EG4 6000XP - The ULTIMATE All-In-One Off-Grid Solar Power Solution?

[@TheSolarLab]

🛒 EG4 6000XP Off-Grid Inverter • Signature Solar: signaturesolar.com/eg4-6000xp-off-grid-inverter-split-phase/?ref=thesolarlab • Use Code: THESOLARLAB50 for $50 Off Your Order • Shop Solar : shopsolarkits.com/products/eg4-6000xp?ref=TheSolarLab • Use Code: THESOLARLAB50 for $50 Off Your Order 🔔 Subscribe to our KZbin Channel: ​⁠ 0:00 - Intro 0:48 - Spec Teardown 2:50 - Testing 6:10 - What We Like 9:01 - What We Don't Like 11:48 - Recap We finally got our hands on the EG4 6000XP Off-Grid Inverter. After having it for a while and putting it through a bunch of testing, we really like it! It just might be one of the best bang for your buck inverters on the market, so it's no wonder its so popular. Plus, if you get this unit from Signature Solar, you're going to get incredible support! ⚡️ FOLLOW US: instagram.com/thesolarlab/ www.tiktok.com/@thesolarlab 👨🏼‍💻 The Solar Lab: www.thesolarlab.com We maintain an affiliate relationship with some of the products reviewed, which means we get a small percentage of a sale if you click our links, at no cost to our viewers.

[@prepsolar787]

my has been running flawlessly 24/7 for 9 months now. love it

[@cory8837]

Good to hear! Hopefully my second one will last longer than the first one.

[@victorhmg8080]

Mine has been going strong for 3 months. Common power outages in my area and I dont like noisy generators. I get a lot of visitors during power outages because the heat is unbearable. 30°c at night

[@Muksanim2012]

Wow! You are very enthused about what you are doing. Solar is relatively new to the average older consumer. You covered the EG4 inverter in good detail without floundering or glitching. And with your research and testing you came to the conclusion this would be the best inverter to recommend. I like your upbeat manner and amount of good information presented. I was told that solar would not work on my property due to so many trees on and surrounding my property. I am motivated to research this product further. Thanks. You are a great motivational speaker.

[@cory8837]

Mine broke after 3 weeks (internal comms fault) took a week for SS to speak with me for their tier 2 tech support to agree with me that it was broken. I didn't have the carboard box anymore so I had to buy another 6000xp and they're gonna refund me once they receive the broken one. The warranty is solid but if you're actually off-grid don't be surprised when it fails and takes two weeks to get a replacement. And keep the giant box it comes in!

[@beebop9808]

Dude... I replaced the evaporator unit on a 18k mini split I bought 4 months ago just yesterday. The first two are sitting in the garage. This freaking thing has been down as much as it's been up. Thinking of opening a spare parts store. 🤣 Not EG4.

[@Tiersmoke92555]

@@cory8837 that speaks volumes about these toys that are flooding the market.

[@Time-Trvlr]

my new one through up a code017 comms right after i did firmware update. after i rebooted it, still with code I reloaded firmware and let it do whatever it needed for thirty minuets it recovered and no longer had comms fault. one tip don’t try to upgrade with the eps switch off.

[@WingAddict]

@@Tiersmoke92555what do you suggest?

[@cory8837]

@@Tiersmoke92555 Ya, not ready for primetime yet. Great for a hobby and when they are working, they're awesome. Professional grade equipment has problems too. Solar Edge has about a 30% failure rate for their inverters. Just make sure the warranty is good from whoever you buy this stuff from :/

[@richd9771]

I have 3 of these running my whole 2 story house, work shop and ADU. There great and I havent had any issues.

[@nahuiollin13]

I am setting up (3) of these 6000XP for my off grid homestead. Set up will be (12) Power wall mount batteries and 21.6 kw of solar. Do you have any warnings or suggestions that is not in the documentation?

[@richd9771]

@@nahuiollin13 Not really, just make sure your using the correct gauge wires. Its OK to go bigger if you want. Double check all of your connections and make sure there all tight. One thing to keep in mind that I had to find out on my own. Each inverter can discharge 140 amps from your battery bank. if your inverters are sharing all of your batteries then you can change the #9 setting on your host inverter up to 420..... BUT make sure you know what the max discharge amps for the batteries your using, dont exceed that amount. My Inverters kept tripping the EPS and switching to utility mode when I had a heavy load placed on them. I found that setting #9 was still at 140. Once I changed to 420 all the problems went away. I always keep in mind safety first and dont cut corners. Make sure you dont exceed the amount of batteries and can be stacked. You can have each inverter run on its own set of batteries or you can have all your inverters share them. Let me know once you have your system up and running. Id like to know how your power wall batteries are doing. Im interested in those. What brand and company are you buying them from?

