Edrum News: Yamaha Is Back With 3 New Kits - But Can They Compete With Roland & Alesis?

Yamaha has just returned to the $1000-$2000 price range with three new drum sets. The Yamaha DTX6K-X, DTX6K2-X, and the DTX6K3-X. But can they compete with drums already out from Alesis, Roland, and 2Box?
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[@dragonstunna]

Maybe I'm crazy but I honestly think all the prices should be cut in half.

[@skippbybr]

Ya you're crazy

[@kisnerhatej]

@@skippbybr hahaha

[@Beefnhammer]

Maybe not cut in half but they're definitively overpriced. No kit in 2020 over a thousand dollars should have rubber toms.

[@silotx]

They are selling exactly the same kit they have been selling for decades with nearly exactly the same module functionality wise for more money , it's like selling an old crt tv with a new casing and colors and proposing it's exciting new tv tech.

[@jmagnum15]

Should that cost cutting include the module that costs almost $700? For a little more, Yamaha is providing an entire drum set. It shouldn't be this hard to comprehend.

[@JoeHuman]

Hopefully all these new kits attract more people to playing drums in general. That said, I still feel the Roland TD-17 KVX is the best price for the most bells & whistles.

[@rolasg3278]

i'm going to purchase the 1500 dollar one. Your point about the small pads is moot in my situation. i'm in Los Angeles. The cost of living here is ridiculous to say the least. If i could afford a mansion with its own guest house/studio, then i would agree with your point "go big or go home". But times are tough right now. For my living situation, income, and currently all rehearsal and recording studios are mainly shut down, the small compact feature is right up my alley. In my new home rec studio I need the job done, not comfort with large bells and whistles.

[@joshtinkler8191]

FACE PALM, FACE PALM, FACE PALM, it’s 2020, how are 8” pads and rubber pads still being used in a new line of kits (other than obvs as a complete small beginners set) especially for that price

[@andreoproprio]

I hear you... for some weird reason all e-drum companies like to shoot themselves in the foot. GEWA is a crazy avanced drumset (and expensive), big pads, yet the sound sample quality is horrible; Roland never changed from that emulation-type samples over decades; ATV launched great drums with big pads and great natural sounding module, yet most complain sounds are way too dry and company seems to take forever to launch a new sound in their store; 2box have a good kit (though a bit too small) with good sound samples but all sound mono samples from 10yrs ago; Mimic Pro is great but you can buy 4 (!) laptops with SSD3 for the same price; Alesis just takes the middle ground in everything, not great in any particular feature and not the worst either; And the old Yamaha DTX had a good natural sounding to it but outdated, they've now really upgraded to 2020 standard, sounds gorgeous but launched with 7 and 8 inch pads! arrrrrgh! Too all e-drum companies out there: we couldn't make this stuff up!

[@laszlozoltan5021]

I dont have much room for all my "stuff"- my dtx700 fit in fine without having to rejigger my layout- a bigger set wouldve been a real headache for me- size can be an important consideration for some, by going compact yamaha is giving themselves an edge over competition requiring larger floor space.

[@joshtinkler8191]

@@andreoproprio yeah such a shame really, i’m looking at going ATV with either a roland or yamaha module, or maybe alesis - just frustrating how slow the e-drum industry is advancing. I mean it’s not like 10” pads take up much room anyways since it would all fit on the same rack

[@andreoproprio]

@@joshtinkler8191 Perhaps you should wait just another month or two until the EFNote hits the stores, looks promising with high quality (and natural samples) with added reverb & eq from the module, multiple outs and big pads, demo videos are promising but I don't think I've seen enough to be 100% convinced, I'm waiting.

[@joshtinkler8191]

@@andreoproprio Oh wow how have i not come across this company, cheers I’ll look into them and I won’t be buying a kit for a while so il see how well people review them. Their kits and equipment look great, thank you! :)

[@Brandonbikes]

I had my DTxPRESSIV for around 11 years, was a great set, 0 problems, those rubber tom pads are great too, good rebound and tough as nails. I recently upgraded to an Alesis strike pro se and love it.

