EFAP TV: Reacting to The Mandalorian S03E02 - The Mines of Mandalore

[@CrazyKoenie]

I’m honestly baffled you missed the greatest, smartest, best written, most practical and poetic line; “a mandalorian has to understand maps and know their way around, that way you’ll never be lost”. That’s next level quality writing imo. Hemingway pales in comparison

[@Zed012]

“A Mandalorian must learn to breathe, so he does not pass out.”

[@Deadsnake989]

Even though I know your last sentence is clearly a joke. It still made me irrationally furious reading it.

[@Alfa-ze3ns]

Not to defend the writing of the show (because it’s really poor) but he’s talking to a fucking infant

[@BigPhatMan]

Sounds like a major "Confucius says" moment.

[@petriew2018]

is that why they all seem to blunder blindly around until someone drops a fetch quest in their lap?

[@logicius]

"You committed the worst sins and blasphemy imaginable!" - "How may I atone for my sins?" "Go in a small swimming pool for a few seconds." - "This is the way." WeEeEeWoOoOoOoOoOo!

[@mantha6912]

you forgot to add that the sin was taking off his helmet to save someone's life lol

[@dodojesus4529]

Its such a pathetic punishment, if mandalore was still intact it would be a minor inconvienience. There definetly were teens fucking about and ignoring the cosequences by swimming

[@bijibadness]

aw. nice profile picture. heartwarming, even.

[@ArcticWolf00Alpha0]

I would like to point out that Lukes X-wing, before even landing on Dagobah was able to scan the planet and concluded that A) There was no signs of cities or technology and B) that the life form readings were massive. This was a simple starfighter by the way... so the N-1 which is also a simple starfighter should have no problem verifying a planets breathing quality... c'mon now...

[@Cobruh_Commander]

Maybe it was because of the storms? That's what I guessed, I'm not sure.

[@karoka7272]

I actually have no problem with starfighter, especially this particular second-hand one, not being outfitted properly - it came from crazy good for nothing mechanic lady, what do you expect (also, not sure if fair to compare to x-wing, which was far newer model (at least going by movie chronology)). As it stands, state of this ship and continous usage of it is just a testament to Mando's stupidity, as if we needed more.

[@ArcticWolf00Alpha0]

@@karoka7272 Fair enough. Im more so just thrown off because you would think that a computers ability to scan a planets atmosphere would be pretty common in this universe even for a civilian star ship. Its the equivalent to having a phone that cant tell you a countries population even if you googled it.

[@pezdispencer113]

X-wings are more advanced than Naboo starfighters. Still confused about the Naboo starfighters having hyperdrive and it actually being usable without an astromech droid though. Could have sworn the droid was there for those calculations and maintenance on the fly.

[@patchmoulton5438]

@@pezdispencer113 Tbf, N-1s had hyperdrives as far back as the Starfighter game. Still needed an astromech to actually navigate hyperspace tho.

[@omarimus2260]

I still can't believe the entire conflict of the first episode was that some guy wasn't allowed to drink in a school

[@VespoLiveGaming]

The scene was "good guy with a gun stops school shooting incident"- it's a statement about the virtues of the second amendment

[@Right_Said_Brett]

That was a hilariously bad scene. Why would the pirates even want to drink in the school? Can you imagine the tough guys sat in a classroom, surrounded by toddlers, getting drunk. It's not exactly a badass thing to be doing, is it? They would look ridiculous.

[@hh-dm6cp]

“No! Your not allowed to smoke in the nursery!”

[@UnendedGalaxy]

I don’t have a hard time believing that someone wrote that. It’s clear that everyone in the writing room has run out of ideas.

[@rynobehnke8289]

I mean I get the idea the classical "Criminal tries to use violence to uphold the him benefiting pro-Crime society to fight against a cities attempt to become less of a shithole" troupe. But the way it was executed was just hilariously bad.

[@robertwhite9889]

Mando: "Go get Bo Katarn" to Grogu Grogu shows back up with Bo Katarn Mando "Bo Katarn how did you get here?" Fucking great writing.

[@Zed012]

I would have liked for the showrunners to give Baby Yoda an Orson Welles-type force voice he can use to “speak” to people when they ask him questions.

[@ggrarl]

​@@Zed012 "Yes, always."

[@bearistotle2820]

​@@ggrarl For some reason I read this not as an Orson Welles type voice but as a skaven voice, and now I have the image in my head of Grogu talking like a skaven. "I WILL EAT-CONSUME ALL OF THIS GECKO'S EGG-SPAWN!"

[@evernight1405]

​@@bearistotle2820 I imagine a voice like Patrick Stewart's but he still a baby when he talk.

[@pezdispencer113]

​@@Zed012 better yet, he's like the Scooby doo in Venture Bros, talks about the great purge and really fucked up things to everyone... Except for when Mando is there, then he's just a regular ass baby.

[@Bannschwert]

The funny thing about Mando sinking faster than rocket boosted Bo Katan is, that it finally proofs that Mando is the densest thing in the entire galaxy. Otherwise he wouldn't have sunk that quickly. Also: This is the second time Mando takes off his Jetpack so he can't do something, though in this case it's even shown that Bo Katans Jetpack has no issues with water at all. Though they show that in S2 as well. So I'm not sure if she has the water proof version or all Mandalorian jetpacks are like that.

[@HisNameWasCrazy]

I lmao'd at the start of the next episode when his first words after waking up from this incredibly embarrassing incident are "I have been redeemed!"

[@Bannschwert]

@@HisNameWasCrazy well it doesn't getter better next episode, no. "Well I expected there to be more steps" - "Me too..." - "Too bad I guess?"

[@DraconisMarchVII]

Just lends more to how comically incompetent Din is. Bo Katan just one ups him at every turn.

[@strategicperson95]

I know it's gameplay reasons (also old from before Disney) but in Shadow's of the Empire, Dash Rendar gets a jetpack that is also used when you have go sewer diving in the Coruscant sewers to get into Prince Xizor's castle. And the boss of that level is a giant version of the creature that tried to drown Luke in the trash compactor. Though take it or leave it as it is just gameplay. No such thing happened in the Novel from what I recall.

[@micky6j]

we saw mando swim in season 2 with the fisherman cage trap but the show wanted their shot of the monster in the deep so made mando forget how to swim just to get that shot.

[@horrorclause]

Mando kinda forgot that he was able to swim in full beskar armor back in season 2.

[@rhyscallinan5058]

I think he kinda forgot he could walk.

[@andrewlevin6331]

That was last season, it doesn’t count anymore

[@valentinegonsalves7322]

Episode 01: Giant Crocodile jumps out of baptismal lake. Me: How deep is that lake? All those kids are standing knee deep and none of them can see such a huge creature emerge, let alone how the water would move? Is it just a cliff after knee deep level? Episode 02: Mando is waist deep into the baptismal lake in the mines. Take four steps and disappears. Me: How deep is that lake? Is there a trapdoor? Is it just a cliff after waist level? What the fuck! No sense of scale. I think that genius tech called The Volume is more limiting than freeing. I pine for giant warehouse sets like Andor.

[@eugenekrabs6400]

I like to imagine he’s just so dense he fell 99% of the way to the bottom before he thought “wait a minute… I’m underwater!”

[@SwedetasticGames]

He forgor

[@bZman]

The single most meaningful "this is the way" of the entire show. For once it wasn't about bs like a helmet or armor, but an actual belief like dying to protect your people

[@corruptangel6793]

It reminded me of how, in Legends, it was revealed that the Mandalorians don't have a word for "hero" because they believed that fighting and being willing to die for your clan and fellow Mandalorian was the most basic requirement to be one. They did, however, have a word for "coward," which was considered to be the worst possible insult a Mandalorian could give. That line, used in that context, was one of the few moments that pop up every now and then that remind me of how awesome the Mandalorians once were.

