Edward Green Shoes Review: Cardiff In Mink Suede & Edward Green 202 Last | $1450 Of Disappointment

[@davidhorne7444]

The Kirby Alison review was very odd some of the things he mentioned just made no sense, the brogueing on the shoe not all the way through is really not good, whatever 100 bucks shoe has brogueing all the way through.

[@MisiuAcademy]

It’s a small issue but something that should have been better taken care of for 1450$.

[@henryt9254]

The prominent "Made in England" is a marketing slogan just like "Proudly Made in USA". It is a form of mind-f@*king".

[@MisiuAcademy]

It’s all about marketing these days!

[@DEN3366]

With these heels, I would return them. Generally EG will age better and retain shape longer than something like CJ. So I believe lots of works go into structure of the shoes as well.

[@MisiuAcademy]

There’s definitely a lot of things that are inside the shoe and you don’t really see. I cannot return these and would rather sell them to someone for a good price. My Yeossal is half the price and I like it so much more but that also boils down to taste

[@DEN3366]

@@MisiuAcademy Agree that Asian shoes are way much cheaper. I just ordered one from Hephaestus.

[@MisiuAcademy]

I haven’t tried them yet but my good enthusiast friend say’s they are great.

[@gaius68]

Thanks for sharing an honest review. Really good to hear negatives as well as positiives. Be good to hear whether or not you decide to keep them.

[@MisiuAcademy]

Thanks David. They turned out to be factory seconds and when I get the time I will make a short video to showcase it. They are for sale for just 699.99$ in my blog.

[@davidedmonds6427]

I agree Kostas for $1450., not IMPRESSED, VERY DISAPPOINTING!!!

[@MisiuAcademy]

Thanks for watching David! I have shoes that cost $200 and others that cost $2500 so I know what to expect. They could have done better.

[@bheinatz1]

A thorough review, though I think it's a bit unfair. You are clearly not into the understated British style, where simple, flawlessly executed, long-lasting items are valued over the flashy, garish details of Italian, French, or other European houses. I generally prefer Italian design over British, just a you do, but that side, you glossed over the fact that these were rejected MTOs. The flaws you pointed out would most likely not be present on a pair you paid full price for. You can't get them for far less than retail and then judge then as if they were a first rate pair. This review just smacked a bit disingenuous to me.

[@MisiuAcademy]

Hi Ben, this was not a rejected pair. After he ordered, the original client changed his size to UK 8. It’s not that I don’t understand British style, I am just not a huge fan. There’s nothing flawlessly executed on this pair at least and this is not the first time I see something like this on new pairs of EG. The bottom line for me is that I (key word, I not everyone) doesn’t like this British old fashioned aesthetic, the pricing is a too much and Kirby Allison’s review was exceptionally annoying. Thank you for watching and leaving a thorough comment and having a healthy discussion!

[@Ilsabb331]

Great flippin’ video Kostas!! Don’t get the tattoo. And, in my opinion, don’t listen too closely to Mr. Allison. My experience w/ EG shoes has been very positive although the shoes I own are older. I don’t notice any flaws or imperfections. I would send the shoes back to EG documenting why you believe they are substandard. I would be surprised if they don’t reach out and make it right. Also, at least in the past, EG was the gold standard for RTO British shoes. It was not accident G&G worked there and likely learned the art and craft of fine shoe making. But, as you say, this is my opinion. Finally, at least for now, my favor comment: “I feel like I’m back in Sparta…” Take good care and thanks again for an honest, no holds barred review.

[@MisiuAcademy]

I’m not sure, some say these are factory seconds, i asked the seller he said they are new. Honestly I got better things to do that play investigator haha. Glad you enjoy the content!

[@muhammadaliclay8976]

@09:29 bro calm down .. hahahahahhahahhaahhaha

[@MisiuAcademy]

Got to bring some humor in!

[@ianarn]

Sorry but I think your far too tough on Edward Green! You should review a company like Church’s shoes which is a true rip off with shoes and boots that should be priced around the Loake or Barker price range in terms of quality. I think Loake is actually better than Church’s particularly the 1880 range. They are truly a “brand” that trades off the name of its past glories.

