EFAP TV: Reacting to The Mandalorian S03E03 - The Convert

Wait a minute, they put an episode of something else in this Mando sandwich! The EFAP crew investigates...
Edited by Fringy

[@ngabel8956]

We've learned more about the New Republic in this random out of place episode of The Mandalorian than an entire trilogy of movies.

[@SunsetBear]

I’d say we learned over four times as much

[@PanzerblitzRnR]

Yes, we learned that the Rebellion was a complete and utter failure that traded dictatorship for shitty, evil beurocracy. Luke, Han, and Leia character assassinated again.

[@guyincognito1406]

That’s pretty much par for the course for a rebellion anyways, ya live long enough to die a hero or become a villain. Those who would coup are always a risk and always removed by those who inherit power.

[@firekram]

​@Guy Incognito yeah sure, but in what world do leave someone undergoing a medical procedure alone in a room? Like that is really odd

[@MattR8605]

@@firekram Just shit and lazy writing

[@MisterLindsay]

I really like that the sequence with him trying to touch the mountain peak; her telling him about it, showing him something he wanted, him getting up the courage to reach out for it, only to be shut down by the 'authorities' which it was clear she was setting him up for; was a neat little episode-in-a-scene version of their whole story.

[@terifcus]

Oh nice! Good point!

[@Kaptain_Scout]

Imagine we had that kind of writing throughout the mandalorian

[@ArcticWolf00Alpha0]

Thats actually a really cool observation...i didnt know that.

[@dondoesdoodles9726]

@@Kaptain_Scout That would require talent. . . . something Disney clearly doesn't have a lot of that.

[@Jays_dead_cat]

Didn't catch that

[@JekPorkbricks]

After Book of Boba Fett was interrupted by season 2.5 of The Mandalorian, The Mandalorian season 3 is interrupted by Pershing season 1.

[@aytony4090]

Gotta love it

[@AkhSeth]

Noah Kloor , co-writer of this episode also wrote 7 episodes for Boba Fat...Which makes me think this Pershing "ep" was little happy accident.

[@agarciahunter]

@@AkhSeth to be fair that was the last episode of boba fett. Not like he had a lot of good material to work with.

[@MandaloreTheReclaimer]

The book of doctor Pershing. A star wars story.

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

@@agarciahunter But that was the worst one...

[@blackdragoncyrus]

This one person on the Andor writing team got lost and wandered into the Mando team for a day or something.

[@HisNameWasCrazy]

John Favreau found him and kicked him out of the building before he could write a decent ending, it's the only explanation.

[@gobs379]

Disney incorporating gemba walks as part of their management strategy.

[@ivanhenderson31]

@@gobs379 Hey Andor Department! We need you to do a random Gemba walk around Disney once a month and fix something small and sustain the change! *happens to walk into the Mando show department* *fixes garbage writing taking place halfway into S3:E3* Jon Favreau: *the old timer stuck in his ways who doesn't sustain the changes and improvements made* Jon Favreau when no one likes his shitshow: 😱

[@valentinegonsalves7322]

Stakes, tension, world building, character building. They made the characters likeable? You want the doctor to succeed because he's passionate about the science and regrets it being misused? He knows the risks but also knows the good side could do wonders with his ideas? Oh, and an evil lady is pretending to be good and I want her to do the right thing and realise she's been on the wrong side? She's not a girlboss? She's got character, too? Is this still...Disney...Star Wars?

[@alouiciouswrex7141]

The train sequence was based on the writer desperately trying to finish the episode before the Favreau-bots caught him.

[@purpleemerald5299]

The subplot up until the mindflayer scene was actually the writer’s metaphorical depiction of what it was like for them to pursue a script of higher quality in a grey sea of corporate schlock, only to be betrayed by Jon at the last possible second and have their creativity forcefully sucked away just to satisfy Lucasfilm’s endless desire for more Mando.

[@robmartin525]

No no I think Disney has a mindflayer device

[@valentinegonsalves7322]

Nice

[@carpyet9507]

I hope they saw this comment

[@StevenRichter]

I love that when we cut back to Mando; There's a scene outside the cave where he explains everything we already know and then a scene inside the cave where he repeats everything we already know. We could have just jumped straight to him handing over the water for the Armorer to test and nothing would be different. The scenes with the Mandalorian tribe are just on autopilot

[@ARCtrooperblueleader]

Beautifully said.

[@justinstoll4955]

Confirmed: Mando, a supposedly badass bounty hunter almost drowned himself. What an interesting character.

[@arklaw8306]

He didn't grow up surrounded by water, so...

[@sparkypack]

And it wasn't the Mythosaur. 🦎 It wasn't his fault Mando slipped!

[@Legomanarthur]

This is the way.

[@kingexplosionmurder3764]

Damn, imagine fighting off a battalion of stormtroopers, killing beasts of all different sizes, and reclaiming the darksaber only to have your legacy end because you slipped in a lake. That must suck.

[@kingexplosionmurder3764]

Reminds me of The Wire when *spoilers* Omar is killed by a kid after he survived being attacked by gang members.

[@admiralgaius9796]

I will always find it funny how they have for some reason made Bo Katan a good person despite the fact she was introduced as a member of a terrorist organization that essentially forced Ahsoka into slavery in Clone Wars.

[@leakyboat224]

Haven't you seen the Book of Boba Fett? Disney says that slavery is fine.

[@JaimieSch]

Don't forget the part where she helped Death Watch burn innocent civilians' houses to the ground, because they wanted them to not kidnap their children. Yeah they really needed to put more work into the "Bo Katan isn't evil anymore" thing if they want to go that route.

[@Ch0c0lateChimp]

Yea I don't understand why Lucasfilm decided to make Bo a hero. She was somewhat of a villain-type, a character that the good guys would reluctantly side with because they have a common enemy but would find something shady about her. With the ending of Season 2 I thought "she's definitely going to be the antagonist for the next season or two" but NOPE, that idea was too interesting for the showrunners.

[@Ch0c0lateChimp]

Mind you, [[SPOILERS]] I just finished watching the latest episode and she's basically the main character now...

[@admiralgaius9796]

I blame Rebels, I'm pretty sure it was that show that first treated her as a hero instead of the, at best, anti villain she was in Clone Wars. Sine then the heroic characterization has popped up in stuff like Mandalorian and Clone Wars Season 7 and her unsavory past has been glossed over.

[@DailyDoseMain]

"hypothetically... If we held hands, ate lightbulbs, and went to the mountain top... Would you let me flare your brains out" - small arms space Abbie

[@Kernwadi]

🥈

[@trevorcoyle517]

Hell I'd do it

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

Boba Fett: How does it feel when someone else steals an episode of your show, Din Djarin?

[@spartansquid5931]

Hahaha!

[@grandarkfang_1482]

"Feels great."

[@kylefrank638]

I grew up surrounded by usurpers

[@MrJiggles]

What makes me laugh, is that this episode confirms he wasn't dragged down, he just fell. So if that robot bug thing didn't exist then Mando didn't need Bo to be called in and the series would've ended here with him slipping over in a pool and drowning..