[@NoPantsBaby]

It's amazing how they were handed a cool warrior culture ready made and expanded across hundreds of comics and books. And what they did with is was turn them into space idiots too stupid to even check if their homeworld was actually destroyed or not.

[@Mazra42]

Look left, right, left before crossing the street - this is the way. I before E except after C - this is the way. Wipe front to back - this is the way.

[@macca937]

It only took them 3 seasons

[@Arko777777]

That storm cloud transition is literally a hidden loading screen when you enter Mandalore.

[@ItsGianotti]

Soy movie game ngl

[@karoka7272]

It doesn't even look that good, they'd be better off making cut from ship approaching planet to cockpit view as it descends on it's surface.

[@daskampffredchen]

Thats why he has to land to scan the planet. It isnt loaded until you land

[@Donnie-ei1uw]

"To become a Mandalorian once more...Mando. You must go to the store of grocery, I will text you a list of items required to fill the tomb of fridge. From there, you must acquire a bottle of blue wine. You must offer it to me, and as I taste it for quality. You are to spend the next hour, paying my bills of living. If you have time, you also shall need to venture outside to tow the sacred containers of trash to the sidewalk of Mandalore. Do this before night fall, I can't possibly stress the importance of this. Do these things, and you may call yourself Mandalorian once more. Trust me, this is the way, Now go away."

[@Tiltigo]

Rags: Was I happy when his ship got destoyed? Past Rags: YES YES FUCK YES

[@Bonesawisready926]

How indestructible that ship was in season 2 was pretty ridiculous, but this new ship is just trash.

[@nautdead3197]

@@Bonesawisready926 it's ridiculous the number of people that think it's cool Mando has that ship

[@JBrunette]

(happened at 19:53)

[@MrGeorgeFlorcus]

There's something almost unintentionally brilliant and beautiful how they turned the Razorcrest's many repairs and patch jobs into a constructed joke, with the punchline being it finally gets fucking atomized by Moff Gideon

[@Relugus]

Bo Katan has a proper Bounty Hunter's ship. Medium sized, nimble, and looks cool.

[@tamirfriedman1329]

We are all glossing over the fact that this episode did the same thing that happened in the Book of Boba Fett. Din come to buy a specific item, the mechanist tells him she doesn't have it but that she can sell him a junk replacement Din does not needm and after short convincing Din forgets he ever wanted what he actually came for.

[@matthewcollins4773]

I'm beginning to think that woman must have mind-control powers or something. She's actually Force-sensitive and mind-tricking him constantly. I mean, he's a cultist, he's weak-minded enough....

[@samzilla567]

I'm starting to wonder how Din even survived being a bounty hunter for years, if he can easily get scammed multiple times by some random Junker on Tattoine.

[@LN997-i8x]

@@matthewcollins4773 Din being repeatedly outwitted by a crazy lady who fucks Jawas in her spare time is my favourite recurring Mando plotline.

[@valentinegonsalves7322]

@samzilla Because he's not a bounty hunter. That's just a name. Its like "Cowboy" and "Western" that keeps being brought up when you talk about this show. Westerns are supposed to have some emotional meaning and at least one or two characters you can hold on to, even if the main plot is boring. Instead of just, "We need an action to open our episode one... Bah, big monster! There! Oh, we also need an action scene at the end of episode two... Bah, he fell in the water and there's a big monster! There!" What?

[@MaxRovensky]

Omg the stabby thing injected Mando in the spot not covered by armor, holy shit best character 🎉

[@ratbag_xl]

They've come along way haven't they

[@hh-dm6cp]

“What pains me is seeing our kind keep killing each other for reasons to difficult to understand” - Bo Katan the second in command of the former terrorist organization, death watch. Motivation of death watch was they got mad that Mandalore became a pacifist nation.

[@GhostLink92]

Shit, you can't even chalk that up to a writer who doesn't understand her. Filoni MADE her, he should've known that line doesn't make sense.

[@alexhayden219]

She's gotta be at least 70 years old, canonically. You think she remembers that?

[@Сайтамен]

@@alexhayden219 She is 53.

[@alexhayden219]

@@Сайтамен Where's the source that she's 53 come from? As far as I can find, there's no DOB given for her, but taking clues from her appearances, as well as things that creators irl have said, I'd place her somewhere between 60-70. She was indicated close in age to Kenobi and the three seasons of The Mandalorian apparently take place over "many" years, according to Favreau.

[@Сайтамен]

@@alexhayden219 Kenobi was 35 in Clone Wars, Satine (his love) was a little bit younger (since they had their romance when he was a padawan), and Bo is her younger sister. She looks plausible for 25 in season 7, so that makes her 53 in Mando, and I can buy that Katie will keep her look 10 years later. 70 would be really too much.

[@Pink.andahalf]

I love how Mauler in particular can't stop coming up with better show ideas than Disney. It happened all through Boba Fett, and he's continuing full steam on this show.

[@ericv00]

Literally anyone with an imagination can make up better stories than Disney. This is how you know everything they do is the 'brain' child of a business major (or an AI, but I have better expectations from an AI).

[@strategicperson95]

​@@ericv00 yeah an AI be better. My younger brother came up with an idea to have a planet that had a Separatist base where the locals got freed and had a prejudice against the droids. But one of the locals actually preserved a few of them for personal hobby. Then the planet get invaded by pirates, taking advantage of the now defenseless planet. Which would lead to the one local that preserved the droids to reactivate them and use them for defense, and they'd fight off the pirates, saving the people. And he'd want it done just through animation, no dialogue. Like a Genndy Tartakovsky cartoon.

[@valentinegonsalves7322]

Its not just MauLer. There's fan forums and shit out there better ideas, by people who are invested and know the canon inside out and can weave an interesting plot that isn't like a boring farming simulator. Where the bounty hunter is reduce to going to the market for errands because he doesn't have one or two things he needs. This show should be like a western train ride. Imagine this: Mando needs to get to Mandalore. In between him and that planet, there's several other towns and places and everytime he makes a stop for fuel or food some shit happens. Wars, clashes, some jailbreaking aliens, some heist plots. And this bounty hunter gets entangled in helping people and gets a target on his back. The running joke is everyone should laugh at him and call him insane for trying to check out Mandalore, because there's nothing there. And then by the end there's a big chase and he crashes on Mandalore to make his last stand against a bunch of factions after him. And it turns out his entire cult was wrong, all the rumours are wrong, and even his own mind is blown. Meanwhile everyone is now aware of Mandalore being habitable. And everyone's in a quest to go mine the beskar. While whats left of the cult are in a race to take back their home. Meanwhile episode 01: I need to get to Mandalore. Episode 02: Here we are.

[@valentinegonsalves7322]

@strategicperson95 Its a rather simple plot, but miles better than the mindless, wandering bounty hunter who hasn't collected a bounty since episode 03 season 01.

[@TurKlack]

If Droids could think, none of us would be here. Sentient Droids is out of the question. A shame that even efap don't understand that Droids literally just machines.

[@arandomperson3652]

Remember the Mines of Moria? And how even in its ruined state it inspired awe in all who saw it? Even those who had no connection to it whatsoever. But I guess nowadays writing is hard so let's just sleepwalk through these "characters" return to the most significant planet of their lives.

[@UncleJamie]

"There's always a bigger mythosaur" - Qui-Gon Jinn

[@silastipton9982]

I love how they add intense music even though nothing was chasing baby yoda

[@Arko777777]

Classic emotional manipulation, same with the sound effect that happens whenever Mando does something "cool".

[@blackdragoncyrus]

They need to add Batwoman music for REAL tension.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@Arko777777👍👍👍👍

[@Сайтамен]

What about that bat thing?

