Myenergi Zappi 7kW EV Charger Installation & Testing

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@sasiuru
@sasiuru 3 жыл бұрын
Did you notice that house smiles when there is no imported energy from grid. Otherwise it is a sad house. ;)
@EEVblog2
@EEVblog2 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't notice that, nice!
@sasiuru
@sasiuru 3 жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog2 Zappi has small nice things like that. It is a small(ish) company and there is still space for a quirks like that.
@Kris_M
@Kris_M 3 жыл бұрын
@@sasiuru Totally love it, should be legally mandated to have things like that 😁
@TheWalkmanBlog
@TheWalkmanBlog 3 жыл бұрын
honestly the best part of the charger is this little smiling house.
@Okurkaarrgghh
@Okurkaarrgghh 3 жыл бұрын
Dave pays extra for guaranteed 100% renewable electricity so the house should always smile.
@DamienWise
@DamienWise 3 жыл бұрын
I take my hat off to whoever worked on the UI for this system. There's some nice touches such as the size of the arrows and "Hrrm" or "Smile" face in the house icon. Subtle, but it helps you interpret what's happening.
@sandalcandal281
@sandalcandal281 3 жыл бұрын
10% PWM -> 6A is the minimum valid PWM signal for standard AC charging. 4.5% to 5.5% is used to indicate digital communication is to be used i.e. for DC fast charging protocols. 9.5% to 96.5% is the full valid range for J1772 PWM AC charging signalling. Values apart from two aforementioned ranges are error/inactive states.
@gelu88
@gelu88 3 жыл бұрын
I have to imagine you can set it to turn off charging if there is less than 10% available from solar.
@xureality
@xureality 3 жыл бұрын
@@gelu88 Dave mentions near the end of the video that the Zappi goes to "Waiting for Supply" mode (stops charging) when there's not enough solar
@6Diego1Diego9
@6Diego1Diego9 3 жыл бұрын
But what does it all mean Basil?
@cjaycdr
@cjaycdr 3 жыл бұрын
Simply put: if you set the Zappi to 100% solar, it will require at least 6A or 1.4 kW for 230v systems in order to do any charging. If there’s not enough surplus (so less than 6A available), the Zappi will stop charging. Also note that for 3-phase models the Exo mode charging is a single-phase action. So the EVSE will set to single phase in Exo+ mode charging. Mind you: even for the Eco+ mode you can go into settings and choose how much Solar versus Grid should be used for the Eco+ mode charging.
@gigaherz_
@gigaherz_ 3 жыл бұрын
The music in indeed the "victory fanfare" from final fantasy games. It plays on most of the games when you win a battle.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 3 жыл бұрын
Is it used on anything else? Because I know it, yet have never played final fantasy.
@gigaherz_
@gigaherz_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog I'm certain plenty of things play it, but I couldn't possibly remember any specific device... >_
@stevengwilliam8096
@stevengwilliam8096 3 жыл бұрын
My Zappi V2 was installed at the start of last week and I have a 6kW 2 string solar system going up in 2 weeks so I will be in the same position. Apart from I am rapidly approaching winter in "The Old Dart" and so I may have to wait a number of months until I can make use of the Eco+ modes. The built in boost timer is great for using my suppliers overnight cheap rate tariff though and the Zappi is working like a dream for that.
@EEVblog2
@EEVblog2 3 жыл бұрын
I just have a fixed rate 24/7.
@stevengwilliam8096
@stevengwilliam8096 3 жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog2 We have a few suppliers here that offer a night time EV specific tariff. My rates are 15.64 pence per kWh normal rate and then 5 pence per kWh between 00:30 and 04:30. But it is interesting now as the battery storage solution and payback is much more compelling if you can charge the battery during the cheap 4 hours and discharge at the other times. In fact it has got to the point, on those tariffs, it could be better value to buy a battery rather than install solar. Interesting stuff. Here is a question for you Dave. One of your roof systems use the Enphase invertors. It would be interesting to understand how they all stay in phase with each other. What are the physics of how all the micro-invertors stay in sync with the mains supply and each other?
