New non-flammable metal oxide battery revealed by US battery company

[@electricviking]

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[@rassabossa4554]

I have been following battery development for the last 30 years and have heard too many promises that never went anywhere. Now I have a "let's wait and see" attitude. I wish them the best but until it's a reality, it's just interesting talk.

[@mahbubhossainsamm]

It’s different now because 30 years back we didn’t have AI.

[@EfieldHfield_377]

I agree, but what has been true and what has been real is the technology brought to market during that time has improved greatly and surpassed FF in every way.

[@N5ZY]

Time filler for KZbin podcasts.

[@Pit5336]

I don't think there were so many companies spending hundreds of millions on battery R&D ever in the history. Even if that turn up to be a disaster it puts pressure on others to innovate not to be left behind. Failure is also needed as it shows dead ends and others can look for different solutions.

[@drewphillips288]

​@@Pit5336 Totally agree.

[@Rhotz-ix8ll]

Yet another new battery announcement. Can't wait to see an actual new battery.

[@WiggyB]

Like LFP?

[@melitgreybeardivey7436]

ditto. Pie in the sky at present time. The title ought to reflect that it is only in the research phase. And Sam ought to have reached out to the company to confirm info; anyone can put out a press release.

[@PyroShields]

LOL. another game changer.

[@houseofancients]

​@@WiggyBLet has been around for 15+ years, it just became affordable the last 5-3 years

[@Ryan-ff2db]

Batteries and battery chemistry have changed and improved dramatically over the last 20 years. People that think there is nothing new are just not paying attention.

[@Useitorloseit1]

Sam , if we had a battery with ten times density. We would be flying!!!!!!!

[@jxmai7687]

alien technology

[@natepolitics1490]

They are making flying ev planes

[@Hejavra]

From Alsym website: "With system-level energy densities approaching lithium-ion and the ability to operate at elevated temperatures, Alsym Green is a single solution for use in short, medium, and long-duration energy storage (LDES) applications. It’s ideal for grid and microgrid applications as well as data centers, oil and gas, mining, manufacturing, ports, home storage, and heavy industry." Where did 10x energy density & use in EVs come from??

[@andrewharpin6749]

Volumetric or Gravimetric?

[@Hejavra]

@ Alsym Green "…offers energy density up to 1.7 MWh of energy in a 20′ BESS container" is the volumetric ed specified 😶

[@curlyjoh9941]

From the website. The highest performing non-lithium battery Alsym Green is the highest-performing non-lithium battery for BESS. Its performance profile offers energy density that is 2x to 10x higher than competing technologies,

[@GruffSillyGoat]

@@curlyjoh9941 - by "competing technologies" the Interesting Engineering press release version states _"Compared to other non-lithium batteries"_ . Alsyms website confirms this perspective for the 20 ft containerised battery, showing in a chart it has higher density than the other listed non-Lithium batteries but about half that of LFP. Meaning Lithium batteris still have higher energy density, but might require more electronics/cooling area to manage the batteries as Alysm claim better container footprint density for their battery. Alsym is mute on the chemistry of their battery, despite the industry press asking question since a previous April announcement. Of note though is that one non-Lithium technology missing from the comparison chart, and the most common alternative, are the Sodium Ion chemisty batteries. This makes one suspect the Alsym's green battery is a Sodium derivative of some kind. The mention of Metal-Oxides and that the battery being chemistry unlike other batteries on the market within the press release could be an indicator it may be a Sodium-Ion batteries using Metal Oxides in the cathode. The website mentions US based sourcing of minerals, which could indicate Iron or Nickle based Oxides, although Manganese Oxides or alloy oxides may also be a candidate (copper oxides is possible but would be expensive for the low cost statement in the press release). [ *Edit:* just found a statement from the CEO of Alsym in the Korean Times _"“Most sodium-ion batteries that have been announced use the same flammable organic electrolyte solvents that are found in lithium-ion batteries ... We use inherently non-flammable and non-toxic materials, and our electrolyte is water-based ... One electrode is primarily manganese oxide, and the second electrode is primarily a different mixed metal oxide. We also use a standard commercially available separator."_ this seems to confirm to the battery being sodium-ion based as above. The second metal-oxide could well be Iron-oxide as the article mentions the batteries are optimised for BESS not EVs (i.e. heavy ) ]

[@rascal1234]

10x compared with other Metal Oxide batteries, not compared with Lithium ion batteries.

