How much range electric cars with Samsung's Solid State batteries will have

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The Electric Viking

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@electricviking
@electricviking 10 күн бұрын
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@jasonsmith373
@jasonsmith373 7 күн бұрын
Recharging in 10 minutes takes care of most range concerns right out of the gate - most drivers will be happy with a 350 to 500 mile range so long as the charging infrastructure is convenient.
@philipguimerans
@philipguimerans 5 күн бұрын
We have been waiting for the solid state batteries for at least 10 years. I agree 500 miles would be great for most people, particularly when coupled with lighter, cheaper vehicles and faster charging. I will believe it when I see it though...
@yodaiam1000
@yodaiam1000 10 күн бұрын
Sam, what is heavier? A ton of feathers or a ton of bricks? What has more energy? A 87kWhr liquid electrolyte battery or a 87kWhr solid state battery?
@robertchristianson1187
@robertchristianson1187 6 күн бұрын
Most ev's today offer 300 miles per charge which is close to most ic cars. The awesome deal here is recharge time with hybrid batteries which make it like gas powered cars at just a few minutes.
@danshillabeer9523
@danshillabeer9523 10 күн бұрын
Love the channel mate, but as others here have said there is calculation confusion over 'energy density'/range as you quote it. There's a lot of techies here, and I feel you need to slow down a little and get the details right?
@Wheelo40
@Wheelo40 10 күн бұрын
Thank you. I love your content and delivery. I’m an ICE guy looking in from the outside. EV’s need a huge number of “us,” who are not EV hobbyists to adopt EV’s. When you express doubts that people would even want 500 or 600 miles range, I’m over here saying, my ICE powered car says “DTE 475 miles” after a 5 min fill up. Remember this is what the market you are after is accustomed to. Not only do I want 500 miles range, it’s basically what I’m waiting on to pull the trigger. Thanks again for the very informative content.
@robertwhite3503
@robertwhite3503 10 күн бұрын
If you do 500 miles frequently, you may be able to get 350 miles for £7 or $7.You will have to take a 20 minute rest break every 300 miles. If you do 500 miles infrequently then most days you will wake up with 300 miles if you can charge from home. It will improve but those are your current choices.
@GDM22
@GDM22 10 күн бұрын
If that is what you think you is required, no-one is attempting to appeal to you misguided views. Being able to drive 500 miles in a single go should be way down the list of any intelligent, well researched and thoughtful person considering an EV. The average Australian drives 37km per day ffs and lives in a city.
@ahaveland
@ahaveland 10 күн бұрын
Range isn't that important. I just charge when I need to. Never had a problem with my Model 3 AWD
@sunrisejak2709
@sunrisejak2709 10 күн бұрын
Can your ICE car fill up miraculously overnight while you sleep? Waking up to a full "tank" and ready for another day if 300+ mile range on a daily basis? The cost for electricity in an off peak over night "fill up" is about 6 bucks. Filling gas to go the same distance is about 40 bucks. The average daily car use is less than 50 miles. Hence EVs charged from home and "refilled" every night have zero range anxiety. On average Americans take 2-3 trips per year. The inconvenience of a longer fill only happens on less than 3% of the days in a year. 97% of the days being charged from home is hugely more convenient. Not everyone can charge from home? Yep, but if all those who can charge from home is huge and in the meantime the charge infrastructure improves as well as battery innovation. I've got 2 EVs that in my use case are demonstrably better than ICE in nearly every way. And that's today without 600 mile batteries.
@ahaveland
@ahaveland 10 күн бұрын
@@sunrisejak2709 Best bit is making your own fuel and filling up for free at home with your own solar panels - that feeling never gets old!
@charliebrockway166
@charliebrockway166 10 күн бұрын
All 84kwh batteries have basically the same range. The solid state battery saves about 500 pounds so it will get a bit more range. A 300 kg solid state battery will go almost twice as far as current 300 kg battery packs.
@rickpalmer9518
@rickpalmer9518 6 күн бұрын
Right on Charlie A solid state battery same weight gives you double or 172kw that gives you double the range as a battery is usually 25% of the car saving 12.5 % of the cars weight giving you about 30% more range.
@Phtang-phtang
@Phtang-phtang 10 күн бұрын
For most people, 300-500 miles of range is plenty. As the battery density gets better the weight of the battery will go down and you’ll get slightly more miles per kWh
@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 10 күн бұрын
So true, my car only has a 64 kW battery and a max charging rate of 75 kW but I need a 15 to 20 minute break after 2 to 3 hours of driving so the range is immaterial when the car has 450 km @ 100% SOC.
