2018 honda civic si manual hfp kits full 119000 km i wanna make a move to get into honda civic type R black 55000 km what do you think (si will be sold fort 18800 and the new car will be bought 37000 cad. I wonder what commment i will get.

[@scottgrey6961]

I would get a MAZDA if the infotainment scren was a touchscreen

[@ECPP]

Cheers

[@Kimberlyk12]

They are touchscreen in Android auto or Apple car play. Also the buttons that control the infotainment system is so amazing! It's so memorizable that it beats touching the screen, and the buttons sit in the most easy to reach place. I prefer it to the touchscreen rav 4 I also drive

[@jimfleury6349]

💯 disagree with you about the taco. Toyota quality has taken a nose dive with the next generation taco and tundra. Bigtime a little research on these will reflect that !!!

[@erikk5992]

What do you think about the Dodge classic that are still available with the Hemi V8?

[@Joseph-namvet]

Lexus RX 350 F Sport Handling is awesome. The 4 cylinder has same 275 h.p. as the old 6 cylinder. As the bonus, the 4 cylinder has slightly more torque than the 6.

[@asadb1990]

v6 last gen has 305hp. and power is smooth with much quieter cabin

[@roco8809]

2016-2022 Rx =295 hp

[@Joseph-namvet]

I stand corrected. My 2014 Cayman is a 6 cylinder with a 275-horsepower engine that I factory ordered back in 2013. My new RX 350 has 275 h.p. which has more than enough giddy-up. I want to hear the engine roar especially when I accelerate from a stop. I guess there are different strokes for different folks

[@Vincent-ke5zn]

I love the Lexus 550 ,BUT the v6 twin turbo engines just aren't my style

[@TahoeKing]

crv hybrid or cx50 hybrid? Both 2025 models.

[@ECPP]

Do you need Hybrid? My choice would be the Mazda CX50 turbo

[@TahoeKing]

Yes Mark, I'm going for a hybrid. You know gas prices in Canada 😂.... So which one as a hybrid?

[@Kimberlyk12]

​@@TahoeKing the cx-50 has the Toyota Rav 4 hybrid system 🤷‍♀️

[@TahoeKing]

​​@@Kimberlyk12which is a plus right? The whole industry is learning hybrid technology from Toyota. The only thing I don't like in Mazda is its design. Less SUV and kinda more of a small wagon, so interior space is noticeably less than crv

[@valdeck553]

Civic has CVT, not an automatic transmission. It's a huge difference. Don't mislead people, please.

[@dad242]

It's a proven CVT. Honda, Toyota have the best ones. And have you ever heard of a manual cvt? Automatic only.

[@valdeck553]

@dad242 CVT stands for continuously variable transmission, not for an automatic transmission.

[@cerinawoehrley4199]

What you guys think of the subaru impreza rs 2.5 motor

[@mdw2057]

The Ford Maverick is better than that Tacoma, especially for the price point MSRP starting around $25k you can beat it

[@dad242]

Give it a year it'll fall apart lol.

[@mdw2057]

Iol I worked for several Car dealerships including BMW, Subaru Mazda & Honda for 10years. The 2.0 engine that's in the Maverick is tried and true. They been making that engine for at least 15 years. So it has a history of reliability

[@dad242]

@mdw2057 Apples and oranges.. Different types and hybrid technologies. The only reason the Maverick is successful is because it doesn't have competition. Wait until others make a small truck. It'll be bottom of the heap.

[@mdw2057]

It actually does have competition the Hyundai Santa Cruz. I'm not a Ford Loyalists I'm just saying it's a good Truck & people should respect that. Motorweek, Motortrend & KBB all did testing on this truck & it's rated really high.

[@dad242]

@mdw2057 Yes, only the Santa Cruz. Why they're in the smaller category. 👍 Ford sells a ton of those because everyone wants a smaller truck.

[@Vincent-ke5zn]

I love the Lexus IS500

[@ECPP]

Yes so do I. It looks great and sounds great but also has solid reliability

[@AfrikanAssassin]

Solid list. 🫡

[@ECPP]

Thanks and a great go to for this year coming up

[@BarefootCowboy]

Only stupid people are going with todays car prices.Screw these people, I can walk in a junk yard and build what serves me.

