The Analysis Of Sun Yang

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[@django9858]

Thanks Brenton. Sun Yang is my "virtual mentor" along with Katy Ledecky and Ian Thorpe. Yes I remember the performance enhancing scandal. That still doesn't take away from his technique. This guy has phenomenal technique. Aspiring to his style is perfect for mental focus, and then just like handwriting, we gain development of our own unique style and peculiarities. Sun Yang is text book for starting to professional swimming, with our own habits layered over his. Thanks Brenton ...

[@stephanearthaud8308]

You're totally right, Django ! We have to develop our "own style"... Let's remember it is "free style". So, nearly every thing is allowed, if not forbidden by official texts & rules. It just has to be efficient ! Let's notice there have been little developpments since many years, except the idea of "whole length underwater, in a dolphin kick". This is "the fastest style" (Following most fluid mecanician studies) , but not for 1500 m !

[@BradMinus]

I have been obsessed with Sun Yang since 2012. Thanks, Brenton for doing this analysis. So COOL!

[@warrdavid1]

Also importantly for a distance swimmer, Sun Yang's breathing pattern maximizes blowing off carbon dioxide in addition to taking in oxygen.

[@robertogandara6784]

Breathing is essential RIGHT?!

[@emir2750]

@@robertogandara6784 Actually, there's a new technique where you patiently wait for 3 million years to evolve gills thus not requiring breathing at all. I am practicing it!

[@sscswimmer1]

The kick timing is something that I've found incredibly important. My theory on it is that the legs are always going to want to drop, and them being down is where they want to be if you didn't kick. Just before the downkick, you're at your lowest point in the water and sinking. Then when you fire it, you raise your hips and legs back up towards the surface and that puts more weight onto the catch. Sort of like a seesaw through the core/chest (since we're submerged, the buoyant chest will act as the anchor point of a seesaw), when the hips rise, the shoulders to go down and you'd then get more leverage onto that catch so you have something to pull against.

[@allydea]

Nice description/explanation!

[@NickMaovich]

that makes sense, thanks!

[@stephanearthaud8308]

Your theories are valid, sscswimmer. As well these of "gravity" as these of the "buoyant chest". This one, particularly, is the way I taught my son to swim. I explained him "compared densities" as "the physical explanation of floating or sinking". He was 5 years old, and I swear he understood it clearly. So, your téeories are not only "valid", they are "fundamental to the beginner, and for ever" ! Thanks ! You catch the right ideas and use the right words !

[@chanzhao3379]

This description is game changer. My TI coach told me to initiate the rotation from kick then hip then spear the diagonal arm into water in a continuous motion. But he never told me the why. Then there is this consistency issue. On good days when I get that right, i can swim 2km nonstop at easy pace. On the other hand, I often struggled to swim more than 200m on bad days. The uncertainty really kills the motivation since i would never know if its going to be a good day or bad day til i am 200-300m in the pool. The chance is good to have a bad day due to freshness and i often muscle through the water initially then get tired and do whole bunch of 100m easy “intervals”. Thank you.

[@chrisjameson6243]

All I can say is wow. Brilliant analysis.

[@aaroiseverything]

his high elbow is just amazing

[@smb06]

I feel like I'd rip my shoulder out of socket trying that haha

[@johnturner1562]

Your high.

[@markwu1765]

This is the greatest high elbow catch of all time.

[@user-gc7yl2ri3u]

Popov has better

[@uthmanabdus-samad3732]

I could watch him swim all day. Thank you.

[@stephanearthaud8308]

Yes, it is not only efficient, it is also esthetic ! Perhaps "any effortless work" has a captivating power... It might well be ! "we would like to understand, we, the common people".

[@peterbacklund44]

The best swimming analysis ever! Thank You

[@steveabonyi5443]

Thanks for this analysis. I wish I'd seen it 8 months ago as a returning to the pool triathlete after 10 years out of the water! This has the entire stroke captured in one video. Spread fingers on entry, removes more bubbles from hand and helps knock bubbles off arm, my coach always told me off for that! It just seemed natural and helped my balance stopping my had slipping either side of train track. The other confirmation for me was the 4 beat kick timing. Yes, yes, yes. Now I get it that I am doing it right. I've never heard this before. 1 balance kick one one side, glide, then 3 kicks on other side. I've always done this but thought it was wrong. In addition to your awesome catch videos I paid for and was the best $10 I've ever spent, ever, I now have the tools of a perfect stroke. Now it's just time in the water. You have no idea how brilliant this was for me. Confirmed I'm doing it right and now I can focus on swimming and not thinking others are faster because of my poorer technique. Thank you so very much. Your videos and analysis are what every swimmer must just watch to become the best they can. Thank you again, brilliant.