@streamingdemon2522
@streamingdemon2522 10 күн бұрын
300 miles in both my ioniq 5 and 6 means 200.. Sam does not average 354 in his G6.. Its more like 254..
@ctuna2011
@ctuna2011 10 күн бұрын
@@streamingdemon2522 Yup you need to pad the claimed range by about 100 miles at max to get the actual range. Then you probably want a degradation range cushion for the long term.
@neilmckechnie6638
@neilmckechnie6638 10 күн бұрын
@@streamingdemon2522 Slow down.
@beatreuteler
@beatreuteler 10 күн бұрын
@@shreeshsaurya4203 Km or miles?
@teslabulls1238
@teslabulls1238 10 күн бұрын
Sam. An 80 kWh hour solid state battery and any other 80kWh battery will give you the same range. The only difference is the solid state battery will weigh less. The fact that it weighs less will increase the range a bit but I would think not as much as you are saying in your video.
@LPerezDancer
@LPerezDancer 10 күн бұрын
For optimal battery health, it is suggested that you keep your EV between 40% and 80% SOC. That means for every 100 mile of total range, your usable range is 40 miles to extend the life of your battery. 1,000 mile total range would be great because it would be easy to keep your battery SOC between 40% and 80%. That's 400 miles of usable range per charge.
@alangardeski3199
@alangardeski3199 11 күн бұрын
One of is confused. 80 kilowatts is 80 kilowatts. Density doesn’t matter. The density will save weight not increase range except for the small increase because of carrying less weight.
@mackmonkey1
@mackmonkey1 11 күн бұрын
Sam makes this mistake constantly, not sure what's in his head when calculating his numbers, confusing weight with capacity ?
@markusnagel4814
@markusnagel4814 11 күн бұрын
+1 I see where Sam is going with this, but if you have 80kWh in your battery (regardless of type), then it only depends on your consumption how far you can go. But (I think this is what Sam is alluding to) if you can store 160kWh in the same space due to higher density, the same car can go twice the distance. (Not accounting for weight difference between the battery types) But either way - progress is always good news 👍
@hamishbarrie8318
@hamishbarrie8318 11 күн бұрын
That has been bothering me for ages too and I think we are right. Sam check out energy density. A 60kwh low energy density will drive pretty much the same distance as a 60kwh high density battery the low density will just take up more space.
@FrankiePo89
@FrankiePo89 11 күн бұрын
Higher density would allow for more kw within the same size as compared to a lower density battery, thus giving you longer distance. Is that the case?
@sargfowler9603
@sargfowler9603 11 күн бұрын
Yea, that confused me too. I presume he means within the same battery package size and weight, you'll get 1000km. It would have been better to say what the energy density is. I presume the SSB is around 160kwh?
@Phtang-phtang
@Phtang-phtang 10 күн бұрын
I’m not sure how you calculate these numbers. If you had an 80kwh LFP battery vs 80kwh solid state, it’s the same energy but the solid state battery will be half the weight if it’s twice the density. The change in range is highly dependant on how much the rest of the car weighs and how efficient the drive train is
@polaris1985
@polaris1985 10 күн бұрын
I think he meant solid state battery = same weight and size of his current battery.
@beatreuteler
@beatreuteler 10 күн бұрын
Yes but even more important will be the design adaptations allowed thanks the smaller pack profile (+weight) that will offer to build the car with a better aerodynamics.
@skydragon23101979
@skydragon23101979 10 күн бұрын
You are mistaken he is stating that if the solid state battery is double the density so now instead of one I can replace the same space with 2 solid state batteries.
@beatreuteler
@beatreuteler 9 күн бұрын
@@skydragon23101979 That would mean the volumetric density is also 2-fold. But as far as I heard, this is not what Sam told us. Or did I miss it? Can you direct me to the minute in the video when he is saying this? I only heard about 2x the gravimetric density, which is not the same.
@skydragon23101979
@skydragon23101979 9 күн бұрын
@ He mentioned it at about the 1.20 mark. But he says it in a confusing way. He mentioned that based on the current 80kwh size with samsung density should be able to give you almost double the range
@vermontsownboy6957
@vermontsownboy6957 10 күн бұрын
Sam, one of us is in left field, and I don't think it's me. an 80 Kw battery pack is an 80 kw battery pack. Your EV's range shouldn't be one iota longer or shorter with Samsung's battery unless it's 80 kw size is achieved with a lighter battery architecture, in which case the car weighs less and you would get X% increased range
@PxThucydides
@PxThucydides 10 күн бұрын
You are right. Sam has it wrong. The main point of these batteries is not range- it's correcting the lifespan problem.