[@biekanez1]

Great video Justin👍😎👊

[@JohnDRobinsonelectronicdrums]

Hi, Justin there is positional sensing on snare with new snare pad on the way (Yamaha XP125SD-X)

[@Prizmatic1658]

Thanks! This is very informative.

[@mattryan6886]

Would love to see Yamaha update the dtx multi 12 sample pad. It’s very capable unit, it’s huge down side being it’s lack of memory (128mB) and the insane menu diving on very small screen. The pad is great as a mini kit, has nice expand ability with 3 zone snare/ride option and has some other crazy MIDI tricks up its sleeve.

[@jerrygamez5723]

Thanks for the video.

[@FranksDrumCave]

Looks like a nice improvement from the 502 series. I like small drums, so the 8inch pads don’t bother me.

[@MrSear62]

really informed commentary Thank you

[@sbk1398]

So disappointed in Yamaha Not their best. Rubber and small pads still? Could've done much better

[@sbk1398]

@Wendy Williams 8" pads for that price in this year is just a setup for a flop. There are better options with bigger pads

[@anselmnoronha6805]

Hi Justin great review as always. Just wanted to ask you if it's possible to trigger loops on this module and does it have any memory storage for additional samples and wav files?

[@aqlord]

That savage ending tho 😂

[@ryantrimble4661]

Hey - I have an old Roland Td-3 Kit. Is there anywhere I can find out a ton of info on the TD-3? Also, can you replace the Module on the Td-3 to get more sound options & to add more pads?

[@jesetemo]

Would it be possivle to modify cables so that a Yamaha module can work with Roland pads etc?

[@eddie466]

What do you think about the alesis crimson 2 special edition that just came out? Its on sale for black Friday, should I get one or do you think it's worth waiting to see if the td17kv goes on sale? I don't mind paying more for the td17

[@travisjohnson7065]

Honest question, what's so bad about rubber pads? I've been a drummer for about 20 years (granted, it's been off and on) and I've played both mesh and rubber head electronic kits. I've played some mesh head kits that frankly sucked, and some rubber head kits that I actually enjoyed. I guess rubber is seen as "outdated" but other than that, why is mesh considered better? Maybe it's supposed to feel more realistic. I don't know, I guess I see it being kind of similar to digital pianos in the sense that, unless I was spending a few thousand dollars, I wouldn't really be looking for something that actually feels the same as the real instrument. I would just be looking for an enjoyable playing experience, and a sound that inspired me to play.

[@ianmclean5541]

You`re right on your points and rubber pads actually trigger better than mesh.

I have the DTX6K-X and the rubber pad only sounds good when you hit the very small center area of it. If you hit not close to the center, the sound is really quiet. The snare with TCS pad does not have this problem, you hit it near the edge and it still sounds good.

[@jeffcampbell8468]

Honest answer. After 20 to 30 minutes of playing, My wrists and my elbows are killing me. That's what's wrong with rubber pads.

[@essenter4222]

@@jeffcampbell8468 Then there is probably some problem with Your technique, because I own DTX6KX and with loose good grip, I can play with practically no pain for hours

Updated: after almost a year, the rubber pads seem to work fine now. I guess they need a certain amount of time to start to behave as expected. it still has the hotspot center of course, but the outer part sounds much better now. Im totally happy with rubber pads

[@paultowns]

Lmao that ending was the best.

[@Durwood71]

Yep... glad I watched to the end!

[@demonicsweaters]

I'm with you on leaning on the $1000 one out of the three. All of them have tiny pads, but all three have the same module, so the lowest price option seems like the best one. I'm definitely interested in the module too. And LOL to that new Alesis, those are the same pedals on the Pyle tabletop drums, haha.

[@jmagnum15]

Go with Alesis as long as you don't care about quality and resale value. The yamaha at the $1000 price point doesn't have much competition if you look at the full picture.

[@ZaxDrumsandGolf]

I think they should of made them all with silicone pads and just make them bigger as you go up in price. One thing for Yamaha they are sturdy and durable. But the rubber pads on the two lower priced kits are what will turn people off!! The module is based of the EAD10 module from what I heard!! Nice review Justin and I hope you have a Merry Christmas!!