[@MisiuAcademy]

Hi Ian, I think church’s are rubbish, and I would never spend money to buy them and just review them. I didn’t have a great experience with loake 1880, I think you can do better overall. In any case, I still think the EG shoes are not worth the full price, but this particular pair was far from acceptable. I have reached out to them but they stopped replying to me.

[@lapizza7206]

I wouldn’t accepted those shoes for that price.

[@MisiuAcademy]

Follow up video will come in the future, I did some investigation. But yes.

[@sursorn5575]

@@MisiuAcademy Is this follow video available?

[@MisiuAcademy]

No sorry I didn’t bother. I sold them.

[@Tailorandbarber]

That's really disappointing for $1,450. Great review!

[@MisiuAcademy]

Hello! There has been an update since then, Edward Green helped me identify that these shoes were factory seconds from 2017 and the seller didn’t disclose any truth. So the final result should be much better. I plan to edit my article with the new info but I have already sold these shoes so a video won’t be available. But regardless for that price I would look elsewhere for my style.

[@Tailorandbarber]

@@MisiuAcademy Thanks for the update!

[@MisiuAcademy]

You are welcome. I should have been more diligent but I swallowed my pride and contacted EG by myself to find out about this. They were more than helpful and accommodating and true gentlemen and can only give them credit for the excellent response.

[@kaikaichen]

Edward Green makes one shoe I really like - the Chelsea (classic cap-toe oxford). In terms of aesthetics, to me it the Goldilocks of oxfords. The perfect balance of not being too aggressive and not too conservative. Of course, I'm sure the shoe is still not quite worth the amount EG charges.

[@MisiuAcademy]

Exactly, when I talked about aesthetics I spoke about me and said that if someone else likes them, perfect. I still find them overpriced though!

[@jeffreygoss8109]

Italy, huh? Getting closer to some great shoe makers to learn from. I’m saving up for some Kostas made shoes.

[@MisiuAcademy]

Hopefully next year :)))

[@patj7007]

Great review. I have several EG’s and they came packaged with shoe bags. Had similar issues with the heel on a suede pair but they made it right. Leather pairs had no issues. Agree that you can get comparable quality for cheaper price.

[@MisiuAcademy]

Thanks for sharing! I asked and the box was an older packaging but the shoes were new. Not that it would bother me but you know.

[@Billywoo12]

Only for the most discerning of customers. If you are trying to do the cost/value equation, don’t look at Edward Green…. or Rolex…. Or Bentley…. or Ferrari… or…..

[@MisiuAcademy]

I only care about quality at this point and I have far more expensive shoes than these. The quality of this one was sub par for the price.

[@Billywoo12]

@@MisiuAcademy I would like to understand more. By quality, do you mean craftsmanship, materials, design...?

[@MisiuAcademy]

Design is quite subjective so not so much. If you look for something classic and contemporary for example, Edward green might be perfect for you, even more if it fits you well. However for $1400 which was about the price of this model, the leather was not as good, the craftsmanship was lacking (misaligned holes, medallion etc). For a connoisseur, the construction matters even if it doesn’t really have an impact on them. This is a shoe made by machine, while others in the same price range are made purely by hand. In other words, when people have this amount of money they usually want the best they can get. This one is great, but not the best. Sorry English is not my mother tongue I hope it makes sense. In the end, If you are an average consumer that has the budget and likes how these look and fit, you will be happy.

[@Billywoo12]

@@MisiuAcademy makes perfect sense, thanks for your comments. 👍

[@sursorn5575]

Quite disappointing for Edward Green shoes ..

[@MisiuAcademy]

It was. I did find out later though that the seller lied to me and they were seconds.

[@sursorn5575]

@@MisiuAcademy unbelievable I can’t believe they would do that

[@Tommy_ZM]

I just ordered the Piccadilly in Dark Oak and the Banbury in snuff suede. Incredible shoes. I’d 100% recommend shoe trees and a shoe horn for new purchases to increase longevity. When it comes to oil, shining etc I just find a top shiner around. Get some quality socks to match (William Abraham, mes chaussettes rouges, Pantherella, Falke) all great brands. You don’t need anything better than their high quality cotton if you’re not trying to spend a ton.