[@wanderleyceschim2881]

If it’s 10x the energy density, then I’d rather have a small battery that I can replace by hand (much like you replace a flashlight’s battery) and then have a few extra in the house (or in the trunk) and recharge at home later.

[@dejavumagazine]

We are getting a battery chemistry revolution every week - they just need to make them cheaper and I am sure that they will. Looking at the range of the EVs these days, the current density is ample for the usage - sure it would be great to have higher density, but this is not as important as making them cheaper.

[@wolfbear7]

I'm praying for this to work. Earth and all life needs a break..

[@drewphillips288]

We are entering the 4th industrial revolution of clean, local energy and small sized technology driven manufacturing. The amount of innovation happening now is truly amazing.

[@JohnSmith-ux3tt]

Sounds great. I will postpone my EV purchase until these are available in a car.

[@davidtotten3042]

Ho hum. Another day, another game changing battery.

[@TheHoveHeretic]

Does seem a bit like that at times. Meanwhile, at least fusion energy remains 30 years away !!

[@sd70cal]

@@TheHoveHeretic 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@kgamaseg]

The whole "non flammable" is what does it for me. Even if these batteries had the same energy density as what Tesla's lithium ion batteries have, they would still be better. If they really HAVE achieved 10X energy density, as stated, then we're talking game-changing/paradigm changing technology. I hope everything that the company boasts now, is only the beginning of even bigger improvements. Less expensive EV's with less expensive to replace batteries, would be awesome!

[@GruffSillyGoat]

The 10x quote is slightly wrong, it's 10x compared to 'other non-lithium batteries'. It seems the battery is a form of Sodium-Ion, but optimised for on the fly configuration flexibility in BESS (it's not designed for EVs). The 20 ft BESS shipping containers are 1.7MWh but can stack unlike lithium batteries (many of which have heat exhaust outlets on the top).

[@garymenezes6888]

5:23 they say 24 containers of batteries can provide 1.7 MWh of electricity, One Tesla Megapack can provide 3.9MWh electricity

[@GruffSillyGoat]

The press release says one 20 FT container (not 24, Sams accent can be a little heavy at times) can provide 1.7MWh. Alsym's battery doesn't appear to be designed to compete with Lithium on energy density, but on storage duration, discharge range (2 to 110 hours), fairly quick recharge (4 hours) and land density (the containers can be stacked). A two stack would be 3.4MWh and three stack 5.1MWh for the same footprint as a Tesla Megapack. Their idea seems to be rather than have a battery farm of mixed fixed size battery types suiting differing purposes (multi-day backup, in day buffering, balancing etc.). Instead deploy one type of battery than can address most needs that can be reconfigured via software to meet differing patterns of demand on different days (or even hours). For example, one day could be all renewable buffering for renewable generation time shifting, perhaps charging twice a day. The next day, say with low renewable generation available for a few days, could be extended release of the previous stored energy. Or various mixes with other uses in between. Even a mixed farm of Lithium and Alsyms battery could offer advantages, with the Lithium focussed on balancing and rapid buffering, and Alsyms on everything else.

[@bradleyanderson4315]

If 10 times the energy density, you could restrict range to 400 miles and save a lot of weight. That would increase vehicle efficiency.

[@Rhotz-ix8ll]

Especially if the thing can charge quickly. Still vaporware until proven otherwise though.

[@petertraveller6421]

I still want 1000 miles summer range, because winter cuts it half to 500 miles, then towing cuts that half to 250 miles for winter towing, that's good enough.

[@AbdulDsouza]

To reduce or alter weight cover in a helium filled ball​ooYykn@@petertraveller6421😮

[@GruffSillyGoat]

It's a BESS battery not an EV one, according to the companies website. (i.e. 10 x other non-lithium battery energy density but optimised for containerised BESS that can be stacked unlike lithium ones).

[@Morpheus813]

If this is true then it is a revolutionary tech.