@stevehurcombe
@stevehurcombe 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevengwilliam8096 I was thinking the same thing, how does the grid tied process work. Also how will Vehicle to Grid CCS work? Inverter in the car, or house?
@NiHaoMike64
@NiHaoMike64 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevehurcombe A simple way is more or less an active PFC running in reverse, supplying rather than drawing current.
@robertbox5399
@robertbox5399 3 жыл бұрын
You have huge homes, sun, garages, drives... In the UK we're lucky if we can park within 100ft of our house and there is one lamp-post charger at the spot where the vandals hang out each end of the street. We drove 250 miles in my Civic the other day in 4 hours. What would that be in a similar priced EV? It was a work trip so time mattered. The train was £600 each.
@electriccarcafeatevolution4319
@electriccarcafeatevolution4319 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Dave.. and a very neat installation. It should be no surprise that we love the Zappi too.. Let us know when you want to give the Myenergi hub a go!
@JohnnyMotel99
@JohnnyMotel99 3 жыл бұрын
I was reading just the other day, that here in the UK, new houses are starting to be fitted with 3 phase. All in preparation for car chargers.
@mikeselectricstuff
@mikeselectricstuff 3 жыл бұрын
..and heat pumps
@SomeMorganSomewhere
@SomeMorganSomewhere 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikeselectricstuff Yeesh, that's quite the heat pump, we've two including a big multi-split (three others coming soon, plus a small heatpump hot water service) in this house and we're only single phase ;)
@E69apeTheMatrix420
@E69apeTheMatrix420 3 жыл бұрын
They simply WONT fit all new builds with 3 phase. To put it simply. The grid can't handle it! Using normal 240v 32A you can charge and electric car in less than 8 hours and every single person who lives in a house spends longer than that every day sleeping.
@JohnnyMotel99
@JohnnyMotel99 3 жыл бұрын
@@E69apeTheMatrix420 I guess not EVERY new build will get 3 phase, but some will. At some point, the uk grid will have to be upgraded if more folk buy EV’s.
@E69apeTheMatrix420
@E69apeTheMatrix420 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyMotel99 what are you on about? Why and how will it have to be 3 phase?! Your brain is so small! You can charge any and every electric car in less than 8 hours and that is the very least amount if time anyone with a house is asleep for inside it. So if your inside your house for 8 hours sleeping and your car is charging for 8 hours until its fully charged. Why will we have 3 phase at home? To dumb it down enough for you: It won't happen! It will cost too much! It's a ridiculous idea! You would have to dig up every single road and pavement in the country. Your education and thought process is extremely limited and I no longer have enough time to waste telling you. It will not happen! I don't car what tv programme you watch whilst being spoon fed in your pushchair. 3 phase in houses is not a thing and it never will be. Fool!
@bluelightningnz
@bluelightningnz 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, but with that knock sensor you missed a chance for "Hello? Anybody home? Think McFly, Think!"
@JonTheBrush
@JonTheBrush 3 жыл бұрын
You also need a ct clamp on the PV array and then it will tell you what is being generated by it as well
@kanoeist0
@kanoeist0 3 жыл бұрын
I had a zappi fitted last week and I feel the mobile app needs a shout out too. Really easy to understand and clear information on all the settings. Cheers for the walk though
@SupremeRuleroftheWorld
@SupremeRuleroftheWorld 3 жыл бұрын
the minium 10% is to conform to minimum you can send to the car, the protocol does not support lower then 10% so onboard chargers can fault out below that.
@redsquirrelftw
@redsquirrelftw 3 жыл бұрын
That's a pretty neat setup to maximize usage of solar. As a side note, a fundamentals video on how current transformers work and how to make and implement them in projects (AC and DC) would be pretty nice if it has not been done already.
@holladiewal6812
@holladiewal6812 3 жыл бұрын
There is a setting within the menu where you can set the minimum "green" energy to use in eco++ mode. If you dial it up to 100% it will stop using grid energy should solar excess drop below 1.4kW (minimum charge allowed by the standard, hence the 10% minimum on the PWM). If you want to allow the zappi to keep at minimum charge with the grid import, you can then always use eco+ mode. There is actually a lot you can configure on these zappis, especially when you start having more than on CT connected, like Solar generation and even monitor input/output of a battery.
