U-DRAGS RACE: BMW M2 vs. Toyota GR Supra | Acceleration, Quarter Mile, Handling & More

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@edmundscars
@edmundscars 6 ай бұрын
Even though these two cost a surprisingly similar amount (if you want a manual), there is an obvious gap in performance. Which would you rather have? Let us know in the comments below! Edit: The tires on the GR Supra were actually Michelin Pilot Super Sport 255/35 R19 f, 275/35 R19 r. Thank you for the feedback!
@whitemtl370
@whitemtl370 6 ай бұрын
345/25/R21 rear tires?…. Copy paste from a corvette Z06? Audio: “the Supra is on Michelin pilot super sports” Text: Michelin pilot sport 4 s Did the editor skip this video lol?
@Sidewinder5
@Sidewinder5 6 ай бұрын
@Edmundscar, not sure if you guys can get this done, but I'd want to see a 992.1 turbo vs 991.2 Turbo s . Both have around 500+ hp.
@Hawkeye-zp8bv
@Hawkeye-zp8bv 6 ай бұрын
You know that one dangling hair on Kurt's head drove him nuts after watching the video back.
@62Sketch
@62Sketch 6 ай бұрын
I don't think there's really much gap in performance at all. Sure the M2 wins in a flat out drag race, but in every track comparison I've seen the Supra beats out the M2. Are you buying either one of these cars for the drag racing experience?
@thewonderfulland6207
@thewonderfulland6207 6 ай бұрын
The m2 because it is only a detune of m4/m3 version, so i can easily have it 510 hp with simple tune and no upgrade needed
@ronanomahony4972
@ronanomahony4972 6 ай бұрын
Jonathan! @edmundscars Ronan here ....the previous owner of your M Coupe when I was in SF, now down in LA also. So glad you're still enjoying her, and she looks in great condition....thank you for taking care of her. Made my day to see the appearance in the video, loved that!
@iluvcakes19
@iluvcakes19 6 ай бұрын
Looked like South Bay to me
@Sickwitit18
@Sickwitit18 6 ай бұрын
Why did you get rid of it? Went for a more visually pleasing car? 😂
@jonathanelfalan4866
@jonathanelfalan4866 6 ай бұрын
Ronan! Yes, the ol girl is doing well. I'm hoping she'll even get to do a Udrag of her own one of these days (fingers crossed!). Thanks for watching!
@travisfandrich
@travisfandrich 6 ай бұрын
This should be the m240i vs Supra
@seannomoney20
@seannomoney20 6 ай бұрын
the 2 series is too heavy for that and it's a known fact the supra is underrated
@Bimmer_Bill
@Bimmer_Bill 6 ай бұрын
@@seannomoney20both are underrated. Same engine. Although there’s speculation that bmw doesn’t give Toyota the best B58’s as the 400 lb Supra should be much faster.
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 6 ай бұрын
@@Bimmer_Bill I think performance wise the M240 would be more even, though I dont think it comes in a manual and is quite a bit less money than the GR Supra. Not sure how underrated BMW makes their B58. but I think their S58 is even more so being it easily makes 50+hp and torque more in the M3/4 versus this M2 (and even those are said to be underrated).
@seannomoney20
@seannomoney20 6 ай бұрын
@@Bimmer_Bill Toyota has an arguably better b58 at least on reliability. and I didn't think about it until after I made the comment that the m2 is also probably underrated.
@layne4376
@layne4376 6 ай бұрын
@@ALMX5DP M240 equally equipped is the same price as the Supra. Although it will have AWD for the launch, it is 500+ lbs heavier than the Supra. The Supra will beat it easily in the skidpad and on a roll. Even the trap speed is telling.
@electrikoptik
@electrikoptik 6 ай бұрын
@ 0:40 tire/wheel spec is incorrect, it should be FR 255/35/19 and RR 275/35/19
@LavshBeatsTMlavishbeats
@LavshBeatsTMlavishbeats 6 ай бұрын
lol 345 on the rear 😂 it’s not a Bugatti
@FlyinFinchMotorsports
@FlyinFinchMotorsports 6 ай бұрын
Those are the C8 Corvette Z06 tires. Not a Bugatti
@thesvenssons
@thesvenssons 6 ай бұрын
Yeah I saw this and said to myself “that’s like Viper tires!”
@LavshBeatsTMlavishbeats
@LavshBeatsTMlavishbeats 6 ай бұрын
@@FlyinFinchMotorsports hyperbole
@danziger69
@danziger69 6 ай бұрын
345s are for Corvettes...