[@MisiuAcademy]

Hey Tommy thanks for sharing your experience and tips. I always recommend trees and a nice brush. Shoe horn is a must so you do not crack the heel stiffener by mistake. wear them in good health!

[@Tommy_ZM]

@@MisiuAcademy I agree! I’ll be buying John Lobb brushes

[@antoinev9733]

@@Tommy_ZM LOL the fist thing i kept when my grand-pa died , was (he weared 8 i wear 9 ) his shoe brushes :)

[@krystjanchanerley9288]

Good review

[@MisiuAcademy]

🙌

[@jeffreygoss8109]

“Laces are nice” 😀 . I have gotten toys from Amazon packaged better.

[@MisiuAcademy]

I had to find something nice to say!

[@jeffreygoss8109]

Good for you. Too many s hills coo over a shoe because of the name and not the quality. My Trickers for example were quite disappointing.

[@MisiuAcademy]

I think tricker’s are ok for what they offer. They are also much cheaper than say EG. Still not the style I like, they are too country and rugged.

[@sursorn5575]

Crockett and Jones or Cheaney are best

[@MisiuAcademy]

I’d go with CJ any day of the week from the main English ones

[@biscuitnoir1]

That's a really baaaaaad joke my friend 🤣 As for the shoes you already know where I stand.... in another pair of shoes made by another brand 😁 Totally agree with you. Regardless of the history these are still shoes so expendable after a few years. I'd rather have 3 different Carmina's for the price of these

[@MisiuAcademy]

I’d rather have another brand than Carmina but that’s another topic 🤣

[@biscuitnoir1]

@@MisiuAcademy 3 TLB's then!

[@MisiuAcademy]

Tlb artista > Carmina but that’s my pov :)

[@MisiuAcademy]

The only thing that matters is that you are happy with your shoes! Wear them in pride and good health!

[@ghostygallagher]

send them back

[@MisiuAcademy]

Nah can’t unfortunately and won’t bother

[@jeans6780]

Im quite surprised with the flaws you have on this pair. You mentionned you get it from an MTO order? Maybe the pair is a « sub »? Is There a « B » marked inside the shoe ?(where the size and last are written) Anyway i can understand your disappointment 🤷‍♂️ did you reach out to EG about this? Clearly this is not acceptable. My personal expérience : The EG shoes ive tried and seen at the store looked perfectly fine to me.

[@MisiuAcademy]

Hello, I actually reached out to EG after this and they were very friendly and helpful and even helped me track down the actual shoes. Apparently they were seconds, which makes more sense and the seller essentially lied to me.

[@111ImNumber1]

I have around 50 pairs of EG shoes and can firmly tell their QC has clearly declined over the last 15 years. My older pairs are the best in terms of leather quality, attention to detail and construction

[@MisiuAcademy]

Hi, thanks for watching and letting me know about your thoughts. Despite what I said, I decided to reach out to EG yesterday about finding out if the shoes I have are the real deal. To their credit, they were really nice and polite and offered to help me figure things out. These seem to be seconds and the seller lied or had no idea. I cannot edit the video, but I will edit my article and put a stickied comment under this video. I cannot say what their current vs old QC is but one thing is for sure, the pair I have is not worth full price. Stay tuned for the update next week hopefully.

[@111ImNumber1]

@@MisiuAcademy seconds are usually stamped somewhere as seconds. Their customer service is OK, but that doesn’t surprise me when I am dropping a lot money on a pair of shoes. I believe they seriously need to up their game and do better in terms of QC. Otherwise, their good days are already behind them. People have become very well educated on what a quality pair of shoes should look like at different price points. I am a big fan of EG (or maybe I once was) but now I find G&G and StC do much better in terms of QC on all fronts for pretty much the same price

[@MisiuAcademy]

No I agree with you the bar has been raised from certain brands a lot. I was disappointed by StC actually. But even if these were firsts, I have better quality shoes in my collection I feel. There are a lot of components we don’t see inside the shoes, but this is something you will see after a lot of wear. But if you have 50 pairs of EG I’m sure you will notice all the small details over the years. Thank you for sharing your viewpoint