[@petriew2018]

@@Сайтамен wasn't actually chasing him. If you watch the scene on mute, it's the most pointless smash cut of a panicking puppet pretty much ever.... they never actually show anything in pursuit, just the super tense music it's surreal, because there's every cheap film making trick imaginable to get an emotional reaction out of the audience, but they forgot to actually put anything of substance in to it. If they'd have jump cut straight to him meeting Katie Sackhoff, nothing would have been lost

[@SheevTalks]

I'm so fucking glad we spent half of the first episode on resurrecting IG-11, despite the fact that he exploded in a pool of lava, just so that the first droid that's offered to Mando--which doesn't even suit his needs, as he says in the scene--can do the exact same job he needed IG for.

[@karoka7272]

Anyone else enjoyes the state of writing with Mando telling Grogu he was "hoping to avoid going out there"... when the whole reason he came here is to walk out there to the mines? Brilliant :D

[@LN997-i8x]

I like how he immediately follows this up by engaging the pressure seal on his armour, revealing that every bit of preparation he'd done up to this moment was pointless.

[@gleeman959]

Imagine if the redemption ceremony or trial actually was that he had to remove his helmet and keep it off while being put to the test. He has to endure physical and psychological torture while his face is exposed. And his face betrays his weaknesses. The lesson is that his helmet obscures those micro expressions and conceals what he does or doesn't care about. It's not absolute, but it's enough to protect yourself. Maybe even reveal how the clan find value in observing the subtler forms of expression due to the lack of faces. A good writer can do quite a bit with this.

[@ConnorJane]

Pedro Pascal wasn't on set that day, oops.

[@neocomp92]

Pedro Pascal wasn't keen to be Cersei Lannister

[@dauren7328]

Funny that Bo Katan would mention being a part of the royal family...seeing as how Mando should know who they were. Bo Katans sister led Mandalore into a golden age of peace and prosperity and ruled as Dutchess and even represented over 2000 worlds during the Clone Wars. Mando grew up on the moon next door to Mandalore...Bo was second in command of The Death Watch movement. How does he know so little?

[@goufr3540]

You are forgetting, this is Disney Star Wars. Things like Lore, Continuity or basic character knowledge does not exist here. The only thing that matter is Baby Yoda, everything else like 4th or 5th down the list.

[@RandInternet]

Mando’s lack of knowledge about the Mandalorians has probably been the most consistent part of his character.

[@petriew2018]

@@goufr3540 it's worse than Disney Star Wars.... it's Dave Filoni....

[@SkintSNIPER262]

@@petriew2018 Yeah, I grew up watching the 2008 TCW. Thought it was so amazing. Then it really hit me when I matured and realized how much he fucked everything.

[@petriew2018]

@@SkintSNIPER262 it's cool when your 12 years old, so i won't criticize it too harshly, since that was the target audience. But god help anyone who ever tries to argue it's well written. It was written for children, by children.

[@KelShu]

So you're telling me that after all of these years, no Mandalorian thought to check if their planet was sustainable or breathable?

[@Zed012]

Yep, and the faction that Mando belongs to would rather live nomadically than endure meaningful hardships on a poisoned homeworld using “pressurize” mode on their suits.

[@n4m31355h4dow]

​@@Zed012they could have do something like the quarian from mass effect

[@petriew2018]

@@armintamzarian8222 not really a shock, considering this is Dave Filoni lore..... which basically means everyone has to be a fucking idiot lest it get in the way of the next action set piece....

[@Zed012]

@@n4m31355h4dow A flotilla would make wayy more sense than lugging all of your beskar blacksmithing nonsense from port to port hoping you wouldn’t be discovered. Where are you least likely to be spotted by those who want to end your culture? On a constantly moving home. Where are you most likely to be spotted by those who want to end your culture? At random spaceports. I mean, at least wear cloaks and stuff to make your armor less obvious.

[@zachrohler1047]

Hell bandits, rouge pilots, fuckin truckers even. Somebody would know this planet is alright

[@Arko777777]

Bo-Katan: I honestly think that it's adorable that you actually believe these children's stories. Says a woman that lost her followers, because she didn't have a black glowy sword they revered because of stupid tradition.

[@Ceyx000]

Oh its even worse. The mandalorian prophecy of the fall was that mandalore would fall & the mandalorians would be scattered when an unworthy warrior held the darksaber (paraphrasing) Bo Katan was originally given the darksaber by mary sue Sabine in Rebels (S4), which lead to the fall of Mandalore to the Empire in two ways: Sabine created a death ray that cooks Mandos inside beskar & Bo Katan for not winning the darksaber in a duel. Bo Katan even knew of the prophecy and still accepted it. ::Laughs in Moff Gideon :: 😂

[@casbyness]

That's just what they tell her. Between themselves, they simply don'tt like her but to spare her feeling they made up the crap about the darksaber just as an excuse to leave her employ.

[@Ceyx000]

@@casbyness "this is Bo Katan, we trained her wrong on purpose, as a joke." - Papa Katan, probably

[@strategicperson95]

​@@Ceyx000 papa kryze actually. Cause she is suppose to be Satine's sister. Though it be nice if this info was available in the damn shows and not have to be found elsewhere. Disney-Lucasfilm needs to stop keeping important details out their shows/movies and putting them elsewhere where the majority of the audience isn't going to.

[@springheelzach812]

@@strategicperson95 it's said in clonewars and that was 40 years ago (Bo is pushing 60 by the way, and bobas a year older than Djin) why would she bring up her dead sister whom she is partialy responsible for 40 years after her death.

[@Kowkarot]

Imagine living in a Mandalore that was not destroyed. You are part of the Children of the Watch. One day, you remove your helmet, so you are told you are not a mandalorian anymore and you need to go take a bath in a special water fountain, and you are like "oh ok, I'll do it tomorrow though, I'm busy today", so you go on with your day as usual doing whatever mandalorians do, because there is no actual punishment for breaking the rule. Next day, you go take a bath in the special water fountain, go back, and they tell you "congratulations, you are mandalorian again", and everyone gives you a pat on the back, and you are like "awesome!", and then you go off to do whatever you were going to do that day as if nothing happened. It's all fucking meaningless.

[@JekPorkbricks]

You can also remove your helmet and then do whatever a Mandalorian does helmetless for years and then ocasionally take a bath so that everything's allright again.

[@Kowkarot]

@@JekPorkbricks Precisely. It's such a nothing rule.

[@rhyscallinan5058]

Funny thing was that's not even Mandalorian culture, it's just bullshit that was put in because ..... reasons?

[@aidanmattys7488]

It's almost as if it was invented for this show to add novelty because Disney could think of no other way to keep a piece of safety equipment on someone's head for more than 5 minutes without removing it to show the actor's face. Between both rebels and the clone wars, we saw many different cultures of different Mandalorian organizations and clans. None were like this or followed anything Close to this rule. Mandatore has only been destroyed for like 10-15 years at this stage as well. The Empire destroyed it whilst the rebels were forming. It's not like Mandalore has been a long lost homeworld that has been out of the picture long enough for weird cults to romanticise and mythicise it. The Mandalorian's tribe presented in this does not exist in what was established before. It's even more funny that the writer is the same. It was created purely to make a Master-Chief type character, regardless of whether they way they do that makes sense

[@JaimieSch]

@@aidanmattys7488 Facts. Literally none of this makes sense with what was established before in Disney's own canon. They tried to make the Mandalorian culture more spiritual and mystical, but just made it dumber instead. Did you catch that they established that the Children of the Watch are from Concordia? That's where Death Watch were from in the Clone Wars, who never followed any of these rules. Where were these guys when that was going down? Oh wait, they didn't exist yet, because this doesn't line up at all with any previous mandalorian content.

[@sivad1025]

I still can't believe that Bo-Katan repeats the exact same conversation with Mando that she had with Grogu. I think these writers literally used the copy/paste function to fill the time between "action" scenes

[@yourenotmarywelcome8693]

More proof that literally no one cares enough to read the script prior to filming.

