Mazda MX-30 - It's An Electric Gamble!

It's a compact SUV with a city car range, but there's more to it than that methinks. It may not work but at least we have something a little 'different' in the mix.
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[@davelocktalk]

Big mistake small battery and its expensive with the small battery nobody will buy it and if they do there stupid. Terrible design!

[@smilepermile8165]

You didn't watch the video until the end you dumbass

[@mrlintonious]

Should have been called, EX-30, and have come out with a bigger battery pack.

[@anderspersson6134]

You get this car and for that you deserve credit. 👍 After half a year still in love with my MX-30. Its super nice to drive. Charging could be faster but other than that this buddy from Hiroshima is reliable, fun and still really look forward to driving it. It drives like Mazda, it feels like a Mazda and yeah actually it is a hm Mazda😃👍

[@robdavies9398]

Actually the BMW i3 REX is not the only EV w/ range extender: the GM volt/ampera got there first!

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

True.

[@whocares264]

diesel electric trains have been around for decades...

[@garyallsopp6369]

Volt/Ampera only had a 10kWh usable battery so more a series hybrid than a REX

[@garyallsopp6369]

@@whocares264 Again series hybrid not REX

[@Isaac-un4cn]

@@garyallsopp6369 The last version of the Volt had a 53 mile range. That's long enough for most peoples' commutes to not require burning any gas.

[@grahambrown42]

I like it, looks good, decent boot, more practical than a mini, and the range extender could be a killer addition for many people to get into electric transport 👍

[@paulholterhaus7084]

It is NOT an electric transport if it requires gasoline................Paul

[@errcoche]

My plug-in hybrid only has a 25 mile range and I still hardly ever use the engine. I have had it a month and the tank is still full. I now realize that I shouldn't fill it up because the gasoline is literally going to go old in the tank. Once I have run it down I am going to keep it quarter full. I'm trying to make the point that I completely agree with you. a 100 mile electric range is not a problem with an onboard petrol generator.

[@chrischild3667]

I had the same problem with my Outlander PHEV in summer. The petrol just didn't get used and eventually the onboard computer said 'this petrol is getting old' and started firing up the ICE and burning the petrol off at high revs!

[@CaroAbebe]

So what you’re basically saying, Ed McGuigan, is that you might have gone fully electric instead...

[@errcoche]

@@CaroAbebe I bought a used 2017 Bolt for the wife and wanted something I could do a really long journey in ( 900 miles ). Waiting for this years new EVs to be coming off lease in 2024 for a sensible used vehicle purchase. Most likely an ID.4 .

[@paulholterhaus7084]

Screw gasoline.............Paul

[@ewadge]

As a BMW i3 owner I can confirm that the suicide doors are a pain in the back, especially if you have kids. Otherwise, the Mazda looks good and the interior is quite nice. I get the idea of a small battery but this is about 30% too small. Also, the fact that you cannot switch off the fake sound off is a major pain. Why couldn’t Mazda have made it capable of being switched off.

[@Brian-om2hh]

A switch would have been far better. A choice always beats no choice.......Maybe a Mazda dealer can delete it if asked?

[@paulvanderhaegen761]

a good pair of pliers will do the job LOL amg now i have no more radio.

[@cghhgv2571]

Actually it does. I've done it.

[@paulholterhaus7084]

Take out the noise maker and I would be more interested............Paul

[@datathunderstorm]

You can turn off the noise in the settings menu. Personally, I’d be hoping Mazda release a series of audio sounds mimicking various propulsion systems - I’d love something sci-fi - like Warp engines from Star Trek for example. Or…..the expanded sound range of a General Electric Turbofan - with the sound of reverse thrust coming up if you brake hard…..😅 - or the sound of a Starfleet ship dropping out of warp when you drop below 45 mph. Or how about the twin “bang” sound of breaking through the sound barrier when you pass 55 mph? As a certain famous Vulcan once said, “The possibilities are endless…..” 🖖🏾

[@kinross24]

Buy an MGZS ev instead and get better car, miles and prices.

[@bellshooter]

And you can get people in the back!

[@mondotv4216]

Better car is debatable. More practical car (Mazda what were you thinking with those doors), but dud sound system, shitty aircon, rubbish software and satnav and still a fairly limited range. So what problem is it really solving? It’s still a very limited EV for long trips and it’s pretty inefficient. That extra 10kWh might get you an extra 30 - 35 miles but at a component level, the Mazda is going to be a better car, better suspension. And unless I’m wrong the starting price is about the same. However the doors turn me off. I’d have to try it but I have two young grandchildren and getting them in and out of car seats seems like a back breaking exercise in the Mazda.

[@markhamilton7289]

But not exactly the best interior quality.