[@Off-GridMountains]

Say I’ll tell you about the 6000 XP from Signature Solar. When I called Signature Solar, they said, would you like us to configure them for you across the Internet? And I said yes. They can figure parallel mode for split phase and configured everything for my batteries. The only thing I had to do for the batteries was a firmware update and they walked me through it. Signature Solar by far is the best solar company I have ever communicated with

[@SignatureSolarEthan]

Awesome job on the review! 🙌 The information about the EG4 6000XP inverter was incredibly helpful. Keep up the fantastic work! 🌟

[@Brockleejohnson]

I just got my 6000xp lasts week and my 10 aptos 370w panels come in this week. I love it so far but I haven’t gotten enough time in with it yet so I’ll hopefully be dropping a review on it myself in a few months. Thanks for this video it gives me more to look out for.

[@kerryjohnson7364]

Question, could I run one leg to my 10 space transfer switch in my pole barn and the other leg to my house to a 10 space transfer switch? I basically run my pole barn off, grid all the time, but would like to have the other leg as a back up to my house for lights and things for power outages.

[@keaomakaranch]

Maybe best-selling but definitely not their flagship. Great budget quality performer and their economical entry into a 240 inverter. Great improvement over the 6500EX.

[@johnmonroe3147]

How about a review on the various BMS's out there. A lot of those seem to have issues. There is an Australian Garage guy reviewing them, and I respect his work, but it's focused on how it integrates with Victron equipment. Half of them might be perfectly fine when plugged into another manufacturers AIO.

[@MichaelsKarish]

Given that it’s technically a Luxpower inverter, I don’t think the app or screen menu is going to be changed anytime soon Been lamenting about the same issues now over four years n all they did was remove some features from the app n they force you to go through technical support to even parallel the units That’s great if you’re in the US, SA or china Good luck if you’re anywhere else

[@specialrequesttech]

Does my input source have to be spilt phase two 120v inputs for the 240v or it could be a single phase 240v input?

[@Mgamerz]

FYI this unit supports 120V input with a firmware update. However it disables one leg out output. For me that's not a problem though. Really useful.

[@dupre7416]

I'm glad I found your channel. This info is excellent. Much better than Will Probes IMO. I'm definitely going to get an EG4-6000 unless something better comes out in the next year. Maybe they will update the screen before I'm ready to buy.

[@koohami]

thanks so much for the information about the 220 input

[@daniel_redbeard]

My brother-in-law has one of these. It’s failed so many times. Seems like every so many months he’s saying his power is out. Smh.

[@fullyelectric]

@TheSolarLab great review on the 6000xp, i have to say i have experience most of what you stated on mine, however if you put on the latest firmware you can run unbalanced on L1 or L2 much longer with even more load, also the 6000XP is NOT EG4 flagship inverter, the EG4 18Kpv is and a newer version will be out this November, the second is the EG4 12Kpv , 3rd is the 6000XP and its getting sort of old already, but yeah the 6000XP is the cheap boy on the block with 240v split phase right out of the box, once sick inverter IMO and the web cloud management is awesome as well iMO.

[@Mike-01234]

SS said they will ship mid October I would just get a 18kpv for about $1000 more.

[@fullyelectric]

@@Mike-01234 agreed .. the 12Kpv is $2k more than the 6000xp and the 18Kpv is $3.5k more .. but yeah a used refurbished 18Kpv is about $1.6k more when available.

[@stanpacer9180]

Thanks for the info guys

[@kenltron]

UL listed? Saw a vid of a guy who won't pass inspection because the 6000xp doesn't have a particular UL certification (UL9540).

[@Tiersmoke92555]

@@kenltron just stay offgrid and no inspection is needed if you can avoid it.

[@batemanjo9]

​@@Tiersmoke92555 it has a max output of 25 amps. It's not much of an inverter to stay off grid. Most homes have 200 amp service panels.

[@Mike-01234]

That's because city of Phoenix adopted 9540A ESS which means the battery and inverter have to be UL certified together. EG-4 got the 18 KVP UL listed with the power pro battery which that guy in the video you are referring to had. I suspect EG4 is working on getting the 6000xp UL certified also. States like California are even requiring off grid to get 9450A approved. Not all the counties here in Arizona require it seems to be Phoenix. If he was also trying to grid tie with APS, or SRP utilities they require everything to be approved by California.

