I gotta say I appreciate the Meren Upping the Average Joey did, it's influenced how my Meren deck is played and I find that my deck has higher synergy and recovery speed because of it. Thanks Joey for the graveyard fun! :D
@andrewbosak89413 жыл бұрын
Joey is a man after my own heart! There's no better feeling than the comfort of knowing that even if all your creatures die, it's all part of the plan. Using graveyards and life as a resource is just so much fun.
@notlegaladvice3 жыл бұрын
Played standard, limited, vintage, and recently started with commander. Up to now, I wasn’t able to find a play style that I constantly craved to go back to. Thanks to you Joey, I finally discovered it, and it feels great! #necro4tw🔥
@goodymanc3 жыл бұрын
Joey is such a good person!
@JohnDoe-df7bl3 жыл бұрын
Bring Joey on game knights
@jonniehanzel17683 жыл бұрын
Haha I think it's not fair for Jimmy and Jose :)
@nharviala3 жыл бұрын
Always nice to get graveyard playstyle representation. Got my og Chainer deck, all your graveyards are belong to me!
@alexleblanc63646 ай бұрын
I think Joey needs to revisit this topic in 2024
@ErasmusHereticus3 жыл бұрын
I really like Joey's point about balancing reanimation targets and ways of reanimating them. I run a Rakdos Chainer deck, and finding the right amount of Animate Deads to put in can be tricky, and you absolutely need them because Chainer is really good at filling the yard, but needs a lot of help pulling stuff out. It's about cheating it out, not hardcasting an 8-drop.
@randalljohnson67873 жыл бұрын
This has been my favorite play style since my very first EDH deck, revolving around Ghave, using him as a sac outlet for cards like Yosei and kokusho, and a token generator as fodder for cards like victimize and dread return. The strat got out of hand when Mikaeus the Unhallowed hit the scene, letting Ghave remove those undying counters from Yosei when it came back to play from Mikaeus’ ability~
@Thimbrethil3 жыл бұрын
I agree with Joe. Resilience is also what sparked my love towards graveyard strategies. My friend had a deck that constantly killed all of my creatures on the board, and one day i though: "If they have to die, how can I bring them back, or benefit from this?" Basically Muldrotha and Gyrus are my forever love now
@royalcollectables3 жыл бұрын
Have you guys thought about playing against the command zone?
@YagamiSage3 жыл бұрын
Yes that would be awesome 😊😃
@mfitkin3 жыл бұрын
I don’t normally comment on the dad puns but damn today was fire
@ld_raine42472 жыл бұрын
The whole, "cheating by the rules" thing really spoke to me. I had a B/W/G dredge deck back when Griselbrand was standard legal.... Throwing reanimation effects with flashback into the yard with 100% Angus beef while at the same time keeping the lands in your hand.... Phew, good times!
@braddtheodd33903 жыл бұрын
Joey's Playstyle is not something I tend to try But I love how he's so passionate about it :v
@heavenbot3 жыл бұрын
Golgari represent!! That second hand next to your library won't cast itself!
@nanoacido51743 жыл бұрын
I like Joey's style
@brendant.44933 жыл бұрын
Joey has been waiting for this day his entire magic career.
Joey, you should look into Chainer Dementia Master. Graveyard things but can access your opponents too 😁
@dreddbolt3 жыл бұрын
Squee (the Immortal) for mono-red junkyard brew, and Rona (Disciple of Gix) for a Dimir junkyard brew. Both are pretty dang fun. Rona recurring The Eldest Reborn over and over is some kind of hilarious, and seeing Squee run a ramshackle recycling plant just warms my heart as it sets the rest of the world on fire.
@PawzBrownMTG3 жыл бұрын
I really love the old dad jokes you guys are so awesome
@dungeonmechanic89503 жыл бұрын
I feel this! Feldon is my favorite deck
@crovax13753 жыл бұрын
Graveyard strategies are definitely my favorite, but I have to say that landfall decks are definitely a close second
@danacoleman40073 жыл бұрын
I'm really really like this series!
@jimforest48113 жыл бұрын
Joey is amazing!