@TonyJewell0
@TonyJewell0 3 жыл бұрын
That is a very cool piece of kit. Thanks for taking the time to document.
@KeritechElectronics
@KeritechElectronics 3 жыл бұрын
Nice tandem, looks like the manufacturer actually thought about the users who wanted to integrate the solar panels & inverter with the car charging station. I also like the heavy duty power connectors you have down there - here in the EU we've got a different standard (CEE connectors a.k.a. commando plugs & sockets) and they're also very practical, but take a lot more space.
@EEVblog2
@EEVblog2 3 жыл бұрын
These ones are pretty huge.
@frollard
@frollard 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much of a pain it would be to implement hvdc 'fast' charging from a solar charge controller - since it's already natively DC the boost/buck is surely easier to dc than an ac inverter to ac onboard charger.
@han5vk
@han5vk 3 жыл бұрын
Zappi is a great fucking name.
@M0LHA
@M0LHA 3 жыл бұрын
Ah that's surprising, I wasn't expecting to see a UK myEnergi EVSE appear in aus! That's a very well travelled charger ;) I've had gen one for about four years now, it's been pretty rock solid - only real issue I had was the UV damaged the front panel. There is one thing you need to keep on top of, keeping the firmware up to date. If you don't keep both the hub and the zappi (and any other accessories up to date) you risk your EVSE becoming incompatible with the myEnergi apis - this happened to me and I had to get a warranty replacement. This is probably OK for your audience, but I could imagine joe six pack just leaving it as stock only to find the app stops working a few years down the line. In theory easily fixed with an auto update feature. Only other comment is why did they go wit 868mhz RF for comms rather than just using good old fashioned WIFI? seems like an extra hurdle to have a dedicated hub rather than using tried and true wifi?
@EEVblog2
@EEVblog2 3 жыл бұрын
I don't have a hub, so should be no reason to update the firmware for a standalone unit.
@EEVblog2
@EEVblog2 3 жыл бұрын
WiFi uses too much power, so you wouldn't be able to use energy harvesting to power the Harvi
@M0LHA
@M0LHA 3 жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog2 I’d wondered if it had something to do with the Harvi’s harvesting, that said I have quite a few ESP based sensors that Ping back events and updates - they just use a button call and last for months without a top up, I’d be curious to see how long they’d last with a minor top up from something similar
@IanPowell1985
@IanPowell1985 3 жыл бұрын
wow, Thats some good monitoring. Zappi for the win.
@peterbonham5540
@peterbonham5540 3 жыл бұрын
I assume this is to charge the Sinclair
@kgsalvage6306
@kgsalvage6306 3 жыл бұрын
Technology is very cool! Amazing all the information it gives you. Very nice display.
@TobyRobb
@TobyRobb 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! This looks really useful, I can't wait till I get my first electric car. I'll be getting something like this and I've got the solar to back it up as well!
@djlorenz11
@djlorenz11 3 жыл бұрын
Lot of data for a tiny display… would be nice to have it extracted to home automation systems instead on only local, weird it doesn’t have an Ethernet or Wi-Fi connection
@AdrianTripp
@AdrianTripp 3 жыл бұрын
Any reason you went with a 32A socket outlet and captive plug instead of just hardwiring the Zappi through an isolator switch?
@EEVblog2
@EEVblog2 3 жыл бұрын
a) I like being able to disconnect it. b) An electrican was already there doing a garage makeover last week, so it was convenient to just get him to add it then. c) It gives me a 32A socket so I can possibly use other high powered things if needed. d) It gives me the ability to experiment with other EV chargers like the Open EVSE.
@AdrianTripp
@AdrianTripp 3 жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog2 Makes perfect sense!
@thunderb00m
@thunderb00m 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who has to debug electronics as part of my job, it's always better to add a plug than hardwire something unless you are trying to save on cost or weight. Makes repair and reconfiguration so much simpler. I don't know how the ethernet is hooked up but I would have used a socket and plug for that as well.
