Thoughts on if theres room to install a din rail and a Tigo RSS transmitter inside the flexboss for a rooftop installation? Also, i see the manual recommends a PV disconnect but whats that knob on the side then? Would you recommend an external disconnect?
@jerryfaircloth12 сағат бұрын
###WARNING### If you were contacted to update the grid connection anti rotation brackets on the GridBoss. You may have received torque specs that were WAY too high for the plastic standoffs holding the fuses. The instructions I received specified tightening the screws to 250in/lbs. They should be 80in/lbs according to the EG4 tech I talked to. The spec for the Eaton breaker is only 40 in/lbs so 80 may still be a little high so I am going to use around 60 in/lbs. I checked several of the similar screws and standoffs and none were anywhere near 80 in/lbs.
@RandomUserName9284020 сағат бұрын
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@tinysparkyКүн бұрын
Can it be mounted inside? Is there a remote disconnect button that goes outside?
@unpluggedtexan20 сағат бұрын
@@tinysparky yes it can be mounted inside. And yes you can add a rapid disconnect switch outside.
@Marlin-m9mКүн бұрын
If I understood the smartports correctly you could use one of those ports to hook up a 110V generator, correct? I'm looking to just hook up a portable generator in case there is an extended power outage and my solar is not sufficient. not a whole house generator, just a supplement to solar. this way I can avoid having to buy the chargeverter hopefully
@freddielightford9781Күн бұрын
why make a video but cant supply any real life data you gave us no more information than if i just went to signature solar website
@harddisk3000000Күн бұрын
MAN THIS THING IS A MONSTER,
@JamReederКүн бұрын
I am in Mesa, AZ. I installed the Sol-Ark 15K w/60KW EG4 and 9KW of solar panels. I need more solar panels, which I am in the process of procuring. I spoke with EG4 and Sol-Ark about the close-loop communication with the battery. Sol-Ark stated that the EG4 communication (CAN buss) works, until it doesn't, so they stated that if I have a problem and they see that I have the EG4 batteries in close-loop communication, they will void the warrenty. Hmmm.. well my contractor along with the large utility company (Salt River Project (SRP)) designed and installed my batteries using close-loop communication. It has been a year and I have had no problems. I will say that I have a heat pump A/C for my garage so as to keep the summer temperature at or below 90 degrees F. (usually 84F) I decide to not remove the close-loop communication... I was tempted to trade in my Sol-Ark for the EG4 18K for $1000, but I found that the EG4 inverter does not handle my Time Of Use needs, or at least it is not easily configured if it even possible. So I will stay with the Sol-Ark.
@cherylleclerc5642Күн бұрын
I’m not happy with mine . Before 3 years it had apparently a minimal leak replaced it had to pay labour, they had to come back several times because the sensor got damp when installing it so it would keep shutting down. Now with the second tank it shut down again and could not be started again. This time they canceled the sensor there is no leak so I question. If there was even a leak with the first one. I think I should be refunded the labour for the second tank. The plumber did mention they’ve installed lots of them in a new apartment complex and have already replaced many. So maybe put off purchasing one until the kinks have been worked out.
@kingjames1282Күн бұрын
Will this run my 27kw tankless water heater? It draws 113 amps when in use.
@djbessette76Күн бұрын
you said that you would have installed a transfer switch, with that in mind does that mean that you would not have needed the grid disconnect switch above the transfer switch in your drawing ??
@unpluggedtexanКүн бұрын
@@djbessette76 theoretically yes, but most municipalities and power companies want that 200amp disconnect installed no matter what.
@michiganengineer8621Күн бұрын
It looks like the settings for the INVERTERS would be full time export, any time of use settings would be in the gridboss itself
@unpluggedtexanКүн бұрын
@@michiganengineer8621 yes that is correct.
@jpfalk11Күн бұрын
Loving your videos and looking forward to your next video showing the install. I saw the gridboss come on the market but didn’t understand what it did. I’m a contractor builder with some wiring experience but get frustrated with a lot of the content out there which assumes you know solar and or just isn’t explained clearly. I want a similar set up with grid back up, no sell back, and also want a way to regulate my hot tub and pool pump (at night, low sun, or grid down) so they won’t drain my batteries quickly since these are my biggest loads. I could also be cooling my well insulated house when hot out and the solar is cranking, not to mention a future EV hook up. The gridboss looks perfect for this and should ultimately allow for a system that requires less battery storage especially being that I’m in a sunny area. Thanks again for a great video. I’m excited about this set up!!