@crawdaddy20043 жыл бұрын
Also, funniest thing I ever saw another Muldrotha player do was play Bojuka Bog when I had an enchantment that says all targets are chosen randomly...he exiled his own graveyard - he still won, too. 😂
@merakimagic77643 жыл бұрын
Playing a graveyard deck with recursion is like being able to look at what you want to cast, as long as there is stuff in the yard.
@deadNdivine123 жыл бұрын
After watching this and Matt's video makes me think about what I like to do in magic... Hmm.
@NightfallTH3 жыл бұрын
Super interesting.
@IncrediPaulAZ3 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness for bojuka bog 😁. O and Ashiok
@andrewpaul8732 Жыл бұрын
With zulaport cutthroat something i noticed is that people know how dangerous he is and how easy it is to go infinate and people will spend an exile to get rid of him so i put blood artist in there as well. Samer thing goes for demons diciple and plaguecrafter. Always helps to have one in hand if the one in rotation gets the boot
@huntergrant65203 жыл бұрын
Chainer, dementia master is my favorite deck. My strategies with that deck are down right machiavellian.
@redleader29353 жыл бұрын
I have a Challenge the stats for you. Dragon Wings doesn't see enough play in Jhoira of the Ghitu decks. For a commander that wants to cheat out big creatures like Eldrazi titans and Blightsteel Colossus. This version of Jhoira can clean out your for two mana per card. That can eat your hand up quickly. The fact that Dragon Wings as cycling, means it's ability to be cycled as a card replacement and also give you the ability to have one of your big creatures of 6 mana value or more gain flying and have haste from suspend. This is a sneaky way to give aviation for a possible player ending attacks.
@kirkheisterkamp69883 жыл бұрын
I wish White had more mass styles of recursion. They have resurrection and a couple of other good spells for reviving *one* creature, but there are few to none that revive more than one (Reveillark is the only one I can think of and it has restrictions)
@chipfantini36402 жыл бұрын
I got into graveyard decks when I saw my buddy play legacy manaless dredge and the rest is history
@stephenball21083 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Joey play a Lurrus deck (Lurrus as commander, not companion). I have a theory that Lurrus is the most straight up powerful Orzhov commander, been testing for a few months.
@ebond_gaming1376 Жыл бұрын
I would really love to see joeys take on muldrotha
@joshrobinson24092 жыл бұрын
I have a reanimator deck lead by varolz the scar striped and I love it so much
@snowdazeTV3 жыл бұрын
I was surprised I didn't hear my reasons as one of the reasons tbh. I love using the GY because I'm overly sentimental with my cards. I love every one of my cards and want to reuse them throughout a game. I also get sad when someone immediately counters or removes the dude I've been working up to. Reanimation and recursion lets me get my stuff out repeatedly and I love it.
@andrewpaul8732 Жыл бұрын
cards like tutors and entomb..they're great yes undeniably powerful but i feel like when i use them i either get what i wanted and win in one turn or i paint a target on my head. I prefer card draw and play with what i have. will i control the board and take their sacrificed creatures for my own, will i ping them with zulaport or will gary come out and give me 70 life and wipe the table. every game is a little different and thats what i love about graveyard decks (at least the way i build them) i always have a different combo and my opponants never know where im going with it.
@vasylpark21493 жыл бұрын
As an Orzhov player I fully agree. Graveyard recursion, draining your opponents life away and gaining it all making them sacrifice stuff, sacrificing to gain knowledge, sacrificing for mana. using ghosts and zombies to torment my opponents I love it all. too bad there isn't much ramp in black or white. WotC fix white in commander please.
@vasylpark21493 жыл бұрын
@@marvin5342 that's definitely green. Black has some really good ramp. But green has the best. Cabal stronghold, cabal coffers, and rituals are good ramp.
@vasylpark21493 жыл бұрын
@@marvin5342 white needs some better ramp and card draw. Dawn of hope and smothering tithe are a good start. Also cabal coffers and urborg are really expensive and hard to justify for people on a budget. There should be cheaper options for players. I think black should have the cabal and ritual type ramp. The more black you have the more mana you can create, or the more you sacrifice the more you can create. Some decks I really can't run rituals or nikana, I have a Lurrus of the dream den that runs a crypt ghast because the theme of the deck is extort.