@einoleinogron
@einoleinogron 10 күн бұрын
I think he means actual physical size. Atleast I hope he does
@tigre2236
@tigre2236 10 күн бұрын
Different cars have different efficiencies. There's no telling what range he'd get in his current car with a different battery system. It will have a different weight, the car might or might not be optimized for it, etc.
@nodavood
@nodavood 10 күн бұрын
He meant to say with the same weight battery you get 600miles.
@nicofish3100
@nicofish3100 10 күн бұрын
@@nodavood well he should say that then !!!The fact is that he is clueless .He just regurgitates what he hears for a you tube channel.
@pip5461
@pip5461 10 күн бұрын
It's always enlightening watching your vlogs...
@Tom-hb1no
@Tom-hb1no 10 күн бұрын
Thanks again for the video. Question ... If I buy an EV today could i swap out the battery for a new longer range battery, say, 5 years from now? In other words i wouldn't want a 2025 vehicle to be obsolete in 5 years.
@leaulife569
@leaulife569 11 күн бұрын
Sounds like a "game changer".😃
@tomiputra3720
@tomiputra3720 11 күн бұрын
A game charger 😂
@mattseaman5397
@mattseaman5397 11 күн бұрын
Like every ten hours…
@petertraveller6421
@petertraveller6421 11 күн бұрын
If you visit Thailand, it will be a game changer to your sex life.
@ItisOKtobewhite
@ItisOKtobewhite 10 күн бұрын
The game change twice a day .
@anunexpectedfire4062
@anunexpectedfire4062 10 күн бұрын
Tots a game changer😂
@JoeyBlogs007
@JoeyBlogs007 10 күн бұрын
It could help further open up battery powered watercraft and aircraft markets.
@beatreuteler
@beatreuteler 10 күн бұрын
Of course!! I am looking forward to this since a long time. So far range is the limiting factor to its usage.
@commieTerminator
@commieTerminator 9 күн бұрын
Drones will love it the most
@Rene-uz3eb
@Rene-uz3eb 10 күн бұрын
Current batteries are good enough for transition (nmc and lfp), 300+ miles range is enough, despite the only 80% charges on trips. In the 70s the gas guzzlers didn't get much farther either. No time to wait.
@MickH60
@MickH60 10 күн бұрын
Exactly right, ALL of the cars I grew up with had a max of 300-400 kilometres out of a tank, that's if you nursed them, NONE of my motorcycles had that much range at all, regardless, I was able to drive and ride all over Australia, and in those days, there were bugger all service stations, you simply planned your trip... For arguments sake, there was ONE service station between Brisbane and the Gold Coast, if you went further south, travelling at night, most were closed until Morning. How did we ever survive ? 😁
@tigre2236
@tigre2236 10 күн бұрын
Should we still be excited about solid state batteries? I thought the large expansion and contraction when charged and discharged led to battery-destroying cracks, making them unsuitable for ev's.
@justinstephenson9360
@justinstephenson9360 10 күн бұрын
All I want is a reasonably priced smallish EV that will do 250+ miles at a steady 75-80 mph in coldish (0-5C) weather. Assuming I will never drain the battery completely but stop when battery is down to 15-20% - which is what I do with my ICE car - that means 200+ miles between stops. That is enough for me. Solid state batteries in well designed EVs will do that comfortably PROVIDED the current hype is matched by reality
@philiphowarth9846
@philiphowarth9846 10 күн бұрын
Cars can already do that, in fact for the last several years
@yodaiam1000
@yodaiam1000 10 күн бұрын
That is what my car does and I bought it in 2019. It wasn't that cheap at the time but certainly much less than an ICE car over the time that I have owned it. You can pick up a used one pretty cheap. Mine is still in really good condition with no noticeable degradation of the battery.
@justinstephenson9360
@justinstephenson9360 10 күн бұрын
@@philiphowarth9846 There are no cars in the ID3 size that will do that for a reasonable price, at least not in the UK. You have to take the manufacturer claimed range and subtract 40-50% to get real world motorway range and still have 15% of battery life. Even a Tesla model 3 which is one size larger is £45k here
@MickH60
@MickH60 10 күн бұрын
@@justinstephenson9360 "manufacturer claimed range and subtract 40-50%" Bullsh1t...
@tyharris9994
@tyharris9994 10 күн бұрын
I want 700 miles of range and a 10 minute charge time or I'm out. As an apartment dweller in wide open Texas it's too much hassle otherwise.