[@ernestogarcia2522]

I didn’t know Steve Carrel blogs about cars.

[@ECPP]

Haha nice

[@jimkupers7556]

Tacoma?...you're buying a big problem these days........

[@annoyed-b3y]

all crap, but the honda with the 2.0 back

[@mrnarason]

I just want a reliable, hybrid crossover SUV for 30k or less

[@Vincent-ke5zn]

I also love the Honda CRV

[@mustafizrahman252]

New BMWs are horrible in the field of exterior styling...Downgraded so much with the ugliest front grills and back tail lights! Frustrating!

[@donrobbins4861]

I heard Mazdas have GDI engines?

[@anmolatwal]

V8 are gnna make a comeback!!!

[@BrentHowell-iu9vj]

U had me then you said Mercedes.

[@vickymanghera1369]

What about expedition Timberline,sir ???

[@Lasertrac]

Clean up that facial hair Mister. Presentation is everything. Good video

[@themoviebay]

So I guess you taking plays from scotty Kilmer with the whole stupid thing in your video title?

[@tatianapanea7565]

All Mazda CX-50 are AWD.

[@ECPP]

Great SUVs too

[@tomcharbonneau9788]

The Civic comes still has the crappy cvt.....

[@your_royal_highness]

I’m probably one of the stupid ones…🙄

[@makikaze]

Maybe I'm stupid but I buy Alfa Romeo Giulia Veloce.

[@ECPP]

They are fun

[@nicksobolta717]

@makikaze Never buy a European car. Lease it, then return it before the warranty expires. I've had a Giulia and loved it, but it needs a lot of warranty work.

[@makikaze]

@@nicksobolta717 I live on Europe. I hope it won't be a problem. I couldn't find another car that could meet my needs. You have a wider choice on USA. EU regulations make cars worse every year.

[@RellupNorth]

Lies you tell. Nissan Frontier and Ford Raptor eat the Tacoma up

[@ECPP]

Raptor? More fun but…… Cam Phasors…..nuff said

[@andyr9168]

old honda pilot, not 2023-2025

[@benjaminwilliams3568]

Dude 2025 civic wirh a weak 2.0 liter engine? For just a little lesa ibe can buy a 5th gen Accord with a 2.3l wirh 5 apeed manual teans,or 3 0 l engine wirh a very well rebuilt auto transmission and have a Funner more reliable car. Camrys atill can be optioned with a 3 liter 6. Why the hell would a grown ass adult buy a kid car civic? Get informed, not misinformed.

[@petergozinya6122]

I’m confused. You’re reluctant to recommend the new Ram trucks because their new V6 turbo engines are unproven but you’re fine with the new (and also unproven) 4 cylinder turbo engine in the Tacoma ? Equally confusing to me is your criticism of the Tiguan for its small 3rd row seating which you called “trash” because only little children can sit in them, but you seem to be fine with the Tacoma’s back seat that makes the Tiguan’s seats look luxurious ? Maybe I’m just one of the “stupid” people you reference in your title.

[@ECPP]

Each vehicle is in a class that serves a specific purpose and if it misses the mark, it drops in rank. Not every vehicle is suitable for everyone and the Ram comment and the turbo inline 6 is a huge risk based on extrapolating as to previous experiences. The 2.4 in the Toyota, has now been around in other forms for a good few years now and seems somewhat dependable, plus……it’s a Toyota.

[@gmarks1559]

Thoughts on the GMC terrain? Any good as a small suv?

[@ECPP]

Still have some durability options and if you want for a longer time, I would skip. Short term is ok other than depreciation. Hurts them a bit more than some competition

[@BobbyBass-x6i]

Genesis GV70 3.5T Sport Prestige AWD. 6 cylinder twin-turbo with all the bells and whistles. It’s a luxury rocket. Looks like it’s moving parked in the driveway.

[@frankiebflat5728]

Damn

[@ECPP]

Thanks

[@Chris-ov4sp]

LOL.

[@peterandersen1378]

Mercedes have troublesome electronics and too much cheap interior hard plastic surfaces.

[@ECPP]

Yes there is some of that but honestly most brands are like that these days