@EEVblog2
@EEVblog2 3 жыл бұрын
@@thunderb00m It's not ethernet, just cat5 cable for the CT
@frollard
@frollard 3 жыл бұрын
Also good for some installations where you plan to move and take the charger with you - value add on the house to say 'ev ready plug' without locking them into a brand or appliance.
@Rok_Satanas
@Rok_Satanas 3 жыл бұрын
I gotta say, the Australian 3 phase connector is the most beautiful connector I've seen.
@ulwur
@ulwur 3 жыл бұрын
It's nice with that clear part. I do wonder about UV durability as such things are often used outdoors and clear plastic degrades in the sun.
@EEVblog2
@EEVblog2 3 жыл бұрын
@@ulwur You can get non-clear ones.
@ArthursHD
@ArthursHD 3 жыл бұрын
It's a single phase. Single-phase 32 Amp 3 round pin angle plug 56pa332 3 phase connector would have more conductors.
@SomeMorganSomewhere
@SomeMorganSomewhere 3 жыл бұрын
@@ulwur IME they don't degrade much in the sun, I've seen them installed for decades, look pretty much like new, perhaps a little less glossy, occasionally a bit of yellowing but the plastic is about 5mm thick at the thinnest part so even if the outer degrades a bit it's not going to impact the structure of the plug.
@SomeMorganSomewhere
@SomeMorganSomewhere 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArthursHD Still the same form-factor as our three-phase plugs, just more pins on the plug top.
@volvo245glt
@volvo245glt 3 жыл бұрын
Nice installation! 😀 But a single phase unit!? 😱🙈 I also wouldn't go with a fixed cable that will be susceptible to wear and can't be extended if necessary. Also only wired ethernet? Good I suppose, if you don't mind the extra cabling... We use an Easee wall box. It's small, 3-phase 22 kW, has built-in free 4G connection (plus wifi too) and it's also amongst the cheaper wall boxes. Made in Norway I think. Very happy with it, especially since it enables "smart charging" when prices are low - usually during nighttime.
@EEVblog2
@EEVblog2 3 жыл бұрын
My house and my car are only single phase, no choice. It's not Ethernet network, it's just CAT5 cable for the twisted pair CT.
@Mr.Unacceptable
@Mr.Unacceptable 3 жыл бұрын
That should make a really nice warm spider home.
@EEVblog2
@EEVblog2 3 жыл бұрын
Those rare IP rated spiders
@PERILEX
@PERILEX 3 жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog2 Not even IP68 rated devices are save from _bugs_ . ;)
@sharpx777
@sharpx777 3 жыл бұрын
this is cool - but please peel the darn plastic sticker off the display 🙄
@Fake_Blood
@Fake_Blood 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be slightly worried about the car's charger and battery because of the changing load current. It's probably fine though. Is there and eco+ mode where it's less aggressive with the ramp up and down?
@EEVblog2
@EEVblog2 3 жыл бұрын
There is normal Eco mode, but I haven't looked into that yet.
@thedevilcomes2011
@thedevilcomes2011 3 жыл бұрын
How come the EV went from 21% to 19% while charging? or was it a case of video magic that you were recording after using the EV some more??
@EEVblog2
@EEVblog2 3 жыл бұрын
Some stuff was edited out of time order, some shot in the morning, some in the afternoon. But I did take the car out during the day, so it could be that.
@jort93z
@jort93z 3 жыл бұрын
I am really impressed by how precise the tracking is.
@EEVblog2
@EEVblog2 3 жыл бұрын
I was quite amazed! Although the graph doesn't have much resolution, it's probably +/- 10's of watts maybe.
@PlanetCypher_
@PlanetCypher_ 3 жыл бұрын
10% pwm or 6Amp is the lowest charge as per the SAE standard about 1.4KW
@aaax9410
@aaax9410 3 жыл бұрын
Looks pretty good Dave
@philpearce3248
@philpearce3248 3 жыл бұрын
How about a design for a portable charging station, the EV's spare petrol can.
@TradieTrev
@TradieTrev 3 жыл бұрын
Uh Dave that ethernet is rough as, surely a stick of conduit mate!!
