Edgware Road - End of the Line Ep.27

[@JagoHazzard]

I'm on the Edg... of glory

[@PassiveAgressive319]

👏👏👏❤❤❤❤

[@TheInselaffen]

Jon, Jago, and Geoff. The Grand Conjunction.

[@kellypaws]

Edgy.

[@FromtheWindowSeat]

I would never have guessed you were a Gaga fan @JagoHazzard 😂

[@kellypaws]

@@FromtheWindowSeat Indeed. You would have thought Death Metal, naturally.

[@kylesw555]

There is definitely a classic Geoff Marshall "did you see it" thing going on here, the awkward pauses and the fact that he said "circle line trains no longer terminate here" and then immediately said the opposite are tell tale signs from my experience 😄. No doubt we'll find out in the last episode of the series.

[@LeeSmith-cf1vo]

I think the pause is where he muted an incorrect platform number

[@fumthings]

@@LeeSmith-cf1vo as the vision shows platform 3, i imagine he should have voiced over "platform 3"

[@geofftech2]

i think it's a mistake in the audio when uploading - apologies, it wasn't there in the edit !!

[@spirit7741]

Legend has it that geoff is still waiting for the entrance to open

[@maryapatterson]

😂

[@darrenbertram7289]

I was most disappointed not to see it happen in the video!

[@wharpblast264]

@@darrenbertram7289 Continuity error.

[@darrenbertram7289]

@@wharpblast264 from our Geoff? 😱

[@Cpr1234]

Got to ask the big question - did the small secret entrance ever open in the end on day of filming? I would love to find out if it did or not.

[@daniel_dsouza_]

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING AT THE END LOL, does it open after all lol

[@O-sa-car]

nope 6:40

[@glitch1971]

I can't take this, he just leaves us hanging...

[@gold4leaf]

it was open the day the Google street view car drove past in Aug 2024 then back in May 2018 , but all other days it was closed !!!

[@jonathanbott87]

​@@glitch1971 he gives an ambiguous statement at the end that indicates he did not see it open

[@VirreFriberg]

There's something subtly hilarious about the live CCTV feed just showing the DOT-matrix indicators rather than programming a proper display.

[@MrKmunro]

Geoff is an angel and a God when it comes to transport for london trivia

[@andrewdale3695]

I used that secret entrance for 10 years on my daily commute. Every so often it wouldn't be open and I'd have to trudge back down the stairs, along the platform, up and around - just enough to make me late for work :(

[@MrGreatplum]

Looks like a fun station - I love that the display board is a cctv showing other display boards!

[@davidbull1914]

The secret entrance is for savvy commuters going to Marylebone station which is a short walk away. I have used in the long distant past, I think it was open all day at some point.

[@jakecoare]

Another amazing video Geoff, my Edgware Road memories is the beautiful in door station garden. I use to love looking at the beautiful plants as a little kid as we passed through the station to catch the Hammersmith and city line tube back to Barking

[@Nooticus]

The substation artwork is absolutely stunning, love it! And that CCTV footage of a departure board acting as a departure board is nothing short of ridiculously hilarious! Quirky indeed

[@ekaprasetio9564]

so good to bump into Geoff on the train last night, he is so friendly

[@geofftech2]

ha! nice to meet you :-)

[@ianjemma]

Used the station very frequently for years as our office used to be on Old Marylebone Road. Including on 7.7.05. I was in the office early. One of my colleagues was on the train that was bombed but got out at the station and it was set off afterwards.

[@TorToroPorco]

This is one of my favourite tube stations. One of the local attractions for me is the window cleaner statue opposite the Chapel Street entrance. It’s also a great area to explore with the nearby Floating Pocket Park in Paddington Basin that leads to Little Venice.

[@HenrysAdventures]

That secret side entrance would be handy if you wanted to use the bus stop next to it. A bit like how at West Croydon they put in a second entrance to make interchange with the trams easier.

[@Zharkov1969A]

The ‘secret entrance’ is really useful if the service between Edgware Road and Baker Street is suspended as you can leg it out of there and then walk the rest of the way.

[@woowoo0739]

I change trains here every morning cos working down here for a couple of weeks. The platforms and which trains go from where bewilders me pretty much every day 😂

[@markpearce5793]

When I got the Station Supervisor grade in 1993 this was my first station. Very hard going train service wise, especially doing reforms on the Circle line service and dealing with changeovers of defective stock to be sent to Hammersmith depot. I remember the odd coloured dot matrix from then. It was more noticeable in the ticket hall when the repeater board was put in as there were three orange signs and one red. I would guess it was originally a test bed for the new signs and never got changed as it works fine. In my time the Marylebone exit was always opened at the correct times unless we were short staffed. Maybe that happened on your visit.