[@jur4x]

I'd rather go with MG5 :)

[@carolyncopeland2722]

OMG I think I would love this. Kids grown and gone, hardly ever have a passenger in the car (maybe twice in 3 years) let alone someone in the back. More range than my leaf 30kw would be nice as once a month I take a long trip up north to see family, so would be less than the 3 stops I have to currently do. I would prefer a sports car but there are none around at the moment, in normal peoples price brackets. Once this gets here I will be taking a test drive

[@markmilligan6616]

If you want a sportyish ev try the mini, you maybe surprised.

[@carolyncopeland2722]

@@markmilligan6616 Yeah I loved the mini I had several years ago. Unfortunately they are not available here either until middle of next year. Also they are very very pricey for what you get. They are the same price as a brand new Ioniq or Leaf. All very close to the price of Niro or Kona. Nothing out there that really appeals enough to open the wallet at this stage. Maybe in a couple of years

[@jonathantaylor1998]

I'm totally with you on loving the fact that Mazda has built something that's a little different, a little out-of-the-ordinary...

[@casperhansen826]

I would be worry about Mazda, they seems to not be aligned with their customers and their expectations.

[@kyleblackburne2870]

My mrs just brought one home today. Got to say its a very comfortable drive. She only needs to drive at most 15 miles a day and we will only have the dogs in the back, maybe the odd friend once in a blue moon. I’ll see how its going in about a month.

[@mikichia4986]

How do you & your Mrs find the MX 30? Ordered one on last Sunday, first EV in the family.

[@kyleblackburne2870]

Miki Chia its a really great drive for fairly short journeys. I did recently drive from Liverpool to Portsmouth for our first long distance drive and it was the most torturous event of my life and i’m ex armed forces. They may say that the car can be charged to 100% in 30 minutes but most of the ev chargers i have used up to now have very sporadic charging amounts that will be more like an hour charge. Some may be 30kw and others maybe 23 even when they are touted as 50 or 150kw chargers. A journey that would normally take me roughly 4-5 hours took 9 hours. Also without the use of an ev app to find chargers you are completely at the whim of engineers. I arrived at Norton canes service station to find all chargers completely removed without notice and no way to charge my car. Luckily i had just enough charge to reach another charger near by in a village. So in short its a great car as a run around but for longer journeys i would plan the whole day as a write off and take your time.

[@wobby1516]

Great car for a minicab as they can’t get out without paying 🙄

[@Brian-om2hh]

In my nearest town, the taxi driver won't start his engine unless you pay for your journey first......and they all do the same, so it's pay first or walk..... I have noticed that at least one taxi driver in my nearest town is now using a Kia eNiro...

[@jeremylister89]

3 door trying to pretend it's a 5 door

[@wobby1516]

@@Brian-om2hh I’ve an E Niro, brilliant car, can understand why he’s using one as it must save him a fortune in fuel. There’s a cab drive blogs on here who has an E Niro I wonder if it’s the same guy. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6mypoqIpqaXpM0

[@Waciglass]

Lost interest after seeing those daft doors

[@davidsworld5837]

want to see them used in a supermarket carpark were it is impossible to open your door any were near full

[@Odinscrow1962]

😂

[@iroulis]

It's an RX-8 Crossover, Compact Utility Vehicle, and that is the biggest gamble Mazda made: The quirky form factor. The Range Extended EV is what the automotive industry needs, but Mazda should've put it in a conventional form factor. I want an EV, but I don't have the wherewithal to install an L2 charger at home and I can't rely on public charging infrastructure.

[@kevfquinn]

On the second car thing - there's also single car with a mindset to hire when you need something for the occasional long journey, which is what I said to myself when I bought my similar-range i3 BEV in 2016. In practice I've never *actually* needed to hire anything, particularly as the charging infrastructure improved.

[@countertony]

Yep, that'd be me. At the moment my 'first car' is a bike, but that's starting to get slightly wearing during winter.

[@chrischild3667]

Exactly. When driving further afield you just need to find a CCS charger and this'll go from 10-80% in 15-20mins. Shouldn't be a problem even on longer journeys.

[@PaulMansfield]

This is why I was happy to buy the MG eZS, because I knew the charging infrastructure has been improving rapidly and I could always hire a car. With c19 I've never needed that backup plan

[@MrLongraphics]

@@chrischild3667 10 to 80% and 15 to 20 minutes on a 50 kWh CCS charger with the MX 30 😂? Dream on! Two hours in my case having driven 150km, and still the battery was cold.

[@chrischild3667]

@@MrLongraphics ha yes I've since seen the charge curve. Shocker!!

[@fenegroni]

This is the ideal car for someone like me. I ride a bike as my main form of transport, and use the car only if carrying more bulky load. So the back seats would probably be folded most of the time. If occasionally carrying passengers, sure they have a slightly easier access. I had an RX-8 for three years and nobody ever complained nor I ever had issues with the doors tbh. The range would be fine for me because I round hire a car or just take longer if each leg of the journey was more than 100 miles. I’ve hired it for a 24hr test drive and loved the driving experience. I actually put it in mode 1 regenerative braking because I’m quite a sedate driver and got good mileage out of it on mix of B roads and town driving. I found the level of tech to be spot on for me. And it’s in budget. Still, want to try a couple more models out. Waiting for the ioniq 5 to see how that one compares

[@matsbjalkholm9091]

Got an mx-30 and driven more than 10 000 km. Love it!