[@robvino]

Thank you, that was great break down. When I get out of the wall I often feel out of breath, sure I need to improve my lung capacity but the 1-per-stroke I'll definitely give it a try.

[@houtansadeghi]

Well done for the work you put in this video. Very detailed analysis. Must have taken ages. I could watch these long distance swimmers all day specially the ones that look so smooth and relaxing like Ian Thorpe.

[@dossenheimer]

Thanks for the analysis. Sun is one of the best distance swimmers and almost everything is perfect! Just genius!

[@gouzi8345]

All things apart, he really is a good swimmer .

[@tomasgjoka7289]

He is a really good doped swimmer*

[@nealhood7607]

He is the best.

[@davidv5963]

@@tomasgjoka7289 You could dope up any other swimmer and they wouldnt be able to swim the times he has Swam. LA didnt win 7 Tours because of doping. He won it because he was the best of his time.

[@theskywalker8416]

@@tomasgjoka7289 he is , and without it he is a bad person period

[@88feji]

@@davidv5963 The investigation revealed that Armstrong doped in very very extreme multiple ways and amount, much much more than any other dopers during that time ... thats the reason why he was able to win so many Tours. If he had not relied on such extreme doping, he would probably only be one of the best cyclist, but no way would he be the best every single year ... the clean cyclists cannot be under-estimated, its not fair since they never had a chance to compete against a clean Armstrong fairly ..

[@kristinesorensencardoso2595]

Thank you for this analysis!

[@1ajdelacruz]

Catchup drill + kick rotation perfection by Sun Yang - fastest of all time!

[@axelmottard622]

I'm french and in France Camille Muffat was the definition of the perfect stroke and smoothness. She swam with a maximal extension of the arm and took the time to bring it forward. Interesting to see and analyse. She and Sun have a very similar technique, she pushed it to the maximum

[@johnswimcat]

Fascinating video. Whatever else one has to say about this swimmer and his medals this is a very good freestyle stroke and much can be learned from it. Three things I would mention, the left hand and arm do tend to "plane" a little after entry which will increase resistance, the head position looks a little high when breathing, resistance again, and the leg bend could be reduced a little. The amount of leg bend may be related to the head position when breathing and also to the left arm position after entry. However I know from experience how hard it is to get these things right when you're in the water. If I swim again I shall be working on stroke technique above all else

[@Wasteo]

Great video, thank you! I also do one breath per stroke before and after turns, and always thought it's an indicator of bad hypoxia tolerance. Maybe it is, but I'm so relieved to see elite swimmers doing the same.

[@aaronwilmes]

I have done this also, but just because I was complettly on the limit (1500m--> 16:10, short course).

[@smw2896]

To me, Sun Yang swims like a whale. Powerful, elegant and deceivingly fast

[@natashajohnson186]

Thanks Brenton that was super helpful, what a beautiful almost graceful swim ... not making fun of guy it just looked effortless! Haha pun not intended . Thanks anyways

[@embradfield]

The video is paused at 20:30 to emphasize the relationship of the kick to the catch. But what seems even more striking is that BOTH arms are simultaneously into the 'Catch' phase. Sun's front quadrant swimming style seems almost like a catch-up drill

[@stephanearthaud8308]