[@darenlucas7886]

And I would have been one of your signallers in the cabin sending you to do those reforms!!

[@markpearce5793]

@@darenlucas7886 Happy days 😂 I mostly worked with Ray, the self styled Senior Man and occasionally Ted, who liked to ghost trains through 3 at short notice. You signallers had a busy time. I think that frame had the most daily movements of any box in that period. I seem to remember there wasn’t a King lever on the frame either. Despite working many larger, busier stations afterwards none were as tiring as Edgware Road 😁

[@caw25sha]

Orange LEDs on matrix displays are evidently dual colour yellow + red and occasionally you see a single LED on a display where one or other of the colours has failed so it's yellow or red in a sea of orange. Maybe you could make a video on all the stations where this has happened 😂

[@Peter-mj6lz]

I saw similar at Liverpool Street Central line. A green led when all the other led’s were orange.

[@Knyght69]

Edgware Road, the first station I learned. I stayed at the Hilton right there and hence my knowledge of the tube started there. Well, I guess it started at Heathrow, but this was home base.

[@marthaanderson2656]

gosh that building wrapper is nice!

[@kr46428]

The CCTV of the departure board is glorious. Whoever installed that was either a genius or daft.

[@trueriver1950]

My guess is that they couldn't easily route a cable from the computer to the new departure board, so it was easier to rig up a cheap camera and cable it from there.

[@OntarioTrafficMan]

The art of the bodge

[@orange13]

Edgware has an e on either edge

[@TransportGeekery]

Edgware Road (SSL) is also an OOSI with Marylebone, which is handy when coming into London off a Chiltern Railways train and wanting to head west or south west.

[@Jsone260]

Great video at Always Geoff!

[@petermostyneccleston2884]

I used to change here, and like the garden next to the train. I think that it won an award one year.

[@mlawlorcan]

Great video! Edgware Road station was one of the few End of the Line stations I visited on a trip last year. It was fun thinking "What would Geoff be saying" as I walked to my near Padddington hotel from Edgware Road!

[@BirbarianHomeGuard]

July 2005 seems like yesterday as a child. A Geoff documentary on the transit tragically attacked would be insightful.

[@doublej1076]

Me, sitting here in the States, doing the Leonard DiCaprio pointing GIF, when Geoff does a station I've actually been to.

[@smjrn63]

Lol I thought I was the only one doing that!

[@shawnw6621]

I used this station quite a bit on my last trip to London. I actually really liked it. Easy to get to the trains and you don’t have to use lifts or have a 15 minute walk to get to the platform

[@oxwof]

Ah, Edgware Road, where the Circle Line terminates and also passes through, and it leaves in three different directions, two of which are to Paddington.

[@robertclark5046]

The Daily Mail currently has a lot of correspondence about funeral request tunes. One of my choices is End of the Line by The Traveling Wilburys. Great series, Geoff.

[@mjs8780]

More like Edg of the Line

[@RightAwayProductions005]

Get out.

[@HarrowwInk]

comment this at edgware too pls

[@HarrowwInk]

​@@RightAwayProductions005 you arent the comedy police

[@John2Ward]

Ware is that, then?

[@Wildcard71]

Split in the line to not run in circles.

[@roof_of_the_fop]

I think the disused platform in Mansion House has a red dot matrix display, or at least did until recently. Might be misremembering though

[@richardgray4442]

As a northern line train operator it nice to see Edgware Road as I often get asked..”is this Edgware Road?…. No it Edgware. Different place

[@shawnw6621]

I imagine that people must get quite annoyed when the realize their error. It is a bit of journey to get back

[@Wildcard71]

Well, the A5 connects them.

[@ianmcclavin]

Yes, a few of us were tube enthusiasts at school. Often one of us would slip in an Underground question, which one morning was, " what Underground line is Edgware on?". Someone correctly answered, "the Northern," then one chao piped up, "the proper name for it is Edgware Road.." Er no, I don't think so...!!

[@darenlucas7886]

I was signaller in the now decommissioned signal cabin in the 1990s when. The red dot matrix displays do not use red LEDs but have a filter screen covering the displays to make them appear red. They were installed as a trial and also had something to do with signal visibility in the platform area at the time. I cannot recall all of the details.