[@miep3934]

We're were on the verge of greatness. We were this close...to not having to follow Mando.

[@kylefrank638]

Well, that's why the show's main message is that friends are precious! and we need to keep them close, otherwise we might slip and fall in the pool with no one to help us

[@RhysCallinan-ix5lg]

​@@kylefrank638 I now have the image in my head of Biden falling while walking up those airplane stairs like "if only you had a friend then you'd be fine".

[@n0ttomuch65]

wait how does it confir that/

[@MrJiggles]

​@@kylefrank638 I hope this is the beginning of Grogu's character arc into becoming a lifeguard..

[@paultorrisi4992]

As many of us may have forgotten, Mando actually is capable of swimming, as seen in the episode where he meets Bo Katan, where he jumps in the water after baby Yoda and swims back up, only to be blocked by the grate. So, I don't even know how sank at all, let alone that fast.

[@realistic_delinquent]

Magic water

[@jeggsonvohees2201]

Jetpack no doubt.

[@kw9849]

He fell about 500ft in 2 seconds, hitting the bottom at that speed ought to have killed him.

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

He didn't swim up, he used his jetpack which he didn't have this time. This armour is too heavy to swim in.

[@weareharbinger914]

His density has increased massively. Or you know, shitty writing.

[@aquapuppy9838]

"I'd have invited you over for a feast, but not if you won't take your helmet off." And that's how she eliminated the competition, by getting all the other Madalorians excommunicated.

[@snakeguy8646]

Tbh don’t know why we’re drifting towards noncult Mandalorians just not being real and that you have to be in the cult to be a REAL Mandalorian, and no one’s pointing in universe how asinine this is!

[@dondoesdoodles9726]

@@snakeguy8646 I mean. . . . welcome to cults. The people in them think that it's smart and real while everyone else thinks they're crazy idiots. Don't know why we are supposed to take Bo Katan's word on anything. She's a War criminal that first appeared in Star Wars slaughtering a village of innocent people. She worked for Darth Maul until she got to xenophobic to no listen to him. She betrayed her own family for the stupid edgy-saber.

[@purpleemerald5299]

@@snakeguy8646As asinine as that sounds…that is how a shocking amount of religious and political groups operate in real life when they start to schism… …of course, it usually isn’t over wearing FUCKING HELMETS.

[@Harrinsain]

That line made me stop and think about the fact that they literally commented on the fact that they can't eat properly with their helmets on and made a joke out of it. Someone wrote that and didn't see anything wrong with it.

[@snakeguy8646]

@@Harrinsain Well in the next episode they DO explain how they eat, it’s just so impractical that it’s laughable

[@grandarkfang_1482]

I love the -Empire- Republic's new -concentration- Focus Facilities! It's a beautiful way for them to rehabilitate ex-Imperials and use their talents for good instead of for evil! Long Live the New Republic!

[@BunkerFox]

It's not a "Mind wiping room", it's a "Re-education camp". Education is good, so that's why the good guys do it

[@nautdead3197]

If Mando was a good show and he was hunting bounties every week you would expect that to be the introduction to a multi episode arc where he has to hunt the scientist down

[@purpleemerald5299]

*_Don’t remind me of my crushed dreams…_*

[@miep3934]

Snap back to reality where "The Mandalorian" is a show about a father with severe mental issues being exploited to do errands by everyone around him.

[@Grivehn]

And then the rest of mandalorians get into the plot slowly, so we can learn about their culture, because he gets more and more famous and accomplished even amongst this hardcore society.. oh wait, thats the story for SWTOR's Bounty Hunter campaign.

[@HerohammerStudios]

That would've make any sense with the ending

[@primebailey5747]

Just realised Mando goes to Bo Katan saying he's gonna go to Mandalore and asks about the mines in the same system as Mandalore then goes to the outer rim where Tatooine is to get the driod then goes back to the Mandalore system 😂😂

[@Stoneador]

It was critical that he went back to a desert planet in the middle of nowhere to get a droid that can analyze the atmosphere. Nevermind the fact that droids like these must be everywhere in this universe and the fact that it would be stupid for any ship in the Star Wars universe not to have this technology already and the fact that he’s lived his whole life as a bounty hunter and never needed one because his whole thing in season 1 was not trusting droids.

[@kamilmatejka5299]

That's because he has such a good ship for long distance journeys!

[@Adrelinen]

@@Stoneador Don't forget that when the droid he does get has issues he then just does the scan himself because he always had the ability to, and never needed any droid in the first place.

[@Stoneador]

@@kamilmatejka5299 I’m glad that Episode 4 confirms that if Mando ever wants to eat, he’ll have to find a planet and then hide from Baby Yoda.

[@atom_gray]

or, he could just pressurize his helmet... that's a good trick.

[@reddoomedearth4020]

That mountain bit kind of blew my mind. I love using Ecumenopolis worlds in Stellaris, and that little detail brought so many ideas to mind.

[@Edax_Royeaux]

Star Wars Episode 1 was my first glimpse of an Ecumenopolis, and because of that I geeked out when Stellaris introduced them into the game.

[@reddoomedearth4020]

@@Edax_Royeaux Heck yeah, it was the same for me, but it was not in that order really. It was more seeing it, forgetting it, and then realizing "Hey wait isn't Coruscant an Ecumenopolis? Oh shi-!"

[@feco91]

I just read about the highest peak of Coruscant about a week before this episode came out. I was quite surprised to say the least when I got to see it myself. Worldbuilding is good.

[@datzfatz2368]

@@feco91 i also really like that they added that because this little tidbit has been a part of Coruscants Lore for literal decades by now and not many people know. It already existed in the old EU and we saw this exact same plaza in Clone Wars a couple of times!

[@steffanyschwartz7801]

I never really get the Ecumenopolis’s. Mainly since I don’t build the economy well and I’d rather not have all my food and energy die, with my fleets dying to. Usually just rebuild the one that’s on the precursor home world which is cool (I get others that aren’t that fun unfortunately beside the Cyberex). I always think about something like a mountain or a Central Park type area on the planet.

[@aqua96870]

It feels like one of the Andor writers stopped by for a day while they were filming this episode and changed the second half. Jon wasn't in town to notice.

[@purpleemerald5299]

Jon got the writing credit because he burst back into the studio at the last second to shove Mando back into the script.

[@aqua96870]

@Purple Emerald Yeah his favorite catering was in that day so he stopped by

[@purpleemerald5299]

@@aqua96870 The subplot up until the mindflayer scene was actually the writer’s metaphorical depiction of what it was like for them to pursue a script of higher quality in a grey sea of corporate schlock, only to be betrayed by Jon at the last possible second and have their creativity forcefully sucked away just to satisfy Jon’s endless desire for more Mando.

[@ianwilliams2319]

Having the highest mountain peak scene was really cool. It was unnecessary but sparks that drive to want to learn more about this world, there’s festivals and monuments that people attend and visit. And the scene sums up the story of the episode, she gets Pershing to reach out and do something he cares about just to get shut down by authorities

[@Edax_Royeaux]

I think the Thrawn books mention Han and Leia going skiing on Coruscant's mountain peaks and I didn't even question it in the books.