I especially like what you say "you wouldn't necessarly recommand to breathe at each stroke"... But you would recommand everybody to try "to find his own best style !" Personnaly, I do that, and I even come back to the surface "on a back stroke"... It allows to swim under water in the best position (back and profile, to use a dolphin propulsion), and, moreover, to have a good vision in 3D (up to the roof and the surface), which allows you to keep the optimal direction underwater (straight forward, in 3D) (It is effortless, and my lungs are full of oxygen, they act like buoys !!!)... Last but not least, your video shows it clearly at 20'12' up to 20'22", Sun Yang use a kind of "yaw motion", while his body is bended, in profile ! I had noticed that, but your video catches it with a remarkable acuity, because, of course, that "yaw motion" shouldn't be applied to an horizontal plan !!!. It becomes particularly efficient while Sun Yang turns his head, and body, to catch his breathe at the surface. Following me, that very specific "yaw motion" should be pointed out, and explained, because, as most of Sun Yang's specificities, it needs to be well understood. It would particularly hurt, if you did it in the wrong way !!! But, when you think of the perfect stroke, you immediatly come to Sun Yang ! Let's definitly, point out the name of that stroke: FREE STYLE TECHNIQUES !!!! Let's give it its sense, let's use it !

[@gosiasamosia7796]

i could watch all the time Thorpe 💕

[@greggenito4037]

Breaking the patterns to tune with personal strengths!

[@migueldasilva143]

Florian Wellbrock‘s stroke ist pretty decent

[@tonyshihoutang6576]

From SunYang body position , I guess his style mainly customise to his stroke and kick where his kick and his legs stretching not reach ballerina so I guess his core of body has been adjusted and customised to his kick and stroke technique

[@delta5lover]

I thought you might have commented on how he slightly twist his hand so his thumb is up after entry. Any comment on that?

[@anitasik8508]

Sun Yang no doubt is one of the most talented swimmers. He also worked so hard to achieve his successes. Many western swimmers simply can't accept Sun Yang's success. It's sad to see people set Sun Yang up. Oh well, no matter what, Sun Yang is always being welcomed at his home country - China. It's great to see this video and thanks for sharing his techniques!

[@ryanhuang3875]

he does have annoying personality to be honest. the way he and his team operates. not everyone likes him. but it has nothing to do with his achievement in the sport. still one of the greatest.

[@minnil7927]

@@ryanhuang3875 how many others would be better with cheating tho

[@jeenjeanjeen]

Stroke goals

[@markkeane1317]

Thanks

[@miboxmibox7834]

It is likely to have a analysis of Katie Ledecky and Mack Horton together, their 2 beat kicking are beautiful

[@lucabonini2233]

Greg ❤❤❤

[@U-Thought]

Wow....it's most part discipline!!!*Breathing,*BodyPosture,*MaintainedFocus.

[@newoap]

Next Katie Ledecky please.

[@deepzerocool]

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[@lexsoft3969]

Sun Yang vs Yanick Agnel in 200m free final at 2012 Olympic : two tall swimmers with long stroke and nice high elbow arm recovery.

[@smw2896]

Agnel did his turns much better. Sun Yang caught up with him in the middle of the pool, but Agnel will pull away with each turns.

[@davidsamuelsohn5324]

Love this. Obviously Yang is a great swimmer, and your breakdown of his stroke is terrific. My only point of disagreement - and really it's more a perspective - I don't believe Yang has a four beat kick. I think it's a 6-beat kick, but unless he's sprinting, he sort of drifts through two of those kicks during his breath. You can almost see that he is kicking but not hard enough to really count. So I think it's a 6 beat kick or as I prefer to describe it, a 1-2-3 Kick. Great job though!!

[@lexsoft3969]

Make an analysis of 2012 Olympic men's 200m freestyle final : Yannick Agnel vs Park Tae Hwan vs Sun Yang. Agnel won by one body length.

[@Diderot68]

Sun Yang swims very gracefully, and with speed.

[@traveler3482]

Thanks for great video. My question is : 04.15 in the video would'nt be more area for both hand to push back if we finish our strokes with straight arms? Why little bend is should be done

[@acameron9520]

I'm not a coach, but here is my guess. When the arm is fully extended and parallel to the surface of the water at the very end of the stroke, the velocity of the hand at that instant is directed straight up when it is more important to have the hand make a smooth transition to FORWARD movement. This allows for a more efficient transition into the next stroke. In the more power-based sprint races, this is less of an issue. Many sprinters such as Ben Proud and Nathan Adrian finish their strokes with much straighter arms. However, in longer, endurance-based races, I would imagine that efficiency is more valuable than pure power. Interesting question!

[@KeithHiew]

Thanks for this, Brenton! Are you allowed to swim already in Australia?