Күн бұрын
The manual states that it's not to be installed on a flammable material. Is the wood wall a problem?
@unpluggedtexanКүн бұрын
Follow the manual on the install instructions to make sure you meet code requirements. My setup is a temporary setup so I can quickly switch out units to test them.
Күн бұрын
@unpluggedtexan Thanks. That makes sense. As long as nobody is watching this for how to install the products at home.
@ter450Күн бұрын
Thanks for the review. I am curious if the application can work only using wifi, i.e., no internet connection. In a regional grid down scenario, this would be a concern since there is no longer a display. I am looking forward to your schematic, especially since your prior video discussed placing an inverter bypass switch in place for system maintenance. I believe this would perform that function.
@mcconja2 күн бұрын
You mentioned only use copper and confirmed in the manual. My 200 amp feed wire is 4/0 triplex (aluminum). If I add the Eaton breaker, aluminum should be fine as the breaker is aluminum rated. Definitely can save money by keeping the aluminum instead of buying 50’ of copper.
@amartins02Күн бұрын
I was looking at the Flex/Grid boss combo. But having to run copper from the meter seems crazy to me. Maybe adding a coupler to the aluminum going into the main panel and converting to copper then connecting to the Grid Boss?
@jerryfaircloth2 күн бұрын
OK so I took a look at the GridBoss manual and it is conflicting on the temperature. In the specs section it specifies a maximum ambient operating temp of 140 degrees F. But then it adds that lower maximum temp in the written section. I hope this is a typo because if it isnt you would NEVER be able to install one of these in Florida next to your meter if there is any time of the day with sunlight. I guess I will call EG4 monday to confirm as this will cause a complete re-engineering of my system.
@unpluggedtexan2 күн бұрын
@@jerryfaircloth yeah my mistake. I actually just added a caption to the video correcting that. It has a 140F degree max operating temp.
@mcconja2 күн бұрын
@@unpluggedtexan wonder how important it is to not be in direct sunlight here in the NW. ideally, I would install it on the west side of my house. Might have to build something for shade.
@jtmg112 күн бұрын
I'm placing one in a conditioned Orlando garage to extend its life
@jerryfaircloth2 күн бұрын
@@unpluggedtexan Well I wouldnt call it a mistake, it says in the manual 113 degrees in one spot and 140 in another. I just hope 140 is the right number. :) Great channel you have and I hope this thing is the game changer we think it is.
@unpluggedtexan2 күн бұрын
@ thanks for letting me know it said 113 degrees somewhere in the manual. I was thinking how in the heck I came up with that number after a couple people pointed out that the spec sheet says 140 😂. I knew I read it in the manual!
@Roll2Videos2 күн бұрын
Very nice setup. Very clean
@MrDonking19672 күн бұрын
Everyone talking about what it can do not one person has connected it so far. How do you know it can do what you are saying?
@unpluggedtexan2 күн бұрын
EG4 does rigorous field testing before releasing their products. That being said, it is a new product so I’m sure there will be some bugs that will need to be worked out. But I’m pretty confident this will end up working as expected.
@CDFJCB2 күн бұрын
I’ve been using it for 3 days. So far working flawless with 18K PV.
@iridium582 күн бұрын
Those tariff are going to priceout all Chinese products... get it while is hot.
@Dmkjr2 күн бұрын
But ummm, this isn’t a battery. 🤷♂️
@Just_An_Idea_For_Consideration2 күн бұрын
SPECULATION (Correct me if this is wrong): In a completely OFF GRID system, I would think that the LOAD L1 & L2 would suffice, since you are never backfeeding the inverters from the Grid. Power is only sent to the Grid Boss from the Inverters. Having said that, if you had multiple inverters in parallel, it would seem you could supply the output from each system to the Grid Boss, without having to compensate for Phase, and the Grid Boss would balance usage from all sources. So if you had 2 18kPVs in parallel, couldn’t you take the output into one port on the GRID BOSS from that entire system, and then if you add two 21kPV in parallel use a second port, leaving the 3rd port for future expansion?