@pinimodulo
@pinimodulo 12 күн бұрын
I am surpirsed no one commented on the fact that the cornering of the supra was surprisingly good, at the level of McLaren and Porsches and decimating the BMW?
@M2atom
@M2atom 6 ай бұрын
Once the M2 is in third gear, its overboost kicks in and it will pull like a madman as you saw in this video. The S58 is no joke. Hagerty has another video where the M2 destroys the lineup there, including a Lotus, Supra and the Dark Horse so not sure why you didn’t have the M240 here instead that would’ve been a closer matchup.
@Nimasis
@Nimasis 6 ай бұрын
I dont think it overboosts in the 3rd gear...from my short ownership it feels like power/boost is limited in 1st and 2nd gear to put the power down. (even with traction control fully off) and I say that because 1 & 2 gear doesn't feel like the advertised 450 hp unless launch control is activated
@M2atom
@M2atom 6 ай бұрын
@@Nimasis it does trust me. Also dyno is over 500 at the crank so it’s more like 470-480ish . It’s not “detuned”😎
@Nimasis
@Nimasis 6 ай бұрын
@@M2atom Nice thats good to know. Idk for some reason 1/2 gear feels a bit underwhelming but at hwy speeds it pulls hard
@M2atom
@M2atom 6 ай бұрын
@@Nimasis using at least 91 octane?
@Nimasis
@Nimasis 6 ай бұрын
@@M2atom yup 94
@terremoto_cumbias
@terremoto_cumbias 6 ай бұрын
These are such great videos. Not too long, little fluff, mostly business. Also demonstrates more of the cars performance than just drag race or a hot lap. Thanks and keep it up Edmunds!
@G82Watts
@G82Watts 6 ай бұрын
The s58 is just a monster. Bmw made a masterpiece. Simple bolt ons and its a low 10s car to the quarter mile.
@AntilleanConfederation
@AntilleanConfederation 6 ай бұрын
Then it’s another 2 miles to the junkyard after that.
@G82Watts
@G82Watts 6 ай бұрын
@@AntilleanConfederation might wanna check bmws reliability rating these days. The b58 and s58 are extremely capable. Bimmerpost which is a site that is all bmw owners never report an engine blowing up or even oil leaks with the new G8x platform
@MrJsevo29
@MrJsevo29 6 ай бұрын
This isn't 2012 dude. The s58 can run 10s all day with no issues. I know because i have a 2022 and have had zero issues. ​@AntilleanConfederation
@AntilleanConfederation
@AntilleanConfederation 6 ай бұрын
@@MrJsevo29 sure man. Make sure you keep an eye on that dip stick. Oppppsssss…
@MrJsevo29
@MrJsevo29 6 ай бұрын
@@AntilleanConfederation you probably still believe in the tooth fairy too huh boomer
@alexbalak7558
@alexbalak7558 Ай бұрын
Your tests are good, it shows not only drag race but the way back. It's a great idea ! 👍
@ezm311
@ezm311 6 ай бұрын
Oh wow, i didnt realize the resemblance between the mk5 Supra and Z3 M coupe, nice
@SaintMecha
@SaintMecha 6 ай бұрын
BMW vs BMW. Nice
@Abercrombemonkey
@Abercrombemonkey 5 ай бұрын
Go smell the fruit cup @6:10
@DomWheeler-lg2xb
@DomWheeler-lg2xb 5 ай бұрын
*Laughs in 2019
@klowe007
@klowe007 4 ай бұрын
100%
@MsDeathangel956
@MsDeathangel956 5 ай бұрын
First time watching a video from this channel, and i gotta say, these U-Drag race is pretty interesting to watch, much more entertaining then a standard drag race!
@jaydaley1294
@jaydaley1294 6 ай бұрын
I’m a current owner of the exact spec M2 driven here and I can attest to its wild side but man that Supra showed up well. If the rumours are true and they get the S58 in the Supra with its lighter weight, it’ll be a monster.
@DimeBag666666
@DimeBag666666 Ай бұрын
rumors? aftermarket or future stock?
@avishkarsingh744
@avishkarsingh744 Ай бұрын
If they do that then they might as well remove the Toyota badge and stick on a BMW badge.
@arymonem
@arymonem 6 ай бұрын
Both amazing cars! Can’t go wrong with either one.
@justme307
@justme307 6 ай бұрын
Big HP difference between. Makes sense the M2 won.
@shoe3k
@shoe3k 6 ай бұрын
The manual in the M2 is a disservice unfortunately. It's not good, but the auto zf8 gearing is better matched to the s58. The car is even faster with the auto.