[@blyat2477]

Yep, we are

[@almostfancyconnoisseur8929]

Do an analysis of Ian Thorpe

[@warrdavid1]

Is there a drill to practice the kick and catch timing?

[@seanqin2517]

i think we missed the most important aspect, his whole body seems undulating at right place at right time, the movement of individual parts (legs and body) sometimes seem unorthodox, but putting them together he moves more like a marine mammal, this is something no other swimmers have. i think this is main reason he only needs 27 strokes per pool length.

[@deepzerocool]

Thanks for the analysis! Question on the kicking, do you think his knee bent a bit too much?

[@nannettemackenzie5108]

ya maybe but makes up with pull?

[@eestebannperalta5258]

Next Ian Thorpe pliiis

[@jimwaldron302]

Why not in open water do you say that’s not advisable? Thank you

[@visionaryr]

I have a question, if someone can answer. Before exiting, should the elbow pop out of the water, and then the elbow straightens slightly back in the water and then elbow again exits first along with hand? Is this better or we keep the elbow in the water and then exit with elbow and hand?

[@murtinirarr767]

Sun Yang's "two leg kick beat" coupled with 4 beat kick pattern , that is a variation of 6 kick beat, is likes a full propulsion for him, that style made him glide easy effortless compare to other swimmer. Sun Yang stroke arm turnover is perfect, that style was second to noone.

[@dakzer55]

I am just a beginner, and found if I stick to a 3 strokes per breath, at some point, i will sometimes need to do a few 2 stroke breaths when I do a faster lap. So, I think your video also shows that sun yang doesnt really have a set breathing pattern 100% of the time. Could you do some videos on changing your breathing pattern whilst swimming long distance. From 1km, to 3km. thank you

[@alexandercaedmonbranum8801]

Breath 2s on anything above a 200m

[@dakzer55]

@@alexandercaedmonbranum8801 assuming you mean breath every two strokes. Thats doesn't help and work for bilateral breathing. Again, my main point was that if you get uncomfortable, or panic after a massve wave, you need to catch a breath out of rhythm, which could throw you off. Then after that revert back to a breath every 3 strokes or whatever pattern is comfortable.

[@MsDragonbal776]

@@dakzer55 I know exactly what your talking about. When I first started swimming, my swim pattern was two breather every other stroke. Once I realized it was slowing me down, I switched to a 4-2-2-4 stroke pattern to maintain momentum

[@0SKBooth0]

Shout out to the 4 beat kick being the compromise when my coach had me move away from the 1-beat

[@arbestcrontisb4248]

I my self am a 1 beat kicker...I find it really difficult to sustain a 4 beat- kick...also it seems really unnatural to me. How did you manage to make the change?

[@jaimecorvus6373]

how about his hips going nearly vertical on the breathing stroke ? is that good ?

[@lightyearahead]

Breathing on every stroke just before a wall. This is interesting.

[@drym3943]

Yes and quiet smart to not be suffocating during the underwater and so more regularity in oxygen

[@axelmottard622]

I always do that to breath enough before the turn, essential for me to be efficient after the turn. Not so rare in endurance races

[@michaeltran9270]

Michael phelps, Caleb dressel, and Katie ledecky next please

[@pedrogomes2399]

I don't know if you agree with this or not, but IMO it is the hip rotation, more than the shoulder flexibility that allows Sun Yang to have that high elbow catch. I think that as he rotates to the side of the arm that's is catching the water, it becomes easier to do have an high elbow because of the torque of the hip. What do you think?

[@kappalol4780]

You can do high elbow with no hip rotation, but you can’t do high elbow with immobile shoulders. Hip rotation, does however give you more push onto the water, before the pull part of the stroke.

[@kappalol4780]

Also, where hip rotation really comes to play is the push part of the stroke

[@mortenbrando]

To me it seems like he is kicking diagonal - so not power kicking same side as hand entry but in fact opposite. So when he breaths to the right side there's a power kick from the left leg as the right hand enters the water. Or am I wrong? Watch from 12 to 12:10 min into the video.