[@KoaWaylander]

@@Edax_Royeaux From memory the polar ice caps were sort of ski resorts as well as where a lot of Coruscant's water was stored.

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

So the buildings go higher than mountains...how do they not collapse under their weight?

[@Edax_Royeaux]

@@user-xx6vy9ri8p In Stellaris, one of the key technologies required to unlocking the ability to turn worlds into a Ecumenopolis is anti-gravity.

[@Serahpin]

@@Edax_Royeaux We have anti-grav tech so why can't we make a space elevator?

[@bandigamer8227]

My largest concern with what happens next is the possibility of Doctor Pershing’s character being completely different next time we see him because the mindflayer was set to “make evil” instead of “make good” You know this show isn’t above doing that.

[@HerohammerStudios]

I don't necessarily mind that. If written well (which it sadly won't be...) it could be really tragic, but great

[@professorexposition9768]

I like that "Big Happy Guy's" hypothetical story is basically the same setup as The Don's. Makes you wonder who his Captain Marvel will be.

[@ProjectRedfoot]

In the next episode, he gets his hand broken for speaking to a skinny blonde girl.

[@Phoenix0F8]

Long live Big Happy Guy

[@samuellund1377]

Rags' analogy was close. This episode is like cooking up a delicious steak and then feeding it to a baby who can't truly appreciate it.

[@robonator2945]

correction : throwing it to a vegetarian; they have the capacity to appreciate it, they just choose not to.

[@Batdude36]

When the fans try to say the monster grabbed him and the show itself tells them they are wrong.

[@sparkypack]

Mythosaurus Crocodillious hasn't done anything. 🦎🐸

[@Gazzsi]

@@sparkypack Mythosaur dindu nuffin

[@CJ-kg7yq]

The show creator's stupidity was underestimated

[@valentinegonsalves7322]

Expectations subverted. Your Snoke Theory sucks, kinda thing?

[@Batdude36]

@@valentinegonsalves7322 Nah, they tried to argue the sea monster pulled him in, but the characters in the next episode said he fell. It wasn't on purpose since the episodes were made beforehand, but it's still hilarious how the show unintentionally sabotages one of the defenses for it.

[@silasd7348]

The Pershing bit, while not amazing, is still an interesting story to be told with real characters. It was a nice breath of fresh air.

[@davidmendez3899]

I do love how this episode implies Mando just sorta fell into the water. this episode, and the next one, really not helping these guys look competent.

[@oros743]

It makes no sense. He sank faster than Bo Katan being thrusted underwater by her jet pack. That's not how water works. How dense is Mando?!

[@davidmendez3899]

@@oros743 was he just instantly knocked out? how does he not remember anything?

[@nhagan001]

@@oros743 mentally? Mando is quite dense. Physically? Also quite dense (Mfer never takes damage from ANYTHING in that armor). I like to think of that one scene in Futurma where Fry picks up Lelia’s pet’s poop… And she tells him it weighs an ungodly amount, and his hand drops comically. That’s how Dense Mando is.

[@stevealford230]

@@oros743 he's supposedly wearing a decent amount of thick armor, so that fast plummet might be the most plausible and accurate thing that's been portrayed by Disney Star Wars...

[@kw9849]

@@oros743 He fell at like 200mph, he really ought to be dead.

[@elsnarko3276]

The doctor touching his ear is an interesting tick. Afair he does it three times during the episode. It esp. recontextualizes the first time after you figured out what's going on.

[@lucasmorahan4248]

I think he does that because he was shot in the ear at the end of season 2

[@doublee343]

Oh god I absolutely can’t WAIT for their reactions to the utter nonsense of next episode! I was absolutely flabbergasted for like 80% of it

[@miep3934]

What do you mean? Next episode is a return to form for Mando. The competency of the Mandalorians, their rituals making sense, the plot being well structured and necessary, chuck full of character. It's all there. If people thought this episode was boring (which it definitely was because of the reasons why) then next episode will leave them not wanting. Next episode is what everyone calling this episode boring deserves...

[@Edax_Royeaux]

Pershing's cubical really gave me strong 1984 vibes, his office kind of reminded me of John Hurt's impersonal cubical and his job in that was to rewrite historical documents in the Ministry of Truth.

[@pwh1981]

It's also reminiscent of Syril's desk job in Andor, though it isn't quite as dystopic in its scale and scope; a nice touch, if it was intentional, to show that the New Republic is becoming different shades of the previous regime.

[@samdurfee6093]

I’m glad y’all liked it. I watched the first two episodes tearing it apart much to the dismay of my brother who likes the show. But then we watched this episode, he thought it was slow and a little boring. But I loved it.

[@samdurfee6093]

Episode 4 is shit BTW

[@blackdragoncyrus]

Did you explain to your brother why? Tell him why it's interesting and how it makes for good scenes in what they did.

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

Virgin Mandalorian simp vs Chad Andor enjoyer.

[@hegantank6495]

@@user-xx6vy9ri8p both are good in different ways, andor way better tho

[@williamcronshaw5262]

He thinks this was slow but he's a fan of the rest of the show? This show has always been slow as molasses.

[@justinstoll4955]

Episode 4 is the highlight reel as to why the Mandolorians are almost extinct. And between the Sarlac and the dinosaur, animals don't seem to digest at a regular pace.

[@Edax_Royeaux]

I can't imagine having sex with the helmet on is that much of a turn-on either.

[@dondoesdoodles9726]

I openly laughed during the entirety of their "training" sessions in the open of that episode. It made me realize that I could defeat a whole platoon of them.

[@jonathancullis9155]

I can't wait for the episode 4 EFAP. it was chock full of dumb writing.

[@purpleemerald5299]

@@Edax_RoyeauxNow that you mention it…if a mandalorian baby is born, and everyone see’s it’s face…does it immediately cease being a mandalorian? Or does everyone present need to wear blindfolds until they can place a tiny helmet onto the newborn? How the fu-

[@Edax_Royeaux]

@@purpleemerald5299 I think S3 episode 1 had a kid being inducted into the cult before the big alligator showed up eating everyone. So it implies you need to be of age.

[@spartansquid5931]

It's official, Pig guy from S1, Scientist, and woman are now the only characters in the show

[@Backfisch5927]

Who is pig guy? (Also bill burr)

[@sparkypack]

🐖😆?

[@HectorLopez0217]

@@Backfisch5927 I believe it’s the Ugnaut voiced by Nick Nolte who ends sentences by saying “I have spoken”

[@Backfisch5927]

@@HectorLopez0217 I completely forgot he even existed

[@spartansquid5931]

@@Backfisch5927 He's less of a character and more like a philosophy lightbulb that switched on between episodes (Bill Burr)

[@jacobcrist3080]

The Writers' Guild rules regarding writing credits indicate that when "&" is used to separate two writers, that means the script was a collaboration. So based on the whole show it is most likely that Jon wrote the Mando parts and Noah Kloor wrote the good parts. To provide contrast for those interested, if the credits had said "Written by Noah Kloor AND Jon Favreau" then per guild rules it would mean that Noah Kloor wrote the first draft (or the first however-many several drafts) independently, and then Jon Favreau wrote the subsequent final drafts. In this case, if memory serves me, the person doing the redrafting has to change at least 51% of the script in order to receive credit. At least that is the case with credits for film screenwriting, it may be slightly different for TV, not 100% certain on that. And when you see "Story By", like with Quentin Tarantino on Natural Born Killers for example, that means that at least 90% of the original script was changed.