@petesjk
@petesjk 9 күн бұрын
Honda Accords and similar cars in its class have huge gas tanks. The base version has a 14.8 gallon tank with a 478 mile range. The hybrid version can travel over 600 miles on a tank of gas. I agree that you don’t need a fuel tank that big, especially since there’s no way I’m driving over six hours without a bathroom break- but people have been sold on the ‘feature’. People are strange about their cars, and paper stats.
@MICHAELMEREDITHSR
@MICHAELMEREDITHSR 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for your video, the information you shared is *good* to hear & certainly needed! 🙏🦉 🏞️
@damiendouchi79
@damiendouchi79 10 күн бұрын
hi, thanks for the heads-up. do you have information about the cycle life of these new batteries ? thx
@staudtj1
@staudtj1 10 күн бұрын
I believe You misstated Your idea. If Both Battery types were the same Capacity, the Range should be approximately the same. If Both Battery types take up the same Volume, then Energy Density comes into play. Weight as well plays a big part.
@galaxiedance3135
@galaxiedance3135 11 күн бұрын
I woke up 4 hours early to watch this video! Thanks Sam.
@SnowyAspenHills
@SnowyAspenHills 8 күн бұрын
I hope this technology will filter down to tools, having tools that would last all day would almost negate having to have a cable for most purposes.
@AlexxxDE
@AlexxxDE 6 күн бұрын
If you take out the 87 kw factory battery and replace it with a solid state, 87 kw battery, you'll still get the same range, assuming you drive the same route. Energy density isn't going to make a difference at all. The battery weight will help slightly with range , but very little, remember regenerative charging is also from vehicle weight, while taking more energy to getting moving, but putting back more energy when stopping. But a solid state battery isn't going to be a really big percent difference in the total car weight, everything else is still there. If you only accelerate to hwy speed a few times, then there isn't going to be a noticeable difference at all in range.
@rickpalmer9518
@rickpalmer9518 6 күн бұрын
As an electrical engineer, I find it hard to believe that the same 87kw battery, but half the weight, don't forget the weight of the car without the the battery is not zero would double the range, maybe 30% more, but that still great considering the battery is usual 25% of an EV weight
@mahbubhossainsamm
@mahbubhossainsamm 10 күн бұрын
Even solid state battery is also a reality right now! Awesome! 💪🏻
@DavidNelsonElske-g1r
@DavidNelsonElske-g1r 10 күн бұрын
I think this is exactly the technology needed for North America. Consumers in wealthier countries routinely make purchasing decisions on 1% features. So even if energy density increases, expect battery backs to remain the same weight, or possibly even increase. People will flock to EVs with 500-1000 miles of range because they want a vehicle that can meet their most demanding worse case scenarios.
@neilmckechnie6638
@neilmckechnie6638 10 күн бұрын
How freeing would it be to only have to charge your EV up once a month.
@giancarlopellizzari1751
@giancarlopellizzari1751 Күн бұрын
Just imagine a really good cordless vacuum cleaner. What a dream.😊
@notkidrock
@notkidrock 10 күн бұрын
It is only relevant for Germany but when driving fast on the autobahn you easily achieve just half of the announced range. I would be welcoming high capacity batteries.
@beatreuteler
@beatreuteler 10 күн бұрын
I would be welcoming speed limits.
@cedrickojet3626
@cedrickojet3626 10 күн бұрын
When driving fast on the autobahn you achieve half of the announced range of a thermal car too
@S2NAZ
@S2NAZ 10 күн бұрын
I hope they can really make this happen ❤
@danielsim7542
@danielsim7542 10 күн бұрын
What is battery recycle rate? Always worry about the cost of battery replacement once it reaches its max.
@dusttodust
@dusttodust 10 күн бұрын
NCA, LFP or similar powered vehicles need near 500 miles of range, because daily usable range after degradation, cold weather and top/lower protective buffers reduce usable range by ~30%. What will degradation, low/high temperature and practical buffer profile look like with solid state? If superior to lithium then the capacity equation swings drastically in favor of SS.
@Thomas-AlderGoodsonTom
@Thomas-AlderGoodsonTom 10 күн бұрын
I think ranges of 1000 miles will be useful for those without drives. (no off street parking) no one wants to drive that much in one go but in a lot of cases only needing to charge once a month lets say whilst shopping or going out for a meal makes adoption of evs much more likely than 300m ranges and potentially needing to find somewhere to charge up once a week
@Pit5336
@Pit5336 10 күн бұрын
Wasn't density of 400 a brake point for applications in aviation industry? Are solid state flammable?
@kenfrost5965
@kenfrost5965 10 күн бұрын
Shurly if these batteries have 50% more power per kilogram then they will be much lighter than current batteries if they are the same KWhr?