[@NDenizen]

The first ChatGPT TV show

[@sivad1025]

@@NDenizen You say that as a joke (I think) but I honestly would not be surprised if true

[@TiMANosaurusRex]

I have a theory that there's a handful of writing teams, all given different prompts, with a specified amount of material to produce. Then they basically randomly smash the results together and call them "episodes".

[@SatanLiterally]

Pointed this out a few times, but the Boba Fett Variety Hour and the Kenobi Shobi feature essentially the same conversation. Boba suggests they retreat to a more defensible position because that would make sense, but Robotummy tells him that'd be a bitch move. Uncle Owen suggests they run because how are two dirt farmers going to fend off a Sith Inquisitor, but Beru tells him that'd be a bitch move. Same set up, same contrived conflict, same conclusion. Zero creativity.

[@ceceria6673]

That battle droid discussion reminds me of Count Dankula's video about the Nordic Biker Wars, when they all raided the armories for their own personal turf wars. A bunch of criminal gangs raiding the storage facilities and waging their own "Cold War" with decommissioned battle droids would be great story fuel.

[@lorddamocles2222]

I think mechanic lady is supposed to have some sort of character trait where she's able to convince Mando to buy things which he doesn't actually want. She did the same selling him his single seater fighter craft instead of a new razorcrest. And convincing him to trust her droid mechanics. Unfortunately the writers just didn't actually write that though.

[@happynihilist2573]

Mandidiot: "I need a droid that analyses atmospheres" Crazy Lady: "have this one!" Mandidiot:"That's not what i need" Crazy Lady: "But it's what you'll buy" Mandidiot: "Oh ok"

[@TheL0ngbeard]

I love that conversation, it does not follow what so ever.

[@jn1833]

Repeat of the entire ship fiasco, too. I swear, the conversation for that played out basically the same way.

[@corruptangel6793]

Why not give that droid something of an arc where it realizes something happened to Mando and IT goes for help? That would be neat and make infinitely more sense than the baby

[@Doug-89]

"I need a droid that can fly Grogu somewhere when the story needs it to happen."

[@valentinegonsalves7322]

Remember your childhood... Have you ever been sent to the store, and got offered such a deal and taken it and come back home and not gotten smacked and yelled at by your parents for being an idiot and costing yourself too much money? People talk about 50-year-old Baby Yoda being a logical fallacy. Meanwhile, every 16-year-old has grown out of being scammed the way Mando just takes it.

[@sophisticautistic5453]

It's kind of amazing how many episodes of mandalorian there are and yet it feels we barely gotten away from what could be called the status quo. At first it was "Mando was part of this cult and had to take care of a baby." Then it was "There is no more cult and Mando must leave Baby Yoda" Then it became "There was totally a cult and Mando is back in the cult and Baby Yoda is back". This show wants to change but doesn't want to commit is what I'm trying to get at.

[@chasehedges6775]

Modern Star Wars in general really.

[@chasehedges6775]

They have to tie up to the mediocre and horrible sequels somehow.

[@Kernwadi]

I remember watching the first season of this show, but I don't remember what happened...

[@aytony4090]

@Deus Ex Machina I think Mando said, "This is the way" then proceeded to be jizzed on by millions of people cosplaying as Charlie from The Whale.

[@nhagan001]

@@Kernwadi oh don’t worry, they know you didn’t remember. They had to practically retcon a Druid death to try and make it relevant, then tossed it aside in a single episode for this run of the mill model.

[@JohnathanSmithlesby]

**Visits Pompeii** Tour Guide: "It didn't always look like this, you know..." Me: "I grew up surrounded by water!" *Written by Jon Favreau*

[@PaulRaiiin15]

Even the Clone Wars tv show had people scavenging parts and weapons during the war with the most memorable being a clone trooper who was collecting and stringing together battle druid fingers as a trophy of war which was officially listed as contraband. It's the little things that make a show so how could the same people who wrote the clone wars and rebels had missed or forgotten all that for their live action shows?

[@callumpears1523]

Even recently in the Bad Batch, Crosshair was fighting a group of rebels who were using parts of Clone Trooper armour. Weird that someone thought of doing it there (even only a little) but not in any other places such as Mando, especially since Filoni is involved in both.

[@alexhayden219]

@@callumpears1523 I think the key is that Filoni isn't actually a good writer and also did not personally write much of either show.

[@matthewdenz1045]

Din: I need a large gunship to act as my bounty hunting vessel and living space. Peli: Here’s a 1 seat star fighter Din: uh, thanks. I also need a bounty assassin droid that can help me scout dangerous planets Peli: here’s an old astromech that clearly lacks mission experience Din: …

[@johannesseyfried7933]

Peli: "This is the kind of Droid you are looking for. You will pay for it and not think about it anymore." Din: "This is the kind of Droid that I'm looking for. I will pay you for it and not think about it anymore."

[@lacidar3752]

I’d actually allow that if they showed her doing the hand wave thing.

[@matane2465]

She's a Jedi, using the Jedi mind trick.

[@dark_selaphiel]

I know this is episode 2, but I'm still very confused at how Armor Lady got her cult back. Didn't they all die or something in Season 1? I thought it was just her and the heavy dude that were left when we saw them in Book of Boba Fett.

[@saidbtk]

Standard Mandalorians spawn at a rate of 5 every week

[@logicius]

Oh there's a long, detailed and complex explanation for how they went from 2 to 100 mandalorians, it's that .. _ThIs iS tHe WaY_

[@nobleman9393]

She used an in-game store to buy more NPCs.

[@alexhayden219]

It's too complicated to explain. Trust me. - Bro Katan

[@SunsetBear]

Somehow the way returned

[@dubiousdolphin4470]

Wait, so if the darksaber has to be won in combat, and Mando lost to the robot, and bo Katan beat the robot, does it belong to her now? Cuz Mando didn’t kill moff Gideon, and the robot didn’t kill Mando. So by the shows rules bo Katan won the dark saber fair and square.

[@williamcronshaw5262]

I made this exact joke on Disparu's video and so many Filoni fans got pissed at me lol.

[@Zed012]

Conflict resolved! And they didnt even need to focus on it as a story beat. I mean, technically it belongs to Mando’s sparring partner in season 2.5 while he’s still trying to learn how to use it. Gotta love Elder Wand rules!

[@dubiousdolphin4470]

@@Zed012 bro these rules are stupid. This is what happens when they don’t explain anything

[@petriew2018]

@@dubiousdolphin4470 The rules are actually pretty straight forward : whatever causes the most conflict with the least effort That's, like, the official motto of the Mandalorians since TCW butchered them as a concept....

[@dragonknightleader1]

Just by virtue of holding it, she doesn't have to return it seeing as how she wanted it in the first place.

[@phuqutoob-pf7pb]

" Recite the Mandalorian tenants" I wonder if she mispronounced "tenets", or if the script actually had the wrong word and she didn't notice. Or if she means they recite the names of people staying on the planet.

[@matthewcollins4773]

"Cannibal Ape 1" "Cannibal Ape 2" "Cyborg Tom the Blood-Pump Droid" "Cannibal Ape 3" "The Mythosaur".

[@JohnSmith-gu2dx]

The intriguing concept is that the lady with the frizzy hair lady doesn't genuinely like Mando; instead, she's aware that he's a gullible character who will purchase all her unwanted items. She has this incomplete ship that no one desires, but she can simply offer it to him, and he'll even finish building it. Moreover, if she has a useless droid, she can just persuade him for a moment that it's exactly what he needs, and he'll buy it without hesitation.

[@alosim1541]

Really playing fast and loose with the word “intriguing” aren’t we

[@JohnSmith-gu2dx]

@@alosim1541 listen I’m desperate for any character in this show

[@TheEdgysaber]

The plot of this episode is basically Lassie making their way back to let someone know that Mando is in trouble down at the old barn.