[@MrJpm1989]

I've had a Roland TDK 11 for years. Last year I went and purchased a Yamaha kit sorry I forgot the specks but it was equally as good on paper. Got it home and tried it out and returned it the next day. It was as if I had bought a toy version of my Roland. I don't go for brand names just quality, I still to this day play my Roland and I'm very happy. I will keep checking out new styles and brands but for now Roland holds the title.

[@Flawliet93]

in my country, DTX720k have the same price with DTX6K3-X, which one to choose?

[@jerusalemiseternal]

Hey there, just out of interest - opinion on what might be the most widely used module today?

[@RettaTheRipper]

I was excited hearing about the new kits but meh. They look just like the DTX500 series kits. Meh.

[@edgarocampo1224]

I have the dtx532. The single zone crash and hi hat are actually worse because they came from the lower tier dtx400 line. It’s essentially a mix of the 500 and 400 series with upgraded module and kick. So I’m also not impressed

[@silotx]

@@edgarocampo1224 Exactly they are still milking their old products under new a new name

[@jmagnum15]

@@edgarocampo1224 You're downplaying how much of an upgrade the new Yamaha module is.

[@hoipimniet]

Haha those last 5 seconds xD

[@swingstylez]

This sounds like a very balanced and thorough review. In your video on the five mistakes people make when buying a new kit, you invite people to ask your opinion, so if you don't mind, here goes! (there's a lot here, so no worries if you can't answer it all) I have about $1000 to spend (actually, £1000 but the face value of the kits are the same in the US and the UK) and am looking at the TD17KV and the DTX6K-X. Here, the KV is £200 more than the DTX. I think I know what's going to be more important for me but would love to hear your opinion. Crash Cymbals: As an amateur, I would just bash and choke these. I never thought I would need multi-zones. What do you think? Ride: Both have multi zones, Yamaha has three, and you said that Roland doesn't allow customisation of the bell? I would have thought that's one of the most important part of the ride but maybe not... Hi-hat: how do they compare, do you think? Snare: Having a zone for cross stick seems like it would help the unit to feel just that bit more acoustic... but no brush capability I bet!! :P The Roland has a button but am told you can switch between cross-stick and rim-shot with velocity thresholds. Of course a bigger snare sounds easier to hit, and better for positional sensing BUT the TD17 module doesn't support it.Speaking of which, does Yamaha support configuration based on velocity thresholds? Skins: The main benefit of the Roland is the mesh all-around. At least I've been told that I should consider it a huge benefit. I've hit a mesh pad in a shop but never owned one. Module: Seems that the Yamaha module has the best potential, with positional sensing, splitting, and other fancy stuff that I don't yet understand. I think the Roland equivalent comes with the TD27? There seems to be a split on the sound quality, as you said. Extras: I heard Yamaha used to only work with iOS devices, which I don't own.

[@emregurhan2332]

Guys, what do you think about Valler dx480?

[@MelodicBunnyCore]

These e-kits that all look like Rock Band kits are exactly why I'm converting acoustic to electronic. Alesis Strike module + Roland cymbals + used acoustic kit with mesh heads and triggers. Same price range as this thing and a lot more fun to play.

[@Foodylox]

I'm using DM10 module with Roland drums and cymbals. I too am now planning to convert acoustic with mesh heads and triggers! 🙂

[@arnoldmunez5057]

Literally makes no sense buying a Yamaha kit at these prices

[@johndef5075]

Theres a listing on Reverb as of 11/27 for a Yamaha dtx500 with all silicone pads and a Simmons da50 monitor for $300!! Local pickup from Sayville, N.Y. If I was close Id be snagging that.