[@MundaneThingsBackwards]

Neat!

[@sepenti]

Watching the mandalorian is like watching someone stream a video game on easy mode that has a story written by a six-year-old.

[@sepenti]

I commented about the story a bit too early, got to agree with you lads, that Coruscant bit really had the making's of something interesting!

[@Zeddyboi86]

It makes sense that the Australian guy is amused and entertained by the wildest looking creatures in the show. 🤣

[@buttermink2153]

He's also the resident animal lover of the group.

[@zanderman4059]

I don't know what is worse, the fact that the New Republic are stupid enough to leave ex imperial loyalist officer with ex imperial scientist of incredible value alone in a room together with a mindflayer device capable of wiping someone's memory or the fact that the mindflayer device used by the New Republic even has that setting to begin with, suggesting that they actually have a use for this setting or at least have the intent to use it in the future outside of "Rehabilitation."

[@Redyqar]

How is it worse? >are stupid enough to leave ex imperial loyalist officer with ex imperial scientist of incredible value Isn't it established they don't care about him? Like he literally asked them to support his research and they ignored him.Woman on the other hand is a valuable asset for their secret police (or whoever tests empire refugees). >suggesting that they actually have a use for this setting or at least have the intent to use it Of course they would save smth like this, why not? It is a tool like any other. If Republic is a real government (and not just cartoony good guys TM) they would save stuff like this. As example, after WW2 French used a bunch of German Panthers since they had limited options. Just because someone bad created/used a tool doesn't mean you must throw it away.

[@mcmordain]

@@Redyqar They save this torture device but destroy normal everyday equipment? Perfectly serviceable ships, science stations etc... This episode was stupid, just not regular mando stupid.

[@idiotcube]

@@Redyqar They could at least rewire it so that the higher voltage settings don't work. Or like, put some scotch tape over the knob so it can only be turned up to 2. Something? Anything? No, you're right, it would be foolish to tamper with this valuable Empire equipment in any way. Now let's tell those office workers to get back to destroying valuable equipment from the Empire!

[@Redyqar]

@@mcmordain So how about instead of complaining about saving torture device (something reasonable) you complain about destruction of other useful equipment (something what is actually unreasonable) ?

[@Brumy-os4tx]

I think it’s weird that they just walked into the star destroyer, also what is his research? He grabbed like a handbags worth of beakers, feel like you need more for cloning tech but whatever

[@EpicJasonX9000]

“I like her outfit!” “I like his outfit!” “I like the floor!” XD

[@Archphoenix1]

I remember when RIch and Mike said a few years ago that all these scripts sound like they were made by an algorythm and that isney chooses writers and Directors according to a program. Pretty sure they were right, and this is all written by AI and directed by no one. Its just a stunt coordinator, a vfx director and a producer+the AI script

[@Kernwadi]

🥇

[@cozzie4ra]

you mean the same RLM that liked Obi Wan because they are pro nepotism and essentially access media now

[@sparkypack]

Zod: We've been waiting for you. 😡

[@EnsignRedshirtRicky]

Noah Kloor was a staff writer on Boba, but Faverau took all the credit for the writing except for a single episode (Vespas I think) that he shared it with Filoni. So Kloor was probably only allowed to write tiny fragments, or just tasked with spelling mistakes. Because his episode inside this one was a million times better than Faverau's generic crap. TIE Interceptors cut out any luxuries that the Tie Fighters had so they would be more effective, and **were** the deadliest standardized (non-prototype or one-off conversion) star fighter the Imperials had. They have a top speed that is 125 kph greater than the N-1 that Mando is flying. So there is still zero continuity in this crap. To make matters worse the TIE Interceptors have a laser cannon on each of the four wingtips and two more under the cockpit (facing forward). They shred shields which is why they took down the X-Wings attacking the Death Star in A New Hope. So that entire fight was over in the first 20 seconds, and Mando & Crew died, easily. "But hey, the ship looked cooler than the standard one and the plot needed them to live. Geeze!" 🙄

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

There were no intercepters in a new hope, regular Ties took down x-wing and their shields just fine. Intercepters were introduced in return of the jedi, and are more likely a response to b-wings and a-wings (increased speed to take down a-wings and increased firepower to take down b-wings)

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

​@@matthiuskoenig3378 What about Vader's ship?

[@EiriUesugiKun]

Wait, since when has T/I had six laser cannons? Normal had two, T/I had four.. Is this some new Disney-canon? (my knowledge comes from the game TIE Figher and memory of never seen more than four lasers shot out of an T/I so .. very limited :D)

[@Gunleaver]

While I agree that it was probably laziness on the part of the writers to just have Bo Katan keep her helmet on, you can (in light of the next episode) headcanon/steelman that it was a choice, possibly unconscious on her part, to be more respectful of Din Djarin's religion, and that seeing Mandalore again, and reliving her childhood, and having Din Djarin be respectful of her, rather than mocking her privileged childhood or her realizing she does, in fact, have an attachment to Mandalorian tradition, and then seeing the mythosaur ... that's the kind of stuff that might just inspire a lapsed religious follower to start going back to church, maybe dipping a tentative toe back in the pool of faith. And it's not like she's really going to keep it on forever, or adopt their silly cult practices, but it can't hurt to be a little more modest. Maybe just because she is trying to reciprocate Din taking her story about her dad seriously.

[@Gunleaver]

And as far as the contrivance of Bo Katan keeping the helmet on to set up her acceptance: Remember in the last season of Buffy, when there was this evil entity that could take the appearance of dead people, but was non-corporeal, and could not touch or pick up anything, and then after that villain had been established, Giles shows up with the Slayers-in-training. He never touches anything, and, in fact, the script directions for the episode insisted that he not touch anyone or anything, or pick anything up or open doors, what have you, and this goes on for more than one episode, until the other characters realize this about him, but he's got a bunch of vulnerable people isolated and they have to run to find him, and it's all just a fake out and he makes a joke about molesting teenagers. And if you think about it for a minute, you start to wonder, why, if he's not actually an evil ghost, did Giles spend several days in the house with them, not shaking hands or hugging his close friends and surrogate daughter? Why did he never, where anyone could see him, interact with the material world? They introduced this nonsensical absurdity just for the fake out and tasteless joke. Bo Katan leaving her helmet on is nothing, next to that critically acclaimed show.

[@Kernwadi]

Seeing Metal on EFAP is the best part, always brightens my day.