[@zanderman4059]

Episode 1: "I need this droid, I refuse to go with anything else, this one I trust." Episode 2: "Take this shoddy, old rebel astromech that suffers from cowardice." ok then

[@arkoa0000]

"Also I need a droid to test the atmosphere even though there should be equipment for it on a ship or tools and should be able the test the atmosphere anywhere on the planet. Also I can seal my suit BUT STILL NEED TO TEST THE ATMOSPHERE DAMN IT"

[@williamcronshaw5262]

@@arkoa0000 He didn't even have to take his armor off to take his stupid bath, what did he even need the stupid droid for then? And then there's a line where he says "I was hoping not to have to go out there myself." Well then how tf were you planning on taking your stupid bath?

[@arkoa0000]

@@williamcronshaw5262 We joked about Mando never taking the armor off for anything but it is now a literal feature of his crazy cult taken to the extemes

[@KOSVENDETTA]

@@arkoa0000 it’s actually incredible how they’ve ruined Mandolorians in general, with KOTOR and all the EU pre 2014, most fans thought Mandolorians were cool but now sadly, they’re a joke

[@Deadsnake989]

@@KOSVENDETTA What's even worse is the new people getting into them through this show have no idea what Mandalorians are. The stupid helmet shit, and "this is the way" aren't even Mandalorian customs. Before watching, I didn't think they'd heavily feature use of mando'a but I expected at least a nod to it. I didn't expect the show to be good. But after watching the first episode I expected it to be mediocre at worst. I was so disappointed at the end of season 1, I didn't even bother with watching 2. I just wanted to listen to Mauler and Rags giggle at the show.

[@Gaia1054]

My favorite part of this episode is where Mando falls into the lake and proceeds to plummet at 1000 miles per hour. Bo jumps in immediately and by the time she gets in Mando has already fallen so fast that he's nearly 50-100ft below her. I expected for Mando to have been grabbed by some creature not that he just missed his step and sank like a bag of rocks.

[@slaapt]

She didn't even just jump after him. She used her jetpack.

[@n0ttomuch65]

I thought that Monster pulled him down. As you said mando falled down way too fast and he was right next to the thing

[@Gaia1054]

@@n0ttomuch65 That's what I thought as well but in all the scenes there's no tentacle or anything pulling him down. And in the next episode Mando says "must've missed my step" or something along those lines. It's really bad lol

[@n0ttomuch65]

@@Gaia1054 but you did see the creature and it was right next to Mando, also Mando got knocked uncontios so only Bo Katan saw Mythosaurs. As far as Din knows he triped , but that's not what Bo Katan says- she prupsly avoids wording it that way. The lack of claw or tentacle to pull him down is probobly budget cut. Why use cgi when you can convey same message with him just going down fast

[@bigprobllama]

Imagine mando got to Mandalore and had to travel to the mines and survive the harsh environment of a destryed planet until he found and reached his destination. Meanwhile, his child companion could speak so they'd talk and Din could teach Grogu useful skills and why his religion matter to him, while they both discover the past of this civilization. We could experience both character, action and SW lore through their interaction with each other and the things they face...

[@Ceyx000]

"Sir! SIR! excuse me Sir, that sounds like good storytelling, and we dont take too kindly to yer kind round these parts"- Disney

[@dancingvalkyrie]

Didn't Bo specifically form her fleet to retake Mandalore from the Empire? This episode shows there's literally no Imperial presence there, so now we gotta assume the Mandos were just too lazy to simply go there and rebuild.

[@DarkbeakK]

Thank goodness that robot kidnapped Mando, would have been a real shame if he got past it only to drown a few minutes later.

[@RM-rr3bo]

"This air may be unbreathable. I'll pressurise my helmet so I can survive this inhospitable environment" *almost drowns in a small pond* Lmao.

[@MrGeorgeFlorcus]

Also immediately depressurizes his ship and opening the canopy, thus exposing Grogu to the potentially lethal atmosphere...

[@augusteclaiborne1778]

To be fair I think once he tests the air to see if it’s breathable, he may have de-pressurized his helmet back to its normal state.

[@KaNoMikoProductions]

@@MrGeorgeFlorcus He told Grogu to seal himself in his pod.

[@WiffleballofDoom]

I wish Bo Katan had removed his helmet so he could cough up water, and he had to go to the next level of the super secret waters because he showed his face AGAIN lmao

[@bartomiejmucha8475]

I asked Chat GPT to write an episode of The Mandalorain, I'm curious if it will be better than any season 3 episode. Here's what i got Title: "Meeting on Tatooine" The episode begins on Tatooine, where the Mandalorian has flown to meet a new client who needs help protecting his planet from invading enemies. The Mandalorian landed in a small, hidden city and immediately began looking for his client. On the way, he meets old friends and enemies who still try to capture him for the appointed reward. After intense fighting, he finally reached the meeting place. The client turns out to be an old acquaintance of the Mandalorian, a rare humanoid who is known as "Citizen Solaris". Citizen Solaris was initially an ally of the Republic, but after the fall of the Empire, she began acting on her own. Citizen Solaris presents a plan to the Mandalorian to protect the planet from attack, but it requires obtaining valuable resources from the surrounding planets. The Mandalorian goes on a journey to gather resources, but is ambushed by a group of bounty hunters who are after some mysterious bounty. The Mandalorian is forced into environmental action to escape the trap and continue his mission. After obtaining the resources, the Mandalorian returns to Tatooine to help Citizen Solaris defend his planet. In the ending, the Mandalorian and Citizen Solaris successfully resist and defeat their enemies, but the Mandalorian's involvement in the conflict may have negative consequences in the future.

[@randomnerd3402]

It's a serviceable episode

[@broisyougobbling]

It sounds identical to half of the episodes we’ve seen already, literally down to the two fight scenes per episode… perfect!

[@Zed012]

That sounds like a more fleshed out version of the Book of Boba Fett show. And I’d probably watch it as long as the action was competently shot and the dialog wasn’t cancer.

[@samwallaceart288]

"Where they need help defending his planet from invaders." IT'S ALREADY THE BEST EPISODE OF THE SEASON

[@baldurgunnarsson2578]

What does it say that an AI pitch is on par with the "best" human writers at Disney SW studios.

[@RandInternet]

Mando had his ritual bath, and there’s no occupying force on Mandalore (like they implied in s2 when Bo Katan needed weapons). What is this season even going to be about now that they resolved both of the major plot points going into the season?

[@pastychong]

Probably gonna focus on Bo trying to tame the Mythosaur and Din becoming more of a leader? I dunno tbh.

[@williamcronshaw5262]

​@@pastychong Episode 3 sets up a larger Imperial threat, Thrawn maybe I don't know.

[@theraven268]

@@williamcronshaw5262 NOOOOOO

[@patchmoulton5438]

@@pastychong Din? No, he's a male. He will always have to be saved with [current year] star wars.

[@nobody2996]

@@theraven268 Fear it, run from it, Thrawn being ruined again is inevitable. Just be happy Disney really doesn't want to use Mara Jade.

[@CrazyKoenie]

Did anyone point out the continuity error with IG11? As a statue he has his original left arm. Then when removed from the statue his left arm is missing but his right arm is magically intact

[@alexholker1309]

I don't think that's a continuity error - it just rotated its torso 180 degrees. It does that a lot in the fight versus the desert bandits in season one.

[@CrazyKoenie]

@@alexholker1309 I thought about that so I payed closer attention to the chest and however you spin it ‘pun intended’ I still think it’s an error

[@Dutch_man20]

I read a leak that apparently, sometime this season, IG-11 will be used and operated as a robot suit for Grogu. Like he’s iron man. Take it with a grain of salt of course, but if this is true, this will already add to the hilarity and clownery that we’ve been getting

[@christophergirardi8145]

Oh god please no....I'd rather Grogu talking than being able to fight.