[@Zkoon]

Have you got kids, Mats? We're thinkin about getting one as a second car but aren't sure about those doors...

[@matsbjalkholm9091]

@@Zkoon We got two kids but quite old nowadays so they seldom goes along.

[@eminecinar1639]

I bought a mx 30 too. Whats your toughts on the car today? How is the range in winter time?

[@MultiEski]

Do you still own this car ? Still happy with it?

[@matsbjalkholm9091]

@@MultiEski changed car in August but had it for three years without any problems. Was our second car which I commuted 120 km a day with.

[@CyclicPilot]

I quite like the look of this, despite the odd doors. When I can eventually afford an EV, and ideally charge at home, I'm interested in getting this or the Mini because they are driver focused cars. It's not just about the numbers for me - if I'm going to spend on £££££ on a car I want it to be fun to drive!

[@devonbikefilms]

No, not justifiable. Still polluting and adding complexity instead of batteries smacks of not being able to secure sufficient batteries to make a decent fist of it. That’s why petrol cars didn’t have a horse on a treadmill to extend the range. This is that type of solution. MGZS is better, cheaper so why would you buy the Mazda? And it’s another blooming SUV, aren’t we bored with them now, mobility scooters for four........ So I’m not impressed, but you guessed that. There are better EVs for the money.

[@jasonball2630]

Such as?

[@colindavis1466]

I can’t see the point of this car. The limited range means that it’s only really suitable as a second/third city car. I don’t want to have to plug in after every day of using it after say driving 30 miles ( my comute is 18 miles each way with no charging options at work). The rear doors are incredibly impractical. I could accept it if marketed as a coupe 2+2. But not for a family car. I also don’t like that you’d have to undo your seatbelt if you do need to let someone in/out of the rear seats. In addition to fart-@rsing about with the doors.

[@robertmacgregor2575]

You could charge every 3 days if you just used it for commuting to work.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Which is why they specifically said it was mainly suitable as a second car! They never said anything but??

[@colindavis1466]

Ok, fine. Those with more money than sense are going to throw £25-£30k at it. But that to me, is a niche market. Mazda should be pushed towards mass market vehicles.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

@@colindavis1466 Mini Electric & Honda E sales would disagree. If they did a 200+ mile range car which would cost £30k upwards then the usual ‘it’s too expensive’ comments would come out. There’s no such thing as a cheap long range EV yet. Too early for that.

[@cghhgv2571]

I drove almost any vehicle under 45000 euros range before choosing this car. The quality and the driving experience are two classes up. It's a shame the range is 170 to 180 km. And to onboard charger is only 6.6 kw. But the car!!!!!!! It's just top luxury and sport together. Kias Peugeots Vw Hyundai? Two leagues down . No comparison believe me. Only the mini comes close , just close.

[@IMGreg..]

The only thing appealing about it, isn't even available yet? This a stupid laugh as it's literally telling you to hold off buying one until they have the range extender.

[@PB-fj5lh]

Not for me. Trying too hard on the design front and it just doesn't work......... It looks like two different cars stuck together and is out of proportion. Why did they go for those rears doors? RX-8 leftovers? They just create an issue that doesn't need to exist. I think it would look so much better with normal rear doors and would attract more buyers. Personally, I wouldn't go anywhere near it. I don't care how well it drives, if it is ugly (Which it is from the rear and side profiles) and less practical than a conventional 5 door arrangement, I wouldn't even go for a test drive. I am however looking fwd to the new R5 electric. From what I have seen it hits the nail right on the head and drives it home in one hit. I hope it is as good as it looks!

[@TheOilBurner]

Mazda has lost the plot. No parent with young children will go near this. Trying to get them out in tight car parks, especially with baby carriers will be nigh on impossible.. They might as well have made it a 3 door!

[@Dolikhani]

I share with you my experience after 4 months driving a MX30 rather than a few hours test drive as seen in most published videos, MX30 is absolutely a very gorgeous car, inside-out with outstanding finishing quality and very comfortable and pleasant to drive. BUT WHAT A SHAME!!! Technically as an EV, MX30 is useless! When the temperature drops to freezing point or even near, driving range on the highway drops to 110KM (140KM off highway) and worst is the charging time, it takes over 3 hours (in cold weather) to recharge the battery on a CCS 50KW/h charging station and not 45 minutes as announced by Mazda! God forbid, if you go on a journey over 100km away from home, you need to stop over 3 hours at a fast charging station to be able to drive less than one hour! And over 10hrs on an AC (11 KW/h) charger.