[@ErikSheppardVoice]

I hope this means there is more to come. I have a DTX 950 kit that I even added some extra toms and cymbals to and I still love the hardware. The silicon beats mesh (for me) and the cymbals, while old, still hold up with today's tech. I've been bashing the hell out of that kit for almost a decade and everything still works and looks great. But the module has not held up. I think 10 years ago the sounds were good but even then some of the preset kits sounded cheesy. I primarily use 2 kits that I made myself that sound good all around but I'm out of options without importing sounds. After all this time playing with it I'm still confused by some of the functions. If they come out with a new flagship module that I can plug my existing pads and cymbals into I'll be a very, very happy boy.

[@andreoproprio]

I'd say you're a lucky guy as you can just buy the new module and have a great kit, as the module has been THE real upgrade in all these new sets.

[@nobuna2114]

That new Alesis kit makes no sense. Where I live it will cost around 30$ less than the Turbo mesh kit XD What a great deal

[@AtTheSourceStudios]

Omg 😂🤣😂 "Alesis kit with the casio piano switches" - HARD PASS

[@gavinglover-composer993]

So this review leaves out some really important things: The pads may be smaller, but they feel is leagues more realistic than Roland or Alesis. The ride cymbal has 3 zones, where as the roland TD17KV which is more expensive, only has two zones which means you have to program and play your bell on the edge or body of the cymbal, once again, for a lot more money... The module doesn't just sound amazing, but you can customize the sounds and effects, eq, compression etc, and through a chain just like you would in any upper level DAW (Logic, Ableton, or Pro Tools Etc). Roland and Alesis don't let you do nearly the amount of alterations to dial in the sounds to exactly what you want (in my experience having played all of these kits that are functionally similar in a similar price range). The rubber tom pads aren't just rubber. They're silicon with a Yamaha patented technology that recreates the rebound of actual drums. If you play it, this checks out. Also, the latency is better than the competitors in this price range so that makes the overall feel of this kit even more accurate to playing an acoustic kit. There are so many reasons why you should buy these kits if you're comparing them to others in 1-2k price range. I'm not a Yamaha rep but I would be in a heartbeat since I believe in their products over the overpriced competitors any day of the week.

[@gavinglover-composer993]

Yamaha should have marketed these things so reviews like this wouldn't happen. In that regard they messed up. Everything else is far more user friendly and professional sounding for the money that you spend IMPO.

[@redeyedbuggers]

I’m an Ekit newb & I’m getting ready to buy the DTX6K3-X as my first kit, but I can’t help but wonder if I’m making the right choice since everyone seems to think mesh heads are better. For some reason the Yamaha kit is calling to me & I’m just gonna make the leap of faith & get it. I think the module sounds better than the competitors from what I’ve heard. Can’t wait to try it out!

[@arnoldmunez5057]

Yeah not happening my guy. I’m not going to pretend like they aren’t selling me a 500 dollar kit for 1000, a 1000 dollar kit for 1500, and a 1400 dollar kit for 1800. There are better options, Roland provides just as good of equipment for cheaper, and they are supposed to be the more expensive option.

[@gavinglover-composer993]

@@arnoldmunez5057 As a full time musician who uses this every single day for sessions and have gigged with it several times, I stand by my review. It's all personal preference though.

[@okjames2954]

Yeah, these look like kits that local music stores would have out on display and sell to electronic drum newbies or the parent shopping for a “electric kit” for their kid because they just walked in and did no research lol. I think nowadays, folks are looking for great feel of electronic drums more-so than sounds or cosmetic reasons (unless they need to not stand out performing with them). How well does the kit feel? Response? Trigger? Pad sizes? Will it pick up my ghost notes? Latency? Sounds can be upgraded with VSTs and the like, so it’s not even about that anymore. Module output features are important too for expanding your kit. But, without seeing a playing review, nothing really here that would sway me from choosing Roland kits in the same price range.

[@oscarwilliec]

Wow I think is time again to make a new video comparing these new products from Yamaha Roland and alessis

[@joeneibacher6767]

Does all 3 use the same exact module?

[@fastandfunky]

What are the chances that you can get a hold of a DTX6K3-X for a DEMO Justin

[@JohnnyAbe]

Should I get the Roland TD-17KVX or Yamaha DTX6K3-X ? Which is the best option and why?