@ZKev1
@ZKev1 10 күн бұрын
It's not the density, it's the recharge time, 10 mins from low to 80% is the good one, that for me makes it viable
@JosephDeLuna-yj8vg
@JosephDeLuna-yj8vg 9 күн бұрын
Wow 600 Miles! That Is Huge!
@Devo491
@Devo491 6 күн бұрын
At last! A breakthrough battery technology. Wait....haven't I heard this somewhere before? Oh yes, the Electric Viking has posted dozens of vids on dozens of earth-shattering battery technologies in the last few years. Why are we not all driving 1000km EVs already?
@clivetaylor7604
@clivetaylor7604 11 күн бұрын
Hi Sam really enjoy the content, and I for one would buy a EV if it got to around 800K before needing to stop for a charge, But lets assume by 2028/9 that 35% of cars are EV, what's going to happen to the petrol cars that are previously on lease or finance, because they will be worthless than the equity predicted, who is going to carry that debt. Secondly how will Governments claw back lost revenue from fuel.
@GruffSillyGoat
@GruffSillyGoat 10 күн бұрын
This is the fiscal driver for EV change, most manufacturers are transitioning to EV production in part because of this. They will initially transition to hybrids, which will hold up better at 35% BEV share. Before transitioning to selling BEV and EREV models only as they can be built on the same production line (adding a small petrol generator to a BEV platform). The depreciation levels facing ICE sales in the next few years will benefit the used market though. However, the real danger for ICE comes from within via alternative combustion approaches such as microturbine generators or free-pistol linear generators where their signficantly higher fuel efficiency which erodes ICE's range advantage. EVs just provides the electrified drivetrain platform for these generator engines to become viable since they no longer need to drive the wheels directly, which inhibited their earlier uptake (the technology goes back to the 1950s, with modern versions in development since the early 2000s inteded for EREV use). Fuel taxation will change to a pay per mile model, for all vehicles not just EVs.
@johnfruh
@johnfruh 10 күн бұрын
What’s going to happen to ICE vehicles, you ask? The same thing that happened to horse drawn vehicles back in 1910. They will disappear. Also, never underestimate the government’s ability to tax us. Here, I’ll let the Beatles tell you better than I can “Taxman” … kzbin.info/www/bejne/nX7HlHhun8mtbZI
@GraemeMitchell-m6v
@GraemeMitchell-m6v 10 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, here in Canada, a "fast" DC charger is 50-150kw and an "Ultra-Fadt" is around 350kw, but there are very few. Faster speeds arent possible at this time, so 945 architecture cant be properly supported. Hopefully, sites get their act in gear quickly
@neilmckechnie6638
@neilmckechnie6638 10 күн бұрын
You need to bin your politicians and vote to become part of the USA to fast forward into the modern age.
@GraemeMitchell-m6v
@GraemeMitchell-m6v 8 күн бұрын
@neilmckechnie6638 I will fight to my last breath before I become another state. And joining the "new" US means no green energy. It'll be like going back in time
@neilmckechnie6638
@neilmckechnie6638 8 күн бұрын
@@GraemeMitchell-m6v You may have to. Will you be on the front line or in your armchair.
@bernardfong1019
@bernardfong1019 11 күн бұрын
While CATL beats them all.
@rowdy9379
@rowdy9379 2 күн бұрын
What Samsung Stock is this Battery tied to ?
@eff7239
@eff7239 10 күн бұрын
I’m sure this has been mentioned. I’d rather the thing I need to tow have its own battery assist, so I can keep my vehicle as light as possible.
@LeonieBachmann-h7x
@LeonieBachmann-h7x 11 күн бұрын
Thanks, Sam, great news! Will be available in an actual car by 2050.
@dennisconroy3459
@dennisconroy3459 10 күн бұрын
What happened to Chinese Blade battery??
@shaunnarine3974
@shaunnarine3974 11 күн бұрын
Hi! Canada here. A 1000 km range car is, for people living here, the Holy Grail. I've driven well over 1300 km a day at times, when I've had to drive across the country. Even now, a 1000 km range battery is something i can use just to make an 8 hour round trip drive to Halifax from Fredericton, where I live.
@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub
@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub 11 күн бұрын
Is that what the average person drives in a day ? I'd guess that most car owners do less than 100km a day for personal use and they would comprise the bulk of all cars (not including delivery vehicle here).
@Kallon-r3b
@Kallon-r3b 10 күн бұрын
​@@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ubwho cares about 100km? City drivers can have those cars. For everyone else doing long trips 800-1000km range is important. Especially for round trips. You should not stop where your car wants to stop, you also need to have enough to heat up the car in winter, especially if you're stuck in traffic for hours.