@marwood9421
@marwood9421 Ай бұрын
94hp but the M2 is around 600lbs heavier.
@gdsnake98
@gdsnake98 6 ай бұрын
Giulia Quadrifoglio vs M2 or M3 would be an interesting one to see how the Alfa has aged compared to the comp.
@joecool9739
@joecool9739 6 ай бұрын
I mean its a relatively recent car, having only gone on sale in 2016 Aside from that it has been refreshed inside and out as of last year, with matrix LED lights and new infotainment systems and such Its literally not aged at all Hell, the current Mustang is actually riding the same platform as the Mustang that came out in 2014...and it lacks absolutely nothing Theres nothing in a 2024 Mustang Dark Horse or a 2024 Alfa-Romeo Giulia that would make them "dated" when compared to the competition
@gdsnake98
@gdsnake98 6 ай бұрын
@@joecool9739 Thanks for the AI response. I know. I own a QV and it was ahead of its time. 8 years though is some time and ever since the competition has had a new generation and a mid cycle refresh release. It would be a good and entertaining race to see how they stack up. Especially on the U-drag.
@joecool9739
@joecool9739 6 ай бұрын
@@gdsnake98 I just told you that the Giulia recieved a mid-cycle refresh
@adriaanhefer5232
@adriaanhefer5232 6 ай бұрын
The tyre size on the Supra doesn’t seem right…I mean 345 rears??
@BigInjun05
@BigInjun05 6 ай бұрын
Came here to say the same. Should be 255 and 275
@voodoodiecast
@voodoodiecast 6 ай бұрын
Right? The rears are 275 not sure about the front probably 245. Editors thinking this was a Viper😂
@ruki7602
@ruki7602 6 ай бұрын
Yes would say the same 345 on the supra 😂
@Piter464646
@Piter464646 6 ай бұрын
And r19 all around, not 20 and 21 ;)
@acidnut
@acidnut 6 ай бұрын
These are the tire and wheel specs for the C8 Corvette Z06, they didn't edit this one out.
@TomShirazi
@TomShirazi 6 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to see RS3 vs. M2.
@madrx2
@madrx2 6 ай бұрын
m2 Will destroy it with the same rubber.
@TomShirazi
@TomShirazi 6 ай бұрын
@madrx2 M2 is definitely faster, but it would be fun to see.
@Sumodeadliftsarefake69
@Sumodeadliftsarefake69 6 ай бұрын
No it wouldn’t
@madrx2
@madrx2 6 ай бұрын
@@TomShirazi agree mate the awd of the rs3 could really help out here
@TomShirazi
@TomShirazi 6 ай бұрын
@@madrx2 interestingly enough, the new RS3 broke the M2 Nurburgring lap record by over 7 seconds. M2 definitely has more power, but between the all wheel drive, launch control, and automatic transmission, RS3 should do much better than Supra in a U-Drags race. It will be a fun race to watch regardless of who wins.
@SSS-mp8th
@SSS-mp8th 6 ай бұрын
Test drove an M2 and own a Supra and the performance was just to similar to change (plus looks). There is always a JB4 to even things out.
@hpickettz34
@hpickettz34 6 ай бұрын
You can jb4 the m2 also.
@SSS-mp8th
@SSS-mp8th 6 ай бұрын
@@hpickettz34 True but getting the M2 will cost me $20k (supra is paid off) JB4 a lot less.
@bonusb2924
@bonusb2924 6 ай бұрын
I loved the looks of the Supra but absolutely hated sitting in the cabin. I went with a M6 ZL1
@valeriyGennadyevich
@valeriyGennadyevich 6 ай бұрын
its is super simple decision for me that absolutely worth extra $.... s58 is waay much more powerful than b58 + it is way nicer to say to a lady that you are driving a BMW ///M vs that your car is toyota (even though it is bmw inside).
@Sickwitit18
@Sickwitit18 6 ай бұрын
​@@valeriyGennadyevichif the M2 wasn't so ugly it'd be an easier decision
@InvestBetter.
@InvestBetter. Ай бұрын
From what I saw, the cars are pretty much the same, until 100 MPH, where the extra power of the Bimmer pulls away. Not sure where they are getting these price numbers, but a GR Supra, for 2025, starts at $56k, according to Toyota's website. A Premium 3.0 is still under $60k
@joelpeterson2074
@joelpeterson2074 6 ай бұрын
I think I'm the only person that loves the M2, but considering these models are priced about the same, I don't see how I could NOT get the M car. You even get a useable back seat, crazy cool little car.