[@dmitrijsyciov956]

So,are you suggest to wait for a Hybrid version?As I really like the interior of electric one…

[@EarnshawUK]

OK. I cannot afford a second car. Friends would still like to be able to get in and out easily (many are retired). I think that I will let others go for it. The Zoe is looking like a better bet.

[@davidsworld5837]

it is so not right to say second car. looking at the cost of just having one car how many people are on living wage or less can either not afford one car never mind two and were are you meant to keep two cars

[@jackieramsay-fraser8396]

Had a test drive in one on my recent search for a new EV. Rejected this on two grounds. First was obviously the range which just didn't suit my needs. The second was that the interior is oppressively dark. I think they only come with black headliner and in the back and particularly with the small windows you feel VERY enclosed. If the interior had been brighter, I might have given it serious consideration as I think it's quite a smart looking car.

[@campakilla1]

I had an rx8 and letting people out of the back in a parking space was near impossible..totally impractical in a car like this I'm afraid

[@dlittlester]

I understand the REX engine will be a small rotary. They are smooth, and most efficient if they can be run at a steady RPM. Could be a good mix. I worked for Mazda dealers back in the early 70s and again in the early 90s. They make cars that are impressive to drive.

[@timaustin2000]

"for a very specific reason,..." Yes: to put you off buying one. Deliberately. Head of Mazda is on record as loathing EVs. He has to have one on his books to meet certain regulations. BUT he would love NOTHING BETTER than to point at farcical sales numbers for this EV and say "SEE, I TOLD YOU!! NOBODY WANTS EVS!!!" To the regulators. Don't swallow the PR. "Just like the Honda e does." But it doesn't. It's not selling. It's been a bit of a flop, looking at the numbers.

[@davidpearn5925]

When you have a body design compromise, you claim the range was exactly what you wanted. It’s bs, because it IS a compromise design.

[@jsouto77]

I think most people would be better off with an i3. Same peculiar door arrangement, but its an ev from the ground up and better range in some cases. For the size of this mazda its not very practical with them doors as far as an suv goes. My thing with range extenders is that you won't benefit from free road tax as it stands and if you will rarely use it, the money from that can put in over 5000 miles worth. Petrol engines like regular use and can struggle to get going after not being used after a very long period (two months or so is not unreasonable) due to petrol going bad etc. I notice this when go to start my motorbike after not being used for a long period (fuel injected and always on a battery tender) and more recently on our 2016 audi a1 1.4 petrol after it wasn't run for about two months (its just a spare now since being replaced with the tesla) and that really struggled to start and when it did after about ten attempts, there was a big stink of petrol in the air. Personally, unless that range extender will be at least once a month, its just another liability.

[@OKtunes]

My suggestion to Mazda would be to announce a battery recycling and replacement program. The range is fine for me, but there will inherently be way more charge/discharge cycles to get to 100,000 miles than say a VW id4, which will lead to some more degradation of the battery. Announce a plan to allow a $5000 battery replacement/recycle option at 100,000 miles and I am in.

[@simonlegg8940]

I really enjoyed test driving this over a weekend, the range put me off but I wish I had gone for it as the majority of my driving would be no problem

[@CyclicPilot]

Wish you had? What did you go for instead? :)

[@seanreeves3503]

No we don’t need hybrids just go straight electric., I can tell you now this car won’t sell very well because it can’t do the miles

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

A ton of people cannot go straight to electric. What do you think they should do?

[@subliminallyinc]

@@ElectricVehicleMan this is true. a lot of individuals who live in apartments who own cars or don't have optimal street parking cannot charge their cars when they get home and the closest charging station may be too far away to be convenient. more EV charging stations must be implemented in order to be "straight electric."

[@idparkinson]

It will sell well to people who are not interested in the range. If you can charge at home it is not an issue, unless you really want to do long journeys, in that case don't buy it.

[@timtim4603]

Great honest review as usual, but this design it doesn’t work doors are crazy body damage potential range is useless

[@profmartin1967]

Door arrangement is the same as on the Mini Clubman from 2008.

[@SNORKYMEDIA]

Mazda RX8 - 2003

[@Andre1980stavanger]

In Norway a range extender will let you lose out on all the benefits EVs are given. You will have to pay VAT on the car, car-purchase fee, road tax as a combustion car, no half price on toll roads, no driving in bus-lanes, no free or half price on parking, etc. REX doesn't make sense. This car seems like a forced unwanted build bu Mazda. It has so many flaws that is not taken into account or discarded in this video. The doors is a big no, the battery size is a big no, the not beeing able to turn of the fake engine sound is a big no, It has very slow "fast charging"... maximum 34kW also a big no. There is enough space for a frunk in the EV-version, but they didn't bother putting one in.