[@antoinev9733]

Shit ! you could be right. as an exemple, if i remember of "resoling" my oldest EG the cork was not just a paste, right ?? at a time, i left Church for EG ... time to change again ?? if you have "solutions" , i have no boots anymore 😢 :)

[@steveh2027]

Hearing EG referred to as Taco Bell is hilarious 😂😂😂

[@shihyang1208]

I just got my first EG boot during their year-end sale before watching this video. I think the image they give to me is the durability. I hope I am lucky to have a well-QC pair. I also feel they are overpriced so I wait until sale. The box is slightly damaged during shipping but they do come with shoe bags. I will wear it for a while and see what I find. BTW, I also have Paolo Scarfora shoes and they are really unmatchable! I also saw you reviewing Stefano Bemer and Meccariello Shoes and I look forward to getting them. BTW, I do have Bontoni shoes. Not sure if you will have chance to review this brand? They are slightly casual in my opinion. :)

[@MisiuAcademy]

Hi Stanley, if you go through the comments you will find out that my shoes ended up being factory seconds. I will update as soon as I can. Durability becomes irrelevant at this price point because quite often you have so many shoes to rotate they would last you forever. I find bontoni way too overpriced and have currently no desire to spend my own money to review them :)

[@shimenga1]

Love your honesty. I've spent countless hours on weekends perusing through shoe shops in London-holding shoes,feeling the leather and weight, trying them on sometimes,etc. Edward Green, G&G, Crocketts, Church, Lobb, Fosters, Cleverly, Trickers, Cheaney, Loake, Grensons, Weston,etc. I'm fast coming to the conclusion that ,as you mentioned in a previous video, if you want a 'good' shoe and 'value' in the factory made- ready to wear space.....i'd say go no higher than mainline Crocketts or Trickers. You get diminishing returns on anything more expensive than that.

[@MisiuAcademy]

Thanks for watching! I also feel that with the exception of GG British shoes refuse to change or modernize a little. Edward Green is riding the wave and its reputation. I do prefer a good machine shoe over a shitty handwelted one still. But the only machine shoe that really blew my mind was Norman Vilalta. For sure you get diminishing returns. You can get a phenomenal shoe for 300-500$. After that it becomes a niche enthusiast field.

[@biscuitnoir1]

I completely agree with you on the diminushing returns. The higher prices should be reserved to unique/custom/bespoke shoes.

[@antoinev9733]

@@biscuitnoir1 Last EG was ... 4 years ago ... fully fine. as i said ... It is time to consider EG as what it is ... a fine RTW shoemaker ... without bespoke.

[@dannyhensley983]

I am glad to see an honest review. Most reviewers just go over how good things are and they forget to tell you about any flaws they may have. I also wanted to let you know that the last time I visited the noble shoe website I saw a pair of either two or maybe they were three eyelet derbies as soon as I can work it out I'm gonna order them if you still have them

[@MisiuAcademy]

Hi Danny, glad you are enjoying the content. I try to be honest, more on the super expensive products. I always have some form of 2-3 eyelet derbies on the shop so any time you can message me via email!

[@i.o.3563]

Thanks for the review. I believe some imperfections is just a norm for handmade product. I have seen many things like that in lots of goods being very expensive. Handmade can't be perfect. People will always make some mistakes. In terms of worth it... come on, no shoes are worth that kind of money. Such products aren't made for those looking for best price/quality ratio.

[@MisiuAcademy]

Hello, thanks for watching. It turned out these shoes were seconds and I got scammed in a way. However you are wrong that expensive shoes aren’t worth it. Since this video, I studied bespoke shoemaking. A real, handmade shoe will take 60-80 hours to make, not counting the materials. Imagine your wages in a modern country try for two weeks and things make more sense. But still, it is indeed a luxury for many people. You can get a very nice shoe for 1/4-1/5 of the price these days 😊

[@i.o.3563]

@@MisiuAcademy Yes, the costs are high, but hardly objectively worth it. As you said, for half of that price we can have extremely similar shoes. It doesn't matte how much you spend on making shoes, it's important the result to be noticeable for the wearer. And that's hardly the case after about 6-700 Euros. Price increase from there just improves some tiny aspects that not everybody cares about. I'm not saying really expensive shoes or garments aren't good, I'm saying they aren't as good as they are expensive. I like my Bontonis more than Santonis but they're objectively aren't two times better, which is the case with price.