@mrfxmuc2493
@mrfxmuc2493 6 ай бұрын
The M2 is much more expensive!
@Michaelrack94
@Michaelrack94 6 ай бұрын
Wrong ,M2 $63,200 vs Supra anniversary $65,275
@joelpeterson2074
@joelpeterson2074 6 ай бұрын
@@mrfxmuc2493 These specific trims are very similarly priced.
@19hundoc47
@19hundoc47 6 ай бұрын
Some people don’t want a backseat. Not everyone wants what you want. Imagine that
@joelpeterson2074
@joelpeterson2074 6 ай бұрын
@@19hundoc47 Please go back and reread what I said and point out where I told anyone to do anything.
@moescolla
@moescolla 6 ай бұрын
Auto ZF trans really changes things up in these cars
@Freddy_Confetti
@Freddy_Confetti 6 ай бұрын
They allowed to have a 45th anniversary when they didn’t make the car for 15 years?
@moescolla
@moescolla 6 ай бұрын
I believe you guys mixed up the C8 Z06 tire size with the Supra 345 rear 275 front 😮
@jp23x
@jp23x 6 ай бұрын
Such a travesty that bmw doesn't put a manual in the m240
@1laimmiss
@1laimmiss 6 ай бұрын
Should put one in the xi and I 240
@braddevendorf9901
@braddevendorf9901 6 ай бұрын
Yep, that is why I sold my M240ix. Great car, but a manual transmission would greatly improve it's personality and enjoyment. I have a 2023 Camaro ZL1 now. Loads of personality and so much fun.
@jp23x
@jp23x 6 ай бұрын
@@braddevendorf9901 how does the power compare not taking transmission into consideration? an SS would be more comparable to an m240 though
@braddevendorf9901
@braddevendorf9901 6 ай бұрын
@@jp23x I had awhile back a 2017 2SS with mag ride and dual mode exhaust and it was a great car. The M240ix was very quick off the line with AWD. But the 2SS is faster overall with the big V8 and the alpha chassis is a suburb so it handles very well. I originally sold my 2022 M240ix when I ordered a 2023 2SS 1LE with a 6spd. That car was built in Jan 2023 but sat in a lot in Detroit waiting six months for shipping. I did not like that situation and got impatient. A 2023 ZL1 6spd became available that the guy who ordered in backed out, so I splurged and got the ZL1. It was $18k more, but such a special car. The power is no comparison with the supercharger, it is strong at all rpms. These types of cars (V8 manual transmissions) are going a way; so get them while you can.
@ToneysReviews
@ToneysReviews 5 ай бұрын
@@jp23xThe m240i will dog walk it off the line. The downfall to the m240i is that it is either electronically locked to 130 or 155 depending the package. Thus, in a quarter mile the RPMs are killed. However, if you unlock the m240i it is the fast bmw car ever made. There is a m240i that runs the quarter mile in 7.96.
@vigorosoPIMPJr
@vigorosoPIMPJr 5 ай бұрын
Love the Supra I’d love to see an ECU tuned Supra with the same HP numbers as the M2
@xcloud777
@xcloud777 27 күн бұрын
This drag and loop race was so fun and car suspension matters and will show how suspension conjunction’s with the power.
@mogulme6190
@mogulme6190 6 ай бұрын
I’m so glad the m2 won fairly convincingly…I’ve seen way too many people saying the Supra is basically as fast as
@rwac07
@rwac07 6 ай бұрын
The 2021+ Supra is faster than the F series M2c/3/4, not G
@mogulme6190
@mogulme6190 6 ай бұрын
@@rwac07 no it is not 😂
@rwac07
@rwac07 6 ай бұрын
@@mogulme6190 I’ve had an F82, F80 M3C and the 22 Supra. I know through experience. There’s a video on Samcarlegion’s channel too if you refuse to believe it
@Jotomoz
@Jotomoz 6 ай бұрын
Similar cost comparison is good you see what extra cost gets you or what's over valued.
@Fllangees
@Fllangees Ай бұрын
Can someone explain to me why turning vsc off is better when drag racing, because from a roll I get it but when I hit a launch from a dig I just spin tires, the car is automatic btw
@MYMOUNTAIN_122
@MYMOUNTAIN_122 6 ай бұрын
Still thought for a B58 v S58 it's pretty good, having driven both I'd pick the supra, easier of the two as a daily.