@Just_An_Idea_For_Consideration2 күн бұрын
i now think my above assumptions are INCORRECT
@michiganengineer8621Күн бұрын
Even if it would work, you would have the limit of 90A in on each of the Inverter inputs. I think it would be more cost effective for a fully off-grid setup to wire things the "normal" way and forget using the Gridboss.
@randya91432 күн бұрын
I started installing my Flexboss and Gridboss today. When setting up the Flexboss, the manual states you have to enable the MIDBOX setting under advanced settings , or Gridboss will not turn on. (and it didn't) In the App and the EG4 Monitor website, the MIDBOX tab isn't there even after the firmware update. Also, Signature Solar tech support looked at my setup/system and is at a loss on what to do. I got the Flexboss wired and powered up, but the Gridboss is not playing nice..... Was told I need to wait until Monday for the really smart EG4 guys to come to work. 😢
@jerryfaircloth2 күн бұрын
Thats good to know. I have not turned anything on yet and there will be a slight delay waiting for the 90a breaker anyway and my battery firmware update cable. Guess I accidentally dodged a bullet. Except that no mounting in the sun for the Gridboss may have me redesigning now.
@randya91432 күн бұрын
@jerryfaircloth I have to update one of my batteries also. Tested the RSD, and only one battery tripped the breaker. Also, I got an email that my 90 amp breaker shipped today. I used the 80 amp breaker just to get things going (or trying to.)
@CDFJCB2 күн бұрын
Had the same issue. Philip in tech support got it up and going. Been working great.
@kacykoelliker58172 күн бұрын
Did you say 113? Spec says operating temperature is 140F
@unpluggedtexan2 күн бұрын
@@kacykoelliker5817 weird. I could have sworn I saw 113 degrees in the manual. But it does say 140 degrees. So that was my mistake.
@kacykoelliker58172 күн бұрын
@@unpluggedtexanAh thanks buddy; I'm in Phoenix so 113 ambient would be a deal breaker. I'm back in the game!
@user-ei3ml8jo1s2 күн бұрын
So they finally caught up to others like Schneider who have had these type of units for quite a while.
@stacyhackney61002 күн бұрын
Thank you
@stacyhackney61002 күн бұрын
Thank you
@billy-go9kx2 күн бұрын
Needs labels on the Smart Ports telling you the AMPS!
@idahoduckhunter2 күн бұрын
I’ve been waiting for an actual install video of the gridboss. Glad you’re the first one I enjoy your content.
@idahoduckhunter2 күн бұрын
I’ve been waiting for an actual install video of the gridboss. Glad you’re the first one I enjoy your content.
@frostyfroze73522 күн бұрын
Thanks for the post, looking forward to more content.. Say I have the 12000xp off grid, can I just wire it into the generator input of the gridboss, and have it run the loads with grid present at the grid boss, what is the transfer speed between grid and generator input and back to grid, can I choose to stay on generator power?
@unpluggedtexan2 күн бұрын
@@frostyfroze7352 yes you will be able to hook the 6000xp or any other inverter to the generator port to supplement power. I didn’t want to go into detail on that in the video though as it’s not officially stated you can do it in the manual. But I have been told by tech support that is an option.
@frostyfroze73522 күн бұрын
@ ok yea thanks, Another question, so with the gridboss installed, and the flex boss in a separate garage, can I have a sub panel in the separate garage from the flex boss directly or will that require another wire run form that house panel?
@reviews2you2 күн бұрын
One disadvantage to this over using a couple 10 circuit manual transfer switches is if there is an EMP and the smart circuits fail, will you be able to power your loads? Will you be able to access the Gridboss? With the manual transfer switch there are no smarts to go out. Is this EMP hardened? I don't think EG4 has made that announcement that I've heard on this or the FlexBoss but I suspect the FlexBoss will be. Since the grid port on the inverter is bidirectional can you use that one line to pull energy from the grid to charge the batteries with it? Great job mentioning the idle 20w it uses, that is important and I didn't know that after reading the manual! It also appears it's less efficient than the 18kPV with solar to the battery or solar to the grid. Also - I love your videos. You and I think similarly so that may be why but IMO you do a good job laying out what matters and keeping it clear and concise.