[@Tridona]

Wholesome Chungus

[@helios4753]

Metal is the greetest

[@snakeguy8646]

I definitely did like the story from this episode, Pershing is actually a likeable person and you sympathize with him, but there are a few things that did get on my nerves, the New Republic being overtly stupid, the goth tomboy gf being left alone with Pershing, that’s really it honestly it felt completely new which was nice

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

Just setting up how incompetent and ideologically driven the New Republic was that they would seed their own destruction just to separate themselves from anything involving the Empire.

[@Calirex01]

I think showing the new republic as incompintent is great instead of the end all be all same way the republic wasn't great and was ruined by corporations such ass the trade federation

[@michaelfehskens6101]

He is, and his "amnesty" is dehumanizing, many people can relate to the way he is treated.

[@snakeguy8646]

@@michaelfehskens6101 Yeah I definitely found that odd since that’s a total Imperial thing right to assign simple numbers to people, so the NR seems to dehumanize the ex-Imperials as if they were caged animals locked in a box

[@Mr.ANDERSONYOURASCAL]

After 2 episodes of absolute lunacy and incompetence, I'll take this any day of the week. It actually has the foundations of a relatively decent story with characters that feel alive, and have emotions, as well as a believable and livable world, which is more than anything "Disney Star wars" has ever done (except maybe fo andor)

[@justinstoll4955]

Most interesting episode of The Mandolorian is the part of the one episode that doesn't feature Mando. And the most interesting part of The Book of Boba Fett are those two parts of two episodes that don't feature Boba Fett. Way to go Disney! Your writing team is fantastic.

[@valentinegonsalves7322]

It does. At the beginning, with a dumb long action sequence that doesn't serve the story. And I wished they cut that out so we could see more of the Scientist and Spy story.

[@The_Laughing_Cavalier]

The Diner of Dexter Jettster, Season 42, Episode 2 Dex has landed in Coruscant. After being exiled from the Jettster Clan, he has to bathe in the sacred deep fat fryers of Coruscant to restore his honour. He was on a side mission to get Max Rebo to play at Bea Arthurs cantina but he forgot about that in between episodes. Before he can enter the fryer, he is attacked by ewoks for some reason and is taken captive. Only Klaud, the peen monster from RoS with no arms can save him. Klaud runs to the nearest phone booth, but he can't dial any numbers because he has no arms. He then tries to fly the ship to go and find help but he can't work the controls because he has no arms. Finally, by a sheer coincidence, Mon Mothma was out looking to get some Fish and Chips with her family and stumbled across the scene, saving Dex. Afterwards, they all ate the Ewoks and have a lovely dinner. Dex finally enters the fryers, but then trips and falls in the deep fat friars, nearly cooking himself. Klaud jumps in to save Dex and manages to nudge him to the surface. With that Klaud, is also now officially a Jettster. They then drive back to the Dexter home but, unfortunately, one of Dex's nephews (let's call him.... Steve) got kidnapped by a bantha (they can fly now) and has been taken to the planet Kamino so he can be eaten at some point in the next ten years maybe. so Dex has to return to Tatooine (where all the sets for the series are) to find a man who knows a thing or two about banthas and water... Tune in next week to see another great cameo... I mean episode!

[@Kernwadi]

Fascinating... Truly brilliant and gay.

[@unpopularopinions7407]

unironically though i think you could make an interesting show out of dex’s story

[@ProjectRedfoot]

I'll bet they have really good fish, too...

[@rynobehnke8289]

@@unpopularopinions7407 Oh absolutely one could. No matter the era even. in the pre-prequle era can we explore hos criminal past in the outer Rim, how he become acquainted with Obi-wan and properly Qul-gon before and how he turned his life around to become a honest business owner in the center of the Republic. During the Prequel era proper could one explore stories that happen in his diner, him getting dragged into things by hearing shady business he shouldn't have heard or having things from his own past come back to haunt him. For the era between PT and OT and the OT it self could we explore how the takeover of the Empire changes the City, how he has to deal with the Empires Xenophobia and what else comes out of it. With so many ways you could go from here. From him going back to being a gangster, him standing his ground, him being pushed into the lower parts of the City and has to deal with far rougher customers, him joining the Rebellion and properly more. Based on how long his life span is could we even have something between OT and ST about him rebuilding his business after the Republic returns.

[@mickeymount7902]

I read ur comment on the last video and I had to let u know these r genuinely hilarious 😂

[@mellowtron214]

*I love the way Fringy says “oh”.* AEORH! UHEIRH!

[@ritenac6770]

17:20 one of the few good, or at least interesting, parts of Kenobi had a Clone begging for money. Doesn’t really explain what happened to all of them, but it’s implications of them being replaced/discarded made it a nifty moment

[@RaeNine]

This episode is like if you were watching playback from a VHS tape recording of a show, but partway through, someone had used the tape to record a different show, overwriting the previous show. You could've told me that was the case here, and I wouldn't be the wiser, lol.

[@laparka1138]

There is actually a pretty cool EU book called Tales from the Mos Eisley Cantina that has that same anthology premise that you guys were discussing. I would love to see it adapted into a TV show.

[@RandomSime]

I got all 3! Tales from the Mos Eisley Cantina, Tales of the Bounty Hunters (the ones hired by Vader in Empire), and Tales from Jabba's Palace. Boba Fett's story in Bounty Hunters is probably the best one.

[@callumpears1523]

​@@RandomSime there's also a Tales from the Empire and a Tales from the New Republic. They go into some pretty cool details, including post-Endor stuff.

[@RandomSime]

@@callumpears1523 Thank you so much! I had no idea about them. Didn't even think to look for more anthologies like that. I'm going to chase those up!

[@RandomSime]

@@callumpears1523 Just thought I'd return the favour maybe by adding that I just found a series of graphic novels designed to be spooky for Halloween released over the last few years called Tales from Vader's Castle and Tales from the Rancor Pit.

[@laparka1138]

@@RandomSime Yeah those are great.

[@john_squatson]

I kinda want to watch the show that somehow got into the middle of Mando episode, it has worldbuilding, and even characters.

[@COCObeanz0724]

Imagine an Andor type show but instead of taking place between 3 and 4, it takes place between 6 and 7 with Pershing or any other character.

[@snakeguy8646]

Imagine a show like Andor and it’s between 6-7 and it’s from the point of view of a small Imperial Cell, maybe a small ship with a couple storm troopers, couple navy troopers, some officers and crew and a captain

[@Klespyrian]

Imagine every star wars show was like Andor in terms of quality.

[@defeqel6537]

They could have had Mando be like this from the start, and have background stories which explore the galaxy for Mando's bounties / clients

[@snakeguy8646]

That’s such a good idea, like part of the episode is fleshing out his bounties every day lives meanwhile we constantly switch back to Mando tracking them down, then we could have actual moral moments like say a bounty wants to turn his life around for his family, goes outside and is instantly shot by Mando and sliced so he can provide proof, no emotion since Mando has 0 connection with the guy while the audience does

[@defeqel6537]

@@snakeguy8646 Indeed. And this would provide plenty of opportunities to show / grow Mando's character too. Could even have baby Yoda come into his life and show how that affects his actions (e.g. in season 2). It's amazing how easily commenters and podcasters can create premises and story arcs that are much better than what Disney / Hollywood produces. I'm not one for conspiracies, but the amount of shitty writers surely cannot be an accident?