@Abercrombemonkey
@Abercrombemonkey 2 ай бұрын
easier as a daily? its smaller interior, no back seats, meanwhile m2 has a bigger trunk, 2 small backseat, better performance. Make it make sense dog
@nf1369
@nf1369 6 ай бұрын
Great race! I love both of these cars, but I lean to the GR Supra. :)
@carlos64030
@carlos64030 6 ай бұрын
The tire sizes listed here for the Supra are: 275/30/20 for the front and 345/25/21 on the rear. There's no freakin' way that Supra has that wide of a tire on the rear! Anyhoooo, if I had to choose between these two cars, I guess I'd go with the Bimmer because I like it's styling a little more than the Supra's.
@MohdSaud-bz9tw
@MohdSaud-bz9tw 6 ай бұрын
What was the purpose of this race.The result was very much obvious and it cannot be changed until or unless the driver really messed it in m2 .M2 is in different segment in sports car category THE RACE Should be between supra and m240i or m340i
@vanderz1012
@vanderz1012 5 ай бұрын
Gotta hand it to the Supra. For having no launch control and less power, it stood with the M2 pretty well.
@weroliera
@weroliera 6 ай бұрын
The styling of the Japanese is just epic in my eyes. But I have always been a jdm fan.
@joetz1
@joetz1 6 ай бұрын
It’s a little too overwrought for me But I do like the car and it does seem (according to consumer reports data) to be super reliable
@AntilleanConfederation
@AntilleanConfederation 6 ай бұрын
It’s a bmw bro. Lmaooo. The GR86 is Japanese and looks way better.
@vargasaidan7366
@vargasaidan7366 6 ай бұрын
@@AntilleanConfederation the body was styled by japanese designers as well. his name is Nobou Nakamura. lmao
@kingvega666
@kingvega666 5 ай бұрын
@@AntilleanConfederationgr86 is slow af
@AntilleanConfederation
@AntilleanConfederation 5 ай бұрын
@@kingvega666 yet fun and engaging. If speed is all you care about then I got news flash for you, fighter pilots are the fastest people on the planet. You’ll never be as fast. 🫵🏼🥲
@DarrylMoore-v6k
@DarrylMoore-v6k 6 ай бұрын
This is the best car comparison format
@kyulee2758
@kyulee2758 6 ай бұрын
@ 0:40 Supra has 345 rear tires?
@moflyboyblanquito541
@moflyboyblanquito541 6 ай бұрын
Keep em coming love these races
@Nick-hz2kl
@Nick-hz2kl 6 ай бұрын
I have a GR Supra premium . This video makes me want the M2 even more .
@bakedzizi
@bakedzizi 6 ай бұрын
I want to see z4 m40i vs supra
@HouseOfCars954
@HouseOfCars954 6 ай бұрын
We need to see a M240i vs M2 vid.
@ToneysReviews
@ToneysReviews 5 ай бұрын
They won’t do it. The m240i is a much better car. Furthermore, for modded cars the m240i holds the record for the fastest bmw ever made. 7.96 quarter mile
@Abercrombemonkey
@Abercrombemonkey 2 ай бұрын
@@ToneysReviews Sorry RK-Tune's Jordan has a g80 m3 in the 7 seconds mark as well. faster than 7.96, fastest BMW.
@ToneysReviews
@ToneysReviews 2 ай бұрын
@@Abercrombemonkey You do realize that the g80 m3 is Xdrive right? You also realize that the g42 m240i is Xdrive, right? You are comparing the m2 to m3 and they are not the same.
@ToneysReviews
@ToneysReviews Ай бұрын
@@Abercrombemonkey PS, there is 1500hp m240i that is currently the world's fastest bmw without a custom built from the ground up engine. it runs a quarter in 7.943
@Abercrombemonkey
@Abercrombemonkey Ай бұрын
@ToneysReviews bruhh just stop arguing. Rk-Tune's Jordan has the fastest beamer right now. S58 g80 doing the 1/4 in 7.87 secs @173mph. S55's would of been way faster too, if it had X-Drive. 😔
@alvaromolina1623
@alvaromolina1623 6 ай бұрын
Supra with an S58 would be incredible. My brother owns a 2022 Supra, and it's such a great car. BMW really knows their stuff, and make some awesome cars. Wish I could drive an M2 or an M4.
@wildwill74
@wildwill74 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for getting manuals.
@jaimatic23
@jaimatic23 5 ай бұрын
Why for slower results
@oemj7147
@oemj7147 5 ай бұрын
@@jaimatic23 No, for pure enjoyment. They know enthusiasts are more interested in manual cars.