@unpluggedtexan2 күн бұрын
@@reviews2you unofficial word is that the gridboss and flexboss are in the EMP certification process. So hopefully we’ll get confirmation in the future on that. Yes you will be able to grid charge your batteries due to that bidirectional power flow.
@MarkBernard-s4j2 күн бұрын
Hey good morning can you please send me the wire wiring diagram for the grid boss please? Thank you.
@unpluggedtexan2 күн бұрын
@@MarkBernard-s4j I don’t have it ready yet. Still in process of wiring it all together. I probably need another 2 weeks.
@MarkBernard-s4j2 күн бұрын
Ok cool
@bearupfarm18183 күн бұрын
The unit is very new and hasn’t proven itself yet. It better to see it up and running with hours to prove it worth buying. Just like anything new with all modifications and needs to run for a while to get all the bugs fixed
@unpluggedtexan2 күн бұрын
@@bearupfarm1818 I agree. I’ve talked to EG4 about how much testing they’ve put this through also. And it’s built on the 18kpv architecture so I don’t foresee it having any significant issues.
@JoeCoolR13 күн бұрын
Another great review. Thanks for all the information. I was going to do the 18Kpv, but now I'm going to install the BOSSes. My Grid and Flex are going to be separated quite a bit. The batteries will be near the Flex. I understand there's only one cable that needs to go between the Flex and Grid. Will you cover that in your review of the combo setup?
@adamd8584 күн бұрын
It depends it pulls heat from your house, if you are heating with expensive electricity, it’s a wash because your electric heat is just working harder to heat your water heater, if you are like me and you heat with wood, it makes complete sense
@sneakypete8304 күн бұрын
Good stuff, looking forward to seeing how you wire up your system into the gridboss.. I had some concerns where my existing grid sell back meter would go as i also have my main meter.
@diySolarPowerFunWithRay4 күн бұрын
What type and size of wire gutter is that? Great videos by the way!
@unpluggedtexan4 күн бұрын
@@diySolarPowerFunWithRay it’s a 3ft long and 10”x10” wire way. I got it at Elliott Electric. Can’t remember the brand of it at the moment.
@diySolarPowerFunWithRay4 күн бұрын
Awesome. If you were to add a "Bypass" switch ,for maintenance work, where do you think you would place that? I think usually people put that where your fusible disconnect is.
@offgridgarageUSA4 күн бұрын
I just received my FlexBOSS 21 yesterday and the GridBOSS the day before. I'll be mounting them soon inside my big shop as well as the 40 410 watt panels. Hooking them up to 3 battery (300 amp hour) banks for a total of 900 amp hours! I'll add a 4th soon. I'll also hook up the 15 Kilowatt generator I have. Also, will be hooking up the new style chargeverter GC when needed.I love this stuff! ;-) Keep rockin' down there in Texas... maybe I'll join you some day! 🤓
@seniordockman29465 күн бұрын
Doing away with green subsidies is the goal, but stop subsidizing gas and oil as well. Google it- we have subsidized gas, oil, and coal to the tune of trillions over the last hundred years.
@roslynandbobchauvin23784 күн бұрын
Why get rid of the green subsidies to taxpayers?
@ter450Күн бұрын
@roslynandbobchauvin2378 there is talk with several people at the federal level, though I agree with removing oil tax breaks and subsidies as well. Corporations get tax breaks, yet the plan is to remove citizens tax breaks. Yes, some political points, but facts.
@gerharddohne29805 күн бұрын
Thank you for this review and for taking the time to break down the 200A pass-through.
@cedarpeaktrucking7635 күн бұрын
Great video, I'm encouraged by EG4's progress in the space. Cheaper than my Sol-Ark 15ks and seems to do everything I need. I'll be switching to EG4 in the future for all of my off-grid builds
@HybridShedIraq5 күн бұрын
This is not the biggest hybrid inverter on the market we have high voltage dc inverters 3phase 400v 50kw deye. It can take up to 100kw of solar and use 80kw of solar.
@unpluggedtexan5 күн бұрын
I should have mentioned it’s the biggest hybrid inverter made for residential use. That is the claim EG4 is making. I haven’t seen anything bigger available for residential DIY’ers to get their hands on. And with the dumb decision Deye just made remotely shutting peoples inverters down I have a feeling EG4 is going to start dominating this market. But we’ll see.