[@MrLongraphics]

Totally agree in what you say. I made a video on this channel about the MX30 but I’m not allowed to show the link. We bought one here in Norway. Look for : Mazda MX30 cold battery issues.

[@rattymcclelland]

The range extender will be very interesting as it's going to be next gen rotary. Will be good to see how Mazda have cracked rotary engine fuel efficiency, oil usage, emissions and rotor tip reliability.

[@dereknicol5284]

...if they have... im a big fan of the Wankel Rotary but i was very disappointed that Mazda bought the RX8 out with a lubrication design weakness that was only rectified half way through its life, that should not have happened given their long and extensive experience with the engine. Get this one right Mazda.

[@rbrosing]

If they put the drive train in the Mazda 3 that would be nice , im tired of SUV's

[@davidy7004]

Agreed - the drive train (or at least for me the range extender) in a normal hatch or estate would be great.

[@bertie1989]

Those “party piece” doors would lose the novelty very quickly when you have to open your drivers door in the rain, getting wet whilst you let your passenger out of the back.

[@SNORKYMEDIA]

or in a crash

[@stefanhaglund1665]

Or at IKEA in the parking lot.

[@brianiswrong]

As a diesel and petrol cars owner, I fully agree that the BMW i3 rex or volt are the only cars currently (as a used sub £20'000 ) that would get me into an EV. my mother lives in North Devon and we live in Derbyshire so 220 miles each way. All the kids have flown the nest so just a small dog for the rear seat, and just the reasurance of the petrol engine to keep us plodding along on electric seems the perfect solution for people like us.

[@happysporran]

Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should🤕... said the door.

[@MylesV]

The range is perfect for most people, the range extender idea is unnecessary for most people with how the infrastructure is expanding so rapidly. I think the desire to have a ton of range or a gasoline engine backup is largely psychological for many people. I felt the same way a few years ago and bought a Chevy Volt, the engine hardly ever ran so I sold it and bought a 100 mile range BEV since the charging infrastructure is fine around me. I can charge at home so I wake up with a 90% charge every morning, I can’t imagine myself truly needing more range as long as that’s the case. It looks like a decent car, I hate the cork (I envision it being tough to clean properly) but otherwise it seems nice. The rear doors are less than ideal but I haven’t had a backseat passenger in well over a year anyways.

[@ARandomOWL]

Agree about range extenders. Would love an i3 Rex in a different shell.

[@philip771]

I love that Mazda have done everything differently. The interior is the nicest I've been in this side of a Mercedes or Tesla. Personal taste of course, but I loved it. Just comparing with the Mini....

[@patrickjr11]

I actually agree with Mazda over the need for a "good enough" range over 100000000 mile range that appears to be the psychological norm, but and it is a small but, for the size of car, a slightly bigger range 160 winter miles is ( for me ) the point when EVs are all rounders. Especially with the Gridserve / Ecotricity news today. Its just too big a car to be only a city car. It needs a slightly larger battery and it would be perfect.

[@robsmith1a]

A rotary engine is still something I really like (despite the inherent issues - so smooth though and ideal for an EV extender). I wish they would do a sports car like that (MX5 - EX?).

[@paulholterhaus7084]

Still requires a gas tank.....Major turn off for EV enthusiest............Paul

[@Joe-lb8qn]

I had an i3 which this is but what five years later or more? The suicide doors is what did it for me. Hated them more with every passing day. Horrendous with getting kids in and out of car seats and just forget a baby in a child seat. And annoying with rear seat passengers. I take your argument about having it as a second car which will really be your first car, great point, but if you have kids or a baby or rear seat passengers for your own sake avoid avoid avoid.

[@slhslh9038]

Agree with you 100%. Loved the i3 with REx, but the rear doors grated more each day.

[@MrLongraphics]

EVM, we bought the MX30 here in Norway in January, and as of 2025 it's pure EV's only! No more new petrol, diesel, hybrids, or cars with range extenders using petrol will be allowed to be sold in Norway. So Mazda producing a range extender is pointless. I made a video for this channel and pasted the link, but it won’t let me. (3 attempts) You can search: Mazda MX30 Cold Battery

[@buzzofftoxicblog791]

Agree with you and Norway

[@GorillaWheels]

Interesting design. What do the paddles on the steering wheel do, I didn’t think EV’s have gears to go up and down through, so have they given you other functions with the paddles or do they do nothing?

[@Rjhs001]

Look forward to seeing the range extended version. Love the number of times you name check our beautiful, but frequently rainy, county 😁

[@johndoyle4723]

Thanks, not for me. The rear doors would be a pain, and of course the range is not for everyone, but as you say it will suit a certain market. Good we are getting so many new cars and options, something for everyone.

[@fastfreddy19641]

The back area looks closterphobic. Looks just as wet and cold at Skipton as here in Hartlepool. Nice review. 👍

[@jamesvandamme7786]

Don't worry, you'll never have to sit there.