[@LDdrums20]

I'm on the same boat

[@diyfixguy8999]

Appreciate what you're doing giving us all the details. I kind of feel like most of these companies making e-drums these days...are charging far too much for rice and beans. Once they're tooled up, they should mass produce at a lower cost to the consumer. If consumers see Yamaha as a substitute at a lower price they may buy the substitute. I demand a 14-in snare! :) My comment about the rice and beans has to do with restaurants charge really high prices for any products made with beans. Even coffee. ok I'm done. Next

[@NickBauman]

@@alvallac2171 ??????????

[@andreoproprio]

If for that same price had launched 12/10/10/12 pads they would have eaten a good chunk of the competition, because the module sounds great. For some weird reason all these companies seem to leave us all e-drum users using outdated crap for the next 40years

[@crieverytim]

so what's the verdict? considering this or the Roland. got a budget of $3k, incl throne, hihat stand and kick. but I'd be happy to go cheaper

[@dani.552]

What´s your opinion about ATV EXS-3?

[@Andrew-wb2zq]

I've listened to the kits from the videos they've released and I think they actually sound great. The physical kits are underwhelming for the price, but the module seems good.

[@65Drums]

I agree with both of those statements

[@rhythmcaster2018]

If Yamaha insists on their proprietary silicon pads. At least make them larger. What a shame because I like DTX's stock sample than 17kV's one.

[@gregwilliams2764]

You are right

[@camilo.venegas]

the last part made me laugh out loud

[@johnjacquard863]

I purchased the base modal yamaha dtx6k x im super excited can't wait!

[@johnjacquard863]

i believe its the best ekit offering in its price range from any manufacturer , cant wait till it arrives

[@joeneibacher6767]

Excited for you let us know how you like it. I was considering the same kit. One question, are all 3 the same module? If so, the dtx6k-x is looking real good because that is one bad ass module!

[@johnjacquard863]

@@joeneibacher6767 yes its great it is the same module !

[@kisnerhatej]

Love the videos justin!

[@HellcatCustoms]

I've been researching electronic and acoustic drum sets looking to buy my first drum kit and these honestly look like kids toys. The prices are definitely TGH!

[@jmagnum15]

Focus on sound and feel. If you want something absurdly large for a practice kit then follow the size. For size, just buy a cheap full sized drum set and add electronics. The module on these new offerings are extremely competitive at these price points.

[@HellcatCustoms]

@@jmagnum15 I'm leaning towards the Alesis Crimson II SE kit. I know Yamaha and Roland modules have better drum sounds, but the kits (materials, options and features) they offer in the same price range are trash in comparison.

[@arnoldmunez5057]

@@jmagnum15 you can get a Roland with just as nice of a module and more equipment for the same price, not worth it.

[@davidbcg286]

Slash 200-300 USD on each kit and that could be my #1 pick because - it'll sound good, even the latest Roland kit with Thomas Lang sounded so bad, it'll take sound as a serious criteria - the compact size has its advantages - even being small, the parts are good Wait and see... my #1 wish is an update of the DTX multi 12 pad actually... hope to see that soon

[@janpaolomanaog6107]

Hoping to get an edrums hahah

[@fastandfunky]

I once owned an early DTXTREME Yamaha kit at the time it was the top of the line, it was a great kit I played them for 13 years not one issue, would I buy another Yamaha kit, yes but, they never updated the kit sounds, I thought they would compete head to head with Roland and really step up their game but it never happened I am really disappointed in them, and those small pads ridiculous. I had a Roland TD 30 that I played out regularly with but I had issues with it and that bucked my confidence in them as well, but decided to stick with Roland for now, I play a TD 17 kit and have been for the past year and it has served me well, I love the Module it is very user friendly when you are gigging and you need to make adjustments in a hurry between songs, I have been playing electronic drums for a very long time, I know a lot guys that bad mouth them but those of us that know how to use them love them, they have their place and I still have and play an acoustic kit but their are times when only electronic drums will do, I love your channel, I feel like you are really coming on strong with this format keep up the good work brother!