@DevPack
@DevPack 6 ай бұрын
that was closer than expected
@norwegianblue2017
@norwegianblue2017 6 ай бұрын
Next up M2 vs Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing. Would be a great matchup. Caddy is faster 0-60, same quarter mile, but not as grippy as the M2 on the hairpin turn. Both manuals and cost about the same.
@johnwinner86
@johnwinner86 5 ай бұрын
Looks like you guys had fun
@JFlogerzi
@JFlogerzi 6 ай бұрын
I would take the regular Supra with ZF-8 speed please. Or hell a used C8 with z51 over either
@300CME
@300CME 6 ай бұрын
When BMW designed that 3.0 I-6 with collaboration with Toyota, BMW wasn’t gunna be that stupid to give their rival better performance. Toyota really should’ve came up with their own powertrain for the Supra.
@alicekim7351
@alicekim7351 6 ай бұрын
I don't think it's like that. It's just the M2 has the S58 and Supra has the B58. The Supra outperforms the Z4, so it's not BMW trying to make the Supra worse. If Toyota designed a new I6 for the Supra, it would have been another financial disaster like the MKIV and only appreciated after it's discontinued.
@hpickettz34
@hpickettz34 6 ай бұрын
Toyota is not gonna waste money on one car.
@kristian6622
@kristian6622 6 ай бұрын
Why did you not bring an m240i???
@christossakelariou
@christossakelariou 6 ай бұрын
They were going off price comparison. M2 and Supra are same price
@alicekim7351
@alicekim7351 6 ай бұрын
​@@christossakelariou They're comparing to a 45th anniversary edition, which is just overpriced decal and wing. The base Supra 3.0 is 55k USD and premium is 58k.
@JohnDoe-mx3rr
@JohnDoe-mx3rr 6 ай бұрын
U drag should had added a slalmom course. It way to power dependent. I like the Supra
@AX122
@AX122 6 ай бұрын
Has any car lost the drag and beat the return?
@Freddy_Confetti
@Freddy_Confetti 6 ай бұрын
Why are these guys crying about not having launch control in a manual car?
@Mrbobcat7
@Mrbobcat7 6 ай бұрын
Yeah I never heard of launch control in a manual. I think I would go with the auto though since I would mostly daily it.
@morsinimicis3930
@morsinimicis3930 6 ай бұрын
M240 is the better matchup, and it will beat the Supra from a dig because of AWD. Also, the B58 is definitely underrated and dyno’s at around 406hp not the 382hp that BMW claims. I have a 2024 M240 and it’s a fantastic daily and very fast!
@cleeson7493
@cleeson7493 5 ай бұрын
And yooo good call ain’t nobody actually own them act and sound like they know///////M2 all day//yall have fun in your whatever. Who knew we’d be in an era that bmw building Toyotas 😘
@Mrbobcat7
@Mrbobcat7 6 ай бұрын
I really like the M2 styling more and adding 20 more hp in 25 too. Although if they were to put that engine in the Supra it would be a beast. Heard they may offer x-drive for the M2 in 26 which would be awesome, but if it costs much more than the new one IDK.
@Born2Legit
@Born2Legit 6 ай бұрын
Believe it or not supra does have launch control but you have to have the car in manual, but this is only for the ones with the ZF-8 transmission to my knowledge
@greyfort1812
@greyfort1812 6 ай бұрын
great u drags. the best
@ctk4949
@ctk4949 6 ай бұрын
I think both of these can be had with autos, would like to see that. Just to take the driver equation out of it. Also the non 45th anniversary edition, is $60k, so that bmw is $15k more!!!!
@alicekim7351
@alicekim7351 6 ай бұрын
Also, the base 3.0 is 55k
@Veyronp87
@Veyronp87 3 ай бұрын
g87 has the carbon package which is an extra 10k. if you skip that its still a 10k difference
@warlok9
@warlok9 5 ай бұрын
Prices are not that similar. GR Supra 3.0 base is $54500 and the Premium is $58,550. The M2 starts @ $63k but if you want even basic luxuries like heated steering wheel and adaptive cruise you pay extra. And to unlock the full potential of the car you need to buy the "driver's performance package" for $2500 which basically unlocks the car's full potential and gives you a driving school ticket. Crazy thing is the Supra beats the M2 0-60 handily every time because of the weight difference. Also worth noting the Supra is a track beast, beating the M2 by over a second even with all the extra power on tap with the M2.
@northamptongiants
@northamptongiants 5 ай бұрын
I’d love to see them add an actual handling type part of the course. Small slalom or something like that. Something instead of a U-turn.