@robsta65433 жыл бұрын
It is also my favorite strategy
@BrunoNunes833 жыл бұрын
rakdos chainer reanimation decks need an upping the average!
@darkrexkigntstone87733 жыл бұрын
Can I play Weathered Runestone against Joey Then? I run five pieces of grave hate in my zombie deck. Great video, guys.
@auroralee3 жыл бұрын
This is honestly the video where I realized my commander playstyle is pretty much "I like to cheat *legally* in Magic"... Like all my decks are doing something that involves cards interacting in ways not really intended by the designers for absolutely ridiculous effects.
@Squee_666_92 жыл бұрын
We need spells to give your own graveyard hexproof.. or unable to be exiled.
@rachelmcrachel65893 жыл бұрын
I really dig graveyard strats but in White too lmao nobody sees it coming for some reason Also, what card is shown on 12:22?
@brianmellema1093 жыл бұрын
I thought you had a Teysa deck? I don't see it in the deck lists.
@scottcampbell95153 жыл бұрын
Matt's joke was not a chef's kiss. It was a Sunkist.
@andrewpaul8732 Жыл бұрын
I use conrad in my chainer deck and a last resort to win with i think mindclamp (players lose a life when a card leaves the battlefield i havent played ina while sorry) if i cant get the W with gary or kukoshu conrad is always there for an easy 1 turn win
@Kaisingsens3 жыл бұрын
Not a single mention of my boy Scarab God?
@thebrickinthewall98385 ай бұрын
Minmeoplasm is my main deck still. Even just didn work on it last night. Its disgusting and im not really sorry but i still have a play group.
@vanessaeve9253 жыл бұрын
I have a new deck idea...
@mikeyHustle3 жыл бұрын
Me: Cheating cards out or repeatedly getting them back after they're destroyed makes Magic less fun. Joey: *presumably faints*
@stephenwalker50613 жыл бұрын
No Gitrog??? What???
@plain66773 жыл бұрын
Why not playing grim tutor instead or in addition to demonic tutor in your Yennett deck? Scroll rack is also perfect since it got reprinted
@derekjefferson64855 ай бұрын
Starting to think aristocrats and recursion is also my style
@brianokafor97483 жыл бұрын
So basically golgari lol 😆
@andrewdodd34083 жыл бұрын
Mimeoplasm deck, $3800+ and Lands for it are $2200+ of it 😮😮
@Thimbrethil3 жыл бұрын
Well, thats the advantage of playing for years and years.
@andrewdodd34083 жыл бұрын
@@Thimbrethil I've been playing since Ice Age/4th Ed, even I don't have any commander decks that expensive.
@xXCigarXx2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewdodd3408 depends on how much income you have and how much time you actually spend with the hobby. I know people who have played for 10 years and have 2 decks....and I know people who have played for one year and have several 5000 count boxes of commons and uncommons.
@andrewdodd34082 жыл бұрын
@@xXCigarXx I've been playing since 4th ed, but even then I've never thrown huge amounts of money at it because unfortunately I don't just have a cardboard addiction but also a plastic and resin addiction. Yes I'm the living embodiment of Men don't grow up but their toys get more expensive. 🤣😂🤣😂
@wadd2752 жыл бұрын
bajuka bog
@crawdaddy20043 жыл бұрын
The days that Muldrotha was about grinding value to win are so far behind us. Muldrotha is just a combo deck. 😂 However, it’s possible I’m just referring to my deck.
@diggerdog92053 жыл бұрын
What's the combo
@crawdaddy20043 жыл бұрын
@@diggerdog9205 Dredge to Lab Man or Jace. Dakmoor Salvage, Gitrog, discard outlet plus Dread Return or whatever. It can go off turn 1 with the absolute nut draw.
@OfficialBarbarose3 жыл бұрын
"I like cheating, but legally" ok then go out with me 🥴 (This is a joke btw, I don't condone cheating in a relationship)
@damonlouis65363 жыл бұрын
Can't be signature when it's over represented. Can't be style when it's standard. Playing grave hate is my style, making grave players moan is my signature.