[@Tiersmoke92555]

@@Mike-01234 Off-grid, off the books, off the radar. The less the government knows about what goes on in your house the better off you will be. My area is restrictive as well but a generator plug appropriately sized and placed (outside) only requires a simple permit if any. 😉😉

[@Tiersmoke92555]

@@batemanjo9 I have been working with 27 amps for about 5 years. We run everything just as a normal house and never have we pulled 200amp back when we were on grid.

[@paulmarc-aurele5508]

I want to run a critical load panel with a mini split a fridge and freezer and a few lights. Initially my goal is to go to time of use power from the grid and charge my battery’s at night and run the system during peak times. I will add solar later. Does any system out there have a reasonable expectation to give you 15 years of trouble free operation?

[@slugbyte]

The new firmware is a big improvement for this unit, 5000w on one 120v leg *(they provided incorrect information)

[@chimpo131]

what kind of testing has been done with that

[@slugbyte]

@@chimpo131 EG4 said they have done quite a bit of testing, maybe I'll do my own test, not sure I have enough things to make a 5000w test lol

[@tiger23800]

Wait... 5kW per leg on the 6000XP? Can you provide the source?

[@cgutowski471]

@@tiger23800that is not correct. EG4 pulled the video where the tech said 5k on one leg with new firmware.

[@diySolarPowerFunWithRay]

​@cgutowski471 thanks. That is what I thought.

[@simon359]

This is why I picked Victron, the menus are outstanding & I can change anything on the fly easily! And I can do it from my phone. 🤙

[@kpbarbee]

Was your Victron installed at your home and did you need a permit? I'm dealing with that issue currently...

[@simon359]

@@kpbarbee Mine is basically off grid. The only thing I had an electrician do was hook up an interlock switch. That way I don’t need a sub panel and the grounding takes place at the main panel. No need for permits, since I’m not back feeding to the grid. Most people are too lazy just to manually go over and switch it when it needs to be put back on the grid. I usually have to do this in the winter time when the sun is extremely low. So you have grid tide, hybrid, and off grid. Mine is closer to hybrid style off grid. Don’t ever get a grid tide system without a disconnect and batteries. If the grid goes down, you go down with it.

[@quickquote1568]

Here's info that you can easily find on Google about this inverter, that you won't find on youtube. "My new EG 6000 was running happily for a couple of weeks until this night the battery ran low and the inverter switched off power supply and threw a 26 Error code on the front panel. Checked the manual, it stated code number 26 to be a "internal fault" and to restart the inverter. So i turned the inverter off and as soon as i turned the battery main fuse back on, with no solar input or juice from the grid, i was greeted by a loud bang with smoke and sparks coming out of the unit. Save to say, that's it, shes dead."

[@777Sharkbait]

When will you be reviewing the EG4 18k? Heard it smokes this 6000XP

[@Tiersmoke92555]

With 12kw output and three times the cost I would say its to be expected.

[@Brockleejohnson]

@@Tiersmoke92555exactly 😂

[@arksonephimmasane5134]

Thanks for sharing! Can I use this to run a refrigerator and two air conditionings in my house?

[@colormaker5070]

Reference your frig and AC in Watts and we can help you with calculating

[@Mike-01234]

I just got mine working as a UPS, and I use it to shave peak usage on my HVAC, and other 24/7 circuits. I built a DIY pack after it was all done ready for use I probably spent about $2400 on 14.5kwh battery 280 amps at 48V. If I were to do it over again just buy a EG4 power pro they cost $3600 you get a UL certified battery system. I plan to add solar this winter just need to get them racked out on my ground mount.

[@quickquote1568]

Low cost, high frequency, trandformerless inverters are designed for occasional emergency use or temporary use during a weekend camping trip. They were never meant for permanent off grid applications. They offer far poorer surge capacities and much shorter life expectancies, and because they don't use an isolation transformer, they can damage your appliances when their MOSFETs fail.

[@beebop9808]

Perty ain't they. I got three of them hanging on the wall. And I agree the mounting flanges suck. Not wide enough and bolt holes are way to close to the cabinet. Mine are mounted on strut, should be a breeze huh. lol not. Minor stuff though. The PV input can handle 10k (5k per channel) input but will only use 8k. A little breathing room if you're over paneling. Nice if you're being cramped for sun time.