@2006chunming
@2006chunming 6 ай бұрын
345 r21 on the rears?
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 6 ай бұрын
Good race, I am not sure how Michelin structures their tires but given the Supra's cornering figure I think it's Super Sports helped it hook up and maintain some proximity during braking and the turn around.
@BrianBeckman
@BrianBeckman 6 ай бұрын
Super Sports are old tires. They are from 2014 - so several generations back at this point. While the Pilot Sport 4S is the latest offering from Michelin. For context, the Super Sports were factoring equipment on the C7 Corvette, while the Pilot Sport 4s is factory equipment on the C8 Z51. Also, the tire size was a mistake, Supras come with 255f/275r tires, not the 345mm claimed in the video (you can check TireRack to confirm). Given how old the tire design is, that 1.45g in the corner is insane. Moderns Sport Cup 2s would probably put it in the neighborhood of 1.60gs
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 6 ай бұрын
@@BrianBeckman yeah I still see the Super Sport ZP's for sale on TireRack so curious if any changes were made to it over the years. I did recognize the error in sizing but there is no denying that whatever the Supra is doing it is able to hook up well and corner superbly (though weight likely helps a bit in both respects).
@InclineDumbbell
@InclineDumbbell 6 ай бұрын
The PS4S is a better tire, I wouldn’t put too much thought into their “u-drag” test since it’s not very objective. The Supra is a little lighter and the M2’s ride height is too high from factory, lowered on KW V3 I have much less body roll
@TheOnlyTwitchR6
@TheOnlyTwitchR6 6 ай бұрын
The tire specs are WAY off. And the manual Supra doesn't have launch control? Thats weird. Didnt know that about it
@AcuraChannel
@AcuraChannel 6 ай бұрын
These are the best races vs straight line. You get a chance to see how well straight line and cornering performs on cars. If that Supra was fine with even horsepower and torque, it would have won. Supra still didn't do bad.
@Veyronp87
@Veyronp87 3 ай бұрын
auto vs auto would be an interesting race as well. feel like the 8 speed really takes the s58 to the next level. m2 is more nerfed with the manual when compared to Supra
@papaniiampah1801
@papaniiampah1801 5 ай бұрын
It's heartwarming anytime I see a new car with a manual transmission. SAVE THE MANUALS
@Abdi_Mohamed_
@Abdi_Mohamed_ 5 ай бұрын
345/25/21 tyres size on the supra is insane? Surely that can’t be right
@스캘퍼-p1y
@스캘퍼-p1y 6 ай бұрын
도요타 수프라 타이어 사이즈가 맞는 수치인가요?
@MVSky.
@MVSky. 5 ай бұрын
How much the M2 ? To the suora is it same price? 453 hp to 385 hp it a big difference what about let do it same power and see .
@karolmaciejewski340
@karolmaciejewski340 5 ай бұрын
It's very similar price actually
@bumpinjeep
@bumpinjeep 6 ай бұрын
Jesus, guys, come on now. 1. You dont prefer the gear ratios in the Supra because the ratios are identical to the M2. 2. The tire size on the Supra is completely wrong and is actually smaller, by some margin, to the M2. 3. The G87 M2 is only detuned on paper, the car dynos identically to the G80/82 M3/4 at 473 hp at the wheels. The reason why it spanked the Supra is it's simply a better performance car all around. The carbon package 6 speed weighs 3700 lbs with a full tank, its a little rocket.
@miketym2642
@miketym2642 6 ай бұрын
So sad that 3700 lbs is considered low weight.
@thinothsathiyalingam3417
@thinothsathiyalingam3417 6 ай бұрын
You should do the LCI M2 vs LCI M4 next, both manuals!!
@jaimatic23
@jaimatic23 5 ай бұрын
This is why i always said the ZF8 transmission complements the supra B58 so much
@davidhavard1908
@davidhavard1908 6 ай бұрын
I know this is t reasonable but I think y’all should get the C6 zr1 vs the c7 zr1. Just because you can .