[@chargedup8491]

Bought a Zoe as a second car... now we only use the Zoe :] spot on EVM. Also, if you can charge at home 100 miles a day is a lot of miles. Doors are just stupid though.

[@SNORKYMEDIA]

"smaller battery = smaller enviro impact".......but Ioniq has 28kwhr battery and goes MUCH further and did that years ago...and has normal back doors!!!!

[@circuitdotlt]

the car is nice indeed, HOWEVER: * Range will only be OK when it comes with range extender. Actual range in winter is just.... unacceptable. With range extender it will actually be a car I was waiting for last five years, as there is nothing to choose from, only the i3 REX, which is too small for a family. * The doors. Imagine trying to pull out your baby seat in a crowded supermarket parking. It must be a difficult operation, putting it light.

[@wilsonhitchings6687]

Very practical review, as always.

[@YS-cs8yq]

Get rid of the suicide doors, just make it a two seater. Put the money saved on a bigger battery. Is this car designed not to sell.

[@andymccabe6712]

Soo..you just want the experienced automotive engineers at Mazda to completely change the design of the car to something you dreamed up then? And you think your design would be, what - better?! Breathtaking arrogance based on total ignorance - there's a word for that........

[@YS-cs8yq]

@@andymccabe6712 I don't expect anything, it is my opinion. EVM has already pointed out the flaws. This is a forum to exchange views.

[@loonymoon1]

The Rex version would be like a newer version of my 94Ah i3S REx.... I've had my Rex for just over a year and it's fantastic. 90-130 mile electric range which is used >95% of the time and it's there as a back up for those times I need it. It's brilliant! I'll be keeping my i3 for a long while yet as I think it's fantastic. I do like the look of the Mazda though - it's even got the i3 like back doors (though personally the i3's actually look more practical/ rear easier to enter the rear than the Mazda's lol!!!) . In fact there's more than a few nods to the i3 in this car I think- even got the recycled fibrous material that also divides opinion in the i3, it's sustainable but looks like packaging material !

[@MrPWalden]

I really like that, but then again I was one of the few who bought an RX8. One to keep my eye on in the future I think.

[@martinwray7001]

I had an rx8. Loved it but it was really thirsty. Rx8 was really innovative at the time, I had hoped that Mazda might've carried that through to an EV, but this is a bit meh.

[@slhslh9038]

I heard they are using the Wankel engine as the REx, so you could have a bit of heritage still ;-)

[@banksarenotyourfriends]

I'm not a fan of the exterior really, but other than that I quite like the car. EV Man, I've got a question for you - what's your favourite Leaf if you were buying second hand? I'm currently looking at older Teknas because they're about the right price, but I'm wondering if there's anything to watch out for.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Acenta. There’s a vid in my channel about buying one.

[@banksarenotyourfriends]

@@ElectricVehicleMan awesome, will check it out, cheers

[@anthonyharding5]

Hands down I prefer it over the Mini and on a par with the Honda, very nice car👌

[@jamestroup]

i3 the only range extender? Er, Vauxhall Ampera?

[@alainpaquin627]

I'm the owner of a 2023 Mazda MX-30 GS as my first EV because I like the look & finish and the way it handles. Price wise, it's pretty good as Mazda offers a 4000$ rebate and another 12000$ in rebates from the federal & provincial governments (Quebec, Canada). I have to say I use it as a second vehicle to do all my shopping/groceries/meetings etc... all within 40 km from my house and I won't use it during winter time (October 31 to may 01). I understand the range is said to be 160 km but I've done more than 180 km on rural roads & city roads and it was showing15% left! But if you're looking for a primary vehicle for all year around including long trips, you should consider an EV with a 360 km minimum range knowing that in winter time when it's really cold (-20c +), you'll be using "heating/heated seats/heated streering etc..." which will have a negative impact on the range (minus 40% +) and it will take longer to charge. 😊 I forgot to mention, my average is 16 kwh/100 km.

[@craigyboy7843]

Wow, a review that mentioned disabled drivers. I almost thought we didn't exist until now😀. Nice car, may test drive.

[@slhslh9038]

Totally agree. REx was brilliant idea on i3, loved it - the concept and the practice. Like you said - I did 36K miles and spent less than £100 in fuel which shows how few times most people do more than 100 miles on any single journey. The two downsides however are that every time you got home you have to charge, whereas in something like the Tesla, I just charge once per day (at most); and having an engine in the car does mean it needs a bit more of a service than a full EV. The one downside to the i3 as a car was the suicide doors - basically if you park in car park between two cars you literally get 'trapped' between the two open doors.

[@TassieEV]

So the range extender is basically a generator similar to the GM Volt had. Looking forward to when Harry can be back with you again.

[@MrTottihunter]

Would you buy a car that you would need to goto the petrol station every day? No you would not, so why buy a car that needs charging every day? Put a proper battery in it Mazda. Needs to have 200 mile range at least.