@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub
@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub 10 күн бұрын
@@Kallon-r3b Wow , you think you're so important. Does mass production mean anything to you ? Car manufacturers will focus on bulk sales before they look at niche groups.
@juliahello6673
@juliahello6673 10 күн бұрын
You don’t stop to pee?
@zippyspeedmonkey
@zippyspeedmonkey 10 күн бұрын
As I fellow Canadian I agree. Up here we have large distances to cover and thus the increased range would be invaluable. Also, the higher energy density battery would help offset the range drop we get during the winter. We generally describe travel times in hours as opposed to distance.
@stephencullum8255
@stephencullum8255 10 күн бұрын
My daughter's business is building out their fleet towards electric vehicles. It is cheaper in maintenance and cost per mile. I saw her partners lighting Ford pickup yesterday. According to him, their are enough charging stations now for him to travel across the country. He has made some long range trips. It is cheaper to charge than using gas and according to him , when people figure out the very low maintenance cost of EVs it is over for the gas fuel car industry.
@CombatSport777
@CombatSport777 10 күн бұрын
These would be especially useful for Semi trucks, busses, an EV aircraft.
@mr.rhodes9127
@mr.rhodes9127 11 күн бұрын
Now, its time to get a electric car. This is amazing....😏
@beatreuteler
@beatreuteler 10 күн бұрын
Really? Sam says it will be in 2027 based on Samsung statement.
@tyharris9994
@tyharris9994 10 күн бұрын
Sounds like 4 years from now is the time.
@beatreuteler
@beatreuteler 9 күн бұрын
@@tyharris9994 Yes, but not for me. For me it would be 3 to 4 more years as I am looking at used cars only. This said, this is too much of a wait for me. I will go for current NMC or LFP in the pack.
@gregsutton2400
@gregsutton2400 10 күн бұрын
how will these kinds of batteries handle the cold?
@mauchu7
@mauchu7 10 күн бұрын
the development of ss batteries will eventually cascade to other industries as well say mobile phone etc. however, it's all come down to cost. if its to expensive then nobody going to adopt it. So competition and development from Catl and samsung is a win win for the masses.
@Josef-h3s
@Josef-h3s 10 күн бұрын
IF the claim is true, ultra-fast charging will be a true game changer. But we'll also have to see about the price, does it burst into flame, how many charging cycles can it handle, its reliability, and how quickly does its charge capacity degrade.
@MickH60
@MickH60 10 күн бұрын
The early battery designs were the flammable ones, Lipo 4 and other new tech doesn't. And just for context, Petrol/gas cars burn pretty good all the time, and have done for over 100 years........
@stevenbaker15
@stevenbaker15 10 күн бұрын
Why haven’t u reviewed the new zero point energy device the E-Cat from Leonardo corporation it’s going to be absolutely world changing and the manufacturing facility is being built right now in turkey 3.5 million sq feet and production is set to begin and shipments starting by the end of this year!
@mauricetate3571
@mauricetate3571 10 күн бұрын
It's a hoax.
@dylanthomas12321
@dylanthomas12321 10 күн бұрын
​@@mauricetate3571 total hoax. I wasted a few minutes to verify it myself.
@xtdude
@xtdude 10 күн бұрын
In the Rockies I would absolutely want 600 miles of range
@brucerosner3547
@brucerosner3547 10 күн бұрын
Don't understand your estimates. Here is my back of envelope estimate (sorry for the English units) Tesla 3 weight is about 4,000 lbs; the battery weight is 800 lbs. The Samsung battery is about twice the energy density so the weight should be about 400lbs. So the total weight of the car is 10% less. Hard to believe a 10% drop in total weight increases mileage all that much. The battery energy density is more important in aircraft and even trucks. Am I wrong?
@ozozi49
@ozozi49 10 күн бұрын
There you go! If you want your phone to last for 3 days, wait for SAMSUNG S28. Again, S30 will have battery that will last all week, and can charge with small portable solar panel for the hole day in just 1 hour🎉😊
@Bemx2k
@Bemx2k Күн бұрын
Energy density, about 500Wh/kg is what we need now . 400miles Real Real range at any conditions .
@JanRademan
@JanRademan 10 күн бұрын
The limiting factor for charging is not the battery's charging rate. In order to charge an 80 kWh battery in 10 minutes, you need at least 500 kW for those 10 minutes. No home charger will ever be able to provide that much power, which means it is a feature you will almost never use unless you drive 100's of km's daily. While 500 kW chargers do exist, they would come at a premium and the required infrastructure to deliver 80kwH at that rate is an order of magnitude more complex. With these batteries in wide use, finding somewhere to charge them at anything approaching their actual charge rate would be a challenge.