[@Tiersmoke92555]

@@beebop9808 are you 100% offgrid with no utility connection?

[@beebop9808]

Correct.

[@Tiersmoke92555]

@@beebop9808 questions, do you run a generator on bad days? what type of generator and are there any ancillary items if any?

[@beebop9808]

No I don't have a generator but I've been looking around at them recently. I would like to add one, maybe in the 8kw range. I've currently got 90kwh in storage and 14.4kw in panels. And I burn 20-25kwh daily. Planning to add another 45kwh storage sometime after the first of the year. It's been a tough year with heat and drought but sunshine has been the blessing and not in short supply. But honestly I'd rather have some clouds and rain for a change. We could use some. Just hope the new tariffs coming doesn't jack the price of LFP cells into crazyland.

[@Spirch]

do you have an oscilloscope? would be nice to test sine wave and transfers time

[@Mike-01234]

I tested mine claims to be 8ms I have swapped it back and forth while watching a video on my computers don't notice anything.

[@vinny143]

Im putting one of these units on each breaker in my house

[@petes-kj2uo]

With the newest firmware you can connect a 120v generator defeat into this inverter

[@robert5]

Could I run my AC and some other stuff off the EG4 6000XP, I want to auto switch to solar PV power via the EG4 when the sun comes up, run my AC and as many other circuits as possible then auto switch back to grid power when the sun goes down and do this without batteries? I would want to buy batteries later but at first, run without batteries? I'd rather spend my $$ buying as many solar panels as possible up front. Then buy the proper batteries that would work with this later.

[@cwgruber1]

Can you mount these laying down?

[@aceace6001]

witch oine you think is the best one from EG4? this or the others?

[@kpbarbee]

Thanks for the great video review! Just a few things I would like to have known: Is there a cellular modem option? I'm assuming the unit has MPPT controllers--how many? Does EG4 have an online portal--I know you mentioned the app, but is it Bluetooth or what? And can conduit connect to the box easily?

[@thefrankperspective4247]

I feel like the only way to mount that easily is to pretend it’s a cabinet and put a supporting 1x4 under it to rest when screwing it in

[@motorcycleadventuresdailyt6647]

rob what the fuck, i’ve been waiting on your car vids for over a year now, thought we were gonna stay committed? well i guess you did, just not to your OG channel or fan base, but that’s cool! you do you man and good luck and stay committed 😢😢😢

[@TheSolarLab]

its been 9 months my dude! i always said i wanted to make cars fun again, and i mentioned it in the last video i posted, that i was starting something new, so i could come back to cars for FUN again and not have them be my main stressor!

[@ANGEL-nc5lx]

Hey there. What is a PV isolater? Have you posted a video explaining it? Thanks for sharing.

[@briha3142]

ANGEL…the PV Isolater is a DC Solar Panel Dis-connect switch. I added a separate DC Dis-connect Switch, about 18” from the Inverter, so I can disconnect the solar panels BEFORE if gets to the inverter. Amazon has some good ones!

[@ANGEL-nc5lx]

​@@briha3142Thanks. 👍

[@aroundtheshop]

You looking to Sell the Pekachu inverter? I need a 2nd one

[@roatanbound2023]

So what does that mean that the AC comes out as two separate 3,000W lines? Can that then be combined using another device?

[@jake-mv5oi]

Your 240V power electrical coming into your house is supplied by 2 "legs"(wires) of 120V power(AKA split phase). 240V appliances have both legs connected to them and since the sine waves are out of phase by 180 degrees, it equals 240v. 120v appliances only have one leg running to them and a neutral wire returning back to the panel to complete the circuit. What he's saying is that since the unit has basically has 2 120V inverters rated at 3000W supplying each leg, you can't put more than 3000W of appliances on one leg eventhough it may be less than the whole unit's stated rating of 6000W. For example, if you put 2 heaters that pull 1800W each on one receptacle the unit is powering, it would overload the unit. If you power the heaters from different receptacles that are supplied by their own leg on the inverter, it would run the 3600W combined load just fine. 240V loads like a water heater naturally pull from each leg equally, so they are perfectly balanced and don't require a neutral return wire.