[@swiminlovelyplace5203]

Just one word about Sun Yang : CONNECTION

[@tomasgjoka7289]

Just one word about sun yang: DOPING

[@yxsian9082]

@@tomasgjoka7289 still good technique

[@asl2g4u]

His ankles aren't as flexible as I would expect for one of the world's best swimmers. (yes, very nit picky of me)

[@bronxcheer1484]

asl2g4u- the perpendicular feet are very noticeable

[@jacquelined-m8273]

I noticed the same thing

[@frederickbousquet6019]

Make park tae hwan plz

[@willchan2778]

How much would you say height matters in swimming?

[@kevinabalo]

I can replicate his stroke, and achieve just under half his speed. I put it down to my age :)

[@rianrushwood1426]

I mean there's also the doping thing so don't be too tough on yourself

[@joseardzm]

27 strokes per length his stroke freq is low, so he needs to breath every 1-2 strokes than someone doing 40 strokes per length and doing around the same time per length

[@baraklevy3344]

If you really want to be picky you could say Yang doesn't have the best ankle mobility on his right foot Plus he really incorporate extra breathes whenever he feels like maybe even more than others. You can see a lot of double breaths into the wall nowadays for long distance swimmers, but Sun yang breath a lot more even when coming out of the wall and sometimes during the middle of the pool. And still , unbeatable. I guess 6.7ft + extreme early catch and elbow/shoulder mobility does the trick !

[@albertomakyct]

Next oussama mellouli please🙏🏼

[@jangaroo2011]

Front Quadrant: draw a circle with the shoulders at the center. Divide the 360 degree circle into fourths (quadrant!) = 90 degrees = [vary the rotation of the quadrant, but let's pick 45 degrees up in the air above the water surface and 45 degrees below the water surface = 45 + 45 = 90 degrees.] Now, put both arms into this 90 degree arc AT THE SAME TIME MOMENTARILY! This is FRONT QUADRANT. Question: what does this have to do with the quarter of your body at your feet? ANSWER: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!! He completely misses the four main points of Sun Yang's stroke that gives him so much power to be a world record holder and Gold Medalist! (NOTE: Absolutely NOT catchup stroke where you almost slap the hands together!)

[@amadeusradio9608]

Open the pools !!

[@castanzes]

What about the hand ? Shouldn't the fingers be together ?

[@davidbrito7821]

Brasil 👏👏👏

[@proudindian3942]

12:30

[@tonyshihoutang6576]

Besides analyse freestyle , if it is possible that you can analyse also breaststroke too

[@AccordGTR]

It's crazy how he spreads his knees so wide. Drops his shoulder a bit. Not perfect yet

[@nabilhashmi7976]

I am not sure about the timelines in regard to this event and what I'm about to ask, but would it make a difference if a swimmer was on steroids, allowing them to do or get away with things or techniques that one normally could not?

[@stephanearthaud8308]

I have read a very good book about it, that answers your questions with no doubt. The answer is "No"... Because, applying strength to unefficient techniques & tactics does not make you move forward. In the professionnal doping, those people have a name. They are called "boilers"... Because they are consuming extra fuel without moving at all. And one thing is sure, at least: Sun Yang is not a boiler ! Which is the purpose of the video: "his is one of the best swimmers ever", whatever his food & regime !

[@panner11]

Doping is not magic lol. It makes you stronger not alter your technique.

[@johnturner1562]

Finke is coming.

[@charlieroldoni2830]

Sun yang 1,98 metres !!

[@skillhhy8707]

There’s 0 evident of him cheating, his results were all official and excuses were to be made on each of the two test failures. People are saying that he is a cheater with no evidence, just to save face and find reasons for their own athlete’s’ bad performance. Sun was one of the most tested athletes and it’s clear that its impossible to cheat on any world level competition. Sun Yang is the second most decorated swimmer of all time according to individual world titles, and he is the best freestyler in history. Maybe his personal behavior is not the greatest, but everyone should definitely be looking up to his swimming skills.

[@jamesd5241]

Do steroids help with shoulder mobility ?

[@davizilloh96]

😂😂😂 I think Dianabol is the key for the head position

[@jamesd5241]

@Taewan Ko true we all know this guy clean as a whistle.

[@jamesd5241]

@Taewan Ko where theres smoke theres fire

[@vealcutlet86]

@Andrew Ko Just got banned again....