@beatreuteler
@beatreuteler 10 күн бұрын
Probably true for Australia. However in Europe, such chargers are becoming very common, not the latest because more and more fully electric trucks are populating the roads that could actually even use Megachargers. They will happily charge @ 500 KW during their mandatory breaks in order to enhance the daily stretch they can drive.
@JoeyBlogs007
@JoeyBlogs007 10 күн бұрын
CPU performance would be long surpassed by the time these batteries require replacement in consumer smart devices. They would not benefit significantly from longer battery life, however greater energy density could be useful.
@integra8502
@integra8502 9 күн бұрын
You have been talking about new Battery tech for years and we still have the same range today
@Raymaster7482
@Raymaster7482 10 күн бұрын
Give us ~200 kWh batterypacks for our EVs. At least as an option. Would be nice to have 500 km winter highway range (@140 kph)
@rickypickles5046
@rickypickles5046 10 күн бұрын
Many people are reluctant to buy electric cars. They might be saying range anxiety, but that goes away with high speed charging and widespread charging availability. When charging is as fast and available as gasoline, worries are eliminated!
@williamgrunzweig571
@williamgrunzweig571 10 күн бұрын
Each year we get closer and closer to real mass production of SSB. These next 4 years will be wild
@ElMistroFeroz
@ElMistroFeroz 10 күн бұрын
Just don't play the drinking game every time a "game changing" battery comes out, unless you don't care about your liver.
@williamgrunzweig571
@williamgrunzweig571 10 күн бұрын
@ 🤣
@GG-si7fw
@GG-si7fw 10 күн бұрын
Meanwhile ICE vehicles progression in the past 20 years have done what at billions in refinement?
@contra_plano
@contra_plano 10 күн бұрын
It is like going to the moon... but have more people in the race
@peteralflat281
@peteralflat281 10 күн бұрын
The average ev battery weighs 1,000 lbs. If you double the energy density of a battery you could halve the size (and weight), and have the same amount of stored energy in a car that is 500lbs lighter. This will increase range significantly.
@andrewjamez
@andrewjamez 10 күн бұрын
I remain skeptical over solid state. The theory was it would be a cure to dendrite growth bug tge whole proble with achieving solid state battery reality IS dendrite growth...
@torjusekkje6264
@torjusekkje6264 10 күн бұрын
Double range with the same size battery 😋🤔🥰 I think you need a couple of weeks off.
@NormalGuy561
@NormalGuy561 10 күн бұрын
Did you forget about VW/Power co & Quantumscape? They may come before Samsung possibly.
@audistik1199
@audistik1199 10 күн бұрын
Yes, but what is the price of the Samsung battery.
@rorymccallum5629
@rorymccallum5629 11 күн бұрын
Please tell me which chemistry can have 10x energy density. Lithium air claims are not real because as you discharge the battery it gains oxygen increasing the weight significantly. Nothing has 2700wh/kg. Sure we might double density them over the next 20-50 year double again. Not that we need it for the transition. Sam I know you want to talk up the future but the technology today is enough to get from Melbourne to Sydney with 2 ten minute breaks. What I am really waiting for is a car that has LFP and does v2g. If BYD would do that I would buy one. Faster charge time is good but charging for 3 h at 25kw at home then selling back to the grid in the peak is what I'm after.
@AArata63
@AArata63 10 күн бұрын
See Viking, it wasn't Samsung batteries starting the fires in California. It was Tesla batteries all along :)
@larrysheetmetal
@larrysheetmetal 10 күн бұрын
no talks about if you can can get 600 miles per charge out of auto battery will homes been coming off the grid with solar charging and small back up natural gas generator !!!! there are also squirrel cage fan set up for wind power on peak of roofs you can get
@Rhotz-ix8ll
@Rhotz-ix8ll 10 күн бұрын
Doesn’t matter where I go or what I look at, EV’s are still $20,000 more than the equivalent ICE vehicle. I keep hearing about the tipping point between these two technologies but doesn’t even feel close to it here.
@TreDogOfficial
@TreDogOfficial 10 күн бұрын
Could you not replace your old hybrid Battery with a solid state battery?
@yulusleonard985
@yulusleonard985 11 күн бұрын
Qing Tao semi solid is 4.7v each compared to NMC 3.7v and LFP 3.2 or sodium 3.0
@AhBeeDoi
@AhBeeDoi 11 күн бұрын
What's the cycle life?
@siwen66
@siwen66 10 күн бұрын
Once only😂
@mpetty9947
@mpetty9947 2 күн бұрын
This Samsung Solid state battery sounds like the best in the world by far.