[@snakeguy8646]

@@defeqel6537 I would think it has to be a lack of passion, and those with the passion and creativity either don’t have a big enough name or don’t know the people to get them the chances

[@romannumeralvii4285]

Even could have had the new republic hiring bounties on ex imperials who refused to join them. No matter who the imperial, even if they’re just trying to do good or live simply in the outer rim, creating a darker side to this New Republic. That if you can’t be changed into their ways, you’ll be erased.

[@ianjohnson182]

Here's an episode for your anthology pitch: In the Extended Universe (old cannon from books and such) the Imperial Remnant was lead by a Captain Pelion who gave the order to evacuate at the end of Return of the Jedi (He eventually became an admiral). One of the reasons he rose up through the ranks was because he recognized that the policies of the Empire made it not attractive to other races. So, one of the things that gets changed in the Imperial Remnant was the use of alien races in the Storm Trooper Corps. You could have a whole episode about an old drill sergeant trooper guy being told to take a bunch of aliens and see if it is even possible to make them into storm troopers. You could get different people's perspectives about what it means to be a Storm Trooper, what it means to be part of the Empire, what they think the Imperial Remnant's place is in the galaxy. You could show some fucking nuance within the people who worked for a galaxy wide bureaucracy. You could tell a star wars story. God, I can't wait for Andor season 2. On a parallel tangent, the girl lady from this episode also starred in 1 episode of The Rookie season 5, and her story there was one of the only parts of that season that wasn't absolute piss.

[@snakeguy8646]

You could tell the story of an Army Trooper and his every day life on deployment at his station, sometimes his station gets attacked by insurgents and him and his few comrades have to hold off multiple attacks (Very very US in Afghanistan vibes)

[@davidmendez3899]

it’s weird how this is blatantly worse than “Boba Book” becoming a “Mando” episode but this is a better quality. it’s just so random how it goes from “Main character” to “do you remember that character? he has a character now”. it’s like I said, this show is at it’s best when it pretends nothing has happened.

[@UnendedGalaxy]

Alright. Drinking game: take a shot every time you hear a Mando noise in an episode of this show.

[@IdiotCinema]

“Hello fellow Mandos! Who wants to practice fighting on dinosaur death beach again?” “I don’t know man, we lose a lot of kids of dinosaur death beach….” “🤷‍♂️”

[@kingvinoda3896]

People who think this was a boring episode don't deserve good things.

[@tomaxx1296]

I didn't think it was boring, I just thought it was awful.

[@GeeMannn]

this episode would be considered mid AT BEST if it was in an actually competent TV show. but becuase its in mandalorian its like finding a clean roll of toilet paper in a septic tank lol

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

By the way, the ship Bo-Katan flies on in the show wasn't stolen from the Empire. She uses it since the Clone Wars. I guess she was talking about the ship she took over in season 2 of Mando.

[@wishuponamonkeyspaw2458]

Andor: Features a scene of the Empire torturing someone with new tech so unethical even they think it's going to get banned. Mandalorian: Features the supposed good guys of the New Republic using Empire torture devises for "corrective purposes" and acting like it's all okay.

[@Party_Almsivi]

That kloor writer was like “We must be better…THAN THIS!”

[@ArcticWolf00Alpha0]

Whats sad is that this is the only episode in the entire season that he wrote...:(

[@GuardsmanGary_Ch]

@@ArcticWolf00Alpha0 what's baffling is that he was a staff writer for all 7 episodes of book of boba fett

[@ArcticWolf00Alpha0]

@@GuardsmanGary_Ch Wow...what the crap did he actually get to write?

[@SheevTalks]

Noah Kloor: "These iconic Star Wars characters I'm archiving, they're all coded to be destroyed." Jon Favreau: "Looks like it." Noah: "But they're all still perfectly good. They can still be put to good use. If I could have access to the script, I'd be happy to demonstrate how-" JON: "Look, can I be honest with you? We are really behind here. Not only do we have Ahsoka to assassinate, but we're still decommissioning Luke's entire character. I'm sure you understand."

[@TheSharkIsWorking_23]

46:58 “You mean I can take my starship over there and go home?” Oh, Mauler…just wait until Episode 5. Only Din & Bo have ships, no one else. How the hell do they recruit w/o ships?

[@Arko777777]

I'm laughing when I imagine this entire clan of Mandos getting on this planet via space bus from BoBF.

[@aquapendulum]

Yup, saw episode 5. Every clan survivors somehow went from Nevarro to their new hideout (briefly relocating on a ring colony, I guess) without their own ship AND without their hideout's location being found out. Even if they all travel through some network of interplanetary public transportation, there's no way their hideout can stay hidden by that method.

[@purpleemerald5299]

The giant alien crocodile destroyed every single one of their ships seconds after they all landed out of sheer spite and then went back into hibernation for years until it sensed the plot kicking back into gear.

[@lordofthepizzapie9319]

@@purpleemerald5299 Based crocodilus fucking with the cringe mandos.

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

I mean Bo's ship has enough space for all of them...

[@rebelscum1925]

Seeing the clones phase out is something that is explored in the Bad Batch show. It has plenty weaker filler episodes but if you watch only the episodes that focus on the larger clone story it's some really great story telling

[@zacharia5488]

Bad batch does have some fantastic episodes, but the show is dragged down by the filler shit

[@sivad1025]

Cut Bat Batch down to 10 episodes and you have a solid A- kids show

[@corruptangel6793]

It's so weird that the new Canon has the Empire phasing them out. In Legends, they were simply used until they died, and as more and more died, they obviously had to be replaced so gradually less and less of the Imperial army were clones. Only the 501st Legion remained pure.

[@sivad1025]

@@corruptangel6793 I like the change. It makes sense for Palpatine to diversify power so the clones can't be used to rebel against him like they did the Jedi.

[@corruptangel6793]

@Davis Parks that happened, too. The Kaminoens trained one of the batches to be loyal to them rather than the Empire, so the Empire...well, they did what they do best. That's when Palpatine initiated the Imperial Academies. Up to that point, the academies were only for officers, IIRC Having such a homogenized army bred for you is nice and all, but it comes with a lot of risks. It makes an obvious target, for one, and of course, there's the risk of contamination. There are a lot of dumb changes in the new Canon, but having Palpatine get ahead of the curve regarding the clones is I can get behind

[@ZionStrickland]

My reaction was that the whole “turncoat” thing was absolutely targeted on purpose. She put something into the Mind Flayer controls, and since we know that they’ve been desperately trying to puff up the world building to justify the Sequels, along with the Dr.’s cloning specialization and how he nominally wants to work ethically all ties together in my mind that this is setting up the justification for Snoke and eventually the cloning rebirth of Papa Palps. It was interesting to hear the more kind takes towards the plot that you guys had, though it could just be cynicism on my part

[@snakeguy8646]

One thing I don’t really like from a meta point of view is that it seems cloning is becoming THE evil motivation in Star Wars shows, The Bad Batch is centered on cloning with evil intent, same with Mando, 2 shows going in the same direction it seems?