[@tbip2001]

Why does Yamaha not offer mesh pads? I thought it was a patent issue but lots of companies offer mesh pads.

[@modernbeachball]

LET'S GOOOOOOOO FINALLY

[@albert3535ify]

Played Roland, Yamaha, Alesis and efnote all for first time yesterday. Personally I thought the Yamaha pads were horrible to play on and Tha Alesis mesh was not up to standard with efnote and Roland. I'm going to go with Roland I think because I didn't really enjoy the remote hihat pedal on the efnote kit in my price range

[@Iamadrummer]

The price may be high for rubber pads but I prefer rubber pads over mesh. The silicone pad may be better as you say but I have never played on them. Also with the fate of the world and lots of people not having much money they should cut the prices in half as a "sale". If they sell well over 6+ months or so then charge full price. If lots of drummers get them and reccomend them then even when pricing goes to full price others will buy them.

[@Glurbschnurb]

Second :) About time Yamaha! Excited to watch this

[@NickBauman]

@@alvallac2171 Please leave the comment section.Are you a bot or something or just annoying?

[@frantisekdikacz5590]

module seems interesting, i really want to know when yamaha designers wake up and try to do something with the pads...snare in these days for that price point minimally 13"/tom 10"/floor 12" as acceptable and the kit would be turned into the biggest surprises in 2020 edrum new line.

[@gregwilliams2764]

That’s for sure

[@MrGaxar]

please review the new alesis crimson 2 special edition

[@scottyg5403]

Rubber pads? WTF! Rather go with the Roland kit for the same price! Nice review!Thanks

[@jmagnum15]

Roland kit has a far inferior module and you can't even get a bell sound w/ the Roland. Hard pass for me.

[@canadianlightbulbs]

Glad to see yamaha is getting back into the edrum industry Gotta say I wish they would move on from the silicone pads As good as they feel at first The do break over time and the heads are not replaceable Thats the biggest advantage of mesh in my opinion (which is why I have since switched to a roland kit) but nonetheless I hope they do well The more competition the better

[@MM-ig1iv]

I think they should be at least 10 inch toms?

[@cronkitepercussion]

Makes it easier to keep my DTXtreme 3 with Addictive Drums. Thanks Yamaha!

[@laszlozoltan5021]

wondering if the new module is designed to interface with android, or is this one too, just apple ? edit: looked it up on yamaha's own site: apparently there will be an app for both android and apple.

[@braybraymitchface]

TD07KV or the DTX6K-X?

[@timothykang1070]

Should Yamaha offer mesh pads? Personally, I like the silicone pads and Roland's mesh pads about equally. And in my experience, the silicone pads are much more durable.

[@ivoshterev]

They are losing to Roland in the high end department .... they have to release a new top of the line kit soon !

[@terrygoudreau880]

comparing the old DTX582K which I was considering & now discontinued, I'd have to go with the 6K3-X. I don't see what I'm getting for the extra $500 (in Canada). The 582K gave me a better snare & kick than I will get now for more money. Yeah, I know, I get a better control module, but really?

[@botsunny013]

Rubber toms at a thousand bucks?

[@GoulartGH]

@@williamperri3437 apparently it does, judging by the demos I'd prefer it over the TD-07 (or even the TD-17) any time of the day. but it's a matter of preference, surely

[@botsunny013]

@@GoulartGH Wow really? I've been looking to get a mid-range kit and was stuck between the TD07 and the Crimson II. If Yamaha's sounds are the best among the three I might try to get used to those rubber pads instead.

[@GoulartGH]

@@botsunny013 well, don't trust me, search for sound demos and take your own conclusions. this link has quite a few of those: usa.yamaha.com/products/musical_instruments/drums/el_drums/drum_kits/dtx6_series/audio_video.html#product-tabs

[@GoulartGH]

@@botsunny013 or maybe wait until drum-tec inevitably does a sound demo of their own, and compare with their TD-07 sound demo :D

[@botsunny013]

@Wendy Williams I'm from Asia actually. Where I live the only vendor I found so far that sells this is selling it at roughly 1450 USD :D

[@georgemullen7563]

Yamaha in my opinion is the best in electronic drums, the build quality and sound is on point!!!