[@williamcronshaw5262]

I've seen posts from fans expressing that they are unironically excited about this.

[@Dutch_man20]

@@williamcronshaw5262 whyyyyyyy?

[@patchmoulton5438]

@@Dutch_man20 They are Filoni fans. Someone pointed out that, according to Filonis rules on the darksaber, Bo Katan just 'won' it in this episode. The Filoni fans reeeing could be heard several AU out.

[@bigfloppa9594]

​@@patchmoulton5438 literally no one was complaining about that

[@happydemon3038]

My boy Mando seriously almost drowned from stepping into a pool. Then again, he didn't "grow up surrounded by water", surely that's why.

[@427Arbok]

One of my favorite bits of Expanded Universe (I refuse to call it "Legends") was the Black Fleet Crisis novel series. I dropped it about halfway through, just ran out of time to read and never got back into it, but it featured a lot of leftover Imperial equipment being used against other Imperial equipment. Basically, one of the three main plots was the New Republic trying to open-up relations with an isolated cluster in the Core Worlds. As it turns-out, one of the races living there was building a little Empire of their own, as their region was (if I recall) once a major hub of Imperial construction, so there's a decent amount of Star Destroyers attacking worlds defended by TIE Fighters and stuff like that.

[@TheSharkIsWorking_23]

Love how all Mando/Grogu fans argued, “Mando did not fall in. Something pulled him under.” Next episode, 1 min in… Mando: “I fell.” LOL

[@derekfcc]

I HAVE THIS ARGUMENT WITH MY FAMILY EVERY WEEK!!!

[@ethancollins704]

There was an episode of star wars rebels where the rebels find a downed separatist supply ship to scavenge and inside the ship there are a bunch of active battle droids. They find out that on the ship there was a super tactical droid who calculated that the separatist were going to win the war and when it received the shut orders it assumed it was a trick and denied them. One of the rebels sent to scavenge was a clone and there's a conversation between him and the super tactical droid arguing over who won the war and if they both lost then who actually won, the episode is called "the last battle"

[@noahsmith1053]

Honestly it's one of those things from rebels where I was like "know what this is actually a interesting story idea".

[@ethancollins704]

@@noahsmith1053 there's a surprising amount of that in rebels, considering how much hate it gets

[@noahsmith1053]

@Ethan Collins Yea definitely wasn't my favorite stuff to watch, but it had its moments least to me. Think the biggest highlight was Maul v Obi. It was poetic, simple, and very effective. I loved it.

[@ethancollins704]

@@noahsmith1053 it definitely has more than it's fair share of cringe that's for sure, but when it's good it's pretty fucking good, it has probably the best space battle in all of star wars, in the episode where thrawn finds where the rebels fleet is amassing and ambushes them

[@thepebbleinstitute7702]

If I DMed a group of players the same way these writers made mando, my friends would start getting annoyed. Mando storytelling isn’t just game-y, it’s bad, annoying grindy game-y.

[@AndrewThoesen]

Holy shit that’s exactly what it feels like. It’s bad D&D.

[@matthewcollins4773]

Mechanic Woman is either a) secretly Force-sensitive and using mind tricks on Mando to make him buy crappy things he doesn't need or want every time he visits (let's face it, he's weak-minded enough), or b) is a charity case that Mando indulges out of a sense of guilt.

[@KaNoMikoProductions]

Or Mando is legitimately retarded, which would be in-character.

[@sambrant9]

I find it hilarious to imagine now that he's been redeemed or whatever, anytime he has to do something that would require him to take off his helmet like eating, he has to put grogu in another room so he doesn't look forever

[@sambrant9]

Unless he wants to keep traveling to do the cave water thing over and over again

[@dodojesus4529]

​@@sambrant9 which brings up another sstupid thing. If mandalore was still up and running this would be a an annoying chore and nothing else

[@Doug-89]

He didn't need a droid to test the air, the story needed a droid to fly Grogu away.

[@beginnersmessiah]

'Any way that must be told this is the way is no true way' - Tywinius Lannisterius.

[@arturzinurov4781]

Literally majority of the 1st episode was spend setting up this quest to get IG-11 unit back cause Mando REALLY needed it and he was even arguing with Boba Frics about it and got them to agree to fix it for a memory chip so Mando goes to this blight to my existence on Tatooine only to back out from getting IG-11’s memory card cause the blight said “no”. They are wasting my time and not even pretending like it’s not a case. Honestly this is legitimately an insult to everyone’s intelligence and the maddening part is there will be people who eat this shit up.

[@samwallaceart288]

Yeah the show is that guy at work who whines his way out of doing something but then does it in 5 minutes the next day because he's moved onto another thing to complain about.

[@IcePhysicsGaming]

When Mando was attacked I thought they were going to use that to explain that anyone who makes it to the surface of Mandalore is killed. This would explain why everyone assumes the planet is uninhabitable (no one makes it back alive) and maybe introduce a new element. A faction on Madalore, maybe even more extreme than the Mando's who thinks all outsiders should be killed, and anyone who goes off planet is considered an outsider as well. So they're super insular and maybe their extremity makes Mando reflect that maybe his cult is extreme too, just not that extreme. Or some other conspiracy, like imperials or pirates or something. Maybe the Mandalorians tell everyone that the planet is poisoned to protect it but once you get there you learn otherwise and are in on the secret, and they sent Mando as a final test to see if he's willing to brave the poison. Could have been anything other than that there happened to be a random, albeit very cool, monster that happened to attack Mando so there could be an action scene and Grogu could navigate to Katan.

[@TheSharkIsWorking_23]

“Did you think your dad was the only Mandalorian?” HE WAVED @ 40 OF THEM IN THE PREVIOUS EPISODE! “How did you find me?” YOU TOLD GROGU TO GO GET HER & BRING HER THERE!

[@MediumRareOpinions]

I'm starting to believe they don't really script this stuff out fully. Like they film things off of vague pitch notes then figure our how they fit together afterwards in the editing bay

[@The_Laughing_Cavalier]

"The Diner of Dexter Jettster, Season Whatever Episode 1" After defeating Mickey Mouse back in Season 1, Dexter Jettster has picked up a new sidekick between seasons. Klaud, the peen monster thing from Rise of Skywalker. He hires him as a chef in his new diner on Tatooine but is annoyed when he realises that Klaud has no arms and can't do anything. He travels to the Cantina to see Bea Arthur from the holiday special, who tells him she will tell him about a guy who can tell him the location of an ancient tablet that can tell him how Klaud can get arms and cook food at last... on the condition that he go and find Max Rebo about playing in the Cantina. On the search for Rebo, Dex has to make some amends. He once washed his dishes, which is against the Jettster way and so he has been exiled.. but he still has everything he had before so nothing has changed. To cleanse his soul, he must travel to the deep fat friers of Coruscant and bathe in them so he can be accepted back into the Jettster family. Will he find them? Tune in next time!

[@matthewcollins4773]

I hope we get to see the traditional Jettster chef initiation, and that it isn't interrupted by a random giant alligator lunging out of the kitchen sink.

[@Kernwadi]

Did you know that in the times of war men can lactate?

[@Zed012]

I’m on board, as long as there are plenty of cameos from solid character actors that only get used for superficial purposes.

[@Cobruh_Commander]

​@@matthewcollins4773 That's only if the initiation takes place on Space Australia.

[@dingov2269]

The reason that the crew let Rag’’s ramble on and on at the beginning is because they KNOW what will happen if they contradict his mighty brain.

[@Ceyx000]

He'll knock the glasses off the table and poop in their shoes again?