@EEVblog2
@EEVblog2 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, she'll be right.
@moestrei
@moestrei 3 жыл бұрын
Straya, mate.
@dawn1berlitz
@dawn1berlitz 3 жыл бұрын
the sound to me sounds like the ff victory fanfare
@notsonominal
@notsonominal 3 жыл бұрын
Strange it showed 10% and 5A - it should be minimum 6A at 10%. Also, you said sample rate of 1s - i think the car samples a lot faster as it has a rather short deadline to comply with the pilot (fraction of a second).
@hillppari
@hillppari 3 жыл бұрын
As european these weird electrics from across the world never cease to amaze me. thicc single phase must be expsive compared to 3phase, Copper is not cheap.
@d3wy
@d3wy 3 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on the OpenEVSE?
@Seegalgalguntijak
@Seegalgalguntijak 3 жыл бұрын
If I understand it correctly that the PWM is to communicate the charge rate to the EV, then it can't be lower than that which corresponds 1.2kW, because to my knowledge, that's the smallest charge rate those EVs can charge at. You can't just feed it 70W of power and expect it to be charged in a couple of weeks or months ;)
@Seegalgalguntijak
@Seegalgalguntijak 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, you said that.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 3 жыл бұрын
That would be nice though.
@Seegalgalguntijak
@Seegalgalguntijak 3 жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog Probably too much loss in the components when they run at 1% or less of what they've been designed for (this is a layman's guess, I have nothing to do with electronics engineering, call me a hobbyist at most)
@Rob2
@Rob2 3 жыл бұрын
Current Clamps Galore behind the EEVblog switchboard....
@bartomiej368
@bartomiej368 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how that modulation of charging power impact battery lifespan.
@teardowndan5364
@teardowndan5364 3 жыл бұрын
Whatever impact slow-charging at a random 1.2-7.2kW may have, I'm certain it is way less than the random 3kW to 200kW load swings while driving.
@NiHaoMike64
@NiHaoMike64 3 жыл бұрын
Lower current would reduce the battery heating and increase lifetime, but the charge rate is already low enough that it won't make a significant difference.
@moestrei
@moestrei 3 жыл бұрын
Variation of charge rate has zero impact on the battery. 7kW is a gentle charge rate for a 38kWh (Assuming Dave has the Ioniq face lift) Lithium battery in any case.
@gwc1410
@gwc1410 3 жыл бұрын
Why do your bricks have black splotches all over them?
@tgfcujhb7583
@tgfcujhb7583 3 жыл бұрын
Solar panels to inverter to transformer to rectifier, seems inefficient. 😁👍👍
@EEVblog2
@EEVblog2 3 жыл бұрын
Practicality always wins out.
@NiHaoMike64
@NiHaoMike64 3 жыл бұрын
Could have used a Solaredge combined solar inverter and EV charger, but replacing a perfectly good existing inverter isn't very economical.
@teardowndan5364
@teardowndan5364 3 жыл бұрын
@@NiHaoMike64 Dave's new panels use per-panel micro-inverters, so combining inverters with anything else isn't an option, everything has to "talk" AC.
@NiHaoMike64
@NiHaoMike64 3 жыл бұрын
@@teardowndan5364 Old array is still using a string inverter, that still works so why change it? Also, with the new array, there's the option of using optimizers rather than microinverters. I wonder why we don't see more 2 or 4 input microinverters and optimizers, that can reduce costs while still allowing for per panel MPPT.
@TheLaurentDupuis
@TheLaurentDupuis 3 жыл бұрын
This power plug looks like a bastarded IEC 60309. Weird. Why is transparent? Is that IP44?
@mikeselectricstuff
@mikeselectricstuff 3 жыл бұрын
Transparent plugs are sometimes specified so they can be inspected easily.
@SomeMorganSomewhere
@SomeMorganSomewhere 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikeselectricstuff Yeah, 90+% of plugs in this form-factor in Australia are clear so you can see how they're wired. The plug/socket combos are either IP56 or IP66 rated. No idea if it's actually based on IEC 60309 or if it's something Clipsal cooked up themselves but it's been the defacto standard for high-current single phase and three phase connectors in Australia pretty much forever.