[@ScrapKing73]

I drive 35 km a day, or less. Everyone 's needs are different. I wouldn't have to charge this every day.

[@sonnetaccountants4309]

MG5 - £1K cheaper, almost twice the range? The Dacia Spring will have the same range at almost half the price - it surely won't be THAT much worse. This Mazda just doesn't seem to make sense to me!

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

The world doesn’t buy the cheapest of everything or even the best value. Otherwise there’d be 2 options on a menu.

[@marvinsamuels1237]

Totally agree with you about an EV becoming the main car and an ICE being used infrequently for longer journeys. Another good video. Nice work 👍🏾

[@buzzofftoxicblog791]

Like the Cork 👏👍so pleased to see the end of TOXIC fossil fuel burning old technology ice car's not keen on carrying a ice engine around BMW i3 thankfully ditched the old toxic ice thing instead made the battery a bit bigger. 😊 We love our all electric BMW i3 33kw range OK 125 miles the new 42kw i3 190 miles better 👍😊. Good to see Mazda with a ev. Suicide back doors go bum first then easy get in. But wish they placed seat belt in seat not door 👀 good review thank you #buzzofftoxic

[@deckard6_634]

Let's do some maths; "claimed/fantasy" WLTP combined range when brand new 124 miles from 100%. In the real world, average drivers might typically get 80% of the claimed range - 80% of 124 = 99.2 miles. If you wanted to preserve the battery, like many EV owners do, you only routinely charge to 80% of full, so 80% of 99.2 = 79.36. Most people prefer not to run the battery down into single digit range as its not great for the battery nor do they want the stress of running out or having reduced performance (turtle mode), so saving that last 10 miles for comfort, 79.36 - 10 = 69.36 miles. In winter you would expect to lose 20% range leaving you with an effective 59.36 miles of winter range. Many people prefer not to have to find and use a public charger so in those circumstances you're looking at limiting your outbound winter journeys to 30 miles. Then you can expect to lose a little range over time. So after 8 years maybe the outbound journey range could be 25 miles ish. This is why people want a bigger battery to start off with, not because they always drive 100+ miles.

[@moskoDK]

Great work. Despite the car 👌

[@gargamelandrudmila8078]

They do have a big battery. It only does a 110m though😂😂😂. So I would be paying through the nose for these puny miles of battery storage. The mazda would have to be @£10k to be cost competitive with a long range Tesla model 3. Tesla long range is @£45k and does over 300 miles. So Tesla cost @£160 per mile, so mazda would need to cost less than £16K to be competitive on a cost per mile basis.

[@nedywest71]

Range extender is not good idea as no mater how small it is and iyt is not connected to tyhe wheel, as it would be a COMBUSTION engine will will not get tax relieve of Full EV only. I am a MAZDA Forever fan (owning few Mazdas) but I will skip this and waiting for pure AV with a decent battery pack + range.

[@PabloTBrave]

The range extender is a good idea , the suicide doors amount of external.plastic , internal cork are bad . And vegan leather is always fake advertising .

[@TheNewcastlePilot]

I'm debating with myself whether or not to trade in my 2021 Yaris Cross Hybrid for this Mazda. Great fuel economy but a little bit too slow and the CVT engine noise gets on your nerves after a while (plus far too much plastic for me). Current energy prices mean it's slightly cheaper to run the hybrid at the moment so perhaps I should wait till next year to see if prices have settled down.

[@sandyritchie287]

Each to their own but for me the MX-30 just doesn't add up. Its a family car! But big bland bulbous bumpers that above the chonkey black bits look really fragile. A family sized boot that's 100ltrs smaller than its cheaper competition. Less range than most smaller EVs on the market, no where near on the market it competes with. Suicide doors, which are totally unpractical for families, front doors open massively wide, mostly so the rear can open but they're not practical for regular UK parking spaces. That fake engine noise, its a family car, the last thing you want is more droning on over the sound of your family saying "are we nearly there yet, what do you mean we need to stop again!?". Top or range vs top of range its a lose to even the ZS EV for me. Ok all its got in its favour is Mazda build quality (is that even a thing? Every Mazda I've drive has felt baggy before its time).

[@watcher24601]

Range/battery size would make more sense with 100kwh charge speed. Up to 50kwh is disappointing in 2020s Not a fan of any car with black plastic wheel arches, makes the wheels look like 13"

[@davidmccarthy6061]

I was so close to getting an i3 REX. Used pricing wasn't a good value at the time so got a Chevy Bolt but I still think a range extender is a great idea. MX-30 would be great for my daughter that always works within 5 miles from home.

[@garyallsopp6369]

The environmental/handling/second car excuse is just spin - Mazda are way behind, so squeezed a battery into their ICE platform - how many people buy a car this size & price as a second car? At least the Mini & Honda E are fairly compact and the mini is cheaper too - Not convinced.