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

I have been hearing the same copy and paste template for ten years now.

[@Bunyipz]

Same denials as well

[@lyfandeth]

If this battery exists NOW, why would it need ten years to change the world? 2 or 3 would be long enough.

[@JohnSmith-x3y8h]

Because getting the product suitable for mass production, and then scaling up that production, takes time.

[@andreasmichel8420]

Get the info out early, to get the stock price up, before the secret problems come out.

[@DimeDoppler]

This is hard to understand when you have a peanut brain😅 ​@@JohnSmith-x3y8h

[@karlmckinnell2635]

It exists in a laboratory, probably take 5+ years to develop production of scale and cost.

[@GruffSillyGoat]

A quick look at Alsym's website confirms it's a grid energy storage optimised battery, they have pilots sites around the world (which have been positive) and are ramping up commerical production the start of next year.

[@yohannb5910]

Thank you for not using capital letter in your title, this is adequate and sensible, many channels don't bother

[@AlGreenLightThroughGlass]

In ten years time when my Toyota Rav 4 is ready to retire, I'll consider an EV - BY THEN THE MAGIC BATTERIES SHOULD BE HERE

[@frankcoffey]

Another week, another new battery. Keep them coming!

[@calc1657]

This seems a good solution for situations that are deemed too risky for lithium-ion batteries. But for low-cost storage in which space is not at a premium, sodium ion at $10 kwh will be the solution.

[@RODLU-b4z]

Sam, can you do a session on how to deal with zillions of dead batteries in the future, please?

[@donbrutcher4501]

The same thing that happens with dead batteries now. They get recycled!

[@MD-dl5hn]

Thermal runaway, cost, and range are the big factors why I haven't considered an EV yet. Hoping this one gets into EV's soon. An EV with 1000 mile range, no thermal runaway and about as much as a gas powered car then becomes almost a no brainer for even the diehard ICE people.

[@sd70cal]

Why would you want to carry around 1000 mile range capacity? That would be like carrying 35 gallons of gas when you only use 1-2 gallons in a day for most of a year. Most EVs have LiFePO4 batteries now which don't have the thermal runaway problem Li does.

[@MD-dl5hn]

@@sd70cal Long remote trips into the wilderness. I'd like to use my EV such as my normal gas car. I'd also like to be able to use the battery for accessories without needing to charge for days. I'd be fine with 500+ mile range, 1000ish and it becomes a no brainer over an ICE car. And sorry, I need virtually no thermal runaway to feel comfortable parking my EV in the attached garage. Lots of others will feel the same whether irrational or not. This is what you need to turn the tide and convince people to go EV.

[@sd70cal]

@@MD-dl5hn Well you are almost there. Probably by 2027 you'll have what you need. They just started putting some solid state batteries in production cars to test that are nearly half the weight of the current best ones and have no chance of thermal runaway. They charge really quick as well. Remote trips in the wilderness will get you even more mileage because of the lower speeds.

[@koenraad4618]

Dendrite free means unlimited recharge cycles. 10 times the capacity of todays batteries. High performance and high charging speed. Fire proof. Extremely cheap. A game changer.

[@nickwinn7812]

Not another game changer. Sigh. Charge cycles are limited by other factors such as corrosion, loss of electrolyte etc, not only dendrites. Where does this claim of ten times the energy density come from? Not the makers, who only claim energy density close to lithium, which put another way , means lower energy density than lithium.

[@GruffSillyGoat]

10 x other non-lithium batteries, it's a flexible containerised stackable BESS solution (seemingly Sodium based).

[@sd70cal]

It's for stationary storage systems. Energy density is too low for mobile use.

[@peterbland7227]

Although progress is slower than I would like, I don’t hear anything about ICE manufacturers striving to dramatically improve efficiency.

[@nickwinn7812]

What? Virtually every day there's some claim of a super efficient, tiny, massively powerful ICE that will destroy EVs here on good old KZbin... It's all BS of course, just like all, or nearly all of these game changing batteries, this one included.

[@sd70cal]

@@nickwinn7812 This one might be a game changer but its for stationary storage not EVs.