[@arnoldmunez5057]

They use rubber toms and ask for 1500 No

[@arko_s]

I think Yamaha basically concentrates mainly on acoustic drum rather than electronic drums. I think they make electronic drum for like people who wants to to have both electronics and acoustic drums exclusively from one brand.

[@conair1625]

Justin why ATV isn't mentioned in your videos anymore ???

[@65Drums]

ATV USA just went out of business. So until they reenter the United States market again with their Japan branch, I'll never see their kits again unfortunately.

[@juleshammond5525]

Pause alesis is coming out with a new set as well

[@juleshammond5525]

@Malachi Yut Suen Wong check the end of the video he kinda mentioned it

[@jakeknudson9971]

You would think that a company such as Yamaha which makes incredible Acoustic drums sets, out of this world grand and electric pianos with weighted keys, Kick butt Bass/Electric guitars, amplifiers, mic sets ect. that sound absolutely fantastic could present an E-drum kit that sounds amazing just like they used to with bigger pads better sounds and an updated look. I’d even consider it at like $2000 if they gave me at least a 12” snare and 10” toms, 10” crashes and maybe a 13” triple zone ride as long as the module sounds good and I know the older pads lasted years and years so no problems there, These look pretty much the same as the old DTX line with an updated module.........I’m not overly impressed compact kits are slowly dying out most people want bigger and more durable sets with good quality sounds unless they let me buy the module only, I think this was a bad move on Yamaha’s part and if I remember right some of the Roland, ATV, Jobeky and Alesis cymbals won’t work with Yamaha modules are manufacture Specific so if you do get your hands on the module you would have to buy their cymbals to use it which wouldn’t be the end of the world but still kinda puzzles me. I don’t think these will sell as good as they think they will if they offer the module alone then maybe? Otherwise they better have something up their sleeve in the way of a flagship model cuz I’m not impressed at the moment.

[@timothykang1070]

A decent module, but everything else is underwhelming. I hope they have something more for the new line up replacing the 700 and 900 series.

[@U2WB]

Why is Alesis considered in the top 2 ? Their pads and sound samples are totally inferior to Roland and Yamaha IMO.

[@65Drums]

They are top 2 in terms of sales volume. The whole quality debate is a separate thing

[@williamblake]

The new kick pad looks great.

[@paulparker4697]

Why wouldn't they put a 12" snare? Cymbals are all triple zone that's great.

[@jmagnum15]

They are going to release XP125SD-M, but it is not yet available.

[@Jellybeantiger]

These new kits,especially the top of the line one are awesome,only shit drummers need a big snare or ride pad,I have heard the sounds from a Billy Hyde shop demo (Aussie music store) and this kit sounds great and I couldn’t hear any machine gunning. If only these were 1k cheaper,they would fly from the shelves and Yamaha would dominate the edrum market. Top of the line is 2.9k here in Australia,maybe 500 less? All in all ,a great kit.

[@NickBauman]

@@alvallac2171You are special.

[@Jellybeantiger]

@@alvallac2171 Have a nice day!

[@josearaujo8616]

Sooner or later someone is going to do what keyboard did, and release midi controllers only. i.e. Drum sets designed to plug only to computers,, bundle them with Ez drummer or any other drum software. Alesis is kind of doing it...

[@scottw3780]

How can they sell anything with 8” pads? Now the cat is out the bag with A2E conversions, I have no idea why anyone would spend money on something like this?

[@Falasi4]

These will all be on sale or commonly less than the current prices discussed

[@65Drums]

This isn't the M.A.P. price, this is the price in actual music stores. I'm sure they'll go on sale at some point as you said, but this is what they cost right now.

[@Falasi4]

@@65Drums missed the part that they were already available. Checked online and they are indeed out and not on sale yet. As much as I like Yamaha, those prices are too high imho. Apps to supplement the interface are great but a phone/tablet holder would be nice- even cheap drones have those built into the controllers.