@larrymiller71285 күн бұрын
Do u have to have the same PV? Right now, I have 2 separate systems: 1 10kw 6kw. If I upgrade, can I use my solar panels.. I have 20 550 n 22 320 watts
@unpluggedtexan5 күн бұрын
I could put my existing 19,200 watts on the flexboss21 without issue. But I plan on doing a smaller array with it since it will only be powering a 1 bedroom studio and workshop.
@randya91434 күн бұрын
@@larrymiller7128 The manual says to use the same panels on each input . Meaning input one should be the same power and make on all panels (example:405w) but input two could be different power and make ( example: 500w). Also if string total watts are different put the highest wattage string on input one.
@larrymiller71284 күн бұрын
@randya9143 good to know. Now I can run everything on 1 inverter n 1 subpanel n using what i alreadyhave... Thank you
@reviews2you5 күн бұрын
I agree the Flexboss seems like a good alternative to the 18kPV. It will be nice once they add a screen option, I prefer having a screen backup along w/ the app. It is curious that the MPPT efficiency from PV to battery and PV to grid is less efficient than the 18kPV though?
@michiganengineer86215 күн бұрын
Added as a sub so I can hear your take on the GridBoss. Looking at the EG4 site online that unit looks to be PERFECT for a hybrid setup that tries to be mostly off grid. As you might guess from my user name, I have to plan for a little bit more wintery weather than you and @WillProwse do, so being able to add more panels is ALWAYS a good thing!
@unpluggedtexan5 күн бұрын
Yeah you nailed it. The gridboss is made for people like us who have the grid as our backup only and want to remain offgrid as much as possible.
@michiganengineer86215 күн бұрын
@@unpluggedtexan Herself would prefer to be completely off grid, although she still wants gas for cooking (go figure). Just noodling a bit and (assuming I played the right numbers) a pair of the Boss21's with maxed out solar and battery for each with a Gridboss, being fed by the two FB21's, plus rooftop via micro's, big generator and the grid would probably be around $100k (plus install). Like I said a wet dream IF I play the right numbers LMAO
@unpluggedtexan5 күн бұрын
@ yeah that would be an enormous system. But getting one gridboss and flexboss with 30 kwh’s of battery storage and solar panels would get you not reliant on the grid much, and you can always expand as your budget allows.
@roslynandbobchauvin23783 күн бұрын
@@michiganengineer8621 If you have natgas/methane coming to your house, I'd keep that. Electiric for heating/cooking can chew through battery. If you are on propane, still may be worth keeping that for heat/cooking.
@michiganengineer86213 күн бұрын
@@roslynandbobchauvin2378 Oh we'll be keeping gas, even in our "win the lottery build". Probably a big, buried propane pig primarily for cooking, but also for a genset since we likely wouldn't need a monster sized one. Heating (inc. hot water) and cooling will be geothermal heat-pump.
@roslynandbobchauvin23785 күн бұрын
Good tech overview. I don't agree with the commentary on eliminating tax credits for buyers of this tech. We cannot rely on corporations to "do the right thing" and keep prices low out of the goodness of their hearts. I would never expect that. I want them to live within the competetive market and succeed as any good capitalist would. I'm happy I took the incentive for my system, it was a factor in my decision. I bet most of the influencers here , including the @unpluggedtexan, have taken the tax credits. Let's not pull the ladder up on those folks that are just getting in to the enegy independance movement! P.S. Big Oil lobbies hard for removing the tax credits. Big oil gets huge gov't tax credits, but they don't want to lose us as customers.
@davidhernandez17395 күн бұрын
Legit as they come!!
@copisetic11045 күн бұрын
I don’t sell back to the grid, does it have sine wave matching from the grid so it will bleed power in as needed to supplement power supply if needed.
@unpluggedtexan5 күн бұрын
@@copisetic1104 yes. It will operate just like the 18k Pv where the grid will assist when needed without issue.
@dackjohnson39225 күн бұрын
I have the PowerPro battery installed. Flexboss going up later today along the Gridboss. I've hired an Electrician to wire the grid and breaker panels but I'm wiring the battery to Flexboss and Flexboss to Gridboss.. Love to see some install videos as this is my first installation of this type.