[@Batman-m8r]

Actually too good to be true but I don't want to be negative. Let's wait and see the ifs and buts first.

[@Myrslokstok]

That batterie can do anything except leave the lab! Was it AWSOMEGREEN"!

[@stevenbarrett7648]

more like Soilent Green!

[@sd70cal]

It has already left the lab. It's being used in several places around the world already. But, which was said but not made clear in this video is this battery is for stationary systems. It is not energy dense enough for mobile platforms. It can be stacked which Li can't be and it doesn't have the thermal runaway problem of Li. It's about the same as other non-Li systems except it can be made from different oxides opening up the supply chain beyond one mineral.

[@neildolan7177]

What we need is a low cost, high density battery with a low carbon footprint to replace the high carbon graphite in current batteries.

[@old_pilot]

There’s never been more attention and research paid to batteries. Wave of the future for this rapidly evolving technology. I’m hoping for a realistic aviation solution soon.

[@zollen123]

I would thanks China to push/force the whole world to focus their research in this direction.

[@635574]

If this can be produced at scale tesla should have it in a year. they were first out of china to have the LFP in their cars.

[@etmax1]

We don't really need any more than 600-800km of range, that's what fast charging is for. Instead we need safe, light, fast charging in conjunction with high energy density, so that the battery is no more than the size of a current fuel tank (or smaller). That way cars can be smaller, lighter and more efficient, or electric aviation and shipping as well as long haul trucking are extremely viable. Probably also on the wish list should be cheap, made from easily recyclable materials, and high cycle life. These characteristics make off the grid living more viable and really put a nail in the coffin of fossil fuels and nuclear.

[@jamesvandamme7786]

Water based electrolyte? How well does it survive at -20F? Asking as a New Yorker.

[@nickwinn7812]

Your screen wash is water based. The freezing point depends on what else is in the water.

[@TomMcinerney-g9b]

New/Emergent tech is typically expensive until capex is repaid and founders cash in, etc. So there could be a delay before competitive pricing develops (several iterations of the basic tech might need be developed as well). A mix of patented tech and trade secrets may insulate the initial manufacturers from competition. One reason that current battery technologies are developing orders of magnitude faster than historically, is that deep pockets (Elon Musk; China) are aggressively funding/investing in battery manufacture, to obtain first mover advantage in what might become a vast worldwide market. MIT professor Donald Sadoway's experience in funding his 'liquid metal' battery (for stationary/utility apps) is instructive -- it took nearly a decade to get useful funding for an extremely promising technology.

[@dhuffman690]

4C charging would only be 350kW for a ~75kWh vehicle battery, right? A grid scale battery charging at 4C could take a lot more power

[@nickwinn7812]

No , only 300kW for a 75kWh battery. (4x75=300). It's as simple as that, the battery will charge at 4 times it's rated capacity. Hence a 1mWh battery would charge at 4mW.

[@GruffSillyGoat]

It's C4 rather than 4C, so four hours to 100% (confirmed on Alsym's website).

[@Emm2004]

I’m sick of these bots.

[@JohnSmith-x3y8h]

Where?

[@jamesvandamme7786]

@@JohnSmith-x3y8h Sam is real, unlike some other channels. Many of which are explaining why electric cars are no good, because they don't burn oil.

[@gumby2241]

But, but, but, is it a game changer?

[@PyroShields]

You know it is!

[@orlovsskibet]

it is a totally new game !

[@nickwinn7812]

Not even close.

[@GreyDeathVaccine]

@@nickwinn7812 You are not the sharpest pair of scissors on the desk, aren't you?

[@nickwinn7812]

@@GreyDeathVaccine You ought to sharpen up your command of English before attempting to put others down.

[@petersz98]

It might become common place in 20 or 30 years time like it took the same amount of time it took lithium ion batteries to become common place after being invented in the early 1970s!

[@GruffSillyGoat]

Odd you say that, another press release indicates these are a form of Sodium-Ion batteries, also started in the early 70s, that are starting to appear on the market now. This one is actually already in use on multiple trial grid sites (it's a grid storage battery), the company's commercial production line starts early next year (hence the press junket this pre-announcement seems to be getting at the moment). This is similar to Faradion, Natron and others working in the Sodium-ion grid storage space, all seem to have completed trials and commencing production (within a year of each other).