[@MisiuAcademy]

@i.o.3563 we definitely agree on that :)

[@steveh2027]

Those shoe trees tell me everything I need to know about the brand.

[@MisiuAcademy]

Hi Steve, after my investigation it turns out my pair was factory seconds. It wouldn’t change my mind about the overall pricing and quality but it is important for me to do research and I am happy with how professional EG was when I reached out to them even though they knew they were speaking to a person that badmouthed them. As for the rest, you can make your own decisions :)

[@kbrett2004]

I enjoyed hearing your thoughts about these shoes. As always, thanks for the vid.

[@MisiuAcademy]

Thanks a lot for the support Brett! Still can’t believe 1.7k of you are watching me blabber about shoes!

[@uyijo4680]

Love the sweater your wearing

[@MisiuAcademy]

Thank you Uyi, the company is Gobi Cashmere. You can find the link to them in the description. They have sales right now.

[@uyijo4680]

@@MisiuAcademy I think u should do a review on it

[@MisiuAcademy]

Maybe! In the meantime you can find the written review here www.misiuacademy.com/gobi-cashmere-turtleneck-review/

[@uyijo4680]

@@MisiuAcademy thanks

[@sursorn5575]

@@MisiuAcademy Mongolian Cashmere ..

[@alexanderdylanthomas1891]

Great review Kostas! I would have to agree with you, I have owned Edward Green in past, but have since sold them in preference of other Northampton makers. C&J handgrade oxfords are as good as EG in my opinion, and half the price. I have since settled on C&J bench grade for most of my shoe wardrobe, as this is the perfect price to quality ratio for me. Those trees look identical to my C&J ones too... Thanks for your honesty in this review. Regards, Alexander

[@MisiuAcademy]

Thank you for watching and commenting Alexander. CJ Benchgrade are surely good value if you like the British aesthetic.

[@ianarn]

Well yeah no shoes are really worth more than C&J or Carmina really! Only those shoes are worth it because they are better quality! Otherwise keep buying plastic shoes and throwing them away.

[@MisiuAcademy]

Good handmade shoes take 60-80 hours to make. A machine made shoe can take 30 minutes. Obvious diminishing returns, but for handmade shoes the cost is understandable. Value is at the 300-500$ for everyday people.

[@kidze73]

Hi Misiu, how do you like the 202 last compared to the 82 last and 915 last?

[@MisiuAcademy]

Hello, I don’t have experience with the other two I’m afraid. However the 202 fit me extremely well in 8.5 so I would probably say the same for the 82.

[@ianarn]

@@MisiuAcademyNo the 82 is much narrower and pointy in my view! I’m a UK 7.5 in normal shoe measurements and i don’t need to size up on my 82s but i sold them and kept my 202 EGs and i fit size 8 on those and their way more comfortable. I like the soft suede on the EGs and find C&J and Cheaney to not have the same fineness. It is a helluva lot of money at full price for their shoes and boots though at EG.

[@alexxfreedom]

Can I ask you said these where MTO? Is that what has driven the price up or is that the RTW price?

[@MisiuAcademy]

Hi Alex, actually this was a thing I cleared with the seller after the video. This was not MTO it was RTW from EG that a small retailer had procured. He changed his mind about sizing and these alongside some others got left over. But in any case they were new and unworn. The pricing is based on looking at the EG website for the Cardiff which is about $1450 in Europe and $1650 for the dover.

[@alexxfreedom]

@@MisiuAcademy wow they are very expensive, I am more drawn to G&G either way, but I didn't think EG would be this poor, might be a one off but it isn't good.

[@MisiuAcademy]

I suppose there is a chance that these were factory seconds or something, but they still don’t speak to me.i prefer the styling of GG too, but there are people that prefer the British aesthetic. So I try to see it from both sides.