[@m1ping686]

Being able to fly hundreds of feet into the air on its own is a great feature for a baby stroller. Can’t wait for baby yoda to fly into space and destroy capital ships in his little pod

[@marcthomas5949]

Razorchrest "you could not live with your own nostalgia " Where did that bring you Back to me

[@ewilipsic5956]

Mando didn't spill his soup everywhere because he is incompetent but rather because no self respecting human would drink something called "pog soup".That definitely contained some bodily fluids if you know what i mean 😅

[@NoPantsBaby]

The Mythosaur? These writers are children. Imagine the Fantasodactyl or the Imaginoraptor. Perhaps we'll even have a Fabulopod Rex.

[@pastychong]

The name was invented long before this show came out lol.

[@petriew2018]

@@pastychong by the same idiots who created this show....

[@datzfatz2368]

There is a lot to make fun of in the show but that is not one of them. Mythosaurs have been a thing for decades in Star Wars Lore. And if im being honest, the Name isnt even that silly. Since its literally a Latin Dinosaur Name. And there are many Real Life Dinosaur names (or just Latin Animal names in general) that are just as silly or dumb sounding.

[@johannesseyfried7933]

No, these things were actually part of the old canon. The first Mandalorians wiped them out when they came to the Planet thousands of years ago. Which is why I don't understand what this specific one is doing here, in the Water no less. My lore knowledge is a bit rusty, but I don't think Mythosaurs can breathe underwater.

[@datzfatz2368]

@@johannesseyfried7933 since the old canon (unfortunatley) doesnt count to them anymore (besides being a grave to be plundered and then ruined by Disney sometimes when they want to bank on nostalgia) and a Mythosaur has not appeared in Disney Material before, all Bets are off. They might have just retconned it^^

[@Dave_L913]

Does Mando's helmet have a hermetic seal? To what? There's no neckpiece. Also, *IF* the droid was going to check the atmosphere in a confined space, it would make a little sense. Mando lands out in the open, where the air might be breathable, but underground could be low oxygen or poisonous. Of course, the show didn't do that.

[@KelShu]

Oh wow the Mythosaur, I can't wait to see the Legendceratops or the Taledactyl

[@hh-dm6cp]

I’m more excited for the fleemosaur personally

[@gringles]

The Inquisitors should capture it and bring it to Fortress Inquisitorious.

[@Ceyx000]

Epicsaurus Rex is my fave.

[@klafsen]

Oh my god, imagine a rolled up droideka being held up by the battle droid and super battle droid as they walk around! One of the droids gets distracted by something and the droideka falls over, poor thing!

[@Dave_L913]

Mando slips and almost drowns because he doesn't have his jetpack on. He took it off for... reasons? because he didn't want it weighing him down when he went into the pool? Another plot contrivance like when Boba made him take it off in S2E6 just so he wouldn't be able to use it to get to Grogu in time.

[@Atheismo9760]

This is Boe Katana. She's got my back.

[@jackobrien47]

Her Dark Saber claims the charisma of its victims

[@xel1673]

If they wanted to have a method that allows limited communication from Grogu to other characters without giving Grogu a voice, they could make up whatever they want (they do that already). Like a Force ability (or maybe an incomplete one) that has emotions, sounds, and images impressed upon the target. So in this instance Grogu can share his fear and his memories of being on the planet. It could have Mando's voice crying out in pain and then saying "Go find Bo Katarn". All of it fast and scattered, but enough to paint a picture for the target of the problem. Then it can later be discerned that Grogu doesn't like doing that to people just as much as people find it jarring to have it done to them. Especially without warning/permission given first. So the ability is only used in emergencies, it has failings, so it isn't a perfect method for communication anyway, and thus Grogu can continue being his silent self that Disney wants, while giving the show one tool to allow Grogu to start to interact with people and potentially open the door for character developments rather than just being the cute Disney Princess pet with Force powers.

[@Hollyclown]

Ok so they set up in Book of Boba Fett, Mando has to redeem himself. In the trailer for this season, it’s based entirely around trying to redeem himself. But in the end, it only took him 2 episodes to get to the stupid river, which survived apparently. You could have easily had a full season of him Journeying through this planet while being chased by monsters and pirates, but they move on so quickly from it. So disappointed.

[@pastychong]

That sounds boring as fuck lol. At most you could stretch out this redemption plot for 3-4 episodes. Imagine 8 whole episodes on the same planet, when the living waters are only in one city. It wouldn’t take a season to find.

[@Hollyclown]

@@pastychong but not 2 episode. a competent writer can make a story revolving around Mando trying to find redemption, racing against time, while possibly going against several other parties with conflicting interests, maybe make it more than just drowning in a river. Something, anything than what we got.

[@noneed4sleep64]

That “whatcha bring me?” Was the best one yet, bravo Fringy

[@The-Arsenal]

I remember in Kotor 2 there was a Mando recruit on Dxun, Davrel, that missed out on fighting in the Mandalorian Wars since he was too young. So he proves himself in a sparring arena for awhile until he's beaten by a Jedi (The Player, in this case). He challenges the Jedi outside of the camp to a duel to the death in front of a couple scouts to reclaim his honor in victory or death, or he can be persuaded to help kill a giant beast in the forest and bring its ear back as proof. Sounds more basic but it's gotta be better than "Oh I gotta wash the stink off in the water"

[@Arphemius]

If I had a nickel for every time Rags mentioned humans landing a probe on Venus in a Mandalorian season 3 EFAP episode, I'd have 2 nickels - which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.

[@kngt_ldr9853]

To expand on Rags' idea of Mando having to relearn the creed, imagine if he has to re-earn his gear, from weapons to armor pieces. Have him go over his whole training again with Bo-Katan serving as his master, staring with nothing but his helmet and melee weapons while slowly over the season earning his blaster, his chest plate and so on... All the while we are taught how all those things work and what the freaking creed actually is... But no! We get the shittiest shower scene ever instead...

[@xel1673]

That whole bit with Grogu pointing to the panel on the spaceship and looking at the R2 unit as if the thing could somehow understand him could have been avoided with just a small addition to the script. Just have Mando set the ship to auto-pilot back to Bo Katarn's planet. He doesn't know what they might encounter on the planet, so Mando could have told Grogu, as a just in case, "if anything happens, activate the auto-pilot and it will take you somewhere safe (or back to Bo)". And then give a 2-sec instructional before departing. This could have happened right as he leaves the ship to find the missing droid and leaves Grogu alone. It also sort of removes the "Why does he keep taking Grogu on these missions. If anything happens to Mando, Grogu is screwed." The show could actually show Mando developing back-up plans to protect Grogu and get him to safety should things go sideways.

[@BSMerlin064]

I can't believe they're writing literal Oblivion side quests into Star Wars

[@collingreen9517]

I love the fact starwars engineers find it necessary to put a droid AI in everything, even their blood pumps. If you have to motivate basic machinery with threats of pain and violence you’ve over complicated your equipment severely.

[@HisNameWasCrazy]

Back when it started, The Mandalorian was a vaguely promising adventure show with some small amount of potential. Now it's just a tomb.

[@M.Penner]

You guys are way too melodramatic. It looks great and there's usually some cool set pieces, neat action, etc. I don't think the show needs to be anything more than just a cool episodic adventure series where you have the mandalorian and baby yoda doing stuff. There's nothing wrong with that.

[@HisNameWasCrazy]

@@M.Penner I liked the first season well enough cos it seemed like that's what it was going for, since then it's just become a show about a wierdo cult member and his brainwashed wierdo cult shit and the writing has gotten more and more nonsensical to the point where it's like a show for small children (episode 3's brief foray into having actual characters aside, even that plotline devolved into total nonsense by the end).

[@M.Penner]

@@HisNameWasCrazy Eh, I won't disagree that the show has gotten worse the further it's gotten away from the episodic storytelling. But it's still pretty fun most episodes. Production quality is good, the SFX are great, and there's almost always some cool stuff happening. I think it's fine if that's all it is.