[@philbrooke-little7082]

You said C4 charging rate which is 4 hrs which is slow. Now 4C would have been 1/4 of an hour. You also failed to say "game changer" which is the bare minimum requirement for it to even leave the factory!

[@GruffSillyGoat]

C4 seems adequate for the BESS purpose the battery seems designed for (chariging up to two times a day to 100%, but with flexible 2 to 110 hour release).

[@philbrooke-little7082]

@@GruffSillyGoat but what’s the point? With what appears actually lower energy density than LiFePO4 and cost to be very similar. LiFePO4 are also very safe Or Sodium reportedly cheaper and both with better charge / discharge characteristics. Then you have competing and existing flow battery technologies. There really isn’t anything that stands out that wasn’t contradicted in what Sam read but didn’t seem to understand. It just sounded like a hyped up press release to get research funding.

[@GruffSillyGoat]

@@philbrooke-little7082 - It looks like the Alsym batteries are Sodium Ion, based on another press release. Compared to LFP - the Alsym battery offers lower overall cost, higher land density use, the batteries can stack lithiums current can't because of heat venting. Plus greater operational flexibility - software defined configurations can operate from short duration (2 hours) up to long duration (110 hours discharge), rasonable charge rates (cycle full to empty and back again twice a day), durability (longer lifespan than LFP). Flow batteries are one of the batteries Alsym appear to have modelled, having much lower energy density and higher cost.

[@philbrooke-little7082]

@@GruffSillyGoat it looks as though you’ve done more research than Sam or read a different press release. Some of the flow battery figures in terms of cost are very good and they have the advantage of almost infinite cycling. As presented by Sam the batteries do not seem to make a good commercial case and I am always wary of contradictions in a report. I certainly wouldn’t be investing with the big players already into second generation sodium and lithium improving all the time and also with flow batteries already being deployed in grid storage.

[@kamingcloud2880]

If everything is true? Wishing this company will succeed revolutionized new improve batteries industries for a safer, cleaner environments ! 😉💖🌬🌊🌞⚡️🔋💯🌏✌️

[@stephenparker5272]

Is it a game changer?

[@paulmcgraw9284]

Hi Sam..this has nothing to do with this video but everything to do with batteries. I had two smoke detectors with lithium cell batteries that died today. The thing is that they were supposed to die in 2020! That means that you’re probably right about the longevity of EV batteries since they are also made from lithium. Who would have thunk it??😮😮😮

[@theknifedude1881]

I haven’t heard anything about your family in months. Did subscribers say you were wasting their time? I think knowing something about your past (touring the U.S./World on a bicycle is pretty amazing) humanized you, gave you a presence other than the guy who filled in the graphs. Your sons still racing bikes? I don’t know that the interest would justify another channel but I liked a little bit of your personal history thrown in. Anyway, I hope all is well.

[@brucedewald]

Mileage does not scale linearly with power density.

[@z.Sh4ped.Po0Tin]

Redox-flow? Iron/rust or vanadium based?

[@vladazco9068]

Yes, I can imagine 10 x energy battery. I can image many things, like winning 10 M lottery

[@maxlambinoz]

From the press release - LESS energy density than today's lithium ion cells. So not really 10 times greater Sam. Your channel is better than that.

[@apostolmihaylov3857]

Hope they make it!!!

[@sd70cal]

It's for stationary storage systems. Energy density is too low for mobile use.

[@sbjchef]

it is time for humankind to evolve into the electromagnetic age after untold millennia trapped in the chemical fire age

[@admiral1963]

Finally a product that won't be a rolling time bomb

[@nickwinn7812]

Lifepo batteries have been here for some time and sodium ion batteries are also making good inroads into the market. These are much much safer than Li Ion.

[@5nowChain5]

Even water us flammable, you just need to get it hot enough.

[@nath7874]

Not 10 times lithium ion. 10 times non lithium

[@joselugo4536]

I know the press release is not your fault, there are a few things missing. 10x more dense, against what? Compare to Edison nickel-iron battery or to EnerVenue. Clarify if, is mass density or volumetric density?