@lexsta88
@lexsta88 10 күн бұрын
I still think that unless you can charge from 5% to 100% in 10 minutes or so I.e the same time to fill as in an empty petrol station for a petrol/diesel car with a range of around 500miles people will always have range anxiety. Especially until the fast charger is as common place as the petrol pump. My car on a full tank has 550miles (supposedly) it took me 6ish hours to get to Scotland on one tank. I wouldn’t have wanted to make that 7 with a stop for charging. I only made that trip once but it’s the fact that I could when I needed to. Until we reach that threshold, that equals ice cars then people are still going to think electric is inconvenient and therefore inferior despite actually being better for you long term both financially and for the air quality/sound pollution and from a reliability standpoint
@abhirammmm
@abhirammmm 10 күн бұрын
I wonder how much range can silverado ev could extract with 213kw ssb 🤔
@gavinmarshall6438
@gavinmarshall6438 11 күн бұрын
Hi Sam, I’m particularly interested in touring/ 4WD vehicles for vic high country and Simpson desert ect. There appears to be a way to go for this segment, I presently have a well equipped Hilux. Could you do a presentation about this segment, what’s available and what’s coming. Appreciate if you can . Looking for 1200 km range😁
@galaxiedance3135
@galaxiedance3135 11 күн бұрын
Samsung might just beat TOYOTA with their Solid State battery coming out :) haha
@MickH60
@MickH60 10 күн бұрын
Didn't Toyota do a deal with BYD ?
@Kallon-r3b
@Kallon-r3b 10 күн бұрын
Make some videos about Prologium SSB
@lota68
@lota68 10 күн бұрын
That will be amazing, and Melon Usk will be the founder of Samsung
@lnfopublishingsecrets1887
@lnfopublishingsecrets1887 10 күн бұрын
Maybe human drivers don't need 650 mile range. But what about automated vehicles doing delivery runs? They don't need to stop for as many times.
@Hurdy_guy
@Hurdy_guy 10 күн бұрын
Similarly commercial passenger vehicles like coaches. A big range that will go for a full day touring would make battery power viable.
@drwisdom1
@drwisdom1 10 күн бұрын
Mr. Viking says Toyota "doesn't understand batteries." So they don't know you fill them with electricity and then you use it up?
@carusmike
@carusmike 10 күн бұрын
For most ev usage charge speed is far more important than range. For 10 minutes charge I will gladly accept 150 miles because I am in the city max 20 miles per day.
@blradcl
@blradcl 10 күн бұрын
Does this mean quantumscape is getting left behind?
@kamingcloud2880
@kamingcloud2880 10 күн бұрын
Hope all the newer batteries will also be great for lower than -25c cold winter climate conditions ? 👎💖🌬🌊🌞⚡️🔋💯👍🌏✌️🙏
@Rhotz-ix8ll
@Rhotz-ix8ll 10 күн бұрын
I do as well but that only applies to a small percentage of the world population. Maybe just get a bigger battery in that case. I hate snow now.
@jennieleighloomis7870
@jennieleighloomis7870 4 күн бұрын
I understand that most of the industry is working towards electric cars, but what about building solid state ebike batteries.
@alangardeski3199
@alangardeski3199 11 күн бұрын
I believe the charge speed and increased interior room will be the big benefits. Doubling the power in the same volume is what will increase the range
@yodaiam1000
@yodaiam1000 10 күн бұрын
Doubling the energy. Not the power.
@massimilianoboatta177
@massimilianoboatta177 10 күн бұрын
Prologium and sk??
@document6
@document6 6 күн бұрын
I don’t think anyone needs all of this range tho .. when I used to rent bmws on Turo I had to fill up whether driving to San Diego, upstate NYState or to San Francisco .. isn’t that the same difference with EVs? Why the double standard on range?
@stsproductionsllcdainiusbe4763
@stsproductionsllcdainiusbe4763 Күн бұрын
Why aren’t Batteries built in large cells?
@glenf4115
@glenf4115 10 күн бұрын
A typical 70 kWh battery would weigh 118 kg (260 pounds) less and increase range by 4.6%* Example: 170 Wh/km would reduce to 162.2 Wh/km Range with 259 kg battery: 412 km Range with 140 kg battery: 432 km *Study by AAA: Controlled test facility. Energy used while unloaded vs 1400 lbs load of sandbags into a Ford lightning
@document6
@document6 6 күн бұрын
Just offering the option to buy that range is enough .. some people will pay extra others will be like I’m good with 300 miles range
@sunsshine
@sunsshine 9 күн бұрын
Can we call it a wake-up call for the QS and SLDP investors?
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