[@benkanobe7500]

I am using less expensive but very good working inverters to power my home in San Diego. My inverters have Current Transformers "Current Clamps" on each of the legs of my 120 VAC in at my breaker panel. They monitor my loads on L1 and L2 and when enough solar is available, they offset the loads down to about 5 to 10Watts from the Grid. They never go "negative" so that I am always pulling some small amount from the grid during the day. My neighbors power bills are around $330.00+ Mine is seldom over $60.00. I would like to upgrade my inverters to something like these 600XP and add more solar to help with AC and also to add batteries for night time. Does this inverter come with current transformers and can it be used as I am using my existing inverters? No contract with the power company because I don't put ANYTHING in to the grid including if the grid shuts down, my inverters shut down.

[@bwhaskell]

Thoughts about installing this in a sprinter van? I have high power requirements (2 stark varg electric dirtbikes with 240vac 3.3kw chargers each) and plan to pair it with 48v 280ah 14.3kwh EG4 pack. I'd like to install solar on the roof but the EG4 6000xp has a 120v PV minimum input and that's going to be tough to achieve on a 170 sprinter roof. Might just use a standalone solar charger with lower voltage requirements. I can't find another inverter that meets my requirements. Thoughts?

[@jacobwebb4519]

I wouldnt use this in a small space - we installed in our cabin and its pretty loud with solar charging or having a load on AC side

[@PazLeBon]

12000 is the flagship

[@Trevathecleva82]

18K and grid boss are bigger than the 12000.

[@rodneyhillbrant8418]

Not no more it can do inline balance of 5000 with the updated

[@adrianvalenzuela2711]

I need car content 😫 I wanna see that genesis slide 😮‍💨

[@TheSolarLab]

sooooooooon (hopefully LOL)♥️

[@quickquote1568]

Another issue with these low cost high frequency, transformerless inverters is that they're not user serviceable. When they fail after the warranty runs out, they're pretty much done. (Throw away inveryer) The manufacturer will not ship you the parts that you would need to even perform a board swap because they don't want to incur the liability of you injuring or even killing yourself by poking around the high voltage capacitors that are in these inverters, that remain energized, even after the battery has been disconnected. And most inverter repair shops won't mess with them because they have to warranty their work and these inverter have a high failure rate post repair due to the use of cheap, short lived Chinese made components. If you want an inverter that's going to last far longer and is field serviceable and easy to repair that uses far less components in its design, then you're far better off purchasing a low frequency, transformer based inverter charger.

[@j.ciloafasho]

What would be factors that would make you consider choosing this over the Ecopro Ultra and Anker solix setups?

[@kickgas7171]

This XP inverter uses low cost, light duty, high frequency, transformerless inverter technology that offers a far poorer surge capacity, a shorter life expectancies and because it doesn't offer any galvanic isolation between its DC boost stage and its AC output, it can easily fry your appliances. You'll be far better off and much safer in the end by buying a low frequency, transformer based inverter instead

[@Tiersmoke92555]

XW Pro....

[@johnmonroe3147]

Nice unit for sure, but not close in price. I see this one as perfect for something non-critical. I'm buying one for my shed soon. Not every installation needs low frequency reliability.

[@Tiersmoke92555]

@@johnmonroe3147 we live off grid and need rock solid dependable. All of these hobiest type units are flooding the market.

[@Tiersmoke92555]

@@johnmonroe3147 that my problem with these units and the marketing. The predecessor to this unit was touted as the best thing ever. I have heard these don't like standard generator power and an outboard charger is needed but they are listed as EMP harded now.

[@batemanjo9]

Keep in mind the 6000XP has a max output of 25 amps. So this is a tiny unit that could power maybe 1 or 2 bedrooms.

[@viper9821]

Stopped watching when your credibility tanked after not having 10kw of solar input to test.

[@TheSolarLab]

sorry Ginger Hunter

[@quickquote1568]

These cheap high-frequency, transformerless inverters may save you a little bit of money upfront but they don't save you any money in the long run because of their shorter life expectancy poorer surge capacity, and the fact that they can damage your appliances during a failure of their MOSFETs due to the lack of an output transformer. You're far better off spending a little extra money and buying a low-frequency, transformer-based inverter charger.

[@ovandosalvi1]

I like your complaints!! They are a good company as your review states. Could it be that the makers are so smart they forgot the easy lingo? lol 😂😂😂 Sort of like when you put red on a stop sign 🛑 or an arrow to indicate right from left. Simple language makes us all betta. I like the way we are engineering with E-power!!!!🛷🤿🛹🏋🏻‍♂️

[@Tiersmoke92555]

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