[@GruffSillyGoat]

The press release stated it, but Sam may have missed it. It's 10 x than 'other non-lithium battery', Alsym's website lists the candidates (all in the BESS space). It's not more energy dense than Lithium-Ion (again in the press release).

[@joselugo4536]

@@GruffSillyGoat The press release facts are, electrodes made mostly of manganese oxide, the other of metal oxide and water-based electrolyte. Fast-charge over 4 hours, what is considered fast, anything above 1C? 1.7 MW-h/32.94m^3, the nearest thing to volumetric density. The website FAQ section mention differently battery chemistries. Their comparison is ambiguous at best. Conveniently they consider fast C/4. Do not get me wrong, I wish them success. My dislike for lithium batteries is all-time high. I am a believer of Sadoway doctrine, cheap batteries come from cheap materials.

[@anlikallarackal9205]

Another game changer- actually forgot what the real game was

[@jespermilthers9895]

10 * density will make electric flying a real thing

[@daveulmer]

If you put 500wh iin 1kg what you have there is a bomb.

[@philbrooke-little7082]

But without a detonator it won't go off!

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

I learned should just start a battery business then claim I invented something in 10 years, then rake in the investment funds, rinse and repeat.

[@PropanePete]

Exactly, and that’s what is happening here.

[@donbrutcher4501]

Time and money will tell. In twenty years from now, the world will operate very differently. Imagine 75% of residential neighborhoods being netzero or better, including transportation.

[@TC-uk2sg]

so what is it's actual composition? It's great to say it's better but no disclosure of what materials/elements are used?

[@kylemacgregor4211]

You start out saying it has 10 times the energy af any other battery out there. Then you say it doesn't match lithium son's energy density? A little too quick on this story. I'd say it's a plan to defraud investors. I hope I'm wrong.

[@billybobhobnob101]

Probably ten times the energy density of other safe batteries like lead acid 25-30WH per KG

[@r.dunkley9625]

When I hear "water based electrolyte" I immediately wonder what sort of temperature range they can work in, how well do they work in the cold and what happens to them if they freeze?

[@GruffSillyGoat]

It's a BESS battery, so will be deployed with insulated/heated containers or located in warmer climes to add to the grid without freezing. Aqueous batteries tend to have additives though to extend the operating range.

[@ISuperTed]

This charges everything!

[@philipfreeman72]

Sounds good to me .

[@BigBadBoy-ib6yx]

That is how to transform to EVs. Regulations will be a nonviable.

[@vernstanley9387]

I wonder how a water based electrolyte would preform in sub-freezing temperatures.

[@jamesdubben3687]

Could you put the company name in the description? Thanks for reporting on this.

[@spadress]

So what exactly is the chemistry? Which metals oxide?

[@tuy60]

Energy, weight, distance, Airliners do it every time they fly. How much fuel do they need to have to carry a weight a given distance. The greater the distance the more fuel you need. Extra fuel adds weight that reduces the cargo capacity. Airliners adjust the amount of fuel they carry to maximize the efficient use of energy. EV's have a fixed weight(mostly) of cargo and battery and highly variable distance to travel. An EV that is capable of long range travel will be carrying a greater weight than is necessary for short range travel. EV's that are used for short to medium range travel that have the battery capacity for longer ranges will be using more energy and be more inefficient. They will use more electricity and cost more to operate. The "Use Case" needs to be taken into consideration when determining the best size of battery you need.

[@ExileTheKnightsOfMaltaNow]

Quite tired of hearing about these fantastic batteries that aren't actually available what happened to the doctor good enough patent for instance

[@RebelON-d4l]

Are any of these "New Batteries" ever going to be on the market? Or is it just an investor shake down? 2:45

[@willtabacchi1408]

Yes another miracle battery that is going to make cars more efficient and cheaper. But in several months its still not part of the latest EVs. i wish the Viking would go back and see how many miracle batteries made it into the newest EVs.

[@sonictrout]

so what does the "two to 10" times more energy density mean? Later you say they don't have the density of lithium. which is it?