[@josh11735]

I’m pretty sure I had the exact same reaction as the EFAP crew when the Pershing storyline started to pick up. I was thinking to myself the whole time “wait… is this meant to be an actual story…?” I mean it’s not fantastic or anything, but you really feel the bump in character/world building quality (funnily enough, reminds me of the whiplash the Boba Fett Mando episodes gave in terms of set quality). What a strange decision this episode was, but I’m actually interested to see where at least one thread is going.

[@darknessvamp]

I’d totally watch an episode about Empire Sanitation Officer Greeb which showed the story of a Rodian working for scraps cleaning in some Hutt Slum being present during an Empire Remanent resource negotiation with a cartel sect and one of the officers present takes notice of his efforts and requests his employment as part of the deal with the rest of the episode showing a montage of how his life improves starting as a janitor for an Empire Star Destroyer and how he gets recognition and promotion for his work e.g. a scene with a storm trooper coming up to him seemingly pissed off about something and demanding if he was a certain identification before revealing the Trooper was extremely appreciative of the work he’d put into getting rid of the smell of trash compactor fumes in the Trooper dormitory/bunks. Then the final part of the episode the star destroyer randomly is attacked by a republic strike squad and Greeb can only watch in horror as people are getting gunned down indiscriminately and so hides in a service tunnel while the sounds of blaster fire goes on outside before becoming eerily quiet expect for the sound of Greeb breathing and the sound of heavy boots coming closer to the service hatch before ending the episode.

[@Duncaii]

The more I think about it, the more the good part of this episode reminds me of the stronger plot points of 1984. Technician works in a government they don't particularly agree with, destroying information. Has ambitions they can't act on without help, ends up getting caught and having their mind wiped. Very interested to know if the writer(s) had it as an influence while planning the episode out

[@Gaia1054]

Mando is this *supposedly, badass bounty hunter can take on hundreds of storm troopers and with his armor he’ll come out without a scratch. But put him next to a pool of water and he’ll slip like he’s in a cartoon. Still can’t comprehend how he fell so fast Bo couldn’t keep up

[@HectorLopez0217]

We now return to Rags’ favorite character

[@sparkypack]

Rags 💙 Yeti guy

[@andrewlevin6331]

This episode: intriguing, interesting story about someone trying to readjust from living in a totalitarian regime to living in a republic that has its own dark side. Imbecilic fanbase: where Pew-Pew? Star Wars needs Pew-Pew.

[@RandInternet]

“How do you do the Heimlich maneuver or CPR on Mandalorians?” Well, it starts with Grogu pushing random buttons and ends with Mando’s defibrillator being activated.

[@adriansuknjov9757]

Somehow felt disappointed seeing Mando again in the end. It reminded me that the show will still focus on him

[@Gyohdon]

this felt more like a black mirror episode than mando

[@DigiMyst]

Huh. I didn't want to die watching this episode.

[@leakyboat224]

Same for me... It's weird. That probably means that I should actually go and watch Andor.

[@DigiMyst]

@@leakyboat224 Andor's like the last gasp of clean air before plunging back into sh*t.

[@Zakorrin]

Star Wars Rebels and The Bad Batch did discuss some of the ethical issues and phasing out of the clones. Their aging is accelerated, not sure by what factor but in rebels (~14 years after Order 66), clones that served under Anakin were looked to be in their 60s. Some also seemed to be experiencing severe mental deterioration. There was also the inhibitor chips. When activated, they inhibited the will of the clone, making them essentially highly capable droids made out of flesh that would follow any order (hence why all but an handful of clones who either had their chip removed or it was somehow damaged killed their Jedi commander without question or hesitation despite generally being very loyal to them and friendly with them). To my understanding, they were phased out largely because it was very expensive to create, raise, and train clones for at least a decade before they could be fielded whereas the empire had no end of backwater planets inhabited by people who could be killed over a day's worth of food. Much cheaper to give them basic training, food, housing, and a bit of money than continue cloning.

[@thomasbrown6723]

It’s hilarious how both in mando and the bad batch or really most Disney’s Star Wars shows the best parts of the shows are when they don’t involve the main characters in most/ all of the episode

[@MBS-HomuZombie]

ewww, what's story doing in my mando! Jokes aside, damn... i wanna see more Dr dude and the shady lady and those 3 other dudes.

[@Klespyrian]

Dr. Dude and the Shady Lady sounds like a perfect name for a movie or book I would enjoy seeing.

[@Kernwadi]

“This is the way to find the way of The Way.” -Bilbo Baggins

[@dire213]

every mandalorian should have a flask of the living waters so that every time they need to remove their helmet, they can just boop their finger in the flask after. or just remove the helmet rule altogether.

[@sakkra93]

At least in Legends, Rebel pilots held a degree of fear for TIE Interceptor pilots because many considered them to be crazy, flying in extreme ways seemingly without any self-preservation instinct.

[@FantasySportsZen]

I'm just glad they make the female characters look as much like men as possible. So stunning and brave.

[@angryfarfetchd3015]

On the topic of what happened to the clones, that's something that gets explored in the bad batch show, granted a lot of it is filler content, but the episodes that do focus on the greater universe (or even just episodes without the bad batch themselves ironically) are actually excellent

[@lunaticred0]

I honestly stopped watching that show after the S1 finale, when the possibility of a clone rebellion plot line got fucking shafted for future filler.

[@angryfarfetchd3015]

@@lunaticred0 yeah there's a few pretty excellent episodes in season 2 though, definitely recommend going through them all and just skipping anything filler

[@MaxRovensky]

Someone on the production team ordered Aliexpress Andor and lucked out with the seller

[@catmasterOP]

"He didn't slip he was pulled down by a fish!" "That's way more respectable! /s" I am dying 😂 love all you ̶g̶u̶y̶s̶ people! (edit: and Rags!)

[@hectorbarrera8046]

Blacksmith: This is the living water. I wished they had Boba there, he's an expert on water and grew up around it.

[@fffx2]

Disney will never say WHY cloning is illegal because it would necessitate making a prolife argument.

[@sophisticautistic5453]

How much do you want to bet that Mando's "darksaber be heavy" problem won't ve brought up in this season?

[@MisterLindsay]

The already highlighted it in the fight sequence on Mandalore with the troll people. Mando was using the Dark Sabre, but was clearly struggling with it.

[@aquapendulum]

It stopped being a problem as soon as Bo Katan picked it up.

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

Mando canae get it up…

[@ThheShadowKnight]

33:14 part of me thinks that the reason she chose to fry his brain at the end is out of guilt? Like maybe after having gotten to know him during the journey she would have felt horrible seeing him walk around as a shell of his former self and felt it was better he died the man he was than live on as a drone. God I want to see more of that than anything else really

[@stevelucky7579]

This was a great break. The story was compelling, the stakes were great, it was wonderfully enjoyable.