[@bigfloppa9594]

​@@M.Penner efap fans are melodramatic about anything they don't personally like

[@nicolasacosta1673]

That battle droid bit reminded me of when Luke and Mara had to fight droidekas in Survivor's Quest. It was pretty cool seeing how those droids were still being used decades after the clone wars.

[@JadenD-rq9uj]

I'm calling it now they are gonna make a reference to the holiday special in one of these shows if they haven't already.

[@lacidar3752]

Season 1, episode 1 references life day.

[@fallingace9887]

So disappointed that the efap guys didn't recognize R5-D4 the heroic droid that damaged his own motivator in a New Hope so Owen would take R2

[@ewilipsic5956]

Some more problems with the episode- 1)wasn't the living waters under the civic center in the city of sinduri(sinduri might refer to the destroyed city but if it does then that would open more problems like why did the mandos build a civic centre on top of one of their most important cultural locations where people need to go to get redeemed) now moving forward with sinduri not being the ruined city it would mean that the civic centre is above it i.e close to the surface does that mean that the cave trolls were the civil servants?Did the writers forget what they wrote in there own show ?? The planet isn't poisoned, a city is missing 2)we have seen baby yoda almost kill cara dune and be willing to eat anything he is a psycho and the show definitely thinks that he is aware of his surroundings with the whole luke subplot .So coudn't he just have picked up the lizard cretaure and crushed it or torn it apart 3)why did bo-katan pick up the dark saber mando's perfectly good gun was right next to it , I thought that using the dark saber would be against her cult rules

[@19Ledor]

Forgot to post this last time. Season 1: Oh no, all the Mandalorians are dead! So sad! Season 2: Oh no, the Mandalorians are still dead, so sad. Book of Boba Fett: Oh no, there are only three Mandalorians left, so sad. Season 3: Who would win? 100 Mandalorians or the Methgator? Don’t watch the show only EFAP coverage. How do the writers justify there suddenly being so many of them?

[@HugoGojibiter]

So for the scene where Mando “pressurises” his helmet, and proceeds to seemingly flood the cockpit with the possibly poisonous air, I’m pretty sure he tells Grogu to get in his floating baby stroller thing, I guess implying that the stroller can also become poison air safe when closed up. Thing is, that implies that the baby stroller somehow fits inside the tiny fucking cockpit of the naboo starfighter. How do people like this show?

[@springheelzach812]

baby yodas basanet also telaports because he left it on the surface of mandalore but when he and bo katan are on her ship heading there he just has it back.

[@HugoGojibiter]

@@springheelzach812 I wonder if the people involved in making this show know what “pride in your work” means?

[@newtthegamer3103]

Guess the Bends don’t exist in the Star Wars universe, because Bo Katan brought Mando out of that water very fast.

[@Dave_L913]

I'll give them a pass on this one. I think the bends happens when you decompress too quickly after being submerged for a period of time. Mando wasn't down there long enough for nitrogen to dissolve in his bloodstream, so he probably didn't have much of a problem.

[@williamcronshaw5262]

Also the Jet Pack works underwater.

[@newtthegamer3103]

@@williamcronshaw5262 With how volatile those jetpacks are, I was really surprised that they worked underwater when the slightest of hits sends them rocketing out of control.

[@williamcronshaw5262]

​@@newtthegamer3103 Plus, you know, water tends to put out fire. Like I know Jet fuel can allow things to light on fire even on water but doesn't it usually have to be an extremely large amount of Jet Fuel?

[@petriew2018]

let's be honest, if Mando came out of that brain damaged, nobody would even notice until he somehow made an uncharacteristically good decision

[@MassiveiusBiggus]

It better be massive... Otherwise the Cosmic Chicken is going to be very angry.

[@iivin4233]

That big cock is lying now, calmly warbling But should it ever be aroused, woebetide. No hole shall hide ye, no matter the depth.

[@cobby407]

I like the veteran Droideka post-war story, where he has to deal with a world after perpetual combat and overcome the limitation that, lacking hands, his only way of interacting with life has been shooting from his blaster arms. Does he want to be more? Does he plead to or threaten a nervous technician to replace his guns with working fingers? Does he struggle even after that to see the worth of his life outside of his basic combat utility? Now that war's over, what can he become? Roly-Poly-Murder-Boly: A Star Wars Story.

[@Zed012]

So, **spoilers** the next episode Bo Katan says that the Living Waters were never that deep, and that something may have caused a tectonic shift (I think it was the fusion bombs dropped by the Empire, but that was her speculation) which opened the lake floor. Now, in real life, if the lake floor opened up and there was a massive cave underneath, this would cause the water to flood out of the lake and into the new cavern that opened up. In the show, the water levels did not change at all as denoted by the man-made stairs that go all the way to the water. The water level wasnt higher before the floor opened (because why would the entrance and stairs be underwater while they are in use?), and it didn’t get lowered when the floor opened (for reasons I already established). That is, unless the Star Wars universe follows Minecraft rules of water physics and spawn blocks, and instead it would cause a mid-air waterfall glitch.

[@hh-dm6cp]

Minecraft rules lol

[@Zed012]

@@hh-dm6cp Maybe Beskar is made like Obsidian, and someone was trying to mass produce it using lava deposits so they could invade the Nether with spaceship sized portals.

[@hh-dm6cp]

@@Zed012 be better than this show

[@Zed012]

@@hh-dm6cp Maybe they can use The Nether to explain how Emperor Palpatine lived past Episode 6.

[@TheBloopers30]

@@Zed012 He obviously had a totem of undying on him...

[@TheNoonish]

Nobody ever: "I'm looking for a rare, difficult to find part. I'm going to the most backwater shop in the middle of nowhere to see if they have any, instead of going to any large metropolis." Mando: "..."

[@MiszAgrippa]

Just think how dumb the creed was before the fall of Mandalor. -You took your helmet off. You did the big bad. Now go to this district in city you live to redeem yourself. It's like pilgrimage to a swimming pool in your local city.

[@fallous]

So in two episodes we've had IG-88, R5D4, and 2-1B. I look forward to ep 3 where FX-7 and the Gonk droid show up.

[@johannesseyfried7933]

Well, Gonk Droids aren't exactly rare. Aren't they basically just walking batteries?

[@davidmendez3899]

so many things to discuss. first, this show dredging up a d3ad character(IG88), desecrating his body, and rereprogramming his “personality” is very indicative of how SW is written. second, are we supposed to like the mechanic character anymore? she’s clearly an untrustworthy scammer who could’ve gotten Mando poisoned if that droid didn’t work. third, are there no robot stores? why you gotta buy a second hand junk droid? you can go to any planet and, I would assume, buy a brand new droid made specifically for your needs. is he just poor? I wouldn’t be surprised if he was really bad with money but there’s gotta be more reliable places to buy the things you need. don’t even want to talk about how dummb he acted on Mandolor.

[@BananaHammocks]

when fringy brought up the lone battle droid show i at first thought "come on thats a stretch" and then they proceeded to pitch a show about a few battle droids that i would 100% watch

[@Arko777777]

Mando forgot how his helmet works, so he could've been captured by a stealthy droid. Why you won't turn on your other vision after being ambushed by troglodytes already? You're supposed to be the best bounty hunter in the parsec Mando!

[@Liverator]

Ah yes, the typical trope of having a character do something with large consequences, like going against their creed, then immediately finding some contrivance of a solution to avoid the consequences of that action.

[@McJuggins]

The bad batch did have a episode where the empire try to control a planet and the planet defends themselves with reprogrammed battledroids to defend themselves funnily enough.

[@datzfatz2368]

there have been a couple of instances of this before, yeh. In Rebels too. And the idea of course cam up a lot in Legends lore.

[@patchmoulton5438]

@@datzfatz2368 A good chunk of the Rebel fleet in the EU were old CIS ships. Them being droid ships helped a lot when it came to their manpower issues. And then there was the race for the Katana fleet but that's New Republic.