[@nicholaspostlethwaite9554]

A non car battery basically. Which is fine, plenty of other uses like home storage. But we get lots of new great things that never get anywhere. No point in this if you want something now or soon. Some of us will not live long enough to see these things ever come through to be bought.

[@mpvideopro]

What's the name of the company? thanks for the info.

[@rbhebron]

This news is similar to QUANTUMSCAPE.. promising a revolutionary solid state battery but have not delivered to the hype as of date.. & It's been 10yrs ago...

[@ubermenschen3636]

Another high-tech battery developer manned by Indian researchers who promise the advent of the perfect battery. IPO soon, so get in line.

[@datianlongan5567]

This is why Warren Buffett said "never bet against America" 💪💪💪

[@skipondowntheroad5833]

Buffett could be correct about not betting against America, but he has said some pretty dumb things in the past. He once said he wouldn't pay $25 for all the Bitcoin in the world. He also said that the world's first cryptocurrency (Bitcoin) is “probably rat poison squared.” What he didn't realize is that Bitcoin was designed to take care of rats like himself.

[@douggolde7582]

Everyone is working on alternate metal ions and solid state batteries.

[@rayleeaustralia]

Whatever happen to graphene batteries. Several years ago they made it out to be the best there’s

[@markgilder9990]

American oil giants will soon shut that down. Sorry to be negative-

[@nolanscheid1724]

What is the company website?

[@GruffSillyGoat]

Alsym

[@ExileTheKnightsOfMaltaNow]

They should put them in the electric bike batteries and make them available to switch out and they should do it for free after what they put us through waiting around, in horror.... there should be a public Battery Exchange

[@GruffSillyGoat]

How do you fit a 20 ft shipping container on a eBike, the battery is optimised for BESS not EVs or eBikes.

[@ExileTheKnightsOfMaltaNow]

@GruffSillyGoat trouble begins when Jesuits start doing math

[@unknownknown2776]

2 to 10 x's more density? Well which is it? I understand giving it a range, but common, that's ridiculous!!

[@tonyduncan9852]

No figures? Just assertions? Thanks, Sam.

[@tbirdbrad3210]

Because oil and gas will block it and force it to be subjected to standards far surpassing what oil and gas has ever done. This making it more expensive and delaying their inevitable purchase of the company where they will attempt to bury it as always.

[@-LightningRod-]

Batteries with the Power of the Suns.

[@michaelhannah5376]

More to the point. A normal range battery will not weigh a ton .

[@gregbailey45]

With a name like Alsym, I wonder which metal they are using?

[@marcelo55869]

Let me guess, it's internal resistence is still a problem

[@thetreekeeper143]

Yeah America 👍🇺🇸 smartest country in the world!

[@mirandamorin6053]

U nano tehnologiji obična olovna baterija od 1kg bi imala 120kWh...

[@daktacat]

What metal? The last time "metal" was used in a battery name it was Cadmium.

[@Aokitadamitsu]

talk is cheap, whiskey costs money... while I want a new battery break through for both cars and for grid stabilization.. show me the money..

[@Cozzera]

Another day Another battery story.

[@GamerplayerWT]

Again…believe it when I see it. Then and only then.

[@georgeorwell7291]

80$ per kwh is not "cheap" considering we are around 50$ right now. They should sell the tech to Tesla, they'll figure out how to make it cheap.

[@najibyarzerachic]

System vs cell price

[@skipondowntheroad5833]

"we are around 50$ right now". Who is "we"? Is this the cost to manufacture? Is it the cost to the end user?

[@MCPicoli]

Hopeful, but I'll believe when I see it in a real commercial application.

[@andrewsarchus4238]

Funding round copy

[@Rene-uz3eb]

Would be nice if it's real

[@pete8516]

Another game changer ?

[@jonathanblum2994]

I would love to see you make a video an overview in which you compars what you regard as potential industry standard batteries, by industry if applicable (home, EV, grid scale). Not so much on how the technology actually works, but rather the costs, density, lifespan, quality, best use case, state of technological development, potential scalability, resource availability and the like. There are obviously a huge range of criteria, would really enjoy your spelling out the top 4 of rive over a range of the most promising technologies.