[@armoredghost918]

I’m afraid their brains will explode next episode. We’ll need to put them in the mind flayer so they have the strength to go on. Oh…my…god. I think I just figured it out. Everyone else must have a mind flayer in their own homes that makes them think the show is better than it actually is. It just doesn’t work on this episode because seeing the machine breaks the illusion

[@josephjackson9679]

Gideon's assistant that they flashbacked to... is played by an actress who was a major part of the last season of my favourite spoof tv show. Z Nation is ball-bouncingly funny, and she plays a mix of George Washington and Lincoln in a zomboe apocalypse.

[@garyluc98]

Noah Kloor was the staff writer for all 7 episodes of The Book of Boba Fett.

[@reaps912]

41:28 “can you give us a sympathetic story about stormtroopers” Rags needs to check out the Stele Chronicles novella; ostensibly a lead-in/tutorial for TIE Fighter, it gives us a background for an Imperial Fighter pilot. There’s even a small moment where he and his friend are roasting each other for their chosen career paths (his friend being a stormtrooper telling Maarek Stele about how flimsy TIE Fighters are, and Stele retorting that his stormtrooper armour still won’t deflect a direct blaster hit) The game itself goes on to build Stele up as something special, but nearly the entire first campaign is situated on a remote border station (effectively customs inspection), and a solitary Star Destroyer Anyway, that single comment from Rags reminded me of how, way back in the 90s, I thought it’d be super-neat to have a police procedural-style show on a DS9-style backdrop, situated light years away from anything concerning the usual suspects. Show me how the “regular” (lower-ranked Rebels, Imperials, independents, pirates, criminals etc) people in this universe _do_ things

[@samwallaceart288]

Yo the lady helping doctorman break bad _would_ make an excellent Abby. She's got that "low-key piece-of-shit who may or may not cave your skull" energy, but likable and chill enough where you kinda wanna get along with her even though she's sus.

[@tyo9954]

I think the doctor makes sense, he’s a character from the mandalorian, it would make sense if his story continued/concluded in the mandalorian instead of some random short or series.

[@kylefrank638]

It's not integral to understanding the story, but I still seriously appreciate with a panel like this, you can get Metal pointing out Pershing's nervous tick; something no one else caught seemingly, and it's only a minute detail, but it's still interesting to see the thought put into the performance, script or direction.

[@generaljackripper666]

There's an old quote from the EU: _The TIE Fighter pilot is suicidally brave, the TIE Defender pilot is bloodthirsty, but the TIE Interceptor pilot is both."_

[@AkhSeth]

What I found rather disturbing is that New Republic is now a terrible regime that treats pows not as people but as numbers and if they dont "behave" they will be mindflayed which further destroy the legacy of og characters from ot. Or what is even worse these writers think its okay to mind wipe enemies of the state. Also I got instant bad vibes from the imperial lady that was interested in dr. Pershing. I was wondering why for some time and then it hit me like seven iron. She is probably the "best" cast for the most beloved character from Tlou2.

[@davidmendez3899]

first they made the mechanic lady seem more scumy, now the republic. when is Carl Weathers gonna touch a child?

[@grandarkfang_1482]

Where the hell is Princess Leia in the New Republic? Bail Organa and the Organa family were very prominent in the Resistance and the Republic, so why do Leia, Luke, Chewie, and Han have absolutely no presence in the New Republic? _That's_ an interesting story in and of itself.

[@Redyqar]

> which further destroy the legacy of og characters from ot I don't think so, mainly because there is no connection to them. We can speculate if they approve of this, but realistically OG characters may as well not exist in the world itself. So in a way republic being evil ish is irrelevant to the OG cats.

[@rynobehnke8289]

@@grandarkfang_1482 I think in canon did the revelation that Vader is Leia's father somehow manged to complete destroy her political career.

[@TheNoonish]

Yeah, I got that worry, too. You can show a bit of a dark side to the New Republic without it undermining the OT if you also show the New Republic actually being good in other places. But since this the most we've ever seen of the New Republic, it's fair to assume the whole system is corrupt like this. So our heroes fought and sacrificed to put another dystopian, crappy government in place. In another continuity, this is just a rogue element of operators on Coruscant who are up to something nefarious, but the Republic itself has a much better rehabilitation or reconciliation project for former Imperials, and that's fine. But Disney has shown us nothing to say that this isn't the absolute status of the Republic everywhere.

[@under_score3829]

17:18 MauLer "I don't think the TV shows or movies have really done anything to explain what happened to the clones." The Bad Batch explores that in detail. Season 1 showed how the Empire very quickly began conscripting non-clone Stormtroopers because they are cheaper (and something major happens at the end of Season 1 that I won't spoil). Season 2 explores legislation discussed by the Senate as to the fate of the Clones and whether they should be represented. I think in the original EU, there was a story where a bunch of clones found lightsabers and led a coup years after Revenge of the Sith, and Sidious was like "Forget this. We need different soldiers." But in Disney Canon, the Empire began replacing clones as quickly as possible, and clones soon became displaced veterans who kept getting crummier and crummier assignments. You guys should seriously watch the Bad Batch. It's actually pretty decent. And you don't need that much of the Clone Wars to understand it. Some important episodes: 101 "Aftermath" (picks up with the Bad Batch during Order 66) 110 "Common Ground" (explores how the Empire treated a Separatist world it took over) 114 "War Mantle" (introduction of normal stormtrooper conscripts) 115 "Return to Kamino" (explains what the Empire did with Kamino) 116 "Kamino Lost" (Season Finale) 203 "The Solitary Clone" (explores Clones beginning to question the Empire, along with more Separatist stuff) 207 "The Clone Conspiracy" (explores Senate legislation to determine the fate of clones) 208 "Truth and Consequences" (part 2) 212 "The Outpost" (explores how much clone soldiers will tolerate when they're treated like garbage and when they'll snap)

[@Richard_Frost]

MauLer: "They're repurposing old tech!"... Did you mis the part where the whole reason the scientist dude was convinced to go do his own research is because his superior literally told him "That tech is evil cause it's empire" and the scientist said "Well, yeah but it can still be used for good..." and the guy said "Mmmm yeah no, you can file a form that'll never get seen, but otherwise throw it all into the incinerator."

[@incubussatyrius4965]

32:00 I doubt Elia Kane didn't appear happy when Pershing agreed to break the rules and leave the perimeter because a potential testing of him by her failed, but to foreshadow her sinister intentions. She wouldn't really need to risk to erase his mind later if setting him up was just a stepping stone in her new career; her word against his would have likely been sufficient. That interpretation would also appear less woven into the larger frame story of Rebels/New Republic vs Empire, but seem rather a coincidental tangent. I think she's a double agent for the Imperial Remnant, her eating the Imperial ration cookies at the end symbolizing her attachment she still has (that "yearning back to the old times" they spoke of earlier). Her goal is probably to conceal what the Empire has been up to in regards of that specific science project about creating Force-sensitive people/clones, which ultimately leads up to the First Order, and which the New Republic apparently never learned about.

[@MemeCopium]

was looking forward to this, cant wait till next episode when they see how we're right back to nonsense