@UpLateGeek
@UpLateGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Good thing you didn't terminate that cat6 cable with RJ45s, wouldn't want to risk burning your house down since you're not a certified data cabler.
@roboman2444
@roboman2444 3 жыл бұрын
Does it have a feature where if the car is not charged by sunset, it automatically starts to draw more from the grid to make sure the car is charged before the next morning? An overcast day will probably not charge the car much.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 3 жыл бұрын
It has a "boost" mode and various timer based settings that might be able to do that. Not sure though.
@moestrei
@moestrei 3 жыл бұрын
Eco ++ charges the car on excess solar only.
@SimonEllwood
@SimonEllwood 3 жыл бұрын
@@moestrei You can have a boost timer set in Eco plus mode. I run mine that way.
@moestrei
@moestrei 3 жыл бұрын
@@SimonEllwood Great, thanks. I made my own EVSE which is controlled by a mix of house battery SOC (I'm off grid solar) and available solar input.
@mikescott58
@mikescott58 3 жыл бұрын
10% is the minimum defined in the standard and is used by Tesla to identify a SuperCharger (5% D/C). This tells a Tesla it's connected to a SuperCharger and will switch to their digital protocol to identify the car for billing.
@moestrei
@moestrei 3 жыл бұрын
The Type 2 protocol was developed by German company Mennekes and is used by all EV (or Type 1, different connector, same protocol) incl. Tesla. The SuC billing is done by the car's MCU over 3G or 4G networks and not by the SuC. Non Teslas on SuC do the billing via smart phone and Tesla app (where available).
@Pugjamin
@Pugjamin 3 жыл бұрын
Out of interest, why did you wire to a plug rather than hard wired?
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 3 жыл бұрын
a) I like being able to disconnect it. b) An electrican was already there doing a garage makeover last week, so it was convenient to just get him to add it then. c) It gives me a 32A socket so I can possibly use other high powered things if needed. d) It gives me the ability to experiment with other EV chargers like the Open EVSE.
@Cleofizoid
@Cleofizoid 3 жыл бұрын
No batteries?
@gregalss
@gregalss 3 жыл бұрын
Sparkey Dave
@XynxNet
@XynxNet 3 жыл бұрын
Never really thought about the charger electronics, so I am a bit surprised it looks so empty and basic.
@Okurkaarrgghh
@Okurkaarrgghh 3 жыл бұрын
The charger is in the car.
@XynxNet
@XynxNet 3 жыл бұрын
@@Okurkaarrgghh Oh ok. Missed that.
@Xuzyy
@Xuzyy 3 жыл бұрын
Great, I just have a small personal question on the australian 3-phase plug, it seems your 3-phase outlet only has 3 pins for the 3 phases at which voltage is that outlet 240V? Or something different? Also here in Italy the 3-phase outlet has 5 pins, neutral and earth added, am I losing something along the way on why your australian one doesn’t have the 2 extra pins? Edit: or maybe I am confusing myself and that is a single phase outlet, with 3 pins:live neutral earth
@EEVblog2
@EEVblog2 3 жыл бұрын
This is a the 3 pin single phase variant. The extra two pins for the other two phases aren't fitted. See my main channel video for a close up look at the connector.
@Xuzyy
@Xuzyy 3 жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog2 ja thanks, I think I wasn't paying enough attention where you explain that, anyway cool thing to have in your house when paired to a solar system installation
@_BangDroid_
@_BangDroid_ 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not understanding how the electricity is being selected from grid/solar.
@thunderb00m
@thunderb00m 3 жыл бұрын
If I had to guess this is just connected to the house supply and then senses the current from the solar supply and the grid supply to the main junction box. Then switches on or off based on those sensor value. It's constantly readjusting energy out to reduce grid load. The same could probably work for a heater or any other appliance I suppose, just turn it off when theres shade, turn it on there's sun. Makes sense ?
@redsquirrelftw
@redsquirrelftw 3 жыл бұрын
From my understanding he has grid tie system so technically it's all coming from the house's electrical grid connected system like it normally would but it tracks how much power that the solar is producing and would be putting into the grid and tries to match it so that the power is going towards charging instead.