[@AlexUilenspiegel]

You like the Mazda Connect because you don't have to take your eyes of the road? You take your eyes of the road either way, whether you have a Mazda Connect system or a touchscreen. For the sake of God, leave that banal "argument" of Mazda. Your attention is diverted more with Mazda Connect to find your way in the menu system with a "joystick".

[@awo1fman]

Pretty much the epitome of EVs from the legacy manufacturers. Try all kinds of weird things that would normally only be found in concept cars so they can pat themselves on the back for being "bleeding edge" when what they are really doing is making their EV annoying enough that it will never appeal to mainstream buyers. They REALLY don't want EVs to be a thing, so they do their insidious best to make EVs that *look* great but no one actually wants to live with.

[@jeremylister89]

Don't understand the mind of the designers of this car. Those doors..how the hell did they ever enter the head of a sentient being? Worse..how did it find its way past multiple layers of management, people with common sense (and no power presumably) and end up in the final product? Bewildered.

[@barryhaeger4284]

Good review. I like the car, it's pretty smart with some very interesting design choices by Mazda. Sure it has a smaller, but not too shabby, range than most new EVs, but since Mazda are also bringing in a range-extended version later there is a lot to like. After all, there's a lot of BMW i3 about it with that arrangement of the doors; the use of recycled bottle top materials on the door tops and cork on the flat storage surfaces; position for the screens; non-touch elongated SatNav screen with iDrive type controller; the HV battery size and range not to mention that it will come later with small petrol engine range extender that just charges the HV battery when needed, but without any mechanical connection to the driven wheels. Then again there's muted electronic engine noise reminiscent of BMW's i8 (I don't think it was an option for the i3 was it). It makes me think Mazda has raided the BMW parts bin and since BMW have discontinued the i3 and i8. Has Mazda done a deal to acquired the technology from BMW?

[@graemecollin]

There's a reason that everybody's buying SUV's these days - they're pretty much all you can get!

[@garyallsopp6369]

...Or maybe they tow, have a large dog and go camping in it.

[@JohnR31415]

That’s why I have one - the MG5 wasn’t available, and the ZS just about fits the wheelchair. I’m glad the 5 wasn’t available because the Pilot features massively increase the range I can drive.

[@garyallsopp6369]

@@JohnR31415 I used to have large estates, then MPVs but SUVs offer a smaller footprint for the same space and in my experience, handle better than MPVs.

[@yvs6663]

meh. i mean 110 miles of range wouldn't be that bad if it wasn't for the fact that it also charges quite slow for a car that will come out in 2021. in fact its worse than a 30kWh leaf. better looking, but worse. btw, is that a house plug?

[@PaulMansfield]

The MG ZS EV is similar in size, slightly cheaper, standard doors, longer range, but no range extender. I think I'd choose the MG.

[@gargamelandrudmila8078]

Reason for small battery pack is very simple. They can not get enough batteries for a larger pack and their supplier is charging an arm and a leg. Mazda ergo is fucked.

[@domtdoodar99]

Rex hybrids actually make a lot of sense imo. We have a 2014 Tesla and want a second EV, pretty much decided on the i3 94AH Rex due to the fact it makes longer journeys much nicer

[@plodderexup]

I had another look at this because used prices have plummeted on these and they have released the range extender version. Unfortunately they have halved the size of the battery, so in my mind, they've dropped a bollock. Any thoughts on the extender version?

[@brianstevenson9967]

Just what were they thinking, it’s neither one thing nor the other, I simply do not see who it is aimed at, it is not a town car as kids would more than likely get sick in the back with those small windows, it is not a first choice car for doing a trip in so just what is its purpose?? easy question is would you buy one. For me I would not even consider it as I do not see what to do with it. Mazda Mistake.

[@davidlewis4399]

If they had made it a car not an SUV it would have had a descent size boot and rear doors. The huge wheels in each corner basically eat into the available space ruining it like all SUV's.

[@talldave7799]

Rare door getting slammed into front door is a disaster waiting to happen ! The range reminds me of Nissan Leaf owners who are unable to “reach” the dealership for Service due to miserable real world range!!

[@pdabin]

yeah looks good range wouldn't bother me but the doors .. on a small SUV ? nah the missus would curse me if I talked her into it. Can you imagine dropping the kids at the front of the school and getting out running around to the other side to help them shut the doors so they don't put a hole in one hhahah

[@davidellis279]

That door arrangement is Crap,who in their mind would buy one of these if you need to use the rear seats,that idea of having to open the front door before you can open the rear isn’t great especially when it’s pouring down with rain.

[@paulholterhaus7084]

Still cost much more than it's gasoline equivilent.............Paul

[@Ken.Howard]

When is the range-extender version coming out?

[@tomquimby8669]

Great try at trying to make the doors a feature. It's rubbish and with a range extender it's still rubbish. Mazda can do better.