[@redmooshroom68]

I heard that the red dot matrix was part of an experiment run on Edgware road station, where they wanted to add them on every station, and where testing what colour was the best. This is when they were rolling them out for the first time. Only on this platform is red, so this is one of the oldest dot matrix departure board on the London Underground. Someone correct me if I'm wrong in any way. EDIT: I don't think any other station ever had the red one, as this is the only station that was tested (so I've been told), and the orange LEDs were the ones chosen.

[@Saint_Dan132]

nice to see that happy face, another great video from glasgow with love i stay like a half mile away from polmade depot so you could imagine im a happy chappy

[@Bondek1996]

Still miss the old Circle line days.

[@LauraValcarcelRodriguez]

2:20 Geoff, you didn't mention Griffith House! There's an entrance that connects the station directly to the building (right opposite to the secret entrance that didn't open at 16.45pm on the footbridge). Lovely place Griffith House.

[@isashax]

I love these videos! Thanks!

[@ianstokes291]

Red LEDs I read were an early trial to see if they lasted longer than orange!

[@room4njoy]

Great video and Great series of End of the Line. I've enjoyed them all, and miss riding on the tubes before I moved away from London decades ago. Hope you also carry on with your Only Unconnect Ep.12 (and beyond) series in the near future. Haha, there's quite a lot of those stations to get through, so I look forward to them coming soon. You're my favourite Tube Train KZbinr, and so very knowledgeable 😀😀

[@adamhenley8295]

Thanks for this - so many memories as I used to travel from Earls Court to here every day for secondary school back in the 80s Back then the secret entrance was open all day from memory 😉

[@benspencer9705]

I'm going to be finishing my wheel the district line challenge outside Edgware Road late on Friday Night or very early Saturday morning. Talk about coincidence and great video fella.

[@davebowman6497]

That conclushion abbout how Eddgewheare shudd be spelled was gould! 😂

[@trueriver1950]

Edegeweare Reoeaede surely?

[@Anonymoususer_8823]

The Edgware Road Bakerloo Line station could be renamed as Bell Street and to keep the Edgware Road sub-surface lines station as it is. Or maybe keep the Bakerloo Line station as Edgware Road and to rename the sub-surface station as Transept Street. Either way I have been to both stations and it’s where the A40 Westway and A5 roads meet.

[@DosEqquis]

There is a neigborhood (or neighbourhood) in Seattle, Washington called ‘Wedgwood’ that always irks me for the same reason you pointed out the lack of a third ‘e’ in Edgware. I always pronounce it Wed-guh-wood in my head.

[@Sim0nTrains]

I wasn't Edgware about the dot matrix screen being in a red colour, great video Geoff

[@martinbarrios7920]

I'm so happy, another "End of the line" video!

[@philipbrailey]

Great video Geoff.

[@adeeyp]

I can't believe that there was not a commitment to return to see the side entrance actually open, we need to know what happened!!

[@bugsby4663]

I didn't realise the signal cabin had closed down there. I spent a week shadowing there in my failed attempt to become a Service Controller, many years ago.

[@Extreme_Rice]

As a North West London pedant, very much here for the correct spelling of “Edgware”.

[@cyberhero2009]

I wonder how many tourists have ended up in Edgware (end of the Northern Line) instead of Edgware Road station. I had it once when they want to go to Edgware Road itself but had to tell them that you are at the wrong station and now 35mins outside Central London

[@ianmcclavin]

You didnt mention the "Window Cleaner" statue directly outside, with a bucket and pail, staring up at the skyscraper outside!!

[@geofftech2]

yeah, i got a shot of it, but it didn't make the final edit!

[@hymek7017]

English place names can be challenging. I was familiar with the concept of silent letters which are present but not pronounced. However, the idea of invisible letters e.g. the middle E in Edgware is a new one on me.

[@robertlewis4216]

I have never seen that entrance open in 36 years

[@yellowbird8690]

The spelling of Edgware (not Edge-ware) is same as Bridgwater in Somerset (not Bridge-water).

[@ClydebridgeStation]

And the same as another station, which featured in End of the line, Edgware, on the Northern Line!

[@SWRural-fk2ub]

@@ClydebridgeStation Well, that is because Edgware Rd goes to Edgware.