[@niniengineering]

👍 for the review! It bothers me too if there is something wrong at a shoes quality! About Kirby’s review, in my eyes he do the most things pushed by💰

[@MisiuAcademy]

Thanks for watching 🙌

[@antoinev9733]

LOL i appreciate (d?) EG, but just can't listen at Kirby's more than 2mn i was laughthing with the way he explained how to "mirror" a pair of "jesaispas quoi" .... "lighr with major ... circular mouvment blaaaa blaaa blaaa " :)))))

[@niniengineering]

@@antoinev9733 me too. He sounds like a salesman 😂😂😂😂

[@antoinev9733]

@@niniengineering right :) i have consideration for salesmen ... that know to listen and undestand. talking talking talking ... this guy ignore how i can make suffering a bad salesman if i have time to waste ;)

[@amphibian200]

The packaging is not what a full price pair of Edward Greens come with. The full priced pairs come in a bright green branded box with two shoebags. This is the kind of packaging they do for their factory seconds (I know because I own a pair of their factory seconds). Check the inside of the shoes near the sizing info for a "B" written somewhere on one of the shoes. This stands for "B-Grade", EGs name for factory seconds. On my shoes, it is in the right shoe above the sizing info. If there is one, these are factory seconds regardless of what you were told by the seller. It seems pretty likely to me, if the above is true, that the seller bought a pair of B-Grades and lied to you about the origin of these shoes. I can't say for sure because I have no idea how they were advertised to you, but it would certainly make a lot more sense for these to be factory seconds than a pair of MTOs being delivered in a B-Grade box, without shoe bags, and with obvious quality control issues that that customer never reported to Edward Green. Also, Kirby Allison is no doubt pretentious and annoying with a boring sense of style as well as a penchant for stupid grandiose statements, but that all has absolutely nothing to do with these shoes or the company that made them. It's a little unprofessional to include in a product review like this. To be fair to you though, you do say at the end that you are a bit biased when it comes to this company which I suppose is an admission that people should take this review with a grain of salt.

[@MisiuAcademy]

Hello, thanks for watching and your elaborate comment, instead of attacking me because I said some things most people would be upset about. I’m on mobile so hopefully I will make a little sense. First of all, I do agree with the Kirby Allison comment but then again he has 2-300000 people subscribed and the power to influence a lot of them. The way he is defending or promoting is company is just a plain sellout, which I understand it’s his business. I also mentioned that this is my opinion and nobody should take this like my word is law obviously. I said that if you like the aesthetics, these are decent shoes. Regardless if these shoes end up B Grades or whatever, my opinion on EG would not change. They are overpriced and I can buy better. Plus, it’s not my taste or style which is strictly personal, but applicable to people that prefer the souther European style aesthetically. Now, this is not the first time I see EG pushing out shoes not worthy of being firsts. For example check out this post: instagram.com/p/CK5dCJHlU1i/? The more I dig around, the more I realize that the seller might have indeed lied to me even though he fiercely refuses it and just says he used a previous box or something. I mean, imagine buying such shoes and not getting shoe bags. I currently cannot check if the shoes have the B indication because all my belongings are packed as I’m moving to Italy (I’m studying bespoke shoemaking) but I will put it on the list. I have no problem about the monetary issue and the seller not accepting a return in this case as I cannot be bothered arguing about it with him or my bank but the fact is that EG for me (keyword: me) does not give me the fizz, any warm feeling or sense of excitement. I look for that in my shoes these days. Thanks for reading and having a healthy discussion with me, but also giving me some tips on what to look at. Best, Kostas

[@amphibian200]