@_BangDroid_
@_BangDroid_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@redsquirrelftw That makes sense Red
@SomeMorganSomewhere
@SomeMorganSomewhere 3 жыл бұрын
@@redsquirrelftw Pretty much, the EVSE monitors the feed from the grid, when it sees negative current it knows you're exporting power so it turns on the feed to the EV and modulates it to keep the grid export as close to zero as possible.
@eimparas
@eimparas 3 жыл бұрын
Artisan Electrics wants to know your location :D
@oninbridders
@oninbridders 3 жыл бұрын
A knock detector or a secret IoT microphone?
@EEVblog2
@EEVblog2 3 жыл бұрын
I deliberately didn't buy the networking module... Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you...
@ncot_tech
@ncot_tech 3 жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog2 My PodPoint is wifi enabled and it's pretty useless - I can see my charging history in an app. That's it. I can't get real-time data out the thing or do anything apart from program a time for when charging should happen or stop.
@Ulrich_Rudenz
@Ulrich_Rudenz 3 жыл бұрын
I like the plug that you use to connect it to the wall. I think in europe we do not have one phase 32A plugs or at least i could not find them. It seems, that 16A is the maximum with one phase here.
@EEVblog2
@EEVblog2 3 жыл бұрын
I think the 3 phase (5 pin) might be slightly more common here, but the electrician said he install's a ton of the single phase ones in homes, as 3 phase isn't really a thing here in homes. Some EV owners install a 5 pin 3 phases anyway even if they only have a single phase so they can take their EVSE with them and use industrial 3 phase outlets.
@EnricoConca
@EnricoConca 3 жыл бұрын
Industrial plugs are available in a single phase 32A variant, but it isn't very common.
@jensageholm8774
@jensageholm8774 3 жыл бұрын
I do not know where you live but the Danish code says that one consumer can never be more than 16A single-phase (maybe only in a domestic setting?). If you need more you need to go to 3-phase. I also applies to solar inverter that produces electricity. The old incentive program in Denmark allowed for max. 6 kW systems - a lot of people installed 2x 3 kW inverters for that reason. My parents installed a 3,6 kW inverter with 4 kW panels connected - the former to stay within the 16A max.
@Richardincancale
@Richardincancale 3 жыл бұрын
It’s called a 32 amp Commando socket in Europe - you can buy them in electrical stores or online in the usual places
@frollard
@frollard 3 жыл бұрын
Total grain of salt: I'm lead to believe from a 'smart person' on a forum regarding charging: It's good to charge slowly to a point, below a certain point the efficiency loss of running the carputer/charger outweighs the benefit of throwing the last electrons at the lithium...so there is a minimum viable charge rate. Another post (again, forever ago, pound of salt) someone mentioned that li-ion chemistry doesn't like obscenely low trickle charging because . For the sake of minimum 10% on the pilot signal, perhaps that's when it is no longer robust enough over long noisy cables to be accurate?
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 3 жыл бұрын
10% defined in the standard apparently.
@robertbox5399
@robertbox5399 3 жыл бұрын
I hate those lower case g's that stick up in the air though LoL
@mprebbz
@mprebbz 3 жыл бұрын
Was anyone else disappointed that the Ethernet cable wasn’t actually for Ethernet?
@Fake_Blood
@Fake_Blood 3 жыл бұрын
Oh la di da. I've got it from a good source that it's "car hole" and not "garage".
@TheWibob1234
@TheWibob1234 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure what your solar system looks like but I bet if you add a few batteries to it you could make the entire charge system self sustainable.
@Junkman444
@Junkman444 3 жыл бұрын
If these charges where smart they would ask "when" you want a full (or even a percentage) charge by (7 am?) and figure it out.
@BluJFPV
@BluJFPV 3 жыл бұрын
On my EV I can configure that in the car itself.