[@neiltaylor6645]

The first time I went on the underground was from this station I think I was about 7 years old the Bakerloo station I mum used to live just up the road

[@darthjarjar00]

I live in the area and have not seen the side entrance open for years and years but maybe I just miss the time slots when it is open

[@richard99cookify]

Been here a lot as I used to play live poker at the Vic casino, between there and Marble Arch. Lovely cosmopolitan area, little Lebanon.

[@benh4509]

Great Edg Video!

[@nashpeleuses]

I think it would be interesting if Geoff did former terminuses of lines. (eg: Verney Junction or King William Street)

[@georgebirchall4281]

Just a query - at 6.10 there is a roundel stating EdgEware Road, as well as the one behind you Edgware Road!?!

[@Harry_Hippie]

I’m wondering about that too!. I had to watch the whole episode again just to see all the spellings of Edgware😂

[@fumthings]

as you become more familiar with dear Geoff, you will know that he photoshopped that one.

[@starfish370]

I would really like you to do a video with Jago Hazzard sometime, Geoff 🤞😊❗️

[@heckmacbuff]

That entrance does open. You can see it while queuing in the permanent traffic jam coming off the Westway.

[@tigersharkzh]

I'm glad you explained what a VPN is otherwise I wouldn't have known...

[@evanslater4551]

I believe the only ones left are Kensington Olympia on the District line and Bank and Waterloo on the Waterloo and City line? Unless we get the Elizabeth Line, DLR and Overground too?

[@smjrn63]

Well I don't recall seeing any red LED on my last visit. But I like it!!

[@DanBen07]

4:38 Bethnal Green is also the same. Has two stations but they're not connected. One tube station & one train station.

[@RichardFelstead1949]

That would be confusing, especially for visitors.

[@markomarten]

I wonder if Geoff could do a video about why Acton has so many stations, I’m sure there’s bound to be a reason and probably enough material for a video too.

[@trueriver1950]

Here's a question to ask those whose knowledge of stations is London-focused: ask them which station with Acton in the name is most northerly. ... ... ... ... Acton Bridge. It's between Crewe and Liverpool 😂 It also means that contrary to the opinion of many Londoners there are eight Acton stations, not seven as it's often claimed.

[@gerrymckenna4878]

Google Street view shows the entrance open Aug 2024 and May 2018 !!! All other dates it is shut.

[@annlander]

Great video and reminds me of the spelling of Wedgwood. No 'e' between the 'g' and the second 'w'.

[@OldUKAds]

Where's that's secret entrance again Jeff? I can't hear you over all the many cars and the road noise going past the secret entrance...

[@michaelhawkins3511]

Hey from Gatwick airport to Brighton on the weekend cost 5.90 on network rail Thameslink only

[@KailashWaughray]

Geoff- Was rewatching your visit to DLR Beckton depot when they were showcasing the first new DLR stock train. Back then, they were unsure about new PA's. Seems like some of your viewers petitioned for you to become the DLR voice (including me!). Any news ?

[@jamesspear9711]

I still think there are three e's in Edgware Roade.

[@michaellennon873]

Does the high level sign at the Bakerloo station read EDCWARE (5:12 minutes into video)?

[@Harry_Hippie]

lol I just notice that too! Initially, I thought the letters were etched in the tiles but maybe they are just stickers and part of the ‘G’ has fallen off.

[@joermnyc]

If you can zoom in there’s a tiny horizontal line on the letter, it is a G… but just barely!

[@jamesabbott5242]

Awesome Video Geoff 😄😄

[@allanfstone]

From memory, the red LEDs are deliberate to handle visibility issues in the event of a low sun setting along the platforms and obscuring the orange displays with the glare. I don’t think it’s anything to do with age of displays.

[@fumthings]

while red leds were the first kind manufactured, they were also very dim, those signs would be new, brighter red leds, and are unlikely to be older as Geoff suggested.

[@AlfaRomeo128]

why didn’t you ask or interview the staff about that entrance Gate not opening / on time in the video for a bonus feature of the station in the video

[@kazzam8514]

I live just across the road from here and unfortunately that side (secret) entrance/exit hasn’t opened in a really long time Geoff, not sure why not. Passenger numbers maybe or the fact it doesn’t really lead to anywhere unless you want to get the number 18 bus

[@simonbennett9687]

Did you not see any pigeons riding the trains? Edgware Road D&C is the first place I ever saw that happening.

[@geofftech2]

ha! i didn't, i did look out for pigeons but none happened! i often see it at Hammersmith too on the H&C

[@Rogue136]

I just had an idea for a Tube challenge. I think it might be evil... Tap in or out of every enterance (independant gatelines) of every station as fast as you can. You cannot tap back into a station after you just tapped out at a different entrance.