@MphoLevis-wd8bw
@MphoLevis-wd8bw 5 ай бұрын
M2 G87 vs W205 C63S coupe please ❤😊or a BMW M4 G82 VS W205 C63S 😊😊
@skillz1855
@skillz1855 6 ай бұрын
2 different engines S vs B Stock what's the point
@andrewking1427
@andrewking1427 6 ай бұрын
I’d like to see some of the more “affordable” Porsche options. Cayman GTS 4.0 or cayman GT4
@masmainster
@masmainster 6 ай бұрын
2:40 I am so OCD, I so wanted to pull out that really long forehead hair out of that guys head.😅
@zivkourosevic3940
@zivkourosevic3940 4 ай бұрын
BMW motors, especially M. Clearly map for higher boost in 3rd +. You can tell the engine is not fully uncorked until 3rd. It’s the same for every BMW M
@leeedens9497
@leeedens9497 6 ай бұрын
Ok, a BWM Z4 hardtop (aka the Toyota Supra) vs the M2, remember Toyota turned the Supra into a sports car for this gen, one wonders if a Supra based 2 Series coupe would have made more sense
@ajvillanueva38
@ajvillanueva38 5 ай бұрын
8:42 - "this is a little faster" 9:47 - "it comes down to lifestyle choice" Really?? 😂 Why review then? Why race?
@eptdy
@eptdy 6 ай бұрын
Basically the same car minus the engine. The Z4 and 2 series basically gave the same chassis except one is slightly shorter.
@vinayvellookunnel947
@vinayvellookunnel947 6 ай бұрын
Should have been an m240 vs the Supra.. Now do that M2 vs a CT4V Blackwing❗👀
@KnuteJPhotos
@KnuteJPhotos 5 ай бұрын
Should do a m240i xdrive vs the m2 or vs the supra.
@luatngo5408
@luatngo5408 6 ай бұрын
pretty good shifting boys
@gazg1546
@gazg1546 6 ай бұрын
I could’ve told you who would win that just based on specs however where the supra comes into its own is on a circuit not just one turn but several turns especially in transitions. I’ve seen a few comparisons on the track between these two and the supra is a better car . In a straight line it’s obvious which has a better power to weight ratio , physics don’t lie. Plus $10,000 gets you a lot of goodies in the supra.
@davidgillham6847
@davidgillham6847 6 ай бұрын
The Supra is clearly more conservatively tuned, such is the Toyota way...
@gtrance3567
@gtrance3567 6 ай бұрын
Very cool? Any Camaro ss?
@ahmad1080p
@ahmad1080p 6 ай бұрын
say whatever about the BMW, they still make amazing cars
@guillaumesandmayer7053
@guillaumesandmayer7053 5 ай бұрын
Different story for you guys in the US for sure. But over here in Ozzy-land? No one bought the Supra. They're over $110,000aud second hand and I kid you not - I've seen maybe 3 different ones on the road.
@WRXMAN-ms2mm
@WRXMAN-ms2mm 5 ай бұрын
BMW against BMW in essence! Also not a fair fight between BMW power trains.
@najidahi7731
@najidahi7731 6 ай бұрын
So the car with the better power to weight ratio won. Has there ever been a U Drag where this has not happened?
@JayEmTee85
@JayEmTee85 6 ай бұрын
M2 for the drag strip and Supra for the Touge
@klidijosifi7401
@klidijosifi7401 6 ай бұрын
Typo, supra tire size is not 345
@davidbarlow7955
@davidbarlow7955 4 ай бұрын
Speed?
@verginsergin
@verginsergin 3 ай бұрын
There's a clear reason BMW gave the Supra the B58 and NOT the S58 engine. They did not want the Supra at a lower price point to outshine their M cars.
@RandyJM21
@RandyJM21 6 ай бұрын
How is the Supra on 345s and BMW on 285s that is Z06 size tires , now way the supra has all that tire and BMW has soo little .
@joseolarte7424
@joseolarte7424 6 ай бұрын
M2 vs camaro SS 1LE
@hpickettz34
@hpickettz34 6 ай бұрын
M2 will win
@JROC734
@JROC734 6 ай бұрын
@@hpickettz34 yeah, barely.... against a GEN5 SLE, but a GEN6 SS 1LE would creampie that cute little thottie... I mean Bimmer.
@JROC734
@JROC734 6 ай бұрын
SLE would beat the M2.
@Schwabz33
@Schwabz33 4 ай бұрын
I’m sorry guys, but this doesn’t make any sense. These cars don’t compete against each other. Why didn’t you just get the M240i both have B52engines?
@zonta647
@zonta647 6 ай бұрын
Unlock the DME on the Supra and it's a tie. 😊
@mryeahisaidit
@mryeahisaidit 6 ай бұрын
Why are we here 😒😒😒 bmw vs bmw and bmw wins 🤦🏾
@19hundoc47
@19hundoc47 6 ай бұрын
Becuase it’s fun to watch races, go to sleep buddy
@MarlonAllen-pg9dl
@MarlonAllen-pg9dl 6 ай бұрын
@19hundoc47 hes not your buddy pal
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