[@warrenk9587]

The module might be good but the prices are to high. These kits look like entry level hardware. It's outrageous that edrum companies are charging the same prices that acoustic kits sell for.

[@vivagoa9869]

Guide me to buy electronic drum, my budget is 1500 us dollars. And I want nice and clear sound. Specially base and symbols

[@fishfinderchartersdavis9556]

If I were to choose between the TD17KVX and the new Yammi* I’d still stick at the moment to my TD17KVX its a great home real feel practice kit plus I’ve upgraded some of the Tom rods to ball joint style for excellent adjustments as I don’t play with my toms on big angles it’s really nice 👍🏻

[@justasomeone8403]

Personally I don't mind the rubber pads all that much neither am I really tall so those sizes work for me I'd take this over Roland TD 07 and 17 reasons being newer module unlike 07 more outputs and most importantly no need for cable snakes also on Yamaha Europe website on the spec section it said it has 200 user kits which make me wonder will there be updates with extra kits or it's most likely for imported sounds

[@christine3043]

I don’t mind rubber pads either. I have a hybrid mesh and rubber kit.

[@cronkitepercussion]

So much talk about Edrum sounds: quantity, quality. After 45 years of playing an acoustic kit (moderate changes in sound from new cymbals), no one's complained about my drums sounds.

[@daveseemerollin6357]

That's nice, but this channel is about edrums so your comment was about as useful as condoms endorsed by the Pope.

[@ryanburchett8455]

Agreed that the module seems strong and the rubber pads are bad news. Price is definitely too high.

[@gavinglover-composer993]

Check out the technology and feel behind the rubber pads. The price is honestly low considering all of the crazy features and design that went into this. Watch the 47 minute video on these kits if you actually want to know how amazing this thing is.

[@arnoldmunez5057]

@@gavinglover-composer993 Awesome! Still not worth the price!

[@gavinglover-composer993]

@@arnoldmunez5057 Completely disagree but if you feel that way, I literally don't care and I'm not sure why you care so much.

[@arbogast4950]

If I want Yamaha drum sounds ill just plug my keyboard into my module lol.

[@zambination11]

So the 6K3-X is basically a DTX582 kit with a kick drum unit downgrade and $500 more.. Nice

[@matthiasrambally1899]

All those drumsets costs should be slashed by atleast $200 or even $300

[@jmagnum15]

You can get at least that much off depending on where you buy them from.

[@Engine45]

We need a Kemper for the edrum world. Too much expensive crap on the market :-(

[@Beefnhammer]

Honestly these aren't priced competitively enough with Roland. Putting aside the the glaring issue of the pad sizes and the use of rubber toms, since Yamaha is choosing to stick by their silicone pads instead of moving to mesh this compounds that problem. The TCS pads are a very good alternative to mesh but I feel new buyers will see it and be like 'what? no mesh? for that price?' and immediately lose interest on that basis alone assuming that they feel the same as rubber, which they don't. On the flipside I think the new module sounds amazing especially considering its price range, but the pad configurations are overpriced in my opinion.

[@rs9217]

I will take Alesis bigger sets or Roland if I had the 💰

[@jmagnum15]

I prefer the feel of the Yamaha silicone pads. I know they aren't big, but I'd follow feel and sound first. I have no interest in tuning an e-kit and the mesh stuff feels like hitting a tennis racquet. Options are good though.

[@Durwood71]

If you want a Roland on a budget, troll the used market. Lots of great deals on last gen kits.

[@10minuteswithjesus46]

Still Yamaha is the only company offering the tuning and training apps that are awesome for beginners. That is how I made my choice

[@lajeanette33]

I really don’t get their strategy: same small pads, they don’t show any example of a drum roll, which probally mean that it’s still à machine gun roll. I love Yamaha products and i’m sooooo disapointed!

[@NickBauman]

@@alvallac2171 OMG

[@alexandredesmonts35]

why yamaha never went to high end products for electronic drums? it's a shame

[@EY77724]

I really wish they come with bigger snare.... 8inch is toooooooo small