[@backwashjoe7864]

I don’t understand the challenge. Can you give an example of this tapping sequence?

[@Rogue136]

@@backwashjoe7864 think of it as a traditional tube challenge but the number of times you need to visit a station is multiplied by the number of individual entrances or gate lines. So if you have a station like Edgware Road with two entrances, both with independent gate lines, you need to pass through each gate line. That means you would have to visit the station twice. With stations like Edgware Road it's complicated by one gate line being intermittently open. Like i said, it might be an evil if not impossible idea.

[@kr46428]

As I recall the easternmost entrance to Aldgate East, right by the Isaac Rosenberg plaque, is similarly kept closed most of the time. I'm not actually certain if TfL publish opening hours for specific gates or not, so I imagine a challenge like this would take quite a lot of in-person research and a bit of luck.

[@bikerpaul68]

I haven't lived in the UK since 1987. A few years ago I flew to Heathrow, took the Express to Paddington, and got onto the Circle Line to go to Euston Square for my train to Wigan. I was very annoyed when I found you now have to change at Edgware Road. If it's not a Circle anymore, it shouldn't be called the Circle Line. Spiral Line more like. 😠

[@fosterfuchs]

I would've taken the Piccadilly Line all the way to King's Cross, and walked the rest of the way.

[@bikerpaul68]

@@fosterfuchs That would certainly have been cheaper, but I had a reservation on a specific train to Wigan, so I needed to get to Euston quickly!

[@MTGP1525]

The Bakerloo line doesn't have a connecter blob with the Circle, District & Hammersmith & City Line.

[@EugeneMurray-z1b]

That Pic is Willesden Green!

[@FamilyOfEyles]

There's two e's in Tupperware as well!!

[@jonistan9268]

So they put up a screen that shows the departure board filmed by a camera. Very interesting choice, especially since, you know, you could just put up a screen that shows the departures.

[@darenlucas7886]

Much cheaper to put a screen showing a feed of a station CCTV camera which itself was installed when the board in the booking hall area was installed. Those dot matrix displays are not cheap when compared to a simple monitor.

[@trueriver1950]

Either that or there were issues running a new cable back to the server computer that drives the dot matrix displays

[@jonistan9268]

@@darenlucas7886 If a dot matrix display is way more expensive than a simple monitor, why not use said monitor to display the departures? The camera isn't free either.

[@abdulkadirhamza4728]

Am a tourist staying near shadwell and want to go to Excel for an event for the next 3 days and also into central london when am done with Excel what the best ticket if i dont have an oyster card

[@Turboaviation4357]

I see this as soon as I plan to go to Edgware Road😂

[@Jimyjames73]

Did any one open that Secret Entrance in the end??? 🤔🚂🚂🚂

[@bizmen81]

Maybe do end of the line for National Rail next?

[@garethhiley6388]

But did the side entrance open?!! I need closure..........

[@maryapatterson]

Get your coat!😂

[@caw25sha]

Edgeware is a clothing brand started by that bloke from U2. One of the other members has a range of dog food.

[@MargaretUK]

😆😆 Bone shaped by any chance?

[@Wildcard71]

Shouldn't it be Edgewear?

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@@Wildcard71No, "ware" is the word for products made of a given material or by a given person.

[@davidhamm7909]

Larry Mullen Jr dog food?

[@antonydennett5938]

Brilliant video as always Geoff.

[@roderickmain9697]

I no longer live near Oxford and I'm not at Uni in Colchester anymore, but when I was, i'd take the train to Paddington, get on the circle via Edgware Road to Liverpool Street. Seems like I cant do that anymore without changing trains....thats if I wanted to.

[@KEITHMU]

You would get on the train via Circle/Hammersmith and City Platforms rather than the District/Circle one and it would take you direct from Paddington to Liverpool Street.

[@caw25sha]

You'd use the CrossLizPurple line now.

[@katrinabryce]

You use the Hammersmith & City Line platforms rather than the District Line platforms now, or the Elizabeth Line. The District Line platforms have got a lot quieter since that happened. To get to the Hammersmith & City Line platforms, you now have to go out of the station and go back in the side entrance, you can't use the same footbridge anymore that you can use to change platforms on the GWR lines.

[@jonathanbott87]

What is the benefit of closing an entrance (other than event capacity entrances)? Does it save on staffing?

[@TheDarq0n]

this one is always a weird one! Always confuses me