​@@MisiuAcademy Yeah, I mean I really do not like Kirby Allison. I don't have a problem with you saying bad things about him, it just doesn't seem to fit with the product review purpose of the video and makes the review seem perhaps more unfair or biased than you mean it to be. When it comes to aesthetics, you are well within your rights to say everything you said in the video. I have no problems with any of that. I personally am not a fan of southern European style shoes, but I know when I come to your channel that you are so I would never hold that against you. The points you are making about quality control issues though I think are not really properly substantiated enough to make as strong a statement as you are making about it. Everything I have heard about Edward Green from people who have bought from them is that if your shoe has any quality control issues they will bend over backward to fix it. That's one of the defining features of Edward Green that so many people talk about, their excellent customer service. This youtuber (kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKKyn558lrugoKc) for instance, bought a pair of EGs from a third party severely discounted because they were missing the sock liner and Edward Green sent him a replacement sock liner for free and walked him through the process of gluing it in place. Now the youtuber here is also gushing about EGs too much in a way that I am sure you would find annoying because he obviously isn't really aware of what else is out there in high end shoes but the point is that his customer service experience is real and it really is exceptional. This is one of the reasons their shoes are so expensive. I'm certainly not going to try and argue that EGs are good "value for money" but I also wouldn't call them overpriced. They are not really trying to be anything other than a very luxe very traditional English factory made shoe and they are charging a hefty price for it, but you also know that you will be taken care of with them if something goes wrong. I will share my experience with EG quickly as an end point. I bought a pair of B-Grade Galways in Rosewood Country Calf which had a spot on the upper where it looked like acetone or some other industrial solvent had splashed on it and removed some of the patina. I sent an email similar to the above youtuber to their customer support about what could be done to blend this and they put me in touch with someone who gave me a really exceptional lesson on the basics of how to develop a similar patina in that spot and what could be done with the shoe creams I already owned. Today I can't even tell where the spot was on them any more. This is not to say that EG are perfect, but they really do care about their customers and put a lot of effort into that part of their business. I would bet if you asked their customer service team about the scuffing at the heels of your shoes they would at least try to come up with a solution to make it less noticeable even though you bought them through a third party and they really don't have any responsibility to do so. Anyway, take care. Good luck with the channel. I have been subscribed for probably 6 months and have no intention of unsubscribing.

[@MisiuAcademy]

Thank you for sharing all this. I will certainly sit down and read it carefully after I am done packing. You have convinced me to at least contact EG directly and see what they have to say or if they can shed some light on the matter, but I will be the first one to admit and amend any issues that get clarified in my written review. Thank you very much!

[@fretho8410]

Really appreciate the honest review. In essence: Edward Greens are way overpriced. Quality issues at this price point is simply unacceptable. Sadly, it seems like Edward Green has fallen behind the competition, and is only living on its past merits. As for Kirby Allison raving about the quality of EG, his so-called "reviews" are biased at best, more resembling a paid advertisement.

[@MisiuAcademy]

thanks for watching. Many people trying to tell me these are factory seconds and you can spot them by the B in the lining. Mine have no B. I initially reached out to EG who was helpful and very responsive. However I tried to follow up this week and received no response back. If this was a second, I would amend certain remarks I made, but my overall opinion wouldn’t change. I think I’ll just move on.

[@tvaccount6211]

@@MisiuAcademy they dont ‘always’ have a B in the window of the quarter linings, but they do ‘always’ come in that colour box. Firsts will never leave the factory in that darker green box, its a factory shop box 100% Im afraid. Where did you buy them and how much did YOU pay?

[@MisiuAcademy]

Like I mentioned, I am still awaiting a reply from Edward Green themselves. I bought them from a small shop. When I get closure from EG I will either make a follow up video or update the written review. Seconds on not, it doesn’t change my sentiment about them costing too much.

[@tvaccount6211]

@@MisiuAcademy no, obviously we all have our own opinions on costs and value, which is fair enough. Factory shop prices are hugely discounted though. You seem to have the correct information on the box label, so it doesnt appear to have been swapped out. The price youre quoting in your video is for shell cordovan, mink suede is not so much, this is not an MTO pair, it looks quite standard on its standard shape and fitting. By the way, its the travel slipper sole units only that are manufactured in Spain

[@MisiuAcademy]

Thanks for the extra info, I appreciate. Sorry English is not my native tongue, I probably meant to say that a standard pair of EG where I live coats around 1350-1450$ usd. But in any case that’s why I am chasing this to find out if I got scammed and maybe warn someone else, etc. thanks for the tips!