[@CobraQuotes1]

Only aussies dope

[@soulywoly7070]

jeez didnt know he was 6"7

[@wilfdarr]

Right? Even if I was every bit as good as him, he's 5% faster just on “hull speed” alone!

[@ActivBowser9177]

He's actually 6' 6", not 6' 7".

[@andrewthomas8737]

Brenton, yes mate he has a great catch. We have to remember this, That he has been forced into retirement, Maybe do a stroke analysis on Ian or Grant?

[@twilh]

Next up: Cycle like a prime Lance Armstrong

[@bronxcheer1484]

Well played

[@panner11]

I mean yeah, if you want to learn cycling technique, you probably should learn from him. Just because they're cheats doesn't mean their technique was bad.

[@eestebannperalta5258]

Please put subtitles in Spanish I love Russian videos but I don't understand that much English

[@jaspermf]

Lol why are all the adds on your videos for 50yr old men with hair and memory loss.

[@Matt-cp9wh]

because ur 50 and googled how to grow hair. but you forgot about that

[@panner11]

Ads are personalized based on the user these days lol. That's just you who's getting the ads.

[@mahmod731]

Very beautiful Allah, thank

[@Mrdibzahab]

Perhaps a video on which dope he used next?

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

Swimming is highly skilled compared to other sports. Drugs won't help much.only in sprints

[@OfficialRomanOfficial]

Lars Rye Jeppesen So why did Sun Yang dope? Obviously some sort of benefit

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

@@OfficialRomanOfficial Absolutely. But much less than other sports.

[@davizilloh96]

@@LarsRyeJeppesen wtf.

[@chickhearn4ever779]

Look, his form is as good as it gets..Nobody does it better, in terms of technical perfection, not phelps, not anybody. Why he doped, who knows? But i will tell you this. A technically less perfect person would not look anymore perfect while on dope. This is about the best stroke in HISTORY, in terms of efficiency and catch, and range of motion.

[@nono_no]

1:07 Cheater Chumpion. He's no hero

[@peterward2845]

B-Sample analysis, amirite ?!

[@Poundcakebowler]

Sun’s swimming technique: steroid bottle

[@Idontwantthis550]

He’s been dq’d twice. Is there really no other example to follow?

[@panner11]

Cheater or not, there's no one else with a technique exactly like him. It is what it is.

[@Tom-qc3il]

Do Mack Horton to balance it out. Get a look at a clean athlete

[@jangaroo2011]

I am flummoxed by this video, which completely MISSES the secrets that Yang is doing in his stroke. Also, the emphasis on small potatoes and completely missing the MAJOR points that create his "secrets". Yang is doing it for all to see.. on video...in stop action analysis, and you COMPLETELY miss his vital technique skills that make him so fast. Hint: there is zero mention in this video, of the top three skills that Yang does to go fast in his stroke. I am just amazed.

[@AccordGTR]

He is juiced to the gills. DQ forevah!!!

[@davizilloh96]

The key for Sun Yang stroke are steroids

[@KY-fh5kh]

The key of your slow stoke are slow mind and excuses

[@eegnoagn8048]

Mixing up technique and strength issues = no credential

[@bachka2790]

Even without steroids he would be making every single olympic and world championship final in the 800 and 1500. Eliminating steroids, he still is a great distance swimmer.

[@getofftheinternet28]

@@bachka2790 It's possible that Sun Yang could have won races without Performance enhancing drugs, but the world will never know. With his eight year ban in place, he will not be competing until he his out of his prime.

[@skillhhy8707]

getofftheinternet28 There’s 0 evident of him cheating, his results were all official and excuses were to be made on each of the two test failures. People are saying that he is a cheater with no evidence, just to save face and find reasons for their own athlete’s’ bad performance. Sun was one of the most tested athletes and it’s clear that its impossible to cheat on any world level competition. Sun Yang is the second most decorated swimmer of all time according to individual world titles, and he is the best freestyler in history. Maybe his personal behavior is not the greatest, but everyone should definitely be looking up to his swimming skills.

[@brettbale9535]

God bless steroids.

[@gore9573]

China today is much like the Soviet Union in 70s and 80s. There must be national team who helps doping.