@ncot_tech
@ncot_tech 3 жыл бұрын
Wish my car showed charging and capacity in kWh instead of the stupid "miles per hour" that it uses. Also there's more current clamps than actual connectors in your electrical box now 😂
3 жыл бұрын
Dave, I was looking for those current measurement sensors for a DIY project, but I failed to find... Could you please send me the manufacturers and types of those little bastards? 😁
@jurabondarchook2494
@jurabondarchook2494 3 жыл бұрын
On one hand this is cool to charge your car from solar only. On other, it is not very practical for your average user. If you need to go to work every day, car will never be at home during the day. It might catch some sun in the morning or evening depending on season and weather but this is probably not enough and not reliable. So you have to charge it over night because you need to go to work next morning.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 3 жыл бұрын
Sure, use whatever works for you. This suits my usage scenario.
@moestrei
@moestrei 3 жыл бұрын
I have an electric motorcycle which charges until 10:00AM and I use it for my daily trips into town. The Tesla then gets the rest of the solar excess which is 50-80km / daily on a 5kWp off-grid system.
@jtb2586
@jtb2586 3 жыл бұрын
8:29 Dave keeps saying ECO ++, am i blind or does it just say ECO +?
@wobblysauce
@wobblysauce 3 жыл бұрын
The extra symbols.
@sasiuru
@sasiuru 3 жыл бұрын
ECO+ with one leaf will use mixed solar + grid energy. ECO+ with two leaf symbols tries to do the charge entirely from solar, but can be configured to take x% of energy from grid to keep charging if solar won't supply enough. Or so I have understood from manuals... I might have understood incorrectly (as english isn't my native language and manuals are in english).
@ArthursHD
@ArthursHD 3 жыл бұрын
ECO+🍃🍃
@Wintersky136
@Wintersky136 3 жыл бұрын
4:40 and the wodden plate installs again… it‘s just bad…
@Okurkaarrgghh
@Okurkaarrgghh 3 жыл бұрын
It's phenolic material.
@Wintersky136
@Wintersky136 3 жыл бұрын
@@Okurkaarrgghh even worse!
@SomeMorganSomewhere
@SomeMorganSomewhere 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wintersky136 Back in the "good old days" it'd be asbestos cement sheet.
@jtb2586
@jtb2586 3 жыл бұрын
0:20 What a weird connector
@nattybyrne
@nattybyrne 3 жыл бұрын
3 phrase plug
@EEVblog2
@EEVblog2 3 жыл бұрын
AS/NZS 3123
@lazerusmfh
@lazerusmfh 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer my 18kw Tesla charger ;)
@FennecTECH
@FennecTECH 3 жыл бұрын
**REMOVE THE DAMN CLING FILM**. NOOOOO YOU DID IT WITHOUT EVEN LETTING US SEEEEEE. REEEEEEEEEEEE
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 3 жыл бұрын
Done DELIBERATELY :-P
@FennecTECH
@FennecTECH 3 жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog HOW COULD YOU UNSUBSCRIBE (jk)
@nattybyrne
@nattybyrne 3 жыл бұрын
nothing went bang!
@Okurkaarrgghh
@Okurkaarrgghh 3 жыл бұрын
What's all the shit on the wall?
@FastLoad
@FastLoad 3 жыл бұрын
That's the Zelda win jingle...
@Wintersky136
@Wintersky136 3 жыл бұрын
How to tell that you life in a post-british country… everything has conduit, a switch and a shitty outlet…
@mathbc1984
@mathbc1984 3 жыл бұрын
0:15 Ethernet cable Ethernet is way faster (cat 6 and cat 7) that can use 10 GB/SEC. Ethernet cable is way safer and private then WIFI. Wifi is just like a convenience store.
@EEVblog2
@EEVblog2 3 жыл бұрын
This is NOT ethernet.
@mathbc1984
@mathbc1984 3 жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog2 0:15 I have even put the subtitle and you have put a Ethernet cable and you want to install a second one. Better to say electric cable. 220v .Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear EEVlog2. lol . 4:24 By the way, nice tutorial. Winner winner chicken diner !
@SimonEllwood
@SimonEllwood 3 жыл бұрын
@@mathbc1984 It is an Ethernet Cable but just used at 50 Hz for the current transformers. The 4 pairs could allow 4 current clamps.
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