[@axelmottard622]

He cheated no doubt about that but is technique is nearly perfect and great to watch

[@skillhhy8707]

nope, 0 evidence of him cheating, it’s clear that it’s impossible to cheat in the Olympic. China today has lower doping rate in the national team than USA and most countries, which means USA has people in the national team who helps doping.

[@noisemakerman]

@@skillhhy8707 He tested positive in 2014 and China has a history of state sponsored doping that is no secret. I don't understand why you choose to defend a guy that is most likely cheating. I understand that it sucks to find out that some of your heroes are cheaters, but dopers are an unfortunate reality in sports and it doesn't have to reflect poorly on other Chinese swimmers or Chinese people in general.

[@skillhhy8707]

Dwerto he was tested positive in a Chinese national race, so what are u talking about? The real time stats speaks that USA sponsors doping more than China, please don’t speak without evidence. His drug used in 2014 is a heart medical that’s banned only a few month before that, so I don’t know where your confident by “most likely” come from. If there are any evidence, his results would already be removed. In today’s competition system, there is 0 tolerance of doping. Swimmers are tested before and after the races, the possibility of people cheating without getting caught is basically 0. If you think China is supporting him, then why would his only test fail be in a local race?

[@noisemakerman]

@@skillhhy8707 Why are you bothering with this? Why are you so convinced that Sun Yang doesn't dope? I say most likely because I have confidence that the majority of people banned by WADA are actual dopers, and non dopers don't destroy collected samples. I can't say for absolute sure that he dopes, but you certainly can't say for absolute sure that he didn't, and the fact is he was banned for knowingly violating the rules set out by WADA. Also where is the evidence for your claims of "Cheating is impossible in the Olympics" and "USA sponsors more doping"? There is no evidence of state sponsored doping EVER occurring in the USA and many Olympians have had medals revoked for doping. Who knows how many more have gone undetected? If you are going to ask for evidence when I make reasonable assumptions then you sure need to provide evidence for the claims that you make. At the end of the day I just don't understand why you care. Only an idiot would be 100% confident that most any athlete doesn't dope, let alone one with numerous violations and multiple bans.

[@jackyoung1410]

i was expecting a stronger kick with all the steroids he took

[@vealcutlet86]

I think his best technique is the doping.

[@henrileroy2485]

Sun Yang : 💉💉💉💉💉

[@xavierlolli1792]

Too bad he dopes

[@EveryoneIsStupidButMe]

You forgot, his technique is to DOPE

[@seanqin2517]

his technique can improve dramatically if he has asthma and/or testicle cancer.

[@getofftheinternet28]

Sun Yang history of using Performance Enhancing Drugs is an insult to the sport. Why you would want to teach off of his swimming is beyond me. If you put him on a pedestal, what is that saying to our young swimmers who want to be like the Pros? It's important that we have a clear message in the swimming community that taking drugs will not be tolerated nor celebrated. This program just lost all credibility.

[@skillhhy8707]

There’s 0 evident of him cheating, his results were all official and excuses were to be made on each of the two test failures. People are saying that he is a cheater with no evidence, just to save face and find reasons for their own athlete’s’ bad performance. Sun was one of the most tested athletes and it’s clear that its impossible to cheat on any world level competition. Sun Yang is the second most decorated swimmer of all time according to individual world titles, and he is the best freestyler in history. Maybe his personal behavior is not the greatest, but everyone should definitely be looking up to his swimming skills.

[@xingcrawford5777]

Lol technique is technique. If you don’t think there’s any credibility here, then don’t watch. GTFO

[@panner11]

You should listen to your own namesake. How stupid can you be if you think doping is at all relevant to technique. This is educational content. You bring up young swimmers. Pretty sure learning technique is what's good for young swimmers not denying them education. You bringing some weird virtue signaling angle to who can and can't learn swimming technique from is laughable. That's not how the world works. Ironically, that type of nonsense censoring is the opposite of virtue, just stupidity.

[@panner11]

It's no wonder why you say it's beyond you because you'd have to be an idiot to think analysing technique is the same as glorifying someone. We can't just put our heads in the sand and pretend like Sun Yang's technique is some taboo that can't be studied. You really thought you were onto something didn't you.

[@user-gj8gd9ic4d]

*CHEATER*

[@082_LIGHTMAN]

No time to watch Chinese steroider :(

[@johnturner1562]

Bobby Finke.